Beechcraft 58 Baron Cost of Ownership!!!

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  • Thinking of buying a Beechcraft Baron 58? Wouldn’t it be helpful to know how much it costs to own ad operate one?
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  • @WarrenatCLS
    @WarrenatCLS 11 місяців тому +6

    I just did 2 IO-520s on my Baron. A reman will cost your about $48K per engine. By the time you do labor, hoses, and baffles, double that cost per engine. So round up to $50K, you’re looking at about $200K in engines and labor. Also, you won’t just do the engines at overhaul or if you blow a motor, you’ll also do the props. I was $5K per prop ($10K total) and add another $3K per governor if you blow the engine and there was metal in the oil. So you’re looking at about $225K on a dual engine swap and prop overhauls. (Add more if you need new props or switch from 2 to 3 bladed props, etc). Also, if you must replace engines not at your home hangar, you’ll need to assume paying at least 6 months of extra hangar space somewhere else. Landing gear motor overhaul after 4000 hrs of service is about $5K. Overall, I’d say your video was mostly on target. Takeoff we’re burning 50-55gph, cruise is 26-30gph. Price of any avionics upgrades are all over the place, but mostly unnecessarily expensive. But Barons are great airplanes for the money. Best airplane you can buy short of a jet. I’ve carried 6 adults, or full cargo. Plane can land at runways under 2000ft or you have the speed in terminal airspace to mix with the heavies into ORD, JFK, MIA, etc. Barons will go direct to 13-16,000ft from takeoff at gross weight. You can comfortably cross mountains and large oceans with twin redundancy. Also, I’ve done the actual engine failure of the critical engine, left engine, at night, and at the gulf of mexico. A Baron on 1 engine basically turns into a Bonanza, and is still an extremely competent aircraft. I’ve owned my Baron now for 15 years. Will never sell it.

    • @aviationguys247
      @aviationguys247  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the thorough update
      Prices for overhauls have gone thru the roof recently
      I agree they are great planes

  • @Catlaunch1337
    @Catlaunch1337 Рік тому +7

    I own a 2001 Baron 58 - absolutely love the plane. Doing your own oil changes can save you potentially $300-500 per change (typically changing oil every 50 hours). Also burning lean of peak at 10000' is about 12-12.5 gph per side with TAS of 180.. so 24-25gph total vs. 30. So I agree with Richard below... you can conserve a little on the fuel spend if you are willing to go a little slower. I have also heard similar things on going beyond TBO on engines. If well maintained, you should expect to be able to go several hundred hours beyond TBO. Also, my hangar is about $425/month. Nice video!

  • @Petemitchell0341
    @Petemitchell0341 2 роки тому +12

    Short and to the point, I love it! All the important info without having to fast forward through a bunch of nonsense. Thanks!!!

  • @bernardanderson3758
    @bernardanderson3758 2 роки тому +2

    That’s why the piston twins are not moving in the market prices and as you described the cost of owning and operating one

  • @richardthomas5466
    @richardthomas5466 2 роки тому +7

    You can save yourself a ton of money by doing a lot of things yourself or under a mechanics watch. I have a 58 baron and pay 300 a year for and owner assisted annual, I do my own oil and tire changes . Along with different maintenance and repairs I work with my mechanic to save money. Also flying lean of peak will also save a bunch of fuel, I typically fly mine at 20-21gph at 9-10k ft and avg 175kts TAS. BTW the TBO is just an arbitrary number that is not a have to do. I would suggest you watch some of the videos from Mike Bush with SAAVY aviation. My aircraft has around 19,000 hrs TTAF and the engines are at or over TBO and the compressions are good and they have plenty of power. If speed is all you want then by all means burn all that dinosaur juice you can, but also know you can fly them very efficiently and still get to where you want to be just a few minutes later.

    • @TheOriginalCryptoPimp
      @TheOriginalCryptoPimp Рік тому +1

      Guys who run/own big companies don't have time for that. For me it's about saving time not money.

    • @GeneHaas0
      @GeneHaas0 Рік тому +2

      @@TheOriginalCryptoPimp Hey Mr Big Schlong. He was just trying to explain something for the viewers.

    • @capitaljushman5756
      @capitaljushman5756 7 днів тому

      Owner assisted annuals aren't legally a thing. Only the tech that approves the plane for return to service (which is an IA in the case of an annual) can inspect.

  • @pilotgirl5953
    @pilotgirl5953 Рік тому +2

    My B58 was about $500/hr Canadian so your prices appear to be pretty good.

  • @raphaelbelthrand4482
    @raphaelbelthrand4482 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting.... a two blade Baron 58!

  • @bernardanderson3758
    @bernardanderson3758 2 роки тому +2

    Multi engine rating isn’t cheap to add on buy as for flying at night freight I’ll take a twin

    • @aviationguys247
      @aviationguys247  2 роки тому

      For night it’s a must unless you have a parachute
      Also better useful load

  • @bernardanderson3758
    @bernardanderson3758 2 роки тому +1

    You move up from a 1967 Skyhawk to a Nice B58 Baron

  • @robd1859
    @robd1859 Рік тому +1

    I don't understand if the twin engine baron got basically 600 horsepower. 300 Per engine and it has a climb rate of 1700' per minute Why does it only have a service ceiling of 20000'. The cessnaT206 Turbo station air Has 300 horsepower in a single engine And only has a climb rate of 960' per minute. But has a service ceiling of 26000'. Explained to me the logic I'm lost. Please enlighten me. I would like to understand why such a nice airplane doesn't have the service ceiling of cessna t206.
    ?????

    • @captainrevolution5397
      @captainrevolution5397 Рік тому +3

      Key thing there is turbo vs non-turbo. I’m not sure what all the specs are in each airplane but I’m assuming the 20k service ceiling is for a non-turbo 58, I’m sure the turbo is higher. Idk though

    • @Vladdy89
      @Vladdy89 Рік тому +1

      Because turbo engines can operate in low air density conditions, while non-turbo engines cannot.

    • @cwhitty05
      @cwhitty05 5 місяців тому

      The Baron 58P (turbo and pressurized) has a service ceiling of 25,000ft. The turbo makes the difference. Without a turbo, every 1,000ft you gain in altitude, the engine loses a little power because the air is thinner. By the time you get to 20,000ft, the engine can only produce about 40% of its rated power. The turbo charger force-feeds the engine nice pressurized dense air, allowing it to make almost full-rated power all the way up to about 18,000ft before it starts running out of steam. That’s why turbo aircraft can climb higher and have a much faster cruise speed at the higher altitudes. Hope that helps you understand.