Why Barcelona and Real Madrid need each other

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    Historically, Florentino Perez and Joan Laporta have been on opposite sides as Real Madrid and Barcelona have battled for domination of La Liga - and often for the Champions League trophy, too.
    But recent events have driven them and their clubs together, which could have repercussions for the future of Spanish football, and the future of the Super League.
    How? Dermot Corrigan explains, Craig Silcock illustrates.
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  • @patitoduck123
    @patitoduck123 Рік тому +2035

    Florentino said it himself, a strong Barcelona is good for Madrid and La Liga. It’s been like this for the last 20 years. They might be rivals, but they need each other and make each other better. There’s a reason they’re almost always top 3 clubs in the world.

    • @vzero8612
      @vzero8612 Рік тому +44

      Madrid is carrying Barca and la liga.

    • @adrienfut3574
      @adrienfut3574 Рік тому +177

      @@vzero8612 lol.

    • @davidshatto7604
      @davidshatto7604 Рік тому +258

      @@vzero8612 barca is leading the league by 8 points? Very confusing and bad take lol

    • @ANONYMOUS-gp9bo
      @ANONYMOUS-gp9bo Рік тому +21

      @@davidshatto7604 meanwhile, rocking Europa.

    • @dude99844
      @dude99844 Рік тому +107

      @@ANONYMOUS-gp9bo what does that say about la liga then 😂

  • @giog3280
    @giog3280 Рік тому +249

    The fans may hate each other, but the leadership of both clubs have always been very friendly with each other. It's called El Classico, but I've always called it ' The Spanish Old Firm.'

    • @keirebu.bakure
      @keirebu.bakure 16 днів тому

      That’s a great name for it 👏🏾

  • @arthurahabwe1301
    @arthurahabwe1301 Рік тому +647

    Damn. Florentino perez seems to have a lot of power and influence in Spain and European football. He seems to have influence not just in spanish football, but also in other sectors of the Spain.

    • @Vilamonjo
      @Vilamonjo Рік тому +149

      Indeed. Florentino its no just Real Madrid president, he is a real state and construction entrepreneur, and has a lot of contracts with the Spanish goverment (not only on spain tho), so he has a lot of leverage with public and private sectors alike. He its quite "powerfull".

    • @ander4163
      @ander4163 Рік тому +42

      Also he is the CEO or owner (I'm not sure)bof ACS the biggest construction company in the world

    • @CheGypter
      @CheGypter Рік тому +20

      He has been able to alter the laws for eligibility for election at Madrid so that he is bascily the only one to be able to stand for election at the club

    • @oslonorway547
      @oslonorway547 Рік тому +38

      @@CheGypter and the club is still doing great. Would rather be like Madrid, than what Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and other EPL have become over the years, changing owners who eventually drag them into debt and other crises. Meanwhile playing for Madrid has become the dream for future ballon d'or players and they are unveiling futuristic stadium and training facilities, even though Perez is making money from building them.

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Рік тому +14

      He's into "construction" aka organised crime

  • @rsen507
    @rsen507 Рік тому +1010

    Tebas himself is a big reason why the Spanish giants are still so strongly in favour of the Super League. His suddenly changing rules are hurting all the La Liga clubs financially. Here's a hilarious fact: In January f'ing BOURNEMOUTH was allowed to spend more money than the...here's the hilarious part... ENTIRETY OF LA LIGA. Football as a whole can't prosper like this.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Рік тому +204

      Not only that. Betis, Sevilla, Valencia are struggling to sign players or register them. LaLiga has highest number of cases of late registration, inflated Salary wage bill because of the laws in Spain.
      Tebas in October-November specifically changed laws to prevent Gavi's registration. He also did the same in around 2004 when Barcelona tried to promote Messi to the first team.
      Of all the clubs, he hates Barcelona and in an attempt to trouble them, he ultimately ruining the league.

    • @curtischarles5299
      @curtischarles5299 Рік тому +126

      Tebas is a fool. He is the reason for the decline in teams . His so called financial fairplay has crippled la liga teams and now weaken them. Sevilla had to sell their stars . A team who was just in the champions league is now in relegation zone .simply because the salary cap is to low and they cant keep their stars. It's the same for barcelona he wants us to sell our high earning players to stay with the salary cap. What is that doing for la liga teams? Making them sell their star players and cannot bring in any because they won't want to accept small salaries . So there is no balance. So now small epl teams will be able to give better salaries to these players .

    • @C2190
      @C2190 Рік тому +38

      sounds more like a laliga problem more than a bournemouth problem, The reason a team in the PL can do that is because money is distributed equaling down the PL teams unlike Laliga but if barca and real wanna be greedy so they can also take the consequences of that

    • @lembeed6155
      @lembeed6155 Рік тому +44

      @@C2190 equally?🤣🤣🤣🤣. you know nothing about football finances

    • @C2190
      @C2190 Рік тому +10

      @@lembeed6155 ah yes a brudda from the youtube comments knows more tho

  • @tonyx8862
    @tonyx8862 Рік тому +73

    The one thing madrid/Barcelona as well as their fans can agree is that they are the two biggest clubs in the world and should both be at the top of not only Spanish but world Futbol

  • @justadey_
    @justadey_ Рік тому +345

    It is called "Louis-Schmeling" paradox
    The general rule that monopoly is the "ideal market position of a firm" does not hold for professional sports
    "Sporting organizations need close competition if they are to be able to maximize their income. Sporting firms, require competitors to be successful: if Joe Louis had had no competitors, he would have had no one to fight and therefore no income"
    This is why Real Madrid needs a strong Barça and vice-versa.

    • @Someone25948
      @Someone25948 Рік тому +1

      Did you write this comment elsewhere as well or did you copy this?

