I'm just realizing that the cosmology really messes up his character in the early era, It seems like they wanted to imply he was always like this, but you never see these elements in any of the older episodes, not against giving him a back story, but it doesn't really make all that much sense
I'm searching outside the Bible say tomorrow when you leave and you know same as many beats is it possible depends with you it's me in the enemy ammo revenger and in the beginning he died skinny fine let me why
I feel like he knows what he’s doing,the puzzlevison series was a big flop (due to the ships) and I was like,you can’t go in be kidnapped and be in technology,and get controlled by a tv man,you live your own way of life,and putting Mario in danger was a GIANT flop. The dumb stories to chill and relax to from 2020 only ate cuz there was only irl him instead of the character.
I realized this a while back, but that mental breakdown and insanity arc was not really caused by Mr. Puzzles, more so that Glitchy went insane and isolated himself from everyone and became a freaking turd. Even worse because he bought the keyboard AFTER his mental breakdown. So Puzzles didn’t make him go insane, he just too ADVANTAGE of the fact that he was going insane Yeah, Glitchy has become one of my least favorite characters ever since that video, and the recent mini arc about Puzzles
@@Dragonpaws64 Smg4 used to be like Brian Griffin, he was the voice of reason, gets dragged to the adventures without truly wanting to... And he just wanted to die so his nightmarish life with Mario (who was more of an asshole addicted to spaghetti who's best friend was the supposed villain of the mario franchise and had a frenemy relationship with Sonic and Smg4)
This reminds me a lot about John Arbuckle from Garfield. He used to be very grounded and more relatable in character, and served as a good counterpart to Garfield and his extreme gluttony and chaotic nature. But now John is a complete goofball who often dresses in silly clothes, makes tons of dumb decisions, and has no friends/companions outside of his family and romantic partner Liz. This is what I believe to be the worst decision the Garfield comics have made since not only has his newer personality gotten rid of one of his only other human friends, Lyman, since he was originally the goofy one of the two, but Garfield’s antics no longer seem special since there’s no longer much of a contrast between him and John, and Garfield just feels like a bored cynic now.
Modern SMG4 strikes me as the character that would be a bit of a jerk to his friends in a casual setting, but when the chips are down, absolutely go out of his way to defend them from real danger.
The thing that I've noticed regarding how the SMG4 characters have evolved was that virtually almost all of them have become the "straight man" to other characters who have retained their original personalities to a degree like Mario or Bob. As a result, the "straight man" characters have become rather boring with only a couple things to help them stand out like Saiko having anger issues or Meggy being a sports-loving tomboy. As you brought up in this video, SMG4's traits of being a "meme lord" and being a UA-camr were minor characteristics, but they have since been amplified as a means of making him stand out, and I feel like the minor characteristics of the other characters were also given the same treatment.
Honestly I can’t stand newer smg4, it’s kinda like how old family guy had more heart and you could see it in the animation. Smg4 has gone from blue mario to this weird human thing and has been flanderised in a pretty odd way.
@@NotYourAverageTailsFan Not really, he's had his moments although he's arguably one of the better characters the show has to offer (Bob's also decent even though nowadays he's a punching bag).
I know right. The character has changed so much. He went from the straight man to a goofy idiot. It’s weird how much characters can change in the series. The good and the bad
SMG4 turning into a guy obsessed with memes happened before the era of Hobo Bros. reacting to memes, so it's not the result of that. I think what happened is that the change was due to the change in the series itself, gradually becoming more and more about integrating memes rather than just simple Mario 64 Bloopers like any others, which I think had started around 2014. And since SMG4 the character was supposed to be a sort of self-insert representation of Luke himself to an extent, being shown in-universe to be the content creator who runs the SMG4 channel and makes the bloopers (which was acknowledged in the older era, maybe not that frequently but that was always his character), SMG4 the character started being depicted as being all about the memes because SMG4 the real life person was making memes or meme-heavy videos now.
That still doesn't mean you can change a character's personality just like that, it kinda sucks. If they wanted some other meme addicted character why didnt they make just one? Why did they need to turn smg4 into this? Thats my complain
@@oxintoma32devwel, real life porsonalities change and if smg4 represents Luke then it only really makes sense to change smg4's personality accordingly
@@oxintoma32dev I'm fairly certain that smg4 is a self insert, which are supposed to represent the one inserting himself. That or Luke is prepping something for a future arc with smg4's personality, but unlikely
I think one of the earliest times that his channel was acknowledged was during stupid paper Mario, when the whole joke was that he burned through all his money on a crane game and he had to send Mario out to find more money as the world slowly lost production value.
I really do feel like the Redesigns wasn't really apart of an arc but just a reason to sell merch I also feel like that TV head character got sanitize into a powerful character who will most likely do nothing but be apart of some arc that kills him When most people say their "SMG4 Fans" they're mostly talking about Glitch Studios
While the redesigns are probably an excuse for more merch, It's probably also because you know. Nintendo's a bitch when it comes to copyright. I do wish they had kept elements from their old arcs like characters dying and things being really crazy. The Genesis arc and Revelations was amazing in terms of story... and then they fell.
@@LoachSweetleaf see if it wasn't for the fact that smg4's old design was used in the remaster of who let the chomps out and another remastered video then I'd understand why people would think that
@@supermarioglitchy10 what an hypocrite, I rather watch that weird nugget and monkey thing or Family Guy clips with Subway Surfers rather than watching actual Smg4
Agreed, but I personally feel like it started in 2021. Again, that's just my opinion; I personally think some of his 2020 videos are pretty funny. *This was not made to offend you. I have a paranoia of getting into fights on the internet after posting my opinion, so I'm sorry if this note was unnecessary.*
I kinda agree, I honestly think modern SMG4 is much less good compared to old SMG4! I missed when they were just making memes and not these HUGE overarching stories (the only arcs I liked were the waluigi and anime arc). After the lawsuit arc, my interest in the series fell off the face of the earth!
One of the main problems with smg4 is the simple fact that he changed, His characters are more serious, the jokes are more obnoxious, Mario is literally the only thing left of his old legacy. Not to mention youtube being more strict and the fear of nintendo going around, It's why we don't get any R*tarded 64 or any stories surrounding just mario being stupid or any of those characters.
I get the feeling that after SML got a Cease & Decest from Nintendo (with his Nintendo Distrack didn't help his situation at all), It made SMG4 making the lawsuit arc to changed his character design out fear that Nintendo might target him next, and making a jab at miyamoto in one of his war of the fat italian dint really help much (heck he even acknowledge it in his reaction).
