Driving Standards In The UK! Or Lack Of!
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- We try an experimental podcast whilst stuck in traffic, essentially all about the people in traffic!
Rant rant!
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Definitely do more like this, it means you can use your time better and seems to have a natural flow to it
I’m much happier seeing you rather than hearing, facial expressions are so important! Please let’s see you as much as possible! John in Monmouth 🏴
The fact that people are allowed to park on the corners of roads in the UK is frightening. So creates really dangerous situations for other drivers. Probably find this is the reason why the speed limits are so low.
EDIT: Was following a driver who (EDIT- MIGHT of been the owner of a learner vehicle or could of been the Mechanics if it were in for a service.)
So, as they are person who should be teaching the rules of the road to others, I found their driving atrocious.
Indicating 1 or 2 seconds before they turn. Or even forgetting.
Green to Amber means FLOOR IT...
Also being a biker, I ride defensively and notice that food delivery riders don't give a damn on what they do.
Thanks for the chat.
I am an ex Driving Instructor and I got a telephone complaint from a member of the public with regard to “my” Driving. I asked where this driving occurred and when it happened.
Sorry to say I had to blow the wind out of his Sails when I informed him that on that particular day my car was in the Main Dealer for Service and he had probably witnessed the Mechanics driving standard whilst road testing my vehicle, he didn’t even apologise for his rant.
The moral of this little story is don’t assume when you see poor driving in a Driving Instructors car that it is the Instructor driving said car….
@@brianstevenson9967 Thanks, Good Point and stand corrected. Hope edit is ok
63, really enjoyed this video.
To be honest I noticed the 40 min time on this and initially thought I might be skipping it but watched it all .
Good banter let’s have a few more. 👍👍😊
I'm 29 and have gotten to that point of not getting annoyed any more and try to make things a non-event. One the routed I drive for work takes me down the A1 (M) where there are significant roadworks and one lane is closed, with a cone taper at the end, many people will sit in 10 mins of traffic whereas I drive consistently at a reasonable speed down lane 2 and merge in turn, it's such a simple thing that can save so much time by using all the road space, but rarely do you see it nowadays.
There should be more of those " Merge in turn" signs to show that you should queue in both lanes and merge in turn at the pinch point. That would stop the idiots weaving from lane to lane to block people from doing what they should be doing. In the US they have many " Zip merge" signs with a stylised zip drawing to show visually what drivers should do.
Absolutely worth it. It didn't do Bobby Llew any harm in his media career. The really deliberate dangerous behaviour seems to be entitled yoofs in cities, Bradford and Birmingham are where I always encounter this. But a general selfishness is really prevalent, from pedestrians/schoolkids who just walk wherever they like, and drivers/cyclists who just don't give a damn about any rules of the road. (Dave 70) 👨💻
Nearly spat my tea out when you talked about other things to moan about. 'Why are kids so happy' 😆
Another category of driver is those who do 35-40 in a 60, even though the road and conditions are good.
Deffo need some form of retesting. I'd also like to see some power/weight limits on licences like motorbikes have. Maybe under 80hp/ton for two years or somesuch.
I call these drivers the "40's". There's a section of road near where I live that's national limit, goes to 50mph, then to 30mph. A lot of drivers will do 40 in every section. It's laziness, if it was about safety they wouldn't be doing 40 in a 30.
I’m in my 50’s and live in a rural area. The most annoying motorists around here are invariably elderly. Most of the roads are national speed limit roads. These old folk like to drive carefully at 40-45mph yet when they enter a village where the speed drops to 30, they happily continue at their safe speed of 40-45mph
Yes definitely worth doing, always worth watching you, some voices are a pleasure, Nicen clear too! John in Monmouth
Cars are heavier now though, due to extra options, features and safety systems, so 200 bhp now, is like 100 bhp 20 years ago.
Your right, aggression up, arrogance up, common courtesy diminished, entitlement up, chances
Of detection almost zero.
