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I’ll be honest, I bought into the 4k hype for my youtube channel. But from the first video I made with my new camera, I realized that the lighting still sucked, the audio still sucked and the colors were still off. It took another 6 months experimenting with lighting and positioning the mic to really get the quality I was looking for. Lesson learned; shooting in 4k isn’t going to solve any of your video problems, it’s just going to make them higher resolution. For anyone who genuinely wants to up their production quality, examine your current lighting and audio first. It’s a lot cheaper (though admittedly less exciting) than buying a new camera.
It's just the same with 4K as it was with HD. I can still remember everything digging into FHD when it was new, only to find out their computer was hardly able to process the data, their disks ran out of space in no-time and exporting took ages. 'But HD...' I always tried to get people to see that most video's on the internet are hardly worth a look at and more pixels won't change that. Until June 2017 or so, I used a 4:3 PAL videocamera. Yes, that was 720x576, but it was sufficient for me and I never pretended to be such a good video-idiot ;) Since June 2017, I made the step into the Full HD era and it's something I still have to get used to: if it isn't for the fact my footage is now recorded on far more convenient SD-cards (where the camera before that used miniDV tape), it is for the increased resolution: if I take a shot from a sign or so, I tend to zoom so much that I can clearly read the sign in the viewfinder (Which is not a full HD viewfinder, but only has 450.000 pixels or so). In reality, the sign can be read from great distance when viewed on a FHD computer screen. So far, FHD is good enough for me and with the amount of control I like over the camera (rings that mechanically alter focus, zoom and iris), 4K is also too expensive for me. Pair it with a computer that nearly dies when I edit 4K (I did it once to show a map with a route being drawn on it while moving a FHD-frame over the 4K footage to show where the route was going) and you understand why I also won't be switching ;)
Good lighting and audio is more expensive then any little camera that i can think of! But you are right in one thing that 4k maybe will not solve much problems for you guys that do small UA-cam videos, but it does give you so much flexibility at very cheap price and it is going to save your butt if you are actually making living from making videos! And guys please stop advocate for 1080p anymore! It is 2019 and 90 % TVs sold in past 4 years been 4k. And even those who does not have 4k TV or monitor are going to benefit in many ways of 4k resolution! My 2 year old Asus that costed me 300$ new can edit 4k and it is very low end notebook with i3 processor and no dedicated GPU!
1080 seems good to go, I know higher resolutions are the future but the higher resolutions take hell lot of time to edit and render not to forget the storage time and costs.
@@LordArioh Very true. It's easy to obsess about image quality, I do it myself, but if something is interesting the viewer adapts to the visuals very quickly. In fact if you watched interesting VHS footage accompanied by the best digital sound, people would walk away thinking how great the video was. Truth is very few people sit a few inches from an 8mp/4k screen obsessing about IQ. Mostly it's laptops and phones where smart editing is the hook, not cinema quality.
@@yrussq That's a great point! There are definite financial benefits to sitting on the sidelines until figuring out what you are buying and why as prices drop.
I use m50 , sl2 and Gh3 ... I kept thinking I need 4k , I picked up Gh4 off eBay... after 5 months I ended up shooting Gh4 in HD more and sometime I prefer Gh3 more lol
I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out if my Mavic had issues and I needed to send it back. The cause of my stress? 4K footage of the grass and trees in my front yard played back on my 2560x1440 display iMac. What I've been seeing is EXACTLY what you showed at 3:40 into you video!!!! Your my hero. Superbly helpful video! Thank You!
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Sometimes you don't need a new computer (if it's a desktop, not a laptop, of course). I recently replaced my old nVidia 460 with the nVidia 1080 graphics card and I now see the difference.
I played back the 4K images of today's flight on my Android smartphone. The images were very clean, crispy, and sharp. I am still tweaking and learning the Mavic Pro since it is new.
Thanks for all the info, but it is now Sept 2021 and I will still stick with 1080 HD 60 fps or similar size resolutions for my work. Maybe in the future I will do more investigations on this topic. take care.
Great info that you put together in this video, I appreciate it. At the moment I try to record in 4K whenever I can since in post it's more flexible when it comes to the things you mentioned like fake panning, digital zoom, crop, etc. and export the final product in 1080 for better file management.
I've been using HD 1080p for basic interview sets or any recordings that require longer recording times because its easier to render the video files in post. In regards to 4k, I'll use it for more of a action, or fast paced type of video but will record only up to 10-15 secs for each clip to help with rendering. So far it has worked for me. But I can honestly say I have been shooting more HD lately. Great video bro!
This was the best informative/explanation I've seen about the video resolution. This is a question of no answer, but pure common sense. Congrats to you buddy. So easy to like your videos.
Great video. one note, if your paying that much for hard disk space you need to shop around. I picked up all my western digital 5tb drives 2 years ago for less than $120/drive. and actually final price was cheaper than that. picked up the external enclosures with 5tb drives. got 6 of them. raided them in stripe to make one massive 30 tb array, that pushes a actual throughout of 700megabytes per second (amazing for editing). here's the catch. installed all those drives internally. then took the enclosures and listed the empty enclosures one by one on eBay starting bid at $6. each enclosure sold for about $70!!! so each $120 drive minus 70 = $50/drive..... so 30tb of storage $300. brand new western digital. no special deals for the $120. walmarts regular price at the time. CHEERS!
KmanAuto I agree. I don’t worry too much about disk space. Same reason I find most of this cloud business is useless for saving space. It is helpful for moving things around or looking at a certain library of music or video etc. But I wouldn’t spend a whole lotta money buying cloud space. When Hard drives are soooo cheap as you have shown.
@@LUTYTV and that's why you have a backup (presumably in a 3-2-1 system: You have 3 different destinations where the same file resides, on 2 different media, one of them in another location/always with you. You can even take it one step further by having one of those backups 'tailing' the other: should a back-up get infected by something, you can always revert to your last backup. My back-up strategy is not the best (one big drive with everything I also have on the disks in my computer, always on top of the computer) but at least I have a backup and not a 'backup' (read: 'Please help me! My back-up disk crashed and now I lost everything!' 'Well, buy a new one and make a new backup?' 'You don't get it! My back-up disk contained everything I don't have on my computer!' 'Ah... so it's not a backup then...' '........' ) If you buy space at Google, I can think you can be sure they will have reduncancy in place. But I will never ever trust my files to Google for that sort of things. My files are my files, and they don't have anything to do with that. It also won't be the first time a big commercial company changes it's terms and conditions overnight and removes everything, or makes it invisible as long as you don't pay more.
