There is a lot of debate over how big Smaug is but we can basically scale his body based on the size of his teeth. If his teeth were 18inches (45cm) long the size of a small sword then his body would be about 150ft long or 47m. This is based on the study of dinosaur teeth which by comparison are only 3 to 4 inches long.
@@Novusod hm. Although you have to add a few feet to a dragon because it has a longer neck. Plus if it's a dragon and not a wyvern, you get 2 extra limbs and some extra dimensions added because of that.
@@archanasharan5800 haha a villain who had actual fighting experience for a thousand years got defeated by a hero who barely started fighting for a few years and won just because he/she has love and friendship on his/her side. ohhh i hate plot armors.
That's the only reason any dragons die in any fantasy setting. No humanoid could ever hope to compete with a dragon, other than immensely powerful magi, but that type of magic doesn't even exist in Middle Earth. Just look at Gandalf, he's basically an old swordsman with the ability to conjure light, lol, and he's the most powerful magic user in the series.
@@jaysoniorg2950 Actually gandalf was a maiar, servants of valar and were sent to middle earth with only a fraction of their power because they were to motivate people to fight sauron instead of directly indulging with him. His Maia name was olorin .
@@jaysoniorg2950 there are lots of examples of Gandalf subtly using magic, and a good number where he is obviously using magical commands and divination. And you can't forget the Sarumon scene where he demonstrates his ability to lift people up and toss them like a rock.
@@gaia9020 great comment man, THE DIFFICULTY OF CREATING SUCH A MOVIE SCENE WOULD PROVE TOO MUCH I THINK...TAKE PACIFIC RIM MOVIE OR GODZILLA AND MAKIN HIM 10 TIMES AS BIG....QUITE A CHALLENGE ID SAY....LOL . ITS LIKE SMAUG TURNS INTO BILBO-MODE , EXPLAINING HIMSELF BEFORE ANCALAGON....LOL
I like Dragons very much especially the ones that can talk, think and have tremendous strengths with magical abilities. I like Smaug but I didn't realize there were more and the only ones beside the golden wyrm were Glaurung and Ancalagon. They need voice actors and personalities in future movies.
@@paulangelopineda2534 I did but they are always stuck in different alignments with 2 Gods, The Metallics are being Good and the Chromatics are being Evil
Four of the seven dwarf rings were either swallowed by dragons or melted by dragon fire. Also in the world of Middle Earth, dragon fire could melt the one ring. but I doubt finding a dragon and asking him nicely if he'd melt the ring would have gone over well, so mount doom it is.
@@xenxander This is incorrect. Dragon Fire could destroy the Rings of Power (the Dwarven Rings were destroyed that way), but not the One Ring crafted by Sauron. Neither the fire of Ancalagon or any other great dragon was ever hot enough to melt it. Only the fires of Mt. Doom could destroy the Ring of Sauron.
I'm a dragon lover. Literally clicked on the video because I wanted more Ancalagon. Was disappointed that he was just barely mentioned as part of a group.
Glaurung was huge but it was his intelligence that made him far worse then the other dragons. He put a spell on Turin & his Sister so they would not know each other as siblings. When the two met they fell in love. Turin was able to kill Glaurung but even as he died he still won as his spell was undone and the two memories returned. They both died by their own hand , one by shame and the other by grief. Glaurung had many victories over the elves and humans during its life. I doubt any other dragon did as much damage to a culture as Glaurung. Only Smaug most likely came close with its victory at taking the lonely mountain as its lair .
And yet just 1 of them managed to appear on the screen so far. I can’t believe that we still only scratched the surface. I mean what was it? Like the movies covered just 250 years (counting Hobbit and LotR together) of the story and we still have the *ENTIRE* Silmarillion untouched!
I’m glad it’s left untouched, New Age Directors and Companies just want Game Of Thrones, so if they did touch Silmarrillion, they would change the story dramatically, add strong language, graphic sexual situations and elements of forced equality! This new age can’t touch Silmarrillion, but I fear it will, and it’ll ruin it forever
@@koheletcalaforexclan6508 well i hope you heard about Amazon's LOTR series set in 2nd age.. that is Numenor, Sauron being nice and not having a plan within plan within plan..
At 3:40, while referring to Scatha, there is an image of Túrin Turambar slaying Glaurung with Gurthang, a sword that had been reforged by the elves of Nargothrond, from the sword Anglachel. It is a great picture, but in the wrong place 😉
@@killahasbigrpk8711 no, im pretty sure he says bees, that's precisely why I quoted it using the word "bee". If you have any contextual evidence, lore-wise or not, supportive of the assertion he's not in fact referring to bees, but instead to other entity or concept, either figuratively - which I'll admit is plausible - or even literally - as suggested by others concerning one creature that goes by the name "Beast" - although i find this unlikely, feel free to share.
@@badrzouggagh but in a picture In another video, it showed Smaug to be very small, and it said that he is actually between like 15 to 18ft long, I was like, this is the guy whose teeth are swords, claws are spears, and destroyed to kingdoms, and ruled, he also said the king eagles could probably take out Smaug, I was so confused
@@jylgeekd2498 that's a fan art nothing more it's not canon sure ancalagon is far bigger but to be that big will make him able to stomp godzilla like an ant so he might be the size of godzilla or slightly larger
@@jylgeekd2498 hes not, not very small, just not very much in comparison to his mighty ancestors, he is still huge and terrifying. tolkien never states he is the smallest of the dragons, thats an overstatement
Even though considering the fact that they scaled up Smaug 8 times when compared to how big he was in the book, Ancalagon the Black may indeed still be larger than movie Smaug, the scale of which we see in the picture of the thumbnail isn’t correct if we are to use movie Smaug. If however we use that scale and have movie Smaug be canon then I don’t think Ancalagon the Black could’ve even existed, as it would’ve never been possible to defeat such a titan that dwarfs the likes of film Smaug.
