They forgot to type water when they edited the % bonus that's what I think Anyway they don't know anything about crafting to the point they make it easy and make it worthless at the same time
I believe they need to lower the drop rate of potions why have a complex deep crafting system that has no purpose. Allow people to craft and coin for their hard work. I was noticing this doing chest runs before brim stones
I disagree strongly. The barrier to entry for pvp is high enough without making consumables more expensive. There's already a problem with only the richest and most powerful companies participating in wars and dominating oprs with everyone rocking bis. Why give them yet another advantage? This wouldn't affect the top companies collecting millions in taxes. It just makes it harder for everyone else to compete.
I agree, have all my town storage’s full (I don’t pvp I enjoy just farming) and finally dumped 1200 weight worth of potions. Totally worthless on trading place and will never use them.
It happens in every mmo after a year. Things like crafting that took us 6+ months to level to 200 become a barrier to new players who dont want to feel massively behind veterans so they keep steadily reducing the barriers to entry
As someone who has just recently started, i really dont see the point in this change. New World, at least to me, doesnt feel like a game where you're missing out on much when taking your time. Making stuff easier to level just reduces the amount of content and devalues the achievement.
@@felixmuller1526 I am a new player, and I completely agree with you. I see very little reason to have anything crafted other than storage chests and trophies for player houses. Everything else seems easy enough to get withput wasting my limited time on skills. And that sucks, because the main reason I gave new world a try was the player driven economy and crafting. I really liked SWG way back, and this was supposed to be akin to that. It is not.
Pretty sure azoth water is used in the t5 proficiency booster. Remove vials of azoth as a reward from aptitude caches and upping the other stuff is a good move they can do. I’m at 800 leatherworking apt and 250+ on others, buy orders for azoth are probably the most stable ranged price buy order item in the game as for 6 months or so. I’ll prob still generate these mats to roll arcana caches. But yes, heal potion drop rate is as overturned as great sword.
As a pvper we consume most of the pve potions like it is nothing. Opr spam lets me go through hundreds of potions. I often will stock up only to find myself low within a couple hours of pvping
Like to see the tinctures, ward, and coating potions usable in armor and weapon recipes. Good ward and bane equipment for each mutation is a pain to come by. Could just add an infused material recipe to refining, thus adding the specific bane or ward based on the material you use.
they always said that azoth in itself was very important to maintain value as a thing, I'm not sure if it's due to "azoth studios" being embedded/branded/baked into the game or it's part of the lore in the lore... they were careful when they started reducing the cost of travels back in the days and it has continued lowering value even when it has more uses now
Well thats where it gets odd, many content creators assumed they where removed when AGS made the post about "listening to players", but fyi, they never removed them lol, log onto the ptr..
So true I agree with everything %100, they keep making bis items available as easy to get pve drops, which hurts the economy because it makes the pool of tradable expensive items narrower. If it goes like this soon there won't be a reason to craft or grind m10 runs other than a passtime
I'm super happy new/returning players are coming to the game but with these new changes making everything easier is really frustrates me when a company member comments they finally got to 200 in a crafting skill and act like it was hard work. I leveled everything to 200 before any of the changes and the effort felt rewarding. Now I feel stupid for doing it when it took effort.
@@justin7143 it the instant gratification culture of our society these days, so few want to put much work into anything. They want to be BiS within a couple weeks and then they complain about having nothing to do and eventually move on to a new game. Problem is some studios cater to those complaints and once those content locusts move on all that is left is disappointed gamers that didn't mind the grind of an MMO.
yeah had the same problem. Thats why Im not even leveling any more profession, its pointless. I mean 1 year later we may not even need a 200 prof to be able to craft 590+ items.
It could have felt rewarding for them too. They could have not done the most efficient way of leveling something and went out and farmed all their materials by themselves. I think just because you've done something and now someone else has done it in an easier environment doesn't degrade what you've done and can still be rewarding for them. That's almost like saying you flew around the world before modern planes and you were proud of that but now that jets are a thing, you feel like you wasted your time flying earlier. A new pilot can still be proud that they have flown around the world and you can still feel what you did was rewarding. Each person's experience is their own and does not need to be compared to everyone else. We don't struggle and provide a better life for those around us to hope that they can have the same struggles in the future.
my only guess would be to make it harder for bots to make easy gold without having to fully ban them or take the time to investigate someone as a bot even though its pretty clear when a bot is running. so now for the gel they have to quest in order to go gather the gel. Idk but then again this is the PTR an things can always change or be rebalanced before its live.
might have to do with countering bots? since aloe comes from cactus which are in brimstone thats is alot harder to level up a char to bot. so in amazons eyes their making it so botters have to spend time getting to 60 before they can bot resource. which in terms makes it easier to detect and ban them?