Hey Ed, I stumbled across this video under recommended and I'm so glad I did. You have a very unique (and detailed) way of explaining things that most don't seem to talk about or simply overlook. Subscribed, and looking forward to more of your work!
That's because you lose detail with the Bayer pattern. A 4K bayer would be closer to a 1440P image than real RGB 4K, which you'd need a higher resolution camera to get.
I really like how you really got in depth comparing 4K and 1080p ..sadly many people don't understand the two when it comes to detail but HANDS DOWN! nice video .
I generally always shoot UHD 25p and deliver FHD. There are really so few benefits to delivering 4K or UHD currently. It's nice from a techy / geeky point of view but little more. As you say though, FHD framegrabs from UHD are superb.
A sensible review. My latest camera is a Sony FDR AX700 and by using the HLG settings I get 1080@60 that looks very good. Very careful post sharpening bridges some the gap to 4k but at 1080 size. The main difference after careful post work is in the texture, 4k with its higher resolution shows fine texture detail better and that effects some outdoor shots where you see the detail in trees and similar. As far as future proofing with 4k, I don't believe it matters as 4k@60 is available now and the sensors and memory cards will only get better. Thanks for the review.
Great video. I've found that most people cant see the difference between 1080 and 4k. And Its easy to trick people just by slightly adjusting the saturation and contrast. Most people thru no fault of their own believe that a brighter more vibrant image automatically means it was shot in a higher resolution. For me and my outdoor videos... 1080p does the job for now.
the info and opinions are appreciated - I'm not big on the tech side so it's nice to hear your take on it - 4K sounds awesome in the store but there's always more to it
Another thing to add is fps, you can shoot 1080p at 60fps now and display it on youtube, i prefer 60fps videos over 25fps 4k clips, especially if its a moving scene.
This largely depends on what kind of look the person is going for, for instance, most cinematic videos are done in 24fps, while some vloggers might use 30fps and high action sports might use 60fps. The frame-rate can actually contribute to the overall experience of the video and if the 4K footage is more of a nature cinematic set of clips, then 24-25fps can help aid to that experience.
We shoot and export in 4k on our other channel because of personal tastes and future proofing. I like this video and agree with the pros and cons. As far as editing, my PC has it's good days and it's bad days. But after upgrading the hardware a little, the issues are not as bad. And as far a storage, I delete the raw footage after I upload the final video.
Hey Ed, I love the reactions I get from people who see the 4k vids from my Mavic Pros on my 65" 4k TV. I recently had a friend visit and wanted to see what I've been doing with my Mavics. She's a professional. She has a pair of DJI Inspires. Until that day she only ever saw her footage on a PC. She was blown away.
I purchased a Sony AX33 camcorder specifically to shoot in 4K. My SD cards are the fastest and all are either 32 or 64 (will add a 128). I purchased a custom made desktop with the highest level i7 CPU ( at the time) and an NVidia GPU and up'd the RAM to 32 GB. I have at least 10 TB worth of external HDs. BUT, I find I still primarily shoot in HD and post my recent footage to UA-cam In HD. Its the processing time and the amount of storage that has kept me from shooting more. The local computer shop has offered to get me external RAID storage. I may have to go in that direction. Spring 2017 events are coming up and I may chose to add more 4K but the quality of HD still produces good editable/viewable footage.
If you notice I said "at the time". I don't disagree that Ryzen 7 is excellent, but it wasn't around then. So I don't know why you need to be so nasty? But I am not about to buy a new computer nor gut the one I have.
I went to his channel and it appears anonymous. I don't get into spates online, because it's not worth my time nor aggravation. Good work I complement, the rest I disregard. but thank you.
A Proxy is a low res lesser quality version of your footage, that's in a codec your computer can decipher more easily. So when you import footage into Premiere Pro if that's what you're using, you can choose to create proxies of your files so that you edit lowres files. Then when it comes time to export, you just switch out the lowres files for your original footage. Bam! It's great if your computer struggles with 4K or even 1080p H.264 footage.
I shoot in 4K, but down res to 1080, I do believe the end result still looks better than regular 1080. Great video, thank you for all the hard work ! 🌁
All things considered... content and (good audio) is STILL king. I'll stick with 1080 until my clients pay for my upgrade. This goes for drones and cameras. I've spent hours watching youtube videos and debating with myself instead of working on a changing something harder than my camera gear... my cinema style and craft as a whole. The gear is the easy(ier) change. Good vid man!
Are most people blind ? Maybe there is a large geriatric population in your country because its really hard to understand how someone cant tell the difference.
I agree with your point of view, I don't have enough storage to keep my video files and don't want to invest more money to upgrade my computer/laptop for editing. For all videos I use 1080P.
I have the mavic and I use 2.7k for the very reasons you pointed out... great video by the way ..... also at the movies I only go to a cinema with 4k projectors... to my eyes the difference is incredible
Nicely presented video. For me the main reason for shooting 4K is, as you mentioned, allowing me to crop or dynamic zoom in post editing. When storage starts becoming an issue, is when you render it to something like Prores. then your files become huge.
I built a really solid desktop (i7, 32Gb Ram, $400 Nvidia Graphics card) about 5 years ago. I was using my laptop to process 1080 video and the rending time was 12-16 hours for a 2 hour video. The desktop did it in 2 hours(1:1). Ive been looking at doing 4k now that the price of some camcorders/dslr have dropped (I do have a GoPro hero 4 black-Sensor is so small). Basically I get to upgrade again
you'd see difference in fine details being sharper. plus this video doesn't have a 4k option(at least on my end it only went to 1440p) so you aren't watching it in the max bandwidth youtube has.
