Deion Sanders gets heated at Kyrie Irving for wanting to leave LeBron James | First Take | ESPN

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  • @jayman2jay
    @jayman2jay 7 років тому +682

    Kyrie is Nightwing, not Robin.

    • @Jalilm17
      @Jalilm17 7 років тому +30

      Jay Jackson Well said. Very well said lol.

    • @unworthy0rc312
      @unworthy0rc312 7 років тому +7

      Jalilm17 I completely agree

    • @aj9641
      @aj9641 7 років тому +79

      LOL Nah he is more like damien wayne, cause LEBRON IS HIS DAMN DADDY.

    • @OfficialGrimmjow
      @OfficialGrimmjow 7 років тому +18

      +Timmy Timmy Turner With The BURNER L

    • @enzocarney5630
      @enzocarney5630 7 років тому

      Jay Jackson that is amazing

  • @alphonsesenjutsu
    @alphonsesenjutsu 3 роки тому +18

    Uncle Deion Sanders just broke it down clearly for them. As a player you CAN'T leave a winning situation where you're going to the Finals every year over some ego issues. It's plain stupid man period. Kyrie never WON again but LeBron WON in 2020.

    • @Code0866
      @Code0866 2 роки тому

      Not only has kyrie not won anything, he hasn’t even made it past r1 playoffs and his career overall has been on a terrible downfall

    • @mohahmed4304
      @mohahmed4304 Рік тому

      @@Code0866 he’s still putting up numbers though so it’s not like he’s regressed on an individual level

    • @ced3797
      @ced3797 Рік тому +1

      Deion was absolutely right

  • @walkerwayz5039
    @walkerwayz5039 4 роки тому +30

    Watching this 4 years later and if course Dieon was right on the money about Kyrie. Stephen A of Max look like fools who depend on athletes to make them relevant.

  • @Bulls1224
    @Bulls1224 7 років тому +264

    If kyrie never left they'd be saying Kyrie was only good cause he had LeBron , he's a grown ass man stop acting like he's running away from his parents.

    • @patrickclark1615
      @patrickclark1615 7 років тому +9

      Bullard513 point exactly

    • @lop8828
      @lop8828 7 років тому +3

      Bullard513 cuhhhz. Everybody sayin lebron leaving next year. I put my house and 3 whips he won't. How would you feel after you come back home for a main reason. ' kyrie. Not cus he just wanted to win a chip with a bunch of no niggas.
      Now you leave main reason I believe cuz he knows nobody got enough man power to beat gsw in the league. That's a bitch ass move if you ask any grown man now your going to turn it in your favor and say you want your own 51% leadership control. That's weak boi.

    • @thetraveler9
      @thetraveler9 7 років тому +22

      Exactly. Lebron fans act like Kyrie should be lebrons slave, doing tons of work yet receiving no credit. What kind of man would want to continuously hear that they are nothing without another man ? Bitch ass dudes, that's who. Most lebron fans are bitches at heart so they can't understand how Kyrie wouldn't want to be seen as lebrons son.

    • @Bulls1224
      @Bulls1224 7 років тому +2

      B00steDevil I understand what you're saying 100 percent, but look at it like this. How come it's okay for LeBron to possibly leave for LA but when Kyrie wants to go to another team and build his legacy, it's an issue. That's all I'm trying to understand

    • @lop8828
      @lop8828 7 років тому

      Bullard513 ite fam. But your on your last 2 years one year option. You don't have to sign 5 year 120 mill. I just don't get it why now.I felt the same for wade when bron left. I'm no lebron fan but you do get it back one day and it's going to hurt.
      In that case I do agree with you leave now and worry no more. Cause it's a damn circus down in Cleveland.

  • @nibblesgaming8658
    @nibblesgaming8658 5 років тому +69

    Now look at kyrie joining the Brooklyn net's with kd🤣

    • @Lilmoobaby16
      @Lilmoobaby16 3 роки тому +7

      After he wanted to be the leader Lmaooo what a flat earth typical brain

    • @nibblesgaming8658
      @nibblesgaming8658 3 роки тому

      @@Lilmoobaby16 You fool only typical flat earth brain 🧠 I see is you responding with such a unreasonable comment so you telling me Kyrie wasn't a leader in Boston?

    • @BaBagoneblow
      @BaBagoneblow 3 роки тому

      Nd finna get ah ring lets go kyrie 😁

    • @BaBagoneblow
      @BaBagoneblow 3 роки тому +2

      @@Lilmoobaby16 u sound mad lol

    • @papaditto
      @papaditto 3 роки тому

      @@nibblesgaming8658 he couldn't handle being a leader in Boston so he had to go and create a super team in Brooklyn.

  • @Finao15
    @Finao15 7 років тому +359

    "I had to get the bag" FACTS

    • @miguelcortez4050
      @miguelcortez4050 6 років тому +2

      Derrion Finao he's said that raiders offered him more money than dallas. If he's supposedly about getting the bag. Lol

    • @leanderthomassr9733
      @leanderthomassr9733 6 років тому +1

      Derrion Finao to

    • @Jrtheth3rdTV
      @Jrtheth3rdTV 6 років тому

      Derrion Finao Lebron James for MVP - open.spotify.com/artist/0kNfDWxyrDciuw723AWHWo?si=UFJUqkQ8Qjq38FqIevaNMw

    • @rubenanaya6273
      @rubenanaya6273 6 років тому

      Derrion Finao y'all trash stfu let the man do what he wants. Fck LeBron he never getting more rings then he has now.