    • @ian234234234
      @ian234234234 Рік тому +4

      strong competition = only 1 club lol la liga joke

    • @ahmedelakrab
      @ahmedelakrab Рік тому

      .

    • @justadey_
      @justadey_ Рік тому +3

      @@Someone25948 wiki has an abbreviated version.follow that

    • @Eoin1
      @Eoin1 Рік тому +5

      That's a very good point. Reminds me of Alex Ferguson always being in favour of the TV money being split evenly between all premier league teams compared to how it was done in Spain. He recognized the value of a competitive league.

  • @riddlerecsful
    @riddlerecsful Рік тому +102

    Joker to Batman " what ever would I do without you?"
    Every hero needs a villain

    • @santiagoch2451
      @santiagoch2451 Рік тому +3

      They are both villians in european football

    • @DBrealmadrid9606
      @DBrealmadrid9606 Рік тому +3

      @@santiagoch2451 Agreed. Shame on these elite clubs. Football will change forever

  • @mcgrudo
    @mcgrudo Рік тому +223

    Although it's a much lower level of football the same could be said about Celtic and Rangers. The passion behind El Clásico/Old Firm is ferocious. Catalan against Castilian, Gael against Briton. There are many more footballing rivalries but none stand out so viscerally tribal in nature. The spectacle is tense even for a neutral observer and yet, beyond money, neither could exist without the other.

    • @sergegaash
      @sergegaash Рік тому +14

      😂 man you trippin, i can tell you RM Barça rivalry is not like Celtic Rangers. Quite far from it.
      Most barça fans in Spain aren’t catalans.
      Real Madrid doesn’t represent Castilla, that only happens on some catalan’s eyes.
      This rivalry is quite new. Still in the 80s Real Madrid main rival was Atlético, not Barça.
      This isn’t something like the Old Firm. Lol

    • @foltgameeing
      @foltgameeing Рік тому +13

      @@sergegaash The Real-Barca rivalry is Francoist vs Revolutionaries. The independent-minded Catalans vs the Conservatives from Madrid. It's an age old rivalry with a lot of blood behind it. One could say it dates back to the Spanish Civil War itself with central authority challenging the right of minorities and at that time an actual armed conflict between not only the Falangists and Republicans but also the Catalan communists. The first thing Franco did was illegalize the Catalan language, illegalizing Catalan names and burning all their literature and even razing headstones of famous Catalan individuals. Franco was a cool guy.

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 Рік тому +2

      @@foltgameeing
      That's what Catalan independantists say today, sure Barcelona is a strong symbol of Catalan identity but it doesn't mean they were rivals with Real... Ath.Bilbao is also a strong symbol of Basque identity yet they don't have a rivalry with Real. The Barcelona/Real rivalry is something built by medias in the 1980/90s. The traditional rival of Real is Atletico Madrid, not Barcelona.

    • @mcgrudo
      @mcgrudo Рік тому +1

      @@sergegaash "man you trippin" No u 👺

    • @foltgameeing
      @foltgameeing Рік тому +1

      @@gontrandjojo9747 Are you Spanish by chance? Because this sounds like either an revisionist Spaniard or an ignorant foreigners answer. The word traditional in itself is relative but the way you use it is very broad or shall i say "relative". Very shortly or simply put, republicans all over Spain after the Civil War supported Barcelona. Opponents of said republicans, the conservatives and falangists etc. supported Real Madrid. It was a harmless way to rebel against supposed oppression. It wasn't so much the Catalans themselves but the non-conformists in the rest of Spain who created this rivalry. 2nd biggest city of Spain, in a traditionally hostile to the government region in an apparently dictatorial country. It was by all means a natural development, but a very real one. Denying it is not only folly, but idiocy. And Basques weren't even remotely as opposed to Franco as Catalans either were or was portrayed as by the republican/communist remnants.

  • @thechriscrowing
    @thechriscrowing Рік тому +73

    It's the same in Scotland. The Old Firm have this visceral rivalry between the fans, but behind the scenes, they're both committed to making sure the rest of Scottish football never has a chance to become competitive.

    • @user-wl1uz5sb9f
      @user-wl1uz5sb9f Рік тому

      xDDDDDDDD and so good at it

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Рік тому +1

      It's even worse in Scotland. Celtic and Rangers have won every Premiership title since the 1985/86 season. But in LaLiga Barca and Real have not won every league title between them for that same period. Althletico Madrid (3), Valencia (2) and Deportivo La Caruna (1) have won the league.
      *Note arbitray year selected to start from, as in the early 80s Scotland had Dundee United and Aberdeen win league titles and Spain had Althletico Bilbao win league titles.
      But I think that 37 consecutive seasons is a long time to dominate a competition between two clubs and it will be 38 this season as Celtic and Rangers are comfortably ahead of the next place team.

    • @michaelreddington658
      @michaelreddington658 Рік тому +1

      An absolutely insane comment at the end there…’Both committed to making sure the rest of Scottish Football never has a chance to become competitive?’ Celtic and Rangers have been the dominant clubs in Scotland for years primarily down to one major reason, size of fanbases. There are some great clubs with brilliant history in Scotland but they’ve never been able to capitalise on the success they’ve had down the years primarily because they don’t have the size of fanbases Celtic and Rangers do. You’re also dreaming if you think Douglas Park & Dermot Desmond are sitting around with a dram plotting the down fall of the other clubs 😂

  • @MrMoeGaming
    @MrMoeGaming Рік тому +126

    I, as a Culer, rather see a strong RM team to make El Classicos interesting and intense rather than a shabby side. And the league needs it too.

    • @MrMoeGaming
      @MrMoeGaming Рік тому +11

      @Madrid Studio For real. I want to see Valencia back to its former glory too. It'd benefit the league immensly.