Hey i did'nt know where i should post this to ask but. I was building a luck set and looking at available items, Lucky Periapt is one i came across. It seems like its an interesting mob thats difficult to find and wondering if you've come across it. Lucky Wenet is the mob that drops it.
I honestly don't mind this change, BUT make it cost more Azoth 10-25? per craft then make azoth water salvage-able into 10 azoth effectively making it a "mini" suspended vial of azoth. The reason why I think this is a good change, following my suggestion is that there needs to be more azoth sinks. Make it a full on pve currency and add a pve vendor that allows you to buy materials and craft mods with azoth and increase the player azoth wallet cap to like 5-10k. This keeps azoth water still very useful & creates a whole new endgame system that can be added to. Oh want more Asmodeum? go to the Azoth Exchange Vendor in Weavers(for example) and buy 10 Asmo a day(increasing daily limit to 20 with smelting) costing 500 Azoth per bar. This is what I would do anyways *add more currencies*, while people hate having an overwhelming amount of currencies(look at Lost Ark for example) its extremally healthy for an MMO to have more ways to get rewards. So if they want to roll with this potion change it needs to have proper value and contribute to a new system instead of just changing it because they can without reason.
very odd. they definitely need to rework crafting, i grinded armoring to 200 and was working on trophies, but realized theres no money to be made in it, the mats themselves are worth so much more. it shouldnt be that way. they need to rethink a lot of things, but will they?
Isn't it true that many changes come to PTR incrementally, that is, in bits and pieces that don't necessarily make sense alone but are more understandable all together? Perhaps this is one of them.
So little update to myself i looked a bit more into it and did some calculation so lets say U as a player have like me one town lvl 300 and the others arround lvl 100 u need 15k azoth vials to max every town too lvl 300 instandly obv u still need like 7+ million hyssop, also anyone knows when this update is supposed to come ?
I'm absolutely loving the potion prices. I believe the commoness of them, is the result of players complaining about the prices of potions, if you commonly ran dungeons, OPR, and wars. I'm sitting on a large stock pile of health, regens, and manas. It's amazing... NOW, the changes. The azoth water being removed from the recipe, I love. Azoth water was an absolute pain to gather, and they were just so far out of the way, with limited nodes. During the peak of potion prices, I tried to keep up my own potions, via farming all of the mats. VERY VERY time consuming, when I run through a 100 stack within a few OPRs. Love the removal of azoth water, and replacing it with azoth...making it even more relevant. The price of azoth vials is till pretty cheap. Now, the hyssop thing. This I'm not a fan of. BUT, it could have to do with the prices of herbs. A LOT of them are cheap cheap cheap. With less farming hyssop, this will bring the prices up...making it worth farming the herbs specifically. For sure an odd change, but I can kind of see the reasoning behind it.
I say aloe is extremly easy to farm as well the hyssop people just switch to aloe farm and farm the atripute crates from arcana witch will tank the economy if this go live coz u can go like 100 attripute crates if u have enough aloe and azoth water
As many MMO's as I've played the biggest issue for New World is there is no revenue stream besides a onetime purchase, and maybe a player buys something from the overpriced game shop. As there is no subscription model, any content pay walls, or pay to win/convenience purchases for the game it will need to generate revenue through new players joining the game. To keep new players engaged in the game they have to lower the grind and hope new players buy from the game shop, every MMO does this especially ones that have a terrible business model like New World. A lot of people I've talked to have told me these changes are why they've come back to new world bringing new players with them. This obviously worked in New World's favor and now that it is proven to do so you should probably expect this "nerf" trend to continue. Very few MMO's take care of the veteran population its all about bringing in new players and hoping to net some Whales.
Yeah it takes a lot of grind out making crafting easier but at the same time crafting was in such a bad spot. No reason to spend 50k plus in mats just to get a chance at rolling a legendary and an even smaller chance the legendary will be BIS. No reason to do that when there’s a bis drop at pmuch every dungeon
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming Not everyone is a try hard. For a mmo game to succeed and make money, it appeals to the masses. Not to a group of sweaty boys trying to impress their own egos. I got work in the morning, I'd rather not fight with a bot over resources.
i hope they have a idea about crafting system because after the brimstone there is no point to craft gear tons of bis gears are dropping on mobs. Why people have to craft gear it's pointless.
