Joker's Moveset Origin | (Smash x Persona 5)

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  • @Sean-D78
    @Sean-D78 4 роки тому +2614

    Joker's ability to walk is a reference to Persona 5 where the characters have the ability to walk

    • @coolerghiaccio5905
      @coolerghiaccio5905 4 роки тому +129

      Not unlike Johnny Joestar from the hit manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure : Steel Ball Run

    • @Sean-D78
      @Sean-D78 4 роки тому +9

      I wish I could read Part 6 to 8 ;-;

    • @thebemisman1605
      @thebemisman1605 4 роки тому +4

      WOW REALLY

    • @thesupercrook
      @thesupercrook 4 роки тому +11

      damn you really look for the smallest secrets huh

    • @strawhat5290
      @strawhat5290 4 роки тому +4

      WAIT REALLY well you learn something new everyday

  • @DudeinaCanoe
    @DudeinaCanoe 5 років тому +1835

    Honestly you can tell Sakurai really put his heart and thoughts into Joker. And honestly the victory screen is the near exactly alike

    • @RandomPerson-kz9uf
      @RandomPerson-kz9uf 4 роки тому +59

      The only non existent difference (aside from the art style) i can see is the smash Joker is standing up slightly higher. Its barely seeable. I had to reeeaaaaalllllllyyyyyyy look close to see it.
      (Edit: okay, upon even closer inspection, its just the model is just closer to the camera in general--)

    • @DudeinaCanoe
      @DudeinaCanoe 4 роки тому +25

      @@RandomPerson-kz9uf well my point is that it just really shows the respect Sakurai has for the games represented in smash

    • @RandomPerson-kz9uf
      @RandomPerson-kz9uf 4 роки тому +5

      @@DudeinaCanoe yeah i got your point. I just said that to show just how on point Sakurai made it :)

    • @ahmadkazan7994
      @ahmadkazan7994 4 роки тому +1

      Wish he did thes ame for the bigger sega represintative.

    • @-cartythecart-4627
      @-cartythecart-4627 4 роки тому

      Sam with the final smash

  • @celestialstarsilver
    @celestialstarsilver 4 роки тому +754

    "light curse damage"
    *1048*

    • @persoonophetweb2891
      @persoonophetweb2891 4 роки тому +32

      because that arsene was lvl 99 and the enemy was weak to curse

    • @milesshaw9059
      @milesshaw9059 4 роки тому +37

      Probably was also playing on Merciless (where if a weakness was triggered, it does massive damage)

    • @adaalonso
      @adaalonso 4 роки тому +7

      He has level 99, probably high stats, passive that boost curses, and in merciless. You can search builds for Arsène, Yoshitaune, Satanael, Maria... Where there are traits and pasives that makes them OP

  • @FirstTricky
    @FirstTricky 4 роки тому +382

    When he does not have Arsene Summomed, it looks more like he's using a Curse damage Item instead of Eiha, because of the finger snap that he does when he uses an Item in battle.

    • @andyurban6997
      @andyurban6997 4 роки тому +55

      Wait actually yeah this makes a lot of sense

    • @tomasvillarreal9449
      @tomasvillarreal9449 4 роки тому +28

      Yeah it was intentional to reference that.

    • @oscarteaa
      @oscarteaa 2 роки тому +5

      How did I barley find out about this?

    • @SuperFm101
      @SuperFm101 Рік тому +1

      Well spotted like the curse maga Tama

  • @manuelx379
    @manuelx379 5 років тому +609

    5:58 nice transition there

  • @jimariothephantomderp7947
    @jimariothephantomderp7947 5 років тому +1152

    Joker: MORE MOOORE!!!!.
    is he a masochist?

    • @Raiken132
      @Raiken132 4 роки тому +127

      Tae Takemi: Yes, he is.

    • @mudaora2063
      @mudaora2063 4 роки тому +19

      Wasn't that Akechi voice ?