    • @jacobrichardson1455
      @jacobrichardson1455 6 років тому +6

      You're delusional if you think Bron aint getting another ring...LMAO. He'll probably get 2 when he goes and shows CP3/Harden how to win one or them boys over in Philly...Cuz damn sure he won't stay in Shit hole Cleveland. I'm just glad he won that city a championship and fulfilled his promise so he can get the hell outa there and stop wasting MVP basketball performances year after year...

  • @ebrown958
    @ebrown958 7 років тому +832

    Fans love acting like these players owe them anything lol there's no need to throw tantrums when players take their own careers into their own hands

    • @crhuynh8
      @crhuynh8 7 років тому +46

      eyon brown it is just lebron's fan who is being salty. Without kryie carrying and closing out games for the frozen one lebron, lebron will never win again.
      Kryie is the real batman. Lebron is the frozen man.

    • @caseclosed8189
      @caseclosed8189 7 років тому +27

      eyon brown exactly how can anyone be mad at someone successfully controlling their own destiny.

    • @alexmotts
      @alexmotts 7 років тому +4

      eyon brown technically he did he still had two years on his contract so he didn't honor his side of the deal he bailed like a bitch

    • @mondoeraymoore8375
      @mondoeraymoore8375 7 років тому +12

      eyon brown i agree , Deion should shut the fuck up!

    • @mondoeraymoore8375
      @mondoeraymoore8375 7 років тому +1

      eyon brown i agree , Deion should shut the fuck up!

  • @InFaMOus187NYC
    @InFaMOus187NYC 7 років тому +28

    "I had to get tha bag 💰” lmao gotta love Primetime

  • @chillvibes4345
    @chillvibes4345 7 років тому +72

    "I had to get the bag" - deion sanders

  • @jamesburgess2k
    @jamesburgess2k 7 років тому +508

    Deion is the last person to speak on being loyal to a team.

    • @abdiadenEST86
      @abdiadenEST86 7 років тому +141

      James Burgess Only that's not what Deion Sanders was saying. He is questioning the logic of Kyrie's decision. Not Kyrie's loyalty.

    • @SI-cd7xs
      @SI-cd7xs 7 років тому +35

      because he's a football player, no one but the qb will ever be a star. he'll never understand nba players desire to be the best and create their own legacy

    • @briansager3744
      @briansager3744 7 років тому +14

      Abdi Aden Deion won a ring with the 9ers and walked.

    • @BeeThaDon96
      @BeeThaDon96 6 років тому

      10,000 Subscribers without Videos really though

    • @jeffdarnell3154
      @jeffdarnell3154 6 років тому

      10,000 Subscribers without Videos yes...you ARE correct. He...AND Lane Kiffin..

  • @ShutThePuck
    @ShutThePuck 7 років тому +168

    Kyrie wanted to be out from under Lebron's shadow and also to get out before Lebron left. That teams not built for Kyrie.

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck 7 років тому +7

      you tube dummy control division Nah he's just doing what's best for his career. If Lebron left he'd leave Kyrie in a shit situation, and the chances of beating GSW are still low.

    • @msmarch33192
      @msmarch33192 7 років тому +10

      Puck How do you build around Kyrie? I want someone to explain a winning combination with Kyrie as the best player!

    • @bleezo2893
      @bleezo2893 7 років тому +7

      Puck honestly it's the most built for kyrie he's not a number 1 option on a championship team he can't dominate like that he's a great scorer but he's the number 2 option on a championship team I bet he won't win a ring with Boston idknif they can beat the wizards in 7

    • @ja1boi
      @ja1boi 7 років тому +7

      DeVante Smith thank you all these people saying the team ain't built right for kyrie well geniuses tell us how you build a team around a great ISO scorer who doesn't play defense. You build a team with him not for him. He's not that transcendent of talent to build a team for. Great player tho.

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck 7 років тому +10

      DeVante Smith You need a balanced offense with multiple weapons, Kyrie has to move away from being so iso centric and get the ball moving. That's going to be down to Brad Stevens and Kyrie's willingness to play in his system. It can't be about Kyrie as "the best player". He might be the one who comes through in the clutch, but he can't be expected to carry the team.

  • @bayarea510
    @bayarea510 7 років тому +857

    Niners fans got mad at u for leaving us Deion.

  • @zbib43
    @zbib43 7 років тому +38

    LeBron left Cavs 1st go around after his contract was up, left Miami after his contract was up. Kyrie gone it is what it is, but Bron never asked for trades to benefit only himself lol

    • @BernardBrunu1
      @BernardBrunu1 7 років тому +13

      zbib43 Bron lead the cavs to back to back 60+ Wins b4 he left. He left Miami after leading them to 4 nba finals and winning 2(he also won back to back MVP and FMV0). He far did Kyrie lead the cavs? He even got benched in the Pacers series during the 4th quarter and the cavs still won. Kyrie is having a record of 4-13 without LeBron in the line up since LeBron came back To clevalend. Kyrie can't even take over when LeBron rest on bench.