I started watching this back when the Big Chungus episode released. SMG4 and Jeffy was basically my 2nd pair of parents back then. I really hated the recent design change in SMG4, but it really just makes the old gold even more valuable and nostalgic, which isn't half bad.
SMG4 the character did originally have moments when he was generally nice while having the flaw of him being view hungry until to be perfect happened now the writers keeping calling back to that like I thought the whole point of that movie was for SMG4 to not be so viewer Greedy
It scared the day become greedy, but he still lovable. I still like super Mario glitch 4 and I still like super Mario Logan both of them are not in their prime anymore, but I still love them regardless I will always
Character-wise, it's obvious that Classic SMG4 was better. Its level-headed yet chaotic nature. It was a perfect balance of silliness and seriousness, plots were light-hearted and fun, but there were sometimes stakes and conflicts that were sensible and easy-to-understand. The story was literally, "Mario is a parody of the famous version of the plumber but is very stupid, snarky, and an overall unempathetic scumbag who lives in a computer that happens to contain more of these bootleg versions of the characters you know and love." It was simple and that's why it worked, it was chaotic yet still grounded and recognizable. The new SMG4 is honestly a downgrade because it's a perfect representation on why modern UA-cam is bad. New SMG4 is loud, annoying, in-your-face, and unfunny. It's just stealing audio from bad shorts and forcing dead memes and trends down your throat. It took the lives out of the iconic characters, gave them pretty but lifeless new models, it didn't work on Bob or Fishy Boopkins as their entire jokes were on the fact that Bob was a Garo and Fishy Boopkins was a Spike. The "lore" became too serious and there were deaths, which just felt unfitting More OCs were also added, which varied from interesting characters who became worse over time, background characters wh just exist, and random characters with no real purpose to be there. Nintendo characters were also shoved out of the way for the OCs, even Mario himself got downgraded and sidelined for them. The only character I was slightly interested in was Karen due to the more light-hearted scenes and no-nonsense attitude. It shows the difference between a passionate artist and a person who just does it for the money. I have nothing against sponsors, making other shows, or selling merch... but when the main thing loses what it has become, that's when I feel a story has gone on for too long and lost its steam. I feel like shows like these should just end, but are too big to do so. A sad fate for honestly many recognizable franchises these days. As for the real-life person, I am sure he's a nice guy who is aware of these flaws and is still trying to improve while still keeping his new vision in mind. I can respect that, and I don't think he or his crew should be attacked for that. Remember, criticize the art, and not the artists. (If they are innocent.) Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted to give my thoughts on the matter, I loved the video as well. You really made me think a lot just to write this comment, The Sonic Hero! Thanks for reading, and have a good day/night!
I think he’s basically now the male Meggy where he and her started of as cool characters but Meggy became a Saiko clone and SMG4 just became so dislikeable
I like how he treats an outcasted character rudely just because the said character committed crimes and brainwashed others for their entertainment but when did THAT outcasted TV guy do anything so bad to SMG4, absolutely nothing at all, just caused madness in 4’s mind, that is it
Literally,SMG4:From a mature memelover guy with a heart and brain to a manchild addicted to memes and views (probably like drugs) with no life and heart and who seems to act way dumber than Mario most of the time.
I'm pretty sure SMG4 as a character being a youtuber has been a thing for a long while Even as early as the episode "account loss" when mario first met smg4 physically in person he says "oh yeah, you're that weird guy on UA-cam I work for." I never really had a problem with the "silly youtuber who likes memes" aspect of SMG4 since that's kinda what Luke is like as a person, he is a silly youtuber who likes memes. That being said I agree that I don't like how nowadays they made SMG4's self insert character into being some dude desperate and hungry for views that's even willing to hurt his friends for it. Don't get me wrong, the antics and challenges in "I put mario in danger for views" were silly and fun to watch but it doesn't make SMG4 as a character look good when he's so hellbent on views after the perfection arc and it makes me see why SMG4 (as a character) became r/SMG4's least favorite character (as stated by a video one of SMG4's editors/animators made) which hurts to say since smg4 as a character is a self insert and I feel like I'm low-key insulting Luke himself but I really don't wanna insult Luke cuz that'd be rude and mean
The meme stuff is too repetitive in my opinion, Smg4 should come up with more epic episodes rather than milking the idea of "Meme factory, Mr. Puzzles trying to steal the funi" like, where's the episodes like Mario Simulator and the road trip with toad, mario, and him? Miss those times because it was completely unique and fun to watch.
I kinda agree. But Luke (SMG4) and his team have to walk a very fine line there, because unfortunately, his fanbase is quite split. Since a large part, I'd even dare say THE BIGGER PART is ALL ABOUT the overly meme-y side, and despises it when SMG4 as a series gets more serious and epic.
@@awakenedcrowlI mean when you think back about episodes like Mario Goes to the Store to Get a Glass of Milk or the one where Peach dragged him to see some sort of musical theater or something, they weren’t really serious or epic at all especially in comparison to the more modern ones
Smg4 (2010's): well, time to make another video about mario being a dumbass with some random s$%t into it! Smg4 (2020's): ok, time to change the characters a bit, add more drama to the video, and what else.... nope, thats all of them! I sure they will love these!
I honestly remember when SMG4 was fun before the It's gonna be Perfect Arc started, heck i even missed him more when he was a Mario Recolor, now he's just like Family Guy, but on Gmod.
at this point i feel as if arcs are the saving point of smg4, considering how there was a mini arc out of nowhere, which even those aer starting to become questionable i ngeneral.
@@xTheMenaceHimselfxI mean Revalations has a lore worth reading imo but please don’t read all of the PV lore because as much as I love its saga, it is not worth the reading 2 to 3 hours worth of lore
For me, smg4 died when he turned the smg4 character into a meme addicted idiot, and the smg4 crew thing, meggy, and mostly, depending on new internet memes to keep his channel standing, even though it's already dead for me.
I stopped keeping up with new uploads years ago but hearing about his self insert undergoing this character change does and doesn’t surprise me. I remember seeing signs of this character shift with the meme machine bit from Mario-ception and the entire premise of the Stupid Mario Bros. Stupid show but I would’ve never imagined SMG4’s self insert becoming such an unlikable character. Ah well, I can always go back to the old blooper vids.