    • @TheSpartanS196
      @TheSpartanS196 Рік тому +2

      If it was just sport, I'd agree. Sadly the history of RM and FCB is intertwined in politics, with FCB being an icon of Catalonian republicanism vs the spanish conservatism (Franchism first, monarchism then) embodied by Real Madrid, which is everything I could possibly loathe. If I could snap my fingers and make RM disappear, I would. I'd rather have an healthy, sports-only rivalry with Atletico. RM is just pure, deep hatred to me

    • @pozsoz
      @pozsoz Рік тому

      yea La Liga needs it because it's quite a boring league to watch, other than those 2 clásicos a year (sometimes).

    • @oslonorway547
      @oslonorway547 Рік тому

      @@TheSpartanS196 Catalonia Republicanism? That doesn't exist, unless you mean Catalonian nationalism which is another word for socialism. The Catalans have always been left leaning, even outright communists. The only party there with Republic in its name is even called _Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya_ meaning leftist Republicans. .... Lots of emotional arguments in your comment though. But of course, that's understandable given the political stance.

    • @OnlyTheJugg
      @OnlyTheJugg Рік тому +2

      @@oslonorway547 i think he just means republicanism in the sense of catalonia being a republic (which it is)

  • @osemoboraruya6898
    @osemoboraruya6898 Рік тому +43

    Even the clásico might ironically be another form of alliance from the teams. They present to be fierce enemies by the media, this attracts more views for the game and they make more money together from advertisers and fans.

  • @rishabhpandey6631
    @rishabhpandey6631 Рік тому +48

    The day Manchester City got more revenue than Madrid and Barcelona then you must know something is wrong

    • @ha6892
      @ha6892 Рік тому

      Fake income from city the owners creating there own businesses as a front

  • @CristianmirabalWuno
    @CristianmirabalWuno Рік тому +66

    You could've explained what is the CVC. And why that's the reason these clubs think they can make that much revenue in 4 seasons rather than selling their souls for 40...

    • @dh-st5sz
      @dh-st5sz Рік тому +1

      exactly, this way it makes it seem like the CVC is an good deal actually

    • @jackfrost7943
      @jackfrost7943 Рік тому +25

      @@dh-st5sz The CVC is a very bad deal.
      It hasn't brought any improvement.

    • @dh-st5sz
      @dh-st5sz Рік тому +6

      @@jackfrost7943 Exactly. I was saying that the video makes it look like the CVC deal is good when it's not, and its completely reasonable that real and barca are against it

    • @morlath4767
      @morlath4767 Рік тому +1

      I'd say the reason they didn't is because Tifo seems to be obsessed with keeping the length of their videos down. At least these ones. They seem to be wanting to move more fully into the Tifo IRL style and leave this channel/method of videos behind.

  • @richardalex4516
    @richardalex4516 Рік тому +13

    If either one collapses, you will see a one team league like Bundesliga. I like the German league but there is little chance of pushing aside Bayern towards the end of the season.
    The Classic must remain heated and competitive

  • @zardsire2012
    @zardsire2012 Рік тому +291

    I have always thought that the idea of a Super League is less black and white than the English media make it out to be. On the one hand it supports the wealthy clubs that dominate the game, but it also makes the top flight scene of clubs less Premier League focused, as those are the teams people invest in due to the marketability. I am still anti-super League but I get Barça and Madrid’s perspectives.

    • @vzero8612
      @vzero8612 Рік тому

      English media is JEALOUS of losing the spotlight.

    • @CristianmirabalWuno
      @CristianmirabalWuno Рік тому +58

      Funny how English fans went from football for the fans and 50+1 system to football for the sheiks and fallacies like validating 1B in revenues just because of TV rights despite of not even winning the audi cup in less than 8 months😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @navis462
      @navis462 Рік тому +11

      So even after having said something reasonable, by having used logic, you are still opposed to it? 😂 You said it yourself, all top teams would have more revenue not just the English league. So unless you are just pro premiere league then here’s an example of a 🐑. The new plan that was imposed also makes it an open tournament with funds being distributed down to grass roots team.

    • @vzero8612
      @vzero8612 Рік тому

      @@CristianmirabalWuno they talk about morals all day meanwhile twerking fro Yanks and Habib's lmao. English broke people are desperate for sugar daddies lmao.

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 Рік тому +32

      The prem is a super league. It would be foolish for them to support a threat to their edge. Madrid and Barca didn't mind using their money to dominate their own leagues for so long, they shouldn't be complaining now

  • @wei.2241
    @wei.2241 Рік тому +10

    As a Madrid fan I find it quite funny that in Perez's attempt to keep all the power and riches to Madrid and Barcelona he's hurt La Liga and this Madrid in the crossfire, the league had a golden opportunity to capitalise and become a massive global brand like the premier league when Messi and Ronaldo were both playing for Madrid and Barcelona and was most likely the most "famous" time in la liga's recent history but instead of distributing wealth and strengthening the overall league making a more competitive environment like the PL he tried to hold onto it all himself which as we now see resulted in La Liga's dry period with majority of the worlds attention turning to the English league which in itself IS is a super league.
    Pere'z attempts to create a super league to generate more money could have been succeeded "although most likely with not as much as an actual super league would generate" if he just allowed the league and competition to grow but instead he forcefully held it back and thus Madrid along with it.

    • @TD_pb
      @TD_pb Рік тому

      I agree with you. Ferguson at United was famous for ensuring money made in the premier league during his title winning years was shared equally. Now, that affected United's chances of defeating the Glazers takeover battle as the club didn't have the cash to fight them, but it benefitted the whole league, even the lower leagues.

