The Hidden Costs of Sailing Between Countries (Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose).
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- How much does it cost to sail between different countries? How easy is it? Do we have any hints and tips for you?
Well dear friends, if these are questions you wanted answered, this is the episode for you.
We get lots of questions all over our social media about various aspects of the cruising life. This is a popular topic. And, and, if this spurs you to drop the lines and explore other countries, then we have done our job.
So this Technical Tuesday, we discuss the formalities of immigration, the hacks to make your life easier.The pitfalls to avoid and the costs we have encountered over three years of cruising. Enjoy.
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I've been watching sailing channels for a while. This is the best description of the process of checking in my far. Thanks for the information.
so pleased you found it useful. Fair winds.
Patraic I'll second that 👍🏼
@@sailingrubyrose djor
In years of watching sailing vlogs this is the first one posted on this reality - THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!!!
so pleased you found it useful. Fair winds.
One of the things that constantly amazes me about you guys is how respectful you are of other people’s beliefs even though you don’t agree with them, and rules and red tape that would have most people griping nonstop. I love that you try to see things from the other side. The weirdest mix of maturity and foolishness it’s ever been my pleasure to witness.
That’s Jennifer. :)
It was interesting to see the massive shroud connection. I once crewed on a not well maintained boat where the shroud pulled away from the bulkhead/chainplate. Predictably, the mast came down violently.
Always check your standing rigging
The standing rigging undergoes very high forces and tensions which we tend to ignore because we are trimming sheets and halyards. The mast/shrouds/chain plates/bulkhead/keel forms a system of shapes that can't be allowed to fail, or else the mast will come down violently. There was so much damage done that, as I recall, this boat was not repaired by the owner and was abandoned. If anyone had been on deck when the chain plate pulled away from the bulkhead, and there usually is during a race, there could have been serious injury. We were lucky.
See... these are the important things people need to know. Not all sun an swimsuits . Very informative thank you sir,technical Tuesday is fun. Also glad your Tash has been thrown over board.!
This was such great information, thanks Nick. Likewise, I have never seen any other channel cover the checking in process so thoroughly. Peace & blessings
Cheers Kia, glad it helps.
Great insight into $$ check in / check out of different countries. Thanks Nick!
I've seen from other YT Sailors that sometimes the local customs officials charge more for people declared as passengers rather than crew. So declaring everyone on-board as crew seems to be cheaper.
Distant Shores sent me here. Good vid. Thank you for posting
We owe paul and Sheryl. They were our planning gurus many years ago when we first started sailing
rainy day at home. About to binge watch your channel! Have gap year planned for 2022 to run to S. Pacific.
Good plan for a gap year my friend
Thanks you two! That is so reassuring and exactly what I needed to process to let go of a little of the anxiety before taking the leap! Bravo!!
Go for it !!!!
Very informative. Thanks Nick.
Always a pleasure my friend
Thank you Nick for all the information that you share with us . You are making my transition to become a cruiser much easier. Thank you again.
Good to see you've returned to your boyish good looks and shaved the caterpillar off the upper lip and the 70's mini-vag bush from below the lower lip! I think we all knew Terysa would prevail!!
hahahha
On point, filled with common sense advice (vital info, not least the emphasis on courtesy and respect). Timely too for Brits contemplating sailing “abroad” next year to France, Belgium, Holland etc ... I’m old enough to have cruised to those places before Britain entered the Common Market. The Q flag and formalities were things we just did. And they probably will be again after March 2019. 😅
Been binge watching as I am fascinated by sailing and am learning as much as possible before buying a sailboat. I am a born/bred Londoner but now a naturalized American living in coastal SW Florida. There are many nice places close enough for sailing and I have been bitten by the bug. Your channel is informative, awesome and entertaining! Great job both of you
Brilliant video and really useful - thanks
Glad you liked it :)
I like how thorough you are describing what you need to do in other countries thumbs up
Kudos for a detailed, informative breakout of multi-country checking-in procedures and regulations.👍👍
Cheers mate
Nice video.
Here's one other item which I would have added regarding check-ins and costs and payment methods. As you point out, many countries take only cash. I have had circumstances where they require cash but cannot make change. So, you might have a fee of, say $10, but you may only have a $20 bill (or even larger, possibly). In that case, you're effectively required to pay $20 since YOU cannot provide the correct change. That is my experience in at least a couple of cases in Caribbean countries. So, there is another hidden cost.
And while video is about is the issue of cost and not convenience, I will also add that sometimes there are other costs and convenience issues. For example, in Anguilla, there is a check in fee, but you aren't allowed to anchor in most areas unless you pay an upgraded fee (as I recall it was at least another $100 or so). I suppose you could call that a cruising fee (not C&I), but it was another cost.
Lastly, there's also the very real issue of convenience. For example, you've typically got a very limited period of time following checkout to actually leave the country. I'd say that those requirements are generally reasonable (ie: exit within 24 hours).
