I got flamed on Reddit for calling out how some gay/les people end their marriages terribly. The straight spouse is supposed to just suck it up and be supportive and if they’re upset then they’re a bigot. I deadass had ppl tell me that they left their husband/wife and didn’t care how they felt. It is barbaric. Being gay doesn’t give you an excuse to be an asshole. You divorce amicably and leave them alone!
Seriously they couldn't just find a beard to marry. You know somebody who knows that they're gay and is willing to marry them to hide that fact from their family. Like that would have made things so much easier for a lot of couples rather than just breaking somebody else's heart. Especially since they have to make that person fall in love with them have sex with them all of the intimacy involved in a long-term relationship. Then to find out that their partner not only isn't attracted to their gender but also most likely fake everything for years
Cause being gay is everything being gay is life to those people I’ve only ever met and chatted briefly with a few decent people ever that didn’t push the bullsh*t beliefs of that community
Exactly. I don't care who you want to sleep with or identify as, but just end the marriage legally first or at least officially seperate toward dissolution of the marriage. But cheating is wrong regardless of gender.
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684Well said. When OP's son hits 16, he'll disappear on his mother and her wife to couch-surf with randos, next, he'll stay with a US native girlfriend who also lives in Spain with mother and stepfather, only, to get her pregnant, then, move with his girlfriend back to the US, to stay with her bio-dad and STB-stepmother, (after her mother and stepfather kick them out, get passports and US citizenship restored), get his GED certificate, and marry his girlfriend, at 18.⚠️
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684 Unfortunately, a lot of people think that their actions leading up to and after their coming out journey can never be criticized because they are opening up to a new identity that was stifled, before. And that last part is fine, just as long as you aren't being dishonest and selfish.
I heard getting a kid back from the other parent who lives in another county is often impossible. I don't know why op is taking the risk of never seeing his kid again.
There is a case where an American man is trying to get his son back from his ex who ran away to South Korea. I think he hasn’t seen him in years. Scary shit!
@@maxherrera5344this typenof shit needs to stop. Consequences are learning experiences, barring people from experiencing them implies they are too fragile to suffer. That is fucking insulting.
This is my prediction: The ex wife isn't the mastermind on this. Its the co-worker. They are the dominate one and the one coming up with all of these ideas. Its the ex's first gay relationship, she rushed in, and now is realizing her new wife is a control freak. If the Op makes an update again I bet its "My ex just left her wife"
I completely agree. Look at how the new wife is talking about how she's always wanted a son and how OP is supposedly the villain for being "emotionless" during the divorce. It's like this woman does not comprehend that she's the affair partner and that OP is being significantly more cordial to her than what she deserves, given that she very clearly has an agenda. She already took his wife and now she wants his son, too.
OP1: Lesbians creating unnecessary drama for the sake of their own selfishness, with no a single caring for the rest of the people around, and putting a pikachu face when they're confronted? Lmao. What kind of news are these!
I get the feeling that it is actually the new wife who is making these suggestions. OP's ex wife has only this very new experience with same-sex relationships and she very quickly jumped into getting married to this other woman who is undoubtedly more experienced than her. And then what happens next? They want to take OP's son off to another country for "bonding." Yet again, moving way too fast, way too soon.
These self aggrandizing types always seem hellbent on erasing tomboys and femboys. Like can't people be who they are WITHOUT being under the trans umbrella? Why do we HAVE to be trans to dress however the hells we want?
“being homophobic by denying her a complete family” yeah cause i’m sure if you were trying to force a man to adopt him instead op would be completely okay with that be fr
Story 2: Part of being an “ally” is understanding that forcing someone to come out is disgusting and wrong. Lauren doesn’t want to be an ally, she wants to be right.
1st Story: This has nothing to do with homophobia and everything to do with how the ex-wife is trying to have literally everything her own way. She can complain all she wants, but, OP is always going to be the father. If she and her wife want a "complete family," then they need to adopt, or do IVF, not drag an existing child into this mess by bringing him to a new country(Spain) and flipping his entire life upside down just for the mom's picture perfect lesbian family.
the op in the first story needs to fight to protect his son. There is a 40% chance, with each lesbian partner, that they will either hit each other, or hit the kid. This is a peer reviewed and replicated statistic, that gets more disturbing the more you drill into it.