Rendered my first 4K video today on Vegas Pro 14 with an i7 6700K @ 4.5Ghz / 8GB DDR4 @ 3000Mhz / GTX 1080 and my computer struggled to provide preview footage no matter what setting it was on...definitely made me reconsider shooting at 21:9 or 16:9 FHD for my next video despite the increased detail clarity from 4K. I'd rather have a well composed video from good editing work with smooth previewing for increased editing accuracy than a sharper looking less perfected video composition due to limited or nearly nonexistent video previewing.
No. yes, not really, and only if you have shit internet. 4K is important to me to preserve more detail. the room is fine I just throw away useless clips. if you use proxies it's very easy to edit. and I only get max 3Mbps upload and 4K uploads don't take too long.
Hi Ed I was having the same problem, the more cuts and edits I made the slower the video would get. Adding sound created more slowness and then slow mo or speeding up created even more stuttering and jerkiness during editing. I had good hardware but the 4K was slow as crap on Premiere Pro. As someone else mentioned I found the solution which is the Proxy option. It eliminates all the problems. Yes the computer takes a bit of time at the start to make the lower res proxy files but after that you can edit with the low res 1080P clones and they play the video smoothly. The final product is made using the original 4K footage so it looks the same when your finished. You can toggle between the two while working if you ever need to. Check out this video. A guy named Svavar and Robbyg on Mavicpilots bought the solution to my attention. helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/how-to/proxy-media.html Peace !!
Thank you so much for this video explaining pros and cons without bashing on one or the other. I think it really does depend on the aim of your project as well as the quality of you other gear. You just helped me decide between the Olympus E-M10 Mark II and mark III as I really thought I wanted the III's 4K ability but my computer wouldn't even be able to process 4k videos anyway (let alone edit it).
Good to hear something sensible in this area, well shot and carefully post produced 1080 looks very close to 4k, the main difference if you use a large enough monitor is in the texture when you shoot UHD 4k. 2.5/2.7k can be shot at 60 frames which really improves horizontal panning where 24, 25 and 30 frame are hard to get good results unless you pan very slowly.
Ed, thanks for the great explanation. With my Mavic Air, I shoot in 1080 @ 60fps as any less fps gives me too much jitter due to camera movement. I thought my videos were nice and smooth but sometimes too clear and too real so your comment to adjust sharpness to a - value is exactly what I was missing so thank you for this video.
This guy has got HD and FHD mixed up, HD is 720p, whilst 1080p is really FHD, not HD. If you're going to use a chart and give a lesson, research what resolution is first.
There is also another input to take into account when deciding to shoot 1080 or 4K: the max framerate. Most drones allow only 24-25 or 30 fps, whixh, I believe, results in really jerky footage, unless you are shooting landscape while moving slowly. 50 fps allows you to shoot moving scenes really smoothly. Another hint if you want to reduce jerks is to use and ND filter in order to allow longer exposure (1/50 second)
Sometimes the stuttering is caused by the video codec. Computers have a hard time decompressing the video as you scrub or play it. A good way to test if this is the case would be to convert the video to a lossless compression format and then edit with it. (the hugest downside to this is the size of the video files, but you will usually find they scrub and play really nicely).
@@EdRickerVlogs yes, there is that, but even the industry hasn't really pushed entirely for the adoption of 4k filming. While big-budget blockbuster films have moved to filming in 4k and 8k, the indie scene still very much embraces 1080p and 2k. Television, especially broadcast television, still leans heavily towards 1080p, with animation, especially Anime, still favoring 720p. Live sports still opt for 1080p as well, largely because 1080p cameras still have better bit rates at more affordable costs. My working theory falls into two categories. One is that the adoption of HD as the standard is still actually really young, only really being THE standard for a little over a decade, and even less with television. People already put a lot of time, money, and effort into updating to HD. It's too soon to ask the mass population to adopt yet a new standard after JUST making a commitment to HD. And this flows into my second point -- people just don't care. The average consumer still supports standard definition. DVD sales made up over 70% of home video market sales last year. DVD provides what the average consumer considers video quality that's good enough. Some networks have opted to release their television shows on DVD but not Blu-Ray (look at The Orville). And to build on this, 1080p just looks good enough. I find that freelancers and amateur filmmakers are the ones who care the most about whether 1080p is good enough or if they should shoot 4k. And I think that's because we think that's what a professional would do, use the best tech available. But that's not really the case, and we're all kind of overthinking it.
Ed, this was a really useful and informative video. It has provided me with many answers to questions I was asking myself about his very subject. It has cleared up a lot for me.
It really depends on what I'm shooting and what I'm shooting with. I'm I'm on a commercial I tend to shoot 8k on either a red or an alexa. If it's just a personal project I tend to shoot in uhd on a sony or gh5. Documentaries I tend to film uhd on a c300. It's all down to personal preference really and what your filming for. Most companies now prefer shooting hdr instead of 4k as it keeps the nice detail but is easier to edit.
Great video...you are expressing what many video makers should be doing, but they get so caught up in the hype of bigger is better and that is not always the way to go. Good on ya.
Well said. It’s about a year on since I started shooting in 4K (or actually UHD) on a Lumix GH4. I’d resisted it for a while as I didn’t have any display that could use it, but I have one now. One of the difficulties with my camera in 4K mode is focus accuracy, particularly if the subject has fairly soft contrast. Almost essential to use ‘focus lock’ before shooting a clip, otherwise the odd frame can be out of focus, which undermines the idea of using 4k at all! No doubt more upmarket cameras can cope with it. At present, I upload 4k to my UA-cam channel, and downscale to HD for creating home made Blu Ray output. While almost all new domestic displays are 4k, they are often too small/too far to be beneficial, and the other issue is the transmission speed needed to support it.
Dear Ed.. tQ for your very very good & interesting review of 4K vs 1080p. i definitely am not a professional video maker, all videos are watched on the PC/lappy screen, maybe forever, from your kind review, my happy choosing would be 1080p/120fps .. i love slomos. thx a million Ed.
Thanks for the informative video on this topic. I'm the classic example of what you addressed in this video. Received the Mavic Pro as a gift from my awesome wife and I started shooting videos in 4K only to quickly realize that my current computer can't handle 4K at all...stuttering and crashing so much that I can't enjoy any of the raw footage, let alone do any editing. So, now after watching your video, I will try the 2.7 and 1080 to see what works best with my current setup. Headed up to the Sierra's to do some skiing and will have lots of time to play around with the Mavic to test out different settings. Moving forward, however, I do see a new computer in my future so I can reap the full benefits of the Mavic's 4K capabilities.