There's meant to be like 7 of those in total Dragon Lung Dragon (Chinese dragon) Wyrm (snake like) Drake (wingless quadrupedal dragon) Wyvern Ampithere (winged snake) Lindwurm (snake with two legs)
What i like about these dragons is the story around them. We know so little yet they are covered in a vast mistery like a myth or legend. Ancalgon in my opinion died because of his size. It was very slow and an easy target. However i would love to see this in a show.
Morgoth is like the Soviets in Afghanistan. Spend millions on a Attack helicopter and a guy with a camel can shoot it down with a $10,000 handheld rocket launcher.
Not really I mean Morgoth is fighting Valar. It's like if the Soviets spent billions in Afghanistan but then the USA arrived in force, instead of just supplying weapons to the Mujahadeen. I mean the USA would be the Valar in this analogy
Not that many were shot down in Afghanistan,by Stinger a few dozen compared to the ammount of sorties they made that is negliglibe.The stingers light warheads and expiernced pilots plus advanced training reduced the threat of stingers greatly. Americans lost thousands of helicopters in Vietnam,inculding hundreds of Cobras,yet they made millions of sorties too.
I love dragons and I think Graur ung and Ancalagon, Smaug too, I love Graur ung's style of big, buff, and a ground dweller. I like Ancalagon's slick style and his big, thin, fast looking appearance, Smaug is so small compared to the other favorites, but he's cool. These are my favorite dragons and I hope you have a good day!
thanks, its sunny and beautiful outside. i hope i can get my mom and her headache to get outside. or myself. so i think my day is good. btw those are my favorite dragons too.
@@witchlynproductions753 well, no. smaug was not that weak, plus its never stated in tolkiens works that ancalagon was so much larger than smaug's kind/kin, nor is it clear if it was ancalagons dead body wich broke the peaks of morgoths mountains, but i can suspect his fall broke them so that the light of the sun would shine upon angband, from wich morgoths freed slaves then emerged. but we really don't know.
@@witchlynproductions753 Yeah Tolkien specified Smaug was "the greatest fire drake of the third age." He wasn't as big as Ancalagon, but neither was any other dragon. Generally, dragons started relatively small in size (Glaurung, the first dragon, had a head not much longer than a person) then increased in size for a while. Though this peaked with Ancalagon, the "great" dragons stayed pretty damn huge. The death of Smaug literally marked the death of the last Great Dragons. The reason no other dragons went to fight for Erebor's gold was because they knew Smaug had his eyes on it. They weren't gonna mess with that.
If you liked Smaug, Glaurung was like Smaug on steroids, he had magic, his gaze could enchant you, his speak level was greater than smaugs and saurumans combined!!
Yeah smaug is honestly a hobbit when comparing him to his ancestors, although smaug is pretty much the last dragon in the third age, so when he perished so did one of the great terrors of morgoth the dragons
Ancalagon was stronger than Sauron, and Gothmog was stronger than both. Just to put this into perspective, getting even close to Sauron or interacting with him will drive any mortal insane because his very presence is oppressive to everything around it. It'd be like entering the gravitational field of a more massive object.
From where did you get the information about Gostir and Tom´s Bombadil Dragon? I would very apreciate your assistance given that I´m reading Tolkien´s books. Good video!
Im pretty sure it is said that evil cannot create life, they only have the ability to corrupt it. So the origins of dragons has to be some sort of reptillian beast that Morgoth originally corrupted during his rule
0:40 can not understand that there is a debate if morgoth created dragons. the silmarillion is quite clear about it. since morgoth could not find the fire of creation he never was able to create new life, only to corrupt and pervert existing life. those pervertions were: orcs --> elves trolls --> ents there are debates from what creatures the dragons were perverted
But he also had maias following him. Balrogs are not perverted by Morgoth they were just maia following him and taking a horrible form. The dragons could be the same but in their case Morgoth may have "helped" with the transformation.
@@FrostDragon667 yes that could be. i was refering to whether morgoth had actually created them in the way aule created the dwarfs. in the silmarillion it is said that morgoth never had that ability.
Because most people never read the silmarillion. It’s tragic but true. The best piece of fantasy literature and most either never pick it up or can’t get past the first section.
What is crazy is all the baddies we watched on the big screen can't hold a candle to Morgoth and the enemies he created in the first age. I would love to watch a movie that takes place in the first age of middle earth. Doubt someone could do it justice though. The war with Morgoth makes the war with Sauron childs play.
Tolkien really made no clear telling to the size of Ancalagon that I know of.... in fact the only reference I could find was a comment by Gandalf that it had the hottest fire, "not even Ancalagon the Black" could melt the One Ring by consuming it. It also seems pretty evident that Ancalagon would have been quite a lot tougher than Smaug being bred and trained as a war dragon as it were, and certainly would have given Smaug a run for the money if it didn't turn tail and run on sight. Even if it wasn't mountain sized by comparison. I wrote a schpiel about this a few years ago and made my arguments lol quora What-is-the-size-difference-between-Ancalagon-the-Black-and-Smaug
The Hobbit and Tom Bombadil both grew out of stories Tolkien would make up and tell his kids. I think it's possible it was actually the same story, but he split them apart in his published books for reasons.