Driving standards will not improve until we have a police service to enforce the laws that already exist. You never see any police about much now, in the 1970s and 1980s they enforced the laws much more often - 63 I’ll say no more
We certainly pay for a police service, so not sure where they are
Driving Ohm? More like Driving Moan! 😆 would happily watch more of these.
Sound was perfectly acceptable. As you say, probably don't do all of them like this, but certainly for an occasional one here and there, it's totally fine.
Really enjoyed that - definitely do more (please)
I've done too many daft things in my cars as a teenager/20 something's. Now 60 and I'm the complete opposite as a driver. You mentioned those who tilt there seat back, I had a mini where I could drive from the back seat or head through the sunroof. Driving from the passenger seat on my Vauxhall cavalier, that was a feat I saw no one else try. The good old days. 😂😂😂😂
Its a definite change in attitude since COVID. As a business owner and someone who is also customer facing Ive noticed a massive shift in peoples attitude. Theres much less empathy outhere and an increase of the selfish behaviours. The whole 'I am not wrong' and the 'its all about me' to the 'f**k them and you' and the 'I must win regardless' attitude has gone through the roof. since COVID.
Me and my staff have noticed a big difference from pre to post COVID. To add fuel onto the fire, theres also been a ton of measures introduced that has affected most of us from a financial point of view which has added so much more stress onto the fabric of the day to day.
Driving is a minefield these days. We've got headup-displays telling us what to do and to mind our speed with added bongs if we dont pay respond, a boat load of new road signs pinned to anything thats upright. Average speed cameras, new Ai cameras. Camera Vans, cyclists with right of way and then we're expected to actually look straight ahead too. No wonder we're all going mad!
Excellent and enjoyed the "on the move" podcast.
And yes standard of drivinf is slipping. Driving at 60 or less in tzevmiddle lane. Enteringba motorway and immediatly moveing across to tuevmidfle or outside lane. Undertaking over taking weavong in and out. Coukd go on. 69 years old learnt to drive at 24, ciukd not afford it before then.
Do you think it has anything to do with modern cars being more safe, that gives people that "I'm immortal" driving attitude? Air bags, side impact protection, ABS, stability control, traction control, etc?
i do like this extra way of doing it
Just the film I have been looking for. Down here in Devon the standards are horrendous. No indication, cutting roundabouts, more phone use, lane hogging- still. It is really bad.
I'm 54 and as always love your video guys. In the car or out always good and the noise wasn't too bad really, nice change as well. Keep hoping you may do another one of your fantastic tours such as your famous EVM-PENIS-610. :)
So let me get this straight. This is a Driving Ohm podcast, whilst you're Driving Ohm, whilst Driving Ohm the point that there are some really shocking drivers on the roads these days. Sound about right?
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Harry and Andy, great podcast as usual. I listened while on a long , long drive and agreed with everything, I think it is an age thing as a general lack of manners drives me crazy. The road noise from yours was okay, but as just one of 5 podcasts I listened to on the drive, yours was the only one where the volume had to at full on my phone and was still a little quiet. Is there anything you can do at the upload point to increase the volume for future episodes. E.g. listen to Bjorn Nyland and his are at a louder volume than yours. Again, an age thing I expect,.
The young lads remove the seat frame which lowers them making their eyes level with the bottom of the side window . 😂
I turn 65 at the weekend. You two were my irritating little sh!ts! 😂🤣😂
This new nasty attitude must have something to do with the Covid lockdowns surely? Its like everyone was so stressed that they're just letting it all out niw and takung it out on everybody. There's more nastiness in the comments sections too and the more I advocate for kindness and consideration the more rude and bullying they get!
Great therapy, i enjoyed it lads. 👍👏
Edit: your descriptions of younger people at the end were an eye opener, I had no idea!
Its older drivers that I feel I've seen the worst driving from in the last few years, 50+ men who seem to not give damn about driving safely and always seem to be in a rush.