    • @RandomPerson-kz9uf
      @RandomPerson-kz9uf 4 роки тому +19

      @@mudaora2063 nope

    • @tyer6496
      @tyer6496 4 роки тому +11

      *japanese kylo intensifies*

    • @art-cs6us
      @art-cs6us 4 роки тому +15

      I mean, he can go date sadist Haru or Ann's whole sadist getup

  • @Ashrasaurus
    @Ashrasaurus 5 років тому +594

    For wings of rebellion it could also be when arsone flies up in the opening

    • @valllllleeeeeeerrrrriiiee
      @valllllleeeeeeerrrrriiiee 4 роки тому +34

      It could also be he has wings and wings are associated with flying.

    • @Archetype_Angel
      @Archetype_Angel 4 роки тому +6

      It's not "arsone", it's arceus.
      /Sarcasm.

    • @Anorey
      @Anorey 4 роки тому +5

      ah yes my favorite pokemon: arsone!

    • @Bestjokermain
      @Bestjokermain 4 роки тому +1

      No it's for when in the I am thou speech it's says wings of rebellion

    • @XPastaCatX
      @XPastaCatX 4 роки тому

      It’s pelt arsene btw

  • @snakeusa7885
    @snakeusa7885 4 роки тому +412

    Challenge: Beat the Reaper with the Smash Bros moveset.

    • @eduardomunoz4387
      @eduardomunoz4387 4 роки тому +54

      You mean with only the basic Gun, Eiha, Eigaon, Tetrakarn, Makarakarn, the All-Out Attack and basic knife

    • @Digidevikai
      @Digidevikai 4 роки тому +37

      You can never forget Gun special

    • @lucrativelucas2655
      @lucrativelucas2655 4 роки тому +10

      eduardo muñoz And Gun special and Melee attacks and Guard

    • @taeveonbarnett4004
      @taeveonbarnett4004 4 роки тому +9

      Flu season:BET

    • @sonicspeed3056
      @sonicspeed3056 3 роки тому +3

      Aight

  • @H05H1_STAR
    @H05H1_STAR 4 роки тому +341

    No one:
    Igor in the intro: *Very well, lettuce begin.*

    • @Anorey
      @Anorey 4 роки тому +17

      I prefer cabbages

    • @IDFK7477
      @IDFK7477 4 роки тому +7

      5:26

    • @Ceelo_8
      @Ceelo_8 4 роки тому +2

      @@Anorey don't take the cabbage man's cabbages

    • @likithsolasa
      @likithsolasa 4 роки тому

      Vailix he’s referring to adachi if that’s not what cabbage man means

  • @agate865
    @agate865 5 років тому +376

    His grappling hook is now revealed to be in the upcoming Persona 5 The Royal!

    • @sharidanle4361
      @sharidanle4361 5 років тому +35

      Agate he always had the grappling hook in the original game for the PS4 in the game’s loading screens as a transition the assumption that smash gave him the grappling hook is incorrect.

    • @agate865
      @agate865 5 років тому +17

      Solstice Trinité yeah, but I’m not saying it’s finally being in a Persona game, just saying that it’s in there

    • @Viperust
      @Viperust 5 років тому +4

      *sMaSh DiD iT fIrSt*

    • @manga7780
      @manga7780 5 років тому +5

      Nope its already a thing in persona 5 in the menu

    • @pixellego4773
      @pixellego4773 4 роки тому

      Manga ? He was just saying it was in p5r

  • @NiladonGrey
    @NiladonGrey 4 роки тому +133

    Rebels guard could also be the animation joker does by gripping his mask when using a persona

    • @grongolawless1396
      @grongolawless1396 4 роки тому +13

      NiladonTheHalfSaiyan I was thinking something like that, but also concentrate/charge as rebels guard makes him deal more damage with Arsene

    • @vinny4765
      @vinny4765 4 роки тому +8

      Exactly this. It definitely reminds me of the opening cutscene where he rips off his mask to summon Arsene.

  • @challengeaccepted5613
    @challengeaccepted5613 4 роки тому +100

    Arsene in cutscenes: part 3 jotaro
    arsene in game : part 6 jotaro

    • @Ok-vx7cb
      @Ok-vx7cb 3 роки тому +2

      So Orpheus is Jonathan and Izanagi is Giorno?