@@CrazyHeadassery okay yes you did read it wrong, I said Ancalagon was the inspiration for Deathwing. meaning Deathwing was based off of Ancalagon, well atleast in my head canon lmao
Ancalagon was large but no freaking way was he mountain-sized. The destruction of thangorodrim by a relatively small object I think is easily explainable by science. Same way a large meteor launched at a planet would cause massive damage to vast areas around the impact spot despite being way smaller than the larger object
Not to mention Tolkien has a habit of having smaller creatures destroy large areas. The Balrog that Gandalf fights is said to destroy the side of a mountain when he falls, yet is described as essentially the size of a man. He does this a lot with dragons too, describing them as almost having death throes. Smaug completely destroys Laketown in his death, and Glaurung's death throes could be seen and heard for miles. Very easy to see Ancalagon's death as not being analogous to his size.
@@DesX42S Yeah but that only applies if they fought in a very high altitude. I dont know if there was a mention of how high in the sky they were fighting.
@@aurelian2668 uhm, no, it would not rely solely on altitude necessarily. The dragon could have fallen to the bottom of the mountains writhing like Glaurung and wiped them out from their base. However, we are told this is an aerial battle so I like to imagine they are up pretty high. Even if the dragon fell from a height similar to the peaks of thangorodrim, that is still incredibly high and hitting the mountains at the right trajectory with the dead magical body of a dragon as it flails about could take them down. I mean, probably still makes more sense to imagine Ancalagon with leveling a region in his death throes than to picture a dragon bigger than a mountain range.
I've seen a LOT of dragons, wyverns, drakes and wyrms in my time, I can honestly say I have only ever seen one dragon who can match Ancalagon's shown size: The only Lv 11 Synchro Monster in Yu-Gi-Oh!, Star Eater, who is quite possibly the largest Monster in the entire Yugiverse, literally the size of a star! The next two would be basically space stations the size of the moon! There's a lot of big Monsters in Yu-Gi-Oh!, you may have guessed! (The Great Leviathan does not count and would not be included in any such list as he has on game counterpart!)
The DM: 'You wanted to kill the dragon, you went on and on about it all through the campaign how you wanted 'to slay a dragon'. Right, you just got your wish: Here's Ancalagon the Black, the terror of his age, dark servant of Morgoth and the greatest dragon that there has ever been or ever will be! Roll for initiative.'
@@hebercluff1665 Bard rolls a nat 20 with a +5 cha modifier and then proceeds to abuse an inspiration and bless dice. getting 4s on both added onto the overall roll score for a soft 33. he turns to the DM "im gonna Seduce that dragon into joining our side!"
Often wish Tolkien had put a bit more in about the War of Wrath. Supposedly the most epic showdown in the whole of Tolkien legendarium. The final battle between the greatest host ever assembled by the Valar and Morgoth's hoards of orcs, balrogs and dragons. And yet was awarded half a chapter in the Silmarillion with little to no detail on how it was even won.
Usually better to leave stuff like that as elements of grand myth and legend, takes away from a lot of the events themselves and the history that follows them. If events like that are explained in too much detail, the mythic nature of them starts to erode.
Well, there is void Ghidorah, absolutely bigger, but I prefer Ancalagon, no one knows how big he is, when I first saw him 3 years ago, Ancalagon was bigger than mountains, I dont know if Anc is bigger than mount everest
@@liquidfire21 he isnt bigger than mount everest he is 2000meters tall i am infinite size in my dimension but i am just 20 km big in the earth but way bigger than him i am so jealous of how he got to be a normal dragon and they turned me into gigantic space spagattie
@@emperorghidorah7139 thank you for the answer! Now that I know, I would be shock if he was bigger, dew to his size, he might need a large amount of space to roam around. Btw, is it just me who knows void Ghidorah?🤔🤨
it's crazy TOO THINK about the scales here angalagon had to be massive. yet still served morgoth...heres 1 of those 47 legacies too uncover BUT what do I know I'm crazy....they prolly didnt LOOK HUMAN either but maybe they did hard to say.
Ancalagon: My armour is like 1000 shields! My teeth are guillotines! My jaws are gates! My claws are rocks! The strike of my tail is an earthquake! My voice is thunder! And my breath is destruction!
Just googled it ancalgon was either 300 meters at his largest or 150 meters at his smallest godzilla 2016 was 300 meters , showa godzilla is 50 meters which would fit into ancalagon being 3x his size
Ancalagon the black appears* Gimli :"how do you kill that ?" Every Gamer that played Monster Hunter :"with greatswords Lots of heckin greatswords !!!!!!!"
Ancalagon to me felt like Morgoth’s last throw of the dice. The embodiment of his incarnation to create pure power, a terrible outpouring of vengeful wrath, malice and destruction as his last card to play against the Valar.
Of course smaller dragons are alive but think about it if they kept and kept on breeding eventually a change would happen and other huge dragons like Smaug would roam
Ancalagon typically ran on 50 EPH (elephants per hour). But may have needed as many as 200 per hour during war activities. And lets not even talk about toilet duty. Uchh..... lets just say the standard garden shovel will not do
Smaug:"My skin is like armour tenfold, my teeth are swords my claws spears, my wings like a hurricane, and my breath... death!" Ancagalon: "Awwwww look at da wittle baby dwagon wit his wittle baby teef, and his wittle baby wings..."
Size doesn't means everything. You thnik that giraffe is more badass animal than Lion because is bigger? Oh course sometimes huge creatures are powerfull but not always. Smaug was the most badass dragon in Tolkien Universe even if not the most powerfull.
Smaug: _"I am Fire, I am Death"_
Ancagalon: *look at you.. So cute*
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Lol yes
Mm
Ancagalon is famoua for its size, at least Smaug is the dragon I know who is a Menacr and very diabolical
ancalagon not ancagalon
Smaug: My wings a hurricane!
