There was once an article that claimed Hitler was a Schalke fan. Schalke responded saying it was nonsense and that Schalke were just the most successful team during Hiter's reign. They stated "To conclude Hitler was a fan of Schalke 04 because they won most of the titles during his regime must make Margaret Thatcher a Liverpool fan. Funnily enough she didn't make the list."
Schalke was basically the Bayern of the 1930s and early 40s, just absurdly dominant in the same way that Bayern is today. Of course, the Nazis tried to use this for their propaganda and explained their success as being due to inherently German characteristics - awkwardly, Schalke's team and especially its stars was in large part of Polish heritage, with the two defining Schalke legends of the time having the not, uh, exactly uber-germanic names Szepan and Kuzorra.
@@lnhart7157. Only one problem: many of those Polish players endorsed the Nazi Party multiple times and accepted the association of their working class roots with Nazism. (Are you kidding me? 🤦🤦🏿♂️)
@@lnhart7157 Germans did not see themselves as better than other people. You should dig past the propaganda and there is plenty of evidence. Why would he align himself with Asians, Africans and Arabs as well as other European nations like Italy, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, and Croatia... When Jesse Owens won gold in Berlin, Hitler praised him. In his own autobiography, he stated that his own president, FDR, did not acknowledge his achievement. “Hitler didn't snub me-it was our president who snubbed me… The president didn't even send me a telegram.” - Jesse Owens.
This is far better than the Bayern museum even has. When living in Munich, I knew of prominent members of the club being arrested, but was under the impression even after visiting their museum, that the club was relatively pro-Nazi. Brilliant video
@@SamS-uv2ql I think the guy is suggesting that the museum doesn't do enough to dispel the myths about Bayern and Nazism, rather than that they actively "present themselves in a worse light" there. Like, maybe they don't have enough space to talk about it with all the room the last 60 years of success must take up, or maybe there is a will there to play it safe, avoid controversy etc. Or some reason that isn't immediately obvious to me. I wouldn't know myself if that is fair or not as I've never even been to that museum, or Germany at all. But that is what "jackpalmer" is saying, I'm pretty sure.
There is absolutely nothing that indicated the club is or was pro-Nazi. There are literally lgbt flags amongst Bayern ultras every FUCKING game. Anti-nazism is deeply rooted in Bayern and it's a well known fact. If you've lived in Munich and have a rudimentary knowledge of German football, I do not see how you could have seen things the way you did. Maybe you could explain a bit further in replies here.
The thing that’s sad too is that by making those jokes about Bayern it really just means that the nazis are succeeding in their goal to rebrand the club and promote nazism.
@@ranchsauce3232tbf it has nothing to do with the club but the country, and since Bayern is by far the most successful team in the country currently you can see the correlation
I was just at bayern Munich museum last week, and this exactly explains much of what was described on many of the walls! Fantastic club, great history and tradition. And of course, one that I admire and respect as a Manchester United fan
Maybe a video on Spanish clubs during francoist spain would be good. So much argument between Madrid and Barca fans on which club got favoured by the government
It was actually neither. Barcelona were probably loathed by Franco and Real Madrid weren’t particularly liked by him either but he used both at different times for propaganda purposes. The team Franco actually supported, was Atletico Madrid (then known as Atletico Aviacion).
Uhm pretty sure there’s no arguing WHO of the 2 got favoured 😂😂 but more like Barca complaining that RMA got favoured and the fact that Barca were being discriminated while RMA supporters being proud of Franco supporting them and hating Barca for the same reasons Franco hated them: having a very strong regional identity instead of a nationalist one and being more supportive of anti-fascist forces during the civil war.
@@thefutbolfollower8326 Franco himself settled the di Stefano affair in favor of RM over Barca. The *direct* and *immediate* result of that was 5 champions league trophies in a row.
@@DB-uf6md "chatting shit on football is not the same" - This makes zero sense since the video clearly goes into detail about the reign of Hitler during 1938-1945 clearly has a direct impact on football in Germany? Most importantly since they used it as a massive propaganda tool ?
@@M-bd9qx it makes perfect sense. If you want a history lesson you go to listen to someone whos somewhat credible/knowledgeable, for instance mark felton. Making a video about what happened to x team is not in the same ballpark as taking apart historic subjects. With all my respect to alfie, hes got some blatant errors in some of his videos when he goes into some geopolitical or cultural facets of his topic, which is fine and understandable, its not his job.
Hartlepool United was the only ground bombed from the air in WW1 (by a Zeppelin) and in WW2 (several times) and also Hartlepool was the first town in mainland UK to be bombed (by sea). Obviously the guy was a Darlo fan.
When I was visiting my grandmother living in Hartlepool I went to a united game with her and I picked up their kit because it looked really cool. At the darlington train station to go back down to london I got a few shouts from local Darlo fans, glad I wasn't bombed.
Well, u could have been a fan of them back in the nazi-era...and maybe even i would have been...but today they are getting sponsored by the dictators that pay the best (Qatar Airways in the past for example) like everyone else. Dont be fooled^^
Thanks for making this, Alfie. I'm no fan of Bayern as I dislike any club dominating a league like they do, but the accusations of them being Nazis is unfair and untrue. I wish people would do their reseach but I guess that's pretty pie in the sky...
well you must hate mancity then too ;) no diverence between the dominance in the bundesliga or premier league ;) if bundesliga is a farmers league so is the premier league
@@Black-Mal what if your club started dominating the league tho? We all want our clubs to win, and obviously none of us would stop being a fan if they do so
While we're on the subject of the Nazis trying and failing to use football for propaganda purposes, here's one of my all-time favourite footballing anecdotes: In 1938, England played Germany in Berlin, and were forced to perform the Nazi salute as part of the UK's appeasement policy at the time. The players *hated* being made to do so, and fueled by that rage, they thumped Germany 6-3. One of England's six goals - described by Stanley Matthews as "probably the greatest goal I ever saw" - was scored by a Jewish forward named Len Goulden. From 25 yards out, he struck a volley with enough force to partially rip the net off the crossbar, then wheeled away and yelled "Let 'em salute that one!" Legend.
Where as now football isn't used for propaganda purposes is it? Players don't get sacked from their clubs for refusing to promote LGBT+ or for daring to suggest civilians need aid in gaza...
This was super interesting. I have seen the same comment about Bayern's logo during that period, used as a quick insult, so many times. Thank you for providing important context.