    • @zbib43
      @zbib43 7 років тому +5

      Bernard Brunu I have no problem with Bron leaving cous he gave his all both times around I'm not condemning him for that I'm saying atleast Bron stayed until his contract was up meanwhile Kyrie (who's really scared to face GS again) bitched up 2 yrs earlier than he was a FA to get traded

    • @sulekamara9656
      @sulekamara9656 7 років тому +1

      Lol here's another LeBron excuse. That's a new one to me

    • @marquiswolfe5145
      @marquiswolfe5145 7 років тому +1

      zbib43 Hold up. At least Kyrie didn't let his contract run out and suddenly leave. The Cavs were able to actually get something for Kyrie instead of Kyrie leaving them high and dry like Lebron did to the Cavs and Heat

    • @zbib43
      @zbib43 7 років тому +2

      Marquis Payden Cavs left bron high and dry, 7 yrs and his 2nd best player after him was mo williams, they never gave him a good team

  • @cloudedego
    @cloudedego 7 років тому +28

    people talk about this like Kyrie Irving isn't a GROWN MAN. this exact conversation and Deion's point of view is exactly why I believe he wanted to leave the Cavs, everybody at the table here is talking about him like he's a child! lol. Kyrie got DRAFTED to the Cavs as a rookie. don't forget he started his NBA career in the aftermath of Lebron leaving the first time. you don't really form emotional ties to a city in that environment. he grew up and decided to leave, start building the Kyrie brand. he went to the #2 seed in a very lopsided conference. plus, he's not getting the franchise tag with Lebron there, and why the hell would he want it if Lebron leaves?
    salute to him realizing the bigger LIFE picture and making that decision for himself and his family.

    • @michaelscott6357
      @michaelscott6357 3 роки тому +1

      The issue is that Kyrie wanted to be the man on the team, but now he's with KD and Harden.... He should've stayed close to LBJ like Gronk stayed close to Tom Brady.....

    • @cristianvillatoro785
      @cristianvillatoro785 2 роки тому +1

      He's not a grown man haha

  • @MsRiven1
    @MsRiven1 7 років тому +22

    You get shitted on for joining a super team and you also get shitted on for wanting to leave and prove yourself. The logic on the Kyrie hate.

    • @darkinferno1219
      @darkinferno1219 7 років тому +1

      LUC no one shitting on KD for leaving. He could've gone to Boston or even San Antonio or the Clippers. Its WHERE he went that's the problem. People that criticize LeBron for leaving, especially the first time are just stupid. Kyrie was being selfish that's why he's getting criticized. He had a dream situation in Cleveland, a team that can make the finals year in and year out. He says he wants to "be the man" yet says he would like to be traded to the Spurs, where Kawhi is better than him or the Timberwolves, where KAT and Butler are arguably better overall players than him.

    • @JaRHyCH
      @JaRHyCH 7 років тому +1

      darkinferno1219 LeBron had a dream situation in Miami and left. A team that could have made the finals every year, but he still left. Was he being selfish?

    • @ahmereware8063
      @ahmereware8063 7 років тому

      Ricardo Hamilton he didn't have a dream situation bro, Dwade and Bosh both declined every year.

    • @darkinferno1219
      @darkinferno1219 7 років тому

      Ricardo Hamilton To understand why LeBron left Miami you need to look up Pat Riley's take on how he felt on the situation. He basically says that he wanted to go off on the media like how Dan Gilbert did when LeBron left Cleveland. Riley took a week to calm down and put himself "in LeBron shoes" so to speak. Riley explains that when he talked to LeBron after he signed in 2011 LeBron explained to him that the ULTIMATE GOAL for his ENTIRE CAREER was to win a championship for Cleveland, his home team. Fast forward to 2014 and LeBron is going to be 30 that December. He knows the end of his prime is in sight and if he wanted the best chance to accomplish his ultimate goal, he'd have to do so sooner rather than later which is why he decided to leave Miami. Pat Riley even says even if they did beat the Spurs in 2014, there's a good chance LeBron leaves that year or the following year. Just look at LeBrons reaction to winning back to back with Miami vs his reaction to winning last year with Cleveland, it meant more to him he even says so right after.

    • @mrrickstur
      @mrrickstur 7 років тому +1

      I'm totally fine with Kyrie's decision, but i'm definitely not okay with Durant's decision

  • @TruuJones
    @TruuJones 7 років тому +74

    These keep using Robin as a comparison. Every Robin left Batman to be their own men.
    And while they are critizing Kevin Durant for joining forces with the super powers like Justice League, they are also complaining about Kyrie wanting to work Solo and not knowing his role?
    Hypocrites.

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 7 років тому +10

      Most people don't actually know jack shit about comic book characters. Everyone knows Robin is Batman's sidekick, but nothing beyond that. Ask Deion if he knows who Nightwing and Damian Wayne are, lol.