Keep ranting, you have a good point, I think AGS needs to re work and introduce not only new content , but maybe look at removing 99% of the magical 590 drops . Too much is too much. No value to it now .
So strange. I've been waiting for them to do *more* with Azoth Water. Currently it's just alkahest, but this change makes it useless? Maybe they are trying to reduce the number of Azoth Vials in the game and they have other plans for Azoth Water?
The coin change might be because of the bots, scammers and trade flippers. Lowering the need for coin also lowers the incentive to cheat for coin. I am here thinking back to Warhammer Online which had very few coin syncs.
Crafting should be the only way to get 600 gs items and tier 5 food potions etc. They need to limit the skills people have access to aswell. So everyone get mining skinning harvesting and logging then you can choose an additional 3 or 4 trades to level locking you out of the rest. Everyone can make coin farming the basic crafting mats from mining gathering etc but the real coin comes from crafting your tier 5 gear food potions etc from your chosen 3 or 4 trades.
I think they over compensated alot with crafting. It was never really that hard to lvl and that's is kinda the point in a mmo. I want it to feel worth having a max lvl in a trade skill so I can feel like I accomplished something. Mabye even have people come to you to craft stuff. I mean they still can by expanding trade skills with the ability to have 3 skills you can become a expert at. And make it so no one else can be expert at that skill. 3 per character. Instead of making everything easier. They just listened to the whiny trolls way too much. It's a mmo. It's supposed to take time and effort to be max in a skill.
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming If they were going to make a massive economic change why didnt they do it before fresh start? Im slowly remembering why I stopped playing around this time last year.
fuck man this is looking grim for crafters , no prestige anymore everyone is 200 on all crafts now days this is very very sad for ppl who only play for crafting/gathering side of the game...
They have made the game EaSY. Look at the stagger changes to mobs throughout the game. This is a trend that will impact the longevity that individual players stay in the game. I don’t PVP, have my ward sets, done the dungeons at gold, all of them. I’m struggling to log in. Ps not a fresh start server player. This doesn’t bode well.
The AGS team is poorly managed. They aren't aware of the pieces on the board in the game that they've made and the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Amatures.
To try and answer your question: Think they are "slowly" (imo quite fast but not instant) moving into seasonal play. Theres no monthly sub and fresh attracted lot of players. Something like seasons would be a thing.. I'm so sure about this that I want to say "you just wait and see". They want to make everything much faster so even crafting can be seasonal thing. Now that gathering skills are already 4x exp since brimstone came out.. next is crafting. It will become fast to gear up with named items from brimstone and all tools we are receiving to just make everything go fast.. we will be moving into seasons like Diablo or other games. And merge fresh starts together when they die and have like 1 server from each season. Some people hate this and some will like because it is something different on mmorpg landscape and will attract certain players that dont normally enjoy mmorpgs, especially pvp players. I run pvp guild atm on fresh and some people say that they will quit after most get to 625 cause they dont like grinding mutations and that sort of gear. We are having a blast now but yea..
@@gotcrazy4897 Leading pvp company on Ulthar, come say hi! Legacy server i have all maxed, all trophies and 160k gold. Could have more but whats the real point? Also did all m10 except Ennead. The first week of release kinda was awful cause had to climb and there was many other things to discover. And now it was first real week as mutation on fresh too.. but i get there. At least something to look forward. :) They already made the gathering not 1,5 or even 2x but 4x faster.. its ridicilous really. Just wait ^^
Nw really becoming a meme. It has literally zero grind anymore and it’s getting easier and easier still. Makes the game feel very very boring at endgame sadly. I have literally no fun playing anymore
I maxed arcana if you check my old old guides, 2 weeks after launch when I was level 52.. it was always easy, only 2 mats to really farm,, now the azoth water was a bottleneck for sure, but not that bad of one, the issue is once maxed wtf do you do with it ?
@@analog_andyboxspeedproduct8551 you say this but at the same peeps complain about being able tp get BiS from drops, which is something that makes people self sufficient. It's more like people only complain about the things they use to make coin. To be clear, I agree with you and the idea that being self sufficient should be the goal. I personally think crafting is entirely too important in this game in terms of it being how you get the best gear and how you make the coin...which you only actually need so that you can get the best gear...I don't know what the solution is, but it's all broken af right now imho.