    • @garaglia_
      @garaglia_ 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ok-vx7cb i mean door-kun also is a kind-hearted blue-haired guy who sacrifies himself
      to me it seems close enough

    • @Ok-vx7cb
      @Ok-vx7cb 3 роки тому

      @@garaglia_ And now im thiking who would be best JoJo for Joker. He is not Josuke or Guppy and not Jolyne or Johnny. Hmmmmmm

    • @BlooperStupid
      @BlooperStupid 3 роки тому

      @@Ok-vx7cb Joseph probably

    • @Ok-vx7cb
      @Ok-vx7cb 3 роки тому

      @@BlooperStupid hmmm maybe but Akira is nothing like Joseph in my opinion

  • @garrettmarzo7858
    @garrettmarzo7858 4 роки тому +286

    Y'know, Joker having prologue Arsene here makes sense. Canon Arsene here has Brave Blade, which is Colossal Physical damage.
    *Sounds about right*

    • @benjamincortes9409
      @benjamincortes9409 4 роки тому +12

      Now that you mention it, i would love to see brave blade being a real move in the game

    • @itsgenguy7275
      @itsgenguy7275 4 роки тому +15

      @@benjamincortes9409 He does. It's called F Smash

  • @ozmaozmaozmaozma
    @ozmaozmaozmaozma 5 років тому +142

    I think the Rebellion Gauge is a reference to the Phan-Site bar from the loading screens in the game. It especially looks like it when it bursts during the final show down.

    • @redmanfatboi1163
      @redmanfatboi1163 4 роки тому +15

      The Rebellion gauge shows the gathering of Sp (part of the in-game fight bars. After joker has gathered all sp He summons arsene and then his bar turns blue representing is hp like.(If you didnt know most physical and gun persona skills costs hp) but smash just made it a time limit and made all magic physical and gun attacks hp bar wise.

    • @leon-np2xo
      @leon-np2xo 4 роки тому +4

      Good on you for not spoiling anything

  • @Coolboy_3323
    @Coolboy_3323 4 роки тому +9

    The little sound effects and extra joker voice lines really made it very enjoyable to watch. Thanks phantom

  • @freshbazuble
    @freshbazuble 4 роки тому +32

    rebels guard is more inspired by jokers stance when summoning his persona

  • @zachthewack6547
    @zachthewack6547 5 років тому +172

    My favorite move is victory screen.

  • @k7r595
    @k7r595 5 років тому +70

    Fact you educating smash players

    • @wanton47
      @wanton47 2 роки тому

      Speaking of things only smash players see, does futaba ever say "time for an all out attack"? I feel like that line is exclusive to smash. When playing p5 the closest thing I've ever gotten was "all out attack"

  • @shitposter6690
    @shitposter6690 4 роки тому +12

    0:42 and for his neutral special he welds a gun

  • @antiawarenessawarenessclub
    @antiawarenessawarenessclub 4 роки тому +8

    The SP and HP colours! That’s such a nice touch

  • @lil_shippou
    @lil_shippou 5 років тому +27

    I rlly liked the transitions between the both victory screens

  • @chris70341
    @chris70341 3 роки тому +2

    Haven’t seen any comments about it so I just wanna say thank you for adding those meme sounds 💀

  • @gommodore6441
    @gommodore6441 5 років тому +70

    4:11 I hear the Minecraft death sound

  • @noidea3193
    @noidea3193 4 роки тому +2

    Seeing Arsene with Eiha while he has both Almighty Boost and Amp?
    *I feel like my skeleton has exited my body.*

  • @Alibaba-id1cs
    @Alibaba-id1cs 5 років тому +63

    Origins of P5 Joker to smash: Starts with GUN
    This guy’s a man of culture

  • @5StarsIsHungry
    @5StarsIsHungry 5 років тому +30

    Dude this is a mega underrated channel!

    • @5StarsIsHungry
      @5StarsIsHungry 5 років тому

      Phantom I gotcha fam 👌

    • @CloudBomb3r
      @CloudBomb3r 5 років тому

      @@TrueXTrickster i before e, except after c

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 5 років тому

      stupid...