Small correction Alfie: By all accounts, Hitler didn’t take Jesse Owens winning some medals very badly. He apparently either waved or nazi saluted Jesse Owens in a quick exchange, according to Jesse Owens himself and other eye witnesses. He didn’t officially congratulate any winners of medals, except a few German ones I believe, because the IOC had told him he should either congratulate everyone, or nobody. He chose to congratulate nobody. Foreign press explained this as Jesse Owens being ‘snubbed’ by Hitler and that Hitler was ‘very upset’, but all accounts we have of the Olympics point towards Hitler not losing a single night’s sleep over it. Jesse Owens himself has always maintained the United States treated him even worse than the Germans. The US was still an apartheid state at this point. People simply pretended he never won a medal. While other athletes received awards and celebrations, he and the other black athletes were basically told to sit in the back of the bus again. Only in 2016, Barack Obama invited the families of Jesse Owens and other black athletes over to show an official sign of appreciation from the white house.
I love all your content bro, but this is just wonderful. Have a look at Vasco Da Gama, how they were initially formed and fought against racism. Their story made me a fan of them nearly 100 years later and living 5000 miles away. Great work lad 👏👏👏
I'm presuming you enjoyed making this video more than most & it was also very sad too. I greatly appreciate it being Jewish myself & a job well done. I can be critical at times in some of your videos but this is a 10/10. Thank you Alfie 🙏🏼
I liked this video too, but it could give a little more space to Kurt Landauer's non-re-election. This election showed, there were actually also a lot of Nazis in the club. They voted for a Handball guy. And that after Bayern Munich was the first football club with a license after the war. Kurt Landauer was a big help at this moment.
Thank you for this video Alfie, I can now just send people this instead of having to type out an essay as to why making jokes about Bayerns badge is distasteful.
What's the difference between celtic69 and the Bayern team in 1940? One enjoyed knocking back farts Ahahaha get it? Because you said you were a rainbow person in another videos comment section
@@benjaminbronnimann3966 oh the original commenter is one of them really left wing fart knockers who gets offended by everything Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Thanks for making a great video about one of my favorite teams. I already knew a lot about this topic but still learned a ton. Another great video from Alfie!
Oh no. A random person on the internet has an opinion on how I should live my life. Whatever will I do? I guess I'll change my life completely to appease them.
Interesting side note: Austria Vienna was temporarily banned under Nazi rule, while their bitter rivals SK Rapid competed in and succesfully won the German Bundesliga, despite being located in Vienna.
In that time Bundesliga didn't exist, they won the german final. Also in that time austria was part of germany ("Ostmark") after the nazis had taken it, with sometimes overwhelming support by the austrians themselves.
Alfie, you have outperformed your consistent quality and insight with this video. Outstanding work. Works like this are becoming iincreasingly valuable as fascism makes another of its periodic resurrections. Your observations of Jewish integration into German society during the period of prosperity early in the century illustrate a fundamental fact about fascism. The bullying and persecution of The Other only appear when societies are stressed, most commonly by economic crisis (the Great Depression), but also during ethnic migrations, periods of national humiliation (Treaty of Versailles), and most recently as Western culture has encountered the inflection point of cultural evolution. It is most obvious in the U.S. where the abrupt increase in the rate of cultural evolution, with the advent of The Information Age has revealed our species' inability to adapt to environmental change beyond a certain rate. American society is beginning to turn on itself in a manner reminiscent of 1930's Germany, with the emergence of Hitler analogs like Trump. As in Germany under Hitler, our fascists are searching for scapegoats, the weakest groups in society to subject to potentially fatal bullying. My point is Thank you for helping to illustrate this particular human failing in such a timely fashion.
Been waiting for a video like this, so thank you for informing people on this. Football fans on Twitter are pathetic, and I doubt they will stop with these jokes anytime soon. Would like to see a video on the social media side of things in football these days, and the toxic culture it brings. Keep up the good work!
@@SuperMickyChow That's not true. Benito Mussolini founded the AS Roma club. And he made it in the red and gold colors to show respect for the Roman Empire and its civilization and dominance. The Lazio traitors didn't want to join back then. But that was a long time ago. The two ultras from the clubs are right-wing fascists. Even after all this time. The loyalty is absolutely admirable.
Landau might survived the Holocaust and became the president of Bayern München again but to live with the fact that all his family members were murdered was really hard :((
I just found out about Bayern history thought it was strange they only recently talked about the history. Also surprised Shalke was a powerhouse back then.
Never really followed the Bundesliga until this season, when Kane moving to Bayern made me jump on the bandwagon. Thank you for making me less ashamed of what’s now my favourite German club.
Even if the history was true… why should you be shamed? The modern club is obviously far from Nazi. The fans are very liberal and inclusive. Btw the history about landauer, his role and importance for the club was researched by the fans and not the club itself. That’s the thing about German football. As a fan you can literally change your club and motivate them for taking action in professional research and so on. Also the new statue in front of the Allianz Arena of Gerd Müller was also initiated by its fans.
@@smokeymcpot1799white right wing propaganda movie… no thanks, the only people who recommended that garbage are neo nazis with “⚡️⚡️” in their usernames but nice try tho
Another exemplary video highlighting a topic very few content creators would take on due to its sensitive nature. This is why I watch HITC Sevens, and also why you deserve UA-cam's best football content creator.
Thank you for making this. EPL fans need more education outside of top 5 clubs lol. As a Bayern fan, you hear so much ignorance from EPL fans who learn the sport from FIFA lol
I'm not ignorant about Bayern. I hate Bayern because they have made the league with the best fans a completely boring, predictable waste of time. All helped along by the idiot other teams in Germany.
Some Commeters after this Video: Come on Alfie, why are you always making political references. I mean now you even comparing people to Hitler (I am not smart and can't read the title or listen to the video). Before this I was a long-term subscriber of 2 days. Now after you suddenly turned political, you have lost me and I am sure you will now change your ways, because I am a weirdo in the comments. Irony Off: I have read parts of this word for word on this channel and its baffling.
Yeah Alfie, just tone down literally anything that makes your channel special! Just kidding, I'm quite glad someone dives as deep into topics as he does. There is already more than enough shallow entertainment focused content on UA-cam about Football (which can also be executed properly, don't get me wrong). I don't get these people, just watch something else and quit acting as if Alfie's Style is objectively flawed with him mentioning politics. There is a difference between valid criticizm and your own opinion. I for example wouldn't go to the Irish Guys channel and comment about me disliking his loud screechy voice. I just don't like it as much but there is nothing objectively wrong with it. Maybe a lot of people writing that kind of stuff use football as an escape from real life and feel uncomfortable hearing about the harsh reality.