I am one of the weird ones who likes the crafting and gathering more then pvp. It would be nice if their was a long term crafting system that can't be maxed out in a week or two(this is my first run dont know how long it takes). Maybe make it long term like the weapon expertise.
@@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor I don't mind the crafting at all. My issue is that it is the difference between crafting to have BiS vs options to get BiS from doing actual fighting content. I think it needs to be more balanced. People cry about content, but they don't want to play the content that's there. It's all about speed runs and earning coin ASAP so you can BUY the best gear. Not sure what the solution is, but they know it and I think they are working on figuring out what they want it to look like. I too think limiting the crafting you can be maxed on is a great idea. But meh, it's not a massive issue in my eyes. I have fun playing so everything else is minor :)
this video is a tldr of "stop making game easy wahhhhh and then u wonder why the game fell off few weeks after the start. gear abundance is good since ur "god roll" outside of named is rare to get and valuable to sell. Potion drop rate is fine. allows newer and lesser neckbeards to participate in wars etc
Haha cry more. Sorry you want an easy mode because you’re a snowflake… “Boohoo I can’t get gear after 1 hour of playing” “gimme gimme gimme, it isn’t fair” Put in some work for once, feel a sense of accomplishment. Little bitch
Maybe you did not follow the game at the start as close as you think, the reason it fell off was because there where so many dupes, wich led to economy crash, when everything lost value, and people found themselves farming for countless hours to make a couple thousand coin.. wich is exactly what is starting to happen again thanks to everything being so easy
Hey guys, just a heads up about a change I encountered on the PTR that will have some big impact on the economy, Enjoy!
They forgot to type water when they edited the % bonus that's what I think
Anyway they don't know anything about crafting to the point they make it easy and make it worthless at the same time
I believe they need to lower the drop rate of potions why have a complex deep crafting system that has no purpose. Allow people to craft and coin for their hard work. I was noticing this doing chest runs before brim stones
I disagree strongly. The barrier to entry for pvp is high enough without making consumables more expensive. There's already a problem with only the richest and most powerful companies participating in wars and dominating oprs with everyone rocking bis. Why give them yet another advantage? This wouldn't affect the top companies collecting millions in taxes. It just makes it harder for everyone else to compete.
Yeah no lie if it was a hassle to get I would ask for a stack b4 every war
Just a few months ago on a decent server it was over 15 gold for 1 health potion.
I agree, have all my town storage’s full (I don’t pvp I enjoy just farming) and finally dumped 1200 weight worth of potions. Totally worthless on trading place and will never use them.
How about make wars and OPR like arena, where consumables become infinite? At the same time make potions much more rare and worth something.
It happens in every mmo after a year. Things like crafting that took us 6+ months to level to 200 become a barrier to new players who dont want to feel massively behind veterans so they keep steadily reducing the barriers to entry
I understand that, the issue I have is not only are they lowering the bar for catch up, but they are doubling down by making the crafts pointless
As someone who has just recently started, i really dont see the point in this change. New World, at least to me, doesnt feel like a game where you're missing out on much when taking your time. Making stuff easier to level just reduces the amount of content and devalues the achievement.
@@felixmuller1526 I am a new player, and I completely agree with you.
I see very little reason to have anything crafted other than storage chests and trophies for player houses. Everything else seems easy enough to get withput wasting my limited time on skills.
And that sucks, because the main reason I gave new world a try was the player driven economy and crafting. I really liked SWG way back, and this was supposed to be akin to that. It is not.
Except people on day 1 were grinding out to max levels with tier 1 materials until they changed it and screwed everyone to come in after.
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming pointless to u.
Tbh azoth water should just give you azoth directly, would simplify every recipe involving azoth water, add a purpose to those pools to collect
In my server azoth water is 3.5 gold each its stupid to lvl whit infused pots u take like 3000% lost whit em and pots are pretty much free 0.01
They are just trying to find more ways for people to use Azoth since we are all overloaded with it. Gel thing is weird though.