P.s Regarding the sound, it sounds good enough to me however f you want to clean up the audio for car podcasts, Adobe Podcast AI does a good job, I think the feature is built into premiere as well, other editing software has similar AI voice isolation as well.
I've noticed over the last 5 years, less and less people indicating around roundabouts. Nobody seems to give a crap anymore. I followed "red runner" today. Nutters.
In in cz, and perhaps in other EU countries no one (not even in test use indicators on roundabouts), the round a bouts are very new (10 years or less here), and indicating seems to confuse people. So perhaps you have a lot of deveoped world, non roundabout new drivers ?
@@ndudman8 maybe…
Age 71. Lots of reading, IAM, courses under my belt and my job requires an assessment every 2 years (and I'm always top of the team of 20!) Big-headed? Probably, but I take real pride in my driving and always have. No slouch either.
Also spent some time in countries where you just fill the road, not been to Bradford tho!
Passed in the eightes ... terrible driving is nothing new but the increase in motor vehicles has definitely changed things. I live in the Black country and your description of Bradford matches. Glavanized vehicles are now lasting decades has played it's part in the number increases. Changes in the highway code over the decades have also changed things. Road speed sign improvements have left many behind. I'm sure some only find out after being put on a speed awareness course. Road policing is now a postcode lottery. the better-off areas by me get policing.... police Volvos on the motorways were a thing years ago.
Bradford is the worse place I have ever had to drive in the UK. The one manouvre that I could not belive was a car passing a line of cars at traffic lights then turning left while the lights were still at red. This happened on almost a daily basis on Cemertry road.
fiat panda 1.1 I think was my first car an I thrashed it everywhere 😆
I had a 1.4 Honda Jazz. I was 35 when I passed.
Similar age to you guys and love the rants, speak my mind in all topics.
Road noise was sadly a little too much tho, for me.
It's a feeling of entitlement. From parking in the nearest space for disabled persons or people with young kids, when you don't qualify to do that - to jumping the queue at temporary traffic lights and just slotting yourself in front of the person at the head of the queue, usually stopped at a ridiculous angle and blindly ignoring those around you just because you think your movement is more important than anyone else. I was on the E40 near Ghent on Tuesday night. 4 lanes of traffic all moving at around 100k, wet roads and the traffic just flowed. Then this Belgian Peugeot 308 arrived, dramatically weaving between all 4 lanes, probably at 30k more than anyone else. They weren't weaving through large gaps, but gaps no more than 1.5 cars in length. One false move by anyone, or the Peugeots loss of control and there would have been a multi car pile up for no reason other than arrogance and, probably, a feeling of invincibility. The driving was that bad, I expected a police car in hot pursuit, but no.
Sound fine, I’m 70, agree with you. One problem roundabouts are getting too complicated and don’t always have the simple logical structure that used to be in the 70’s. Remember driving instructor describing them as dual carriageways that go in a circle. 🙂
In the UK we also insist on 2 lane approach to roundabouts even on single lane rds. It may ever so slightly improve traffic flow, but it brings 2 cars together on close contact, leads to straightlining roundabouts, leads to confusion about left lane or right lane when ahead is slightly past 12 o'clock etc etc. In Europe they have very few urban twin lane roundabouts.. And works better in my opinion.
Sound is great... do more like this :) Could be the amount of non british/english as well ? who simply don't seem to care. Try lifting heavy weights to increase, keep up your testosterone as you get older :)
Agree with you about shorts, avoid them like the plauge, or visit to the doctor. Give the drunken podcasts a miss :) we're all too old for it, and don't need it.
63, living in rural Australia. When I was a kid I rode my motorbike like an absolute tool. Don't know how I survived. Now, need block and tackle to throw a leg over bike 😢
62, Good chat and think the podcast is actually better with you both in the car. Perhaps a new name for the podcast though. How about Moaning Ohm?
The one thing that annoys me more than anything is the utter phobia of zip merging approaching a lane closure. Use both lanes until you can no longer use both lanes.
