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None of it was top grade lumber but yes there is a lot of good usable wood in there for projects that can have the defects cut out and glue up to make what you need. Thanks for commenting.
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That old log made some beautiful lumber. This is the first video of yours that I've ever watched and your voice reminds me of a very dear friend of mine that I've known for 50 years now. I really enjoyed the video sir. Take care and may you and your family have an amazing New Year.
Enjoyed listening and watching the skills of saving the wood. I recently saw a similar saw and trees being cut up into roof beams at my uncle’s farm in Leitrim, Ireland. Amazing to see. Thank you for sharing your expertise & saving such a greatly aged tree which lives on. Happy New Year to you and your family, friends & colleagues.
Awesome ! I used to have only 25 Acres & heated house with 2 stoves . I called a guy in every year . He had a 40-20 cord King . He could process 17 Bush Cord in 4 hours ! I would load logs . He Cost about $500 ! Well worth it !
I can see the different issues you faced doing a salvage log that must of laid in some yard for a good while before you got hold of it. Expensive at times but then there is the log with a nice reward that evens things hopefully
You can get a minelab 900 which is about $1150 and should last a lifetime. The ones that are made for logs can cost up to $4000 and won't detect any better. It also has a telescoping handle for ease of use and you can hang it on the wall for convenient use.
When stacking the lumber, choose one end as the reference end and place the first sticker right even with the end of the boards. While air drying, the lumber will crack on the end as it dries faster from that exposed end than the flats and it will crack in as far as the first sticker. Then place the rest of the stickers at the proper interval so the final sticker will be as near the other end as possible. This will minimize the wasted wood on each end. Depending on the normal humidity of your area, you may want to add one more sticker per layer to minimize the warping between stickers too.
After I've cut down a tree for the sawmill, I put a heavy coat of paint on the log ends so when the planks are cut off each cant, the end grain will be fairly sealed and the splits will be minimized.
the metal detector will reach 5 to 8 inches so you might want to check every 5 or so inches. Win something is flat they work well but when the point is straight up to the flat surface of the detector it won't see it as well.
I had wanted to but by the time I got under the sapwood it really wasn’t quite big enough. That’s why it’s common to quarter saw white oak. You can keep the sapwood it’s the same color. So a 20 inch log is big enough to quarter saw.
So my mill did not come with an thing either. I used some 16 gauge that I salvaged from the very rough blade covers that I replaced. I made it 3 inches high x 4 inches wide. And transitioned to a 4 inch round then added a collar that was nice and straight. I don’t have a dust collector set up at this time. It dumps on the floors and I scoop it up.
New subscriber Like the contents good video You explained it very well I had a lot like that on mine I bent my frame on my Mill I got a Woodland Mills HM126 Do you have a good day have a good newthere's and we'll catch you on another one stay safe stay healthy
How kind of price did your wood mizer cost i think it dies a nice job. I brother had one years he loved it on a 100 acres mostly wooded. They built everything on the farm from it. I remember he m having fits when a nail would wipe the blade how much are blades now. My brother knew a guy that would repair lades for him. I would like to pick a mizer in the near future . Thank u for video. Ken C
Thanks for the reply. I’m glad you like it. The cost of mine is complicated. I built a lot of it myself. Blade that I buy are about twenty five dollars.
I loved your video but I'm curious as to your plans for 1" thick oak lumber. It has been my experience that if I cut oak to 1-5/8" I have a lot more options with it after it dries. I have cut lots of red oak to the same thickness as you did but I seam to not use it as much. Please know, I'm no expert I am just looking for ideas to use some of my 1" red oak.
@lawrenceroe5712 Thank you for the response. I have sold some white oak to some cabinet makers but I can't seam to get them interested in my red oak. It's strange how different areas of the country seam to like different styles. Or maybe I need to be a better salesman. 🤔
Gosh this was enjoyable. I know a thing or two about logs and lumber, but this video was so well done, I learned a lot. Your editing, explanation, and dialog are really outstanding. Most sawmill videos just make me shake my head and leave me with a ton of questions. The troublesome nail almost looked like a cut nail in the video which maybe possible given how close to the Center it was, but I doubt it. Do you have plywood attached to the 2x6 dam so you can scrape your sawdust right into the bucket? Your mill building layout is so well designed. Gold stars all around.
