Why did Barcelona pay the Head of Referees?
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Barcelona are in hot water, again. This time for alleged payments to a company owned by a former La Liga referee for insider knowledge on how to manipulate referees.
Why did Barcelona do this? Is this illegal? What are the repercussions?
Pol Ballus & Laia Cervello Herrero explain, Craig Silcock illustrates.
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This was a good move rather than paying 135 million euros for continuo
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Barcelona should be banned from football altogher. Plain and simple. Never forget that UCL semi-final VS Chelsea. They bribed the referee to win that game.
Real Madrid vs Bayern 2017, so madrid should be banned too right?
Madrid represent spain Politically & Economically... They get Protection from spanish govt by default... 70% of the referee works in favour of them... Even in 2024 Reff apologised... Instead of reading headline go do some research what actually happened...
The only thing I'm curious about is how this scandal will compare to Calciopoli when it's all said and done.
Calciopoli, ALL of the big clubs, Milan, Juve, Inter, Lazio, Fiorentina, etc, did NOT pay referees. They selected referees that would decide favorably for their matches. Moggi was recorded calling refs. So was the staffer on behalf of Gallaini for Milan. So was MORRATTI. But all of the rivals were punished except for Inter; why? TELECOM ITALIA Shareholder was on the board of Inter Milan. All of its enemies were punished and Inter with Billionaire Morratti who could not buy a Scudetto despite being top spender was given a competitive advantage by having a monopoly over the transfer market.
This is no where near the level of that scandal
@@tonytellingitlikeitis5708 hope your victimhood shines through again with the capital gains case, and the salaries under the table aka fraud. No morratti to hide behind now😂
@@Crispy_DAWG yet
So the only thing you're curious about is the conclusion of everything. Picky.
"Ok so i gave them a bunch of money but i didn't know who i was giving it to! I thought i was just giving it to some guy who happened to be the son of the referee boss. I don't even know why i was giving money! Maybe for some sort of analysis, i don't know! 😅
If this is Just a Report. Why would you hiere some one with the Power to Influenz?
It IS either Insider Trading or corruption.
Because Public information could have been complied by many other Independent experts
they were found not guilty that video has no purpose
I could write some very professional reports on referees. I'll even do it at a bargain basement £250,000 per report.
These games will no doubt be the catalyst for the final decision against Barcelona:
Barca vs Chelsea 04/05
Barca vs Arsenal 05/06
Chelsea vs Barca 08/09
Barca vs Arsenal 10/11
Madrid vs Barca 10/11
Barca vs Milan 11/12
Barca vs PSG 16/17
Mainly the ones from the Guardiola era (08-12)
Those are only in Europe, if you look at LaLiga you will find 100 more.
As I understood they paid the vice president of Spanish referees. Why should their International games be influenced by that.
@@niklas6072 vice president of CTA. it's different from RFEF. why most people confuse the two. well i dont blame you guys; even the title is poorly constructed because neigera wasnt "head of referees"
Ha. Turns out Real Madrid fans were right when they called them Uefalona!
How does uefa and laliga get in this.😂
It turns out Ronaldo fans are still clueless..... How does UEFA had anything to do with Laliga referee committee... They paid for reports ☕....Totally irrelevant...
@@Vladimirputin11111 The reports don't exist admitted by the culprit on court. In Uefa they had Senes Erzic, Vice president of refereeing who happened to be also a UNICEF project manager. Do you remember whose name appeared on the Barca jersey those days? The only sponsor you have to pay to have their name in your kit in the world
@@greventlov Culprit who...?? if UEFA supported Barca they wouldn’t have let go away with the cheating with the help of VAR....
@@Vladimirputin11111 The Culprit is Negreira, he admitted he made no reports for Barca. Second UEFA supported Barca and there are many examples, there was no VAR then, you are talking about stuff that you clearly do not know
It's funny that Barca stopped paying for these reports from the son in the exact year the father retired from his position as a referee.
Pure coincidence I'm sure
It’s funny how we’ll come out innocent anyway idiot
negreira wasnt a referee. he was the vice president of CTA. they are in-charge of relegation and promotions of referees. Barca directors claimed to have paid him for refereeing reports for the first team and also for la masia through his private company and the evidence of that has been provided.
what barca is being charged for is conflict of interest, i.e paying him when he was in an active position of influence that he would have used his influenced to favor the club in that said period of time. corruption comes in due to how the deal was uncovered as Negreira was evading Taxes and the sum of money paid to him was exorbitant over that said period of time. the aspect of sporting favors has to be proven in court inorder for barca to be persecuted and as of now, there's zero prove of sporting favors over the said period of time being charged by the persecutors.
that's the summary of the case.
@@00dude3 according to the papers, the payment ceased because of barca financials.
It was also the same year VAR was introduced in La Liga.