Very interesting, relevant to what's happening at the moment. Have you considered doing a video on the Yugoslav 89-90 season where one of the final games Red Star Belgrade v Dynamo Zagreb which reportedly caused the start of the war
The Russia vs Ukraine Euro 2000 qualifying game at Moscow, which saw Ukraine qualifying for that tournament instead of Russia on a dramatic fashion, was considered as a major catalyst for the broken relationship between the two big former Soviet members that led to the military conflict, especially after Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, and a full-scale war in 2022.
just to be clear that as a dortmund fan i still hate bayern just as much as i did before this video, but only because i never thought they were nazis to begin with, that’s stupid. now if you’ll excuse me, i’m gonna continue crying over last season and hating harry kane, thanks
I always love hearing about Nazi actions or quotes that point out how painfully out of touch and warped their world views were to where “winning a match is more important to the people than the capture of a town somewhere in the East” is an actual realization an actual nazi had 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 like yes no shit Joseph, and then bro proceeded to ban them from losing 🤣😭
First time in my life Ive ever heard of this controversy over Bayern. Good on them for their efforts to fight off Nazism in their club and community. RIP to all those connected with the club who suffered under Hitler. YNWA from your friends in Liverpool.
Player (1970-1979): Joined Bayern Munich in 1970. Played as a forward. Achievements: Won three Bundesliga titles, three European Cups, one DFB-Pokal, and one Intercontinental Cup. Part of the legendary team alongside players like Franz Beckenbauer and Gerd Müller. General Manager (1979-2009): Took over as the club's general manager just months after his playing career ended due to injury. Not to mention that when he took over Bayern was in debt, he made them financially stable immediately and since then Bayern has never been in the minus EVER. Oversaw one of the most successful periods in Bayern's history, turning the club into a football powerhouse both on and off the pitch. Achievements: Multiple Bundesliga titles, UEFA Champions League victories, and other domestic and international trophies. President (2009-2019, 2019-2022): Elected as president of the club in 2009. Brief hiatus: In 2014, Hoeneß was convicted of tax evasion and subsequently resigned as president. He served half of a 3.5-year prison sentence. Re-elected as president in 2016 after his release. Did not stand for re-election in 2022 and stepped down. Legacy: Immensely influential in transforming Bayern Munich into one of the world's most successful and wealthiest football clubs. Not without controversy, particularly the tax evasion conviction. His involvement in the club, from player to executive, means he's been integral to the Bayern Munich story for over half a century. The Tax evasion controversy is a sore spot but for everything he did for the club the Bayern fans forgave him immediately. You should look into it, its been an inspiring story. Bayern did a short documentary about him when he stepped down for retirement(until this summer of course) but its in german. @@nkohu
@@nkohu also note that he retired as a player very early because of his Injury, he also played for 1-2 Years at augsburg I think or smt like that, until he got the call to become a manager at bayern
Class club, always has been, always will be. We could talk about Bayern's footballing successes all day, but what matters is, club is built on a healthy foundation and it remained that way till this day. Really can't understand how somebody can hate this institution, unless you are a Dortmund or 1859+1 fan.
Maybe the fact that bayern is 10-20x richer, with more members and thus more revenue than any other German club, plus the fact that bayern regularly poach all their rival's best players to ensure their continued stranglehold domination of German football, as well as your arrogant and unlikeable players might have something to do with why Bayern aren't exactly popular. Idk tho, just a theory
@@krisdudas-hjelms7036 So basically, what you told me is, rational reason to hate Bayern is pure jealousy. I can understand why you would think that. Can't relate tho. In footballing terms, Bayern is absolutely unmatched and it does not seem like their dominance will stop anytime soon, not just in Germany. Bayern is a true testament of how a club can be so successful, great, and still not be pulled through the mud by anyone, unlike certain Spanish club that pays off refs, was deeply intertwined with Franco's fascist regime, overpays average football players, humiliates their legends and still gets trashed regulary by footballing institutions that Bayern München and Real Madrid are. Keep crying, just not here on my comment. Go find some other miserable fans of smaller clubs, they will understand you better than I ever could. 8-2.
@@Hecci1006 Human beings are a conscious forms of life. Whether it's the Bundesliga club presidents, CEOs and other decision makers, or players themselves, they get to choose what they want and they obviously want Bayern. So what are they supposed to do? Be shit on purpose just to satisfy you?
ALFIE! As a jew, who’s a spurs fan, I really appreciate this video. I come from a strong jewish background, this was mainly the reason I became a spurs fan, after observing the “Yiddo” chant. Extremely empowering to hear one of the first presidents of Bayern was jewish! Keep up the amazing stuff !
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 558) I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored. If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
Got speaking to a German fella over dayz recently, it turns out they do NOT find nazi jokes funny. Made a comment about his name having two s's and got yelled at
As a devotee Hindu I first want to thank you my brother. ❤ I thank you for kindly explaining the true history of Swastika. In Hinduism 🕉️ and other Sanatani Dharmas Swastika plays a very big role in our faith. It is not our fault that some guy from Austria 🇦🇹 with a funny moustache responsible for the death and destruction of many innocent lives, decided to use Swastika as his political symbol. Hindu and India has no dark history associated with persecution of Jews, Romani, Trans and many more marginalised group. Swastika belongs to my Sanatani Brothers and sisters. In India 🇮🇳 we can proudly show Swastika, but the same cannot be said for Sanatani people living outside India. (Especially in Europe, Israel and American Continents) We need to reclaim our Swastika and our History 😢😢😢😢😢
Thank you very much for educating people with this video. Bayern were victims of the nazis. In my experience it’s only fanbases of teams that get demolished by Bayern like Barca that bring up the Nazi era logo
It never ceases to amaze me how once oppressed people, murdered by the millions, can turn around and massacre and oppress another People. 😢😪 I really hope we give peace a chance soon in the region... 🙏 Thoughts and prayers to all the victims.
Loving the fact that you use the social model of disability way of referring to disabled people. Means a lot. Thanks Alfie! Also thank you for drawing attention to the abuses against the Roma and Sinti people that was happening long before 1939, it often gets over looked.
Hats off for tackling such a controversial and difficult topic. I appreciate you want to tackle a negative narrative and shine a light on a side that people outside of Germany won't have heard about. However you could just as well point out that many at the club were dedicated followers of the regime and joined the NSDAP long before they actually came to power. VP Harlacher comes to mind, but there were others. There were a lot of dedicated Nazis at the club, otherwise it would not have been allowed to continue. I suggest that people who are interested do some additional reading and make up your own mind. I personally think you are being a bit to kind to Bayern, but it's nice that you remind people that there were people who showed resistance in Germany. It's a very complex era of German history and you'll find that most sporting institution will have similar stories. By that I mean people who didn't agree with persecutions of jews and others had to find little ways to show disapproval, but ultimately had to toe the line.