Both have there place. I think people are used to bad 1080p like what UA-cam delivers and also alot of DSLR's. If you ever have used a good cinema camera, the 1080p out of it looks stunning, not far off from 4k at all surprisingly. I used to shoot everything in 4k with my Panasonic G85 because of the bad 1080p, but since I have had my GH5s I have used the 1080p in a lot of projects because it looks great. Saved me a lot of time for smaller projects as well as I don't need proxies. One thing I would note, if you are using 1080p is to upscale to 4k when delivering to youtube. As the compression is massive!
Very Well done, this video is great for those of us trying to navigate the hardline of an 80D or a Sony RXv. You wouldn't think the two cameras would ever be compared to each other, forget having to decide between them, but for start up youtubers its a very real problem. Sony for the 4k - High FPS or Cannon stuck in HD but a much richer and diverse image.
You just explained (and solved) 90% of my video editing and storage issues. Yes, I was thinking Premiere Pro and a many of other software were the problem. Operator Error! Thank you for taking the time to explain. This is also related to the DJI Osmo Mobile stabilization issue you referenced.
thanks for the video, i am a novice when it comes to the drone world. i just purchased mavic pro and i have been shooting in 4k, when it came to post i had the exact issues you mentioned, and was questioning everything. thanks again for this informative video, your channel is tops. big thumbs up.
I was going to buy a 4k camera after days/weeks of researching with the thought of; why am I see some stuttering in 4k video in youtube when I did not open it in full screen. Now it make sense, I'm gonna re-thought my options. Thanks for the great info!
Great vid. No shitty audio. No distracting dumb backing track. Great points clearly made. Let's be honest...when we've all fully geared up for 4K...we'll be bombarded with how 8k is the only way. Rinse and repeat.
You are right. I've also made an observation: There are professional filmmakers who have recorded in 4K and put this in UA-cam. But not everyone has a fast Internet, and some of them without jerking only in 720p or max. 1080p, rather than in UHD 2160p, these films often do not look good or blurry. Other than those who still put in 720p or 1080p pure, such as the professional Lutz Dieckmann. The latter have, if filmed well, rather the better result.
Ed thx so much for doing this Video. It really an important topic that is not talked about very much. I have a film streaming on Amazon Prime Video that I shot with a broadcast quality SD camera before HD was invented! Content is king as they say so they picked my film to Stream on Amazon cuz my Editor did such a grest job and its a really good film now. European Surf Journal by me Peter Sterling. Thx again. Also lot of people viewing YT on phones! 5-6inch Screen
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2K @ 24fps is a happy medium for me.
I shoot 1080/60. Love it.
U forgot to put the polling card in your video, at 6:58. But thanks for making the video, I am learning a lot from you.
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I’ll be honest, I bought into the 4k hype for my youtube channel. But from the first video I made with my new camera, I realized that the lighting still sucked, the audio still sucked and the colors were still off. It took another 6 months experimenting with lighting and positioning the mic to really get the quality I was looking for. Lesson learned; shooting in 4k isn’t going to solve any of your video problems, it’s just going to make them higher resolution. For anyone who genuinely wants to up their production quality, examine your current lighting and audio first. It’s a lot cheaper (though admittedly less exciting) than buying a new camera.
Actual content is far more important than resolution, most people watch something based on the content, if it's watchable people will watch it
@@ericolens3 end of the day it's the content that's the most important, you want people to watch be most concerned with the content first
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It's just the same with 4K as it was with HD. I can still remember everything digging into FHD when it was new, only to find out their computer was hardly able to process the data, their disks ran out of space in no-time and exporting took ages. 'But HD...'
I always tried to get people to see that most video's on the internet are hardly worth a look at and more pixels won't change that. Until June 2017 or so, I used a 4:3 PAL videocamera. Yes, that was 720x576, but it was sufficient for me and I never pretended to be such a good video-idiot ;)
Since June 2017, I made the step into the Full HD era and it's something I still have to get used to: if it isn't for the fact my footage is now recorded on far more convenient SD-cards (where the camera before that used miniDV tape), it is for the increased resolution: if I take a shot from a sign or so, I tend to zoom so much that I can clearly read the sign in the viewfinder (Which is not a full HD viewfinder, but only has 450.000 pixels or so).
In reality, the sign can be read from great distance when viewed on a FHD computer screen.
So far, FHD is good enough for me and with the amount of control I like over the camera (rings that mechanically alter focus, zoom and iris), 4K is also too expensive for me.
Pair it with a computer that nearly dies when I edit 4K (I did it once to show a map with a route being drawn on it while moving a FHD-frame over the 4K footage to show where the route was going) and you understand why I also won't be switching ;)
Good lighting and audio is more expensive then any little camera that i can think of! But you are right in one thing that 4k maybe will not solve much problems for you guys that do small UA-cam videos, but it does give you so much flexibility at very cheap price and it is going to save your butt if you are actually making living from making videos! And guys please stop advocate for 1080p anymore! It is 2019 and 90 % TVs sold in past 4 years been 4k. And even those who does not have 4k TV or monitor are going to benefit in many ways of 4k resolution! My 2 year old Asus that costed me 300$ new can edit 4k and it is very low end notebook with i3 processor and no dedicated GPU!
1080 seems good to go, I know higher resolutions are the future but the higher resolutions take hell lot of time to edit and render not to forget the storage time and costs.
Shout out to everyone watching this in 720p or less 🤣🤣
I can't load this video in anything past 240p
Why would ANYONE want to watch this guy in HD anything??! It's just a guy talking! I don't need no stinking HD or 4k for this!
I usually watch YT on my phone, not even full screen so I can read/type comments as I watch. So yeah, even less than 720p
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4k: Future Proof
1080p: Resource Proof
if 4K content is shit, it's not even present proof. if 480p content is good, it's forever proof. true story))
@@LordArioh Very true. It's easy to obsess about image quality, I do it myself, but if something is interesting the viewer adapts to the visuals very quickly. In fact if you watched interesting VHS footage accompanied by the best digital sound, people would walk away thinking how great the video was. Truth is very few people sit a few inches from an 8mp/4k screen obsessing about IQ. Mostly it's laptops and phones where smart editing is the hook, not cinema quality.