Bartomeu's claim that he thought he was only dealing with the son makes it look even worse. Nobody at that level of business is this naive. This is exactly the ruse you would come up with if it were your intention to commit a fraud.
It doesn't even make it better. Why would you pay the head of refereeing's son to provide intel on referees?
that man tried his best to ruin Barca when he was president
@@eoghankelly4377 He paid THE COMPANY and had dealings with the son. Did you even watch the video?
@@mhtv5959 Oh yeah, that makes it so much better, forget all about it, he was just paying the company of the vice president of the CTA not knowing that it was the company of the vice president of the CTA despite dealing directly with the son of the vice presindet, nothing weird about that!
@@mhtv5959 You're so naive and clueless, bless you
So between the various statements. Barcelona paid a referee for reports about how players should act around individual referees but the managers were unaware of such reports. Why is no one asking the players at that time if they received information and who from?
Because it's a corrupt case, so null in details while media keeps milking its concept
??? Have you been under a rock? Players have regularly spoke out against such nonsense.
And other clubs also paid for such reports
Ud have to be naive to believe they only paid for some reports 😂 That's what they're claiming because match fixing is illegal. They'd never admit to that
@@mhtv5959 what other teams have paid for such reports?
Why do professional players need a report on how to behave around referees? Just don't break the rules and you're good, it's not rocket science is it?
Pep Guardiola not knowing what these reports provided is extremely damning. If it were a legitimate report on how to adjust playing style for specific referees, that cannot possibly work with the manager out of the loop.
Same thing is happening in City, he is counting extra petrodollars in his pocket but he doesn't know it
Yeah, because his word must be true
The reports were to see if Madrid benefited from refereeing decisions. The manager really has nothing to do with that
@@GamingRobioto Valverde also said he did not know about the "reports" either
Fraudiola saying Fraudiola things.
You only have to look at the referee's decisions made in the 2009 semi final to give you all the answers you need, biggest fix in recent history.
That match was referred by a Norwegian team, if corruption is involved is not at all related with the Negreira/Spain scandal
2010 and 2011 too. ridiculous red cards but atleast Inter still managed to eliminate them in 2010. btw Mourinho called them out on this back in 2011. but like always people just bashed Mourinho but he was right.
Chelsea-Barça is the worst scandal I have seen in terms of refereeing of a match. It was a full blown disgrace, Drogba nailed it. The second one was Barça-PSG 6-1. They are both sold as great achievements by Barça fans, but they should be ashamed instead.
Bodies close to Pep Guardiola. Artetas done it again
😂😂Arteta masterclass
Arteta put the cones out at City, and that legoheaded fraud will bottle the league
@@Brandon-nq7ys Bro really thinks City will bottle the league 😂😂
@@shalinisahay8570 I meant Arsenal you airhead
@@Brandon-nq7ys Chill bro, Peps an insane manager and didn't need Arteta to win what he has at city obviously. Its obviously joke as Arteta was still playing when Pep was at Barça
Someone told me Barcelona paid him to make sure that Barcelona got no decisions in their favour 😂😂
Someone was wrong.
That someone is a big scum and fraud you know.
Not in their favour, more reduce referee decisions that would hurt Barca results. Messi era is now sullied by their directors manipulation of RFEF impartiality
5:38
@@RuairiODonnellFOTO Wrong again. Nothing was paid for anyone to do (influence) anything, there is no evidence for this. The evidence suggests the company Negreira owned was paid to analyze games to determine if there was neutrality or not.
Just like in the banking system, Barcelona is too big to fall. The punishment will be a slap on the wrist, if any.
Lol. Yeah. I don’t think it’s like a bank bailout. Not close.
@@funkrates4778 It's not, but neither LaLiga nor UEFA can afford drastic sanctions against the club. Barca won't be literally bailed out because this is not a financial matter, but it's transgressions will likely be overlooked.
@@Drunken_Master I’m sure they will be punished but not to such an extent that it would destroy the club. I know that Juventus was deducted 15 league points for its transgressions, which has huge financial consequences. Being barred from champions league and things like that might be the extent of the punishment. Destroying the club by forcing it into bankruptcy would be too extreme of a sanction.
If it does come out that Barcelona has been bribing referees, Id like to see the investigation proceed further and see id other clubs are involved. It’s hard for me to believe that Barcelona os the only club trying to gain an advantage in the league. The Madrid teams are likely involved too.
You're right. Although if there is proper justice, Barca will be expelled from Spanish football. Clubs have been expelled for less.
@@scipioafricanus2212 Than we should leave Spanish football. Time for indepedent Catalan league
The whole world will see who was corrupt
Real de Madrid, Florenvito Perez
@@carloscervantes911 so barca pays refs for 20 years but that makes perez corrupt ? How delusional are you 😂
@@pali-yoda7375 You clearly don't know how things work in Spain, dunce
@@pali-yoda7375 Average Barca fan
@@carloscervantes911 average 🧠 less fans
Of all the consultants they could do business with they chose one that is working in position that can potentially incriminate them. Yeah I believe that 👍
Do up honestly watch la liga and think barca get favorable calls from referees?
