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7mm Remington Magnum Handloads
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- This rifle built on a Remington Model 700 action shot really well. It tended to do really well with all the loads we developed. As we got closer to the maximum loads, the groups really tightened.
For more loads not shown in this video, please check out LoadData.com.
***Editors Note: The Barrel length was incorrectly stated at 24" the actual length is 26". Please keep this in mind when reviewing the velocities. We apologize for the inconvenience.
I've got a Remington BDL in 7mm Remington Magnum that was made in May of 75 with fluer de lis checkered stock.
I use the 139 gr. Hornady Interlock bullets for deer and 175 nosler partition bullets for elk and bear. I've never had to chase nothing whatsoever because it untracked them!
I am a handloader myself and I ain't giving you what the rest of my recipes are because every single rifle is different, albeit it is microscopic.
The rifle performed better I think than most people realize. Allot different weight bullets and different powders. The big one for me is the different depth to the lands. Really good load development. That was allot of searching I know.
Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to watch and comment! We did a fair amount of load development with this rifle, I usually state how many round in the video for testing. To be honest I did not tinker any more than I usually do I just have a lot of experience with this cartridge so I have a good idea of where the bullets should be seated based on case fill and distance to the lands depending upon Ogive design. The rifle did seem to take to the loads quite well. We try to show what works and exactly what we did to get those results. There are many combinations that don't work we want to show you what does work and make it repeatable as possible for the viewer. Thanks again for watching, we hope you enjoy our other videos as much as this one. --Jeremiah
The 7mm Rem Mag is by far the most versatile cartridge. It is one that I recommend to people when they come to me and ask my opinion of the best cartridge. It's easy to load for and factory ammo is usually available. Jeremiah thanks for all your work. Really enjoy the channel.
It really is a great cartridge, very versatile for sure. If you could only pick one cartridge for everything this one would definitely make my list. Thank you for the kind words and for watching I really appreciate it! --Jeremiah
My 7mm loved the 175 gr partition. ImR 4831. I won’t say how many grains. It’s the old old reloading book. Now days max load isn’t even close. But this put em 1 hole!
Really love you showing loads for the 7mm REM Mag!!!
The wording of the title caught my eye.....the rifle is built "ON" the 700 action. Can't believe how many times I see in print a rifle built "off" of a 700 or other action. Or, based "off" of a particular action. I have yet see a rifle built off of the action, usually the parts are installed "on" the action, not "off".
You got it right.
Oh, and the old 7 Rem Mag is a good round. It's the Rodney Dangerfield of rifle cartridges.....it never gets any respect.
I am glad it did we greatly appreciate you taking the time to watch and to comment. I see that quite a bit as well and there are other types of actions that take roots or design from the Remington 700 action. This is a Remington 700 action and is built upon that so I agree in full with you and your statement!
It really is a great cartridge and it is easily in my top 10 of favorites! I love the cartridge personally. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment we always appreciate the feedback! --Jeremiah
I love watching these videos since, as I’ve said in your other videos, your presentation style is easy going but to the point. I think the 7MM Rem Mag is in the top three cartridges for North America with the 30-06 and 300 WM/WSM being the others. My hunting buddies and I just had an early morning range session and I was shooting my 7MM Remington Mag, a Savage Weather Warrior that shoots 3/4” groups with 160 partitions at 2965 and 5/8” groups with 160 Accubonds at 3005 which was today’s load of choice. Hopefully a nice mulie buck will find its way into my crosshairs in November.
You certainly are a regular here at the channel and we greatly appreciate that! I agree it's a great cartridge and you really can't go wrong choosing it for hunting anything in North America. Jack O'Connor did it with the .270 Win, it certainly can be done with the 7mm Rem Mag and you get a little flatter shooting cartridge. That sounds like solid shooters to me! I wish I drew a tag this year! I am dying to get out into the woods! Best of luck to you this year and have a great hunt! As always thank you for all the support! --Jeremiah
Nice work, Jeremiah! IMR 7828 was developed specifically for 7 Rem Mag factory loads in the early 60's and, after making its public debut in about 1988, remains one of my favorite powders for the Big 7 to this day.
Thank you very much and thank you for your continued support and viewership, it is greatly appreciated. That is very true IMR 7828 was the powder used in the original loading of the 7mm Rem Mag factory ammo and it's performance is still hard to beat to this day. It is always nice to hear others experience duplicates ours thank you for sharing that! Good loading and groups to you sir. --Jeremiah
Its also great in 270 Win. I got some real scorchers pushing 150 grainers with it
Exactly what I am using in my 7rm with 145 lrx and 150 ablr, 65g with the former and 67g with the latter and they shoot in same place. My rifle is an older 60's R700 adl with a few changes.
@@John_Redcorn_ I can whole heartedly believe that, gotta love the .270 Winchester! Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@madman432000 I was really impressed with the Barnes 145 grain LRX and That would be my go to choice for a hunting bullet with this cartridge I used that same bullet to harvest my deer last year, I was using a .280 AI but very simialr ballistics. That Nosler ABLR is also a great bullet and I have loaded that up for this rifle for a friends hunt this year! it is so great to hear that others are having the same success! Thank you so much for watching and for taking the time to share that info with everyone! --Jeremiah
That rifle is a shooter, great video
It really is I was quite impressed with the accuracy with the factory barrel installed, I am sure that the bedding job McMillan did was a major contributing factor as well. Glad you enjoyed the video thank you so much for watching! -- Jeremiah
Great video. Really enjoyed and benefited listening. Really contemplated going to 7 mag but love my .280 Ackley Improved. Nice set up also. Thanks
Thank you very much for watching!! It is funny that you say that because I too contemplated going to a 7 mag but ended up going with .280 AI as well. One day I would really like to compare the .280 AI to the 7mm Rem mag. Appreciate the feedback and you taking the time to comment!! --Jeremiah
Thanks Jeremiah great over all data and demo!
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! The feedback is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
Great video!
Thank you very much for the feedback and taking the time to not only watch but comment as well we appreciate it! --Jeremiah
7mm needs a 26" barrel and 160gr bullets pushed as fast as possible. It also needs a proper cut chamber.
I personally like the 26" barrels as well and am also a big fan of the 160 grain bullets in that cartridge as well. Thank you so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. --Jeremiah
I'm using a similar setup with a 24-in barrel 1 and 9 twist Remington but I went with hodgdon 7977 powder with 150 grain acupbond LR getting a .6-in group or better just under 3100 ft per second. Very clean powder too. I didn't bump the charge weight up to Max since I was getting that good of group. I didn't figure 70 ft per second. Was going to matter that much, especially for a hunting rifle
It is hard to go wrong with the 7mm Rem Mag, it's a great cartridge and honestly this is one of my favorite rifles that I have shot. Thanks for sharing your info and experience. I agree 70 FPS is not enough to matter a whole lot. --Jeremiah
Fantastic video... Fantastic shooting. Fantastic grouping. Thanks
No problem thank you for the kind words and taking the time to comment and watch!! --Jeremiah
168g Berger VLD hunter 0.008 in the lands with 69.8g Retumbo. The target bullet at 168 just shot 3/16 at 1000y (two shot group). Boo Yeah, awesome video
Retumbo is a great powder in this cartridge so is IMR 7828 as well. That is pretty good, 1,000 yards is a long way! Thank you very much and thank you for watching! -Jeremiah
Very thorough & informative video-thanks!
