Dude how the hell are you pushing out this much quality content this quickly? This is a manic pace, and all of these videos will be relevant forever. This is seriously impressive stuff
MoP Brewmaster was the most fun I have ever had tanking. I wish we would go back to that yes it was mega hard for the average player but it was so rewarding. I remember tanking dungeons where healers would groan the moment they saw a monk tank because “they are so squishy” then they saw me and how I took like no damage
I never got why people thought monks were squishy. You just had to manage your staggered damage, heal and use defensives appropriately. I did see some absolutely awful examples of monk tanks, but the vast majority were totally fine. I both tanked with my own monk and healed monks with my shaman. I honestly preferred healing them rather than warriors.
Honestly after I do a "was it any good" I hear so many people say how they loved a class. After doing this one, I wished I played the Monk more in MoP! What an amazing class. I played my rdruid all the way through and it was amazing as well.
I skipped Mists of pandaria but came back with WoD. To me WoD is only good memories because of how much fun it was to play Brewmaster monk. When it got pruned in legion a lot of the fun was gone. Now in BFA its a relaxed ride without much difficulty, like the original monk on autopilot. Would love to play brewmaster again from a few expansions back. Great video!
Staff of Westfall, pretty much best warrior weapon until Whirlwind Axe on Alliance side. +11 spirit and high auto attack damage is great for warriors at that level. Even if there are other options before level 30, the biggest upgrades are out of the way and annoying to get.
@@Link9164 Sure, if you can find a group for it, it's an alternative to Whirlwind Axe. Finding an Alliance group for RFK is pretty much impossible though, because of the travel time and level range. At the level where you'd do RFK is similar to when you'd do SM, which means Alliance will go there instead. As for warriors, they obviously want Ravager at level 37.
@mdx some specs got better since MoP not saying every single one was best in MoP but majority of classes are much worse due to pruning combined with post Legion pruning. So basically double pruning in BfA
@@azzurrin889 Idk if every class was good, i just liked monks and a bit of rogue, never really touched the others, but i've seen a lot of people liking how MoP was when it came to class fantasy and such... So, probably FACTS
@@kaizouttv Unlike most of the other hybrid classes, monks level easier & faster as a tank or healer spec than as the dps spec. Brewmasters can use chain aoes and are survivable enough to burn through them and mistweavers can just heal through anything. Windwalker is a distant third as far as solo leveling (at least that was the case when I got fed up and quit in early legion).
Hey man, I appreciate these videos you're making. I played vanilla to wrath and your channel has helped me catch up on what's happened in wow while being entertaining during weird times. Cheers from Florida
One correction: for leveling the buff you get from the quests every 10 levels (and each day) have a buff that increased experience gain by 50% I believe. Made leveling super easy, especially if you leveled an hour or two each day, you would always have the buff.
and you could stack it, 1 login per day to stack until you decide to lvl up monk with all rested and exbuffs, add to the fact that monks can do every role in dung and you have turbo exping alt
2 year old comment, but I'd like to add if you had refer a friend active (I multiboxxed it) you could hit 85 in a day using dungeon finder. (RAF stopped at 80 iirc but you could gift levels up to 85) It was fun queuing as both tank and heal with dual monks and healing through mostly damage.
MoP was pretty much the most fun I've had in WoW. It's one of few expansions when I've enjoyed every single aspect of the game, daily content, dungeons, raiding, PvP, professions, all of it.
Cottidae I’d agree for a lot of it but the dailies were god awful. I think the expansion got progressively better. 5.3 and 5.4 were great patches. Isle of Thunder + Timeless isle did have dailies but were fun zones imo. But I really disliked dailies in earlier patches
Yea bro monks were broken as healers and so was blood dk me and my buddy did Galakras I solo healed it and he solo tanked it cause I just put my statue down by the NPCs while we went to towers and my statue healed the group while I healed him up top. Easily one of my fav moments.
@@TheLastOneUsaw the way renewing mist and uplift work is awesome. I like essence font but uplift is just better and might work better with gust of mist
The big issue with monk tanking that scared many people was the seeming lack of big get out of jail cooldowns (like pally bubble, druid savage defence etc), coupled with low max HP. I know in my raid team they were initially skeptical if I would survive progression raiding as a monk. It took the community a long time to understand that (good) monks took a lot less damage than other tanks. Levelling was broken as, from someone who pursued a monk from level 1 the second MoP went live, between being able to tank roll dungeons and then every 10 levels (plus daily) getting the bonus EXP buff that came with our training quests, we were easily able to rush up to higher levels. I think the bigger issues were simply that it was different, and people struggled to deal with different.