Thanks for the comment. And compliment. People seem to like the monologue. I have a very thick piece of plastic on the floor. I just use a scoop shovel at the end of the day. Maybe next year a cement floor.
Is this your main business? I'm assuming it is by your wood "lingo". Don't think I will be able to start my small business with that big of a mill. Hopefully will have an HM122 starter band sawmill this spring, with the Good LORDs Blessings. Subbed.
No it is not. I have owned a wood mizer LT10 since 2011. I have been sawing and learning anywhere I can since then. I plan to retire from my day job soon and focus on milling. I would like to do some mobile milling. I missed several jobs in the past because I wasn't willing to move my mill. A manual mill is hard on the back. Logs that weigh a ton or above are very difficult to manipulate. I wish you all the luck. thanks for the sub.
From here in Montana I would like to more about where you are. What kind of wood you normally cut? Do you sell to general public? lpo note beautiful lumber from where I Sit.
We are in North central Arkansas. Probably more hard woods than pine. Like red oaks, white oaks, gum, hickory, and cherry. Yeah I will sell to anyone but don’t have a store front. Not sure what the last part is about. Thanks for the comment.
An LT30 is a LT40 but 4 feet shorter. They were phased out of production in late 1990s. This one is a 1988 unit I purchased it within the last year it was a full manual mill. I purchased it disassembled and threw everything but the frame away. I had it sand blasted and began building it back and converting it to a hydraulic which were produced, just not this one. I have a solid 25 in it and lots of labor as well. But it’s really a new machine. Everything but the frame is and it’s been modified in places to accommodate the hydraulics. I have a video showing some on the modifications.
I had wanted a wood mizer LT40 for ever. Then they introduced the LT35 some years ago, I saw a hydraulic one and thought that’s the one, some day but for now a LT10 is what I can afford. I ran the LT10 for a number of years. Getting close to retirement from the day job I ordered a LT35. I was told the wait time officially was a year but it would be in in 6 months. It grew to be two years. So after having it on order for months I canceled it. Then went in search of a used 35 or 40 with a good balance between price and value. Months into that I decided it was not to be. Last attempt I changed my focus to mills that were in bad shape with lots of stuff needed to be fixed. And found this one at a price point I thought I could make work. I want to be able to have a like new mill a have less than a new one invested in it. This is a 1988 wood mizer LT30 manual mill. If you are not familiar it’s the same as a LT40 but 4 feet shorter. I stripped it to nothing but the frame left. Had it sand blasted. Primed and painted it and replace everything else with new parts. A lot from wood mizer, some not. I spent about 5 months of free time bringing it to where it is today. The engine is from harbor freight, it’s a knockoff 25 hp Honda. All of the hydraulic controls, hoses and cylinders are from WM. I ordered them to match a 1998 so I could have the 2 plane log clamp. I had to cut and bump out the frame for it. The turner is self built from scratch. Log loader is mostly from WM. The setworks are micron sw-350 pro. All electrical is my design. I wouldn’t trade it for a new Lt40 off the line. I have 60 hours on it so far and it’s been flawless.
Thanks for the comment. Yes when I had my smaller mill I would buy 10 degree and resharpen them to 7 deg so they were 7 x 39. I currently have some 7x47. If you are familiar there teeth are very long and skinny. Seems every time I hit something with them teeth get broken completely off of bent backward. I will use one of those on the top half of this log in a up coming video.
He said he had to get another mill because he wanted hydraulics.. Just letting you all know. Look at the Norwood mill, if you can't afford hydraulics at the time, Norwood offers the up grades to your same mill as you can afford with out buying another mill. Woodmizer doesn't have this option.
It would have been some nice firewood to. But it made some okay lumber though. Also parts of the lumber will probably end up as firewood anyway. There is definitely no reason to plane bad lumber.
I’m glad you watched. I suppose you could just turn off the sound. I’ve had lots of comments that like the play by play. It would be much easier for me to just put up the video. Would you prefer it to be full length as well? No editing.
Of all the sawing videos I've watched you are the only one that voice over explained what you were doing, well done
Thanks, I appreciate the comment. This video has done really well compared to all my others. I don’t know why. I wish I did.