    • @Fakeprophets
      @Fakeprophets Рік тому

      They are doing this to force la liga and UCL to make game plan easier

  • @RoodBull_SAMA
    @RoodBull_SAMA Рік тому +10

    My heart is with Barça and i wouldn't want a rival other than Real Madrid.

  • @Viewer41
    @Viewer41 Рік тому +78

    I thought it was obvious?🤷‍♂️
    They need the competition.
    Celtic suffered without Rangers. 🥱
    Bayern suffer with no competition.🥱
    PSG suffer with no competition. 🥱
    Juventus suffered for like 10 years when they won it every year 🥱
    The main reason the Premier League is the best in the world is because you have multiple strong teams, not just 1 or 2.

    • @sugarkookiewithsometae4245
      @sugarkookiewithsometae4245 Рік тому +60

      Yeah, Man City and one other. There hasnt been a 3 horse race in the Prem in over a decade.

    • @gyorkshire257
      @gyorkshire257 Рік тому +2

      @@sugarkookiewithsometae4245 Yeah, but it's not always been the same two teams. That's why Spanish and Scottish football are so unattractive to viewers.

    • @ken81616
      @ken81616 Рік тому +34

      No, the main reason premier league is the best league for now is because every team in there can spend 100 millions in one transfer window.

    • @vishnu_kr_madappally
      @vishnu_kr_madappally Рік тому +26

      In the last 5 years, there are 3 different champions in la liga, where as premiere league is won 4 times by city itself! You talk about the BEST LEAGUE ! 🤣

    • @jimabrahamguillaume3301
      @jimabrahamguillaume3301 Рік тому +14

      @@vishnu_kr_madappally 2 of the CL winners from the last 4 years are from prem, 2 of whom didn't even win the league. That tells something.

  • @alecselcroco
    @alecselcroco Рік тому +83

    Quite ironic how the english are against the super league while their own league is becoming the real superleague. Just compare the money spent in trasnfers in the premier with the other european leagues over the last years and you'll see the difference. A single player that plays well for his team outside england it's instantly bought by a low-mid-table PL team.

    • @wackiechan300
      @wackiechan300 Рік тому +24

      It's not ironic, it's completely in their interest. They know they already are a super league and won't switch unless barca/madrid attract enough historic clubs to their league to pull eyes away from the PL.

    • @divanshu5039
      @divanshu5039 Рік тому +5

      yep totally agree with you. It's the main reason of Premiere League success.

    • @rudymurillo9334
      @rudymurillo9334 Рік тому +28

      The only reason the PL is considered a super league is because they’re actually a profitable business model. Real and Barcelona have been sinking La Liga for a long time. Meanwhile PL clubs are willing to share TV revenue so everyone profits and everyone has a chance to build a title winning team.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Рік тому +1

      Well why would they be. They love being in centre of attention. They love using the phrase "best league itw". Ofc they won't recognise that.

    • @alecselcroco
      @alecselcroco Рік тому +10

      @@rudymurillo9334 Please elaborate on how Barcelona and Real Madrid are sinking la Liga while being the two most important teams that apport the most revenue to the league with their TV rights. Moreover, it is obvious that the prem gains more revenue with their TV rights because more people watch the PL due to it's major intensity and game dynamics in contrast to the tactical, well defended and slower games of La Liga which may be more unappealing to the regular sports fan, thus not attracting as much viewers which results in less money from TV rights. With this argument you could then argue that it is fair for the prem to have this much money in comparison to the spanish league, but the spanish league has a much bigger problem with its President who doesn't know how to handle the league he presides.

  • @simokojamesphiri7924
    @simokojamesphiri7924 Рік тому +15

    Florentino Perez will always do what's best for business and right now El Clasicos that boast the games best stars is what is clearly best for business.
    On a separate super league note, I feel that as long as the premier league continues to exist in it's current state i.e with clubs self regulating, then the idea of a Super League will never go away, especially when UEFA is itself a very shady organization.

  • @lukaskirchner9565
    @lukaskirchner9565 Рік тому +10

    They also need each other for el clasico, success and appreciation in common. If one of the clubs would not be in la liga, the league would not be competitive anymore. No matter what the other club would win nationally and internationally.
    Look at bayern, they are the second most sucessfull club on this planet but they dont get and never got the appreciation for their success. Just because bundesliga isnt that competitive.

  • @jarveyjaguar4395
    @jarveyjaguar4395 Рік тому +3

    Competition between clubs is like competition between players, each players is forced to bring his best on the pitch and if he fails to do so the other player might surpass him and take his position on the field and he will find himself on the bench or sold.

  • @cheangizzz
    @cheangizzz Рік тому +7

    Joker saying "We need each other!" to Batman

  • @hraballah6053
    @hraballah6053 Рік тому +15

    This is quite informative and needs wider insight on the ongoings behind the two clubs

  • @kroosbah3812
    @kroosbah3812 Рік тому +6

    Rivals not enemies 💯🤝

  • @DabDabGoose
    @DabDabGoose Рік тому +13

    it's True La Liga is like if in Bundesliga, Bayern had an equal rival that alone would make a big difference in that league.

    • @masecaccm8372
      @masecaccm8372 Рік тому +4

      they did the opposite by snatching Dortmund's best players to get stronger, although they did save them when they were broke

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 Рік тому

      @@masecaccm8372
      They saved their acamedy, not their "rival" XD. Just like a farmer calls the vet for his cow so he can continue to milk it.

  • @CharleyOlivesss
    @CharleyOlivesss Рік тому +7

    Tebas is the worst he has been so bad for Spain the rule changes has really ruined both teams to actually compete with the Premier League I get why they want the Super League, I think both clubs breaking away from La Liga & possibly heading to let's say Ligue 1 would be wonders for France but it's just a crazy thought

  • @Evemeister12
    @Evemeister12 Рік тому +3

    Much the same with Celtic and Rangers in Scotland. They're called the old firm for a good reason.