Oh and I'd rather drive round Bradford then through, unfortunately had to go through it yesterday for the 1st time in months and absolutely nothing has changed!
Guys, I prefer the driving format than clinical office with mics. Maybe try driving and chatting towards and at chargers, food outlets on routes etc?
I don't mind
@mrmawson2438 Wink
I was wanting to download an MP3, so was trying to download the link on acast. Is this podcast still being updated on there? For me the link seems to contain quite old editions and nothing recent. Am I missing something...?
Just on UA-cam.
@@drivingohm
Thanks for that. I'll stop trying to get the "Podcasts" link on your website working then...
With modern network and wifi technology, surely it’s much easier and simpler to have red light cameras on EVERY traffic light by default?
My first car was a 1.4 Renault 5 with (theoretically) 60bhp
My pet peeve is drivers who move out to overtake and then hit their personal speed limit - usually well under the speed-limit in force at the time - which also happens to be no more than 1mph faster than the person they’re overtaking, leading to a frustrating wait for the cars behind as the driver takes minutes over a manoeuvre that should be completed in seconds. If you’re not happy going at least 5mph faster than the vehicle you wish to overtake, you should perhaps reconsider and just stay in your lane.
yet defo prefer the driving podcast ❤
Undertaking:- in most of the USA it’s legal. Using hard shoulder at peak traffic is also legal on most American highways, so why not here? I do find driving an ev other younger road users in wheezy powered cars try to overtake me thinking, YES! I’ve taken an EV! 57.
Watched 2 car loads of ‘tourists’ park on the exit from a local dual carriageway so they could have a drink and take some selfies last weekend.
I think younger drivers have it hard these days and I'm not convinced by the idea of a Black Box, especially as I'm not sure how they would reliably know the speed limit.
I regularly drive on a road where it's a National Speed Limit road but in Google's imagination it's a 40mph speed limit. I've checked a few times and there is no sign of a 40 mph speed limit sign and it's not the only time Google has got it wrong. Not a problem for me but I imagine a black box would take a dim view if it relied on Google's dodgy data and thought (wrongly) that I was driving at 50+mph in a 40 limit.
Below 25, I agree.
For me the entitlement drivers are usually in an Audi, Mercedes, BMW and Tesla. These are both eV and dinosaur juice vehicles for the German car owners. The younger drivers are not looking and just point the car in the direction they wish to go. 😅
Living in the sw theres hardly any police except for the usual tourist/xmas campaign drive. However the police do use alot of covert enforcement such as hidden cameras, drones and public dashcam "referrals".
Gotta admit though when travelling north to family there is a palpable change in speed/aggressive on the m1/a1 once you get 5 miles south of leeds northbound. Maybe its something in the yorkshire water.
Any car noise was so far in the background it wasn't really noticeable.
And big up to the Houmous massive - I also call that stuff "posh" and it really is delicious
Age 60+
66, nothing is different in Canada. Additional tests would do nothing except raise the price of your license.
Additional tests wont change those who drive without insurance and even a license (banned) and its only sensible safe drivers who will have to pay
50btw and still astonished how bad some people drive
there are plenty motorists reported and prosecuted with dashcam footage from public.
I’m 27 and I think older people are much worse drivers they are incapable of sticking to a speed. This is especially bad on motways one min there going 60 then 50 then 70 and back to 50. This causes aggressive over taking I also like the in car podcast you have done
Question:- how do you guys find ‘giving way’ now to pedestrians at corners, junctions etc under the new Highway Code rule? I find the pedestrians are confused and don’t want to move first
From what I’ve seen, no one seems to bother with the new rule. When I’m a pedestrian, I don’t expect cars to stop for me. I don’t even use zebra crossings. Poorly thought out laws never succeed
Every issue mentioned is rampant in Denmark as well. I'm 40ish and those things were also rampant when I got my license at age 18. One of the issues is there are more cars and its 1 in 4 doing willfully dumb acts and with more cars its seen more often but the ratio has always been the same.