You are very welcome thank you for the kind words and the feedback we greatly appreciate it -- Jeremiah
Factory barrels generally move quite a bit after they warm up. Usually after 3 shots you start to get wandering from barrel curve. That gun with a match barrel would be absolutely amazing. Keep in mind that it would be totally unnecessary for hunting, but a great comp gun.
Late to the party but first time UA-cam referenced your channel. I'm busted up pretty bad and full of shrapnel. My body doesn't care for heavy recoil but I'm looking at 7mm Remington Magnum, 7 prc, 6.5 prc and the dark horse 6.8 Western, (components and factory ammo especially in my area for the 6.8). I have owned lot's of different cartridges with the exception of those listed. I handload for .223, .243 Winchester, 6.5 needmore and .308 Win.
My thinking is maybe a trip for elk or bear sometime. I shoot the 6.5 creed and 308 to 1000 yards pretty regular and 1500 less often. If I were to make that trip I would like a little more getty-up and distance than the .308 Win. Out of those I mentioned, recoil, availability of reloading components and factory ammo in the decision, the 6.5 prc and 7mm Rem Mag with a good break or can seems to be best choice.
From a factory rifle which would be your choice? Here in the Bluegrass state the .243 is very versatile as is the 308 and 6.5 creed. So this would be a lighter weight setup most likely.
It is hard to go wrong with a 7mm Rem Mag or 7mm PRC for Elk, the 6.8 should be more than capable as well and if you have access to the components you shouldn't have a problem with that either with the right bullet at the right range. 6.5 PRC is capable as well but it would likely be last on my personal recommendations for elk of the cartridges you listed. I agree with a good muzzle brake you can get the recoil of 7mm Rem Mag down to that of a 6.5 Creedmoor. As for a rifle recommendation that is a tough one Tikka is popular, Bergara is another good choice, the Winchester Model 70 is a classic and they are slick actions these days. If I had to choose personally and not go the custom route I would probably pick a Tikka or Winchester Model 70 if money was no objection. Then I would shoot the heck out of it and know what it is truly capable of. That would be my best suggestion. Whatever you pick practice with it, know your cone of fire and maximum effective range with a little margin for error added in. If you are really concerned about weight of the rifle the Howa Carbon Elevate may be a great option with a large brake added to offset the added recoil from a light rifle or a really good suppressor but it sill won't be quite as effective as a brake. Great question thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
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Thank you for the answers. I'm leaning hard 7 Remington Magnum. I've owned heavier 300 Win Mag but kinda was wondering on that 6.5 prc with a heavy out handload. Think the 7 Remington Magnum is my go to.
Thanks again
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I just discovered your channel via YT suggesting your channel that never surfaced on a reloading search. The ballistics numbers are outstanding for this caliber. I will search your videos for my preferred high performance caliber … .340 Weatherby Magnum. I would have cautious belief the process is the same for the 340; but with different specs from a good reloading book. Very interested in reloading but have never started. Therefore, I enjoy the videos greatly. Very good video presentation.
That is great, we are glad that you found us, that is our biggest challenge is spreading the word that we are here! I can't complain though we have a great group of subscribers and are happy to have you join! Indeed I was very impressed with it's performance overall! We have yet to cover the .340 Weatherby magnum sadly! I do plan on covering it at some point but I do not currently have one so that will be in the distant future. If you have the same dies though the reloading process would be very similar for sure if you have any questions about it feel free to ask, we are always happy to help! If you are new to reloading I would suggest watching out how to video or even checking out some of the other videos to see how we developed loads for those. The technique does not change much but this one was using a much more complicated die set than what you need to get started. Glad to hear that you enjoy our videos! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment it is always great to hear from the viewer! --Jeremiah
rem 700 true flight barrel NZ Barnes 150 hollow point 64grn H4831SC 3 shot group 100mtrs one keyhole Hornady cases Winchester mag primers. Never had any gun shot like this one.
That sounds like a great load thank you for sharing that I feel it adds a lot of value to the comments section for those looking for others loads and experience with a given cartridge or rifle. --Jeremiah
I also have a Remington and it loves loads up on the hot side. H1000 powder. Same scope. 150 to 162 grain bullets. I also found the same as you. 665 yards in Montana winter. 150 grain federal fusion bullet. 5 out of 5 shots on a metal plate 14" high by 8" wide. Got a group of 5 shots less than a 4" spread. I couldn't believe it. 162 grain bt hornadys also did amazing with just over a 4" spread on 5 shots. 665 yards. No muzzle break but I didn't have an issue with recoil until we got up to the heavier bullets but my rifle doesn't like them.
This rifle was the same way it liked hot loads, almost all of the loads we tested performed best at or near max. We actually took the best load from this video and our 28 Nosler load development video and we shot them out to 600 Yards on steel and I was quite impressed with the results the rifle is quite capable and the loads performed well even at distance. I don't think recoil on the 7mm Rem Mag is that bad but the brake is nice when shooting hundreds of rounds in 1 day. But they are quite loud when used in the field! --Jeremiah
160gr Nosler Partiton and a good snort of IMR 7828. The ultimate 7mm load for anything in North America.
The Nosler Partition has been a long time go to bullet of mine I absolutely love it! As far as IMR-7828 goes it's hard to beat in the 7MM Rem Mag. Thank you for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts it's always nice to hear what others think! --Jeremiah
I hAVE 7 BAR 1966 140gr n0sler partion .80 at 100 yds. to many deer & antelope also 3 elk at 375-410yds. Browning replaced the bolt in1998 because I had a fire ring around the firing pin.the gun still worked but I didn't like the look..they also did a winter job on it. it runs like a Singer sewing machine. GERAT VIDEO
Should get 3100-3200fps with that load should be great for any game even way out there.
Great video, and subbed....I love my 7 rem mag. I recently put a shaw barrel on it, and boy is it fast, and will eat anything I throw in it. RL23 and 180s are a gem...right above 3k fps.
Thank you very much for watching and subscribing we greatly appreciate it! I am a big fan of the 7MM Remington magnum as well. Your rifle sounds like a nice setup Shaw makes nice barrels! It is impressive what you can do with this cartridge. Thanks again for your support!
Enjoyed the video. Thank you.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching and for the kind word!
Increíble video, dudo si comprarme un 7 mm y me acaba de enamorar ....que precisión , da la sensación de poco retroceso aunque todo el mundo dice lo contrario....maravilloso vídeo, tirador y arma.
Enhorabuena
¡Muchas gracias por tomarse el tiempo de ver y comentar el video! ¡Nosotros realmente lo apreciamos! --Jeremiah
i have done a 3 shot group at 100 m. with ELD- X 162 GN. 6 MM Sako Finlight 7mm Rem Mag
All good stuff thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
I envy your groups with the Trophy Bonded bullet. My attempts with the original bear claw bullet never did provide that level of precision. However, I find Jack Carter's design to be so appealing that I will gladly take 1.5"groups and let the bullet do the rest. My personal shooting restrictions keep my shots inside 400 yards so I find that level of accuracy acceptable. These trade offs make for good campfire banter, I think.
Ah yes the good ol Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, I do believe I have a few of those still laying around somewhere on a back shelf. I must admit these Trophy bonded bullets were much easier to work up a load for than the original Bear Claw. I can completely understand that and I completely agree with that and can appreciate your attitude towards hunting and accuracy. I personally have yet to take an animal at more than 250 yards, and I have plenty of blown stalks to prove it! I will be the first to tell you that people get too hung up on group size and ES and SD etc. I am a firm believer in practice and shoot at the maximum effective distance you are going to shoot at game, "A mans gotta know his limitations" is a quote I think sums it up nicely. I think my long winded reply proves your point about campfire banter! Thanks so much for watching and commenting it is always nice to hear what others have to say. Shoot straight and good handloading! -- Jeremiah
Nice Dirty Harry quotation :)
@@14goldmedals Thank you very much and thank you for watching and commenting! --Jeremiah
Very good and informative video. A similar video on a 25-06 would be awesome to see.