Pretty sure azoth water is used in the t5 proficiency booster. Remove vials of azoth as a reward from aptitude caches and upping the other stuff is a good move they can do. I’m at 800 leatherworking apt and 250+ on others, buy orders for azoth are probably the most stable ranged price buy order item in the game as for 6 months or so. I’ll prob still generate these mats to roll arcana caches. But yes, heal potion drop rate is as overturned as great sword.
As a pvper we consume most of the pve potions like it is nothing. Opr spam lets me go through hundreds of potions. I often will stock up only to find myself low within a couple hours of pvping
This is true, but when the market has them at .02 now , clearly the imput is out pacing consumption :/
Basic motivational psychology; if you need to work for something you appreciate it more. Something AGS doesn't seem to know....😉
This
Like to see the tinctures, ward, and coating potions usable in armor and weapon recipes. Good ward and bane equipment for each mutation is a pain to come by. Could just add an infused material recipe to refining, thus adding the specific bane or ward based on the material you use.
they always said that azoth in itself was very important to maintain value as a thing, I'm not sure if it's due to "azoth studios" being embedded/branded/baked into the game or it's part of the lore in the lore... they were careful when they started reducing the cost of travels back in the days and it has continued lowering value even when it has more uses now
Probably was intended for the reflexive potions, but it didn't get rolled back when they removed the potions.
Well thats where it gets odd, many content creators assumed they where removed when AGS made the post about "listening to players", but fyi, they never removed them lol, log onto the ptr..
So true I agree with everything %100, they keep making bis items available as easy to get pve drops, which hurts the economy because it makes the pool of tradable expensive items narrower. If it goes like this soon there won't be a reason to craft or grind m10 runs other than a passtime
What is the easiest thing to mass craft to farm for furnishing aptitude boxes?
Rugs or for me I like golden steel chests, but its a rare recipe
Chests? You can run a 3 boss circuit in a few zones and rack up 200 infused health pots in about two hours
ya, its rediculous
I'm super happy new/returning players are coming to the game but with these new changes making everything easier is really frustrates me when a company member comments they finally got to 200 in a crafting skill and act like it was hard work. I leveled everything to 200 before any of the changes and the effort felt rewarding. Now I feel stupid for doing it when it took effort.
I made a comment like this on a Reddit post, people get really offended by hearing this truth.
@@justin7143 it the instant gratification culture of our society these days, so few want to put much work into anything. They want to be BiS within a couple weeks and then they complain about having nothing to do and eventually move on to a new game.
Problem is some studios cater to those complaints and once those content locusts move on all that is left is disappointed gamers that didn't mind the grind of an MMO.
cry more neckbeard
yeah had the same problem. Thats why Im not even leveling any more profession, its pointless. I mean 1 year later we may not even need a 200 prof to be able to craft 590+ items.
It could have felt rewarding for them too. They could have not done the most efficient way of leveling something and went out and farmed all their materials by themselves. I think just because you've done something and now someone else has done it in an easier environment doesn't degrade what you've done and can still be rewarding for them.
That's almost like saying you flew around the world before modern planes and you were proud of that but now that jets are a thing, you feel like you wasted your time flying earlier. A new pilot can still be proud that they have flown around the world and you can still feel what you did was rewarding.
Each person's experience is their own and does not need to be compared to everyone else. We don't struggle and provide a better life for those around us to hope that they can have the same struggles in the future.
my only guess would be to make it harder for bots to make easy gold without having to fully ban them or take the time to investigate someone as a bot even though its pretty clear when a bot is running. so now for the gel they have to quest in order to go gather the gel. Idk but then again this is the PTR an things can always change or be rebalanced before its live.
Then what is Azoth water used for now? Isn’t potion crafting like the only use for it?
might have to do with countering bots? since aloe comes from cactus which are in brimstone thats is alot harder to level up a char to bot. so in amazons eyes their making it so botters have to spend time getting to 60 before they can bot resource. which in terms makes it easier to detect and ban them?
that part is fine, the azoth is my real concern
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming yea that makes me scratch my head idk guess we will find out
Hey i did'nt know where i should post this to ask but. I was building a luck set and looking at available items, Lucky Periapt is one i came across. It seems like its an interesting mob thats difficult to find and wondering if you've come across it. Lucky Wenet is the mob that drops it.
I honestly don't mind this change, BUT make it cost more Azoth 10-25? per craft then make azoth water salvage-able into 10 azoth effectively making it a "mini" suspended vial of azoth. The reason why I think this is a good change, following my suggestion is that there needs to be more azoth sinks. Make it a full on pve currency and add a pve vendor that allows you to buy materials and craft mods with azoth and increase the player azoth wallet cap to like 5-10k.