4k is not future proof - it's waste of money. Because when the time of 4k would come your gear would be old and outdated.
@@yrussq That's a great point! There are definite financial benefits to sitting on the sidelines until figuring out what you are buying and why as prices drop.
I use m50 , sl2 and Gh3 ... I kept thinking I need 4k , I picked up Gh4 off eBay... after 5 months I ended up shooting Gh4 in HD more and sometime I prefer Gh3 more lol
I'm watching this in 2020 for the first time and it's very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Great info. I was "forced" to shoot in 2.7K and now I am pleased I did. Quality on a UHD-tv is fantastic in 2.7K.
2k is plenty for me. I like saving time while editing
I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out if my Mavic had issues and I needed to send it back. The cause of my stress? 4K footage of the grass and trees in my front yard played back on my 2560x1440 display iMac. What I've been seeing is EXACTLY what you showed at 3:40 into you video!!!! Your my hero. Superbly helpful video! Thank You!
Josh Goldschmidt yep has happened to me also. Called moire
Glad it helped you Josh!
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Sometimes you don't need a new computer (if it's a desktop, not a laptop, of course).
I recently replaced my old nVidia 460 with the nVidia 1080 graphics card and I now see the difference.
I played back the 4K images of today's flight on my Android smartphone. The images were very clean, crispy, and sharp. I am still tweaking and learning the Mavic Pro since it is new.
Thanks for all the info, but it is now Sept 2021 and I will still stick with 1080 HD 60 fps or similar size resolutions for my work. Maybe in the future I will do more investigations on this topic. take care.
Great info that you put together in this video, I appreciate it. At the moment I try to record in 4K whenever I can since in post it's more flexible when it comes to the things you mentioned like fake panning, digital zoom, crop, etc. and export the final product in 1080 for better file management.
You have solved a puzzle in my mind for a long time: 4k vs 1080, etc now makes sense.
I've been using HD 1080p for basic interview sets or any recordings that require longer recording times because its easier to render the video files in post. In regards to 4k, I'll use it for more of a action, or fast paced type of video but will record only up to 10-15 secs for each clip to help with rendering. So far it has worked for me. But I can honestly say I have been shooting more HD lately. Great video bro!
This was the best informative/explanation I've seen about the video resolution. This is a question of no answer, but pure common sense.
Congrats to you buddy. So easy to like your videos.
Great video. one note, if your paying that much for hard disk space you need to shop around. I picked up all my western digital 5tb drives 2 years ago for less than $120/drive. and actually final price was cheaper than that. picked up the external enclosures with 5tb drives. got 6 of them. raided them in stripe to make one massive 30 tb array, that pushes a actual throughout of 700megabytes per second (amazing for editing). here's the catch. installed all those drives internally. then took the enclosures and listed the empty enclosures one by one on eBay starting bid at $6. each enclosure sold for about $70!!! so each $120 drive minus 70 = $50/drive..... so 30tb of storage $300. brand new western digital. no special deals for the $120. walmarts regular price at the time. CHEERS!
KmanAuto I agree. I don’t worry too much about disk space. Same reason I find most of this cloud business is useless for saving space. It is helpful for moving things around or looking at a certain library of music or video etc. But I wouldn’t spend a whole lotta money buying cloud space. When Hard drives are soooo cheap as you have shown.
Wow, I've never heard of a RAID storage array until I read this comment. Watching videos on it now, really cool. Thanks for sharing!
@@LUTYTV and that's why you have a backup (presumably in a 3-2-1 system: You have 3 different destinations where the same file resides, on 2 different media, one of them in another location/always with you.
You can even take it one step further by having one of those backups 'tailing' the other: should a back-up get infected by something, you can always revert to your last backup.
My back-up strategy is not the best (one big drive with everything I also have on the disks in my computer, always on top of the computer) but at least I have a backup and not a 'backup' (read: 'Please help me! My back-up disk crashed and now I lost everything!' 'Well, buy a new one and make a new backup?' 'You don't get it! My back-up disk contained everything I don't have on my computer!' 'Ah... so it's not a backup then...' '........' )
If you buy space at Google, I can think you can be sure they will have reduncancy in place. But I will never ever trust my files to Google for that sort of things. My files are my files, and they don't have anything to do with that. It also won't be the first time a big commercial company changes it's terms and conditions overnight and removes everything, or makes it invisible as long as you don't pay more.
Dude, amazing didactic video (well produced, cohesive and coherent with context ) ....you just won one more subscriber.
I thought this review was awsome and in a nutshell and straight to the point....GREAT
Hey Ed,
I stumbled across this video under recommended and I'm so glad I did. You have a very unique (and detailed) way of explaining things that most don't seem to talk about or simply overlook. Subscribed, and looking forward to more of your work!
2.7k all the way on my Mavic. Almost no discernible difference between that and 4k IMO.
That's because you lose detail with the Bayer pattern. A 4K bayer would be closer to a 1440P image than real RGB 4K, which you'd need a higher resolution camera to get.
I really like how you really got in depth comparing 4K and 1080p ..sadly many people don't understand the two when it comes to detail but HANDS DOWN! nice video .
I generally always shoot UHD 25p and deliver FHD. There are really so few benefits to delivering 4K or UHD currently. It's nice from a techy / geeky point of view but little more. As you say though, FHD framegrabs from UHD are superb.
Excellent informative submission. Now I understand why my old (though powerful) laptop has the stutters when trying to edit 4K.
I shoot full hd, because i release on you tube, and most people don't stream 4k, so i don't see the point to use up my storage. Great video though!
That’s my reasoning behind it too 😅
A sensible review. My latest camera is a Sony FDR AX700 and by using the HLG settings I get 1080@60 that looks very good. Very careful post sharpening bridges some the gap to 4k but at 1080 size. The main difference after careful post work is in the texture, 4k with its higher resolution shows fine texture detail better and that effects some outdoor shots where you see the detail in trees and similar. As far as future proofing with 4k, I don't believe it matters as 4k@60 is available now and the sensors and memory cards will only get better. Thanks for the review.