Ancalagon: I snore and the ground shatters
Lol so true
Smaug: My wings a hurricane!
Ancalagon: I fart bigger than that kiddo.
@@rhoonah5849 He farts and he'll poison all creation in the region. Nothing would be left standing.
I love how the smallest dragon lived the longest. It’s actually very realistic, because in any given war, the biggest targets get destroyed first.
course! gang up the biggest threat to middle earth like morgoth and sauron
And true for real life animals. Large animals usually live the shortest while smaller animals live the longest.
That's how large non-avian dinosaurs went extinct.
But Glauring was older than Smaug though
@@munkin8144 What? Are you stupid? That is incredibly wrong
Smaug: my wings are a hurricane! Ancagalon: 🦶
He has to big himself up some how
Void ghidorah in the corner:"stares trough dimensions"
@@MotherOfQuirks anime kid
@@gospodineverest5778 XD
Hold my sulfur...
We all thought Smaug was a beast... Meanwhile Ancalagon farts and cause a nuclear holocaust...
i just died laughing hahah
You, sir, win the comment section.
Why do you have to say shit like this? why you use such vulgar disgusting language that devalues and makes everything worthless?
@@DrakonlordEreshkihal-vf5o Troll
@@DrakonlordEreshkihal-vf5o look at ur name u support somebody that killed thousands
Smaug: my teeth are swords
Ancalagon: yeah, well my teeth were spear sized when I first hatched
There is a lot of debate over how big Smaug is but we can basically scale his body based on the size of his teeth.
If his teeth were 18inches (45cm) long the size of a small sword then his body would be about 150ft long or 47m. This is based on the study of dinosaur teeth which by comparison are only 3 to 4 inches long.
@@Novusod Which dino teeth? T-rex? Or some theropod bigger than it?
@@rushpan93 Talking about T-Rex and Spinosaurus scaling.
@@Novusod hm. Although you have to add a few feet to a dragon because it has a longer neck. Plus if it's a dragon and not a wyvern, you get 2 extra limbs and some extra dimensions added because of that.
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No matter how big these dragons were, plot armor still defeats them
The main reason y villian losses from hero
@@archanasharan5800 what's worse is when an overpowered villain is defeated by the power of love or friendship.
@@claireglory literally
@@archanasharan5800 haha a villain who had actual fighting experience for a thousand years got defeated by a hero who barely started fighting for a few years and won just because he/she has love and friendship on his/her side. ohhh i hate plot armors.
@@claireglory yes. Agree x 100
So Smaug was just a pipsqueak for Ancalagon. And we're just ants for Ancalagon
Hahahaha, hell yeah😂
You are ants for smaug, and dots for ancalagon.
We are tardigrade's to ancalagon. His vision had to have been rediculous.
@@godzilla5611 nah we are basically cells to him
We are smaller than dust
Smaug: I am fire I am Death
Ancalagon: oh look the baby’s first words so cute
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Any fictional universe: shows picture of giant beast/monster.
Fans: foaming at mouth.
I'm one of those fans. I love huge monsters
The profile pic confirms you do indeed foam at the mouth for monsters
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I love big monsters as Smaug, but not as huge as Godzilla, they are too big, and many times boring
@@avrace2708 yes, godzilla is boring. Dragons from epics like LOTR AND GOT are much interesting.
I am dragon lover and i believe Ancalagon looks really cool
Of course he is cool and best design dragon (art) I ever see so far. (I'm not counting Legendary Ghidorah ok? Because it is an alien)
@@evankeefairawan9968 yeah king ghidorah is a alien dragon
He huge!
If only Dragons in middle Earth are free will creatures with honor
Same im a dragon lover 😍
Just looking at the size we can all agree plot armour killed them off
well, plot armor does exist in the tolkien universe, its just that its the same as fate, wich nothing can breack or avert in any way.
That's the only reason any dragons die in any fantasy setting. No humanoid could ever hope to compete with a dragon, other than immensely powerful magi, but that type of magic doesn't even exist in Middle Earth. Just look at Gandalf, he's basically an old swordsman with the ability to conjure light, lol, and he's the most powerful magic user in the series.
@@jaysoniorg2950 Actually gandalf was a maiar, servants of valar and were sent to middle earth with only a fraction of their power because they were to motivate people to fight sauron instead of directly indulging with him. His Maia name was olorin .
@@jaysoniorg2950 there are lots of examples of Gandalf subtly using magic, and a good number where he is obviously using magical commands and divination. And you can't forget the Sarumon scene where he demonstrates his ability to lift people up and toss them like a rock.
power of love or friendship will defeat them all.
Smaug: my wings are like a hurricane, my teeth swords, my claws spears!
Ancalagon: I’m about to end this man’s whole career.
I think we all agree we want to see Ancalagon on the big screen!! Edit woww thanks for all the likes I never get those lol
there is no screen big enough
@@gaia9020 great comment man, THE DIFFICULTY OF CREATING SUCH A MOVIE SCENE WOULD PROVE TOO MUCH I THINK...TAKE PACIFIC RIM MOVIE OR GODZILLA AND MAKIN HIM 10 TIMES AS BIG....QUITE A CHALLENGE ID SAY....LOL . ITS LIKE SMAUG TURNS INTO BILBO-MODE , EXPLAINING HIMSELF BEFORE ANCALAGON....LOL
Can it fit?
basically king gidorah in the newer godzilla movie. just think of one head
@@TheFroschlurch what are you talking about? Ancalogon was around 2km long
I like Dragons very much especially the ones that can talk, think and have tremendous strengths with magical abilities. I like Smaug but I didn't realize there were more and the only ones beside the golden wyrm were Glaurung and Ancalagon. They need voice actors and personalities in future movies.
then you should check out the dragons in dungeons and dragons
@@paulangelopineda2534 I did but they are always stuck in different alignments with 2 Gods, The Metallics are being Good and the Chromatics are being Evil
Four of the seven dwarf rings were either swallowed by dragons or melted by dragon fire.
