SYND 12 3 76 ICELANDIC GUNBOAT COLLIDES WITH BRITISH FRIGATE
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2015
- (11 Mar 1976) The Icelandic coast guard report that British naval frigates had rammed one of their gunboats four times during the day. but there were no casualties in the continuing cod war between the two countries over iceland's extension of her fishing limits to two hundred miles (320 kilometres). An Icelandic coast guard official said the British frigate Juno rammed the gunboat Tyr twice and the frigate Mermaid rammed the gunboat Thor twice. On Thursday (March 11th), the British frigate Diamede was in collision with the gunboat Bal Dur
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I used to know the doctor who was on one of the British trawlers (mandated because they wouldn't have been allowed to make port in Iceland in the case of medical emergency). He was onboard when the man from Grimsby was killed. The fisherman wasn't merely "injured" by the severed hawser, he was actually cut in half. He told me about it over thirty years after the fact. Experiences like that don't leave you.
I was serving on HMS Jupiter when we were rammed by an Icelander, we were put back into harbour for repairs
Haha in yo face dis is our fish
@@laraaalsteinsdottir1358 and it has been for 50 years it didn't happen yesterday so there's no point in bragging about winning the most powerful navy in the world thrice in a row while only having 7 ships made for defence
Also you make us all
look like a bunch of assholes.
Edit: grammar
Ah yes the cod wars
I'm Icelandic, so I should be biased - but you can see how the converted trawler/gunboat repeatedly swerves in front of the frigate (it lists "out" of the turn each time it turns sharply).
The tactic is clear: To use the reinforced stern of the trawler to damage the thin-skinned hull of the frigate.
The trawler/gunboat was clearly breaking the rules - but usually the rule-book is the first thing thrown out the window in a conflict.
The frigate could easily have blown the trawler out of the water, but was not allowed to, allowing the Icelandic Coast Guard to shamelessly use their best weapon; their sturdy hulls, built for operations in the Arctic ocean.
What is unfair is the fact that until very recently, Icelanders have been convinced that the British warships were ramming our gunboats when, in fact, the opposite was true.
I like boats
The Frigate overtook the ICGV so, according to the rules of the road, was the burdened vessel. Baldur's top speed was 17 knots but Diomede's was 30. So the frigate could have left the scene whenever. The Icelandic captain's orders were to stop the fishing boats. The frigate had been ordered to stop the ICGV from doing so. A conflict is inevitable in cases like that.
How on earth do we know which is true without reading the minds of every captain involved in this conflict?
The first casualty in every single war is always the truth.
I'm Canadian and Iceland was in the right throughout the whole conflict(s). Anything else is anti-Icelandic drivel.
@swansea007791 apparently it is.
I was on Grimsby trawlers in both 70's conflicts. The British fishermen never wanted this to happen,we hoped for a quota that would at least enable part of our fleet to be saved. But politicians interfered and ruined everything. We could never win because in the end America was threatened by Iceland.The threat was closure of their Airbase at Keflavik which was vital for monitoring Russia's submarines. America put pressure on the UK government and we pulled out. No quota,nothing. I'm sure if just our trawler owners and the Icelandic Government had sat together a deal could have been reached.I'd previously been in Iceland and loved the place and had friends put in after accidents.All very well looked after.Also on occassions when our trawlers went aground in winter storms the people would do everything they could to save lives (and they did). Fish was their countries lifeline so they had to protect the stocks, I know in the last few years I was there it got harder to catch Cod etc.At the time I admit I hated the gunboats for what they did, but also understood why.
Wow, thank you for sharing!
I'm from Iceland, born in the 80's and I came to this video to learn more. Thanks for your insight!
Why was the British trawler fishing in Icelandic waters?
3 words Fish and Chips
Still trying to find the one where the news broadcaster casually asks the british ship some questions while on another ship
The 70s sea food was amazing so expensive now miss eating Sea Shrimps/Prawns
I'm very proud of my ancestors that sailed. I respect the British for being Gentlemen. However Icelanders are natural sailors that never give up. Icelanders asked to purchase Destroyers from the USA, Icelanders started plans for their own too.