However, some C&I offices are not convenient to your exit point (or weather) and it may put real pressure on your travel plans. (For me, this happened in Guadeloupe. And here's how I personally handle that: I try to do everything, within reason, exactly according to rules and regs. However, if boat situation, weather or other "reasonableness" get in the way, then I'm going to use my own best judgement and, possibly, take some risk relative to C&I rather than making some ridiculous hustle to exit.)
Good points well made. Agree that there are some random costs that are not really related to C&I, but occur either during, before or shortly after.
USVI. Many anchorages only allow mooring balls. Another cost. US Visas $200 2 years before departing.
hey thanks for posting, and even a twist on the "Marrakech Express"/ cruising Morocco... Cheers!
Just shared! A very informative presentation on the procedures and costs of checking in and out of foreign ports that many sailors can learn from.
Thank you both so much.
You guys are just killin' it every time! Thanks for the info Nick.
Thanks mate. glad you enjoyed it
Great information Nick. You always give us great "how-to" videos!!! Thanks!!!
Excellent thanks!
Well done Nick, very interesting
As soon to be live aboard we hunger for good information, keep it coming!😎
Glad to see you had your hair so neatly done for this video... setting a good example I presume. Thanks for the great vid we just found we couldn't go to Amsterdam due to not having all the papers... sigh back to Dover.
Oh dear. Sorry to hear that
Good info, thanks! We're off to the Caribbean from Toronto in 36 days!
yay. awesome. Good luck
Excellent info. Thank you.
Pleasure
Thank you Nick for such an accurate and to the point info video.
Excellent points Nick. I would point out though that for Europe cruisers you need to buy a transit log “crusing permit in disguise for Greece. It’s €55 per entry. So if you got one and then turned it in just a month later and went to Turkey you need to again pay another €55. It’s good for 18 months of active boat use though if you don’t leave Greece. So we store our boat on the hard for 6 months of the year and our boat goes into bond. So our transit log is good for 3 years. If you stay too long you have to pay VAT. Italy is trying to adopt the same program and fee structure since Greece survived a challenge by the EU on this. Croatia soon to be Schengen also has a €100 crusing permit fee for 3 months.
So EU is not free.
And last check France is watching Greece and Italy to see if this works and then they will also follow suit.
They already claimed most of there coast as a no anchor area so you have to use the mornings that cost crazy amounts of money.
But keep up the great work.
Good points my friend. It is meant to be free, but the greeks have a separate fee.
Great video Nick. I love Technical Tuesdays - This is a fantastic addition to the channel :)
so pleased you found it useful. Fair winds.
Excellent. To echo others comments - A really helpful episode about, what can be, a very confusing subject.
You’ve certainly increased our confidence when we finally venture outside the EU.
Keep ‘em coming. 👍
Awesome mate.
Great info Nick . Will save this one in my list .
Is that you Nick!?!? So clean cut and civilized looking!
Only 40k views! Why??? This is excellent information!!!
Ah earlier material mate.
I do appreciate all the valuable information I gain from watching your Videos. Thank you.
Thanks Nick. Great advice..
WOW! Now THAT is sharing information!! Thanks so much. It's a topic I've been avoiding because, for me, it's at least a year away before I even have to consider dealing with passport, visas, fees, marinas/ports, laws...and it's a topic that is always there in the back of the mind; nagging. Has to be addressed at some point, and you just made that 'nagging' effect much calmer for me. VITAL information, that is what this 12 minute video is; VITAL. Thanks so much!!
so pleased you found it useful. Fair winds.
Awesome information about checking in. Thanks for helping those who may not know.
Really informative. It provides the confidence to go further afield... thank you!
Awesome. That is what we wanted to achieve
Thank you so much for share info with us.
Great stuff! Well organized and helpful! In Croatia we were flying the Q flag and hadn't gone ashore but had anchored temporarily in a non-check-in harbour. The judge said if we had called ahead in Croatia we wouldn't have been arrested :-)
oooh. Awesome information.
Thanks for the info, it was very helpful...
Thank you Nick for yet another informative video!
Your bloody legends Nick & Tes, thanks
Cheers
Thanks for a professional, interesting and informative report. Sail safe.
Thanks mate. glad you enjoyed it
thank you that was very insightful and helpful, some boaters kind of mention there check in, and some have difficulty's in some country's that may not be as organize in less developed areas of the world but it's all part of the adventure. thanks again.
Thank you for all this info. Much appreciated.
Excellent video!
Cheers mate
Thank you Nick....I've been wondering how sailor's knew so much about destations before they left, now thanks to you I've got a clue.....Noonsite.com is a good start!
Noonsite and active captain.
ActiveCaptain.com is another good one.....thank you Nick!
Great advice and well explained thanks Nick!
Most excellent Video. You have answered just about question about arrival and departures-COOL!
Good topic, Nick. Glad you are back to shaving. ; )
Thanks, great information.
Brilliant as always, preparing me for cruising. Could you do something on boat requirements? Things we may not know, like black/grey water requirements. Things you could get fined for not complying with etc. Thanks Mark
You should have a black tank for any marinas. They are not difficult to retro fit in most boats.