Thank you for video, really enjoyed strolling down memory lane. Having played multiple classes from Vanilla to now, I can say without a doubt that Monk is my favorite and plays a large factor into why I consider MoP to be my favorite expansion. The class just so unique and diverse, had a blast with Windwalker throughout it's entirety despite the constant development; miss it very much. Bit of fun facts from that awesome era: -Windwalker had undergone 3 Mastery's throughout MoP's duration, landing on Bottled Fury v2 with Tigereye Brew causing 3% per stack, 30% at 10 (6% per stack, 60% at 10 during WoD) -The T15 Windwalker 4pc bonus seen in the video was previously the specs Mastery, Bottled Fury v1 - it was swapped when Monks were using the Rune of Re-Origination trinket to snapshot Mastery to gain large amounts of damage during the Tigereye Brew window; previously the set bonus gave a chance to gain an additional stack of Tigereye Brew -Dematerialize - when the Monk was stunned they would go immune for X seconds - made Mistweaver extremely broken in PvP (which is ironicly has been their bane since) -Fists of Fury used to stun, multiple times in fact should the opposition choose to try and break the stun to run (although it didn't do the crazy damage like it does til WoD) -Touch of Karma used to reflect 100% of the Windwalkers health of the damage taken, which you can imagine the large outcry from the playerbase that wanted to just burst everything but instead were punished for not heeding the mechanic/animation -Paralysis had a positional requirement, becoming a longer CC if used behind the target -Windwalker Blackout Kick used to heal themselves when attacking an enemy from the front, and apply a DoT when attacking from behind (or glyphed) -Jab was the Monks primary generator and would change icons and sound effects depending on the main hand weapon of the Monk -The Swift Reflexes passive would cause the Monk to perform a low damage attack upon parrying an attack, which caused a bit of problems with achievement runs such as Iron Dwarf Medium Rare -Speaking of passives, Windwalker had a Passive called Sparring which stacked up to 3 times to increase Parry chance by 15% (5 per stack), along with a Glyph that had a chance to deflect magic for the same stack amount -Brewmaster Black Ox Statue would provide an absorption shield depending on the amount of damage the Brewmaster had dealt, allowing the user to shield every party member (before it was turned into Stoneclaw Totem) -Dizzying Haze granted a 3% chance for the enemy to miss their attacks and secondary way to apply Keg Smash's debuff (for Breath of Fire) -Monk had a buff called "Legacy of the Emperor" which increased stats, while Windwalker had an additional buff "Legacy of the White Tiger" that increased Crit -Provoke can/could be used negatively to troll, like speeding up Armsmaster Harlan's Whirlwind/Bladestorm, causing Thok and Garalon to run faster to their Focused Target, etc. -Expel Harm became a spammable heal should the Brewmaster fall below 35%, making a really geared/good one almost unkillable to the high stacks of Thok -Tiger Strikes passive used to cause Monks have faster auto attacks and 4 additional auto attacks per stack - there's irony to had here as after it's change and removal Windwalker has been faced with the problem of Fists of Fury causing less auto attacks which makes the spec benefit less from Auto Attack related procs ala Trinkets, Corruptions, etc
Nice vid! I recently started playing wow and after trying a few classes I settled on windwalker monk. The nice movement and interesting rotation is really fun.
MOP was the last time the mechanics in WoW worked well and felt effectively designed... from then on it was downhill, especially since they depowered the monks to make them less effective in each of their three possible party positions.
I miss mistweaver so much, I really wanted this class to come back in Shadowlands. Instead there's multiple useless long cooldowns and further pushing the shitty Legion/BfA Mistweaver. Blizz really should bring this back, now it seems to be mechanically worse in every way
It was a single character called brewmaster tho. That’s like arguing that “tinker class was always in Warcraft, because there was a character called tinker in wc3”
Monk was a class that was good even without knowledge and micro in mop, but when you actually learned and mastered the playstyle it was absolutely insane. The complexity of mop monk was something that I doubt blizzard can ever do again.
StormEarth&Fire wasn't a CD in MoP, it was changed to a cleave CD in legion. In MoP it didn't have a CD and you would cast them on mobs with a max of 2. It was a part of how you would cleave and AOE. SEF was a huge part of WW game play and was considered really difficult to use effectively and took a lot of planing and forethought. I used to played a WW back in ToT and SoO and it was amazingly deep and complex and that was partly why I loved it.🔥🔥🔥
The way belts work in martial arts is essentially your mastery over different forms, and knowledge as well as discipline. From the dojos I was taught at, it went from White->Orange-->Yellow-->Green-->Red--->Brown--->Black You'd get stripes on your belt based on your progress of your belt, and after you'd get 4 stripes, you'd take a test to move onto the next belt. The test would usually be memorization of forms, holding stances, sparing with your peers of the same belt, or sometimes your seafoo depending on the class (seafoo = teacher).
WillE, SignsOfKelani (Salami) and Nobbel87. These people revive my will to play this game, whenever I get a burn-out. Please keep up what you're doing mate, you don't have to keep up the quick pace of content, so you don't get a burn-out from working aswell. I respect you even more, for not putting click-bait titles and making half of your video an ad for a VPN. Unlike some other youtubers I know... *cough**Bellular**cough* ;)
My best memory of monks in MoP was a duel between my MW and my friend's Frost DK. We dueled for a solid 10 minutes rotating cooldowns until eventually he got a few lucky crits before my Xuen came back up. An on looker asked me for tips afterwards and was shocked to learn I was specced as a healer.
I loved WW from ToT 5.2 onward. Arena was so much fun, but my best memories were actually as FC in RBGs, was so underrated with stacking sta/res, your port, great mobility and cc, etc. As human I would run 1-2 heroic thunderforged trinkets from ToT, crazy dmg, unfortunately my dps was usually bottom half on single target bosses, still a ton of fun though.
Was hyped as hell for monk before MoP released. Made a Monk with my buddy and we leveled together- he a Brewmaster, me a Windwalker. Always loved this class.
I leveled a troll and a human monk. It’s definitely one of my favorite classes, easy top 3, I like it a lot. I feel in love with mist and had a ball tanking my first raid, ww I just used open world, I like bfa version more. I agree that this class did and still does require a decent player; I am by no means “good” at wow, but I can tell when I’m doing well and doing bad on my monk. I’m can auto pilot heal with almost the other heals spec, can’t with mist
Monk’s been my main and favorite class since MoP (Mained a Paladin in Cata). MW was (and still is) my favorite healer. Same goes for BrM and it’s fast paced juggling of buffs. I loved how different and unique it was to all of the other healers. Legion was terrible for both BrM and MW since they removed what made them unique and fun. MW was made to be the same as a regular healing/Resto Druid and BrM was made to be similar to any other tank. Also, removing Chi from Brewmaster and Mistweaver was one of the worst decisions they made for the class in my opinion. It completely gutted the flow and choice of the specs. Some viewed it as liberating, but it ruined the aspect of choice between abilities and the overall feel of the specs. I had a similar issue with Paladin, but I near they are getting Holy Power back in Shadowlands. Here’s to hoping that they do the same for Monk.
