Milling Wild Cherry, I Wasn't Expecting It To Do This!
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2020
- Milling a stressed out cherry log.
This log was grown on a slight hill. I did not expect to find tension in it. It will be difficult to get the boards to dry straight. Tension like this usually happens when trees grow on hills. Mill is a Wood Mizer LT15 GO. Tractor is a Kubota L4701 with a Construction Attachments root grapple on it.
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Reading through it now.... great story.
Let's say you a 10-12' Cherry tree, about x 13" and you got 8 boards from it... how much could that be sold for?
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Fall Line Ridge it certainly was not a waste of time you got beautiful boards from the log. I love the woodgrain . Thank for sharing God bless.
I can't stop watching and yet i don't know why. This looks like healthy and noble work.
Good stuff. I cut up a cheery tree in the spring that had fallen in the back yard last year. Now i have cherry wood for the smoker.
I also see you have new uses for the grapple😝. Greatest attachment ever
Outstanding book, very well written. Thanks for putting me onto this book. Thank your father-in -law for his service.
Much appreciated!
Beautiful grain even though a disappointing yield. You still have some nice boards. Good video.
you are one of the most honest people on u tube. thank you and keep making these good videos i've been watching for about a year
Love your projects and your adventures and what ever you can get in free cherry wood it’s a blessing and those boards look good to me and thanks again for sharing your videos and God Bless
Gorgeous logs. They may be excellent for building a nice piece of furniture!
Love watching you mill! It looks like it some gratifying work! So much so I just put my Order in for the wood Mizer lx 25! Thanks for the inspiration! GOD Bless you and your family from your neighbors in North Ga
Awesome! You'll have a blast!
Love working with cherry. Did a mantle over the fireplace. Beautiful color.
On the side your scrap makes excellent BBQ smoke wood. I've used wild cherry before and it makes tasty BBQ.
I have used it to smoke turkey and pork shoulders. I use both the wood and the sawdust.
Me also, today I am smoking catfish.
I have a 55 gallon drum with a sealable lid and a 4” chimney, load it with chunks, throw it on a campfire and turn the chunks into lump charcoal. It’s really amazing and good excuse to drink beer by a fire all night.
That's a nice setup.
I'm sitting here imagining the smell of cherry on a campfire. I had some apple branches one time, made me crave some apple pie when I burned them.
Wes, thanks for the tip on your father in law’s book!
He was a good soldier and sounds like a fine man, you are lucky to have him as your father in law.
I enjoyed the book and appreciate his service during the service of all who served in Vietnam.
I managed to avoid Vietnam by serving in the Army Reserve for 6 years.
Thank you. Very much appreciate it.
Not sure how I ended up here but enjoyed your video. We have lots of cherry here on my property in PA.
The largest I have cut and had milled was 38 inches across the stump end. It is beautiful lumber,and use it for furniture building for my home. Thanks for the content.
I love seeing the grain that is awesome to work with for projects!!
I love working with cherry, looks awesome as well.
Wow you sure do go for the best shots with your cameras! Good job. And such a young guy who appreciates the beauty of wood. It usually take almost a lifetime to do such. Keep the vids coming!
While I was watching thought of your little one and you could make him a sand box but use saw dust, then you can replenish really easy and it cleaner than sand. Most definitely a nice tree!
Good morning from Yukon. I really enjoy your video’s. So relaxing. You’ll be able to use the good pieces to make something out of the scraps, maybe a birdhouse. Have a great weekend. Keep up the great work. God bless you and your family.
Everyone makes mistakes, learning to correct or hide your mistakes is what makes you a great craftsman. This can apply to most any craft
Learning to minimize your mistakes is key.
Interesting video. Something I’ve never seen before. Next time I buy wood for a project I’ll know how it got there. Thanks for posting this.
those boards would make a pretty table top. great video.
I know your father is very proud of you i can't wait to read his book. Catching up on videos getting kinda old. I.try to watch all of them i always wanted to saw mill or cut lumber cant now doing the next best thing watchig the next best thing. Thanks for bringing me along.
Thanks!
The tension you have here is called Timber Bound. I see this in Hickory more than any other any other species. Keep up the good work !!
Either side of that heart there appears to be some quality rail and style material. I would love to make a Cherry cabinet. No Cherry Wood up here in the Pines.
Just Grabbed your PopInLaw's book on Kindle. Looking forward to reading it. Thanks for the recommendation 😀
Thanks for the videos. I am waiting for my mill to arrive and I'll get started...EB
Beautiful boards!
One of my favorite woods to work with. Thanks.
well done mate! thank you for sharing!