    • @blackanimelover18
      @blackanimelover18 7 років тому +5

      nahor88 Doesn't matter, in the end Robin is never truly Batman tho. He becomes his own man, sure, but he never becomes THE man. And he's always still coming back to Batman

    • @Timquan.
      @Timquan. 7 років тому +1

      David Jones The 2nd best player on the only team that can hold a pinky to the warriors suddenly leaves and u can't understand why people would be pissed off? It's not hypocritical. After what Kevin Durant did it killed any authentic excitement for the whole season because we knew they were gonna win from the Jump. Kyrie abruptly leaving only made things seem bleaker. Ain't no body trynna sit through a 4 year GS dynasty, any player that contributes to that possible dynasty will receive hate from fans.

    • @zachariah-binyisrayl5570
      @zachariah-binyisrayl5570 7 років тому +6

      David Jones Agree. Robin was the BOY sidekick. But Robin didn't stay a boy....and he didn't stay the sidekick all his life. Robin grew up...and then he left to handle his business as a MAN. Batman respected that. Kyrie is no longer Robin....he is NIGHTWING now.

    • @zachariah-binyisrayl5570
      @zachariah-binyisrayl5570 7 років тому +8

      nahor88 EXACTLY !! All the Robins after Dick Grayson respect Nightwing as the ORIGINAL and most trusted of ALL of Batman's partners. Nightwing is EQUALLY as skilled as Batman. Only those who know the comics know how important Nightwing is. He was Robin once...but he didn't STAY Robin.

  • @3AM_SHA
    @3AM_SHA 7 років тому +337

    why get mad at kyrie when lebron leaving anyway

    • @alexmotts
      @alexmotts 7 років тому +6

      SKA react because he didn't finish his contract he bitched his way out of it thats why

    • @verbalassassinator3756
      @verbalassassinator3756 7 років тому +22

      SKA react exactly. Bron stans are delusional

    • @dgib9449
      @dgib9449 7 років тому +7

      SKA react LeBron ain't leaving

    • @Oxytocin_
      @Oxytocin_ 7 років тому +2

      Ku Kutt THat's not tHe reason dumbass.

    • @TheTinyTimmyTimTim
      @TheTinyTimmyTimTim 7 років тому

      @dearstic your delusional. Both boogie and isaiah will be looking for max contracts next year. Cant max 3 players moron.

  • @aprildeath1015
    @aprildeath1015 7 років тому +21

    Well, Kyrie left, but Lebron still has LOOOOVE.

    • @sociallyawkward9633
      @sociallyawkward9633 7 років тому +1

      AprilDeath101 how long before we start hearing rumors about kevin love possibly being traded to help get Lebron more help

    • @jiggybah1304
      @jiggybah1304 7 років тому

      Socially Awkward96 Nigga fuck you mean Love trash when it matters how is that help? Is not 5 on 5 basketball?

    • @aprildeath1015
      @aprildeath1015 7 років тому

      Both of you, it was a joke... Kyrie gets no love? Lebron has Love? Never mind...

    • @Wavy_Godd96
      @Wavy_Godd96 3 роки тому

      @@sociallyawkward9633 lmao

  • @GG-fi5jw
    @GG-fi5jw 7 років тому +14

    2:56 - "I had to get da bag". - Deion Sanders 2017

  • @urbanninja313
    @urbanninja313 5 років тому +5

    Nothing rings more true now. Not as good as he thinks he is......

  • @utuberzanz
    @utuberzanz 7 років тому +58

    Y'all are adults, Kyrie can choose his own path smh

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck 7 років тому +14

      They really just mad he's leaving Lebron.

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck 7 років тому

      deharleyva Nobody said he can't win without Kyrie

    • @robinsam2135
      @robinsam2135 7 років тому

      +deharleyva but he won't win against curry and durant

    • @terrygreer6810
      @terrygreer6810 7 років тому

      Deon was dead spot on right SAS was wrong as usual but there are a few points to make here first no other team could offer Kyrie more money than the Cavaliers or the Cavaliers couldn't match that offer second any team that Kyrie went to if he wanted to win championships he would have to have one two or more Superstar players with him third if he thought LeBron was leaving he could have waited it out and the Cavaliers would have been his team all by his self I'm sure the Cavaliers would have gotten something for LeBron if he left fourth going to Boston he's not going to win because LeBron is still on Cleveland 5th point he was in Cleveland before LeBron came back what did he win 6th you don't have to like LeBron or any other player long as you respect them and get to the championship which he is not going to do 7th it seems like it was about eagle and money that Kyrie made this choice I think his father was in his ear it was really a bad choice it was his choice but it's still a bad choice

    • @mex_ranger
      @mex_ranger 7 років тому +1

      They just mad Lebrons chances of winning another ring went down. Kyrie plays for himself , he dont play for Lebron, he a grown man he can do what he pleases

  • @lenextowens6608
    @lenextowens6608 7 років тому +91

    People stay hating on Kyrie it's not that deep dude gone let it go 💯

    • @flexxkrueger7566
      @flexxkrueger7566 6 років тому

      Lenext Owens Get yo ass back on bandlab 😂😂😂

    • @larriors9124
      @larriors9124 5 років тому

      stop being a kyrie fanboy

  • @hotsteppa7337
    @hotsteppa7337 7 років тому +387

    Patriots got they ass whooped last night 😂😂

  • @michaelscott6357
    @michaelscott6357 3 роки тому +2

    Bro Primetime was right and its 2021.....