Also in the world of Middle Earth, dragon fire could melt the one ring.
but I doubt finding a dragon and asking him nicely if he'd melt the ring would have gone over well, so mount doom it is.
I feel like both of them would have much deeper voices than Smaug
@@xenxander This is incorrect. Dragon Fire could destroy the Rings of Power (the Dwarven Rings were destroyed that way), but not the One Ring crafted by Sauron.
Neither the fire of Ancalagon or any other great dragon was ever hot enough to melt it. Only the fires of Mt. Doom could destroy the Ring of Sauron.
I'm a dragon lover. Literally clicked on the video because I wanted more Ancalagon. Was disappointed that he was just barely mentioned as part of a group.
Hardly anything is told of him
Probably because no one lived to tell the tale after seeing him
Ancalagon is barely mentioned in Tolkien's texts, and his size is often exaggerated by artists and fans.
@@amirhoseinhemmaty5112 nope, he didn't live to tell The story. The poor lizard got rekt în no time
Glaurung was huge but it was his intelligence that made him far worse then the other dragons. He put a spell on Turin & his Sister so they would not know each other as siblings.
When the two met they fell in love. Turin was able to kill Glaurung but even as he died he still won as his spell was undone and the two memories returned. They both died by their own hand , one by shame and the other by grief.
Glaurung had many victories over the elves and humans during its life. I doubt any other dragon did as much damage to a culture as Glaurung. Only Smaug most likely came close with its victory at taking the lonely mountain as its lair .
Ancalagon is like the Colossal Titan of Tolkien universe.
No he is founding titan of middle Earth
Smaug: my wings a hurricane! My breath, death!
Ancalagon: quiet down boy, don't make tell you again!
Smaug: * defeats the whole population of Erebor *
Ancalong the Black: hold my beer
Ancalogon was so huge in the drawing he could fit Smaug under 1 of his feet.
Wow.
Smaug: my wing are hurricanes Ancalagon: *poke*
And yet just 1 of them managed to appear on the screen so far. I can’t believe that we still only scratched the surface. I mean what was it? Like the movies covered just 250 years (counting Hobbit and LotR together) of the story and we still have the *ENTIRE* Silmarillion untouched!
It's Tolkien's style to always only scratch the surface
I’m glad it’s left untouched, New Age Directors and Companies just want Game Of Thrones, so if they did touch Silmarrillion, they would change the story dramatically, add strong language, graphic sexual situations and elements of forced equality!
This new age can’t touch Silmarrillion, but I fear it will, and it’ll ruin it forever
@@koheletcalaforexclan6508 well i hope you heard about Amazon's LOTR series set in 2nd age.. that is Numenor, Sauron being nice and not having a plan within plan within plan..
Glaurung was evil upon evil. The story of Glaurung and what he did to Turin and his sister is the darkest writing Tolkien ever achieved.
At 3:40, while referring to Scatha, there is an image of Túrin Turambar slaying Glaurung with Gurthang, a sword that had been reforged by the elves of Nargothrond, from the sword Anglachel. It is a great picture, but in the wrong place 😉
0:25 "this world of elves and dwarfes and men are filled to brim with all sorts of magical and monstrous bees"
He said beings. Just sounded like bees
I think he said beasts
OH NO A GIANT B!
An airborne fire bee. Teeth like razors, claws like cheese knives.
@@killahasbigrpk8711 no, im pretty sure he says bees, that's precisely why I quoted it using the word "bee". If you have any contextual evidence, lore-wise or not, supportive of the assertion he's not in fact referring to bees, but instead to other entity or concept, either figuratively - which I'll admit is plausible - or even literally - as suggested by others concerning one creature that goes by the name "Beast" - although i find this unlikely, feel free to share.
Ancalagon was like ... the Godzilla of Middle Earth.
Yes
I wouldn't mind seeing Turin and Glaurung on the big screen. What if they adapted 'The Children of Hurin' as a movie or series?
Modern audiences would never be able to stomach the children of Hurin
I'm afraid they'd ruin that movie
Tolkien made the best fantasy world of all time Middle Earth is such a fascinating world with the incredible tales and stories brought upon it.
Ancagalon is a freaking mountain dude
realize that Smaug was the smallest dragon 😳
No he was the largest and strongest of his time but when compared to the old dead dead dragons he was nothing
@@badrzouggagh but in a picture In another video, it showed Smaug to be very small, and it said that he is actually between like 15 to 18ft long, I was like, this is the guy whose teeth are swords, claws are spears, and destroyed to kingdoms, and ruled, he also said the king eagles could probably take out Smaug, I was so confused
@@jylgeekd2498 that's a fan art nothing more it's not canon sure ancalagon is far bigger but to be that big will make him able to stomp godzilla like an ant so he might be the size of godzilla or slightly larger
@@badrzouggagh no like, It still said the Smaug is very small
@@jylgeekd2498 hes not, not very small, just not very much in comparison to his mighty ancestors, he is still huge and terrifying. tolkien never states he is the smallest of the dragons, thats an overstatement
Smaug: I AM FIRE AND DEATH ITSELF!
Ancalogon: Big talk for the smallest
Even though considering the fact that they scaled up Smaug 8 times when compared to how big he was in the book, Ancalagon the Black may indeed still be larger than movie Smaug, the scale of which we see in the picture of the thumbnail isn’t correct if we are to use movie Smaug.