Grey water, Ive only heard of Turkey having requirements. But that is annecdotal
Very good advice, especially on dress code and filming.
Thanks mate
Great video. I have been wondering about that stuff
so pleased you found it useful. Fair winds.
Useful and eye opening video. Thank you!
Great information to share, thanks!
Amazing talk. Thank you and well done. Roger
Thanks
So informative. Best info I’ve seen on this subject. Please keep up these vids.
P.S. Time you guys sorted a patrion account. You guys are up there with the best of the sailing channels so stop selling yourselves short. Good luck God Bless.
We are still (just about) avoiding patreon. We didnt do it last year as youtube were kind of ok, and werent demonetising half our videos. This year they are being a little more mean. If anything changes we'll let you know.
We do have. "Buy us a beer" link somewhere.
Absolutely fantastic video chock full of useful tips! Thank you.
Thankyou!
Two things Nick, 1 very informative video, 2 glad to see the tash gone. Thanks and best from HKG 🇭🇰
Great stuff as always! Thanks for the info. Keep up the good work. :)
thank you sooooo much for this info!!
Super informative, thanks for the video.
Well done as usual!
👍👍⛵🌹⛵👍👍
Thanks Nick. I appreciate the insight.
cheers Richard Stiger. Thanks for the comment, and fair winds
Great stuff and great attitude! One issue you omitted is the asking for, expectation of, and necessity of "gratuities", "bakshish", "tipping", etc. of government officials upon entry/exit. Any comments?
We thought we would be plagued in Morocco. In fact we bought packets of cigarettes in anticipation of problems. Never needed them. Some beaurocratic problems, but no bakshish in over a month. Ended up giving the cigarettes to the policeman who checked us out of the country.
Great talk, very informative. You briefly mentioned using credit cards and carrying cash. Is there much difficulty in banking. Withdrawing of cash from banks, exchanging currencies at different destinations etc. Perhaps a subject for a new film.
Are you having as much fun as you did before you started making videos? Cheers! BTW love your videos!
Good question mate.
Genuinely yes. It's more fun now. We were looking for something to keep the brain working andnfilm making has happily filled thst gap. Its also a crqzy learning process. We thought we knew so much when we started. But we continue to learn.
Cool wasn’t sure as it seems like a lot of work but I understand the need to feel productive even though I may have passed that point Cheers I continue to enjoy your content and hope to buy you a drink or two or three sometime!
Awesome. Look forward to it
What flavor of passport you carry makes a big difference. US or UK or EU? Generally no problems on check in. As clear from watching Sailing Uma, if you are from Hati, it can range from difficult to impossible. I suspect that African and middle eastern to middle Asia can be quite different too. Your milage really will vary.
too true. US, EU passports are king here.
Great stuff thanks for your time very interesting and reassuring 👍🏻
Very informative. Thank you!
Pleasure
Thank you, answers some worries I had.
so pleased you found it useful. Fair winds.
Love these info videos Nick.
Great information Nick. Wasn't sure you would want your full name and address on the video though when you showed some docs. Andy UK
darn good info Nick, law of the land, some body got get payed,lol thanks for sharing.
Very Informative.
Very good video. Thanks for the info.
Thank YOU SIR !!! GREAT helpful video.!!
That made a lot of sense! Thank you!
Wow! So travelling to Ireland from Azores (my plan) means no more check ins after the Azores? Awesome! Still have visa issues though as I plan to spend forever in Ireland. Thanks Nick!
This was really helpful . Cheers
Great video Nick
Great vid you two. How much would the fees change for having six kids aboard?
...seriously😂. We move aboard in Florida in January. We can’t wait to see the Euro-vids!
For real? 6 kids?? Bet there's never a dull moment onboard your boat!
This is always been my first concern when watching sailing videos. it always seems like in all the other videos It's almost never spoken about. like everythings la-di-da and fun fun fun all the way with no talk of the law.
Well done! Thank you!
No worries
Part of respect is to wear a shirt. Yep. Made the price of having to leave the queue, return to the boat and queue again. Too easy to slip in to holiday mode!
we've seen it so many times. We got keelhauled in Carriacau many moons during our yachtmaster ago for laughing in the customs office. They said that we not showing enough respect. We obviously apologised profusely, but the customs officer took his sweet time after that in processing us.
Great Information !!!
As always simple and informative thanks Nick, I did have to check if it really was you speaking what with that clean shaven face and new haircut. Take care.
bahahaha
I've heard that it seems to be a lot more expensive in the pacific.
good am sir,, the noonsite website is helpful
Thanks, good informative video.
Nicely done. But folks have said that checking into the US, you MUST call in again any time you move the boat, even to another slip in the same marina. Be warned.
depends on the state. CBP have a full list of state requirements. SC and Florida only required change of city notification.
Excellent. I have been wondering.
Thank you so much mate. appreciate the comment
very good and precise
thank you great info.