I don't comment often. I'm impressed. Dude knows his stuff!
Thanks for the compliment. I’m glad you liked it.
Call me crazy but I still think that's a real nice piece of wood. Good job saving it from the firewood pile. Thanks!
None of it was top grade lumber but yes there is a lot of good usable wood in there for projects that can have the defects cut out and glue up to make what you need. Thanks for commenting.
Probably the best psycho therapy available.
Thanks for sharing, brother.
Love your work.
Your very welcome!
Very much enjoy your running commentary. I’m merely an elderly city slicker who is fascinated with how you sawyers employ your craft.
I appreciate the compliment! We do enjoy it, or at least I do. I hope you subscribed to make it easier to find upcoming videos.
God bless
You did a nice job with that old log!
Thanks I appreciate the comment
Superb content in all aspects. Thank you for posting.
Thanks for the reply. Appreciate the compliment!
I must admit, I wasn’t expecting much from that log.
Another great video!👍🏻
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I'm doing my best to put up new content on Fridays.
That old log made some beautiful lumber. This is the first video of yours that I've ever watched and your voice reminds me of a very dear friend of mine that I've known for 50 years now. I really enjoyed the video sir. Take care and may you and your family have an amazing New Year.
Thanks for the reply. I’m glad you enjoyed it. I hope you watch more.
Interesting
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Thanks for sharing your expertise in milling. That hydraulic mill sure in impressive. Following from Sydney Australia.
Wow thanks for watching!
Thx for sharing
My pleasure
It will just ad character!
And character is great
Enjoyed listening and watching the skills of saving the wood. I recently saw a similar saw and trees being cut up into roof beams at my uncle’s farm in Leitrim, Ireland. Amazing to see. Thank you for sharing your expertise & saving such a greatly aged tree which lives on. Happy New Year to you and your family, friends & colleagues.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I still have the other half I need to cut soon.
I had not heard the term "fletch" before. I'll use it from now on. Thanks!
Great thanks
Awesome ! I used to have only 25 Acres & heated house with 2 stoves . I called a guy in every year . He had a 40-20 cord King . He could process 17 Bush Cord in 4 hours ! I would load logs . He Cost about $500 ! Well worth it !
Sounds great!
I like the way you break the lumber down. ,As your sawing, killing two birds at a time well done!
Thanks glad you enjoyed it. A new one is coming up.
I can see the different issues you faced doing a salvage log that must of laid in some yard for a good while before you got hold of it. Expensive at times but then there is the log with a nice reward that evens things hopefully
Thanks for sharing, yes I believe it was worth it.
Enjoy the video's you put out. No music interruption.
Thanks I appreciate the feedback.
Thumbs Up 🙂
Thanks for the reply!❤️
hi there good sawing nails oh well john
Thanks John, if you like sawing nails you should check out my other video.
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You can get a minelab 900 which is about $1150 and should last a lifetime. The ones that are made for logs can cost up to $4000 and won't detect any better. It also has a telescoping handle for ease of use and you can hang it on the wall for convenient use.
Blades are fairly cheap by comparison to that.
Made some decent lumber in spite of all !👍
Yes it did. The other log from the the same tree will be posted next week.
When stacking the lumber, choose one end as the reference end and place the first sticker right even with the end of the boards. While air drying, the lumber will crack on the end as it dries faster from that exposed end than the flats and it will crack in as far as the first sticker. Then place the rest of the stickers at the proper interval so the final sticker will be as near the other end as possible. This will minimize the wasted wood on each end. Depending on the normal humidity of your area, you may want to add one more sticker per layer to minimize the warping between stickers too.
Thanks for the comment.
I do not see a subscribe button. I always have trouble finding it on a lot of sites
After I've cut down a tree for the sawmill, I put a heavy coat of paint on the log ends so when the planks are cut off each cant, the end grain will be fairly sealed and the splits will be minimized.
Nice slaps..👍🎄 Merry Christmas 🎁..
Thanks, you too!
the metal detector will reach 5 to 8 inches so you might want to check every 5 or so inches. Win something is flat they work well but when the point is straight up to the flat surface of the detector it won't see it as well.
Thanks for the advice.
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Glad you liked it thanks.