Btw, at 1:03 , the big Svastika (mispelled intentionally) is straight rather than tilted. That means it is now the symbol of peace and well-being; quite the contrary of the Third Reich. 🤓😂
Didn't Franco have the same view of Barcelona who were catalonian while Real Madrid being from the capital of Spain have always been seen as the club of the Spanish establishment
It’s an iffy relationship tbh, Franco preferred atlético at one point before Real Madrid he also helped build the camp boy. Franco’s influence in Spanish football is very complex and not as clear cut as many Barca fans Would like to you believe
It’s finally nice to see something Hitler hated in Germany going on to be massively successful. 🤔 I’ve just read that back and that’s going to be pretty controversial amongst German readers who will most likely totally agree with my dislike for Hitler and those people in my country who seem to think we are enemies with Germany. But for the sake of diplomacy I will point out that the UK and USA are also largely responsible for it too. So although my comment will probably sit badly with many people. It’s also objectively true. (Have I just made things worse 🕳️)
Never heard of this guy but hating Bayern has to be the worst thing he’s ever done
There's something you need to know..........
Agreed. Very short sighted of him. I hope that’s a trait he didn’t exhibit in other areas of his life and career.
@@profia457...the best in the world his name's Bobby Firminoooo
Lmfao 😆👏
@@nifynitm he did, I heard he was an excellent painter
There was once an article that claimed Hitler was a Schalke fan. Schalke responded saying it was nonsense and that Schalke were just the most successful team during Hiter's reign. They stated "To conclude Hitler was a fan of Schalke 04 because they won most of the titles during his regime must make Margaret Thatcher a Liverpool fan. Funnily enough she didn't make the list."
Schalke was basically the Bayern of the 1930s and early 40s, just absurdly dominant in the same way that Bayern is today. Of course, the Nazis tried to use this for their propaganda and explained their success as being due to inherently German characteristics - awkwardly, Schalke's team and especially its stars was in large part of Polish heritage, with the two defining Schalke legends of the time having the not, uh, exactly uber-germanic names Szepan and Kuzorra.
@@lnhart7157. Only one problem: many of those Polish players endorsed the Nazi Party multiple times and accepted the association of their working class roots with Nazism. (Are you kidding me? 🤦🤦🏿♂️)
@@lnhart7157 Germans did not see themselves as better than other people. You should dig past the propaganda and there is plenty of evidence. Why would he align himself with Asians, Africans and Arabs as well as other European nations like Italy, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, and Croatia...
When Jesse Owens won gold in Berlin, Hitler praised him. In his own autobiography, he stated that his own president, FDR, did not acknowledge his achievement. “Hitler didn't snub me-it was our president who snubbed me… The president didn't even send me a telegram.” - Jesse Owens.
@@manniking233thats probably because they didnt want to be killed
Thatcher liverpool fan 😂😂😂
Thank you for clearing this up! This is such an awful joke that is incredibly annoying, not to mention ignorant.
As a Bayern Munich fan the fact that it has been used as banter when the club president at the time was Jewish just angers me to no end
You should hear what Murdoch-quoting idiots say about France.
@@escape2nirvanaturns out there’s the occasional residual effects to mass genocide and trying to take over like a third of the world. Who knew?
I feel you man
@@escape2nirvana i just laugh at them because they have no clue and so i just admit their own world thinking :)
This is far better than the Bayern museum even has. When living in Munich, I knew of prominent members of the club being arrested, but was under the impression even after visiting their museum, that the club was relatively pro-Nazi. Brilliant video
Would you not think that the Bayern Munich museum is a better source of truth on Bayern history than a British guy on UA-cam?
@@SamS-uv2qlcause they can purge the worse parts of their history to present a squeeky clean image to the world maybe?
@@hellyeahdude You've got it the wrong way round. The club are presenting themselves in a worse light than thus channel apparently
@@SamS-uv2ql I think the guy is suggesting that the museum doesn't do enough to dispel the myths about Bayern and Nazism, rather than that they actively "present themselves in a worse light" there. Like, maybe they don't have enough space to talk about it with all the room the last 60 years of success must take up, or maybe there is a will there to play it safe, avoid controversy etc. Or some reason that isn't immediately obvious to me.
I wouldn't know myself if that is fair or not as I've never even been to that museum, or Germany at all. But that is what "jackpalmer" is saying, I'm pretty sure.
There is absolutely nothing that indicated the club is or was pro-Nazi. There are literally lgbt flags amongst Bayern ultras every FUCKING game. Anti-nazism is deeply rooted in Bayern and it's a well known fact. If you've lived in Munich and have a rudimentary knowledge of German football, I do not see how you could have seen things the way you did. Maybe you could explain a bit further in replies here.
Thank you for this Alfie. Always pissed me off when people who know no history of my club call it the Nazi club
Still hate your club. Just not as much as I did before watching this video.
Nazi club!
The thing that’s sad too is that by making those jokes about Bayern it really just means that the nazis are succeeding in their goal to rebrand the club and promote nazism.
@@ranchsauce3232 Sad? You mean awesome 💪🏻
@@ranchsauce3232tbf it has nothing to do with the club but the country, and since Bayern is by far the most successful team in the country currently you can see the correlation
I was just at bayern Munich museum last week, and this exactly explains much of what was described on many of the walls! Fantastic club, great history and tradition. And of course, one that I admire and respect as a Manchester United fan
how was that 4/3 loss in the ucl
jkjk
@@odinsky7 United did well though
@@odinsky7 😂 bayern deserve the win, 4-3 flattered us. good for the goal difference that we didn’t lose by much
@@odinsky7Expected. We still have great relations with them, ever since 1958, what did you want to achieve with that comment?
Maybe a video on Spanish clubs during francoist spain would be good. So much argument between Madrid and Barca fans on which club got favoured by the government
Everyone knows it was Madrid.
It was actually neither. Barcelona were probably loathed by Franco and Real Madrid weren’t particularly liked by him either but he used both at different times for propaganda purposes. The team Franco actually supported, was Atletico Madrid (then known as Atletico Aviacion).
Uhm pretty sure there’s no arguing WHO of the 2 got favoured 😂😂 but more like Barca complaining that RMA got favoured and the fact that Barca were being discriminated while RMA supporters being proud of Franco supporting them and hating Barca for the same reasons Franco hated them: having a very strong regional identity instead of a nationalist one and being more supportive of anti-fascist forces during the civil war.
@@thefutbolfollower8326 Franco himself settled the di Stefano affair in favor of RM over Barca. The *direct* and *immediate* result of that was 5 champions league trophies in a row.
Lol. 😂 I wonder who he favoured!
The more I learn about this Нitler character, the less I like him. He was a real jerk.
He was a meanie pants
Lol you're not supposed to like him.
@@A-se2ur He was a big fan of animals, probably only had to save up some of his good vibes exclusively for them
Norm MacDonald?
@@connortraynor6055 yessir
As a citizen of Munich, I thank you for this impartial record.
As a lifelong Bayern fan, thank you, Alfie, for a very good and comprehensive look at this.