What ruined SMG4 as a series to me is that it now feels like a series where irl people traveled into a video game world, only for that world to be different than from what they were playing. No, this is not a bad plot concept, but for SMG4 it's bad because it overrode an already existing plot. "Mario world but (r-worded)," to what I've described. This isn't even a Mario show anymore, Mario and Luigi play roles any OC could've played. And it's baffling, we already had an episode "Mario in Real Life" which straight up showed actually good (even if without continuity) logic about traveling into that world. SMG4 is a real person visiting the Mario world, but in the Mario world he becomes a CHARACTER, while in the real world he's a human. But the same logic doesn't apply to the characters within the Mario world. I know I'm looking too deep into this, but SMG4 looked too deep into a world that he PERFECTLY KNEW didn't need to be looked into as well. And I know that he knew it shouldn't be deep because he created it. The old characters, like Bowser, Steve, Toad, Peach, etc... were entertaining, and SMG4 perfectly knew how to include them in a story. Even Bob and Fishy in the old videos were perfect, they were nothing more than side characters that literally every other character despised. But then SMG4 introduced Meggy, which is a character that SMG4 wrote to be too close to a real person, and not that it's a bad thing, but it's that it's almost impossible to fit that in a world like SMG4 and not butcher it. I have already explained it. Though, Meggy is tolerable, because, fun fact, but if you remove Saiko, Tari and Melony, the show will 100% stay the same. Saiko TILL THIS DAY played no actually important roles but introducing the "let's all be friends!" aspect of SMG4, while Tari and Melony were only ever useful in the arcs and... that is it. They simply played a role that either Minecraft Steve for example could've played. Or at least someone like him could've replaced Tari easily in the Waluigi arc. The Genesis and Revelations arc shouldn't even exist, because they just explain why the world is the way it is when NO EXPLANATION LIKE THAT WAS EVER NEEDED. Overall, I wish SMG4 just made a new series for the OCs, because now it's just unbearable to watch, especially with how cringy the voice acting is, they overact like hell.
I think it was because Luke thought the recoloured Marios were getting old so he made his fit more ‘unique’ though I’m not the biggest fan but I never really cared about both forms sooo..
Honestly, his channel has just got worse. It used to be ragdolls being flinged around in random shit which I admit, was funny. Now it's just highly animated stories with morals. And ever "meme" nowadays is just a png ever so often appearing.
@@IdioticFuel Sometimes the morals aren't even good, either. Like, they abandoned Peach after she housed SMG4 for about a decade for free, and then they proceed to not care when she still in the castle and pretend that they're heroes. It's gross to watch, so I just stopped overall.
Another problem I have is that when they make a whole storyline about how dead memes go to the dead meme graveyard, but the quote-on-quote, "Good Memes" are literally also dead memes 😭
*Mid-long comment about my take on SMG4:* Just saw this video, and im glad im not the only one who felt this way about SMG. Felt like this maybe all the way back to 2020. Already forgot when his modern character started to look like a rejected Astro Boy character, but I knew his humor changed. When he and meggy started talking, i kinda turned away and wasnt messing with the change personally. A simple nitpick, but i also grew up and had to focus more on life. I will always appreciate Luke for cementing his status as a legendary meme youtuber and especially as a show creator with his new show MurderDrones (GOATED SHOW BTW). Still need to watch the season finale, but I sincerely hope he continues to grow and make more phenomenal shows.
I feel like when it comes to SMG4, there's not really a singular era that is objectively the best, it kinda depends on how long one has been watching, with older viewers being nostalgic for the older SMG 4, while newer fans were not around for that period and as such have no nostalgia for it and may prefer the newer stuff. Perspective matters a lot.
@@rainlion10 im the opposite. I do like the character type of "not serious/very mean until something bad happens" so i like the newer (and older) smg4. i just wish that the other members like saiko was shown more.
Old SMG4: Mario is the idiot and SMG4 is the person combating his stupidity Current SMG4: Mario and SMG4 are the idiots and Meggy and SMG3 are the people combating their stupidity
I was sometimes like that sometimes I like subscribers and view but I learn that those are just for greed for me and I'll not greed for views or subscribers I love making videos and entertainment. Smg4, he still likes his friends and yeah he goes for views and making videos but he still cares.
@thesonichero2619 because he was trying to make the perfect video but he thought a new keyboard online would help but he ended up getting possessed by the keyboard
I just like to imagine that SMG4 hung around Mario and his antics so much for so long that his brain just began rotting away until he became like Mario, but that's mostly just me coping and trying to make sense of the change.
He's nothing like Mr. Krabs lol. Modern SMG4 Is just like Modern UA-camrs: Loud, Unfunny, Annoying, not treating you like a friend, but rather like a sole expectator. Mr. Krabs has nothing to do with all that except for the whole money thing.
Old SMG3: Nemesis of SMG4 who created interesting plot scenarios in which were all good a comedic for iconic episodes New SMG3: I’m gonna do something EVIL because I’m soooo EVIL (because it’s funny 🤪)
I really thought we were talking about Luke here.. but in all seriousness.. I don't think this is how he wanted HIS character to turn out.. SMG4 has always been at least a little view hungry, and I guess there was build-up in It's Gotta Be Perfect, but all of that just flew out the window because nothing from that arc has been referenced outside of "insane SMG4" which is just absurd because Meggy gets like ten thousand callbacks to her trauma or whatever. To me, Luke has become the face and voice only of SMG4, and has little to no control on what goes on with the character. (btw i didnt watch this video through lol)
Something that bothers me is that he calls himself a meme factory but all I see is memes he didn't make in his videos, nothing of his aside from the recent success of the digital circus is memeable. I'm just tired of how melodramatic his videos have become, there's so much freaking crying and always in those scenes Rosalina's theme starts playing without fail it makes me sick.
I feel like it would’ve been best for SMG4 to stop after PuzzleVision. Because I don’t think things are as funny anymore. Both The Lawsuit Arc & Western Spaghetti (in my opinion) are really stupid and wasn’t needed (and I just consider them as “filler”). Perfect & PuzzleVision we’re okay despite their flaws. But Not only did “SMG4 Dosen’t Meme For 1 Second” marked where I think the SMG4 series jumped the shark BIG TIME but also shows that SMG4 dosen’t at least have any better ideas in modern episodes. All they ever do is use SMG3 & Meggy as plot device to SMG4 & Mario, and they don’t even bother focusing on other characters that at least deserve a chance to have more story arcs like Tari, Melony & Karen. I mean come on! SMG4 is NOT The Simpsons, it can’t just keep going only to assassinate all the characters for worse! Please Just stop and let it rest already!