@@siyachrie if anything its the opposite 😂😂
@@siyachrie You obviously don't. Setting the "watching" (you clearly don't watch it) aside, the stats on Barça's refereeing are so skewed in their favor they break charts. Entire seasons with 1 penalty against them and the like. You people are just in denial.
@@Astraben real Madrid is the club who has the most goals ruled out by VAR in the league BY FAR..... What does that tell you, it tells you that the referee in the middle of the park incase of any doubt picks the decision that favours RM.
@@JayVee53 Btw, your BY FAR is laughable, since Madrid has had 10 penalties called in their favor, against 9 in favor of Betis, and 7 in favor of the next 4 teams. Just lol-ing at desperate culers grasping for air. You're going to Segunda and I'll laugh all the way there.
5:40 "to make sure no refereeing decisions were made against them, which is to say, for everything to be neutral"
Do people realise that this is basically admission of guilt ?
Other teams do have decisions go against them sometimes, so if Barcelona pays to eliminate decisions against them - then that is an advantage ! So the situation is NOT neutral when that happens.
The playing field must be equal for all. All the teams accept that sometimes referees make mistakes against them. As long as it is unintentional (human error), it will not matter, because it will average out over time (sometimes you get erros in your favor, sometimes against you).
But If one team eliminates those unfavorable mistakes (through payment) - the average refereeing manner toward that team will be better than the others.
Think of it mathematically:
- let's say you rate each "refereeing performance" on a scale from 0 to 10, which evaluates how correct the decisions were
- so when the referee makes mistakes, he gets a rating of 0, if he doesn't he gets a rating of 10
- assuming no "foul play" and only human error, over time each team will receive an average rating of 5 (because 0+10 divided by 2 is 5)
- now if one of the teams eliminates the unfavorable performances (those where the rating is below 5), then you end up with only above average refereeing perfomances so the calculation would look like this: 5+10 divided by 2, which equals 7.5
- so to sum it up, the other teams receive refereeing performances averaging a rating of 5, while Barcelona receives refereeing performances averaging 7.5
@@anonymususer1728 agreed
It's easy to assume things when you have no idea what you're talking about..
In 1976 a referee Antonio Camacho said "while Plaza -the CTA president back then- remains president of the CTA, Barcelona will never win any trophies. Plaza was a Real Madrid supporter. Funny how they still haven't found any evidence of Barcelona paying off referees to win matches. Tebas, La Liga president is a Real Madrid supporter. There's a lot of Real Madrid corruption in Spain. Even when Madrid won their UCL trophies, teams were INVITED and calls favored Madrid. Please do more research.
@@orioneden7529 Do you feel good when you talk down to other people ?
There is no need to know anything else here, because what I've said stands on its own, as it is simply a matter of LOGIC and DEDUCTION.
When you admit to paying referees in order to eliminate decisions against you ... that's an advantage, end of story.
@anonymususer1728 no it is not. Barcelona has always been disfavored by LaLiga and its referees since they are almost an independent nation by itself. Barcelona has had to pay money to the Negreira to get information other teams already get. It's payment for fair treatment. That's how things are between Barcelona and Laliga. They are hated because they are different. End of story.
Summary of the whole story , " Barcelona Paid in service referee chief for consultation and facilitation during La liga Matches " . 😂😂
"That money was just resting in my account!"
BIZZARE IRREGULARITIES IN HIS ACCOUNTS
Whether this is legal or not, it's extremely fishy either way. What a disgrace
That is why soccer is completely tarnished since the FIFA scandal back in 2015 and I no will never be the same of good reputation
Guardiola looking sus again
Messi's entire story is a lie, the referee help that the boat received and still continues to receive has always been evident
Bayern now the only big team Pep has managed, which is not under any corruption scandal
That could change 😂
People are starting to see pattern here, heh 😏
@@oxymoron458german teams seem to be less corrupt and more financially sustainable
No trophies Messi has won aren't asteriked
Pay refs to win a league they already do every year 😊
uefa wont do anything against barca, uefa has always been inside barca pocket
Juventus was relegated to Serie B with point deduction as well in 2006 for less (just illegal contacts with referees, no money transfers).
But considering the current state of the game, Barca can sleep peacefully, they won't be getting any significant punishment.
Also taking in consideration that Calciopoli was a absolute, multi-club, nationwide scandal in which there were even people from the very top of Italy’s government involved. This Barcelona thing looks like a Dr. Seuss book in contrast with the Calciopoli
@@mgutierrez2351 what you're talking about is anecdotal evidence. And there are documents containing money transfers for the Barca case. Also you can easily find graphs clearly showing how Barca benefited from paid refereeing for example by getting less red cards, while the opponents in the matches against them received more red cards than average. The anomaly is clear and cannot be explained otherwise. Just search reddit for the data.