  • @christophergrandison
    @christophergrandison 7 років тому +105

    Stephen A acting like Kyrie was in an abusive relationship. The kid has a ring and has been to the finals three times - only because of Lebron's presence. Hitting big shots, scoring 40+, that's nice, but Kyrie seems to think having Gordon Hayward would have been the better option. He said as much in his Celtics press conference. He said he wanted Gordon to come to Cleveland and then Lebron showed up instead. He threw his hands in the air when he said this. Does anyone in their right mind believe Gordon Hayward, Andrew Wiggins and Kyrie would be enough to beat the Warriors. Give me your money now.

    • @bigdog9507
      @bigdog9507 7 років тому +14

      Christopher Grandison Now why would u want to go your whole with people thinking that your only success comes from playing with LeBron

    • @jcw034
      @jcw034 7 років тому +6

      Christopher Grandison are you implying that if you have success than you can't be abused?

    • @christophergrandison
      @christophergrandison 7 років тому +9

      No one ever put a knock on Kyrie's success because he played with Lebron; didn't have to, because it was obvious to everyone that Lebron is the #1 player on the team. Once rumors came out that Kyrie wanted from under his shadow, that's when the conversations began, like, "Wait, you think you're better than Lebron?" He's not. He'll find out.

    • @christophergrandison
      @christophergrandison 7 років тому +5

      I'm saying how is winning a championship and making it to the finals such a burden? What abuse was he taking? A couple of harsh words on the court or slick talk in the post game press conference? You know who verbally abused people? Kobe and Jordan. They'd call it encouragement, but Lebron is no where near that intense with his teammates. So it seems to be more that Kyrie doesn't get why everyone makes a big deal about Lebron, when he's scoring 40+ too. He'll find out, it's not just about scoring.

    • @iltercio
      @iltercio 7 років тому +8

      He couldn't even make the fucking playoffs, man! That kinda shit pisses me off!

  • @olaoluwalaifa5200
    @olaoluwalaifa5200 7 років тому +154

    You know what's so awesome
    First word ❤️😘

    • @WORKSbaby
      @WORKSbaby 7 років тому +20

      Gay

    • @MisterJay0623
      @MisterJay0623 7 років тому +24

      Just Sports Oh wow.......um.....*blushes* 😛

    • @jzoetheshit
      @jzoetheshit 7 років тому +4

      Just Sports this comment XD

    • @M8A1s
      @M8A1s 7 років тому +1

      Just Sports fucking L

    • @antoniohawkins3756
      @antoniohawkins3756 7 років тому +3

      😭😭👏thank you

  • @tytan2dope779
    @tytan2dope779 7 років тому +34

    The reason he left was that he doesn't want to know as a player who couldn't win without lebron! And do want be pair lebron after he retires. He wants his own legacy! Why is that so crazy???

    • @jalentibbs458
      @jalentibbs458 5 років тому

      That's fine to want your own legacy but now kyrie will never make it to another finals

    • @robderp
      @robderp 4 роки тому +1

      He wants his own legacy so now he’s KDs sidekick 😂😂

  • @JoseGarcia-rv5zd
    @JoseGarcia-rv5zd 7 років тому +40

    Kyrie got his chip want his own now

    • @yurhomi4478
      @yurhomi4478 7 років тому +1

      you tube dummy control division And? He'll be playing that team sport you speak of, ELSEWHERE.

  • @chrisakokoh9118
    @chrisakokoh9118 2 роки тому +2

    This aged well

  • @FOROW99
    @FOROW99 7 років тому +7

    Kobe to Kyrie: "Lose that dude he's holding you back, like the shack." Legendary

    • @youssefelallam5961
      @youssefelallam5961 2 роки тому +2

      Lol how did that work out for him :p ?

    • @chrisakokoh9118
      @chrisakokoh9118 2 роки тому +2

      He said that so Lebron wouldn’t pass him in rings😂

  • @WORKSbaby
    @WORKSbaby 7 років тому +22

    Kyrie wasn't appreciated he is baby mamba n he will prove himself

  • @dbb1722
    @dbb1722 7 років тому +112

    Kyrie gets no respect from Cleveland. Everything was because of LeBron. I'd leave too

    • @mattbean3340
      @mattbean3340 6 років тому +4

      Will Delaneyjr but u gotta put the shit behind u. Kyrie just wasn't a team player like lebron and couldnt face it

    • @jeffdarnell3154
      @jeffdarnell3154 6 років тому +11

      Will Delaneyjr EVERYTHING...in Cleveland....is about LeBron...even Baseball and FOOTBALL!! Now THATS.....sad...

    • @yomammasboo713
      @yomammasboo713 6 років тому +9

      matt bean LeBum is not a team player, Bronsexual he's a stat player😂😂😂That's why Kyrie got the #1 seed and LeBum got a bunch of L's

    • @stacykeller5237
      @stacykeller5237 6 років тому

      Will Delaneyjr

    • @Silverwind_23
      @Silverwind_23 6 років тому

      matt bean 😂😂 u lost in the sauce

  • @basilbonney3185
    @basilbonney3185 7 років тому +15

    "I had to get the Bagggg" 😂😂😂 Deion a clown

  • @brandonbarnett1658
    @brandonbarnett1658 3 роки тому +2

    Kyrie wanted to be the main guy…now he plays with kd and harden 😂😂😂😂😂😂💯💯💯💯😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @timothytaylor213
    @timothytaylor213 7 років тому +87

    Kyrie is going to surprise a lot of people...if he stays healthy a lot of people are going to jump on his bandwagon...he is special talent....