Love your shot-set up from the forest!
Thanks. Always enjoy and learn a lot each time. You make a good presentation and don't attempt to tell us things you don't know. That's very commendable of any man in the public view.
Thanks!
Yep,wild cherry is pretty stuff. Cut that rot out and use the good part for trim. I have a wild cherry on my trailer waiting to cut. Cut one couple of years ago..ready to work up. Can hardly wait to get on both projects. Good stuff again...keep it up!
Thanks!
Lovely wood cherry, I have a couple of pieces of furniture that's made of cherry wood. Lovely colour.
That thing cuts amazingly fast!
Another good upload thank Wes! Some nice looking Cherry there even though some of it had some rot. Once those boards have dried (hopefully straight) they would make some fine furniture! A friend here in the UK had a 26" diameter cherry tree that was dangerously close to his new house so it had to come down. He slabbed quite a lot of it up with a chainsaw mill, and despite careful stacking & storage, it warped & cracked in all directions.
I was surprised when you hooked up the trunk in the woods that you didn't put the chain over the top of the scraper crossbar - it would have lifted the end out of the dirt. I'm sure you had a reason for it! Stay safe & well. 👍👍
No good reason, just inexperience. It was really the wrong tool for the job.
You know, I have some very pretty boards of different species, but they are crooked, cupped and twisted. With that, I usually save them for smaller projects and just cut out the best sections. After cross cutting and milling to nominal dimension, I still let them acclimate to my shop before investing them into a project.
In particular, I purchased a nice load of poplar from a mill at a very good price that was custom cut for a client that didn't need it all. It's been drying for some time under a shed at the mill. When I ran the first piece through my planer, I was shocked just how beautiful the poplar was! I was used to a greenish tint to every poplar variation in color I had seen. This purchase had black, pink, the typical green and even streaks of light red. Several boards looked just like walnut when "dark walnut" Danish Oil was applied . So you never know.....
Pure poplar sapwood (white) was used as flooring for years. Try cherry stain, it already has grain similar to the ripples of cherry.
Still watching your videos. Love them. I too might be moving from my 3000 to a Kubota. Just not yet sure which model yet. By the way it looks like you have a low hanging hydraulic hose from your grapple. You might want to hang it up before you hook it on something in the woods and loose your fluids. You might find yourself backing home dragging your bucket.
Yes, I noticed that...I'll try to fix that problem soon. I love my 3000, I used it some today, but the Kubota is a major upgrade in many ways. I do think the 3000 is a bit more versatile with implements however.
Regarding your father in law's time serving in Vietnam, first of all THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SIR, but second, as far back as I remember, I ALWAYS thought it was right to treat the soldiers WELL regardless of what I thought of the war itself. They're either drafted or thought they were doing their best. And that's good enough for me. In recent years I've gotten several to bring out their scrapbook and spend hours talking with me about it when even their wives had never heard this story (by their own admission). I know these soldiers know of my love and respect for them no matter what, so I'm pretty sure this was cathartic to tell a civvie this story when they KNEW they were just gonna get acceptance from me. Ain't nothin' special about it. It's just what I would always do.
The warping slabwood was probably *mostly* due to it drying on the outside more than the inside. If the tree was leaning when growing, that will cause it to have a bit of inner stresses.
Weld a couple of grab hooks on top of your box blade to hook your chain in this will let you left the logs higher off the ground
Been missing you sawing.
The water simulates a clear varnish veneer. Cool!
I had my WM15 for 8 years, before the farm was sold. What my «mentor» (he was 90 years old, worked the woods in Norway all his life) told me was that those logs, which has such tremendous warp built in - was never cut to boards. They were cut to use as biggest possible construction beams, and when installed correctly - they made sure the building would never sag. Just a tip. I can still smell the wood watching your vids. Keep up the posting. It is like porn to me. Greetings from NOrway.
I have learned more about logging and building from old, woodwise Norwegians than anyone else. One look at the stave churches tells you that these people mastered the art of building with wood. Excellent information!
@@LogHewer Wood has many disciplines or rather used to have. Carpentry is one of them. Many others have been lost, like barrel maker, cobbler, or big wooden spoon maker. Then there's all the wood used for horse carriages, sedan cars, farming tools and of course the lost art of wooden interior moldings, stairs and tools handle.
The ones with rot, you could dry them out and make some small epoxy river looking items
Great video on skiding the log back and turning it into a cant and then sawing it into boards. My wife and I just got our first mill a 40 wide with simple set, isnt it about time to harvest your honey.
Honey is played out for the year. I harvested about 50lb last week, but it was leftover from late spring. You'll love that mill!