It would be cool if you could quarter saw this large log.
I had wanted to but by the time I got under the sapwood it really wasn’t quite big enough. That’s why it’s common to quarter saw white oak. You can keep the sapwood it’s the same color. So a 20 inch log is big enough to quarter saw.
Be sure to check out the other video from the same tree. It produces better lumber.
Carbide blades will cut right through nails and still work.
I appreciate the advice but I don’t think I will go that route.
Hell yeah😎🔥
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Much better than letting it get blocked up for firewood!
I agree, some boards were not so great but some were pretty nice.
You make nice furniture for the inside of the house instead of siding great job thanks ❤❤
Thanks for the comment. Glad you like it!
What is with the wavy look ? is the board flat, It looks like the blade is waving up and down is the board flat.
No, it’s completely flat. My blade lubricant is pumped in pulses. So for a few inches you have enough to wet the wood then none at all for a few.
I would like to see how you set up your dust collection. My smaller mill doesnt have a port so I am trying to find a 3d printer that can make one.
So my mill did not come with an thing either. I used some 16 gauge that I salvaged from the very rough blade covers that I replaced. I made it 3 inches high x 4 inches wide. And transitioned to a 4 inch round then added a collar that was nice and straight. I don’t have a dust collector set up at this time. It dumps on the floors and I scoop it up.
New subscriber Like the contents good video You explained it very well I had a lot like that on mine I bent my frame on my Mill I got a Woodland Mills HM126 Do you have a good day have a good newthere's and we'll catch you on another one stay safe stay healthy
Thanks for the subscribe. You have a good one too.
How kind of price did your wood mizer cost i think it dies a nice job. I brother had one years he loved it on a 100 acres mostly wooded. They built everything on the farm from it. I remember he m having fits when a nail would wipe the blade how much are blades now. My brother knew a guy that would repair lades for him. I would like to pick a mizer in the near future . Thank u for video. Ken C
Thanks for the reply. I’m glad you like it. The cost of mine is complicated. I built a lot of it myself. Blade that I buy are about twenty five dollars.
I loved your video but I'm curious as to your plans for 1" thick oak lumber. It has been my experience that if I cut oak to 1-5/8" I have a lot more options with it after it dries. I have cut lots of red oak to the same thickness as you did but I seam to not use it as much. Please know, I'm no expert I am just looking for ideas to use some of my 1" red oak.
Around here red oak is used a lot for cabinetry and furniture making.Planed to 7/8 to 13/16 is ideal for that.
@lawrenceroe5712 Thank you for the response. I have sold some white oak to some cabinet makers but I can't seam to get them interested in my red oak. It's strange how different areas of the country seam to like different styles. Or maybe I need to be a better salesman. 🤔
Gosh this was enjoyable. I know a thing or two about logs and lumber, but this video was so well done, I learned a lot. Your editing, explanation, and dialog are really outstanding. Most sawmill videos just make me shake my head and leave me with a ton of questions.
The troublesome nail almost looked like a cut nail in the video which maybe possible given how close to the Center it was, but I doubt it.
Do you have plywood attached to the 2x6 dam so you can scrape your sawdust right into the bucket? Your mill building layout is so well designed. Gold stars all around.
Thanks for the comment. And compliment. People seem to like the monologue. I have a very thick piece of plastic on the floor. I just use a scoop shovel at the end of the day. Maybe next year a cement floor.
Is this your main business? I'm assuming it is by your wood "lingo". Don't think I will be able to start my small business with that big of a mill. Hopefully will have an HM122 starter band sawmill this spring, with the Good LORDs Blessings. Subbed.
No it is not. I have owned a wood mizer LT10 since 2011. I have been sawing and learning anywhere I can since then. I plan to retire from my day job soon and focus on milling. I would like to do some mobile milling. I missed several jobs in the past because I wasn't willing to move my mill. A manual mill is hard on the back. Logs that weigh a ton or above are very difficult to manipulate. I wish you all the luck. thanks for the sub.
From here in Montana I would like to more about where you are. What kind of wood you normally cut? Do you sell to general public? lpo note beautiful lumber from where I Sit.
We are in North central Arkansas. Probably more hard woods than pine. Like red oaks, white oaks, gum, hickory, and cherry. Yeah I will sell to anyone but don’t have a store front. Not sure what the last part is about. Thanks for the comment.