    • @yomammasboo713
      @yomammasboo713 6 років тому +6

      Timothy Taylor called it

    • @187mrsmith
      @187mrsmith 6 років тому +2

      Timothy Taylor yes sir

    • @FreakGoat
      @FreakGoat 6 років тому

      Fax all these bandwagons need to dip bet they was hiring before

    • @lebronjames-je3fy
      @lebronjames-je3fy 6 років тому +3

      If he stay health. I don't think so. He will be another D.rose watch.

    • @koollikedatt007
      @koollikedatt007 6 років тому

      jack Felipe ol pussy ass hater

  • @pedrojello8983
    @pedrojello8983 7 років тому +54

    Kyrie is right why not go against the best.
    he already won a championship.

    • @Blodia1990
      @Blodia1990 7 років тому +17

      PEDROJELLO I wish Durant had your mindset😁

    • @michaelwiley1649
      @michaelwiley1649 7 років тому +1

      PEDROJELLO kyrie go get his ass beat

    • @IAMUNUAMI
      @IAMUNUAMI 7 років тому

      PEDROJELLO...I totally agree. Namasté.

  • @michaelbeale154
    @michaelbeale154 7 років тому +13

    Of course he's done being robin. Man's wants to become the Nightwing of Boston

  • @leroyglam3920
    @leroyglam3920 7 років тому +4

    I don't get SAS. Batman let Robin lead the Cavs in FG% and usage rate. What else did Kyrie need? Was Lebron supposed to fuck him?

  • @enragedlez9676
    @enragedlez9676 3 роки тому +2

    Still bumpin 2022

  • @tigera6
    @tigera6 7 років тому +11

    I am sorry but I do not get where the hate and fury coming from against Kyrie. He never said hes better than Lebron, nor he can be a better leader than Lebron. He just wants to take his chance somewhere else. I am pretty sure that there has been cases where the 2nd best player left the team to somewhere else before. So why should there be so much hate on this guy? Unless because you are a Cavs or Lebron fan which clearly feel that way because he hurt their chance of winning the title this year. Other than that, the rest should just be quiet and let the guy play his game.

    • @SMohinder
      @SMohinder 6 років тому +1

      tigera6 Facts And look at kyries team now. They are gonna be so dirty next year when he and Gordon are healthy.

    • @raianalam4201
      @raianalam4201 2 роки тому

      @@SMohinder this aged so well

  • @jacobgraves8352
    @jacobgraves8352 7 років тому +4

    LeBron didn't alienate Kyrie, Irving blatantly ignored LeBron and admitted it. I'm still a fan of Kyrie but not as much because he acted like a complete douche bag towards the team the made him.

    • @PMKru
      @PMKru 7 років тому

      Mishael Bruce do You Cavs Insider?

    • @sociallyawkward9633
      @sociallyawkward9633 7 років тому +1

      Stephen Pentagon I do and he's telling the truth the cavs are a dirty organization I spoke to a few associates of mines who's close friends with kyries camp and one had stated that kyrie only wanted to be traded after finding that the cavs were trying to backdoor him by trading him for PG but unfortunately the deal never happened and eventually kyrie found out that Lebrons camp had some type of influence to trade kyrie for an elite pg like cp3 if cp3 didn't decide to go to Houston he probably would've been in cleveland by now god honest truth. How Lebron operates he befriends anyone who can help him look good but when he's got no more usage for them he orchestrates trade scenarios for his camp to persuade the cavs front office to give him what he wants. Just think how long until we start to hear rumors about Kevin love being traded for help to give to Lebron and these are the same guys that he calls best teammates and close friends just to have them traded for guys that'll help save his image

  • @anythingcrazy9582
    @anythingcrazy9582 7 років тому +4

    Lebrana fans are bragging that Kyrie is nothing without Lebron.
    Lebron left the team before the Cavs drafted Kyrie. So basically Kyrie can't carry that team because he's 18 and they are on a rebuild. Timberwolves got a lot of good rookies in the last 5 years yet they are nowhere near the playoffs. So you can't expect Kyrie to carry that scrub team after Lebron gave up on them.
    Btw, you can't compare the lineup of Cavs 2011 to 2014 (the team that Lebron gave up) from Cavs 2015 because it's totally different. So don't say that Kyrie can't win when he's the man on the team.
    Kyrie is 0-8 when Lebron sat during the last season. So why are you making excuse that Lebron lost the finals in 2015 because Kyrie was injured? Y'all are hypocrites Lebrana fan girls.
    And btw, Lebron should be 0-3 against the GSW if it wasnt for Kyrie.

    • @christophergrandison
      @christophergrandison 7 років тому +1

      So Kyrie is 0-8 when Lebron is on the bench and somehow that supports your point that he's the man.