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching. I would love to do a video on the 25-06 at some point, the suggestions are always appreciated and they really do help us sort out what to do next! --Jeremiah
Great Video!! The only nock is that I think a belted magnum deserves at least a 26" barrel. I'm not worried about the extra lil' bit of weight. Performance is a bit more important to me. 30-06 or .308 is better suited for a 24" barrel. If you're worried about getting stuck on a branch with a little longer barrel, your not slung right, and if you're hunting game in thick brush, use a 20" 308. Too close to worry about velocity at such a short distance with the right bullet construction
I personally prefer a 26 inch barrel for hunting purposes as well, I don't find it to be that cumbersome or add a significant amount of weight compared to a 22 inch barrel. In regards to the barrel length on this rifle I accidently stated it was 24 inches but if you check the video description there stating that was a mistake and the actual barrel length was 26" we apologize for this inconvenience. It was something we should have caught in post production and failed to do so! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Outstanding. Very happy with my 7mm RemMags. Retumbo, H1000, IMR4831, IMR4350 & IMR4451 have given excellent accuracy. Thank you.
Glad to hear you liked the video the feedback is always appreciated! I agree in full with you I actually tested a lot of those listed powders for this video and got pretty good results with them as well. Thanks for sharing and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Just stuffed some 175 Hornadys with IMR4350 for elk in my M77 7mag. They're doing well.
Nice video
Sounds like good stuff to me, best of luck in your hunting adventures! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
I will start with the fact that a magnum shows very little deviation in group size at 100m. You must do group at 200m to accurately show group sizes.
Depending on the temperature at the time of shooting, generally you cannot shoot more than two or three rounds without letting the barrel cool.
Evan
New Zealand
I have heard that stated and I think that there is some truth to that to a degree but I don't think it invalidates testing conducted at 100 Yards in any way. A bad load at 100 yards is going be a bad load at 200 Yards. We do perform extensive testing to validate these loads before we show them off. I would encourage you to watch out 7mm Rem mag Vs. 28 Nosler video and see the best load we worked up here at 100 yards and see it shoot out to 600 yards in the same rifle. I will paste the link at the end of this comment. You can see that the best load does indeed perform very well with an impressive group at 600 yards.
As far as the barrel heat goes that is true but it is also a good way to measure a barrels quality. We generally shoot 5 shots and let the barrel cool in between 5 shot groups keeping all things equal that way. I have had some barrels that will throw shots after 3 round you can see this when we shoot the 145 grain Barnes LRX I am sure barrel heat was a major factor in opening up that group size. That said the group was still not that bad. We strive to provide unbiased practical testing that is as comparable as possible from rifle to rifle. At any rate I want to personally thank you for taking the time to comment and watch the video we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah
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Yep. I have found this out also. Have had loads group good at 100 yards and go to crap beyond that. So we do everything at 200 yards then go out to 665 yards.
@@jackvaniciaadams4089 I have seen that as well in some cases however we do verify our loads at distance usually 400 yards. We do quite a bit of testing before we showcase our results. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
fire form 7 weatherby brass in the 7 rem mag pick up 4 grains case capacity 180 bergers 3150 fps and 162 eld m 3300 fps out of a browning xbolt with retumbo on both lab radar and magneto speed chrono
Around 1982 I bought a Big grocery bag full of 7 mm Weatherby Mag empties for $ 20.
I still have not got to the bottom of that bag !!!
I can't beat those 175 elite hunters.
It really is a great bullet and it simply performs well. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
very good info! well done..
I get my load data at 300 yards. It seams to tell a lot.Thanks for sharing.
A lot of people like to do load development at extended ranges 200 yards and further. I don't see any problem with that but I also like shooting at 100 because it is a nice baseline for the variety of cartridges we shoot here on the channel along with the fact that wind and other conditions are significantly less of a factor. Generally speaking a bad load at 100 is a bad load at 300 yards as well. I would encourage you to check out our latest video on the 7mm Rem mag Vs. the 28 Nosler we take the best load from this video and the 28 Nosler load development video and shoot them both on steel and compare ballistics. I will paste a link at the end of this comment. I also want to personally thank you for taking the time to watch and comment we greatly appreciate all the support! --Jeremiah
ua-cam.com/video/Sg9XXUZnlCk/v-deo.html 7mm rem mag vs. 28 Nosler video
@@HandloaderTV You got my mind thinking. What I mean is, when I do my load development at 300 yards ( I use a Veridical test/ladder test ) to find out what powder and what powder charge my rifle likes best, I then go back to 100 yards and mess with seating depth and zero my rifle there as well. If you set a target out to say 300 yards. When I got my load data on my 260 Rem for instance. I used 140 grain Bullets. So I loaded as follows, 39.0, 39.5, grains, 40.0, 40.5, 41.0, 41.5, 42.0, 42.5, 43.0, 43.5, 44.0. I went up by half grain increments. So what I noticed at 300 yards was that 39.0 - 41.0 grains of powder hit low. 43.0 - 44.0 grains of powder hit high. Now my between my 41.5- 42.5 grains of powder the impacts were all most touching. So what that means is I found my node. I then loaded up 5 rounds each of 41.5, 42.0, 42.5. I then shot a 5 shot group of each at 100 yards and the 42.5 grains had the tightest group. So then I started messing with my seating depth. Now not only am I getting hole in hole at 100 yards, my rifle can hold under a 1” group at 700 yards. Not 1 MOA. I’m talking a straight up 1” 3 shot group at 700 yards. I do this with all my rifles. My 7 Mag Sendero with 168 grain Berger’s using this method can hold a 1 1/2 “ 3 shot group at 700 yards. That is all factory rifle, untrued action. Just how it came from Remington. Try a ladder test, it will make a Hugh difference.
@@stgraves260 That is really good to hear! That is what we are all about is getting folks thinking and providing as much information as we can in each of our videos! I personally think there are multiple way to find a good node and there really isn't a right or wrong way so long as you do find that node. There are a lot of incorrect way to find a node. I think most notable in that failure is the 10 Shot load development, based on personal experience there is no way 10 shots is enough to provide any statistical significance. Your method sounds very good and is fairly similar to what I do with my own load development but mine but I typically test at 100 yards again just to reduce the variables of wind and other things from day to day when we are filming. However as interest in this channel increases and we get more people viewing I would love to do an in depth video on various load development methods, the ones that work and the ones that don't. Perhaps at some point I can give your load development a try and do a video on that! You have got me thinking now!! I love it!! Thank you for sharing that with us and the other viewers! --Jeremiah
Great job Jeremiah ! Here ( France) it's not easy to findAmerican powders , we use finland ( Vihtavuori) powder , swedish ( Norma) powder ans swiss ( RS ) powder ans French powder ! I shoot the 7 Remington magnum ! He's great calibre ! I have a 7 weatherby magnum and I love too this ammo ! When you show us a vidéo on the 7 weatherby magnum ? Thank you so much !