Assuming you are the avarage age of around 32 years then you were born in 1990 and that would mean your father would've most likely been born around the 1970-60s so your grandfather and or your father were alive and potentially "fought" in the cod wars .in other words you are calling your grandparents and or your parents your ancestors (Wich is technically true but a bit unusual to call your grandparents don't you think?).
@@Boop__Doop What did he mean by “sailed”? Couldn’t he just have been referring to his ancestors who went to sea? In Iceland, BTW, “going to sea” and “sailor” usually means becoming a fisherman.
which one was the icelandic boat?
livinglifeasachinese communistincanada the one that got rammed
The good one
My dad was also on board one of the ships that was in the cod war but I can't remember which. He served on fearless, juno and decoy. And was radio op
What nation you are from?
@@IBY-zx2jp uk
@@mooncatt79 oh, but this war doesnt invovle guns am i right?
@@mooncatt79 by the way im from israel
@@IBY-zx2jp the uk ships wasn't allowed to fire at the Icelandic gunboats unless they were fired upon first. To get around this the Icelandic gunboats would try and ram the uk ships. My dad an his buddies used to throw potatoes at them instead
38 knots Frigate against 14 knots Baldur was Amazing because of the British Frigate much bigger, and had a bigger turn to navigate :) :) And the worst was the British Crown did not pay 3.850 million pounds to the damages from the Cod wars to the Icelandic people and The Icelandic Coastguard!!
That's how UK became the largest empire in the world. Sending battleships to fishing boats 😂😂😂😂😂 HAHAHAH
I'm with Iceland.
Who would win
The biggest navy in the world Wich served one of the biggest empires to ever be on this earth
Or
One fishy boi
Cheers
COMING TO A NEWS CHANNEL NEAR YOU ...SOON
this is coming lads in the English channel.....
Not with a bankrupt Britain.
It's true only this time our navy is about the same size that Iceland's was then. And we won't have anyone with the backbone to use it !
@@vespelian5769 There's obviously no such thing as being bankrupt except in the moral sense.
@@nigelmitchell351 Some accountants might disagree with you but as for moral bankruptcy, yes that is a phenomenon.
@@nigelmitchell351 I don't recall Iceland having any aircraft carriers back in the 1970s and their frigate and destroyer force was negligible to say the least. As for lack of backbone, it would be nice if the Admiralty told the Yanks to fuck off from time to time instead of being their perpetual and obedient poodle.
Daft days indeed. A couple of shots across that trawler would have them going in the other direction.
...and the Keflavik airbase would've been closed.
It made no sense to sabotage one of the biggest strategic advantages against the Soviet navy just to keep keep fishing Icelandic waters. NATO, including the UK, invested massive resources to detect soviet submarines and Iceland was absolutely critical to doing so.
Das ist kein Gunboot, sondern ein Fischtrawler.
dont touch their cods
Some people actually died over a dispute about food that changed nothing
This was a dispute over who was allowed to fish in the seas surrounding Iceland. Do keep in mind that fishing is the second most important industry in Iceland. To Britain and the rest of the world this might have been unimportant and stupid, but to us it wasn’t. There was only one confirmed death in the wars, which was an Icelandic engineer. Yes, that’s terrible and nobody should have died over these disputes. But simply chalking it up to ‘a dispute about food that changed nothing’ is honestly just disrespectful.
Who would win
The largest navy in the world backed by multiple large European countries
Or
One fishy boi
A time when we had some balls ..now it's a time of throwing flowers ...flying a rainbow flag & hugs..🇬🇧
Glad that justice prevailed , and Britain got sense . It's Icelandic waters .
A 'gun boat' with no guns on board, nice try :-(
It has a small gun mounted on it's bow, it can be seen at 2:18.