Mill saws are incredibly satisfying
1st... I really enjoy your videos..Keep up the good work..:)
Awesome! Thank you!
I bought the book and you said in your introduction that your father in law won the lottery he must have had a low lottery date of birth number...I was eligible for the draft lottery the same year he was...my number was 316 and I think they went up to about 230 that first year so I did not get drafted. I sometimes regret not going to Viet Nam and at 68 years old now if I could go back in time I would have just enlisted. I is something I regret not doing. I am glad your father in law made it home and I am embarrassed about what happened when those guys came home. I lost 6 life long friends that went and 2 of my best friends came back home pretty messed up they both died very young. Great book so far thanks for your recommendation.
I think his number was 96.
@@falllineridge Yes that is why he was drafted 96 was a low number they went up to 250 something that year ..my friend I was working a summer job together and he with had number 15 and he was in boot camp 6 weeks later...he did not make it and I often think back to that day he found out his lottery number...I still think of that day. Like I said my number was 316 I was not called. I am just getting started on your father in law's book I look forward to finishing the book. Thank you for your channel you remind me of my son who lives in Alabama a hard worker and good person like you.
I love working with cherry unfortunately once you find a wind fall cherry you have to jump on it quick because it soaks up a lot of moisture.
The drying process should stop the rot. You can use some epoxy to cover the bad spot and strengthen the wood. It would add some character to your floors
Usually with hardwood you cut around the Heart of the tree and end up with a cant. This way you try to eliminate pith in your lumber. I am a NHLA Inspector at Baillie Lumber Yard
Looking at the cross-section of the cut tree, it is quite hard and beautiful.
Thats some pretty wood still. Wood make some killerr planks fir a log cabin porch steps
Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana.
Hello!
2 questions Kimo Sabe: 1 Why didn't you orient the rot section parallel to the blade? and Are you planning to salvage anything from the lower section of that log? Thanks.
Just didn't think about it. I haven't decided on that lower section yet.
Great video once again Wes. Loved the colour and grain of that cherry. As you only managed to get a few usable boards from this tree, do you dry them and keep them in store until you have more cherry to make a usable amount for use on a project? Best wishes to you and your family. Take care and Stay Safe! Stan
I'll probably just mix them with other species. We are planning on a multi species wood floor for the living room.
Your work is amazing👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you!
I haven't tuned in for a long time. Looks like I've missed a lot! New tractor and a new mill! You ever use the old blue Ford anymore? Great looking cherry, man.
Great job
Good looking cherry tree hope you more .
Cherry is a beautiful wood but very hard to find - and very expensive if you choose to buy it... Nice Job!
Beautiful Cherry Wood
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A very nice sawing setup you have there. I have a lot of cherry but unfortunately have been losing a lot to black ants and often bee hives.
Frankly, beyond clearing brush, those grapplers are as my Dad used to say... "are as useless as teats on a boar hog" in the overall scheme of versatility. Typically, with a log of that size or even a little larger, attach the chain just barely forward of the balance point of the log, lift it by the chain from the side of your grappler and slowly just carry it along the side your tractor with the heavy end just barely dragging to keep it pointed in the direction you're headed...no fuss, no muss.
BTW, a simple hook around the log won't slip at all, cinching a chain is never a good idea.
The stress in the log may be due to lying on the ground where it becomes moisture laden much more so on ground facing side. If you have an eye on a particular log, support if off the ground for about 6-8 months to allow it to dry naturally. Likewise, felling a live tree during the winter months when water (sap) has retreated from the tree into the ground makes a huge difference when drying a log the following summer.
The water really make a big difference,it is a vey nice lumber!
Beautiful cherry wood! I'm new to this and was wondering how long you let it dry before use and how do you stack it? Thanks for the video.
I wonder how much of that tension was caused by the soggy wood in the center.
Like the cherry boards!
Thanks! Good to see you here.
I been using Lacquer instead of polyurethane. No yellowing affect. Especially on interior pine.
Last thing I made, a small cabinet, I used poly on the horizontal surface for protection, and lacquer for the vertical. I do like working with lacquer better than poly.
Thanks to your father in law for his service. Semper Fi
Good video my friend.
Thank you 👍
Good morning. I don't care much for the smell of Cherry, however the lumber is amazing. I have lots of them on the farm.they grow like weeds here. I have some as big as 36" in diameter. have a great day. Ron
That's amazing, the ones we have are pitiful.
That is quite some how in that first cut, which got me thinking. If you wanted to play Robin Hood and his merry men, you have just the right piece of wood to make the bows from with all that tension lololol.