  • @MrFrunk1
    @MrFrunk1 Рік тому +9

    "Every hero needs a villain".
    Also... We good with just The Bundesliga.

  • @PitchforkStudios
    @PitchforkStudios Рік тому +5

    Rivals not enemies

  • @teejay9881
    @teejay9881 Рік тому +2

    These animations are brilliant

  • @yasht7387
    @yasht7387 Рік тому +3

    They’ve also allied each other and dominated the European competition for nearly two decades

  • @swarajtiwari789
    @swarajtiwari789 Рік тому +6

    that was probably the best video you guys have ever produced, or maybe i am just high, but no really, i was v good

  • @bukhosim2829
    @bukhosim2829 Рік тому +2

    Funny how both players in the thumbnail are former Bayern players.

    • @JB-kd9wg
      @JB-kd9wg Рік тому +1

      That was the intention Bukho

    • @bukhosim2829
      @bukhosim2829 Рік тому

      @@JB-kd9wg To what end?

  • @farhanrahman27
    @farhanrahman27 Рік тому +4

    They are basically The Batman and Joker of football.

  • @jonathanprime1507
    @jonathanprime1507 Рік тому +3

    Tebas is destroying La Liga

  • @your_virtuoso
    @your_virtuoso Рік тому

    very interesting
    one of your best videos

  • @andrewnotgonnatellya7019
    @andrewnotgonnatellya7019 Рік тому +3

    A rivalry needs two

  • @R4X90
    @R4X90 Рік тому +3

    Tebas is the premier league’s cia

  • @kevinfofana6565
    @kevinfofana6565 Рік тому +10

    The magic of the premier league is fair share of revenues among the participants, other leagues don’t bother with that and thus reduce the competition. How can one team win the league 10 consecutive times 🤦🏿‍♂️ and you expect to attract more fans to partake in that

  • @adhnaanahmed5029
    @adhnaanahmed5029 Рік тому +5

    As a madrid fan,competition is only thing which has driven real madrid and barca to top level football in this planet.
    Real and barca >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other so called best clubs in pl and other leagues

  • @Izombiestunz
    @Izombiestunz Рік тому +2

    I want this guy to read me bedtime stories

  • @iceman4660
    @iceman4660 Рік тому +43

    The Super League is already here. It's called the EPL

    • @DopeBoyFaze
      @DopeBoyFaze Рік тому +9

      Yes in the bank not on the pitch

    • @iceman4660
      @iceman4660 Рік тому

      @@DopeBoyFaze it is also on the pitch. Compared to all the other leagues it is more competitive and has more upsets. In addition the grounds are always full which makes for a better viewing spectacle.
      I agree that EPL may be lacking on the technical front but most fans are not bothered by that.

    • @DopeBoyFaze
      @DopeBoyFaze Рік тому

      @@iceman4660 okayy serie a is more competitive as there are literally have 7 title contenders(the fact that napoli is so clear is proof) bundesliga and aserie a have way better atmospheres and more passionate fans and are you even a football fan if technical quality isnt a priority epl is a gimmick so like arcade football everything fast everything money transfer periods are a whole spectacle splashing money running fast no wonder the league is dominated by a team that plays like a la liga team(man city)...even arsenal plays like a la liga team. all you need to do to win in epl is play like a la liga team only problem is yould have to sell most english players to do that and homeggrown quotas wont allow that

  • @sushantbhandari7948
    @sushantbhandari7948 Рік тому +23

    We all know about Manchester City's revenue. 😆😆

    • @42void42
      @42void42 Рік тому +1

      Ajax, Dortmund, Benfica, Napoli etc Clubs are getting robbed every transfer window by doping clubs like Man City and PSG who sold their souls to billionaire, and PL dominated by German, Spainish, Italian, French, Portuguese, Dutch managers and players

  • @zxcxzxc
    @zxcxzxc Рік тому +2

    It's already a two team league, one without another would make it incredibly dull

  • @PythagorasinBoots
    @PythagorasinBoots Рік тому

    Coruscating splendiferousness

  • @aqeel-3771
    @aqeel-3771 Рік тому

    i want a. bilbao and real sociedad to carry on making good impact in the league and good a . madrid are doing well and hopefully finish runners up this season.

  • @ThePerks2010
    @ThePerks2010 Рік тому +9

    "we've run these clubs into the ground thru our ineptitude and now we're going to spoil it for everyone"

    • @SG-ku6kw
      @SG-ku6kw Рік тому

      Yes, their ineptitude is why Barcelona and Real Madrid have dominated Europe for the last 15 years

    • @Kushagra.j
      @Kushagra.j Рік тому

      Another complete foolish moron who's fallen for English propoganda

  • @kidpagronprimsank05
    @kidpagronprimsank05 Рік тому +2

    Same can be said to Celtic and Rangers

  • @sambeg2
    @sambeg2 Рік тому +2

    No rivalry bigger than these two.

    • @Haggis_67
      @Haggis_67 Рік тому

      Celtic / Rangers is bigger

    • @eL-RaL
      @eL-RaL Рік тому

      @@Haggis_67 how?

    • @podjun80
      @podjun80 Рік тому

      ​@Thomas Lamb nobody outside Scotland cares though..

  • @diego_r585
    @diego_r585 Рік тому +1

    SUPER LEAGUE MUST HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!