Well said, and if that happens, and someone witnesses that, they'll contact the authories to take the kid away from the mother and her wife, return him to the US, place him in foster care, and then, with another family, though closed adoption
social trauma yeah get lawyers and go to the school and demand to be informed about every little thing about your son and make it clear he has one dad and one mom
Story 2: Lauren sounds like the type of person to also be offended on behalf of another person. It's more offensive because it's saying that the other person is too stupid to understand but Lauren knows best and she'll take care of it poor marginalized person.
*LESSONS TO BE LEARNED:* *STORY 1:* Ex and her AP are horrible, selfish people. *STORY 2:* Coworkers are not your friends. Be weary of what you share with them
Story 1: Cheating, parental alienation, and all the similar things don't change just because of sexuality. It's sad to see how people like that just get enabled and supported through their cruel behavior. Like, she literally wants to take away OP's son. OP needs a damn shark of a lawyer. Story 2: Coworker got what she deserved. This isn't support, it's harassment. And it does the exact opposite of supporting LGBT+ people.
If he subaru driver comes talking shit, just tell her to step up. ---- 'Allies' are almost always closeted predators. No, actually she does not have good 'intentions'.
The only thing I disagree with is not learning a second language, I used to hate it has a child, but once an adult it was really helpful and important and can open opportunities to other places.
I got flamed on Reddit for calling out how some gay/les people end their marriages terribly. The straight spouse is supposed to just suck it up and be supportive and if they’re upset then they’re a bigot. I deadass had ppl tell me that they left their husband/wife and didn’t care how they felt. It is barbaric. Being gay doesn’t give you an excuse to be an asshole. You divorce amicably and leave them alone!
Seriously they couldn't just find a beard to marry. You know somebody who knows that they're gay and is willing to marry them to hide that fact from their family. Like that would have made things so much easier for a lot of couples rather than just breaking somebody else's heart. Especially since they have to make that person fall in love with them have sex with them all of the intimacy involved in a long-term relationship. Then to find out that their partner not only isn't attracted to their gender but also most likely fake everything for years
Couldn't agree more with you.
Cause being gay is everything being gay is life to those people I’ve only ever met and chatted briefly with a few decent people ever that didn’t push the bullsh*t beliefs of that community
Entitlement and gay pretty much go hand in hand nowadays 🤷♂️
Exactly. I don't care who you want to sleep with or identify as, but just end the marriage legally first or at least officially seperate toward dissolution of the marriage. But cheating is wrong regardless of gender.
The ex is a complete scumbag to pull the homophobic card. I hope op and his son are doing well.
The classic coming out after being a cheater
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684Well said. When OP's son hits 16, he'll disappear on his mother and her wife to couch-surf with randos, next, he'll stay with a US native girlfriend who also lives in Spain with mother and stepfather, only, to get her pregnant, then, move with his girlfriend back to the US, to stay with her bio-dad and STB-stepmother, (after her mother and stepfather kick them out, get passports and US citizenship restored), get his GED certificate, and marry his girlfriend, at 18.⚠️
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684 Unfortunately, a lot of people think that their actions leading up to and after their coming out journey can never be criticized because they are opening up to a new identity that was stifled, before. And that last part is fine, just as long as you aren't being dishonest and selfish.
I heard getting a kid back from the other parent who lives in another county is often impossible. I don't know why op is taking the risk of never seeing his kid again.
Like, if the bio mom gets married to the Spanish AP in Spain I don't think the courts there are going to give a shit about OP's rights....
There is a case where an American man is trying to get his son back from his ex who ran away to South Korea. I think he hasn’t seen him in years. Scary shit!
@@flyguyryeeactually he was able to get his kids back last year. However, his exwife never faced any consequences.
@@maxherrera5344this typenof shit needs to stop. Consequences are learning experiences, barring people from experiencing them implies they are too fragile to suffer. That is fucking insulting.