Alfie you should make a separate channel for history without any mention of football since your voice is just iconic to listen to.
He should study history first, chatting shit on football is not the same
@@DB-uf6md "chatting shit on football is not the same" - This makes zero sense since the video clearly goes into detail about the reign of Hitler during 1938-1945 clearly has a direct impact on football in Germany? Most importantly since they used it as a massive propaganda tool ?
@@M-bd9qx it makes perfect sense. If you want a history lesson you go to listen to someone whos somewhat credible/knowledgeable, for instance mark felton.
Making a video about what happened to x team is not in the same ballpark as taking apart historic subjects. With all my respect to alfie, hes got some blatant errors in some of his videos when he goes into some geopolitical or cultural facets of his topic, which is fine and understandable, its not his job.
I actually agree
@DB-uf6md so basically his errors are you dont agree with what he said whens hes just stated who was fighting and where and for what reason 😂
Hartlepool United was the only ground bombed from the air in WW1 (by a Zeppelin) and in WW2 (several times) and also Hartlepool was the first town in mainland UK to be bombed (by sea).
Obviously the guy was a Darlo fan.
Out of all places it suprises me that Germany decide to bomb Victoria park
yeah but on the other hand, there's the monkey
When I was visiting my grandmother living in Hartlepool I went to a united game with her and I picked up their kit because it looked really cool. At the darlington train station to go back down to london I got a few shouts from local Darlo fans, glad I wasn't bombed.
@@T.E.S.S. The monkey story is next level bananas.
@@ThatSamuel24too stop inbreeding
thank you. your content is the only thing keeping me sane when scrolling too much on youtube / instagram comments.
Had no idea Bayern was this courageous. Wow. Honestly shook.
I am now a fan of Bayern Munich, what a wonderful story and history 🤝🏼
Well, u could have been a fan of them back in the nazi-era...and maybe even i would have been...but today they are getting sponsored by the dictators that pay the best (Qatar Airways in the past for example) like everyone else. Dont be fooled^^
Welcome 🔴⚪️👊
@@BAVARIAN2004 was hardly you making the decision pal 🤣 bro thinks hes him
Bayern is legendary club♥️♥️
Thanks for making this, Alfie. I'm no fan of Bayern as I dislike any club dominating a league like they do, but the accusations of them being Nazis is unfair and untrue.
I wish people would do their reseach but I guess that's pretty pie in the sky...
well you must hate mancity then too ;) no diverence between the dominance in the bundesliga or premier league ;) if bundesliga is a farmers league so is the premier league
@@ajar1900 hate is a strong word but I do hate their dominance.
Im the same I could never support Bayern, Man United (back in the day), Celtic, PSG etc.
@@Black-Mal what if your club started dominating the league tho? We all want our clubs to win, and obviously none of us would stop being a fan if they do so
@@TheGerminator43 I’ve way less of a problem with those people than the bandwagon jumpers tbh.
The algorithm is gonna love this video, good timing Alfie 🤣
Right!
While we're on the subject of the Nazis trying and failing to use football for propaganda purposes, here's one of my all-time favourite footballing anecdotes:
In 1938, England played Germany in Berlin, and were forced to perform the Nazi salute as part of the UK's appeasement policy at the time. The players *hated* being made to do so, and fueled by that rage, they thumped Germany 6-3. One of England's six goals - described by Stanley Matthews as "probably the greatest goal I ever saw" - was scored by a Jewish forward named Len Goulden. From 25 yards out, he struck a volley with enough force to partially rip the net off the crossbar, then wheeled away and yelled "Let 'em salute that one!"
Legend.
A Chelsea man! You love to see it ❤️
Where as now football isn't used for propaganda purposes is it? Players don't get sacked from their clubs for refusing to promote LGBT+ or for daring to suggest civilians need aid in gaza...
@@Bugdenl I never said it wasn't? Not sure why you're bringing that up?
@@F1Krazy Your opener was about propaganda, yet you used a term which is itself propaganda, within that statement. Hope it helps.
@@Bugdenl Still not with you, I'm afraid. What "propaganda" term did I use?
This was super interesting. I have seen the same comment about Bayern's logo during that period, used as a quick insult, so many times. Thank you for providing important context.
His missing ball actually made him difficult to defend against especially when he would drop the shoulder and do a wicked turn.
The one that was in the Albert Hall…..
Both of Pootin's balls fell off now too
Small correction Alfie:
By all accounts, Hitler didn’t take Jesse Owens winning some medals very badly. He apparently either waved or nazi saluted Jesse Owens in a quick exchange, according to Jesse Owens himself and other eye witnesses. He didn’t officially congratulate any winners of medals, except a few German ones I believe, because the IOC had told him he should either congratulate everyone, or nobody. He chose to congratulate nobody. Foreign press explained this as Jesse Owens being ‘snubbed’ by Hitler and that Hitler was ‘very upset’, but all accounts we have of the Olympics point towards Hitler not losing a single night’s sleep over it.
Jesse Owens himself has always maintained the United States treated him even worse than the Germans. The US was still an apartheid state at this point. People simply pretended he never won a medal. While other athletes received awards and celebrations, he and the other black athletes were basically told to sit in the back of the bus again. Only in 2016, Barack Obama invited the families of Jesse Owens and other black athletes over to show an official sign of appreciation from the white house.
All of this is correct
@@YBM2007 your opinion was 100% necessary here, thank you for adding and contributing so much
@@melvinc23 and you disagree how?
Facts! 💯
I love all your content bro, but this is just wonderful.
Have a look at Vasco Da Gama, how they were initially formed and fought against racism.
Their story made me a fan of them nearly 100 years later and living 5000 miles away.
Great work lad 👏👏👏
Daamn just check their story thanks to your comment and it's indeed beautiful how they stand against racism!!
Danke Sehr
You have no idea how much me needed a well made video tackling this topic.
I love your history-and-football documentaries Alfie, you're the GOAT
I'm presuming you enjoyed making this video more than most & it was also very sad too. I greatly appreciate it being Jewish myself & a job well done. I can be critical at times in some of your videos but this is a 10/10. Thank you Alfie 🙏🏼
Thanks for clearing this issue hopefully some of my friends will see this and correct their stance
Some of your very best work Alfie. Well done mate
I liked this video too, but it could give a little more space to Kurt Landauer's non-re-election. This election showed, there were actually also a lot of Nazis in the club. They voted for a Handball guy. And that after Bayern Munich was the first football club with a license after the war. Kurt Landauer was a big help at this moment.
Finally someone is making a video about this
Hopefully clowns and casuals can stop calling us Nazi Club
I still hate your team. Just not as much as I did before watching this video.