Thank you so much for the kind words, we greatly appreciate it! Vihtavuori powders are great and I am very thankful to have them stateside as well, I also like Norma as well but I have sadly not seen much Norma powder in the US for a while. I have the least experience with RS powder but would love to try it all! It really is a great cartridge and it has thoroughly impressed me over the years. I can't say for sure when we would do a video on the 7mm Weatherby magnum, I do not currently have a rifle chambered in that cartridge. Hopefully one day I will find one and we'll be able to do a video on it! Thank you so much for watching! --Jeremiah
Anecdote, vs Antidote.
That is correct I misspoke and I missed that in the review process, these videos are unscripted and every now and then a little something slips through. Thank you for watching and good catch on that!
I do enjoy your presentations. Keep em comming.
@@vincentw4881 Thank you very much I greatly appreciate that! We do our best to provide as much information in an easily watched video. We will certainly be making many more. We have a ton of content coming up with Mike Venturino and World War II small arms. so keep an eye out for that it'll be a little different from our normal cartridge videos but should be a lot of fun to watch. Thanks you again for the support! -- Jeremiah
Oh nice! I love milserp rifles and have several. Styre m95, 1891 Argentine, 1896 Swedish, and a 24/47. Cant wait.
@@vincentw4881 That is really cool sounds like these will be right up your alley then! I have personally always been interested in World War II surplus but I have recently began expanding to other eras as well. It is a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy the coming series!
I'm in the process now of working up a load for my bergera hmr wilderness in 7mm mag ,hoping on the new load of 175gr eldx with h1000 will give e me what I'm looking for ,high bc bullet with a hotter load hopefully will stabilize from my 1, 9.5 twist barrel. ,, very good video ,subbed to your channel.
I have almost always found good accuracy with H-1000 powder I think you will have good luck in the accuracy area velocity should be pretty good but Retumbo seems to yield higher velocities than H-1000 but I know Retumbo is almost impossible to find these days. To be honest even we are having trouble getting our hands on it! I wish you best of luck in your load development! I also want to personally thank you for subscribing and taking the time to watch and comment we really appreciate it and it greatly helps us grow and share our experience and knowledge with others! --Jeremiah
I use a 215 Fed primer in most of my rifle load's.
Anecdote my guy
Indeed I caught that in the post production review but it wasn't worth re-film the whole intro just to fix that. I do mix up my words from time to time and you can see that from time to time. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Try 150 grain ballistic tip Nosler with 63 grains of that 4350. if and when you can get your hands on any.
I am a huge fan of the Nosler ballistic tips but as of lately they sure are hard to find! I am hoping things settle down soon! It is really restricting us in what we can do and has certainly put the hold on a lot of different projects. Thanks for watching and for sharing your load with us it is greatly appreciated!! --Jeremiah
Jeremiah you have scored another home run with this video, no doubt it. The 7RM is so much for to handload for , me being a target shooter the 160/162 Gr BTSP’s or the 168 Gr HPBT from Sierra are more to my liking. For powders I stick with the original powder IMR-7828. That break on your rifle really controlled muzzle climb and recoil, can you give me more information on it please ?
Thank you very much for the kind words and continued support! Indeed there is a great deal of options when it comes to loading for the 7mm Rem Mag. I think those are good bullet choices and it's very hard to go wrong with IMR-7828 it is a great powder in the 7mm Rem mag! Indeed I was quite impressed with that brake as well! It works amazingly well. It is a Holland RB2 Radial Baffle muzzle brake and is available in many different thread pitches directly from Holland's Shooters supply! I hope that helps and if you need any further information don't hesitate to ask! --Jeremiah
i see you are doing as well and there is a little wind
Thanks for the kind words, the lack of wind is always nice I wish all testing could be conducted without wind but sadly that is not the case. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
I have a reminton 700 long range Shoots one hole groups at any range With my hand loads just neck sized cases
The Remington 700 is a great action and it's hard to go wrong when you are rolling you own ammunition. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
I have 4 model 700 remingtons 204 220 swift 7mm rem mag 338 lapua all very accurat! Dennis is my name
@@wilmamcdermott3065 It is hard to go wrong with a Remington 700 my most accurate rifle is built on a Remington 700 action. Thanks for sharing! --Jeremiah
I wonder how hornady 139 grain does
I have a feeling it would perform well through this rifle, I was very impressed with the results we got and overall I think this rifle shoots well and does not seem to be picky at all. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Do you think a howa 1500 with a 1-9.5 twist will stabilize factory loaded 175gr soft points? I don't handload unfortunately, and want to run heavy bullets.
Great question, I think with that twist rate you should be able to stabilize 175 grain soft points no problem, of course the only way to be sure is to buy a box and try it and see what happens. I have a 1:14 twist 22-250 that stabilizes 62 grain bullets that it shouldn't and I have a 260 Remington that doesn't stabilize bullets that it should. My best guess is that it should work though. Thank you for watching and commenting! --Jeremiah
@HandloaderTV thanks for the response. I have since found a ruger hawkeye hunter. They come from the factory with a 1-8.5 twist. I think that will be perfect for the heavy bullets.
@@TonyTheFlatlander Indeed that does sound like a perfect fit for what you are looking for! Glad to hear you found something! --Jeremiah
Try tuning you ammo with the EC TUNER muzzle brake by ERIC CORTINA. ...you won't be disappointed. ..
I have seen those EC Tuner Brakes he's making, I have heard a lot of good things about them. I would like to give them a try eventually. I also think that the same level of tuning can be achieved by adjusting your seating depth but I need to confirm that to be sure.
Would coal length in any of these loads be safe in most factory rifles, thank you great video
This rifle has a SAAMI chamber so long as you are not jamming the bullets into your lands you should be fine with all of the COAL listed in this video. If the bolt has any resistance from the bullet jamming into the lands I would back it off .015" at a time until it doesn't jam into the lands. Great question thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Very light charges? Nothing near Max?
Some nice shooting, but surprised at the OAL variances and choices made.
I use a 154 SST bullet with RL17 for my deer hunting load. I will probably use a nosler or barnes a little heavier for an elk load. I have an old Browning Gold Medallion A-bolt that shoots very well. The chamber is really tight as when my friends are shooting none of their fired brass cases will fit in my chamber. I have had the action cerakoted and will probably have it placed in an upgraded stock at some point soon. Just not sure what stock I want just yet. It would be nice to have an adjustable cheek rest tho.
Thanks for sharing your load with us that is greatly appreciated! I hope the comments is a place where folks can go to learn and hear about others experience with a given cartridge or load so it is always nice when others share their loads and info! I really like Barnes bullets for hunting and also am a big fan of the Nosler partition and accubond bullets as well. That sounds like a very nice rifle, I was a big fan of the McMillan stock on this rifle, I do know the adjustable cheek rest was done by another company but they did a great job. Might be something worth looking into! Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV that is great info. I think I got lucky with the action and happened to get the one pulled for quality control 😁 it does deserve a better stock. I will look into the McMillan thanks!