Barca should be stripped of every single title over almost two decades because of this clearly rotten system.
@@adamu8 there is no such evidence for this case(if you have the evidence pls submit) and it's an ongoing investigation.
Reddit 😅 there are other videos showing decisions against barca (lost a league title) what do you think abt that? Nothing!!!
Ur right
@@adamu8 this mf really used Reddit as a source
I do believe Barça is guilty to at least some extent, but please, leave the issue to professionals
Do we remember that Chelsea game in 2009 UCL against Barca that was a very clear scandal in favour of Barcelona. Secondly you tell me you paid no make bad decision against Barca what a beautiful truth
The scandal involves LaLiga, not UEFA
It’s funny when people talk about games that they never watched or wasn’t even born when they played
Nothing will happen. 10-20 years down the road it will still be the same
“Barca has launched their own investigation” sure they did 😂
Made me laugh, too. Can't wait for it to exonerate them or, at best, find a convenient scapegoat and say he acted alone.
@@sirravixfourhorn7681 Investigation means they are collecting reports dumb that were prepared by DASNIL...Not to give them clean chit..Presidency has changed from 2016..Laporta will appear before media in April with all the proof
Dude you’re black, shut up
@@sirravixfourhorn7681 Scapegoat? If they don't find anything, why will they need a scapegoat?
Like OJ searching for "the real killer" 😆
If barca got convicted with the accusations. Every single trophy they won will be determined non valid. Since they are corrupted, even their players and all the trophies they got will also be questioned since they got them while being in barca.
Tifo do a special on the last time jamaica went to the world cup
What is Jamaica?
So Mourinho was right about referees favouring Barcelona
There was a time where barca players would fall and roll all over the pitch to get players sent off...
I can never forget when Robin Van Persie got a red card for kicking the ball away in a Champions League match against Barcelona. That referee was against Arsenal from the start
The case deals with La Liga, not UEFA competition
@@pablosanchez9549 yet still the same team is involved, god only knows where this goes
@@hectorlagos8937 didn't he get yellow? 2nd yellow not directly a red
The infamous Drogba "its a f**king disgrace" game also comes to mind...
@@VolTheProducer That game was the absolute worst referring I have ever seen. I am absolutely not a Chelsea fan, but Chelsea were COMPLETELY robbed that night.
Outsiders must understand that Barça have a long bad history with referees for political reasons. There was always the tendency to favour the opposition team Barça faced. Having said this, Bartomeu and its group are the least professional, naive and dumb people that ever presided Barça.
Man really said "they paid me to make sure no decisions goes against them". If that's not the proof I don't know what is. But nothing will happen. La liga needs them unfortunately.
That's a very common practice in Spain.
Statue of limitations had passed for La Liga's internal laws for this kind of stuff. It's a matter for the judiciary and there's too much bias for any kind of trial as you'd be hard pressed to get charges in Catalunya and federal charges from Madrid will be likely appealed with "Real Madrid/Atletico fans as prosecution"
There is a thing called a brain and ears. If you use them accordingly and dont act like a sheep you would realize thats not the real quote.
@@TimedOut4noReason there there buddy! Don't get angry at people because you support a corrupt club.
@@TimedOut4noReason well, the quote states that they paid him to ensure neutrality and does point out that they wanted to ensure referees weren’t making decisions against Barcelona.
Arsenal should win the final UCL. Referees robbed them 2 times
Now that UCL matches with Arsenal and Chelsea make some much sense. Still a bit confused,why would you pay ref when you have prime messi
u still dont get it that this negreira ref is not associated with ucl referees right?
@@DerBruh97 if they were paying SOME refs at all why are you so sure that barca wasn't paying ucl refs too? Maybe this will be revealed later, but those ucl matches were obvious fraud.
@@et2k166 but as of now you have no evidence that happened in uefa. So no, those games still don’t make sense as the current issue is unrelated to that tournament.
@@aperson4057 on paper you are right, there is no evidence, but if someone has experience of buying referees do you really believe they would do it only in one league?
@@et2k166 you have to show that the refs are for sale in each league. A team could potentially buy off refs, but perhaps the league tries to remain fair and this doesn’t happen in their league. Very difficult to show and as of now, we got nothing of that sort.
17 years of payments yet they want to blame it all on Barto and ignore Laportas role in it
What's funny now is Barca fans assume that their club's accused, while others assume that Barca bought refs. There's still no *clear* prove now for both sides.
Don’t forget the fact that laporta said they were paying since NUNEZ YEA……. And also Barca can’t prove what they paid for and THE SOCIOS HAD NO CLUE this money was being spent……and the fact that NEGREIRAs friend and coworker would cash and spend the money using just enough so that the bank couldn’t be involved 900€ each time…….