I miss when SMG3 was a villain, he was more epic when he was a villain. I don't got any problems with him not being a villain or nothing but it was more fun when SMG3 was actively evil
I view it as setting up a future arc, since there are parallels between Modern SMG4 and Mr. Puzzles: Both are obsessed with fame(SMG4 with views and Mr. Puzzles with ratings) and they would use anyone around them in order to get that fame.
i feel like recently smg4’s just become very static and it’s like nothing from the events of IT’S GOTTA BE PERFECT just went straight by him a night at smg4’s really pissed me off because he acted like nothing happened and as if he didn’t enslave leggies or his friends
I feel like the new SMG4 is not that bad I started to watch him in 2016 and I agree on how the character changing is bad but like the Mr Puzzles mini arc is still very fun and intresting and WOTFI 2023 man the song was good the story was alright I still love watching SMG4 videos. but still WE WANT THE OLD CHARACTERS BACK i miss jubjub and rob
SMG4 is that character that as time goes by, goes from being a charismatic character, friendly, serious, the voice of reason, the sarcastic friend and shit to slowly become a completely insane psychotic who wants views, wanting perfection and showing that he no longer cares about anything as long as he gets what he really wants, neglecting everything that made his character characteristic, practically becoming the version of evil madness of Chris of the future installments of Total Drama Series.
I'm just realizing that the cosmology really messes up his character in the early era, It seems like they wanted to imply he was always like this, but you never see these elements in any of the older episodes, not against giving him a back story, but it doesn't really make all that much sense
I'm searching outside the Bible say tomorrow when you leave and you know same as many beats is it possible depends with you it's me in the enemy ammo revenger and in the beginning he died skinny fine let me why
I feel like he knows what he’s doing,the puzzlevison series was a big flop (due to the ships) and I was like,you can’t go in be kidnapped and be in technology,and get controlled by a tv man,you live your own way of life,and putting Mario in danger was a GIANT flop. The dumb stories to chill and relax to from 2020 only ate cuz there was only irl him instead of the character.
I aint reading all that
@@Brawl_songs its litteraly only a couple sentences 😭
He wasn't talking to you@@TheSuperGoober
Old SMG4: being dragged to the insanity
New SMG4: dragging in the insanity himself
I realized this a while back, but that mental breakdown and insanity arc was not really caused by Mr. Puzzles, more so that Glitchy went insane and isolated himself from everyone and became a freaking turd. Even worse because he bought the keyboard AFTER his mental breakdown.
So Puzzles didn’t make him go insane, he just too ADVANTAGE of the fact that he was going insane
Yeah, Glitchy has become one of my least favorite characters ever since that video, and the recent mini arc about Puzzles
@@Doze1202 like I said before he got the Brian Griffin treatment but Kaioken X20 times worse
Future's, made of,
Virtual insanity now~
Smg4 then: I will never let anything bad happen to any of my friends
Smg4 now: Let’s exploit my friends for views!:D
Basically the mini arc in a nutshell
Basically Smg4 basically became how Smg3 was back then.
@@alexbain8606he was focused more for bloopers
@@RealisticOfficial7true
@@Dragonpaws64 Smg4 used to be like Brian Griffin, he was the voice of reason, gets dragged to the adventures without truly wanting to... And he just wanted to die so his nightmarish life with Mario (who was more of an asshole addicted to spaghetti who's best friend was the supposed villain of the mario franchise and had a frenemy relationship with Sonic and Smg4)
Do we remember when the pingas joke was a center joke of the channel?
Bro I miss the pingas meme 😭
...it still is...
I just laughed after reading pingas
Snooping as usual I see
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This reminds me a lot about John Arbuckle from Garfield. He used to be very grounded and more relatable in character, and served as a good counterpart to Garfield and his extreme gluttony and chaotic nature.
But now John is a complete goofball who often dresses in silly clothes, makes tons of dumb decisions, and has no friends/companions outside of his family and romantic partner Liz.
This is what I believe to be the worst decision the Garfield comics have made since not only has his newer personality gotten rid of one of his only other human friends, Lyman, since he was originally the goofy one of the two, but Garfield’s antics no longer seem special since there’s no longer much of a contrast between him and John, and Garfield just feels like a bored cynic now.
NO
@@scholartheterminator94 Care to elaborate?
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i strongly disagree, but i see your point
You do realise Jon has always been this way right? I have a collection of a bunch of the old comic strips, and Jon has always been wacky in a way.
I really like SMG4, but the character itself is, kinda just bad. The Straight man was a better role for him.
I just wish he had a more chilled back demeanor
wait smg4 is gay?
@@ebot1944 zesty smg4
@@n.park1 💅💅💅
@@ebot1944 slay power: activateddd
Modern SMG4 strikes me as the character that would be a bit of a jerk to his friends in a casual setting, but when the chips are down, absolutely go out of his way to defend them from real danger.
So like squidward
i thought you were talking about irl smg4😭😭
Same!!
no
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SAAAMMMMEEEE
An oddly pleasant surprise lol
The thing that I've noticed regarding how the SMG4 characters have evolved was that virtually almost all of them have become the "straight man" to other characters who have retained their original personalities to a degree like Mario or Bob. As a result, the "straight man" characters have become rather boring with only a couple things to help them stand out like Saiko having anger issues or Meggy being a sports-loving tomboy.
As you brought up in this video, SMG4's traits of being a "meme lord" and being a UA-camr were minor characteristics, but they have since been amplified as a means of making him stand out, and I feel like the minor characteristics of the other characters were also given the same treatment.
I can only think of a few characters that haven't changed all that much
Bob's the same
Arguably the only character i still enjoy, surprisingly enough.
@@frescodipomeriggio647I think swag and Chris are the same too (hopefully because ilt)
Honestly I can’t stand newer smg4, it’s kinda like how old family guy had more heart and you could see it in the animation. Smg4 has gone from blue mario to this weird human thing and has been flanderised in a pretty odd way.
At first I was thinking this was referring to the IRL smg4, but I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was a character analysis.
Then: SMG3 is too bad for him.
Now: SMG3 (until the Western Spaghetti turned him too into a manchild) is too good for him.
He was only man child ONE time
@@NotYourAverageTailsFan Not really, he's had his moments although he's arguably one of the better characters the show has to offer (Bob's also decent even though nowadays he's a punching bag).