@@littlefinkle7757 That is awesome there are some rifles that are just plain shooters, those rifles seem few and far between those days so cherish it! I think they are pretty nice but there are lots of other great stocks out there I am sure you'll find something worthy! --Jeremiah
Great video just bought a Remington 700 in 7mm Remington magnum can’t wait to hand load it .sorry if I missed it but what is the yardage you are shooting at thanks
Surprised you don't allow the barrel to cool during a string. 7mag generates a lot of heat in a barrel quickly. Could contribute to your results
We do let the barrel cool between 5 shot strings but we like to show if heat is effecting the group size as well. It can be a good judge of how well the barrel was heat treated and stress relieved during the manufacturing process. You can watch for yourself and see I am sure many group sizes would be smaller if we did let the barrel cool but then that wouldn't be a very good measure of the quality of the barrel or how profile can effect your results. In addition to that it would be very time consuming to let the barrel cool after a shot or two, on average our range sessions for videos are about 12 hours long for rifle and consist of shooting hundreds of rounds numerous different loads, sadly we have to cut most of those for the video but all results are available to view on our load data website. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Letting your brass roll off the table into the rocks isn't the best for reloading those later. It would have been interesting to have another shooter do the same loads and see the overall performance. Every rifle has a specific recipe for bullet reloading and there is a lot more than powder and measurement of such. When one switches bullets, this opens up a whole load of specifics that has to be accomodated. Max charge doesn't mean most accurate.
If the 3 feet drop from the table to dirt and rocks is effecting my accuracy I shudder at what the UPS guy does to it when he chucks the package onto the porch or what bouncy dirt roads do to the brass while packed loose in bags. I highly highly doubt the drop off the table is making a difference in accuracy especially after being resized properly. It would have to be a large enough sample size to be statistically significant in order to really see a difference though. No max charge does not mean the most accurate in fact often times the opposite seems to be true in my experience. We like to test different loads, different bullets and sometimes even seating depths though. Usually what you see here in video is just a small sample of everything we tested. We do this for times sake otherwise the video would be 4 hours long. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Are a lot of you guys finding out that the reloading data for 7mm rem mag is very conservative? I’m a good bit above max for all my loads in my rifle. My other rifles in other calibers usually show me pressure signs pretty close to max.
Ballistic labs have long noted strange and unexplained pressure spikes when dealing with maximum loads in the 7mm Rem Mag. That's why the original ballistic performance of the 1960's ammo has been scaled back starting in the 1970's. The .243 Win was also discovered to produce a similar trait with max loads and 100-105 gr. bullets.
Julius James and 451 Whitworth, That is very true ballistic labs and pressure tests have shown that the 7mm Rem mag can have fairly wide velocity and pressure swings in particular from one rifle or barrel to the next. SAAMI maximum pressure is at 61,000 PSI which is up there when it comes to pressure in my opinion. However if you look at a lot of old data sources in particular the Speer reloading manuals I do believe many of them don't go over 52,000 PSI. And if I remember correctly SAAMI raised the pressure levels for the 7MM Rem mag but do not quote me on that. I do know some of the older data was pretty conservative. With Modern rifles loading to 61,000 PSI is not a problem. However, I will say be careful, look at the data we shot out of this rifle and compare it with others in particular the Barnes load data and you will see that we hit pressure well below the max charge weight but the velocity was already at or near max. This is a good example of the velocity variation from rifle to rifle. Thank you both for watching and starting a very interesting conversation. I love how others can learn and share experiences here in the comments. Thanks again and good shooting to both of you!
I'm remembering my older Speer manual showing the 52,000 max as 52,000 C.U.P. (Copper Units of Pressure). Many older manuals jumped between P.S.I. and C.U.P. kind of randomly so you had to read things carefully. How do I know? Because I'm old lol and been in the handloading game since about 1984.
My 7mag is pretty hot, 168 Berger with 73.6gr of H1000. My average velocity is 3200fps on the Lab Radar with a Standard Deviation of 5.5. 74gr of H1000 is where pressure signs started.
Brett R that’s a good smokin’ load alright and I’d feel safe with it in my Browning A-Bolt. I’m sure the recoil takes a jump compared to a 160-165 grain factory load! But mine is a hunting rifle seeing fewer rounds. For a target rifle I’d dial it back to save the wear. I don’t have H1000 but plenty of Reloader25 and Retumbo and Reloader22. Whatever fills the case the most usually ends up being the more accurate.
I have a couple questions, why not use a bore chiller between shots to try and get best accuracy, since in hunting most shots are cold bore, also are you going to take each load and play with powder and jump to dial it in? I have been reloading since late 80s and personally love 7mm
Those are both great questions and I am very glad you asked! I do not use a bore chiller for a couple of reasons, #1 I don't have one currently, #2 it's nice to know what the rifle barrel is going to do as it gets hot and we did see some of that with the loads we shot using the Barnes LRX the first 3 shots go into one hole and the next two open up the group a bit. I think it gives you a better idea of the quality of the barrel and what it's going to do when hot. That said though for hunting I absolutely check my cold bore shots to see if the rifle is going to put that cold bore shot in a different area. I have found with most quality barrels there is little or no point of impact shift from the cold bore to the 5th shot.
In regards to your second question we actually do adjust powder charges and seating depths this is roughly stated at 21:10 in the video where you can actually go on to our load data website and see all the different loads that we tried through this rifle. Generally speaking we do 5 different powder charges per bullet and then 5 different seating depth tests as well and then we settle on the seating depth that performed the best for us. I hope that all makes sense great questions and thank you so much for watching and commenting! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I will rewatch and look for it, I agree in quality barrels cold doesn't move near as much. I give up on competitive shooting in early 90s, so it's not as important for me on barrel heat up. I do 3 shot groups with powder and 3 with jump, I have gotten lax over the years, probably should go back to 5.
I think what your doing is awesome and educational, seems reloading is making a big come back, so keep up the great work. God bless
How should I start off with this comment? Ok, to begin, you have to read my long diatirbe if you want to categorize it as such.I am now at the ripe old age of 81,(age 15 was my first introduction to a mans' world of hunting. Killed my first deer in NEPA with a 30 WCF..1 shot kill) still shooting, rifle, pistol competition. I manage to hold my own. That said, the video has it's high points and has some impressive results. Oh, I own, and shoot a 454 Casull. So I am not adverse to brute force and horsepower. Nuf of the personality stuff.
Not to disparage the video or the fellow doing the video...far be it for me to do that.
to get to my point. My first introduction to "big game" was in 1980. A friend invited me to a hunt in Montana, an elk hunt. I jumped at the opportunity. What shall I bring, I said? I listed what I had to shoot to him...all ok ,but do you have or can you get a 7MM? I answered no, but should I get one? He replied, if you can borrow one, or afford to buy one, get one, cause that's the caliber of choice. I went to our local dept store. (at that time, you could walk into a Walmart;Two-guys;GovMutual) store) Not being a "big time" hunter", I had a choice of buying a .270 or a 7MM for the same price at the whopping figure of $150 each! I should have bought them both! But, I chose the 7MM due to monetary restraints. I purchased the Ruger 77 in 7MM.
To make a very long short shorter than you care to read, I used to...still do, participated in long-range competition to a lesser degree.
Getting to my point. I equipped my 7 with a Redfield BDL accu-tac scope 3x9. I handloaded and shot the 7MM out TO 500 METERS. Getting the results I felt comfortable with, I flew up to Montana.
Cutting to the chase, we hiked for several days whiteout success. On my last othe next day, e spotted a "brushhead"..Montana verbiage for a small bull. Having no other choice come back to SoCal empty-handed, I shot....missed! He said, my friend, said he's about 450 yds. I adjusted my scope.( missed calculated the yardage...18 in vs 30 in in the scope). I raised the elevation to max which was 650 yds. As the bull was walking uphill, I kept raising above and aimed above the antlers. "One shot kill below the shoulder bones"!!!
The moral of the story? Luck, perhaps. Bullet placement. Perhaps. Ability. Perhaps. In the final analysis, I did it. My first elk hunt and killed my first big-game animal.
I'll tell you this. Hiking the mountains of Montana is no easy chore.