  • @fhdz5488
    @fhdz5488 Рік тому +1

    Barcelona have less than half of the CL trophies Real Madrid have. They’re not competition in that tournament

  • @ismaelbandekhodaeidiaz3407
    @ismaelbandekhodaeidiaz3407 Рік тому +55

    I became a Barca supporter in the late 90s early 2000s because of the club's values. Back then, we stood for solidarity, equality, democracy and freedom of expression. We were even the last major club in Europe to have a commercial shirt sponsor. We were everything that Madrid wasn't and that's what made us proud to support this club regardless of whether we won or lost. But these past few years we've lost our soul. It alway was a business but now it seems like it's just that a nothing more. This hurts a lot. I want my old club back.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Рік тому +36

      It was all good back then. But now the club can't survive and more importantly, compete with Financial backing of State owned clubs. It is necessary to adapt to remain relevant.

    • @NineTMinutes
      @NineTMinutes Рік тому +26

      i think you didnt grow up along with time then. if your old barca is to be bought back like u said without sponsors and demanding equality . it won't even take more than two years for the club to be on ossasuna level. Both on and off the pitch. Thats the reality.

    • @Johan-bm8ym
      @Johan-bm8ym Рік тому +3

      Then how would you compete with the clubs which are backed by rich club owners and oil money?

    • @daniaaal
      @daniaaal Рік тому +10

      The old Barca wouldnt be able to survive in an environment full of American-billionare/Arab state-backed clubs of today

    • @Kushagra.j
      @Kushagra.j Рік тому +3

      Pls stop watching football then

  • @JustinSpakable
    @JustinSpakable Рік тому

    That was insane. Very informative. Thank you!

  • @kurniaarafah9373
    @kurniaarafah9373 Рік тому +1

    i honestly thought this video will talking about both club rivalries make them stronger or something .......

  • @Delboy0
    @Delboy0 Рік тому +12

    The truth Real and Barca are desperate for a Super League to save them financially because they are worried the Premier League will become the NBA of football and La Liga TV money is shrinking due to lack of interest in it. Super league by the way only had value when the English teams were involved because they drive global interest and TV contracts.

    • @DopeBoyFaze
      @DopeBoyFaze Рік тому +4

      England is out of the EU if they make a super league you will not get new European talents they will make sure of that with restrictive legislation and insanely high prices

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Рік тому +11

      Of please don't make us laugh, before European cup/CL was even founded which btw was founded by Real Madrid s president Santiago Bernabeu which at that time English clubs where reluctant to join. All other leagues, except English founded the Latin cup. They don't need the English teams sparky. Both Madrid and Barca already has the largest fanbase in the world, been the most successful for decades and had the most Balon D Or winners. To claim that English teams brings more value is laughable. Before the lucrative Sky - EPL deal and billionaires coming in, literally no one except Brtiz and Scandinavians where watching EPL.

  • @davidokwara1894
    @davidokwara1894 Рік тому +1

    It is the nonsense alliance of convenience that has landed them in this financial mess. While big clubs elsewhere don't mind funding smaller clubs with more equitable revenue share, they carry a sense of entitlement that has hurt La Liga so bad. It is embarassing.

  • @abstraqtphilosophy7357
    @abstraqtphilosophy7357 Рік тому +1

    No wonder the el classico is a shadow of its former self in terms of viewership. I won't be surprised if a 12:30pm kickoff game between Newcastle vs Arsenal has more viewership than a 9pm el Classico game

  • @MB-xq9hu
    @MB-xq9hu 7 днів тому

    Their greatness collectively would make them attractive to us in the US, and to others outside of Spain, that's why of course they need the other to be great, just not as great both clubs would say 😅

  • @animeshpati5525
    @animeshpati5525 Рік тому +19

    Imagine a Barca vs Madrid Clasico in ucl final

    • @mimikolomamu
      @mimikolomamu Рік тому +3

      You can imagine alone

    • @kabelobrian4540
      @kabelobrian4540 Рік тому +5

      Barca needs to qualify for the ucl first bruv🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Sasquatch10
      @Sasquatch10 Рік тому +15

      It almost happened in 2013 but it turned out to Bayern vs Dortmund, who beat Barca & Madrid in the semi's, respectively.

    • @vishavjitsinghh
      @vishavjitsinghh Рік тому +15

      @@Sasquatch10 also could've happened in 2015 but juve defeated madrid in the semis

    • @tanmaypandey7475
      @tanmaypandey7475 Рік тому +3

      @@kabelobrian4540 when was the last time we didn't?

  • @robbieray9164
    @robbieray9164 Рік тому

    They are our nemesis not our rivals

  • @CamilaCastilhosM
    @CamilaCastilhosM Рік тому +3

    Literally the only difference from England is that it's 2 clubs doing this instead of 6.

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 Рік тому +4

      2 clubs doing it instead of 6? Which club do you include in the 6? Spurs that didn't win a league title (or a title at all) for decades while Atletico (which is not one of these "2 clubs") won La Liga twice last decade?

    • @CamilaCastilhosM
      @CamilaCastilhosM Рік тому +1

      @@gontrandjojo9747 yes. Because this is about business not sporting success.

  • @bez1196
    @bez1196 Рік тому +1

    People complaining about TV revenue are missing an important point: TV revenue is one thing, oligarchs and Petro dollars are another. No amount of redistribution of tv revenue can make up for that. Also, LA Liga (the organization) has done a terrible job promoting the brand to the rest of the world. They had Messi and Ronaldo in their prime and still couldn't promote the product effectively. PL is light years ahead of La Liga as a brand. Real and Barca have valid reasons to not trust La Liga. They are the ones who promote their own brands while La Liga does nothing so as a result, Ppl tune in to watch Real and Barca not any other team thanks to poor promotion by La Liga.

  • @thestrika
    @thestrika Рік тому +1

    Everything was fine when they were on top but now they're not its a problem

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 Рік тому +2

    If City gets hit with penalties for their recent financial controversies, then fair play to the Super League for allowing a League Two size to compete with the proper big boys of Europe. That being said, in all seriousness, screw the Super League.