@@jediknight5600 Goodluck with that
@@jediknight5600 Haters gonna hate but they can never take away our 6 ucls
@@ekamsingh16406 trophies fir the Nazis, great achievement
still hate bayern for the 8-2
Very eye opening Alfie, a great job very well done!
Just from the title can see this is gonna be another great deep dive - great content mate 🔥
Wow that intro hit me me hard. Well done. I had no idea about most of this.
Why Osama Bin Laden hated Al Nassr
This would make an incredible heartfelt sports movie.
Thank you for this video Alfie, I can now just send people this instead of having to type out an essay as to why making jokes about Bayerns badge is distasteful.
That Zaan post after the loss to Bayern😭
Oh dear you're one of them
It's a joke mate go cry some more
What's the difference between celtic69 and the Bayern team in 1940?
One enjoyed knocking back farts
Ahahaha get it? Because you said you were a rainbow person in another videos comment section
@@saintpepsi8602the hell are you babbling about ? 😂
@@benjaminbronnimann3966 oh the original commenter is one of them really left wing fart knockers who gets offended by everything
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Thanks for making a great video about one of my favorite teams. I already knew a lot about this topic but still learned a ton. Another great video from Alfie!
One of my favourite teams? Oh please, yet another one of these international plastic fans?
Oh no. A random person on the internet has an opinion on how I should live my life. Whatever will I do? I guess I'll change my life completely to appease them.
Why Stalin Hated Spartak Moscow
Is that a real thing? Lol
What ? As far as I know, in the first years of the championship, the USSR was dominated by Dynamo and Spartak Moscow. You can explain!
Why Napoleon hated PSG
@aqeel-3771why is that?
@@rumblebird9888Why? 😮
I know it's a joke. 😅
You should do a history like this on Barca and Real Madrid in the franco era
Alfie, wonderful video as always. Recommendation - 7 best players to retire between 30-32
Fascinating video, I visited Bayern for the first time this weekend and never knew this. Love learning more about clubs rish history.
Interesting side note: Austria Vienna was temporarily banned under Nazi rule, while their bitter rivals SK Rapid competed in and succesfully won the German Bundesliga, despite being located in Vienna.
In that time Bundesliga didn't exist, they won the german final. Also in that time austria was part of germany ("Ostmark") after the nazis had taken it, with sometimes overwhelming support by the austrians themselves.
For some completely unrelated reason I’m kinda liking Bayern Munich a bit more than I used to.
@Marcothemanmarcotbf all of the clubs in Germany are very likeable
@@rlc04-__Yes I’m a Bayern Mexican fan but I like German Football a lot. Their fans are one of the bests
Alfie, you have outperformed your consistent quality and insight with this video. Outstanding work. Works like this are becoming iincreasingly valuable as fascism makes another of its periodic resurrections. Your observations of Jewish integration into German society during the period of prosperity early in the century illustrate a fundamental fact about fascism. The bullying and persecution of The Other only appear when societies are stressed, most commonly by economic crisis (the Great Depression), but also during ethnic migrations, periods of national humiliation (Treaty of Versailles), and most recently as Western culture has encountered the inflection point of cultural evolution. It is most obvious in the U.S. where the abrupt increase in the rate of cultural evolution, with the advent of The Information Age has revealed our species' inability to adapt to environmental change beyond a certain rate. American society is beginning to turn on itself in a manner reminiscent of 1930's Germany, with the emergence of Hitler analogs like Trump. As in Germany under Hitler, our fascists are searching for scapegoats, the weakest groups in society to subject to potentially fatal bullying.
My point is Thank you for helping to illustrate this particular human failing in such a timely fashion.
Fascinating video, Alfie. Quite insightful. Thank you for making it.
Been waiting for a video like this, so thank you for informing people on this. Football fans on Twitter are pathetic, and I doubt they will stop with these jokes anytime soon. Would like to see a video on the social media side of things in football these days, and the toxic culture it brings. Keep up the good work!
The twitter fans don’t care about facts they are some of the most shameless individuals because it will get them interactions
I'm going to go post a Bayern meme on there now after reading this
cool@@saintpepsi8602
True, interactions that will get them nowhere in life as well
Why Mussolini hated AC Milan
That was because he was a Lazio fan!
@@SuperMickyChowlazio fans are a bunch of facists
@@SuperMickyChow That's not true. Benito Mussolini founded the AS Roma club. And he made it in the red and gold colors to show respect for the Roman Empire and its civilization and dominance. The Lazio traitors didn't want to join back then. But that was a long time ago. The two ultras from the clubs are right-wing fascists. Even after all this time. The loyalty is absolutely admirable.
He is roma fan@@SuperMickyChow
I love yur videos! I actually didn't know about the badge change so I would have been confused by someone mentioning it...
Glad to see you clear up such a lazy point people make about Bayern
What that Hitler played for there youth team ?
Landau might survived the Holocaust and became the president of Bayern München again but to live with the fact that all his family members were murdered was really hard :((
That thumbnail is class😂
I just found out about Bayern history thought it was strange they only recently talked about the history.
Also surprised Shalke was a powerhouse back then.
as always, very well researched
Never really followed the Bundesliga until this season, when Kane moving to Bayern made me jump on the bandwagon. Thank you for making me less ashamed of what’s now my favourite German club.
you should watch Europa: The Last Battle to find out the truth about WW1, WW2, and what AH was fighting against.
@@smokeymcpot1799can you link it pls
Even if the history was true… why should you be shamed? The modern club is obviously far from Nazi. The fans are very liberal and inclusive. Btw the history about landauer, his role and importance for the club was researched by the fans and not the club itself. That’s the thing about German football. As a fan you can literally change your club and motivate them for taking action in professional research and so on. Also the new statue in front of the Allianz Arena of Gerd Müller was also initiated by its fans.
@@smokeymcpot1799white right wing propaganda movie… no thanks, the only people who recommended that garbage are neo nazis with “⚡️⚡️” in their usernames but nice try tho
Another exemplary video highlighting a topic very few content creators would take on due to its sensitive nature. This is why I watch HITC Sevens, and also why you deserve UA-cam's best football content creator.
Thank you for making this. EPL fans need more education outside of top 5 clubs lol. As a Bayern fan, you hear so much ignorance from EPL fans who learn the sport from FIFA lol
La Liga fans (some of them) also bark a lot tbh
I'm not ignorant about Bayern. I hate Bayern because they have made the league with the best fans a completely boring, predictable waste of time. All helped along by the idiot other teams in Germany.
@taftybufty in America EPL fans are the loudest. At least where I live there aren't many La Liga fans (in supporters groups at least).
@jediknight5600 fair enough haha the league came down to an 87th minute goal last year though.
@@mikexstad1121America is a continent. USA is a country. In America are a lot of LaLiga fans (south and Central America) Commonly RM and Barca fans.