You all ask, ok, ok, wondering what load you were using? To answer that with some sort of timeline. I was an armature reloader. I stated off making cast lead bullets. circa 1970. I progressed to rifle. I did not know anything about ballistics...bullet drop; VDL. I just shot to enjoy shooting n hunting. I was told....Sierra Bullets are what you want to shoot.
Ok, I know I am getting long- in -the tooth so to speak, Here it is my load: Sierra seconds, not a misprint. Sierra 2nds: 160 gr SP. 68.0 grains IMR 4350, CCIM primer. The 7MM cam kill at most distance with any kind of bullet if hit in the vital area.
What else can I say? I have the friend to verify my statements. ENOUGH ALREADY1 I've already expressed my thoughts and feelings on another 7MM post.
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I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and stories, I really think that is what the comment are all about it is most enjoyable to hear from others and what they think of the cartridge their hunts and personal experience with the cartridge. I also appreciate you taking the time to share such detailed experiences I think we can all relate to many of the aspects you described in your encounters. I also appreciate you sharing your load data I think it is always interesting to know what others are loading in a particular cartridge. Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment!
There is certainly no argument here that the 7mm Rem mag can kill and it is a good cartridge. --Jeremiah
Thanks for the great video. Was impressed with the 162 gr Hornady group. What jumps to the lands for that bullet?
No problem thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! If memory serves me correctly that bullet was jumping about .040" to the lands. All in all I was impressed with the performance of the rifle. --Jeremiah
It's kinda funny that 7mm rem mag with a 24 inch barrel is very close to a PRC with a 30 inch barrel in your other video. I thought the PRC didn't need a long barrel to perform Just goes to show the 7 PRC is all hype.
What do you mean by "vortex rings, also made by seekings"?
Any plans for a video on 7mm-300 win mag or 7mm practical
There has been some talk about it and some thoughts but no plans at this time. If we get enough requests than it is certainly a possibility. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Did I hear him say the COL was 2.850?My new book says 3.290
I don't believe I stated that as the maximum COAL but that was the COAL for one of the loads we tried. We test a variety of seating depths when we are working up loads for a given rifle and sometimes they are shorter and longer than what a loading manual may state. Thank you so much for watching and for the question. We are always happy to answer any questions! --Jeremiah
I really like how you built that rifle and your results. Great video
Thank you very much but I can not take the credit for building that rifle that belongs to another man. I am glad you enjoyed the video Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
2 questions…. How much does it weight? And why did you use up 1/4 - 1/3 of the barrel life just putting holes in paper? That looked a whole lot like a benchrest approach for a hunting rifle. You did a fine job just seemed too tedious. I get it, accuracy/ precision check check..
Where are you getting the powder, I sure can't find any a the suppliers luckily I do have some of these powders but no Retumbo or H-1000 or Reloader 22 I loaded some with IMR 4350 and H4831SC and IMR 7828 I was lucky to get some 215M primers the brass I have says Weatherby but they are Norma
So that is a two fold answer we are working on a big stockpile we had and are limiting ourselves to conserve as much as possible which is also why we are not producing as many videos as we like. As of lately we have been able to source limited quantities locally as well, many of our local gunshops carry reloading components and powder. Which is why we were able to add a few more powders to our testing Hodgdon powder seems to be coming in regularly however it does go quick and still no primers. It is not easy to find stuff that is for sure but I am still hopeful that things are getting better and after one dumpster fire of a year things are finally getting back on track. I know the demand is insanely high and that has more to do with it than most people think but I don't know a single Handloader that is not looking for primers or powder or something. It sounds like you should be able to duplicate many of our results should you desire, We got some pretty good groups and more on our load data website. I wish you best of luck in your powder searches and good shooting to you sir! --Jeremiah
Another excellent video! I'm a 7mm fan, but I'm not a belted magnum cartridge fan.
I'd like to see videos on the 7mm-08 Remington and/or 280 Ackley (AI) Improved cartridges which are my 2 favorite 7mm cartridges.
I use Federal 215M primers and IMR-7828 in my 280 AI and Hornady 154 grain Interlock bullets with excellent accuracy. My rifle is a bone stock Savage 110 Hunter with a 22 inch barrel, DNZ Hunt Master low base/rings and Leupold VX-II 3-9x40mm scope.
Thank you for the kind words and the feedback it is greatly appreciated! I too am not a big fan of belted magnums either. While I had great success with the 7mm Rem mag the belt can certainly be a point of contention to the handloader. A primary reason for my enthusiasm over the 28 Nosler.
I do plan on doing videos on both the 7mm-08 and the .280 AI both would be full load development videos so keep an eye out for those. I think the .280 AI will be first I am just piecing together components which these days is not easy as I am sure you are aware!
I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge and experience as well I think that is what the comments section is all about! Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Enjoyed the Vid! Where can we find info regarding your portable Shooting Bench?
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video! Thank you so much for watching! The bench we used in this video is the Stukey's Sturdy Shooting bench. If you google that it should come up with his website. Royal is the guys name and he makes a quality product. I highly recommend these benches they are well built and if you take care of it they last a really long time! --Jeremiah
The secret service snipers use 7RM in 40XB rifles.
I'd like to know what their ammo is.
I actually did not know that, I find that very interesting but it also makes sense given their training and methodology for engaging targets. I actually know a man who helped train the secret service counter snipers I may be able to find that out if you are very curious. I should be meeting him at the NRA Show in Texas the end of this month. You have kinda peaked my curiosity. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV more sniper rifles are made from 700 actions than any other. And the 7RM gives long range thump. Add ap boolits, and there's not many places for cover.
@@bharnden7759 I don't doubt that one bit after all that is what the M24 was. I do really like the 7mm RM I think it is a great cartridge and has a lot of potential!
Where can I get that press stand? It looks like its bolted down to the table. I would like to get one.
Great question that is an InLine Fabrication Ultramount, it does bolt to the bench directly and the one we has the quick change base so we can easily swap between presses and tools. They are for sale directly from their website, they are our favorite mounts for presses and other tools. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV Thank You!
@@GeorgeSemel You are very welcome! --Jeremiah
Why change bullets with every load?
Need tips on reloading belted magnums... including this new fangled die that assists in case reloading life...
I think you are referring to the Belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die from Larry Willis. I have not tried that particular die. However I can say that the belt is of less concern if you are headspacing off of the shoulder just like most other cartridges. I would highly recommend bumping the shoulder .002 of an inch after the case is fully fireformed to your chamber. Great question thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV yeah...that's my problem...I pickup shiny range brass here in Texas and need to fireform after reloading in my own rig ..that's already 2 reloadings... haven't had any problems but I can see how some issues do develop...
I cant decide on 7mm rem mag or 280 ai. Atm rebarreling my tikka t3x lite 300 win mag with 150 free bore 1 in 9 twist 25 inch barrel heavy barrel will be my 500 and in elk gun using 200 grain barnes lrx using ai mags
I am a big fan of the .280 AI especially if you are planning on using a .300 win Mag for your Elk gun. Less recoil than the 7mm Rem mag and nearly as much performance. I have two .280 AI rifles and I love them both one with a 26" tube and the other with a 24" barrel. I do plan on doing a video on the cartridge itself one day hopefully soon! Honestly though it is personal preference and you are really splitting hairs between the two. Thanks for watching!! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTVI am building a 280 AI I have wanted to try my skills at it and I had bought a old Remington 721 b in a 30-06 at a pawn shop and it just won’t shoot I changed scopes and I bedded the action clean the copper all out really good still didn’t shoot so I took it to a friend house that had a bore scope and it told me what I needed to know the chamber wasn’t cut straight to the bore so I ordered a pre threaded crown and short chambered barrel from Shilens and it is got a 1-8 twist and 26” long now I am waiting on my finish reamer and the go no go gauge I am excited about doing it I hope that it will shoot good when I get done
A really great video. 20 years ago I reloaded with a Lee loader press. I haven’t reloaded since but I want to. I inherited a rcbs auto, but I don’t feel comfortable with it. Your video was over my head and skills, but that is where I would like to be. I do have a 7mm that I have only shot factory loads and it hasn’t grouped well yet. I hope to find a load that this gun will like. I have been able to pick up powders and some primers. I think I have some nosler and some Barnes bullets. But not sure where to start. I think my first task would to just load a box of shells to get comfortable with my dies and the press.
