Still think cats can't sail up wind like a mono??
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- We are sailing out of the Azores to Europe in the might Paikea. Unfortunately we have to do quite a bit of sailing up wind on this trip, but it is great to see how we are going. We passed lots of leaning over boats in the process proving that a well set up cat is faster up wind as well as down wind.
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Great blog......however you are a Cantana peformance cat with decent sails, carbon rotating mast and experienced racing sailor, your video shows cruising Beneteau / Jeaneau, not deep keel, dacron sails and not a very well trimmed main !! Great blog and thank you for checking my rig in Olbia in October 2018.
A few years ago I watched a fully loaded lagoon forty something outside a bunch of monos upwind. He tacked on all the right shifts and favoured the correct side. Talking to him later he was a sailmakers/pro sailor and he had made all the sails and clearly he was a very good sailor. All of the monos had terrible Dacron sails with the intended shape being just a distant memory. Most of the sailors wouldn't have known a windshift if it happened in their underpants. Your video is of course independent of shifts and a pretty fair comparison. Though your boat used to be a Catana it's something else now, with 3di sails, much stiffening & lightening and carbon spars & longeron. If a production performance mono had the same attention I suspect it's performance would improve radically also. I just replaced my old woven Dacron/Spectra sails on my mono with carbon technora membrane sails in addition to stiffening and lightening the old aluminium rig. We now tack through 90⁰ including leeway in flat water as opposed to 100⁰ before. Even in my mono when I sail it at 17.5 tons instead of 19, the performance is considerably and noticeably better.
Nice, so fun when you get the chance to square off with another sailboat! We’ve just sailed 4,000nm in the last 8 weeks and not once did we get the opportunity to “race”another boat like this going the same direction 😎
oh yeah! see another boat and it's race on!
I love multihulls but if I wanted to sail around cape horn or the northern sea would feel much, much safer on a monohull. Same if I got hit with over 40 knot winds. Or wanted a boat that was built strong enough to pass to my kids. There's no perfect boat, there's a perfect boat for what you want (and can afford). Everything's a trade off.
Agreed. Would definitely not do any high latitude stuff on Paikea. You need to know what you want first before you can find your own perfect boat
Nice to see that NZ Ensign fly. I agree that in most cases a cat can sail to the Wind as well as most boats.
We have very similar numbers on our cat as this. 8+ knots bs with 19 knots TWS at 50 degrees true. We have a few feet more water line though. 😁😁😁😁
Love your channel. I have a Seawind 1160 and have just sold a Sydney 38. The mono's target height and speed for that pressure is 38 degrees true @ 7.1 knots. Bit different to 50+ true...
Having daggerboards and good sails makes all the difference. And probably you should be comparing cruising boats rather than deep keel racer/cruisers to be fair
Pointing is great, if you are trying to get up and over some obstacle without tacking. Otherwise the most important thing is how fast your boat can get to a location upwind of you, and the best measurement of that is VMG upwind. When is the last time you saw a big fat cruising boat tacking up a channel?
The monohull design and the experience of the person sailing it would be major contributing factors I suppose?
of course. There are a million factors at play. Just myth busting that a mono will always outperform a multi upwind
All I've got to say is that comparing blue water monos to cruising/charter cats is folly. If you put good sails on a Lagoon or a Leopard, like adding a code 0 even, and its game over. Include all of the fun gear you want aboard and the weight alone will handicap the monos badly.
so you can sail approx 48 deg to the true wind? We were out on our pescott 35' cat on Pittwater yesterday-- a 47 mono was holding us off in 15-16 knots of wind which was annoying but we were actually pointing slightly higher we were doing 7-8 knots-- I now want a bigger headsail!
What did you have going on with your daggerboards when doing this? One all the way down, both, mix...? Thanks for sharing.
Both down, full grip😉
At what true wind angle can your boat sail to?? The proof is in the numbers'
Pudding is for dessert!
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45 to 47 depending on the waves. Tacking through 90 is our target angle
Yours is a bit trick , 😎
experence tells
comparing your cat with a much shorter loa monohull may proove your point but the comparison is certainly flawed mate
Same size boat mate
Still think alot of info provided on the net is from 10 year olds and turned into profit by 50 year olds