It sounds like you're trying to shine their picture 😂😂 if they really only paid him to be a consultant why did they always pay him through shell companies ? They paid to be favored by referees and now when you go back and watch some of their matches it's pretty obvious, Barça's downfall is gonna be a pleasure to watch 😁😍
The fact that Sergio Ramos could barely finish any el classicos.....I am a neutral and I always found officiating in this matches favourable towards a certain side
How does it feel after they won the league again lmao 🤣🤣🤣. Just can't accept that you were their dogs in 2010s
@@RobertGithinji-e5uand please talk about how many times casemiro got away with red card every game. How many times VADRID players tackled brutally and got away with it.
This video is the first I disliked by Tifo. It chose a narrative and ran with it.
I remember Mourinho once said that the referee favors Barcelona because they were sponsored by UNICEF, now it turns out that he was right but not because of UNICEF but because of bribery LMAO
@@satyamsaurabh8060 VIVA EL BETIS
@@satyamsaurabh8060 didn't La Liga have goal line technology then?
Barça weren’t sponsored by UNICEF, Barça were the ones to pay UNICEF to use their logos on their kits.
Mourinho knows. His instincts easily sense when there's fuckery around.
Negative football knowledge
The actual predident also paid and also raised the salary of Negreira, also its beliebed that this scheme gies far back in time believed to go befor Nñez. Also this club has been acuded and condemned before for another crimes, and all its presidents since Nuñez have been processed
Why do i feel like this Video was rushed, and didn't provide everything.?
This video was nothing but another misleading video.He didn’t even bother to mention that till now no proofs are found against Barcelona and that Laporta has filed lawsuits against those media lawsuits which accused Barca of corruption.
@@kishansarkar5341 It's like by trying to not be Bias.. You end up with wrong informations
@@musaddiqmunirliman8267 Agreed
the title of the video tells you everything. the title claimed neigera was head of referees??? 😂😂😂
Absolutely misleading video. No official charges have been filed against anyone plus Treasury's investigation have found no wrongdoing already, Tifo are so hungry for clickbait
'For being neutral'- teams have to pay referee?
Some teams get treated more neutrally than others 👍
This is so one sided, thought more of the athletic, what about the fact not a single evidence against barcelona has been brought up, or the fact that in a raid by spanish police in an ex barcelona board member they found some of these reports, just as barcelona claimed.
The one and only difference between barcelona and other clubs in spain is that the company barcelona hired still had an active refere as a part of the company. There is 0 evidence of contact between him and barcelona so it is fully possible barcelona did not even know about it. It’s like me looking through an entire company to see if i have a relative there. All of this has been absurd and pushed by the leauge president tebas.
You could have made this so much more nuiansed but chose to have the same journalistik integrity as trollfotball.
Quite amazing how this seven-minute video managed to say absolutely nothing.
tifo's quality has gone down the drain
What did you expect? "In the few weeks since the news broke every single question mark has been answered and court proceedings are finished"? When so much football media makes wild claims with no basis, I find it great that there is a level headed channel were they are very clear with what we ACTUALLY know at this point.
You guys want Tifo to straight cut accuse a club as corrupt where everything's been already proved by the Spanish treasury that there was nothing such paying refs for on field advantages. Make a list of what else do you guys want. Perez as Americas President, Infantino come out and tell the world that World Cup was rigged for Argentina, All the offside goals real madrid scored in their CL threepeat are legal etc. etc. Lmfao
Spot on 😂
Yes you’re right. I’m a Barca fan, and it’s not what I’ve heard and read. I think this info is inaccurate.
Mourinho was always right. Cheated their way to success. What an embarrassment of a club.
anyone who watches La Liga week in and out knows that Real Madrid are the only club that gets help from refs every time.
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@@bo4Elite there are 19 clubs competing against Madrid in La Liga, go ask their fans
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Pessi’s legacy is exposed
Funny, when Pep feels really comfortable in a club, sooner or later at some point allegations of irregularities or crimes come up about the Clubs. 😉
lol, Bayern next than ?
@@majormononoke8958 Was he comfortable in Munich? I don't think so 😊
This is nothing, Man City bought 6 Premier League Titles…
Barça is corrupt, and so is La Liga.
But hey, més que un club.
Even if the claim are true they will settle this down for the sake of la liga and Spanish football
No, they won't.
It's Barcelona not real madrid
@@snapop200 bro both real and Barca are needed
They would if Barcelona wasn’t trying to start the super league
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TIFO seems get their info from Barças' apologists.
BARC€LONA. That's why Van Persie's red card happened. That's why Chelsea were denied 4 clear penalties and Barcelona scored the winning goal past the normal play time.