Any suggestions?
Thank you for the kind words, they are always appreciated. I am assuming that the RCBS Pro 2000 or a similar progressive press. There are a lot to progressive presses and I highly suggest doing a lot of research before attempting to load on a progressive and just understand the basic function and what each station does and how to set it up properly and double and triple check your work before shooting any of the loaded ammo to ensure it will be safe and function well. That said I do like progressive presses and I use A dillon press for most of my bulk case prep and I use it to load multiple cartridges as well. We have a handloading 101 video as well I will paste a link below at the end of this comment and you can check that out as well. We are using a single stage press but the concept is the same and there is a lot of good info in the video. The progressive presses just do all these steps with each pull of the handle. I suggest finding some good data and starting with the "start" charge or minimum charge and working your way up in .5 grain increments close to max. Then go out and test them and see what kind of groups you can get. If you have any questions don't hesitate to reach out. If you really want to learn more I highly suggest picking up the magazine as well. The basics you can learn from online research but there is a lot more covered in our magazine about crimp neck tension and so on and so fourth. You certainly want to be comfortable with the process and ensure you know enough to not get yourself into trouble before you start loading. Once you get it figured out though it will become second nature to you. --Jeremiah
ua-cam.com/video/tQ6agaXw0tA/v-deo.html Handloading 101 video.
That muzzle break is awesome.
Can you send me a link wear to get one???
Unfortunaetly I don't have a link I can send, UA-cam frowns upon links related to firearms to my understanding but if you just google Holland muzzle brakes their website will come up. The one we used here is the Holland's Radial Baffle and Quick Discharge Muzzle Brake. It is awesome and it works very very well! One of the best brakes I have used for magnum rifles.
Do you shoot 7mm o8 have you got one for load data for it?
NEXT TIME --> please show the reloading die over your bench. Not blocked by the press.
Thank you
I must admit that was my bad, I watched the video in the editing process and it about made me sick! I can't believe that I didn't put it in front of the press! It is certainly something I will be more careful of in the future. Thankfully you could still see most everything I was talking about but sadly we did not have time to redo that particular scene. Thank you for watching and please accept my apologies! --Jeremiah
My 7rm won’t group bullets above 150gr (factory loads). If I want to shoot a heavier bullet would reloading my own be necessary or does the gun just not like heavy bullets?
It depends to be honest, that is a great question it very well could be that it just doesn't like that particular factory load if it does it with multiple I would suggest measuring your twist rate. This can easily be done with a cleaning rod and a tightly fitting patch, the cleaning rod must be marked and you measure one revolution of the cleaning rod and measure how many inches it took for that single revolution. There are details on how to do this on the internet and it's a relatively simple process. Generally speaking 7mm Rem mag rifles will be 1:10 twist or faster. Which should stabilize heavier bullets without an issue at least up to 175ish grains. Handloading certainly opens up your options when it comes to bullets and it will improve your consistency and accuracy as well. Great question thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I have a Howa 1500, the specs say 1:9.5”. The 162 eldx and 175 core-lokt would not group. I only hunt cow elk and mule deer so the heavier bullets aren’t really necessary. I was just curious. I’ve read where other fellas with the same rifle get great results with heavy bullets.
@@gregdenton5282 Hmmm, that should have no problem stabilizing either of those bullets with that twist rate. I would say try a few different brands of ammunition otherwise you may have to handload in order to get those bullets to shoot good. Howa generally makes good rifles and I have had great success with them over the years. I have a 6.5 Grendel that I am working on right now for a load development video. Generally speaking Hornady makes good ammo as well I'm surprised you couldn't get a good group out of the gun with that ammo but every gun is different and handloading certainly showcases that. Best of luck to you in your adventures! --Jeremiah
Yes les bowman invented the cartridge not Remington 7mm magnum . Remington was scared to buy them rights . Because fear of the death of the 280 ... we can all see what happened..
indeed, It really did put the .280 on the sidelines for sure, I still like the .280 but the 7mm Rem mag is hard to beat! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I love all the cartridges
@@StewartCountyBallistics Me too!! --Jeremiah
Question, was this a “brand “ new rifle. In your comments you stated that factory ammo had been shot through the rifle. I assume you did some sort of either cleaning and/or barrel break in throughout the day or two of testing? Also, what is your standard cleaning process over a 100 or 200 shot development?
I would comment that to get your headspace in the beginning you achieved that measurement by using a fired case, presumably from Factory ammo? Was it Norma ammo? You just kind of jumped to the measurement, but didn’t necessarily explain how you got that. Again, there are new handloaders that would benefit from the small details. I currently have a subscription to handloads online, and have used it to begin my load development and want to thank you, as the info has helped me get straight to the bullet / powder combo I am looking to use, as not all books have enough data to overlap for particular bullet/powder combos, so thank you.
Great question, It is not a new rifle, It has also had some work done to it as stated in the video. lot's of factory ammo had been fired through it of various manufacturers and it had about 150ish rounds through the barrel at the time of this filming. The barrel was cleaned as usual prior to any filming and 5 fouling shots were fired before we began load development. The brass we used was brand new unfired Norma cases. We do our best to start fresh with each load development series.
As far as the measurement I am not sure what measurement you are referring to as we showed and took quite a few and detailed all of them in the handloading segment which starts at 4:40 in the video. If you are referring to OAL then I mention that in the handloading portion and I say some were loaded to book length and at 21:13 I state that we were not able to show all the loads we tested however you can find them on our Loaddata website and there you can see all the different loads we tested including the various different cartridge lengths that were tested. Perhaps moving forward we should be a little more clear on those things. I do think there are a lot of new handloaders out there that need as much information as possible. I want to personally thank you for taking the time to watch and comment the feedback is always appreciated. I also want to thank you for your continued support of what we do here with your digital subscription to the magazine. It is because of good folks like you that we are able to produce these videos as we do not get any other funding for these projects from UA-cam or any other source. We remain unbiased and provide accurate reliable data to those who are interested. So thank you! --Jeremiah
For deer try 66.5 grs of IMR 4350 BEHIND a swift 150 gr scirrocco. 3200 fps. For Elk try a 175 gr nosler partition behind 62.5 grs of IMR 4350 .2975 FPS. REM 9.1/2 M PRIMER USED BOTH LOADS. SHOOT MOA IN MY 700 BDL .Have never failed to put game down QUICK AND FOR GOOS. 1 SHOT KILLS.