@@yespetahirememberthetime89well SMG3 is my favourite SMG4 character
@@NotYourAverageTailsFan I can see why.
@@NotYourAverageTailsFan yeah, both Bob and Smg3 are the two best ones, since those two are the only ones who got an actual character arc
I know right. The character has changed so much. He went from the straight man to a goofy idiot. It’s weird how much characters can change in the series. The good and the bad
SMG4 turning into a guy obsessed with memes happened before the era of Hobo Bros. reacting to memes, so it's not the result of that. I think what happened is that the change was due to the change in the series itself, gradually becoming more and more about integrating memes rather than just simple Mario 64 Bloopers like any others, which I think had started around 2014. And since SMG4 the character was supposed to be a sort of self-insert representation of Luke himself to an extent, being shown in-universe to be the content creator who runs the SMG4 channel and makes the bloopers (which was acknowledged in the older era, maybe not that frequently but that was always his character), SMG4 the character started being depicted as being all about the memes because SMG4 the real life person was making memes or meme-heavy videos now.
That still doesn't mean you can change a character's personality just like that, it kinda sucks. If they wanted some other meme addicted character why didnt they make just one? Why did they need to turn smg4 into this? Thats my complain
@@oxintoma32devwel, real life porsonalities change and if smg4 represents Luke then it only really makes sense to change smg4's personality accordingly
@@calvinhoek9412 smg4 is a fictional character. If they made him a shitty self insert then idk
@@oxintoma32dev I'm fairly certain that smg4 is a self insert, which are supposed to represent the one inserting himself.
That or Luke is prepping something for a future arc with smg4's personality, but unlikely
I think one of the earliest times that his channel was acknowledged was during stupid paper Mario, when the whole joke was that he burned through all his money on a crane game and he had to send Mario out to find more money as the world slowly lost production value.
MediExcalibur2012 himself told us recently that SMG4 became the most hated character after fixing Meggy. So, coincidence, I think not!
Since when? Is it possible for me to see it?
@@ToadToon Holy crap! My bad, it was MediExcalibur2012! Sorry, will edit right now!
What the f
@@soulsolis3096 i mean, whats the video called?
@@ToadToon "I've been helping edit SMG4 videos for over 4 years so lets talk about it"
I grew up with smg4 and it's sad to see him devolve into a unlikable character :(
I really do feel like the Redesigns wasn't really apart of an arc but just a reason to sell merch
I also feel like that TV head character got sanitize into a powerful character who will most likely do nothing but be apart of some arc that kills him
When most people say their "SMG4 Fans" they're mostly talking about Glitch Studios
While the redesigns are probably an excuse for more merch, It's probably also because you know. Nintendo's a bitch when it comes to copyright. I do wish they had kept elements from their old arcs like characters dying and things being really crazy. The Genesis arc and Revelations was amazing in terms of story... and then they fell.
@@LoachSweetleaf see if it wasn't for the fact that smg4's old design was used in the remaster of who let the chomps out and another remastered video then I'd understand why people would think that
@@prosylan6368 That's fair, I completely forgot about the remakes.
@@LoachSweetleafalso Mario and Luigi still have the same design
@@LoachSweetleaf Luke and Kevin got a lot of negative feedback after killing off Axol, they wouldn't risk it again
Thanks for making this video
Modern SMG4 is now basically just a kids channel
funny thing is that smg4 literally points out the brainrot and made an entire episode roasting on it, yet he doesn't see what he had become
@@supermarioglitchy10 fr
He basically committed friendly fire
@@SMCwasTaken and if you are wondering my name, i had this name since 2017, back when smg4 was still y'know, smg4
@@supermarioglitchy10 yeah I understand
I remember back in quarantine days SMG4 was my favorite UA-camr
@@supermarioglitchy10 what an hypocrite, I rather watch that weird nugget and monkey thing or Family Guy clips with Subway Surfers rather than watching actual Smg4
I sorta feel like he hit a decline in 2020 and got worsened in 2022
Agreed, but I personally feel like it started in 2021. Again, that's just my opinion; I personally think some of his 2020 videos are pretty funny.
*This was not made to offend you. I have a paranoia of getting into fights on the internet after posting my opinion, so I'm sorry if this note was unnecessary.*
@@Galaxenro well I mean mid 2020 when the UA-cam arc started. Early 2020 was still good
@@Galaxenro dude, calm down no one who has commented here will start a fight with you (at least to my knowledge), just, don't worry about it
@@THEPASTALORD92 yeah i don't usually say this stuff my paranoia just randomly kicks in sometimes lol
Absolute agreement. It's not just him, but I'll just focus on him for this one. I believe he's hit rock bottom and Kevin won't do a thing about it.
SMG4 becoming his own model took a GIANT hit on the character
As an og watching that "who let the dogs out video" and watching the recreation, I can say his humor went down a lot
I kinda agree, I honestly think modern SMG4 is much less good compared to old SMG4! I missed when they were just making memes and not these HUGE overarching stories (the only arcs I liked were the waluigi and anime arc). After the lawsuit arc, my interest in the series fell off the face of the earth!
Same
@@TakashiGolbach Same, and i started to hate him other than Mario, after left Peach to die on her own.
I feel like lore has completely destroyed not only smg4, but his entire channel.
I'm not against story telling, but there comes a huge problem with continuity
@@sh2619-v9h like there’s so much plot armour it gets extremely annoying
One of the main problems with smg4 is the simple fact that he changed, His characters are more serious, the jokes are more obnoxious, Mario is literally the only thing left of his old legacy.
Not to mention youtube being more strict and the fear of nintendo going around, It's why we don't get any R*tarded 64 or any stories surrounding just mario being stupid or any of those characters.
I get the feeling that after SML got a Cease & Decest from Nintendo (with his Nintendo Distrack didn't help his situation at all), It made SMG4 making the lawsuit arc to changed his character design out fear that Nintendo might target him next, and making a jab at miyamoto in one of his war of the fat italian dint really help much (heck he even acknowledge it in his reaction).
I started watching this back when the Big Chungus episode released. SMG4 and Jeffy was basically my 2nd pair of parents back then. I really hated the recent design change in SMG4, but it really just makes the old gold even more valuable and nostalgic, which isn't half bad.