Hi Alfie, do you think you could do a video on Armenia Bielefeld. They’ve suffered a double relegation and I’d be intrigued to know why.
Not only that but they also sit in the relegation zone of the 3. Liga so they might get relegated 3x in a row
Hard to make a video about a club from a town that doesn't exist.
did they lose some games
Some Commeters after this Video:
Come on Alfie, why are you always making political references. I mean now you even comparing people to Hitler (I am not smart and can't read the title or listen to the video). Before this I was a long-term subscriber of 2 days. Now after you suddenly turned political, you have lost me and I am sure you will now change your ways, because I am a weirdo in the comments.
Irony Off: I have read parts of this word for word on this channel and its baffling.
I think you changed premise like three times and grossly misrepresented what should be a pretty easy position to hold.
Yeah Alfie, just tone down literally anything that makes your channel special! Just kidding, I'm quite glad someone dives as deep into topics as he does. There is already more than enough shallow entertainment focused content on UA-cam about Football (which can also be executed properly, don't get me wrong). I don't get these people, just watch something else and quit acting as if Alfie's Style is objectively flawed with him mentioning politics. There is a difference between valid criticizm and your own opinion. I for example wouldn't go to the Irish Guys channel and comment about me disliking his loud screechy voice. I just don't like it as much but there is nothing objectively wrong with it. Maybe a lot of people writing that kind of stuff use football as an escape from real life and feel uncomfortable hearing about the harsh reality.
Typically leftie Alfie always demonising the right wing in his videos. I don’t mean Salah, Saka, Rodrygo.
You haven't seen what happens when Alfie talks about climate change..........despite the fact that it CAN affect football in general.
Great video and narration, as usual, keep it up!
Very interesting, relevant to what's happening at the moment.
Have you considered doing a video on the Yugoslav 89-90 season where one of the final games Red Star Belgrade v Dynamo Zagreb which reportedly caused the start of the war
I’m pretty sure centuries of ethnic tension in a region famous for instability started that war. But I could be wrong.
The Russia vs Ukraine Euro 2000 qualifying game at Moscow, which saw Ukraine qualifying for that tournament instead of Russia on a dramatic fashion, was considered as a major catalyst for the broken relationship between the two big former Soviet members that led to the military conflict, especially after Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, and a full-scale war in 2022.
This is a great video. Very educational. Cleared up a whole lot, Alfie. The trolling agenda will still agend pal 👍🏾
just to be clear that as a dortmund fan i still hate bayern just as much as i did before this video, but only because i never thought they were nazis to begin with, that’s stupid.
now if you’ll excuse me, i’m gonna continue crying over last season and hating harry kane, thanks
Your opening is gold! Kudos for it!
I learnt this little tid bit on Wikipedia and my respect for Bayern Munchen soared to impossible heights
Love videos on football history. Thank you for this
I always love hearing about Nazi actions or quotes that point out how painfully out of touch and warped their world views were to where “winning a match is more important to the people than the capture of a town somewhere in the East” is an actual realization an actual nazi had 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
like yes no shit Joseph, and then bro proceeded to ban them from losing 🤣😭
I thought that Alfie would talk about Schalke 04 in that period, it was controversy
First time in my life Ive ever heard of this controversy over Bayern. Good on them for their efforts to fight off Nazism in their club and community. RIP to all those connected with the club who suffered under Hitler. YNWA from your friends in Liverpool.
Odd timing to be bringing up the Austrian painter....
You really have to love the British sense of humour, we really do know how to deadpan our way through a tirade against Hitler.
another interesting Bayern story would be Uli Hoeneß, he made Bayern to what it is today almost singlehandedly
How so?
Player (1970-1979):
Joined Bayern Munich in 1970.
Played as a forward.
Achievements: Won three Bundesliga titles, three European Cups, one DFB-Pokal, and one Intercontinental Cup.
Part of the legendary team alongside players like Franz Beckenbauer and Gerd Müller.
General Manager (1979-2009):
Took over as the club's general manager just months after his playing career ended due to injury.
Not to mention that when he took over Bayern was in debt, he made them financially stable immediately and since then Bayern has never been in the minus EVER.
Oversaw one of the most successful periods in Bayern's history, turning the club into a football powerhouse both on and off the pitch.
Achievements: Multiple Bundesliga titles, UEFA Champions League victories, and other domestic and international trophies.
President (2009-2019, 2019-2022):
Elected as president of the club in 2009.
Brief hiatus: In 2014, Hoeneß was convicted of tax evasion and subsequently resigned as president. He served half of a 3.5-year prison sentence.
Re-elected as president in 2016 after his release.
Did not stand for re-election in 2022 and stepped down.
Legacy:
Immensely influential in transforming Bayern Munich into one of the world's most successful and wealthiest football clubs.
Not without controversy, particularly the tax evasion conviction.
His involvement in the club, from player to executive, means he's been integral to the Bayern Munich story for over half a century.
The Tax evasion controversy is a sore spot but for everything he did for the club the Bayern fans forgave him immediately. You should look into it, its been an inspiring story.
Bayern did a short documentary about him when he stepped down for retirement(until this summer of course) but its in german.
@@nkohu
@@nkohu also note that he retired as a player very early because of his Injury, he also played for 1-2 Years at augsburg I think or smt like that, until he got the call to become a manager at bayern
@@matthiaskarageorgiou3784it was Nürnberg and he was 27 as he took over bayern with 3 million DM or so in debt
yes correct but 3 millions back in the day were a much bigger number compared to now@@dwayenway
Great video, thanks Alfie.
Thank you for finally cancelling Hitler Alfie. He’s gotten away with this for too long.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
Class club, always has been, always will be. We could talk about Bayern's footballing successes all day, but what matters is, club is built on a healthy foundation and it remained that way till this day. Really can't understand how somebody can hate this institution, unless you are a Dortmund or 1859+1 fan.
Every Bundesliga fan hates Bayern
Maybe the fact that bayern is 10-20x richer, with more members and thus more revenue than any other German club, plus the fact that bayern regularly poach all their rival's best players to ensure their continued stranglehold domination of German football, as well as your arrogant and unlikeable players might have something to do with why Bayern aren't exactly popular. Idk tho, just a theory
@@krisdudas-hjelms7036 So basically, what you told me is, rational reason to hate Bayern is pure jealousy. I can understand why you would think that. Can't relate tho. In footballing terms, Bayern is absolutely unmatched and it does not seem like their dominance will stop anytime soon, not just in Germany. Bayern is a true testament of how a club can be so successful, great, and still not be pulled through the mud by anyone, unlike certain Spanish club that pays off refs, was deeply intertwined with Franco's fascist regime, overpays average football players, humiliates their legends and still gets trashed regulary by footballing institutions that Bayern München and Real Madrid are. Keep crying, just not here on my comment. Go find some other miserable fans of smaller clubs, they will understand you better than I ever could. 8-2.