And beating psg. Chelsea at least got their revenge in 2012.
Just like the PGMOL being in the pocket of the Manchester football clubs haha
3:45 Barca have "involved their compliance department and an external law firm". In other words, the compliance department is now busy deleting any trails and the legal firm has been hired to defend the corruption charges.
And your piece of evidence of that is nothing but your imaginative balls
Of course we'll allow for due process, but anyone capable of making an educated observation can note exactly what's going on here. Out of all the consultants they could've hired itw, it had to be one in a position of such power & influence in a competition they're taking part in? I for one doubt that they'll get any major reprimands but here's hoping 🍻
So Uefalona was finally caught, what will happen with all the finals and matches they won with the help from referees??
Bro really thinks Barca robbed finals. 💀😭🙏
It's funny a respected publication like the athletic releases reports covering key facts, which are TRUE, but leaves out a key detail from the 21st of March. The Spanish treasury found no evidence that negreira influenced results in favor of barca.
There is literally no proof tho
Best signing they’ve made in years
Your mother is next, shame she ain’t worth much tho
I guess that saying “presumed innocent until proven guilty” not so much used for today’s society.
Defaming is something serious and could happen to any of us (Johnny Depp VS Amber Heard).
No. In this case, it should absolutely be 'guilty till proven innocent'. It didn't come from nowhere. Depp and Heard are a different matter.
I bet you think Epstein killed himself too
@@sirravixfourhorn7681 no, it’s a human right to have a fair trial and to be innocent till proven guilty, no exceptions, it’s legally not fair, and neither is morally
So what you're saying is that people aren't allowed to come to their own conclusions on the evidence as presented currently, that only the randomly selected jury can do that for any given allegation?
I'm not sure you know what defamation is.
When did anyone presume anything? The video reports on publicly available evidence and facts. Nothing defamatory at all
Hmm so maybe 2011 Barca v Arsenal and PSG v Barca 2017 were pay offs too?
La Liga definitely is so wouldn't suprise me they corrupted the UEFA referees.
Important fact on this scandal is that Enríquez Negreira was the man in the Technical Referees Committee who decided which referees were promoted, demoted, awarded with more or better matches, punished etc. Of course those who refereed in Barcelona's favour or against Real Madrid got more of the nice stuff.
to anyone watching La Liga regularly, It was obvious that Barca was being favored. (Unless you were a blind Barca fan ofc.)
Their UCL scandals would also come to surface if investigated as well.
Grow up VARdrid fan
One name: Senes Erzik. That’s the name they have to search for in case they really want to know how referees on UCL favoured barcelona.
how could a competion with gil manzano, matuo lahoz and hernadnez hernandez be in favor of barca? these refs are literally infamous for being in favor of madrid
@@ContradictoryAl alex, hernandez hernandez es uno de los arbitros que más ha pitado en contra del madrid. Los otros dos son neutrales, a diferencia del resto de arbitros. Sé que es difícil abrir los ojos, pero anda que toda la info está ya ahí.
Barca lost the 2013-14 La Liga season because of an incorrect ofside call. Doesn't sound like being favoured to me.
Barcelona are the dodgiest club in Europe - and you can guarantee that they won't face any sanctions whatsoever
Funny thing is that all the information they allegedly paid this guy to gather for them they could have fairly easily gotten themselves without breaking the law and without shelling out hundreds of thousands of euros to this guy every season
And if you actually do pay for those reports the managers really should know about them so they can instruct their players or at least know which of their staff are going to do it.
There were never any reports.
@Johan Halvarsson Pretty sure they found the reports during a police raid
Tell us the way(they should've contacted you for referee behaviour reports not the referee association themselves) by which barca could easily gotten themselves these reports this would be of help for other spanish clubs too as they do the same thing as a common practice.
@@PlatFlame The reports they found have not been singed. Additionally I doubt anyone would pay 500 000 euros a year for a 3 page report on a referee a match. Now Barça has a person to do such reports for 25K a year. I think you can spot the difference.
@Dancho Stanchev Yordanov I also doubt over the span of those years it was only abt million euros to buy out the refeeres I don't see a world where they would something like this but that's just me maybe if they find some actual evidence
Bro, Barcelona didn't pay the head of referees. He was the vice president and holds no power over who gets to ref the games. Stop spreading misinformation.
He’s in a position of power. The position wouldn’t exist otherwise
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Except he literally doesn't have the power to appoint refs, which has been started repeatedly.
If Barcelona were really trying to bribe, or at the very least influence refs, which is what several outlets, including Tifo (who I thought see better than this clickbait title) are suggesting, it would make more sense to actually pay someone with actual influence over who gets to ref what game, don't you think? The argument some people are making falls flat on its face when you think about it for more than 5 seconds.