Thank you for taking the time to share your load data and your information we greatly appreciate it and feel it adds a lot of value to the comments section. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Great job sir! I thought about getting the 7mm Remington Magnum for my last rifle purchase but not many are made with a barrel twist fast enough to shoot the heavy bullets. I chose the 28 Nosler and loving it. With 79.6gr of N570, the Berger 195 EOL I’m getting 3003 FPS, ES 16 FPS out of the Bergara Ridgeback with a 26” barrel 1 in 9 twist. During load development had to shoot 3 round groups because of lack of LG rifle primers. Shot only one 5 round group after choosing the powder charge and got a 0.402” group. This week is one more test with 24N41, shot 3 rounds, 85.2gr of 24N41 during the N570 testing and had great velocity but a higher ES. Both the 190gr A-Tip and the 197gr SMK also shot excellent out of the Bergara but Berger is made here in Arizona. What part of Arizona are you? I’m in Cochise county, Huachuca City area.
Thank you very much I am glad to hear that you enjoyed the video and found it informative! I am a big fan of the 28 Nosler as well and I personally own one as well. Those Bergara Ridgebacks are nice rifles. I can completely understand that we had to do the same with our 28 Nosler video due to the lack of components. Hopefully things will get better soon. That sounds like your rifle is a shooter! I wish you best of luck with your load development and with shooting good sir. I am a big fan of Berger bullets they are made in Arizona and I can appreciate that but most importantly they always seem to shoot well. We are in Arizona in Yavapai County in Prescott AZ and have been for over 50 years. Me personally a little less than that but I was born and raised here. -- Jeremiah
I think the issue with the 28 Nosler is barrel life
And recoil
@@davidedwards8940 The recoil I don’t notice at all, it doesn’t seem to kick much more than my Bergara HMR Pro in 6.5 Creedmoor However the 6.5 rifle weighs 16.5 lbs and the 28 Nosler weighs 19.4. The barrel life is something I will learn in the future although as I hear it’s not long. What I’ve been doing is not allowing the barrel to get very hot by putting a chamber chiller in the chamber for a minute or two after a couple shots. Then when it gets to warm to hold my hand on it very long I let it cool. Shooting a hot barrel supposedly wears the throat much faster. While the 28’s barrel is cooling I shoot a different rifle or handgun to maximize the range days. When this barrel is shot out I’ll put another one on, the 28 Nosler is an excellent ELR caliber, far better than the 6.5.
@@corymcleod2728 and @David Edwards I am a bit biased when it comes to recoil but I actually have a 6 lb rifle chambered in 28 Nosler and the recoil is pretty significant without the brake, with a muzzle brake I don't have any problems shooting it all day and I did for an upcoming video comparing the 28 Nosler vs. the 7mm Rem mag. Barrel heat is certainly a contributing factor to barrel wear. I think the primary problem with the 28 Nosler is throat erosion, the case holds a lot of powder and it's a very high pressure cartridge. So it does wear out a throat quicker than most other cartridges. I agree though the 28 Nosler is an excellent ELR caliber and an outstanding hunting cartridge as well. I liked the one we reviewed so much I purchased it for myself. I love getting to hear others thoughts on subjects just like this so thank you both for commenting! -- Jeremiah
The spreads say you need to add more powder. Did you even measure the case heads with a 1" micrometer to check for pressure? You are a reloader more so than a handloader.
Adding powder is not always the solution to the problem, as stated in the video many of these loads were at or near maximum charge weight and increasing the charge weight would have put us over pressure. Velocity is the most reliable way to measure/gauge pressure. Measuring case head expansion is unreliable especially if using already fired cases. Perhaps more seating depth testing would have revealed better groups but we also want to keep our comparisons from rifle to rifle fair and these are the results we got with the time we had and ammunition we normally expend during testing. We strive to provide the most accurate and reliable information possible with the results being easily duplicated by the viewer. --Jeremiah
What barrel length on you test rifle?
In the video it is stated as 24" however that is incorrect I misspoke and the actual length of the barrel is 26" check the editors note in the video description. Good question and thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
What is the make of that rifle as i am in the market for a 7mm rem mag
The action is a Remington 700 and the barrel is the factory Remington barrel as well. The stock is a McMillan that is bedded to the action and the cheek rest was cut in by another company. All in all I really like the setup and I think the bedding really makes a difference when it comes to accuracy. Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
Handloading is something from the past. Primers, bullets, cases and powders, they don't exist anymore! (Or Americans hoard tons and tons of those?????)
I would argue that there is more interest in Handloading now then ever. However, I do agree that getting components is extremely difficult these days. They are being produced however the manufacturers are simply not able to keep up with demand. Sadly we have seen this happen many times in the past. There will be shortages of ammunition and everyone rushes to handloading and making their own ammo and the amount of handloaders soars along with interest in the hobby. Due to the ammo shortage manufacturers focus on making their own ammo instead of selling components and therefore making it very difficult to handload. Eventually they catch up and components become available again but sadly we are not there yet. I keep hoping that happens soon. I am sure hoarding and resellers are a small contributing factor to the shortages as well. Add in the current supply chain issues and it makes for the worst shortage we have experienced yet. I am even having difficulties getting conventional motor oil locally!! It is just ridiculous and the shortages bring a level of difficulty to what we do but we will continue on as long as folks are interested. At any rate I apologize for the rant and I want to thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Why does every one use junkie digital calipers ? Get you a Starrett dial calipers
When I am actually loading my rounds and not simply demonstrating I use a mitutoyo digital caliper that has been double checked to ensure it is accurate. I personally find the digital caliper easier to use when using bullet or bump Comparators or I want to zero out the caliper to get .001 shoulder bump on a case I just find it easier than the dial caliper. This is just personal preference though and I have used many dial calipers in the past. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I’m a union millwright and use a lot of precision tools and for me it’s agents what I’ve been taught to use digital but that’s just me.
Man, I didn't understand any of that stuff about the dies in the beginning. I guess you can't just buy a set of 7mm dies and go to work.
We do plan on doing a handloading 102 video in the future and explain in greater detail some of the techniques used in this video to develop the loads. You certainly can buy a standard die set and go to work no problem! We were just looking to squeeze every bit of accuracy that we could from this particular rifle and this was actually the only die set I have for 7mm Rem Mag. Basically all we were doing was sizing our brass to get the best fit in our chamber and then we were setting how much we were sizing our case necks using the bushings so we controlled how much tension or grip if you will would be applied to the bullet. Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
280 बोर राईफल का काटरेज भी 7 mmका होता है
280 बोर राईफल के काटरेज मिल जाते हैं आप बना सकते हो कर दो तियार हमे ले लेगे
I think your barrel is defective seriously! Send it to me and I'll give it a once over and get it to where it needs to be. 😂
Every remi I have had shot like shit,
I have had a small handful that didn't shoot to my expectations as well but they are an easy action to work with and true up. In some cases a little bedding can go a long way I know it really helped this rifle. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Terrible camera placement
Ya lost me at Remington 700. Bye
May I ask why? I would just be curious as to why that turned you off to this particular video, I thought that the Remington 700 was a rather popular action or at least it was. Either way we appreciate your consideration and comment! --Jeremiah
@Handloader TV where to start. It's not you or your video . It's remington. Way to much to cover here. You'd be better served googling " remington issues". And even I myself had a bad experience with a brand new $ 1, 500 rifle that refused to eject. Good luck
@@patmartin4411 Ah I understand now, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to clarify that, this Remington has obviously had some work done to it and the trigger was replaced as well. They make great actions to build on but every now and then a bad one can pop up. I have had good and bad experiences with them over the years. The loads featured in this video are still good and usable in whatever rifle you have chambered in 7mm Rem mag though. Thanks again for taking the time to explain and hope to catch you in our other videos! --Jeremiah