@@lukeshaver1149 Under cover. It may be even a whaling harpoon gun as far as we know (which would not be surprising on an ex-fishing ship).
@OdinSon Actually, I found she was ordered as a patrol ship and built in Alborg Vaerft (shipyard) in Alborg, Denmark.
Baldur was built in Poland as a stern trawler for a fishing company in Dalvík and arrived in Iceland in June 1974. A year later, the Icelandic government bought the ship to use as a science vessel.[1]
Cod Wars
See also: Cod Wars
In December 1975, Baldur was transferred to the Icelandic Coast Guard and converted to an armed trawler to serve in the third Cod Wars conflict against the United Kingdom
WOTAN!!!
Where is The Gun
You'll need to be more specific.
Island sonos Argentinas!
Ah yes bringing up history trying to destroy realizations between UK and Iceland.
It’s history this yall problem stop tryna like did not happened acknowledge it Nd move on
You think this old ass strife is going to affect modern relations? LOL, get real.
I'm ngl to u mate I think brexits pretty much taken care of British/European relations
And by "taken care of" of course I mean beaten molested murdered then set on fire
@@mitchellhogg4627 Yikes.
ship rammed 2017
Thank god Iceland won
Britain was trying to bully Icelanders and snatch the fish there
If you say so
Don`t talk crap. The dispute was over Iceland imposing an extension of its fishing waters.
Same thing no difference.They depend on their fish to a degree we do not.We had no business stealing their stocks
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SHOULD HAVE FIRED
we lost our empire, lets's bully Iceland.
Respct to Icelanders.
Ramming
They are ramming each other. The british more so in order to prevent the icelander reach the trawlers. David vs Goliath
If it was David v Goliath we would have shot them out of the water World opinion won for Iceland not their coastguard If you think they were ramming each other learn rules of the sea PLONKER
@@michaelhannah4472 PLONKER?? Whats that limee? They were ramming each other, Einstein cause even Britain(alas often the 'Bully' of colonies) could not shoot a western ship down. A fellow member of Nato. So I know it for a fact from first hand they were infact ramming each other. Sometimes the Tugboat would ram. Hardly the frigate with paperthin flanks
@@guyjonson6364 You are lucky Gudjon you live 1000km away . Unfortunately we live next to them . Hilsen fra Irlande
@@patrickmurphy9266 já ! Kveðjur og biðjum að heilsa frændum okkar á Irlandi. We areabout.( Or almost 50% irish blood here) greetings to our cousins
@@guyjonson6364 I know
Crash derby
All this for fish. (Fish is good,dont get me wrong but its not worth losing your life over it.)
I think you'll find examples of mankind fighting over fishing grounds centuries into the past.
humans have fought eachother to death for salt
You have to remember Iceland is a tiny country and fish are its most important Food and industry. LITTLE ELSE BUT SOME TOURISM AND VOLCANIC POWER GENERATION
🇮🇸🖤
Rule Britannia..Britannia rules the waves....NOT
and sleep. This is the most boring bulls hit I've heard
Served on HMS Eastborne at the time, and put the Baldur out of action
lol, and you're proud of that?
The real heroes were the Icelanders who stood up to you bullies without flinching.
Yes . Poaching is wrong. Justice triumphed.
@@user-ez9is7lb9p The other side was an old lion with rotten teeth still thinking it's roar amounted to something.
I read that, less than a year later, the Eastbourne was deemed unfit for sea.
@@catoomch The Icelanders were the ones ramming and shooting so we taught them a lesson. We only “lost” because the Icelandic’s threatened to shut down the nato airbase.
The British lost!
What was the rn doing there..just like usn sticking its nose into the wrong business and crying foul
Read the history of it
Once pirates, always pirates and thieves.
Protecting British fishing trawlers from Icelandic trawlers as they were aggressively harassing the British fishermen
@@ulsterinfidel9897 It was mostly the Icelandic Coast Guard going after the British trawlers, I've never heard of Icelandic trawlers taking part in the skirmishes.