@@dandaratramadol3007 no the reason people hate bayern is that they bulk buy all the talent in germany.
@@Hecci1006 Human beings are a conscious forms of life. Whether it's the Bundesliga club presidents, CEOs and other decision makers, or players themselves, they get to choose what they want and they obviously want Bayern. So what are they supposed to do? Be shit on purpose just to satisfy you?
way to go on this one. thank you Alfie
ALFIE! As a jew, who’s a spurs fan, I really appreciate this video. I come from a strong jewish background, this was mainly the reason I became a spurs fan, after observing the “Yiddo” chant. Extremely empowering to hear one of the first presidents of Bayern was jewish! Keep up the amazing stuff !
Do u hate Muslim arsenal fans
Excellent video, thanks for your hard work APH!
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 558)
I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
Thank you alfie! Great video king!
Another great video ! Love the history ones
That they title and pic are insane, never thought I’d see hitc sevens of all accounts talking about gom
Got speaking to a German fella over dayz recently, it turns out they do NOT find nazi jokes funny. Made a comment about his name having two s's and got yelled at
Jeez
Understandable, anyways. I guess if I made a joke about me, being an Argentine descendent from German people, I'd get in big trouble. Am I right?
Depends on the people, I'm Roma and I really couldn't care about jokes; we don't really play the oppression Olympics either@@Elmesiasdelgol2022
What was the joke? Could you repeat it please
@@Ultima-Signatwo s’s in his name… guess…
Excellent research, thank you for setting the record straight.
7 clubs that defied fascism/nazism?
I would like to nominate my club Hajduk Split.
Didn't they have a red star on their badge for a while, though?
You get no credit for opposing evil if you get into bed with another evil.
@@aidanmagill6769 did you literally watch this video on Bayern?
@@aidanmagill6769They had a red star for the same reason Bayern had a swastika
As a devotee Hindu I first want to thank you my brother. ❤ I thank you for kindly explaining the true history of Swastika. In Hinduism 🕉️ and other Sanatani Dharmas Swastika plays a very big role in our faith. It is not our fault that some guy from Austria 🇦🇹 with a funny moustache responsible for the death and destruction of many innocent lives, decided to use Swastika as his political symbol. Hindu and India has no dark history associated with persecution of Jews, Romani, Trans and many more marginalised group. Swastika belongs to my Sanatani Brothers and sisters. In India 🇮🇳 we can proudly show Swastika, but the same cannot be said for Sanatani people living outside India. (Especially in Europe, Israel and American Continents)
We need to reclaim our Swastika and our History 😢😢😢😢😢
Thank you very much for educating people with this video. Bayern were victims of the nazis. In my experience it’s only fanbases of teams that get demolished by Bayern like Barca that bring up the Nazi era logo
"Victims" no, they were punished justly for their collaboration with the Jews
It was the best logo the club has ever had.
@@smokeymcpot1799 you’re a Nazi?
You still had that logo
@@EliasRoy Yes but as I said, Bayern did not chose to use that logo, they were forced to. FC Bayern was anti nazi from the very beginning
alfie is a living breathing walking “HE DOESNT MISSSS” spongebob meme
I think that man hating Bayern should be the least of our concerns 💀
Brilliant and interesting video. This history of Bayern is something I’d never known about.
It never ceases to amaze me how once oppressed people, murdered by the millions, can turn around and massacre and oppress another People. 😢😪
I really hope we give peace a chance soon in the region... 🙏
Thoughts and prayers to all the victims.
antisemite
Fun fact after the Anschluss the Austrian teams joined the German League. And Rapid Wien (Vienna) actually won the cup in 1939 and the league in 1941.
Loving the fact that you use the social model of disability way of referring to disabled people. Means a lot. Thanks Alfie! Also thank you for drawing attention to the abuses against the Roma and Sinti people that was happening long before 1939, it often gets over looked.
Great video as always! Can you do one explaining what's going on with Ajax this year?
Proud to be a Bayern fan... Miasanmia❤
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❤Ich liebe FC Bayern Munchen Die Manschafft 👍🏻💪🏻❤from 🏴
Hats off for tackling such a controversial and difficult topic. I appreciate you want to tackle a negative narrative and shine a light on a side that people outside of Germany won't have heard about. However you could just as well point out that many at the club were dedicated followers of the regime and joined the NSDAP long before they actually came to power. VP Harlacher comes to mind, but there were others. There were a lot of dedicated Nazis at the club, otherwise it would not have been allowed to continue.
I suggest that people who are interested do some additional reading and make up your own mind. I personally think you are being a bit to kind to Bayern, but it's nice that you remind people that there were people who showed resistance in Germany.
It's a very complex era of German history and you'll find that most sporting institution will have similar stories. By that I mean people who didn't agree with persecutions of jews and others had to find little ways to show disapproval, but ultimately had to toe the line.
Btw, at 1:03 , the big Svastika (mispelled intentionally) is straight rather than tilted. That means it is now the symbol of peace and well-being; quite the contrary of the Third Reich. 🤓😂
thats hekenkreuz, not swastika
@@मृदुलशर्माwhich are the same things
Jesse Owens himself said that Hitler had not snubbed him but Franklin Roosevelt had
If only the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts had seen sense and accepted Hitler, we may not have had that little blip in history we call World War 2
Would have been someone or something else, since WW2 in Europe was at its core a continuation from the armistice in 1918
Ehrenalfie! Good job, mate.
Didn't Franco have the same view of Barcelona who were catalonian while Real Madrid being from the capital of Spain have always been seen as the club of the Spanish establishment
It’s an iffy relationship tbh, Franco preferred atlético at one point before Real Madrid he also helped build the camp boy. Franco’s influence in Spanish football is very complex and not as clear cut as many Barca fans Would like to you believe
Franco was more of a supporter of Atletico Madrid. The club supported by the air force.
@@escape2nirvana Nonsense
@@EliasRoy not really google is free dummy
Great video 👏
It’s finally nice to see something Hitler hated in Germany going on to be massively successful.
🤔 I’ve just read that back and that’s going to be pretty controversial amongst German readers who will most likely totally agree with my dislike for Hitler and those people in my country who seem to think we are enemies with Germany. But for the sake of diplomacy I will point out that the UK and USA are also largely responsible for it too. So although my comment will probably sit badly with many people. It’s also objectively true. (Have I just made things worse 🕳️)
You like living in a communist dystopian nightmare?
@@smokeymcpot1799 I understand the words you’ve said. I’m just not sure about what you are saying. Please elaborate.
@@Toxic-Ology Global communism won WW2. We are all under the boot of the world bankers, you know, the people AH was trying to stop.