Good info Ed. Who the hell gives you a thumbs down? I mean WTF.
Tercero@ If you want to be treated with you as well. (Karma) OK.
Great video. I've found that most people cant see the difference between 1080 and 4k. And Its easy to trick people just by slightly adjusting the saturation and contrast. Most people thru no fault of their own believe that a brighter more vibrant image automatically means it was shot in a higher resolution. For me and my outdoor videos... 1080p does the job for now.
watching this video on 480p display ! xD
I'm watching it on 144p
what the fk r u doing here
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Lmao do you have an iphone
Me too (480p), it was automatically chosen for no reason. Changed back to 4K
the info and opinions are appreciated - I'm not big on the tech side so it's nice to hear your take on it - 4K sounds awesome in the store but there's always more to it
Your pursuit for excellence has been attained! Very good job explaining everything and excellent visual examples showing all the differences!
Another thing to add is fps, you can shoot 1080p at 60fps now and display it on youtube, i prefer 60fps videos over 25fps 4k clips, especially if its a moving scene.
I agree with you. I use 1080/60p for youtube.
This largely depends on what kind of look the person is going for, for instance, most cinematic videos are done in 24fps, while some vloggers might use 30fps and high action sports might use 60fps. The frame-rate can actually contribute to the overall experience of the video and if the 4K footage is more of a nature cinematic set of clips, then 24-25fps can help aid to that experience.
There are 4K 60FPS videos on YT...
We shoot and export in 4k on our other channel because of personal tastes and future proofing. I like this video and agree with the pros and cons. As far as editing, my PC has it's good days and it's bad days. But after upgrading the hardware a little, the issues are not as bad. And as far a storage, I delete the raw footage after I upload the final video.
Great presentation, i love your approach, thank you for this video
I have a Panasonic camcorder and the 1080p @ 50fps footage is incredible!
I'm watching this at 240p and don't see any difference between it and 4K. Both look low res to me...
That's your internet connection then
Hey Ed, I love the reactions I get from people who see the 4k vids from my Mavic Pros on my 65" 4k TV. I recently had a friend visit and wanted to see what I've been doing with my Mavics. She's a professional. She has a pair of DJI Inspires. Until that day she only ever saw her footage on a PC. She was blown away.
Thanks for this very informative Video. Good Overview for beginners
Excellent analysis of the 4K v 1080P argument Ed, many thanks for sharing your experiences and obvious knowledge with us! Keep it up ..
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100% correct...my WD 4TB worked great the 1st week then total failure for no reason. I bought a 4tb SEAGATE and no issues
you spoke my mind
I purchased a Sony AX33 camcorder specifically to shoot in 4K. My SD cards are the fastest and all are either 32 or 64 (will add a 128). I purchased a custom made desktop with the highest level i7 CPU ( at the time) and an NVidia GPU and up'd the RAM to 32 GB. I have at least 10 TB worth of external HDs. BUT, I find I still primarily shoot in HD and post my recent footage to UA-cam In HD. Its the processing time and the amount of storage that has kept me from shooting more. The local computer shop has offered to get me external RAID storage. I may have to go in that direction. Spring 2017 events are coming up and I may chose to add more 4K but the quality of HD still produces good editable/viewable footage.
You're so stupid mate. Intel i7 is shit. For 4K you need Ryzen 7. You stupid moron. Nvidia GPU sucks too. Just get AMD you dipshit
If you notice I said "at the time". I don't disagree that Ryzen 7 is excellent, but it wasn't around then. So I don't know why you need to be so nasty? But I am not about to buy a new computer nor gut the one I have.
Hiding behind anonymity I'd suggest anyone who reads you comments takes them for what they're worth.
Read his name
I went to his channel and it appears anonymous. I don't get into spates online, because it's not worth my time nor aggravation. Good work I complement, the rest I disregard. but thank you.
I love the level of detail you got into in this video
Shoot in 4k edit it via proxy, slow computer problems solved. :-)
Until it's time to hit export XD
lol, true
Hi, could you explain what you mean by "edit it by proxy"? Thank you.
A Proxy is a low res lesser quality version of your footage, that's in a codec your computer can decipher more easily. So when you import footage into Premiere Pro if that's what you're using, you can choose to create proxies of your files so that you edit lowres files. Then when it comes time to export, you just switch out the lowres files for your original footage. Bam! It's great if your computer struggles with 4K or even 1080p H.264 footage.
Final Cut Pro X does it automatically. I can edit much faster than if I would edit the raw 8K footage directly from my RED.
I shoot in 4K, but down res to 1080, I do believe the end result still looks better than regular 1080. Great video, thank you for all the hard work ! 🌁
Comparing hd and 4k on phone screen at 480p 😁
All things considered... content and (good audio) is STILL king. I'll stick with 1080 until my clients pay for my upgrade. This goes for drones and cameras. I've spent hours watching youtube videos and debating with myself instead of working on a changing something harder than my camera gear... my cinema style and craft as a whole. The gear is the easy(ier) change.
Good vid man!
Whenever I don't need the fps I use 4k. Any other time 1080p.
this was clear enough thank you
Most normal people can't even tell the difference - 4k is years away from being the actual standard, I think HD/FHD still has a solid life ahead
Are most people blind ? Maybe there is a large geriatric population in your country because its really hard to understand how someone cant tell the difference.
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@@casualcadaver it`s the same. px is px.
4K TVs are cheap now. Years away? I don't think so.
My camera suport 4K but my computer not support for rendering.. my opinion FullHD is best choice for UA-cam channel
I agree with your point of view, I don't have enough storage to keep my video files and don't want to invest more money to upgrade my computer/laptop for editing. For all videos I use 1080P.
2.7k 30fps is my goto format
Anonymous Tutourals/reactin/reload opps you are correct i ment to say 2.7k 60
I have the mavic and I use 2.7k for the very reasons you pointed out... great video by the way ..... also at the movies I only go to a cinema with 4k projectors... to my eyes the difference is incredible
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Would be nice if you'd add the metric system as well to it.
The rest of the video is very helpful, thanks!
10 ft = 3 metre
Nicely presented video. For me the main reason for shooting 4K is, as you mentioned, allowing me to crop or dynamic zoom in post editing. When storage starts becoming an issue, is when you render it to something like Prores. then your files become huge.