SMG4 the character did originally have moments when he was generally nice while having the flaw of him being view hungry until to be perfect happened now the writers keeping calling back to that like I thought the whole point of that movie was for SMG4 to not be so viewer Greedy
It scared the day become greedy, but he still lovable. I still like super Mario glitch 4 and I still like super Mario Logan both of them are not in their prime anymore, but I still love them regardless I will always
Character-wise, it's obvious that Classic SMG4 was better.
Its level-headed yet chaotic nature. It was a perfect balance of silliness and seriousness, plots were light-hearted and fun, but there were sometimes stakes and conflicts that were sensible and easy-to-understand. The story was literally, "Mario is a parody of the famous version of the plumber but is very stupid, snarky, and an overall unempathetic scumbag who lives in a computer that happens to contain more of these bootleg versions of the characters you know and love."
It was simple and that's why it worked, it was chaotic yet still grounded and recognizable.
The new SMG4 is honestly a downgrade because it's a perfect representation on why modern UA-cam is bad. New SMG4 is loud, annoying, in-your-face, and unfunny. It's just stealing audio from bad shorts and forcing dead memes and trends down your throat. It took the lives out of the iconic characters, gave them pretty but lifeless new models, it didn't work on Bob or Fishy Boopkins as their entire jokes were on the fact that Bob was a Garo and Fishy Boopkins was a Spike.
The "lore" became too serious and there were deaths, which just felt unfitting More OCs were also added, which varied from interesting characters who became worse over time, background characters wh just exist, and random characters with no real purpose to be there. Nintendo characters were also shoved out of the way for the OCs, even Mario himself got downgraded and sidelined for them. The only character I was slightly interested in was Karen due to the more light-hearted scenes and no-nonsense attitude.
It shows the difference between a passionate artist and a person who just does it for the money. I have nothing against sponsors, making other shows, or selling merch... but when the main thing loses what it has become, that's when I feel a story has gone on for too long and lost its steam. I feel like shows like these should just end, but are too big to do so. A sad fate for honestly many recognizable franchises these days.
As for the real-life person, I am sure he's a nice guy who is aware of these flaws and is still trying to improve while still keeping his new vision in mind. I can respect that, and I don't think he or his crew should be attacked for that. Remember, criticize the art, and not the artists. (If they are innocent.)
Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted to give my thoughts on the matter, I loved the video as well. You really made me think a lot just to write this comment, The Sonic Hero! Thanks for reading, and have a good day/night!
This was actually really interesting to read
I think he’s basically now the male Meggy where he and her started of as cool characters but Meggy became a Saiko clone and SMG4 just became so dislikeable
SMG4's writing getting worse resulting in the in-universe SMG4 becoming a loser
Yeah, he became so childish and unfunny after this "SMG4 crew" thing happened
I miss when it was named sm64 bloopers
smg4 crew is Mario does things, smg4 hardly ever appears in that series
@@Toadfish10 Yes but after it happened, it all became unfunny
I like how he treats an outcasted character rudely just because the said character committed crimes and brainwashed others for their entertainment but when did THAT outcasted TV guy do anything so bad to SMG4, absolutely nothing at all, just caused madness in 4’s mind, that is it
It was some what like adsf movie
i loved how this was actually talking about the charecter and not just yapping about "NeW sMG4 BAd ReTURN to MONKE"
Literally,SMG4:From a mature memelover guy with a heart and brain to a manchild addicted to memes and views (probably like drugs) with no life and heart and who seems to act way dumber than Mario most of the time.
Wth
The hellllllll
The hellllllll
True
Well, he still does hate skibidi toilet, so atleast theres that...
You're right tho
I'm pretty sure SMG4 as a character being a youtuber has been a thing for a long while
Even as early as the episode "account loss" when mario first met smg4 physically in person he says "oh yeah, you're that weird guy on UA-cam I work for." I never really had a problem with the "silly youtuber who likes memes" aspect of SMG4 since that's kinda what Luke is like as a person, he is a silly youtuber who likes memes.
That being said I agree that I don't like how nowadays they made SMG4's self insert character into being some dude desperate and hungry for views that's even willing to hurt his friends for it. Don't get me wrong, the antics and challenges in "I put mario in danger for views" were silly and fun to watch but it doesn't make SMG4 as a character look good when he's so hellbent on views after the perfection arc and it makes me see why SMG4 (as a character) became r/SMG4's least favorite character (as stated by a video one of SMG4's editors/animators made) which hurts to say since smg4 as a character is a self insert and I feel like I'm low-key insulting Luke himself but I really don't wanna insult Luke cuz that'd be rude and mean
SMG4 stopped being good since Meggy's face change
I agree, Meggy has Suffered a lot throughout the Arc's and Series, even she and Mario were now Acting like Siblings, rather than a Couple or Friends.
I miss classic SMG4, his entire character was ruined after the redesign
i agree
Agreed
I 10000% agree with this. I miss the old designs. Usually I only watch the videos before the Lawsuit arc
*downgrade
@@Redosus1010 TRUE
The meme stuff is too repetitive in my opinion, Smg4 should come up with more epic episodes rather than milking the idea of "Meme factory, Mr. Puzzles trying to steal the funi" like, where's the episodes like Mario Simulator and the road trip with toad, mario, and him? Miss those times because it was completely unique and fun to watch.
If *_SERIOUSLY_* is!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that way.
@@chillyducko yeah, that would be extremely fun to watch.
I kinda agree. But Luke (SMG4) and his team have to walk a very fine line there, because unfortunately, his fanbase is quite split. Since a large part, I'd even dare say THE BIGGER PART is ALL ABOUT the overly meme-y side, and despises it when SMG4 as a series gets more serious and epic.
@@awakenedcrowlI mean when you think back about episodes like Mario Goes to the Store to Get a Glass of Milk or the one where Peach dragged him to see some sort of musical theater or something, they weren’t really serious or epic at all especially in comparison to the more modern ones
@@IlluminatiWarrior-by2mz Well yeah. I'd never argue that
Modern SMG4 (the channel itself) is like a kids channel that thinks it's a webseries, with some random teenager joke sprinkled on top
This video is based. I’ve watched this series grow for years, and even *I* know he was never meant to be like this…
Even without watching certain videos, I can already get the gist of his character
Smg4 (2010's): well, time to make another video about mario being a dumbass with some random s$%t into it!
Smg4 (2020's): ok, time to change the characters a bit, add more drama to the video, and what else.... nope, thats all of them! I sure they will love these!
I honestly remember when SMG4 was fun before the It's gonna be Perfect Arc started, heck i even missed him more when he was a Mario Recolor, now he's just like Family Guy, but on Gmod.
amen, when he started to prioritize using garry's mod over mario 64, that's when i'd say he started to fall off.