@@Arponare He is a vice president. Whether he does or doesn’t have the power to appoint ref’s is irrelevant. He is in a position of influence and paying this man whilst he was still employed in that position is incredibly shady. Regardless of the intent of the payment, it will still influence ALL the referee’s because this man without a doubt has some influence on the rest of the RC
Even in the case i dismiss this fact, not only did he get paid, why was he paid through shell companies? If it were such a legitimate thing that you are twisting this to be, why not pay straight up with your name on the transaction? The only reason you would ever have to do that is if you are trying to hide something.
In fact, why have I never heard of any of the players or managers receiving the “reports”? If anyone needs these reports its them. If they don’t receive it then the payments were obviously not intended for “reports”.
Also, even if you were right, every club should receive those reports. Thats such a significant advantage they have over other teams.
Whichever way you look at this, theres no doubt something incredibly dodgy is going on. I wouldn’t be surprised if they corrupted ucl refs too considering how they robbed arsenal and chelsea
Now they really can be called VARca 😂
I hate Barcelona but I don't think anything will come of this. A lot of smoke and probably no evidence that referees unfairly favored Barcelona. I think having Messi was enough of a help for any team.
At most the punishment will be a slap on the wrist suspended sentence for 3 years.
Maybe heavier punishment from UEFA if they're willing to open the can of worms prolonged legal battles.
When the whole world thinks a club is corrupt and then it just so happens that they might be… regardless of the truth it’s hard to believe that the Barca board is legitimate altogether
I hope you're talking about Bartomeu and not Laporta, who was not even involved
@@-Filip Laporta increased the bribes to Negreira, he's also guilty.
@@martinmcmartinezface4243 damn youtube lawyer at its finest
@@martinmcmartinezface4243 he's not even charged. Source?
@@martinmcmartinezface4243 and i tripled it. Take me in too
Negreira was vice president from 2015 to 2018 … not from 2001 when the payments started … most of the info you are presenting comes from the Madrid press which we all now how they operate… and what happened to innocent untill proven guilty…. And another thing 7.3 mil for 17 years ??? Really ? Are we talking about some second division in Eastern Europe ?
Do an episode on Balotelli joining Liverpool. It was so random lol
Pretty sure they have
@@MrSlim98 they did, it was "7 horsemen of Luis Suraez" i think
If this was say... Manchester City would UEFA make no comment? Just a question
Always knew something was wrong in that Chelsea game
the entire matter only resides in the spanish domicile 🤡🤡 also yes, there was something wrong in that chelsea game, for both the teams
This would have no influence over eufa referees
We all did and I'm not even a Chelsea fan
There was something wrong with most of their games
Chelsea 2009, Arsenal 2011 (Van Persie sent off), Milan 2006 (Shevchenko disallowed goal) etc, but those were UEFA games and referees, not Spanish.
Just saying
1)something like bribing the referees is what u do under the table u dont make official paperworks
2) Barca have also been wronged by referees , if u just hit youtube you can find it out how many times they have been wronged in the league itself, once even costing them the la liga title.
3) Vice president has no power to ask referees what they do in a match, he is the head, but not a boss.
4) Even i dont trust Bartomeu at all. But i also dont trust a club as big as barca with world and journalist watching each move they make, paying 1.4 million to such a big man wont come out for many years, if u guys remember what happened with juventus when they did the same.
5) Lastly, Wont deny it looks sus, and all these comments made by people involved in this matter are pretty concerning too, but paying the referees is a very big scandal and not something which remains hidden for so damn long. IT could be something wrong, something illegal, but i refuse to believe something as big as bribing referees can happen.
Ah!
Now it all makes sense why Pique always kept on complaining to the referees.
You gotta earn that money on the field ref.😂
Sure the money was just resting in his account..... Barcelona aren't guilty, there has never been any corruption in football....... City are also just a very well run club and make loads of money from their HUGE fan base.....
Because it is a farmers league with terrible officiating to go along with the abysmal teams that play in it. They wanted to ensure that they got the calls. It is that simple. Barcelona should be relegated and their trophies in that time should go to whoever was in second place. Ridiculous that this still happens. Especially for a team that so proudly say that they “play the game the way they see it should be played” and that it is “more than a club.” It is absurd.
Not happening, and even if, most of the trophies they lost would go to Real Madrid, and anyone who thinks they are an honest club is dreaming.
@@Lonestarr022 Oh I know. Italian football set a precedent and we can only hope that Spain follows suit, but they are extremely corrupt as well.
The amount of misinformation in this video is amazing, you'd think that a reputable group such as Tifo from the Athletic would try to get the facts straight. Starting with the title and basically the first point of the video: Barcelona didn't pay the Head of Refeerees. Instead, what they did was pay a company which belongs to the son of the Vice President of the Refereeing Committe (Negreira). Furthermore, Negreira had neither influence on referees or the power to appoint referees to any game. As we all have probably read or seen, Barcelona is being accused of basically paying for better refereeing decisions and for appointing distinct referees for the matches they wanted, this is all a fallacy that in a court of law holds no merit because there is no evidence of this.