    • @redfruit3494
      @redfruit3494 5 років тому

      Lucky .?. hmmm??

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 5 років тому

      @@redfruit3494 It's stupid, how every dumb is using the "underrated" for everything they see.
      Like "oh, that shit is very underrated"

  • @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989
    @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989 4 роки тому +4

    TBH, this guy knows quite a bit more than some others I've seen covering Jokers Smash moveset. There haven't been many on YT who realised Gun special is Down Shot. Not many videos exist anyway

    • @squirtleislife1312
      @squirtleislife1312 4 роки тому +3

      I mean technically speaking that's just an interpretation, but an interesting one nonetheless

  • @1wiz1
    @1wiz1 5 років тому +7

    Splendid end transition !
    Love it 👌👍

  • @SuperGamerGuy64644
    @SuperGamerGuy64644 4 роки тому +11

    Wings of Rebellion references Arsene flying in the opening instead of Joker's awakening

    • @SuperGamerGuy64644
      @SuperGamerGuy64644 4 роки тому

      @@MonoAki the awakening has no reference to it the only other refrence it has is for new confidants

  • @DiamondSword1
    @DiamondSword1 3 роки тому +2

    Rebel's Guard in Smash Bros. Ultimate is a reference to how Joker and the Phantom Thieves are rebels in Persona 5. Now, if you look closely at the footage, you can see Joker has the ability to guard. While being a rebel. And that's where they got their inspiration.

  • @aika1313
    @aika1313 4 роки тому +3

    Eiha's animation in Smash may be a reference to when Joker uses an item in Persona 5.

  • @jwill5223
    @jwill5223 4 роки тому +3

    Rebels Guard is the point before joker awakens arsene for the first time. The rebellion gauge does not exist in Persona 5, but is rather the point that led up to joker accepting his rebellion and awakening Arsene when Ryuji was in trouble.

  • @drewfalc2097
    @drewfalc2097 4 роки тому +3

    This was so informative and hilarious I just got into persona and I wanna give joker a try now

  • @HakumeiTenshi
    @HakumeiTenshi 4 роки тому +5

    I'm pretty sure Rebel's guard is a reference to the [spoiler] fight when Joker is left at 1 hp without getting knocked out near the end of the game

  • @ああ-x4r9i
    @ああ-x4r9i 4 роки тому +9

    5:36唐突な目力先輩で草

  • @cyanalternation4237
    @cyanalternation4237 4 роки тому +5

    I hope they'll keep persona outfits in Persona 6 just minus they mask since that summons the persona.

  • @didyouactuallyexpectaname7438
    @didyouactuallyexpectaname7438 2 роки тому

    Ngl, that transition at the end with the win screen was kinda cool.

  • @sgtmorfokiller7230
    @sgtmorfokiller7230 4 роки тому +2

    Rebel's guard seems to me like the "absorb" passive ability with extra steps.

  • @airank3861
    @airank3861 4 роки тому +2

    "Gun"
    origin: Joker has a gun

  • @amitaish1055
    @amitaish1055 4 роки тому

    I love this editing too much

  • @seven8703
    @seven8703 4 роки тому +2

    Nice editing, It made me laugh alot

  • @unoriginal1086
    @unoriginal1086 4 роки тому +2

    canon: super smash bros is in the metaverse

    • @bonnjust4001
      @bonnjust4001 4 роки тому +1

      Well, its all happening in a kids imagination, so the kids palace was just smash lol.

  • @C1audin
    @C1audin 5 років тому +4

    I’m your 200th sub! Congrats bro!

    • @username15th
      @username15th 4 роки тому

      @@TrueXTrickster wow I was just watching your earlier vids and this is so true. 20k subs Phantom! Congratulations

  • @trinityzero
    @trinityzero 5 років тому +7

    grappling hook was in one of the menus

  • @NVS_Snake
    @NVS_Snake 4 роки тому +3

    5:54 love the transition

  • @巧妙岳
    @巧妙岳 4 роки тому +13

    米版のジョーカーも声かっこいいやんけぇ!!!!!