I like to theorize that smg4 got more insane while hanging out with mario over the years.
SMG4 as a series stopped being good after 2018.
Nah. SMG4 didn't change. This is you changed.
at this point i feel as if arcs are the saving point of smg4, considering how there was a mini arc out of nowhere, which even those aer starting to become questionable i ngeneral.
I miss when I didn't have to read up on pages of lore just to enjoy SMG4 vids
@@xTheMenaceHimselfxI mean Revalations has a lore worth reading imo but please don’t read all of the PV lore because as much as I love its saga, it is not worth the reading 2 to 3 hours worth of lore
Thanks for making this. I hope Mediexcalibur2012 watches this so they can improve
For me, smg4 died when he turned the smg4 character into a meme addicted idiot, and the smg4 crew thing, meggy, and mostly, depending on new internet memes to keep his channel standing, even though it's already dead for me.
SMG4 before: just a chill meme guy
SMG4 now: annoying funny guy
I stopped keeping up with new uploads years ago but hearing about his self insert undergoing this character change does and doesn’t surprise me. I remember seeing signs of this character shift with the meme machine bit from Mario-ception and the entire premise of the Stupid Mario Bros. Stupid show but I would’ve never imagined SMG4’s self insert becoming such an unlikable character.
Ah well, I can always go back to the old blooper vids.
The meme machine thing felt like all the drug use just piled on and it all boiled up into one fever dream
What ruined SMG4 as a series to me is that it now feels like a series where irl people traveled into a video game world, only for that world to be different than from what they were playing. No, this is not a bad plot concept, but for SMG4 it's bad because it overrode an already existing plot. "Mario world but (r-worded)," to what I've described. This isn't even a Mario show anymore, Mario and Luigi play roles any OC could've played. And it's baffling, we already had an episode "Mario in Real Life" which straight up showed actually good (even if without continuity) logic about traveling into that world. SMG4 is a real person visiting the Mario world, but in the Mario world he becomes a CHARACTER, while in the real world he's a human. But the same logic doesn't apply to the characters within the Mario world. I know I'm looking too deep into this, but SMG4 looked too deep into a world that he PERFECTLY KNEW didn't need to be looked into as well. And I know that he knew it shouldn't be deep because he created it.
The old characters, like Bowser, Steve, Toad, Peach, etc... were entertaining, and SMG4 perfectly knew how to include them in a story. Even Bob and Fishy in the old videos were perfect, they were nothing more than side characters that literally every other character despised. But then SMG4 introduced Meggy, which is a character that SMG4 wrote to be too close to a real person, and not that it's a bad thing, but it's that it's almost impossible to fit that in a world like SMG4 and not butcher it. I have already explained it. Though, Meggy is tolerable, because, fun fact, but if you remove Saiko, Tari and Melony, the show will 100% stay the same. Saiko TILL THIS DAY played no actually important roles but introducing the "let's all be friends!" aspect of SMG4, while Tari and Melony were only ever useful in the arcs and... that is it. They simply played a role that either Minecraft Steve for example could've played. Or at least someone like him could've replaced Tari easily in the Waluigi arc. The Genesis and Revelations arc shouldn't even exist, because they just explain why the world is the way it is when NO EXPLANATION LIKE THAT WAS EVER NEEDED.
Overall, I wish SMG4 just made a new series for the OCs, because now it's just unbearable to watch, especially with how cringy the voice acting is, they overact like hell.
If Old SMG4 sees his own future... He will be very disappointed. To see his own future turned into this.
I miss when he was just a recolored mario.
Me too
Lawsuit arc shouldn't have to end like that
The old smg4 and the new one feel like the different characters
I think it was because Luke thought the recoloured Marios were getting old so he made his fit more ‘unique’ though I’m not the biggest fan but I never really cared about both forms sooo..
I really don't mind the change. I think SMG4 is at it's best when there is no clear straight man.
Finally someone who is talking abt this
SMG4 is a submachine gun but with a four that’s all you need to know
Snowtraped really did make him lose his role in the story
how did being freaky with smg3 make him lose his role? 😔
Honestly, his channel has just got worse. It used to be ragdolls being flinged around in random shit which I admit, was funny. Now it's just highly animated stories with morals. And ever "meme" nowadays is just a png ever so often appearing.
@@IdioticFuel Sometimes the morals aren't even good, either. Like, they abandoned Peach after she housed SMG4 for about a decade for free, and then they proceed to not care when she still in the castle and pretend that they're heroes. It's gross to watch, so I just stopped overall.
They did these stories probably to try get the Glitch watchers to get to SMG4; but I do definitely like Revelations, Western Spaghetti…
What morals
Another problem I have is that when they make a whole storyline about how dead memes go to the dead meme graveyard, but the quote-on-quote, "Good Memes" are literally also dead memes 😭
I miss when glitch didn’t exist when it was nothing
*Mid-long comment about my take on SMG4:*
Just saw this video, and im glad im not the only one who felt this way about SMG. Felt like this maybe all the way back to 2020.
Already forgot when his modern character started to look like a rejected Astro Boy character, but I knew his humor changed.
When he and meggy started talking, i kinda turned away and wasnt messing with the change personally. A simple nitpick, but i also grew up and had to focus more on life.
I will always appreciate Luke for cementing his status as a legendary meme youtuber and especially as a show creator with his new show MurderDrones (GOATED SHOW BTW).
Still need to watch the season finale, but I sincerely hope he continues to grow and make more phenomenal shows.
Finally people are acknowledging how bad of a character smg4 is
I feel like when it comes to SMG4, there's not really a singular era that is objectively the best, it kinda depends on how long one has been watching, with older viewers being nostalgic for the older SMG 4, while newer fans were not around for that period and as such have no nostalgia for it and may prefer the newer stuff. Perspective matters a lot.
Yeah, I’m not an old smg4 fan and I haven’t yet watched his old videos so I dont have a problem with his character right now
I'm a newer SMG4 fan and prefer his older vids 🤷♂
@@rainlion10 im the opposite. I do like the character type of "not serious/very mean until something bad happens" so i like the newer (and older) smg4. i just wish that the other members like saiko was shown more.
I miss the Nintendo era, when all the characters (like Bob and Boopkins) were taken from Nintendo games.