If however we use that scale and have movie Smaug be canon then I don’t think Ancalagon the Black could’ve even existed, as it would’ve never been possible to defeat such a titan that dwarfs the likes of film Smaug.
he died regardless, he was massive anyway and still was killed by one man with help from the valar. he could’ve been larger and still died
The heroes literally have magic. Size doesn't mean anything in the face of magic.
Smoug is that big lol Tolkien said that bilbo was way to big in the picture
Sure it would if you have a quiver of black arrows given to you by Eru Iluvitar
I'm glad this isn't the type of fantasy world to waste the time with the "is it technically wyvern or a dragon" debate.
Just big lizard=dragon
Agree, lol
There's meant to be like 7 of those in total
Dragon
Lung Dragon (Chinese dragon)
Wyrm (snake like)
Drake (wingless quadrupedal dragon)
Wyvern
Ampithere (winged snake)
Lindwurm (snake with two legs)
@@evanmiller2562 or... Dragon.
Evan-I had that book as a kid too
It's entirely dependent on the author and the terminology they use.
Ancalagon would have been something to see...
Could he fight Godzilla??? And win
@@artmosley3337 Godzilla has eaten one Dragon already and You question His strentgh ?
@@reeno1357 anacalagon is no normal dragon. Godzilla would be like a puppy to him in size.
@@reeno1357Yes he is!, he was bigger than Godzilla bigger than a mountain!
What i like about these dragons is the story around them. We know so little yet they are covered in a vast mistery like a myth or legend. Ancalgon in my opinion died because of his size. It was very slow and an easy target. However i would love to see this in a show.
Morgoth is like the Soviets in Afghanistan. Spend millions on a Attack helicopter and a guy with a camel can shoot it down with a $10,000 handheld rocket launcher.
Haha silmarils go Brrrrrrrrrrrrr
Not really I mean Morgoth is fighting Valar. It's like if the Soviets spent billions in Afghanistan but then the USA arrived in force, instead of just supplying weapons to the Mujahadeen. I mean the USA would be the Valar in this analogy
Not that many were shot down in Afghanistan,by Stinger a few dozen compared to the ammount of sorties they made that is negliglibe.The stingers light warheads and expiernced pilots plus advanced training reduced the threat of stingers greatly. Americans lost thousands of helicopters in Vietnam,inculding hundreds of Cobras,yet they made millions of sorties too.
@@vindicare9636 Who mentioned stingers?
The USA lost 10000 aircraft in vietnam.
I love dragons and I think Graur ung and Ancalagon, Smaug too, I love Graur ung's style of big, buff, and a ground dweller. I like Ancalagon's slick style and his big, thin, fast looking appearance, Smaug is so small compared to the other favorites, but he's cool.
These are my favorite dragons and I hope you have a good day!
thanks, its sunny and beautiful outside. i hope i can get my mom and her headache to get outside. or myself. so i think my day is good. btw those are my favorite dragons too.
Dragons are badass creatures, especially Smaug
Ancalagon could snort him by accident while flying. Smaug is actually one of the weakest dragons.
@@witchlynproductions753 well, no. smaug was not that weak, plus its never stated in tolkiens works that ancalagon was so much larger than smaug's kind/kin, nor is it clear if it was ancalagons dead body wich broke the peaks of morgoths mountains, but i can suspect his fall broke them so that the light of the sun would shine upon angband, from wich morgoths freed slaves then emerged. but we really don't know.
@@witchlynproductions753 Yeah Tolkien specified Smaug was "the greatest fire drake of the third age." He wasn't as big as Ancalagon, but neither was any other dragon. Generally, dragons started relatively small in size (Glaurung, the first dragon, had a head not much longer than a person) then increased in size for a while. Though this peaked with Ancalagon, the "great" dragons stayed pretty damn huge. The death of Smaug literally marked the death of the last Great Dragons. The reason no other dragons went to fight for Erebor's gold was because they knew Smaug had his eyes on it. They weren't gonna mess with that.
If you liked Smaug, Glaurung was like Smaug on steroids, he had magic, his gaze could enchant you, his speak level was greater than smaugs and saurumans combined!!
Smaug: *My wings create tornadoes!*
Ancalagon: 😮💨
Ancalagon The Black
Racist
@@hesja88 but he's black
@@hesja88 ayyyy
@@cmos3945 that explains why he had no rights and was shot
Looking at the size comparison... I used to think Smaug was scary... Now, I want to pet him
Woah
Smaug: i am fire i am death
The others: ah you are just a cute little dragon
I just can't believe that some guy with a flying boat and a bow killed Ancalagon the Black smh.
He had Silmarill, and help of Valars, which are powerfull as Gods
I thought Smaug was big, pfffttt, not even close.
Yeah smaug is honestly a hobbit when comparing him to his ancestors, although smaug is pretty much the last dragon in the third age, so when he perished so did one of the great terrors of morgoth the dragons
@@potatoeconnectionmohawk1996 Lol, yep
Ancalagon was stronger than Sauron, and Gothmog was stronger than both.
Just to put this into perspective, getting even close to Sauron or interacting with him will drive any mortal insane because his very presence is oppressive to everything around it. It'd be like entering the gravitational field of a more massive object.
I love the LOTR series and this is probably one of my new favorite videos
From where did you get the information about Gostir and Tom´s Bombadil Dragon? I would very apreciate your assistance given that I´m reading Tolkien´s books. Good video!
Im pretty sure it is said that evil cannot create life, they only have the ability to corrupt it. So the origins of dragons has to be some sort of reptillian beast that Morgoth originally corrupted during his rule
Evil can create, and it’s stated in the lore that dragons were created by morgoth, not corrupted. But CREATED by morgoth.