I love Barca and I can't stand Real Madrid. That should be no barrier to anyone recognising that if these charges are proven, Barca should be stripped of every domestic trophy they won in that period. Cheating can never be tolerated or winning means nothing.
Barca fans, and past players and coaches (assuming they didn't know about it), should be outraged that all their huge successes have been tainted by what was, even if it's not found to be criminal, obviously dodgy practices.
Why would players and menagers have to pay for it ?
Tifo conveniently left out the part where on Tuesday (as in 2 days ago) the arbitrators of this case found no evidence that Barcelona’s alleged payoffs to Negreira led to result manipulation or influenced the result of any match in La Liga. In act they only found evidence that it was true that Barca had been paying for technical reports that were all done by Negreiras son.
having said all that, I still think that Bartomeu and Rosell should face some kind of punishment for what they did, it was very unethical and irresponsible of them.
So it is guilty till proven innocent now?
@@TheSikerad sure you'd say exact same thing if it was other clubs!
@@simokojamesphiri7924 " Barca are guilty but should not face punishment!" that's what you say?
Pessi with his golden balls,
Messi didnt deserve ballondor :" diego maradonna
It's funny because prior to this video posted, the Spanish Treasury have already made the assessment that there were no evidence of the accusations that were made against them.
that’s different from UEFA doing the investigation.
What do you mean by "the Spanish Treasure"? Both the Spanish Federation and LaLiga have sued Barcelona.
That's why they're in charge of taxes and not of the justice. That's an instutional statement to ensure that's no their job to make accusations, the federation, UEFA and Spanish justice however, are carrying the investigation. So no, they aren't saying Barcelona is innocent neither.
@@sevvvs UEFA can only make a verdict when the spanish court give a verdict on Barca being guilty or not. TEBAS took the case to UEFA because only UEFA can punish barca if barca is guilty because la liga is time banned. everything depends on if the court finds barca guilty of sport corruption.
@@martinmcmartinezface4243 i dont know where you get your news from but i will suggest you change your source. if you say la liga have sued barca? please state the grounds???
right now the only case is from the prosecutors office charging neigera and rosell, Bartholomeu and other barca directors over corruption.
la liga can't take actions against barca because there are time banned which is why tebas reported to UEFA for investigation.
I hope Barca sue you for defaming our club. You only showed the people what is on the surface, but when you look deeper into it you would know that Barca did not pay refs for favorable decisions. This is extremely dangerous for you to do and I hope you do end up getting sued.
So from 2001 to 2018, that is 17 seasons, 7.2m euros, and average of 423k/season to adulterate a competition, not that expensive. That seems to be something within the affordability range of any team in La Liga...
That we know of … they could use cash or other collateral under the table
If you pay 5M a year to the VP of the referees, then it becomes to obvious. They say this started because Barcelona tried to deduct expenses with the tax agency and they started to ask documentation which they couldn't provide
It’s not only 7.3 millions. The difference between refereeing in First division and second division is about $200k per year. That’s a lot for a referee. Enriquez Negreira controlled who was gonna referee each division.
@@Arms1234 How Negreira would use the money and his influence, that's a different matter. What I'm saying is, if that is how much it costs to adulterate a competition, it is very cheap as compared as the many other expenditures that a club has. That's why the reporting quotes the total figure, to make it sound bigger, as if they gave the cost per season that would not be as impacting. which is suspicious.
7.3 Million is the money they found. I also think it's cheap, but if they found 7.3M, who is to say that's all there is?
Dont forget Barca vs PSG
that’s was just a awful refree their never paid refrees people are just blind by the media that’s the hurt truth
There's certain cases where you don't need a trial and a judge's sentence to know someone is guilty of something. This is an example.
you're so wrong
first
I like how the whole of footballing world knows exactly what's happened, and is simply waiting for the deciding evidence to make it into light.
Innocent until proven guilty
@TheSikerad legally speaking sure. The public can speculate.
@@TheSikerad greenwood is innocent until proven guilty but we all have seen evidence. i can quote several other technicalities of innocent until proven guilty by court of law but we all know the truth. barca is crooked, they turned into the very thing they stood against.
Did you not watch the vid ? or barca's games before ?
The Treasury have announced there is no evidence against Barcelona. Infact it's in the favour of what they're saying.
You can wait for "decisive documents" all you want, you won't get it
برشلونة يدفع رشاوى ويتهم بالفساد ،، لا لا ما اظن 🤔 ان شاء الله عقوبة وهبوط و خصم نتائج سابقة
FINALLY!! you put it on spotlight!
Also Enriquez negreira said he never received payment from the referees committee because he was already paid by barsa😅, you can look it up, he literally said that