    • @anythingcrazy9582
      @anythingcrazy9582 7 років тому

      Christopher Grandison Lebron needs Kyrie and Kyrie needs Lebron. That's my point.

  • @MeowTow
    @MeowTow 7 років тому +4

    Kyrie wants to leave because you calling him Robin.

  • @richardsong7732
    @richardsong7732 Рік тому +1

    😂 lol this poppin up in my feed now and nothings changed after 6 yrs

  • @juniorSun1
    @juniorSun1 7 років тому +20

    Y wouldn't kyrie leave all you cav fans think Lebron got that ring with no help when def kyrie hit that last shot tbh he is the clutchiest player on their team didn't get recognized for it

    • @CTHR333
      @CTHR333 3 роки тому

      the block was more clutch... lets argue😎

    • @Wavy_Godd96
      @Wavy_Godd96 3 роки тому

      @@CTHR333 how was that more clutch if they still had time on the clock? That was a written 3pt play attempt for kyrie to hit the 3 and he delivered

    • @CTHR333
      @CTHR333 3 роки тому

      @@Wavy_Godd96 that's exactly the point, Lebron kept the game tied 89-89, any points at that point of the game would've sealed the win... the 3 was great but in all actuality the block kept the game within striking distance. no team was scoring really, so an extra possession is really the key here. the block provided that. kept golden state from scoring, allowed the Cavs to get the play drawn up for Kyrie.

  • @sthao1733
    @sthao1733 7 років тому +7

    i agree with stephen a. lebron was defeated already. you can see it in his face and his body language before game 1 and after game 5. he already gave up.

  • @johnss2k434
    @johnss2k434 7 років тому +4

    Prime time is speaking the truth!

  • @kam5427
    @kam5427 7 років тому +4

    That moment you realize not only did lebron leave too, but Deion left too 😂😂

    • @theganzyboy
      @theganzyboy Рік тому +1

      Ill never understand why SF never offered him a contract after that SB win. Back then, some were saying Jerry Rice didn't like being overshadowed and went behind his back to ownership.

    • @Wh4L205
      @Wh4L205 Рік тому

      @@theganzyboyyou just answered your own question. Those are facts about Jerry rice. Him and Deion got in a huge argument in Miami the week of there Super Bowl

  • @swattingstars
    @swattingstars 7 років тому +2

    "I had to get the bag" my all time favorite Primetime quote

  • @TheNYKilla
    @TheNYKilla Рік тому +1

    This aged very well. Look at Prime in his high school gear on. He does the same for Jackson!

  • @carlossantana7556
    @carlossantana7556 6 років тому +5

    The way Kyrie looks right now they can’t even open their mouths. This man Kyrie is killing it!!!

  • @brashadcarr6759
    @brashadcarr6759 7 років тому +5

    SAS is a bandwagoner

  • @abali8588
    @abali8588 7 років тому +3

    Stephen A just a LeBron hater. Maybe LeBron turned him down to sit with him for an interview.

  • @nanoblulovaolution4856
    @nanoblulovaolution4856 6 років тому +1

    Deion is delusional. Why would Irving always play 2nd fiddle to Lebron???? Deion needs to wake up?

  • @evanerb
    @evanerb 7 років тому +2

    DEION CATCHING STEPHEN A IN HIS OWN BULLSHIT BAHAHHAHAH

  • @CJ-py8ns
    @CJ-py8ns 7 років тому +12

    These comments from Deion is the reason why Kyrie Left.

  • @jjkalid
    @jjkalid 7 років тому +17

    Sanders was saying straight fax. "he gotta understand that he's robin, he's not batman"

    • @jimmiehunt6433
      @jimmiehunt6433 7 років тому +5

      You right he is Robin so that makes LeBron must be the Joker

    • @sociallyawkward9633
      @sociallyawkward9633 7 років тому +5

      Joshua Farah Yeah well that's like telling someone you'll never amount to anything better so just accept where you are and get over it when in his case he's entitled to his own destiny he might not be as great as Lebron but that doesn't mean he can't still be the greatest pg in his division

    • @Ahmoddholland
      @Ahmoddholland 7 років тому +4

      Well, Robin eventually became Nightwing.
      I see Kyrie leaving as him transitioning into Nightwing.

    • @Christian-gj4uw
      @Christian-gj4uw 7 років тому +3

      It's probably because of ppl like you that kyrie left in the first place.

    • @mfhashmi991
      @mfhashmi991 6 років тому +1

      Joshua Farah looks like Kyrie is Batman 16th Win

  • @searching4pawgs495
    @searching4pawgs495 7 років тому +5

    Deion, Max ... we don't know how good Kyrie is .... YET. Did we know how good Steph was GOING to be? Nooooooo. I can tell you two things that Kobe and Kyrie have in common: 1). When Shaq went out of games, many times the Lakers offense became very sluggish. Kobe had not yet learned to be the no. 1, 'cause Shaq was here. 2). People didn't think Shaq and Kobe were 'close'. People said Shaq carried Kobe and Kobe would never win a ring without Shaq. These are things I know to be fact, 'cause I was there, and was in MANY debates about Kobe's value as a player. Now, does that mean Kyrie will ascend to Kobe's level? No. However, is Kyrie not extremely skilled, TOO? Did Kyrie not carry a lot of the burden, LIKE KOBE, too? Yes. So, it's up to Kyrie to write the rest of the story, but lets not act like Lebron hit all those shots for Kyrie. Kyrie averaged 29ppg in the Finals. Very Kobe-esque. He shot 40 from 3 and 47 from the field. Uhhh ... sounds like a big-time player to me.