Yo, Ancalagon looks metal AF
0:40 can not understand that there is a debate if morgoth created dragons. the silmarillion is quite clear about it. since morgoth could not find the fire of creation he never was able to create new life, only to corrupt and pervert existing life.
those pervertions were:
orcs --> elves
trolls --> ents
there are debates from what creatures the dragons were perverted
But he also had maias following him. Balrogs are not perverted by Morgoth they were just maia following him and taking a horrible form. The dragons could be the same but in their case Morgoth may have "helped" with the transformation.
@@FrostDragon667 yes that could be. i was refering to whether morgoth had actually created them in the way aule created the dwarfs. in the silmarillion it is said that morgoth never had that ability.
Because most people never read the silmarillion. It’s tragic but true. The best piece of fantasy literature and most either never pick it up or can’t get past the first section.
Let us not forget Chrysophylax in Tolkiens short story farmer Giles of ham. For he to is a dragon worth remembering.
What is crazy is all the baddies we watched on the big screen can't hold a candle to Morgoth and the enemies he created in the first age. I would love to watch a movie that takes place in the first age of middle earth. Doubt someone could do it justice though. The war with Morgoth makes the war with Sauron childs play.
Tolkien really made no clear telling to the size of Ancalagon that I know of.... in fact the only reference I could find was a comment by Gandalf that it had the hottest fire, "not even Ancalagon the Black" could melt the One Ring by consuming it.
It also seems pretty evident that Ancalagon would have been quite a lot tougher than Smaug being bred and trained as a war dragon as it were, and certainly would have given Smaug a run for the money if it didn't turn tail and run on sight. Even if it wasn't mountain sized by comparison. I wrote a schpiel about this a few years ago and made my arguments lol
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Ancalagon could have Samug as a pet lmaoo
Kratos: *I do not wish to quarrel with you beasts, let me be and you will live*
The Tom Bombadil dragon almost sounds like a distorted or less accurate retelling of Smaug's story. Could be referring to the same dragon?
The Hobbit and Tom Bombadil both grew out of stories Tolkien would make up and tell his kids. I think it's possible it was actually the same story, but he split them apart in his published books for reasons.
I'm p sure Ancalagon was the inspiration for Deathwing from WoW. Just like how the Lich King was obviously based off of Sauron.
you got that in reverse. XD
@@CrazyHeadassery huh I think you read that wrong
@@sky.island But LOTR came before WoW.
@@CrazyHeadassery okay yes you did read it wrong, I said Ancalagon was the inspiration for Deathwing. meaning Deathwing was based off of Ancalagon, well atleast in my head canon lmao
@@sky.island oh fuck i did, my mistake. XD
Wow you finally explained soo cooool now dragons really existed.
Ancalagon was large but no freaking way was he mountain-sized. The destruction of thangorodrim by a relatively small object I think is easily explainable by science. Same way a large meteor launched at a planet would cause massive damage to vast areas around the impact spot despite being way smaller than the larger object
Not to mention Tolkien has a habit of having smaller creatures destroy large areas. The Balrog that Gandalf fights is said to destroy the side of a mountain when he falls, yet is described as essentially the size of a man. He does this a lot with dragons too, describing them as almost having death throes. Smaug completely destroys Laketown in his death, and Glaurung's death throes could be seen and heard for miles. Very easy to see Ancalagon's death as not being analogous to his size.
@@DesX42S good pt
@@DesX42S Yeah but that only applies if they fought in a very high altitude. I dont know if there was a mention of how high in the sky they were fighting.
@@aurelian2668 uhm, no, it would not rely solely on altitude necessarily. The dragon could have fallen to the bottom of the mountains writhing like Glaurung and wiped them out from their base. However, we are told this is an aerial battle so I like to imagine they are up pretty high. Even if the dragon fell from a height similar to the peaks of thangorodrim, that is still incredibly high and hitting the mountains at the right trajectory with the dead magical body of a dragon as it flails about could take them down. I mean, probably still makes more sense to imagine Ancalagon with leveling a region in his death throes than to picture a dragon bigger than a mountain range.
make a video on monsters and titans defeated by godzilla and kong in monsterverse.
Yea do it plz mindq
I've seen a LOT of dragons, wyverns, drakes and wyrms in my time, I can honestly say I have only ever seen one dragon who can match Ancalagon's shown size: The only Lv 11 Synchro Monster in Yu-Gi-Oh!, Star Eater, who is quite possibly the largest Monster in the entire Yugiverse, literally the size of a star! The next two would be basically space stations the size of the moon! There's a lot of big Monsters in Yu-Gi-Oh!, you may have guessed! (The Great Leviathan does not count and would not be included in any such list as he has on game counterpart!)
Good video, but what is up with this order lol seemed a bit to random...maybe chronological or size as all orders
The DM: 'You wanted to kill the dragon, you went on and on about it all through the campaign how you wanted 'to slay a dragon'.
Right, you just got your wish: Here's Ancalagon the Black, the terror of his age, dark servant of Morgoth and the greatest dragon that there has ever been or ever will be!
Roll for initiative.'
Bard! Lie for us! Convince him we're orcs!
@@hebercluff1665 Bard rolls a nat 20 with a +5 cha modifier and then proceeds to abuse an inspiration and bless dice. getting 4s on both added onto the overall roll score for a soft 33. he turns to the DM "im gonna Seduce that dragon into joining our side!"