I like all of the videos (apart from the obviously poorly decided ones)
"I Worked For SMG4, He is a Fraud" ahh video😭🙏
Really
Maybe it’s cause of the puzzlevision arc maybe he’ll have character development or something? Cause Mr puzzles is the exact same way I think
Youre puring my heart out, thanks. Someone had to talk about it.
Old SMG4: Mario is the idiot and SMG4 is the person combating his stupidity
Current SMG4: Mario and SMG4 are the idiots and Meggy and SMG3 are the people combating their stupidity
The only thing I want from SMG4 is to change back to his classic blue Mario design and I want his old personality
I was sometimes like that
sometimes I like subscribers and view but I learn that those are just for greed for me and I'll not greed for views or subscribers
I love making videos and entertainment.
Smg4, he still likes his friends and yeah he goes for views and making videos but he still cares.
He went from :
Violence is the answer kids :D
To:
Oh no, it’s a paint gun, gotta censor it for moneh
The reason he acted crazy was because he bought a vursed keyboard without knowing so he got possessed
y
@thesonichero2619 because he was trying to make the perfect video but he thought a new keyboard online would help but he ended up getting possessed by the keyboard
Bro the its got to be perfect arc is a representation of smg4 creator
ok
Finally someone covered this, you gained a sub
So basically he has a crippling meme addiction
I just like to imagine that SMG4 hung around Mario and his antics so much for so long that his brain just began rotting away until he became like Mario, but that's mostly just me coping and trying to make sense of the change.
From a nice dude to a Mr.Krabs clone.
At least Mr. Crabs could be likable sometimes
@@sh2619-v9h True.
He's nothing like Mr. Krabs lol. Modern SMG4 Is just like Modern UA-camrs: Loud, Unfunny, Annoying, not treating you like a friend, but rather like a sole expectator. Mr. Krabs has nothing to do with all that except for the whole money thing.
this was literally my childhood :(
I miss the smg4 that didn't turn every video into a character arc or some random lore story and just made random videos for funnies and laughs
Ngl to me, he's still a legend.
Old SMG3: Nemesis of SMG4 who created interesting plot scenarios in which were all good a comedic for iconic episodes
New SMG3: I’m gonna do something EVIL because I’m soooo EVIL (because it’s funny 🤪)
I like to think that the persistent chaos he has been put through made him snap and go insane
smg3 at this point is just old smg4 but a tiny bit meaner and likes twitch
twitch...
I really thought we were talking about Luke here.. but in all seriousness.. I don't think this is how he wanted HIS character to turn out.. SMG4 has always been at least a little view hungry, and I guess there was build-up in It's Gotta Be Perfect, but all of that just flew out the window because nothing from that arc has been referenced outside of "insane SMG4" which is just absurd because Meggy gets like ten thousand callbacks to her trauma or whatever.
To me, Luke has become the face and voice only of SMG4, and has little to no control on what goes on with the character.
(btw i didnt watch this video through lol)
Something that bothers me is that he calls himself a meme factory but all I see is memes he didn't make in his videos, nothing of his aside from the recent success of the digital circus is memeable. I'm just tired of how melodramatic his videos have become, there's so much freaking crying and always in those scenes Rosalina's theme starts playing without fail it makes me sick.
What I don't understand about smg4 as a character is that if Luke wanted to do more meme centered videos then why did he stop doing ssedmodnar.
l
I really do love this guy and his content even till this day, but I hate to admit it, but the title is a true
I agree that SMG4 has changed, but his videos are entertaining nonetheless
I feel like it would’ve been best for SMG4 to stop after PuzzleVision. Because I don’t think things are as funny anymore. Both The Lawsuit Arc & Western Spaghetti (in my opinion) are really stupid and wasn’t needed (and I just consider them as “filler”). Perfect & PuzzleVision we’re okay despite their flaws. But Not only did “SMG4 Dosen’t Meme For 1 Second” marked where I think the SMG4 series jumped the shark BIG TIME but also shows that SMG4 dosen’t at least have any better ideas in modern episodes. All they ever do is use SMG3 & Meggy as plot device to SMG4 & Mario, and they don’t even bother focusing on other characters that at least deserve a chance to have more story arcs like Tari, Melony & Karen. I mean come on! SMG4 is NOT The Simpsons, it can’t just keep going only to assassinate all the characters for worse! Please Just stop and let it rest already!
That’s what I was thinking, it’s always the same characters… when the hell will Saiko be relevant again?
I miss when SMG3 was a villain, he was more epic when he was a villain. I don't got any problems with him not being a villain or nothing but it was more fun when SMG3 was actively evil
I view it as setting up a future arc, since there are parallels between Modern SMG4 and Mr. Puzzles: Both are obsessed with fame(SMG4 with views and Mr. Puzzles with ratings) and they would use anyone around them in order to get that fame.
It all started when that stupid Splatoon character got introduced into the series
This is some "Things that Oneyplays would mention in an compilation of old youtubers" stuff
4's recent characterization has been flabbergasting. How the hell did they make him one of the worst characters of the show with his name in it?
Welp
"enjoy it while it lasts" is real.
Wait he isn't the voice of reason anymore, its over
i feel like recently smg4’s just become very static and it’s like nothing from the events of IT’S GOTTA BE PERFECT just went straight by him
a night at smg4’s really pissed me off because he acted like nothing happened and as if he didn’t enslave leggies or his friends
The ending cooked the entire episode, honestly. All that villainous 4 buildup seems to have been for nothing.
I feel the reason smg4 stopped being the straight man to Mario is because Luigi has kind of taken that role.
0:03 The video didnt even start and smg4 areadly died-
As usual 😍
I CAST FLYING MARIO
only real smg4 fans will remember.....the igloo incident
I feel like the new SMG4 is not that bad I started to watch him in 2016 and I agree on how the character changing is bad but like the Mr Puzzles mini arc is still very fun and intresting and WOTFI 2023 man the song was good the story was alright I still love watching SMG4 videos. but still WE WANT THE OLD CHARACTERS BACK i miss jubjub and rob
Mr. Puzzles Keyboard made him view hungry
SMG4 is that character that as time goes by, goes from being a charismatic character, friendly, serious, the voice of reason, the sarcastic friend and shit to slowly become a completely insane psychotic who wants views, wanting perfection and showing that he no longer cares about anything as long as he gets what he really wants, neglecting everything that made his character characteristic, practically becoming the version of evil madness of Chris of the future installments of Total Drama Series.
Y’know, I really didn’t realise that’s how his character changed but dang, stuff happened and good analysis