This keeps azoth water still very useful & creates a whole new endgame system that can be added to. Oh want more Asmodeum? go to the Azoth Exchange Vendor in Weavers(for example) and buy 10 Asmo a day(increasing daily limit to 20 with smelting) costing 500 Azoth per bar.
This is what I would do anyways *add more currencies*, while people hate having an overwhelming amount of currencies(look at Lost Ark for example) its extremally healthy for an MMO to have more ways to get rewards. So if they want to roll with this potion change it needs to have proper value and contribute to a new system instead of just changing it because they can without reason.
Is your ranting is spot on.
very odd. they definitely need to rework crafting, i grinded armoring to 200 and was working on trophies, but realized theres no money to be made in it, the mats themselves are worth so much more. it shouldnt be that way. they need to rethink a lot of things, but will they?
rip, hope it turns out better than feared
On an unrelated somewhat related note I bought 50 Embroidered Padding the other day.
Isn't it true that many changes come to PTR incrementally, that is, in bits and pieces that don't necessarily make sense alone but are more understandable all together? Perhaps this is one of them.
I think they have some major Arcana overhaul in mind and are messing with it to come up with a road map.
Its true they made leveling crafting so EZ now like back in the day when someone was max crafting is was nice to see now everyone is max
Ty for the info time to get some aloe😉
Any time!
this is sooooo good for leveling territory cause its freaking crap too farm this too lvl 300 winsward is my only town since 1800 hours beeing 300
So little update to myself i looked a bit more into it and did some calculation so lets say U as a player have like me one town lvl 300 and the others arround lvl 100 u need 15k azoth vials to max every town too lvl 300 instandly obv u still need like 7+ million hyssop, also anyone knows when this update is supposed to come ?
I'm absolutely loving the potion prices. I believe the commoness of them, is the result of players complaining about the prices of potions, if you commonly ran dungeons, OPR, and wars.
I'm sitting on a large stock pile of health, regens, and manas. It's amazing...
NOW, the changes.
The azoth water being removed from the recipe, I love. Azoth water was an absolute pain to gather, and they were just so far out of the way, with limited nodes. During the peak of potion prices, I tried to keep up my own potions, via farming all of the mats. VERY VERY time consuming, when I run through a 100 stack within a few OPRs. Love the removal of azoth water, and replacing it with azoth...making it even more relevant. The price of azoth vials is till pretty cheap.
Now, the hyssop thing. This I'm not a fan of. BUT, it could have to do with the prices of herbs. A LOT of them are cheap cheap cheap. With less farming hyssop, this will bring the prices up...making it worth farming the herbs specifically.
For sure an odd change, but I can kind of see the reasoning behind it.
I wonder if their plan with Azoth Water is to just let it be Azoth when salvaged. Keep up the good work!
this is good rant I agree sir! thanks for the vid!
When will the GS be increased?
I say aloe is extremly easy to farm as well the hyssop people just switch to aloe farm and farm the atripute crates from arcana witch will tank the economy if this go live coz u can go like 100 attripute crates if u have enough aloe and azoth water
Holy fuck that sword is beautiful
If they eliminate the challenge that comes with crafting by reducing barriers to entry I may have to quit
As many MMO's as I've played the biggest issue for New World is there is no revenue stream besides a onetime purchase, and maybe a player buys something from the overpriced game shop. As there is no subscription model, any content pay walls, or pay to win/convenience purchases for the game it will need to generate revenue through new players joining the game. To keep new players engaged in the game they have to lower the grind and hope new players buy from the game shop, every MMO does this especially ones that have a terrible business model like New World.
A lot of people I've talked to have told me these changes are why they've come back to new world bringing new players with them. This obviously worked in New World's favor and now that it is proven to do so you should probably expect this "nerf" trend to continue. Very few MMO's take care of the veteran population its all about bringing in new players and hoping to net some Whales.
Yeah it takes a lot of grind out making crafting easier but at the same time crafting was in such a bad spot. No reason to spend 50k plus in mats just to get a chance at rolling a legendary and an even smaller chance the legendary will be BIS. No reason to do that when there’s a bis drop at pmuch every dungeon
Its server side gathering.. all these changes sound good.
making things ridiculously easy, sounds good ?