  • @ander4163
    @ander4163 Рік тому

    Ego and power,.all they want and have.

  • @darknebula455
    @darknebula455 Рік тому +2

    Tebas is forcing Superleague to happen. & Barca & Real has enmity in field but outside that overall both clubs have been friendly to each other. Sports cant sustain & grow with monopoly. You need exciting matches, rivals to make more money.
    Both barca & Madrid is trying to replace Tebas in upcoming Laliga election probably cuz Tebas is Putting sanctions on laliga teams every week ( specially barca).
    PL is certainty the biggest League in World but Mardrid & Barca is the top most elite clubs & biggest in World ( united if you count top 3) -. Don't argue stupidly here. Its according to Forbes.
    Outside UK everywhere you go, even go time China & Russia people will say Barcelona / Real Madrid?
    This also says that These two teams have also discriminated against other teams in laliga. As a result Its not competitive as PL.
    So obviously they need Superleague to compete & maintain growth.
    No one is villains here. UK people is protesting cuz they dont want to lose dominance. But everything changes. US is also.not going to be no.1 for long.
    & i think Super League is inevitable.
    The simple difference is that PL teams accept to be owned by Saudi / Qatari Owners & make millions, buy all players but Public clubs like Barca / Madrid need Superleague cuz they are not sold to Oil billionaires.

    • @Witty-Hydra
      @Witty-Hydra Рік тому

      First of all I agree with u almost in everything except when u said u epl is afraid to loose the dominance when they never dominated Europe. What they r afraid of is their competitive ability to come close to clubs like juve,napoli, Real Madrid, Barca,Ajax bc all they have now is the dominance of spending money.which by the way they don’t make. Am also glad that we will never sell our club for anything.

  • @showtimeblc
    @showtimeblc 2 дні тому

    Florentino is the godfather of football 😂
    Love you presi

  • @ronny3051
    @ronny3051 Рік тому

    Make a vdo on Union Berlin's Success

  • @notboutit888
    @notboutit888 Рік тому

    The difference between BARCELONA VS RM rival is that they have real beef that goes way back

  • @AutopilotAndChill
    @AutopilotAndChill Рік тому +2

    Because it would be more than a farmers league than it already is if there wasn’t a duopoly. Just look at France, Germany and Italy how traditionally only one team wins. Juventus won 9 years in a row, Bayern Munich 10 in a row and in France 8 of the last 10 years it was PSG. The quality of a league is in tight championship races as well as the points spread from top to bottom. Football needs a salary cap, like American sports.

  • @Muradwalis92
    @Muradwalis92 Рік тому

    Finally a video longer than 4 minutes

    • @eL-RaL
      @eL-RaL Рік тому

      Why are his videos always short

    • @Muradwalis92
      @Muradwalis92 Рік тому

      @@eL-RaL it’s like by time I’m getting into them they finish

  • @zulfika_
    @zulfika_ Рік тому

    is super league system is the same as euroleague?

  • @musguera
    @musguera Рік тому

    More strong clubs in a league make for a overall better league, which brings more attention to it. And RM and Barcelona staying top clubs, it is their interest. Look at PSG, 1 strong club in a league no one cares about, that has finantial impact.

  • @Mikel57129
    @Mikel57129 Рік тому +11

    La Liga will always struggle if they let barca and real get most of the money. Weak competition leads to worse product and less interest from the public. They dug their own graves and need to acknowledge their actions before the dirt surrounds their coffin

    • @1607Adi_Manz
      @1607Adi_Manz Рік тому +13

      la liga always have better technical playstyle than epl

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment Рік тому +1

      @@1607Adi_Manz hard work beat talent if talent don' t work hard. That' s how relegation contenders Everton beat league leader Arsenal last week. That' s why the EPL is more unpredictable.

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Рік тому +6

      @@Account.for.Comment Still La liga destroys the EPL in every single European/international competition, never mind having the best players around with most Balon D Or winners and contenders. EPL is a joke, nothing more than a overhyped league and teams. Sky with their lucrative EPL deal is the only thing keeping it afloat. But spending the most money doesn't translate to success or quality. It's like claiming a typical Marvel movie is better than the Godather because it generate more money? The logic of EPL fans

    • @Mikel57129
      @Mikel57129 Рік тому

      @@outlawfly664 that's only because wealth is concentrated with basically two teams in la Liga. I'm not saying real and barca are bad teams, I'm saying they are hurting their own league. Bayern does well in the champions league too but at the expense of their league rivals losing coaches and players to them. La Liga style is subjective so it's weird to try and bring that up. Teams like Brighton and Brentford are more interesting to watch than most la Liga teams

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Рік тому +2

      @@Mikel57129 What you don't understand like most EPL fans is very fact that wealth is concentrated to Madrid and Barca because La liga leadership does a very poor job in promoting their league. They don't have the same leverage as EPL with lucrative TV deals extending over 10 billion with Sky which even is an English media outlet or any middlemen for that matter given the fact that EPL is already it's own super league, never mid the fact that major clubs in Spain are members owned which doesn't attract corrupt billionaires. If that was the case, both Madrid and Barca wouldn't have a hard time to distribute their wealth equally, but at this point it's relatively unfair to both of these clubs given the fact that they are the clubs who overwhelmingly brings the most audiences to the table, in fact both Real Madrid and Barca has the largest fanbase in the world, go figure.

  • @crobisbobis
    @crobisbobis 11 місяців тому +1

    If 1 team wins every game no one watches the sport. When something is garneted there is no point to watch, that's why the ,,Super League,, is actually a terrible idea.