I’m not familiar with a lt 30 hydraulic is this new? Mind saying what ballpark price is on a mill like this? Thank s enjoyed the vid.
An LT30 is a LT40 but 4 feet shorter. They were phased out of production in late 1990s. This one is a 1988 unit I purchased it within the last year it was a full manual mill. I purchased it disassembled and threw everything but the frame away. I had it sand blasted and began building it back and converting it to a hydraulic which were produced, just not this one. I have a solid 25 in it and lots of labor as well. But it’s really a new machine. Everything but the frame is and it’s been modified in places to accommodate the hydraulics. I have a video showing some on the modifications.
Tell me about the mill. Ive never seen that particular model
I had wanted a wood mizer LT40 for ever. Then they introduced the LT35 some years ago, I saw a hydraulic one and thought that’s the one, some day but for now a LT10 is what I can afford. I ran the LT10 for a number of years. Getting close to retirement from the day job I ordered a LT35. I was told the wait time officially was a year but it would be in in 6 months. It grew to be two years. So after having it on order for months I canceled it. Then went in search of a used 35 or 40 with a good balance between price and value. Months into that I decided it was not to be. Last attempt I changed my focus to mills that were in bad shape with lots of stuff needed to be fixed. And found this one at a price point I thought I could make work. I want to be able to have a like new mill a have less than a new one invested in it.
This is a 1988 wood mizer LT30 manual mill. If you are not familiar it’s the same as a LT40 but 4 feet shorter. I stripped it to nothing but the frame left. Had it sand blasted. Primed and painted it and replace everything else with new parts. A lot from wood mizer, some not. I spent about 5 months of free time bringing it to where it is today. The engine is from harbor freight, it’s a knockoff 25 hp Honda. All of the hydraulic controls, hoses and cylinders are from WM. I ordered them to match a 1998 so I could have the 2 plane log clamp. I had to cut and bump out the frame for it. The turner is self built from scratch. Log loader is mostly from WM. The setworks are micron sw-350 pro. All electrical is my design. I wouldn’t trade it for a new Lt40 off the line. I have 60 hours on it so far and it’s been flawless.
Sounds like you have a nice mill, after putting a lot of work into it.
One question. Do you sharpen your own blades or send them away etc?
He has a saw sharpening video here: ua-cam.com/video/IXWm0a5LVtU/v-deo.htmlsi=-gQqFUJqEop9BO_6
Thanks for the comment. Yes I sharpen my own. Here is a link Sharpening and Setting Blades
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Since this is an Oak have you ever used the 7* degree blade for hardwood? Ouch on the new Blade! There went what $30+! Ugh.
Thanks for the comment. Yes when I had my smaller mill I would buy 10 degree and resharpen them to 7 deg so they were 7 x 39. I currently have some 7x47. If you are familiar there teeth are very long and skinny. Seems every time I hit something with them teeth get broken completely off of bent backward. I will use one of those on the top half of this log in a up coming video.
Would have made some good fire wood. 😂
Yeah it would have, but it made some ok lumber. The second part made better lumber. That video is coming soon.
Sapwood or rot?
In places there one and the same!🤣
He said he had to get another mill because he wanted hydraulics..
Just letting you all know. Look at the Norwood mill, if you can't afford hydraulics at the time, Norwood offers the up grades to your same mill as you can afford with out buying another mill.
Woodmizer doesn't have this option.
No they don’t. They don’t really want you to do any mods. at all.
Dont ever forget someone had already trown that log away
Well they were going to use it to heat with.
Life is too short to saw bad logs. You should have made it into firewood
It would have been some nice firewood to. But it made some okay lumber though. Also parts of the lumber will probably end up as firewood anyway.
There is definitely no reason to plane bad lumber.
That all that saw some very nice slab come from fire wood ive made 1000s of dollars off of fire wood
stop whining and cut the dang thing ... ( we didn't come for the play by play ... )
I’m glad you watched. I suppose you could just turn off the sound. I’ve had lots of comments that like the play by play. It would be much easier for me to just put up the video. Would you prefer it to be full length as well? No editing.
Thx for sharing
Thanks for watching!