I leveled to 60 on my night elf monk during MoP and then used my level 90 character boost to get to level cap after pre-orders for WoD became available (that way, I could get maximum level leatherworking and skinning just in time for the new expansion). I enjoyed my monk and still do even though it has changed quite a bit since MoP.
MoP other than being killed by memes was such a lighting in a bottle moment of class design, story telling and just well everything that is a shame it didn't get the love it deserved
The months before MoP dropped, I did the "Invite a Friend" thing and had I thnk 80 levels saved up. So once my Pandaren got off of the Turtle, I went to orgrimmar and was level 80 in about 10 minutes :) Loved the Monk, loved the Pandaren, loved MoP. Was the last expansion I really played, as WoD just took WoW out back and put it down. Didn't come back till Classic was release.
Everyone slept on the Monk in MoP, but I was loving it! My only regret is I enjoyed WW so much, I never got around to playing the other specs during this time, as well as other Classes that are now pretty legendary in MoP like Destro and Ele; I have since gone back and played these specs... but for Monks I just have too much fun on WW to give the other specs a go.
Monks never interested me before the recent 100% XP boost, and I thought It would have been cool to level a class because I don't really see purpose of doing BFA endgame content anymore. So I started a gnome monk few nights ago and let me tell you, I had a blast because I wasn't even aware of me staying up all night leveling, but I just did naturally. Time flies when you are having fun, on top of that monks get 50% exp boost which made it even faster. What really pulled me in is the rotation and the mastery that gives % dmg if you don't repeat the same ability in a row, and you can only use whirling dragon punch when your fist of fury and risen sun kick is on cd, it is so rewarding to press it for some reason. :D Overall It really got me out of the boring aspects of BFA. Next Is DK, I haven't played a dk before ever.
i feel like DK is all cool and games at first but then it gets really boring, really fast when you discover their rotations. I’m rolling a monk just rn, lvl25, it’s fun as hell so far!
I think monk design was spot on. I did not really like the healer spec but I dont really play healers in general. I loved monk tanking, you could really tell if a monk tank was a skilled player or just a random button smasher. And WW monk was really fun in pvp, countering the crap out of those boring frostmages and feral druids :D
this made me remember windwalker mastery being changed every patch. combobreaker procs ,chi / energy spheres, faster tigereye brew generation come to mind immediately. still loved it and really looking forward to being able to choose between onehander and staff/polearm again. if i remember correctly, they gave 1handed +damage and 2handed +attack speed (also you only had to get your hands on one weapon that way, which would be really good with the bfa droprates of weapons) whilst being at it, do you remember not being allowed to use heirlooms in the pandaren starting zone because you had to send it per mail, but those characters arent part of the factions
I think when he said they come out with good gear that doesn’t matter due to heirlooms, they were referring to the fact that everyone had access to better gear by the time you leave thanks to heirlooms. But yes, pandaren didn’t and still don’t have mailboxes which stopped them
I really wish they were to go back and give Monks stances back, mainly the MW as i loved the proper fistweaving playstyle. Ive been playing monk since WOD and i really loved the stances.
I Mist weaver during mop . It was so fun I switched from my priest that I had been playing since tbc. Extra mobile with damage to healing conversion. It was so good. Then in legion, instead of leaning into the fantasy they completely remade the class in to just another healer and stripped e everything that made it fun. Sure it made it easier to pick up for new people but it wasn't as fun.
Every martial art takes progression different way, but general idea is that you start with white belt and then, yellow - > green - > blue - > red -> black -> different master levels at black
I remember ww monk was pretty fun when mop just came out. That healing u could put on the ground was op for pvp :) but was only expansion I liked the monk. After mop I never played wow again only vanilla/TBC p-servers.
I’ll be honest. I only had a monk for my Herald of the Titan toon. Completely OP even without any tier gear and it was good for just about any role though I played as healer. I really got into researching BiS gear for it, since all the guides at the time did not have an update for monk. It was fun, but it also took up my monk slot, and I already had a bunch of alts that were raid ready. Plus I’ve never leveled her beyond 80 due to the fact idk if someone wants to make another Herald of the Titans run. I’ve done it 3 times so far, in addition to my first time, so it honestly makes sense to keep her there.
Monk in MoP was the most powerful class ever in WoW (yes stronger than DK at WotLK launch), but only in the hands of an exceptional player. The best player I every played with could do unbelievable things on his monk.
BM was the best tank towards the end of the expansion due to more mastery the better stagger was. All top guilds ram double BM or DM/BDK. Monk is still my favorite class, I think it’s fun, and flashy
The initial version of the monk class quest that gives the buff enlightenment use to be much much better. It use to give you 50% increased EXP gain for 1 hour instead of mastery, and the duration could stack. I remember only leveling my monk on the weekends and simply flying through levels with heirlooms and a 8 hour 50% exp buff. However, if you died, the buff was removed. Pretty harrowing to risk wiping in dungeons groups as a tank.
I main a monk in retail since I joined in 2015. I used to be a hunter main in private servers, but hunters were such no brain classes and I hated their pets. I experimented with druid for a bit, but I didn't like the feel of it. I wanted to have a class that was like a druid, had similar specs, wasn't all about nature and trees. I liked the aesthetic and feel of the monk, so I went with that when making my first character on retail. I have so much gametime poured into my female blood elf monk, I love her. :D She's Sunbursts-DraenorEU. :)
I main a monk. Been playing it since middle of Legion. I love it! Every time I try to play something else (as a main), I get bored and go back to the monk.