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming Not everyone is a try hard. For a mmo game to succeed and make money, it appeals to the masses. Not to a group of sweaty boys trying to impress their own egos. I got work in the morning, I'd rather not fight with a bot over resources.
You rock! Farming gel now just in case llol
Coatings, Tinctures and crafting void gauntlets. thats about it
They are changing it because when they make the potions that go off automatically they will be way to expensive if they don’t nerf alkahest
I still do not think these will ever see live, there are 20 pages of rage on the forums in the ptr section demanding removal
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming yeah but usually its met with instant removal and there is no word on removing it yet
i hope they have a idea about crafting system because after the brimstone there is no point to craft gear tons of bis gears are dropping on mobs. Why people have to craft gear it's pointless.
I've got 5k azoth vials in storage...
Keep ranting, you have a good point, I think AGS needs to re work and introduce not only new content , but maybe look at removing 99% of the magical 590 drops . Too much is too much. No value to it now .
Arcana is used for coatings and magic weapons. No one used it for potions
wich lost all value long ago
The solution = Easy craft itens , on other hands, hard to get open world drop itens = good way
I hope this go live i both aloe 100k of it last week hopeing it will go up at some point for 0.10 each
So strange. I've been waiting for them to do *more* with Azoth Water. Currently it's just alkahest, but this change makes it useless? Maybe they are trying to reduce the number of Azoth Vials in the game and they have other plans for Azoth Water?
The coin change might be because of the bots, scammers and trade flippers. Lowering the need for coin also lowers the incentive to cheat for coin. I am here thinking back to Warhammer Online which had very few coin syncs.
They need a higher health potions
Don't tell AGS that, they'll make one that still heals the same amount but weighs 80 pounds!
@@Vomgnar. ooo gosh no
Crafting should be the only way to get 600 gs items and tier 5 food potions etc. They need to limit the skills people have access to aswell. So everyone get mining skinning harvesting and logging then you can choose an additional 3 or 4 trades to level locking you out of the rest. Everyone can make coin farming the basic crafting mats from mining gathering etc but the real coin comes from crafting your tier 5 gear food potions etc from your chosen 3 or 4 trades.
cry more
is Expansion available on PTR ?
i wont be buying DLC to check if its any good.
i feel sorry for the mages, they are getting clowned upon
If they want to make the crafting process easy and dirt cheap, then getting the item in the open world should be the opposite.
They need to let us upcycle pots.
Let us make a higher than infused pot.
Its because they wanted everyone to get to 60 and 200 in everything thats why
I think they over compensated alot with crafting. It was never really that hard to lvl and that's is kinda the point in a mmo. I want it to feel worth having a max lvl in a trade skill so I can feel like I accomplished something. Mabye even have people come to you to craft stuff.
I mean they still can by expanding trade skills with the ability to have 3 skills you can become a expert at. And make it so no one else can be expert at that skill. 3 per character. Instead of making everything easier. They just listened to the whiny trolls way too much. It's a mmo. It's supposed to take time and effort to be max in a skill.
Jesus christ I spent like 40k maxing arcana just for them to make it worthless 2 weeks later.
Right?
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming If they were going to make a massive economic change why didnt they do it before fresh start? Im slowly remembering why I stopped playing around this time last year.
Only 40k to 200? 😂 leveling a profession for that amount already makes it a joke
@@justin7143 40k on top of like 2 days straight farming mats...
@@Boarderguy96 exactly the point of my comment, and that confirms it. The game caters to instant gratification people and is only becoming worse
with ECR every day, maybe we no need to make it
Crafting feels bad when you're dumping 30k+ coin items into 1 craft for it to craft as 595 =P
They need to lower drop rate by 50x. Especially gear
ah typical elitist
fuck man this is looking grim for crafters , no prestige anymore everyone is 200 on all crafts now days this is very very sad for ppl who only play for crafting/gathering side of the game...
I just wish they can banned the bots farming resources all day and night none stop it annoying when I go out to farm resources and there's a bot there
They have made the game EaSY. Look at the stagger changes to mobs throughout the game. This is a trend that will impact the longevity that individual players stay in the game. I don’t PVP, have my ward sets, done the dungeons at gold, all of them. I’m struggling to log in. Ps not a fresh start server player. This doesn’t bode well.
how about we just re evaluate the whole crafting system since its usless tbh
The AGS team is poorly managed. They aren't aware of the pieces on the board in the game that they've made and the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Amatures.
like seriously, who is spending time to farm hyssop for coin? Like, who ? common..
lol most people ? You know you can easily in brimstone make 9-12k per hour consistently farming hyssop ?