Joking aside, the rest cut pretty flat and you have done lovely timber to use once its dried, cracking wind fall, better than firewood.
Ha! It might make a decent toy bow, no kidding.
Beautiful
Not a problem with the tractor, you just didn't make the trail wide enough. Just kidding. Great video. Good looking lumber.
Haha, good point!
I have cut a lot of cherry trees down in my day mostly for firewood and in my later years for smoking meats my son and I prefer it over anything else
Nice wood!
Awesome!!
14:50 how do you make the sound so it's muffled, or sounds like it's underwater?
As usual a quality video from you. I have a friend that's retired n now, but was an avid wood turner, especially face plate turning; the uglier the burl, the better. He had few dents in his wall behind the lathe.
There was a "Dirty Jobs" where they were in Tennessee snaking logs out of the woods using mules. Ever get a snake surprise out in the woods?
Oddly enough, I haven't come across any in the woods this year. Saw one at the pond a few months ago.
As a professional sawyer my experience is that most if not all fruit woods tend to develop heart rot of some sort....and are better quarter sawn than flat sawn....but this in turn provides narrower boards and more waste....
Do you have any updates on your solar kiln? I'm building a smaller version and was wondering if you have learned anything since you made adjustments?
Would a logging sled help reduce gravel/dirt in the log? It may also reduce damage to your soil / paths.
I welded up a log arch I can pull with a ball old trailer axle cut down. Works great
log skidding arch and log skate trailer can attach to the hitch and use a come-along and lift the entire log up to carry.
2 wheels and it is easy to move around. ends that dirt in the bark problem and if you can weld, you can make them yourself.
Very nice. Decent millable cherry in central GA is awful hard to come by.
Yes it is.
You flat sawed the whole log without looking at your boards. Suggest you grade saw to get the most usable lumber. Grade sawing is sawing to the best face. Keep rotating after each cut to find the nicest face. Sometimes a defect will run all the way through on one face.
If you back up to that log and drop the box blade on ground against the log, then hook it over the top ov blade you can get it off ground and out of the dirt!
I worked in a sawmill on the west coast and we called a log under tension, 'timber bound'.
In cabinetmaking we can counter that tension by finding the right spot and drilling a hole. Unwarps wood. But, then we have to work around that... Also good for restorations with warping. But, furniture has more leeway than structures...
good luck, try a big persimon tree. they are twisty; two of my bigger scout took the challenge with new axes. 6 hours later and three axe blade resharpens and many two person saw blades!
ive milled wild cherry here in Va and im not a fan, it does not dry very strait, the grain usually goes both ways in the board, making it hard to plane. best for smoking or heat in the wood stove.
Really enjoy your videos. You seem to expend no effort in setting the depth of the cut as you cut off the boards. How do you keep the depth of the planks uniform?
Good video, awesome looking grain in that timber. Be good for kitchen bench top. Nice work!
hello from Maine the land of woods and Lobster that was once caught in wood...ha !
hey, do you ever or often cut thinner slabs/strips of the lumber you select for mill runs and projects as in 1/2 '' or thinner?
Rock On,
H.L.
The most attractive wooden floor I've seen is in Cardiff Castle, Wales, UK. As I remember it is in the first floor of the Norman Keep. The boards, oak I would imagine, are not cut straight at the edges but curved, possibly to follow the natural shape of the board. Then I would think the next board is chosen for a shape that matches and is trimmed to fit properly. It looks amazing and I was very struck by it. It may be a method that is used in some old buildings but I don't remember seeing it anywhere else. I've looked for pics online but without success so far. If I find anything I'll let you know
That's really incredible. That's real craftsmanship.
@@falllineridge It must have been hard with the tools they had centuries ago. Maybe these days it wouldn't be as difficult but it would take a lot longer to lay the floor than with boards cut parallel. I've never forgotten it though, it looked superb. Hopefully I can get some photos of the floor sometime in the next few months
might have had a different outcome had the log been turned a bit more. Wild Cherry has known rot issues mine was probably 20-30' tall but it had rot about 4' up from the base totally nothing but the bark there when it decided to fall on a out building then the heart was gone too. pretty wood if you can catch it in time that's why cherry is mostly sold in small quantity size pieces like flooring.
nice job say dry then you wet it some more...:)
I also just got my 1st book "Eyes of the snake" (Marine Cobra pilot ) published on Amazon- hope you enjoy it as well
Thanks
Good Video. Why did you use your box blade versus your boom pole to drag the log out of the woods?
Because it was just what was no the tractor at the time. Poor choice really.