WW monk was the most fun i had in wow pvp ( on par with frost mage in TBC ), ppl were sayng they were squishy lol, they didn't knew how to use it's mobility, once you did with teleports, healing orbs etc was a killing machine, it had very huge skill cealing, oh and the MW specc in MOP was hands down the best and most fun healing gameplay i ever played in wow
I was a MW monk main back in MoP, with a resto druid alt. While MW surely took more effort to play well than resto, never running out of mana, and being able to fistweave was infinitely more fun. Ring of Peace was actually quite a good external damage mitigation tool for tanks! Just let the tank round up a big old deathball, RoP, then roll in for RJW and fistweaving to help mow down the ball. The biggest downside to MW healing was the lack of control you had over your heals. Renewing mist's "smart" heal wasn't all that smart and constantly reminding people to step on your balls (mastery) was awkward.
That footage of a mistweaver playing a battle ground is from a private server, right? I might even know which one exactly, since the title is bugged there and you could have it forever if you perform some shenanigans, and the chat has a custom channel. Also the monk and the mage from the clip both have the swift spectral tiger which is pretty popular with pserver players since it's a BoE, looks great and usually is affordable by anyone unlike the Retail version of it. Awesome content btw, I'm enjoying every single video I watch. Even tho I know pretty much everything about the game since I've been playing it for nearly 15 years. Thanks for your hard work, I appreciate the effort.
I remember playing all the specs, they were all so much different than other classes and so much fun! Everything they have done to the class pulled me away from this class being my main, the gross simplification of the class disgusts me! I miss leaving orbs for my compatriots on the ground, fist-weaving through LFR and LFG was unique and an amazing idea!
You should remake the video now that Classic MoP is on the horison , you could include such things as loggs from back in the day comparing the 3 diffrent specs to their counterparts in the 3 diffrent tiers. You could draw examples from AoE fights, ST fights, Cleave fights and showcase what each spec was good at. You could for example show world farming, elite soloing . (For example WW and BM were godlike at AoE farming because of their CC/burst dmg and MW could AoE farm aswell very safely due to alot of HoTs and decent dmg) You could showcase how well monks were doing in BGs and Arena , i belive theres still rank information to be found from MoP days. Would love to see a more detailed video hyping up Classic MOP!
Dude how the hell are you pushing out this much quality content this quickly? This is a manic pace, and all of these videos will be relevant forever. This is seriously impressive stuff
He's dedicated af 👌
genuine fan
So humbling to hear! I love what I do, and I do what I love. That's it!
You're a beast mate, love your content
I mean what else can he do during quarantine lol
Just to note, the Wandering Isle wasn't specific to Monks, but for Pandaren instead.
After last 3 videos, got Pandaren on the brain apparently.
WillE
Also the buff you get for completing the daily monk quest would give you an hour long +50% XP gain.
(when you ain't at max lvl)
I came down to comment section to check this exactly :)
MoP Brewmaster was the most fun I have ever had tanking. I wish we would go back to that yes it was mega hard for the average player but it was so rewarding. I remember tanking dungeons where healers would groan the moment they saw a monk tank because “they are so squishy” then they saw me and how I took like no damage
what's different about them now, i resubbed this week but i only play classic but been thinkin of just messin around with this class.
I never got why people thought monks were squishy. You just had to manage your staggered damage, heal and use defensives appropriately. I did see some absolutely awful examples of monk tanks, but the vast majority were totally fine. I both tanked with my own monk and healed monks with my shaman. I honestly preferred healing them rather than warriors.
Exactly the same feeling but with Mistweaver :)
Monk was the first time I played a character more than druid since TBC. Such a fun class
Honestly after I do a "was it any good" I hear so many people say how they loved a class. After doing this one, I wished I played the Monk more in MoP! What an amazing class. I played my rdruid all the way through and it was amazing as well.
Bro Paladins
speedy1through9 paladins are and always will be the best
@@jacobchevalier1909 *cough* ret i classic *cough*
nicklas abrahamsson you would have to be one of those alliance pigs though
Monk was always so fun. Stagger was an awesome mechanic, touch of death was badass, and rolling around never gets old
Brewmaster is and always will be my favorite tank spec, it's a shame BFA made them so dull to play.
I skipped Mists of pandaria but came back with WoD. To me WoD is only good memories because of how much fun it was to play Brewmaster monk. When it got pruned in legion a lot of the fun was gone. Now in BFA its a relaxed ride without much difficulty, like the original monk on autopilot. Would love to play brewmaster again from a few expansions back. Great video!
MoP private servers exist and populated my dud
But mr Frodo...the gear sets look bad
@@ABonafideSkeleton i just want my legion windwalker again, that shit was absurdly strong in 2s arena lmao, easiest 2k ive ever experiencee
What about monks in classic?
/looks at warriors who use staffs
Staff of Westfall, pretty much best warrior weapon until Whirlwind Axe on Alliance side. +11 spirit and high auto attack damage is great for warriors at that level. Even if there are other options before level 30, the biggest upgrades are out of the way and annoying to get.
@@CottidaeSEA The axe from RFK is really easy yo pick up tho.
@@Link9164 Sure, if you can find a group for it, it's an alternative to Whirlwind Axe. Finding an Alliance group for RFK is pretty much impossible though, because of the travel time and level range. At the level where you'd do RFK is similar to when you'd do SM, which means Alliance will go there instead. As for warriors, they obviously want Ravager at level 37.
Disc priests were suposed to be the "monk" class, with them having armor buffs and melee talents
Monk became my main during and after MoP, just feels fun to play
Monks back in pandaria was so fun, i've NEVER had more fun with any classes since my Paladin back in TBC or my lil DK in wrath, my lawd
I'm pretty sure every class back in Pandaria was the best iteration of that class.