Can upload a 4k video in 3 minutes, complains about that it takes long.
I can upload a 140p 1 minute video in 3 minutes i think if i downscale it halfways
I takes me a whole night to upload a gigabyte, and 4K is usually past 1GB/m
Not only very informative and great video but also has a great sense of humor.
Drone 4k is a lot different than a big camera 4k...
Or Alta 8 from Freefly Systems. :-)
That is just plain wrong
Yes it’s true!
It's because the senor sucks.
What about RED camera vs Drone camera?
I built a really solid desktop (i7, 32Gb Ram, $400 Nvidia Graphics card) about 5 years ago. I was using my laptop to process 1080 video and the rending time was 12-16 hours for a 2 hour video. The desktop did it in 2 hours(1:1). Ive been looking at doing 4k now that the price of some camcorders/dslr have dropped (I do have a GoPro hero 4 black-Sensor is so small). Basically I get to upgrade again
I couldn't see any difference between full HD and 4k.. oh wait i'm watching with a full HD monitor
you'd see difference in fine details being sharper. plus this video doesn't have a 4k option(at least on my end it only went to 1440p) so you aren't watching it in the max bandwidth youtube has.
Rendered my first 4K video today on Vegas Pro 14 with an i7 6700K @ 4.5Ghz / 8GB DDR4 @ 3000Mhz / GTX 1080 and my computer struggled to provide preview footage no matter what setting it was on...definitely made me reconsider shooting at 21:9 or 16:9 FHD for my next video despite the increased detail clarity from 4K. I'd rather have a well composed video from good editing work with smooth previewing for increased editing accuracy than a sharper looking less perfected video composition due to limited or nearly nonexistent video previewing.
I prefer 1080p at 60f
ikr...
exactly
1080p 60fps is gorgeous
4k 60 is better
@@leecason9468 file size is tremendous
Congrats Totally agree. 50% of the projects we do are in 1080p it varies from project needs.
shooting in 4k as hobby is kinda pointless i think. takes up so much room. and need a decent pc to edit it. and takes days to upload on youtube.
No. yes, not really, and only if you have shit internet.
4K is important to me to preserve more detail. the room is fine I just throw away useless clips. if you use proxies it's very easy to edit. and I only get max 3Mbps upload and 4K uploads don't take too long.
And here I thought 16 Gigs of RAM on my HP laptop was enough? Heck, it didn't come with Bluetooth or HDMI out...Need another credit card...oh my...
I just stumbled on this video and have to says it is the best video on this topic that I watched so far.👏
Hi Ed
I was having the same problem, the more cuts and edits I made the slower the video would get. Adding sound created more slowness and then slow mo or speeding up created even more stuttering and jerkiness during editing. I had good hardware but the 4K was slow as crap on Premiere Pro. As someone else mentioned I found the solution which is the Proxy option. It eliminates all the problems. Yes the computer takes a bit of time at the start to make the lower res proxy files but after that you can edit with the low res 1080P clones and they play the video smoothly. The final product is made using the original 4K footage so it looks the same when your finished. You can toggle between the two while working if you ever need to.
Check out this video. A guy named Svavar and Robbyg on Mavicpilots bought the solution to my attention.
helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/how-to/proxy-media.html
Peace !!
Awesome! Thanks for the info John
Thank you so much for this video explaining pros and cons without bashing on one or the other. I think it really does depend on the aim of your project as well as the quality of you other gear. You just helped me decide between the Olympus E-M10 Mark II and mark III as I really thought I wanted the III's 4K ability but my computer wouldn't even be able to process 4k videos anyway (let alone edit it).
4K of shitty pixels is still a shitty image.
You're right.
i can give you a 4k picture of my eyes, where you won't see where my eyes are placed
Yup trash in = trash out
Good to hear something sensible in this area, well shot and carefully post produced 1080 looks very close to 4k, the main difference if you use a large enough monitor is in the texture when you shoot UHD 4k. 2.5/2.7k can be shot at 60 frames which really improves horizontal panning where 24, 25 and 30 frame are hard to get good results unless you pan very slowly.
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Ed, thanks for the great explanation.
With my Mavic Air, I shoot in 1080 @ 60fps as any less fps gives me too much jitter due to camera movement.
I thought my videos were nice and smooth but sometimes too clear and too real so your comment to adjust sharpness to a - value is exactly what I was missing so thank you for this video.
This guy has got HD and FHD mixed up, HD is 720p, whilst 1080p is really FHD, not HD. If you're going to use a chart and give a lesson, research what resolution is first.
He also doesn't know about using proxies to smooth out editing workflow...soooo.. take it as you will. I dismissed some things in this video.
There is also another input to take into account when deciding to shoot 1080 or 4K: the max framerate. Most drones allow only 24-25 or 30 fps, whixh, I believe, results in really jerky footage, unless you are shooting landscape while moving slowly. 50 fps allows you to shoot moving scenes really smoothly. Another hint if you want to reduce jerks is to use and ND filter in order to allow longer exposure (1/50 second)
Great video- very resourceful, helpful and to the point!
you have the least annoying tech tutorial videos i've seen. thank you for getting to the point, and covering what matters.
He's an actor and good at it. That's why.
Thank you for the great tips on Shooting in 4K or 1080 HD. Definitely will help my future projects !
Sometimes the stuttering is caused by the video codec. Computers have a hard time decompressing the video as you scrub or play it. A good way to test if this is the case would be to convert the video to a lossless compression format and then edit with it. (the hugest downside to this is the size of the video files, but you will usually find they scrub and play really nicely).
This is the best video I've found explaining 4K.
5 years later, and 4k still hasn't really replaced 1080p as the standard at this point.
True, more and more people watch content on their phones, and 4k doesn't matter when it's that close.
@@EdRickerVlogs yes, there is that, but even the industry hasn't really pushed entirely for the adoption of 4k filming. While big-budget blockbuster films have moved to filming in 4k and 8k, the indie scene still very much embraces 1080p and 2k. Television, especially broadcast television, still leans heavily towards 1080p, with animation, especially Anime, still favoring 720p. Live sports still opt for 1080p as well, largely because 1080p cameras still have better bit rates at more affordable costs.