  • @BuruKyu
    @BuruKyu 3 роки тому +1

    Why is english joker a lot edgier? Like, it just sounds like a kid's sonic fanfic oc

  • @Lemacing
    @Lemacing Рік тому

    Rebels guard reminds me a lot of the animation that plays when joker triggers his showtime

  • @azophi
    @azophi 4 роки тому +3

    Tip:
    Use gun for enemies who are weak to gun

  • @arsenesoir
    @arsenesoir 4 роки тому +6

    Phantom is going to beat the crap out of everyone with Joker in Smash.

  • @kittenpower9017
    @kittenpower9017 4 роки тому +2

    I like to think rebels guard could've been a reference to rebels vanguard in pq2

  • @Tshyld
    @Tshyld 4 роки тому +3

    Oooh, Looking cool Joker!

  • @imquittingyoutubeforgood6964
    @imquittingyoutubeforgood6964 5 років тому +7

    5:27 Looking Cool, Joker

  • @diegito49
    @diegito49 4 роки тому

    It was missing to show the up b when Joker does not have Arcens who throws a thread up to hang from the shore, that was not shown as it is in the Persona 5 game

  • @maxmartinez3671
    @maxmartinez3671 4 роки тому

    Nice video. Very creative. Epic overall

  • @Jothomas214
    @Jothomas214 3 роки тому +1

    I seriously cannot FREAKIN’ believe Persona is in a kids game.
    Especially in Smash Bros.

    • @bonnjust4001
      @bonnjust4001 3 роки тому +2

      Um, Bayonetta, Metal Gear and Final Fantasy lol.

    • @Dresfvae
      @Dresfvae 3 роки тому

      Bro there’s like many mature rated games in smash. Snake and Bayonetta for example like the comment above me said

  • @itsyaboiherman
    @itsyaboiherman 4 роки тому +1

    Joker never talked this much in my playthrough....some of these lines I've never even heard before...

    • @DaYiyi28
      @DaYiyi28 3 роки тому

      custom voiced lines, xd

  • @antonioidek8614
    @antonioidek8614 4 роки тому +1

    okay but this last surprise remix slaps i'm so glad it's in the dancing game

  • @valware6796
    @valware6796 4 роки тому +1

    For his neutral special, he wields a *GUN*

  • @CruyffBarajas
    @CruyffBarajas 4 роки тому +1

    Joker's down tilt came from the original game too.

  • @StreetDzine
    @StreetDzine 4 роки тому

    Rebel's guard is more likely the reference to awakening persona and summoning afterwards as most of the Phantom Thieves awakening had moments where a blue aura knocked back their opponent when their life was in danger or their way of thought was being challenged to the brink.

  • @cutetigger1037
    @cutetigger1037 4 роки тому

    Great vid and also, 5 thousandth like!

  • @lisandermc9318
    @lisandermc9318 4 роки тому

    Love those sound effects :p

  • @emotionalguidanc3205
    @emotionalguidanc3205 4 роки тому +4

    A wwe and smash reference. Never thought I would see it.

  • @hirschmeistr6842
    @hirschmeistr6842 Рік тому

    The rebellion gauge seems more like the approval rating that goes up slightly throughout the game.

  • @er_Nioni
    @er_Nioni Рік тому

    I love how the "All-out attack" is exactly like the game

  • @gab_v250
    @gab_v250 2 роки тому

    The final transition was so smooth

  • @0m0cat
    @0m0cat 4 роки тому +3

    My friend sent me a hentai manga thingy
    And it was about joker and some girl ;-;
    They were making out SHSHSHUAJA DISGUSTANG

  • @Viperust
    @Viperust 5 років тому +4

    I love the edit on the all out attack xdd

  • @diegito49
    @diegito49 4 роки тому

    It was missing to show the up-b when Joker does not have Arcens who throws a thread up to hang from the shore, that was not shown as it is in the Persona 5 game

  • @taisakuichi5774
    @taisakuichi5774 4 роки тому +2

    *You forgot one "dabbing joker"*

  • @kratosaurion002
    @kratosaurion002 4 роки тому +1

    THAT DAMN PLUSHIE NOISE ALWAYS DESTROYS ME

  • @vinsmokeraki
    @vinsmokeraki 4 роки тому +1

    Nobody gonna mention the obvious removal of blood from enemies in the All-Out Attack, just sparkles?
    5:49