@@azzurrin889 mostly facts
@mdx some specs got better since MoP not saying every single one was best in MoP but majority of classes are much worse due to pruning combined with post Legion pruning. So basically double pruning in BfA
@@azzurrin889 Idk if every class was good, i just liked monks and a bit of rogue, never really touched the others, but i've seen a lot of people liking how MoP was when it came to class fantasy and such...
So, probably FACTS
Seriously it's criminal how underrated Monks are. They're fun as hell and extremely versatile.
Spaceboi Scapahandre idk if it’s just me, but all through leveling my windwalker monk has felt extremely weak and squishy so I’ve just left it at 105
@@kaizouttv Unlike most of the other hybrid classes, monks level easier & faster as a tank or healer spec than as the dps spec. Brewmasters can use chain aoes and are survivable enough to burn through them and mistweavers can just heal through anything. Windwalker is a distant third as far as solo leveling (at least that was the case when I got fed up and quit in early legion).
@@brianbates212 yeah wW was only good for leveling in legion
Hey man, I appreciate these videos you're making. I played vanilla to wrath and your channel has helped me catch up on what's happened in wow while being entertaining during weird times. Cheers from Florida
One correction: for leveling the buff you get from the quests every 10 levels (and each day) have a buff that increased experience gain by 50% I believe. Made leveling super easy, especially if you leveled an hour or two each day, you would always have the buff.
and you could stack it, 1 login per day to stack until you decide to lvl up monk with all rested and exbuffs, add to the fact that monks can do every role in dung and you have turbo exping alt
@@mefikFS Yeah, plus taking both of the 300% xp pots, i leveled a monk from 10~ to 120 in one day
2 year old comment, but I'd like to add if you had refer a friend active (I multiboxxed it) you could hit 85 in a day using dungeon finder. (RAF stopped at 80 iirc but you could gift levels up to 85)
It was fun queuing as both tank and heal with dual monks and healing through mostly damage.
Mistweaver was the most fun I've had healing in MoP. Rip instant uplift. Actually, rip uplift
Not to forget chi-torpedoing through groups of people^^
RIP Spinning Crane Kick healing
RIP 1 second global cooldown + instant casts and complex resource management. Was great
MoP was pretty much the most fun I've had in WoW. It's one of few expansions when I've enjoyed every single aspect of the game, daily content, dungeons, raiding, PvP, professions, all of it.
Cottidae I’d agree for a lot of it but the dailies were god awful. I think the expansion got progressively better. 5.3 and 5.4 were great patches. Isle of Thunder + Timeless isle did have dailies but were fun zones imo. But I really disliked dailies in earlier patches
MoP mistweaver is easily my favorite class/spec Ive ever played.
Yea bro monks were broken as healers and so was blood dk me and my buddy did Galakras I solo healed it and he solo tanked it cause I just put my statue down by the NPCs while we went to towers and my statue healed the group while I healed him up top. Easily one of my fav moments.
Absolutely.
Aww yes i loved MoP MW monk, i wish they bring back the stances
Legion killed Mistweaver :/ Hopefully they reconsider uplift for Shadowlands.
@@TheLastOneUsaw the way renewing mist and uplift work is awesome. I like essence font but uplift is just better and might work better with gust of mist
Been loving these videos! Really high quality content
The big issue with monk tanking that scared many people was the seeming lack of big get out of jail cooldowns (like pally bubble, druid savage defence etc), coupled with low max HP. I know in my raid team they were initially skeptical if I would survive progression raiding as a monk. It took the community a long time to understand that (good) monks took a lot less damage than other tanks.
Levelling was broken as, from someone who pursued a monk from level 1 the second MoP went live, between being able to tank roll dungeons and then every 10 levels (plus daily) getting the bonus EXP buff that came with our training quests, we were easily able to rush up to higher levels.
I think the bigger issues were simply that it was different, and people struggled to deal with different.
I started playing monk in MoP and I've been playing since. Never looked back.
Same
Awesome and comprehensive video man, as always!
Thank you for video, really enjoyed strolling down memory lane. Having played multiple classes from Vanilla to now, I can say without a doubt that Monk is my favorite and plays a large factor into why I consider MoP to be my favorite expansion. The class just so unique and diverse, had a blast with Windwalker throughout it's entirety despite the constant development; miss it very much.
Bit of fun facts from that awesome era:
-Windwalker had undergone 3 Mastery's throughout MoP's duration, landing on Bottled Fury v2 with Tigereye Brew causing 3% per stack, 30% at 10 (6% per stack, 60% at 10 during WoD)
-The T15 Windwalker 4pc bonus seen in the video was previously the specs Mastery, Bottled Fury v1 - it was swapped when Monks were using the Rune of Re-Origination trinket to snapshot Mastery to gain large amounts of damage during the Tigereye Brew window; previously the set bonus gave a chance to gain an additional stack of Tigereye Brew
-Dematerialize - when the Monk was stunned they would go immune for X seconds - made Mistweaver extremely broken in PvP (which is ironicly has been their bane since)
-Fists of Fury used to stun, multiple times in fact should the opposition choose to try and break the stun to run (although it didn't do the crazy damage like it does til WoD)
-Touch of Karma used to reflect 100% of the Windwalkers health of the damage taken, which you can imagine the large outcry from the playerbase that wanted to just burst everything but instead were punished for not heeding the mechanic/animation
-Paralysis had a positional requirement, becoming a longer CC if used behind the target
-Windwalker Blackout Kick used to heal themselves when attacking an enemy from the front, and apply a DoT when attacking from behind (or glyphed)
-Jab was the Monks primary generator and would change icons and sound effects depending on the main hand weapon of the Monk
-The Swift Reflexes passive would cause the Monk to perform a low damage attack upon parrying an attack, which caused a bit of problems with achievement runs such as Iron Dwarf Medium Rare
-Speaking of passives, Windwalker had a Passive called Sparring which stacked up to 3 times to increase Parry chance by 15% (5 per stack), along with a Glyph that had a chance to deflect magic for the same stack amount
-Brewmaster Black Ox Statue would provide an absorption shield depending on the amount of damage the Brewmaster had dealt, allowing the user to shield every party member (before it was turned into Stoneclaw Totem)
-Dizzying Haze granted a 3% chance for the enemy to miss their attacks and secondary way to apply Keg Smash's debuff (for Breath of Fire)
-Monk had a buff called "Legacy of the Emperor" which increased stats, while Windwalker had an additional buff "Legacy of the White Tiger" that increased Crit
-Provoke can/could be used negatively to troll, like speeding up Armsmaster Harlan's Whirlwind/Bladestorm, causing Thok and Garalon to run faster to their Focused Target, etc.