My working theory falls into two categories. One is that the adoption of HD as the standard is still actually really young, only really being THE standard for a little over a decade, and even less with television. People already put a lot of time, money, and effort into updating to HD. It's too soon to ask the mass population to adopt yet a new standard after JUST making a commitment to HD.
And this flows into my second point -- people just don't care. The average consumer still supports standard definition. DVD sales made up over 70% of home video market sales last year. DVD provides what the average consumer considers video quality that's good enough. Some networks have opted to release their television shows on DVD but not Blu-Ray (look at The Orville). And to build on this, 1080p just looks good enough.
I find that freelancers and amateur filmmakers are the ones who care the most about whether 1080p is good enough or if they should shoot 4k. And I think that's because we think that's what a professional would do, use the best tech available. But that's not really the case, and we're all kind of overthinking it.
Ed, this was a really useful and informative video. It has provided me with many answers to questions I was asking myself about his very subject. It has cleared up a lot for me.
It really depends on what I'm shooting and what I'm shooting with. I'm I'm on a commercial I tend to shoot 8k on either a red or an alexa. If it's just a personal project I tend to shoot in uhd on a sony or gh5. Documentaries I tend to film uhd on a c300. It's all down to personal preference really and what your filming for. Most companies now prefer shooting hdr instead of 4k as it keeps the nice detail but is easier to edit.
Great video...you are expressing what many video makers should be doing, but they get so caught up in the hype of bigger is better and that is not always the way to go. Good on ya.
Well said. It’s about a year on since I started shooting in 4K (or actually UHD) on a Lumix GH4. I’d resisted it for a while as I didn’t have any display that could use it, but I have one now. One of the difficulties with my camera in 4K mode is focus accuracy, particularly if the subject has fairly soft contrast. Almost essential to use ‘focus lock’ before shooting a clip, otherwise the odd frame can be out of focus, which undermines the idea of using 4k at all! No doubt more upmarket cameras can cope with it. At present, I upload 4k to my UA-cam channel, and downscale to HD for creating home made Blu Ray output.
While almost all new domestic displays are 4k, they are often too small/too far to be beneficial, and the other issue is the transmission speed needed to support it.
Dear Ed.. tQ for your very very good & interesting review of 4K vs 1080p.
i definitely am not a professional video maker, all videos are watched on the PC/lappy screen, maybe forever, from your kind review, my happy choosing would be 1080p/120fps .. i love slomos.
thx a million Ed.
Thanks for the informative video on this topic.
I'm the classic example of what you addressed in this video. Received the Mavic Pro as a gift from my awesome wife and I started shooting videos in 4K only to quickly realize that my current computer can't handle 4K at all...stuttering and crashing so much that I can't enjoy any of the raw footage, let alone do any editing.
So, now after watching your video, I will try the 2.7 and 1080 to see what works best with my current setup. Headed up to the Sierra's to do some skiing and will have lots of time to play around with the Mavic to test out different settings. Moving forward, however, I do see a new computer in my future so I can reap the full benefits of the Mavic's 4K capabilities.
Good luck Steve! Thanks for watching
If you have an issue editing 4K footage- you can make a proxy file for it. It's going to use a lot of memory... but you can do it.
Both have there place. I think people are used to bad 1080p like what UA-cam delivers and also alot of DSLR's. If you ever have used a good cinema camera, the 1080p out of it looks stunning, not far off from 4k at all surprisingly.
I used to shoot everything in 4k with my Panasonic G85 because of the bad 1080p, but since I have had my GH5s I have used the 1080p in a lot of projects because it looks great. Saved me a lot of time for smaller projects as well as I don't need proxies.
One thing I would note, if you are using 1080p is to upscale to 4k when delivering to youtube. As the compression is massive!
Just starting out and have done some trials, so for I like 30fps for panning and 24fps- 30 for general use. Thanks for your video.
Excellent video, well-presented and such useful information. Thanks for taking the time to put this together for us.
Very Well done, this video is great for those of us trying to navigate the hardline of an 80D or a Sony RXv. You wouldn't think the two cameras would ever be compared to each other, forget having to decide between them, but for start up youtubers its a very real problem. Sony for the 4k - High FPS or Cannon stuck in HD but a much richer and diverse image.
One of the best video with great explanations
You just explained (and solved) 90% of my video editing and storage issues. Yes, I was thinking Premiere Pro and a many of other software were the problem. Operator Error!
Thank you for taking the time to explain. This is also related to the DJI Osmo Mobile stabilization issue you referenced.
Some good points! 2.7k is indeed something to consider.
I love using the 2.7 k setting on my camera, I find it to be a great middle ground
really well done
Ed . i use a samsung nx1and i agree with all your points.
thanks for the video, i am a novice when it comes to the drone world. i just purchased mavic pro and i have been shooting in 4k, when it came to post i had the exact issues you mentioned, and was questioning everything. thanks again for this informative video, your channel is tops. big thumbs up.
I was going to buy a 4k camera after days/weeks of researching with the thought of; why am I see some stuttering in 4k video in youtube when I did not open it in full screen. Now it make sense, I'm gonna re-thought my options. Thanks for the great info!
Great vid. No shitty audio. No distracting dumb backing track. Great points clearly made.
Let's be honest...when we've all fully geared up for 4K...we'll be bombarded with how 8k is the only way. Rinse and repeat.
Excellant delivery of very useful information! Things to consider for sure.
You are right. I've also made an observation: There are professional filmmakers who have recorded in 4K and put this in UA-cam. But not everyone has a fast Internet, and some of them without jerking only in 720p or max. 1080p, rather than in UHD 2160p, these films often do not look good or blurry. Other than those who still put in 720p or 1080p pure, such as the professional Lutz Dieckmann. The latter have, if filmed well, rather the better result.
Ed thx so much for doing this Video. It really an important topic that is not talked about very much. I have a film streaming on Amazon Prime Video that I shot with a broadcast quality SD camera before HD was invented! Content is king as they say so they picked my film to Stream on Amazon cuz my Editor did such a grest job and its a really good film now. European Surf Journal by me Peter Sterling. Thx again. Also lot of people viewing YT on phones! 5-6inch Screen