To try and answer your question: Think they are "slowly" (imo quite fast but not instant) moving into seasonal play. Theres no monthly sub and fresh attracted lot of players. Something like seasons would be a thing.. I'm so sure about this that I want to say "you just wait and see". They want to make everything much faster so even crafting can be seasonal thing. Now that gathering skills are already 4x exp since brimstone came out.. next is crafting. It will become fast to gear up with named items from brimstone and all tools we are receiving to just make everything go fast.. we will be moving into seasons like Diablo or other games. And merge fresh starts together when they die and have like 1 server from each season. Some people hate this and some will like because it is something different on mmorpg landscape and will attract certain players that dont normally enjoy mmorpgs, especially pvp players. I run pvp guild atm on fresh and some people say that they will quit after most get to 625 cause they dont like grinding mutations and that sort of gear. We are having a blast now but yea..
You're smoking the best crack available... I'm guessing you aren't at endgame to even attempt to believe yourself... lmfso
@@gotcrazy4897 Leading pvp company on Ulthar, come say hi! Legacy server i have all maxed, all trophies and 160k gold. Could have more but whats the real point? Also did all m10 except Ennead. The first week of release kinda was awful cause had to climb and there was many other things to discover. And now it was first real week as mutation on fresh too.. but i get there. At least something to look forward. :)
They already made the gathering not 1,5 or even 2x but 4x faster.. its ridicilous really. Just wait ^^
Nw really becoming a meme. It has literally zero grind anymore and it’s getting easier and easier still. Makes the game feel very very boring at endgame sadly. I have literally no fun playing anymore
Arcana takes too long if this is right I'm glad
I maxed arcana if you check my old old guides, 2 weeks after launch when I was level 52.. it was always easy, only 2 mats to really farm,, now the azoth water was a bottleneck for sure, but not that bad of one, the issue is once maxed wtf do you do with it ?
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming the buffing potions sell well
@@5HeadSurvivalGaming ward potions? mote refining to fuel stonecutting/jewelcrafting?
The crafting system sucks. The RNG in it ruins the game.
They really need to cap how many skills you can master. Anyone with time can make anything they want. No demand...
so you want to cap ppl being self sufficient
@@analog_andyboxspeedproduct8551 you say this but at the same peeps complain about being able tp get BiS from drops, which is something that makes people self sufficient. It's more like people only complain about the things they use to make coin. To be clear, I agree with you and the idea that being self sufficient should be the goal. I personally think crafting is entirely too important in this game in terms of it being how you get the best gear and how you make the coin...which you only actually need so that you can get the best gear...I don't know what the solution is, but it's all broken af right now imho.
I am one of the weird ones who likes the crafting and gathering more then pvp.
It would be nice if their was a long term crafting system that can't be maxed out in a week or two(this is my first run dont know how long it takes). Maybe make it long term like the weapon expertise.
Lol🤣🤣🤣
@@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor I don't mind the crafting at all. My issue is that it is the difference between crafting to have BiS vs options to get BiS from doing actual fighting content. I think it needs to be more balanced. People cry about content, but they don't want to play the content that's there. It's all about speed runs and earning coin ASAP so you can BUY the best gear. Not sure what the solution is, but they know it and I think they are working on figuring out what they want it to look like. I too think limiting the crafting you can be maxed on is a great idea. But meh, it's not a massive issue in my eyes. I have fun playing so everything else is minor :)
this video is a tldr of "stop making game easy wahhhhh and then u wonder why the game fell off few weeks after the start. gear abundance is good since ur "god roll" outside of named is rare to get and valuable to sell. Potion drop rate is fine. allows newer and lesser neckbeards to participate in wars etc
Haha cry more. Sorry you want an easy mode because you’re a snowflake… “Boohoo I can’t get gear after 1 hour of playing” “gimme gimme gimme, it isn’t fair” Put in some work for once, feel a sense of accomplishment. Little bitch
Maybe you did not follow the game at the start as close as you think, the reason it fell off was because there where so many dupes, wich led to economy crash, when everything lost value, and people found themselves farming for countless hours to make a couple thousand coin.. wich is exactly what is starting to happen again thanks to everything being so easy
Dead world
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