-Expel Harm became a spammable heal should the Brewmaster fall below 35%, making a really geared/good one almost unkillable to the high stacks of Thok
-Tiger Strikes passive used to cause Monks have faster auto attacks and 4 additional auto attacks per stack - there's irony to had here as after it's change and removal Windwalker has been faced with the problem of Fists of Fury causing less auto attacks which makes the spec benefit less from Auto Attack related procs ala Trinkets, Corruptions, etc
Nice vid! I recently started playing wow and after trying a few classes I settled on windwalker monk. The nice movement and interesting rotation is really fun.
I had 2 MW monks in MoP AND I LOVE IT .it was okay in WOD. Was worse in legion and now in BFA
MOP was the last time the mechanics in WoW worked well and felt effectively designed... from then on it was downhill, especially since they depowered the monks to make them less effective in each of their three possible party positions.
I miss mistweaver so much, I really wanted this class to come back in Shadowlands. Instead there's multiple useless long cooldowns and further pushing the shitty Legion/BfA Mistweaver. Blizz really should bring this back, now it seems to be mechanically worse in every way
I liked the arena style of Legion mws, they played like panda/wod mws but it was only available in instanced pvpv
Did nobody play warcraft 3? There was a brewmaster panda side campaign. Monks weren't brought over from diablo, they were already lore.
It was a single character called brewmaster tho. That’s like arguing that “tinker class was always in Warcraft, because there was a character called tinker in wc3”
This and the xpack series is your best content yet! Amazing work.
I never had as much fun with my classes as with my mistweaver monk and survival hunter in mop. I really miss these days.
Monk was a class that was good even without knowledge and micro in mop, but when you actually learned and mastered the playstyle it was absolutely insane. The complexity of mop monk was something that I doubt blizzard can ever do again.
I'm glad you're giving MoP more love. My favorite expansion by far, the pvp was peak performance by Blizz.
Not only is Mists one of my favorite expansions, but monks are one of my favorite classes. Even today!
StormEarth&Fire wasn't a CD in MoP, it was changed to a cleave CD in legion.
In MoP it didn't have a CD and you would cast them on mobs with a max of 2. It was a part of how you would cleave and AOE. SEF was a huge part of WW game play and was considered really difficult to use effectively and took a lot of planing and forethought.
I used to played a WW back in ToT and SoO and it was amazingly deep and complex and that was partly why I loved it.🔥🔥🔥
The way belts work in martial arts is essentially your mastery over different forms, and knowledge as well as discipline. From the dojos I was taught at, it went from White->Orange-->Yellow-->Green-->Red--->Brown--->Black
You'd get stripes on your belt based on your progress of your belt, and after you'd get 4 stripes, you'd take a test to move onto the next belt. The test would usually be memorization of forms, holding stances, sparing with your peers of the same belt, or sometimes your seafoo depending on the class (seafoo = teacher).
Glad you made this video. I liked all the others very much :)
WillE, SignsOfKelani (Salami) and Nobbel87. These people revive my will to play this game, whenever I get a burn-out.
Please keep up what you're doing mate, you don't have to keep up the quick pace of content, so you don't get a burn-out from working aswell.
I respect you even more, for not putting click-bait titles and making half of your video an ad for a VPN. Unlike some other youtubers I know... *cough**Bellular**cough* ;)
Monk was FUN. Pvp was fun too. One of the best 1v1 classes. Run away and insta heal orbs until cool downs are back up then BURST
My best memory of monks in MoP was a duel between my MW and my friend's Frost DK. We dueled for a solid 10 minutes rotating cooldowns until eventually he got a few lucky crits before my Xuen came back up. An on looker asked me for tips afterwards and was shocked to learn I was specced as a healer.
Damn I miss playing my Monk in mist of pandaria good times
Played Monk as mistweaver, I was meleeing to heal the group. I loved that spec.
This was a really good one love this series
I loved WW from ToT 5.2 onward. Arena was so much fun, but my best memories were actually as FC in RBGs, was so underrated with stacking sta/res, your port, great mobility and cc, etc. As human I would run 1-2 heroic thunderforged trinkets from ToT, crazy dmg, unfortunately my dps was usually bottom half on single target bosses, still a ton of fun though.
I really enjoy this part 20:47, 15:40, 14:09, 2:45, also just the world floating around from 18:00 to 20:00 and other parts of the video.
Maining Monk since day 1 MOP and haven’t stopped since then
Mistweaving in MoP was an absolute blast, the most fun I've had playing a healer. Miss the days
I went from a Ret paladin in Dragon Soul to an Undead WW Monk at MOP release, I loved it :D
Was hyped as hell for monk before MoP released. Made a Monk with my buddy and we leveled together- he a Brewmaster, me a Windwalker. Always loved this class.