Make a video on karathen's size with other kaijjus pls pleeeeeeaaaassssee🙏
Often wish Tolkien had put a bit more in about the War of Wrath. Supposedly the most epic showdown in the whole of Tolkien legendarium. The final battle between the greatest host ever assembled by the Valar and Morgoth's hoards of orcs, balrogs and dragons. And yet was awarded half a chapter in the Silmarillion with little to no detail on how it was even won.
Usually better to leave stuff like that as elements of grand myth and legend, takes away from a lot of the events themselves and the history that follows them. If events like that are explained in too much detail, the mythic nature of them starts to erode.
my favourite dragon was Ancalagon
Thanks
i want to see king ghidorah vs Ancalagon that would be epic
Hes much larger than king ghidorah like at least 2 to 3 times bigger
@@sellyoursoul1742 what about me? I'm pretty sure I am bigger than him
Well, there is void Ghidorah, absolutely bigger, but I prefer Ancalagon, no one knows how big he is, when I first saw him 3 years ago, Ancalagon was bigger than mountains, I dont know if Anc is bigger than mount everest
@@liquidfire21 he isnt bigger than mount everest he is 2000meters tall i am infinite size in my dimension but i am just 20 km big in the earth but way bigger than him i am so jealous of how he got to be a normal dragon and they turned me into gigantic space spagattie
@@emperorghidorah7139 thank you for the answer! Now that I know, I would be shock if he was bigger, dew to his size, he might need a large amount of space to roam around.
Btw, is it just me who knows void Ghidorah?🤔🤨
it's crazy TOO THINK about the scales here angalagon had to be massive. yet still served morgoth...heres 1 of those 47 legacies too uncover BUT what do I know I'm crazy....they prolly didnt LOOK HUMAN either but maybe they did hard to say.
Ancalagon:
My armour is like 1000 shields!
My teeth are guillotines!
My jaws are gates!
My claws are rocks!
The strike of my tail is an earthquake!
My voice is thunder!
And my breath is destruction!
Ancalagon is my favourite Dragon
Lol most of these comments are just people roasting Smaug while blowing Ancalagon.
4:18 "This 3rd dragon on the list."
Me: Did....did 4 get replaced by 3??
How to train your dragon has left the chat
I all was loved and had a condenser with dragons don't know why. I'm even born under dragon Chinese zodiac.
So Ancalagon... like Godzilla sized or more like Cloverfield final form size?
Larger than Godzilla, easily. Around 4-5 times the size.
Just googled it ancalgon was either 300 meters at his largest or 150 meters at his smallest godzilla 2016 was 300 meters , showa godzilla is 50 meters which would fit into ancalagon being 3x his size
@@alextaggart9737 Godzilla King of The Monsters is 120 meters so smaller than Ancalagon
Ancalagon was large enough to stand on multiple mountains.
@@ulvnorden460 oh nah m.bonanza.com/listings/Dragon-Hoodies/1056246428
Ancalagon the black appears*
Gimli :"how do you kill that ?"
Every Gamer that played Monster Hunter :"with greatswords Lots of heckin greatswords !!!!!!!"
Nope, better get the Dragonator
Ancalagon to me felt like Morgoth’s last throw of the dice.
The embodiment of his incarnation to create pure power, a terrible outpouring of vengeful wrath, malice and destruction as his last card to play against the Valar.
Is there a stand alone version of that Ancalagon picture in the thumbnail? :o
Technically, Morgoth is not able to CREATE life. Only Eru can. So he’s not the daddy of the dragons ahah
Ancalagon reminds me of Bahamut ZERO from Final Fantasy 7.
I like the idea of melkor planning to rebel again when all his evil power returns from middle earth with the death of his creations
And here I thought Smaug was huge
Smaug was huge, the others were collosal.
@@ulfjohnsen6203 yeah
How were Elves scared of the tiny Smaug if they had fought the big ones?
I think most elves in mirkwood never saw a dragon
Of course smaller dragons are alive but think about it if they kept and kept on breeding eventually a change would happen and other huge dragons like Smaug would roam
Big thanks for the education
I'd love a Lord of the Rings Magic the Gathering set, Ancalagon as a Legedary Dragon card?! Let's gooo
Great video 👍
Smaug: "My teeth are swords, my claws are spears."
Ancalagon: "B*tch! I was born that way."
Ancalagon was tom bombadills pet back in time ^^
I can't wait for the next generation of computer games to truly bring Middle Earth to life.
Great video! 👍🏼👍🏼
Okay but what does Ancalagon even eat??? To maintain that size he’d have to eat like 10 elephants a DAY.
Lol
The power and energy from the dark lord is what fuels him also Smaug slept for a long time with hoard of treasure without eating
Ancalagon typically ran on 50 EPH (elephants per hour). But may have needed as many as 200 per hour during war activities.
And lets not even talk about toilet duty. Uchh..... lets just say the standard garden shovel will not do
You forgot Gandalf's firework
I can't even imagine how Ancalagon The Black was defeated by Earendil! Their difference in size was quite large.
Let's remember that Smaug was talking all that good stuff in Lake-Town before he got popped in his chest.
Smaug : MY WINGS ARE A HURRICANE Ancagalon: I take a step and mountains break
Fatalis: I am the biggest monster fear me
Ancala: Breathes in fatalis direction
Palico: objective completed
Smaug:"My skin is like armour tenfold, my teeth are swords my claws spears, my wings like a hurricane, and my breath... death!"
Ancagalon: "Awwwww look at da wittle baby dwagon wit his wittle baby teef, and his wittle baby wings..."
Size doesn't means everything. You thnik that giraffe is more badass animal than Lion because is bigger? Oh course sometimes huge creatures are powerfull but not always. Smaug was the most badass dragon in Tolkien Universe even if not the most powerfull.
Smaug: I'm a big boy dragon!
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