This is my prediction: The ex wife isn't the mastermind on this. Its the co-worker. They are the dominate one and the one coming up with all of these ideas. Its the ex's first gay relationship, she rushed in, and now is realizing her new wife is a control freak. If the Op makes an update again I bet its "My ex just left her wife"
I'm thinking the same thing you're thinking
I completely agree. Look at how the new wife is talking about how she's always wanted a son and how OP is supposedly the villain for being "emotionless" during the divorce. It's like this woman does not comprehend that she's the affair partner and that OP is being significantly more cordial to her than what she deserves, given that she very clearly has an agenda. She already took his wife and now she wants his son, too.
OP1: Lesbians creating unnecessary drama for the sake of their own selfishness, with no a single caring for the rest of the people around, and putting a pikachu face when they're confronted? Lmao. What kind of news are these!
Why does the ex want her son on their honeymoon? It's not a family vacation.
Well said. The ex-wife will be greeted when her son goes total NO CONTACT with her, at 16 or 18.⚠️
I get the feeling that it is actually the new wife who is making these suggestions. OP's ex wife has only this very new experience with same-sex relationships and she very quickly jumped into getting married to this other woman who is undoubtedly more experienced than her. And then what happens next? They want to take OP's son off to another country for "bonding." Yet again, moving way too fast, way too soon.
S2: I feel sad for OP. She hunted down by some lunatic who treats OP's sexuality like its a fashion statement.
These self aggrandizing types always seem hellbent on erasing tomboys and femboys. Like can't people be who they are WITHOUT being under the trans umbrella? Why do we HAVE to be trans to dress however the hells we want?
Story 1: Dude, the break down of your marriage wasn’t your fault. Your ex was just a cheating 304. File for full custody ASAP.
No your not and fight for your son
“being homophobic by denying her a complete family” yeah cause i’m sure if you were trying to force a man to adopt him instead op would be completely okay with that
be fr
Story 2: Part of being an “ally” is understanding that forcing someone to come out is disgusting and wrong. Lauren doesn’t want to be an ally, she wants to be right.
1st Story: This has nothing to do with homophobia and everything to do with how the ex-wife is trying to have literally everything her own way. She can complain all she wants, but, OP is always going to be the father. If she and her wife want a "complete family," then they need to adopt, or do IVF, not drag an existing child into this mess by bringing him to a new country(Spain) and flipping his entire life upside down just for the mom's picture perfect lesbian family.
the op in the first story needs to fight to protect his son. There is a 40% chance, with each lesbian partner, that they will either hit each other, or hit the kid. This is a peer reviewed and replicated statistic, that gets more disturbing the more you drill into it.
Well said, and if that happens, and someone witnesses that, they'll contact the authories to take the kid away from the mother and her wife, return him to the US, place him in foster care, and then, with another family, though closed adoption
social trauma yeah get lawyers and go to the school and demand to be informed about every little thing about your son and make it clear he has one dad and one mom
She would get her karma
Story 2: Lauren sounds like the type of person to also be offended on behalf of another person. It's more offensive because it's saying that the other person is too stupid to understand but Lauren knows best and she'll take care of it poor marginalized person.
*LESSONS TO BE LEARNED:*
*STORY 1:* Ex and her AP are horrible, selfish people.
*STORY 2:* Coworkers are not your friends. Be weary of what you share with them
Story 1: Cheating, parental alienation, and all the similar things don't change just because of sexuality. It's sad to see how people like that just get enabled and supported through their cruel behavior.
Like, she literally wants to take away OP's son. OP needs a damn shark of a lawyer.
Story 2: Coworker got what she deserved. This isn't support, it's harassment. And it does the exact opposite of supporting LGBT+ people.
He should have dissolved or annulled the marriage instead of divorce as the vows were false.
Story 2…there is a difference between gender expression and gender identity duh
If he subaru driver comes talking shit, just tell her to step up.
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'Allies' are almost always closeted predators. No, actually she does not have good 'intentions'.
it’s first op ross geller by any chance?
The only thing I disagree with is not learning a second language, I used to hate it has a child, but once an adult it was really helpful and important and can open opportunities to other places.
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