I leveled a troll and a human monk. It’s definitely one of my favorite classes, easy top 3, I like it a lot. I feel in love with mist and had a ball tanking my first raid, ww I just used open world, I like bfa version more. I agree that this class did and still does require a decent player; I am by no means “good” at wow, but I can tell when I’m doing well and doing bad on my monk. I’m can auto pilot heal with almost the other heals spec, can’t with mist
The Monk was awesome and has been awesome since day one. It almost instantly became one of my favorite classes.
MoP is my favorite expansion
Aww i remember my panda sits on a big stone while sipping mana tea in the heat of a twin peaks flag battle XD
Monk’s been my main and favorite class since MoP (Mained a Paladin in Cata). MW was (and still is) my favorite healer. Same goes for BrM and it’s fast paced juggling of buffs. I loved how different and unique it was to all of the other healers. Legion was terrible for both BrM and MW since they removed what made them unique and fun. MW was made to be the same as a regular healing/Resto Druid and BrM was made to be similar to any other tank. Also, removing Chi from Brewmaster and Mistweaver was one of the worst decisions they made for the class in my opinion. It completely gutted the flow and choice of the specs. Some viewed it as liberating, but it ruined the aspect of choice between abilities and the overall feel of the specs. I had a similar issue with Paladin, but I near they are getting Holy Power back in Shadowlands. Here’s to hoping that they do the same for Monk.
Enlightement (the daily buff) actually gave 10% or around that bonus XP and chagned to Mastery at 80 or 85.
Monk is my favorite class and it's not even close. Every spec if so fun and unique
The Steak-Hot Dog point, as a person that loved Demonology back in mop, hit very close to home
Played since TBC and I've Never had so much fun playing than with a Monk Brewmaster during MoP
Gonna be honest, monk is really fun tp play and it has the zen flight which is badass.
I Loooooooved the monk, it was the first time I dedicated myself to an alt instead of my rogue. Every spec was so much fun to play.
had a blast playing MoP monk.
I love monk thank you for making this video
monk was cool reminded me of blood DK when wotlk came out. loved the xmogs for monk, had mine looking like the TBC rogue set
Was one of the classes i enjoyed most ( from vanilla )
Then demon hunter was fun too ! There was way much hype for death knight tho dunno why
Hal probably cause the first new class
@@maisonrivers3656 yeah and arthas brought back more memories than illidan apparently :p
I leveled to 60 on my night elf monk during MoP and then used my level 90 character boost to get to level cap after pre-orders for WoD became available (that way, I could get maximum level leatherworking and skinning just in time for the new expansion). I enjoyed my monk and still do even though it has changed quite a bit since MoP.
Watching the footage of that Thok fight really makes me miss the massive numbers we saw in Mists...
Played a monk during legion and BFA. Such a fun class
Are you looking back at the major changes classes went through from Classic to TBC?
Yes, it was good. All three specs were unique. Mistweaver tanking was a fun aspect, too.
MoP other than being killed by memes was such a lighting in a bottle moment of class design, story telling and just well everything that is a shame it didn't get the love it deserved
This video made me miss MoP raids
I loved the WoD WW Monk. Chi Explosion was great
The best
If the Saberon were released in MoP as the new Horde race (albeit with unique non-worgen animations), I bet you they'd have a high player count
The months before MoP dropped, I did the "Invite a Friend" thing and had I thnk 80 levels saved up. So once my Pandaren got off of the Turtle, I went to orgrimmar and was level 80 in about 10 minutes :)
Loved the Monk, loved the Pandaren, loved MoP. Was the last expansion I really played, as WoD just took WoW out back and put it down. Didn't come back till Classic was release.
Im glad i stuck on through legion, amazing xpac
Most fun class and truly immersive if you enjoy rolling around the world it is the best class for you
Everyone slept on the Monk in MoP, but I was loving it! My only regret is I enjoyed WW so much, I never got around to playing the other specs during this time, as well as other Classes that are now pretty legendary in MoP like Destro and Ele; I have since gone back and played these specs... but for Monks I just have too much fun on WW to give the other specs a go.
For those that are curious about pvp Xuen made a ww movie back in mop that is still pure gold
Monks never interested me before the recent 100% XP boost, and I thought It would have been cool to level a class because I don't really see purpose of doing BFA endgame content anymore. So I started a gnome monk few nights ago and let me tell you, I had a blast because I wasn't even aware of me staying up all night leveling, but I just did naturally. Time flies when you are having fun, on top of that monks get 50% exp boost which made it even faster. What really pulled me in is the rotation and the mastery that gives % dmg if you don't repeat the same ability in a row, and you can only use whirling dragon punch when your fist of fury and risen sun kick is on cd, it is so rewarding to press it for some reason. :D Overall It really got me out of the boring aspects of BFA. Next Is DK, I haven't played a dk before ever.
i feel like DK is all cool and games at first but then it gets really boring, really fast when you discover their rotations. I’m rolling a monk just rn, lvl25, it’s fun as hell so far!
I think monk design was spot on. I did not really like the healer spec but I dont really play healers in general. I loved monk tanking, you could really tell if a monk tank was a skilled player or just a random button smasher. And WW monk was really fun in pvp, countering the crap out of those boring frostmages and feral druids :D
Watchin in 2024 in prep for Mop Classic 😊
this made me remember windwalker mastery being changed every patch. combobreaker procs ,chi / energy spheres, faster tigereye brew generation come to mind immediately. still loved it and really looking forward to being able to choose between onehander and staff/polearm again.
if i remember correctly, they gave 1handed +damage and 2handed +attack speed (also you only had to get your hands on one weapon that way, which would be really good with the bfa droprates of weapons)
whilst being at it, do you remember not being allowed to use heirlooms in the pandaren starting zone because you had to send it per mail, but those characters arent part of the factions
I think when he said they come out with good gear that doesn’t matter due to heirlooms, they were referring to the fact that everyone had access to better gear by the time you leave thanks to heirlooms. But yes, pandaren didn’t and still don’t have mailboxes which stopped them
this explains why i couldn't find the video this morning
During pandaria it was fun, the zones were designed with them in mind. The zen travel thing made getting around so fast.