What you can do with these rants videos is get some dashcam footage pointing it out running in a smaller frame, not that we don't get it cause any one over 3 have seen every thing mentioned 5 billion times.
Noise is not at all an issue.
“We digress” you don’t say? 😂
All good lads
27:33 🤣 true!
You think the UK is bad, I was in Italy a few weeks ago. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is so impatient. The whole country is in a rush to get to A&E on a moped.
That's just very italian, is all
Higher insurance is part of the big picture to price cars out of reach, and push people onto ECO bikes, feet of the cattle cars, sorry I mean public transport. I like cars :)
I suspect our (yours and my) perception of the fall in the standard of driving is in some measure a reflection of motor vehicle advertising and motoring journalism. The modern car, even a base model is a high performance vehicle compared to the vehicles you and I began our driving careers in. (Hillman Minx 0-60 eventually). Cross ply tyres and unassisted drum brakes all round didn't tempt you to take too many chances. The worst offenders in the poor behaviour stakes seem to be the drivers of 1 series BMW's followed by all other models of BMW! Indicators, What are they? A favourite trick around where I live is to indicate as you start the manoeuvre, where if you are at all observant you will notice which way the front wheels are facing. The other favourite trick of certain classes of vehicle when joining a motorway is the sweeping manoeuvre from the sliproad to lane 3 or 4 and simillarly having been travelling in lane 3 or 4 at 90ish is the same maneouvre to exit the motorway judging it so finely as to just clip the the cross hatching as the sliproad departs the main carriageway. Good idea the driving ohm podcast as you drive home. Not too often as you might draw the attention of the countries remaining traffic policeman
I don't mind the audio quality, it was good enough. As for the driving standards, you might just be seeing all of us Americans who have escaped the US and just don't understand that in the UK the standards are expected to be better. It has always been bad here, but you know many of them have migrated.
I recently went on a speed awareness course,90 percent were over 50,most were over 60 plus.
one course proves nothing I went on one and most were 30-50 and most thought they were being punished for nothing
@@SNORKYMEDIA your right,proves nothing.
Speeding in built-up areas needs to become as antisocial as drink driving. A 7 year old boy was killed near us recently by someone speeding along a side road.
Yes , good , more .
What annoys me most is people pulling out from a side road 20m ahead of you when you are doing 60mph, and if you flash or toot, YOU are in the wrong for daring to complain and get abuse. Why? 58yo
Lack of deterrent, and no one has any pride in their driving. Have driven in Europe a lot this yr, we have far more aggression on the road.. I hate pre judgement but White mercs black roofs around our way, seem predictably aggressive.
Everyone is a shit driver except me 😂
well and me :), just us 2
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Driving with driving noises; i for one am offended
Hello guys
Why are taxi drivers,who transport the public,such atrocious drivers.
Arn't alot of these driven by non natives ?
Age 46. Background noise was fine.
Solution is Tesla’s FSD when all vehicles have adopted their licensed tech! Take out the car controls will only be the way road etiquette and laws will be followed. 57
Do you feel, as EV drivers, that you are more relaxed behind the wheel? I certainly think I am, much less stressful than driving an ICE car in my opinion. (66)
41:06 'cho-ri-zo' 🙄
Dacia sandero stepway 90hp 😬
Probably 150% of the weight tho
more of this
Driving is as bad, the cars they are doing it in are much wider (as is yours) so there is less room for f ups so it feels more dangerous.
Also submit your dashcam footage to the police and they have an online portal you can get people done for things like the skip & pull
You say insurance is silly bit it was £1k for you 20years ago so inflation means it should be over £2k..
Im 24 and agree there plenty of idiot drivers
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As a cyclist (sorry) local police seem to take video evidence easier now and apparently you have the right to anonymity says the rac
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Driving noise is OK with me, adds a little life to the video