  • @evolutionzero1705
    @evolutionzero1705 Рік тому

    Now do Bayern and psg please

  • @tosinfodeke5294
    @tosinfodeke5294 Рік тому +1

    I don't understand ‘WHY’ are so many high profile players are refusing big opportunities to play in the prestigious Premier League and joining a Barça team who went trophyless last season and are going through some massive financial troubles.

    • @jordansamra9652
      @jordansamra9652 Рік тому +3

      That is because
      1. History since 2003, young or at least soccer players under 30 years old had been growing with Barcelona and Real Madrid as the World's best soccer team with stars almost from every nation. Therefore their dream is to be part of them even if they are not currently the best
      2. For that reason currently at countries from Latam or most of europe is more famous Barcelona and Real Madrid than every premier league team

  • @Balltalk189
    @Balltalk189 Рік тому

    Good morning JJ Bull

  • @batman-qw1gf
    @batman-qw1gf Рік тому

    it will always be like this, for a couple of year barcelona will do better than real madrid 2008-2015, and then real madrid will do better than barcelona 2016-2023 its this cat and mouse game that will just make each team push eachother, Its a reason spain is a powerhouse of European football all bc of 2 teams.

  • @00dude3
    @00dude3 Рік тому +4

    Barca and Real gobble up most of the la liga tv revenue while the PL is more equally shared. This results in massive growth for the PL while la liga stagnants. And now Real/Barca complain about the PLs money

    • @bez1196
      @bez1196 Рік тому +7

      TV revenue is one thing, oligarchs and Petro dollars are another. No amount of redistribution of tv revenue can make up for that. Also, LA Liga (the organization) has done a terrible job promoting the brand to the rest of the world. They had Messi and Ronaldo in their prime and still couldn't promote the product effectively. PL is light years ahead of La Liga as a brand. Real and Barca have valid reasons to not trust La Liga. They are the ones who promote their own brands while La Liga does nothing so as a result, Ppl tune in to watch Real and Barca not any other team thanks to poor promotion by La Liga.

  • @anonymous_1850
    @anonymous_1850 Рік тому

    Lewandowski and Benzema just left the chat(for some reason)

  • @thomasweini9960
    @thomasweini9960 Рік тому +2

    Ofc they are important for each other otherwise madrid would be like bayern and winning all the ucls

  • @shafinsadman3731
    @shafinsadman3731 Рік тому

    tebas is a real madrid fan...and tebas is getting fu**ed up by perez...really perez is something else man...real madrid is lucky to have a president of his quality....always put the club over any player/manager/league-president...

  • @outlawfly664
    @outlawfly664 Рік тому +1

    Well duh. For the same reason Arnold Schwarzenegger needed Sylvester Stallone in their heydays

  • @segundolizardo6667
    @segundolizardo6667 Рік тому

    Without Real Madrid and Barcelona la liga would be as know as the Scottish league , they provide 50 % of la liga revenue and probably more than 95 % of the interest outside Spain , it’s amazing that they are the reason why la liga clubs have any money form TV , no one in USA is wating to watch Elche vs Sevilla for example and they have to be fighting with Tebas for their rights ?

  • @lenin17301560
    @lenin17301560 Рік тому +1

    The Premier League has them going crazy 🤣

  • @Aaryan1017
    @Aaryan1017 Рік тому

    Barca Madrid and Athletic Bilbao didn't sign the CVC deal
    The Spanish Court said a few weeks back that This same deal is a disgrace, it said "You can't give 40 million and take away 10% TV rights for 40 years" this shows that Both Madrid and Barca are doing just the right thing to bring an end to this awful reign of Tebas

  • @davec3974
    @davec3974 Рік тому

    Given that English teams can't join a European Super League, what's the plan for non-English teams? Maybe turn all of their domestic leagues into a single league, then the top teams from that league and the Prem can compete in a modified version of the Champions League?

    • @masecaccm8372
      @masecaccm8372 Рік тому +3

      Laporta is hinting the superleague will merge with UEFA. This suggest that what they are doing is more like extortion to get UEFA to do serious reform with FFP and a fair share in revenue for clubs, because UEFA keeps a huge part of the pie. UEFA is already doing reforms, but probably making it worse

  • @yuhin4694
    @yuhin4694 Рік тому +1

    Barca can't cross the group stage in UCL and they want Super League 💀

  • @UitdenOosterhout
    @UitdenOosterhout Рік тому

    La Liga has also said that If the Catalunya ever gets its wish to be Independent from Spain their will be massive consequences to Catalunyan Clubs, and they get their wish to be removed from the League.

  • @fredkaboom
    @fredkaboom Рік тому

    Fix your pronunciation of Florentino Pérez. In Spanish, the accent over the letter means that syllable is emphasized. See also Álvaro Morata.

  • @derekmontalto5488
    @derekmontalto5488 Рік тому

    Given the recent revelations about city's finances I doubt those numbers are accurate.

  • @rsrocha1984
    @rsrocha1984 Рік тому

    Still no Pele

  • @dewunmikarunwi3297
    @dewunmikarunwi3297 Рік тому +1

    Football and politics, such an interesting mix🙂

  • @hmm7258
    @hmm7258 Рік тому +5

    Before the video: Because their rivalisation makes them so popular+ more money

  • @killercaos123
    @killercaos123 Рік тому

    I’m not shocked much at all

  • @hmm7258
    @hmm7258 Рік тому +12

    How does TIFO make so many videos ?!

  • @divanshu5039
    @divanshu5039 Рік тому +3

    I'm in favour of super league, and in some way UEFA is too. I mean look how they changed the rules of champions league for the upcoming season. That's a very drastic change. Pretty sure even they think something need to be changed and they might not agree with the changes super league present, but they do agree changes need to be made so they did their own version of it.

  • @aop330
    @aop330 Рік тому

    is Barca vs real really a derby any more? doesn't feel like it