I really wish they were to go back and give Monks stances back, mainly the MW as i loved the proper fistweaving playstyle. Ive been playing monk since WOD and i really loved the stances.
I Mist weaver during mop . It was so fun I switched from my priest that I had been playing since tbc. Extra mobile with damage to healing conversion. It was so good. Then in legion, instead of leaning into the fantasy they completely remade the class in to just another healer and stripped e everything that made it fun. Sure it made it easier to pick up for new people but it wasn't as fun.
Im just glad they kept the classic version of it for arenas
Every martial art takes progression different way, but general idea is that you start with white belt and then, yellow - > green - > blue - > red -> black -> different master levels at black
I remember ww monk was pretty fun when mop just came out. That healing u could put on the ground was op for pvp :) but was only expansion I liked the monk. After mop I never played wow again only vanilla/TBC p-servers.
Take me back to Mists. Miss that period of WoW. PVP was the best it ever was. :(
I played Monk in MoP. Never had so much in WoW in my 14years playing this game :)
I’ll be honest. I only had a monk for my Herald of the Titan toon. Completely OP even without any tier gear and it was good for just about any role though I played as healer. I really got into researching BiS gear for it, since all the guides at the time did not have an update for monk. It was fun, but it also took up my monk slot, and I already had a bunch of alts that were raid ready.
Plus I’ve never leveled her beyond 80 due to the fact idk if someone wants to make another Herald of the Titans run. I’ve done it 3 times so far, in addition to my first time, so it honestly makes sense to keep her there.
Monk in MoP was the most powerful class ever in WoW (yes stronger than DK at WotLK launch), but only in the hands of an exceptional player. The best player I every played with could do unbelievable things on his monk.
BM was the best tank towards the end of the expansion due to more mastery the better stagger was. All top guilds ram double BM or DM/BDK. Monk is still my favorite class, I think it’s fun, and flashy
The initial version of the monk class quest that gives the buff enlightenment use to be much much better. It use to give you 50% increased EXP gain for 1 hour instead of mastery, and the duration could stack. I remember only leveling my monk on the weekends and simply flying through levels with heirlooms and a 8 hour 50% exp buff. However, if you died, the buff was removed. Pretty harrowing to risk wiping in dungeons groups as a tank.
I main a monk in retail since I joined in 2015. I used to be a hunter main in private servers, but hunters were such no brain classes and I hated their pets. I experimented with druid for a bit, but I didn't like the feel of it. I wanted to have a class that was like a druid, had similar specs, wasn't all about nature and trees. I liked the aesthetic and feel of the monk, so I went with that when making my first character on retail. I have so much gametime poured into my female blood elf monk, I love her. :D
She's Sunbursts-DraenorEU. :)
Mistweaver healing was tons of funs. spheres were overpowered but spam clicking soothing mist for double healing was the best
I main a monk. Been playing it since middle of Legion. I love it! Every time I try to play something else (as a main), I get bored and go back to the monk.
You missed out big time :/
WW monk was the most fun i had in wow pvp ( on par with frost mage in TBC ), ppl were sayng they were squishy lol, they didn't knew how to use it's mobility, once you did with teleports, healing orbs etc was a killing machine, it had very huge skill cealing, oh and the MW specc in MOP was hands down the best and most fun healing gameplay i ever played in wow
I was a MW monk main back in MoP, with a resto druid alt. While MW surely took more effort to play well than resto, never running out of mana, and being able to fistweave was infinitely more fun. Ring of Peace was actually quite a good external damage mitigation tool for tanks! Just let the tank round up a big old deathball, RoP, then roll in for RJW and fistweaving to help mow down the ball. The biggest downside to MW healing was the lack of control you had over your heals. Renewing mist's "smart" heal wasn't all that smart and constantly reminding people to step on your balls (mastery) was awkward.
That footage of a mistweaver playing a battle ground is from a private server, right?
I might even know which one exactly, since the title is bugged there and you could have it forever if you perform some shenanigans, and the chat has a custom channel. Also the monk and the mage from the clip both have the swift spectral tiger which is pretty popular with pserver players since it's a BoE, looks great and usually is affordable by anyone unlike the Retail version of it.
Awesome content btw, I'm enjoying every single video I watch. Even tho I know pretty much everything about the game since I've been playing it for nearly 15 years.
Thanks for your hard work, I appreciate the effort.
Love my Mistweaver. Hope we get Chi back in Shadowlands :-)
Could you imagine a raid with just each monk specs
I liked monk and loved his healing spec in pvp, if shadowland goes out i wanna test them again
I remember playing all the specs, they were all so much different than other classes and so much fun! Everything they have done to the class pulled me away from this class being my main, the gross simplification of the class disgusts me!
I miss leaving orbs for my compatriots on the ground, fist-weaving through LFR and LFG was unique and an amazing idea!
It was good but not over powered which was a nice surprise. The Brewmaster may have been a little too strong at first but it got figured out
That face guard is making much more sense now huh lol
You should remake the video now that Classic MoP is on the horison , you could include such things as loggs from back in the day comparing the 3 diffrent specs to their counterparts in the 3 diffrent tiers.
You could draw examples from AoE fights, ST fights, Cleave fights and showcase what each spec was good at.
You could for example show world farming, elite soloing . (For example WW and BM were godlike at AoE farming because of their CC/burst dmg and MW could AoE farm aswell very safely due to alot of HoTs and decent dmg)
You could showcase how well monks were doing in BGs and Arena , i belive theres still rank information to be found from MoP days.
Would love to see a more detailed video hyping up Classic MOP!