    • @citlazila
      @citlazila 4 роки тому

      Sparkles look cooler

  • @RoninOwin1738
    @RoninOwin1738 4 роки тому +1

    He did the Gun jab lock in game

  • @timothymeeks7885
    @timothymeeks7885 4 роки тому

    Joker from P5 is just pure awesome

  • @dairhat
    @dairhat 4 роки тому

    You've just earned subscriber

  • @yoshi_705
    @yoshi_705 4 роки тому

    Arsene (in eiha clip)
    Has min/maxed set
    7 buffs
    to maximise damage and minimise damage taken
    one attack
    eiha

  • @Aoun01
    @Aoun01 5 років тому

    This game is fucking art no wonder the development started in 2008.
    Fucking magnanimous bro

  • @chompbucket
    @chompbucket 4 роки тому +1

    3:26 ... ta da

  • @bucca2
    @bucca2 4 роки тому +1

    Has someone made the neutral special joke already?

  • @EthanLandwehr
    @EthanLandwehr 4 роки тому

    When your light Curse attacks are doing over 1,000 damage:

  • @MintyFreshVA
    @MintyFreshVA 4 роки тому

    I'm made that this joker looks more detailed then p5 original joker but it makes sense since that's from the ps3 era

    • @TrueXTrickster
      @TrueXTrickster  4 роки тому +1

      That's typically what you'd expect someone to look with Smash's art style

  • @tutterthemouse152
    @tutterthemouse152 4 роки тому

    nice editing

  • @sculptureofsound2
    @sculptureofsound2 5 років тому +2

    you should have way more subs 💯👌

  • @Diamoondust
    @Diamoondust 5 років тому +1

    Rebel's Guard is a mix of Guard and Awakening from P5

  • @jsrhedgehog9981
    @jsrhedgehog9981 4 роки тому

    I'd say his gunshot animation is more based off of his downshot techique aswell as the team up gun attacks. And His rebel's guard also looks more like his persona change animation.

  • @quadc0014
    @quadc0014 3 роки тому

    his dtilt might be based of the slide he does under the lasers in the 2nd palace

    • @Dresfvae
      @Dresfvae 3 роки тому

      It is since that the only time you slide

  • @kuraio3017
    @kuraio3017 4 роки тому

    That transition with the victory screens at the end. 🥵

  • @That1GoldenBoi
    @That1GoldenBoi 4 роки тому

    Imagine if persona 5 ever gets ported to switch they use the smash model

  • @orpheus9098
    @orpheus9098 4 роки тому

    I like how the smash version of the victory has better graphics than the original

  • @Ming_7322
    @Ming_7322 3 роки тому

    Joker’s voice lines are the essence of voice acting.

  • @diegito49
    @diegito49 4 роки тому

    Faltó mostrar el Up-B cuando Joker no tiene a Arcens que lanza un hilo hacia arriba para colgarse de la orilla , ese no lo mostraron como es en el juego de Persona 5

  • @kagexice7679
    @kagexice7679 4 роки тому

    Joker is so freaking polished

  • @sora_sonic9559
    @sora_sonic9559 4 роки тому +1

    What is tis song

  • @5oulpoint
    @5oulpoint 5 років тому +1

    all those ability amps just for some measly eiha

    • @seaweed7640
      @seaweed7640 5 років тому

      This is the megadolaon build, it has almight boost and amp, he made a back up save and replaced megidolaon with eiha for this vid

  • @ronhorton395
    @ronhorton395 4 роки тому

    I feel now that P5R is out the ending could be rebels guard against ******

  • @kevinchenr
    @kevinchenr 4 роки тому

    Lol the WWE RAW replay thingy

  • @butterman59
    @butterman59 4 роки тому

    Idk the rebellion gauge reminds me more of the approval meter personally

  • @soulmantis4627
    @soulmantis4627 4 роки тому

    why are only the specials from actual persona 5 there's a 123 jab move in persona 5 but they gave him mii sword fighter jab???