    • @chillout3495
      @chillout3495 7 років тому

      Pawg Lover He will surpass kobe

    • @searching4pawgs495
      @searching4pawgs495 7 років тому

      He'd have a lot of shit to do to make that happen, but I would LOVE to see that happen. That would be one HELL of a ride to watch him surpass Kobe.

    • @lamarpalmer25
      @lamarpalmer25 7 років тому +1

      Pawg Lover kyrie was expected to be goid tho.curry wasn't

    • @chillout3495
      @chillout3495 7 років тому

      Pawg Lover The student always surpass the master

    • @searching4pawgs495
      @searching4pawgs495 7 років тому

      Not always. lol. Dude, Kobe has a very formidable resume. Kyrie will never surpass him in total points and scoring is the standard he will be judged by. Perhaps he can surpass him in PPG average, but that will take WORK. Kobe was an All-NBA First Team defender NINE times in his career. Kyrie won't be Kobe, but if he is going to be regarded more highly, he will need to play peak bball at a higher, more sensational level. If he can pull that off, I'm here to see it.

  • @Dre-xc2no
    @Dre-xc2no 7 років тому

    Don't bring Robin into this! Batman allows him to go out by himself, and drive the Batmobile, sometimes. LOL

  • @rfausta1
    @rfausta1 6 років тому +1

    “ I had to get the bag.”😂😂👌🏾💯

  • @evanerb
    @evanerb 7 років тому +30

    DEION IS RIGHT. KYRIE IS A ONE TRICK PONY AND GOT SELFISH

    • @bonitaboggan8432
      @bonitaboggan8432 7 років тому +5

      No. Very talented and gifted.

    • @josh70812
      @josh70812 6 років тому

      Brady Cheats who is Deion sanders kyrie going have more money than Deion when he retire shit at age 25 kyrie going more money than Deion sanders net worth is 40 million kyrie Finna pass him nobody knows Deion only known in America and kyrie bigger than him in America

    • @TheGloMann
      @TheGloMann 6 років тому

      Joshua Knight you’re probably 12 talking about “ who is Deion “

    • @marylakey4561
      @marylakey4561 6 років тому

      Deion is just another loud mouth that dont know jack, Cleveland did'nt win until Kyrie was healthy and playing! labron had his chance the year before remember when Kyrie was hurt and did'nt play? oh yeah Deion I still have that picture of Phil Simms running over you for that big first down , did you ever hit the tackling dummy in your career?

    • @SMohinder
      @SMohinder 6 років тому +1

      Kyrie played a huge part in the cavs and won them with lebron THEN left. Unlike kd snake ass. Kyrie just wants his own legacy and his team is hella good right now.

  • @zero1188
    @zero1188 7 років тому +5

    first people are mad because of superteams. now people are mad because people are leaving superteams. but then again its mainly cavs fans

    • @YEAHISAIDITPODCAST
      @YEAHISAIDITPODCAST 7 років тому

      zero I said the exact same thing. It's like you can't win for losing. Kd gets blasted for joining a super team. And kyrie get lamented to leaving one to win as the guy.

  • @CycleCruza
    @CycleCruza 7 років тому +36

    Kyrie messed up.

    • @ever6
      @ever6 6 років тому +1

      yep 8 months later he's injured and LeBron's going to the finals again

    • @rengemiyauchi8242
      @rengemiyauchi8242 6 років тому +9

      ever6 if he wouldn’t have been injured the Celtics would be at the finals and that’s fax if you disagree go back and watch the 2015 finals

    • @mememachine2357
      @mememachine2357 6 років тому +1

      I wish Kyrie never got injured. It will be nice to see him face off with the king.

    • @ever6
      @ever6 6 років тому

      of course the Celtics would be in the finals same with Houston but all the key players always get injured it sucks seeing a team lose and not everyone was able to contribute.

    • @newmedia7238
      @newmedia7238 6 років тому

      yet see what will Celtics look like next year

  • @DLBlckwl
    @DLBlckwl 7 років тому +1

    "And he just dipped?" Lol Deion. Perfect placement of an old phrase. 4:23

  • @michaeldiaz5551
    @michaeldiaz5551 7 років тому +2

    Deion you are one of my all time favorites, but bruh how are you going to complain about him leaving the cavs when you played for 4 teams... loyalty to a team isnt something you know how to do

    • @Chris-qh5tz
      @Chris-qh5tz 2 роки тому

      Deion is more like LeBron than Kyrie. WInning Championships with multiple teams and being the best player on those teams.

  • @rell1739ify
    @rell1739ify 7 років тому +3

    Stephen A in the best quarter back Aaron Rodgers Jersey

  • @elberttownsell2902
    @elberttownsell2902 7 років тому +25

    king James ain't no God, Kyrie do your thang ;-)

  • @jeffma4189
    @jeffma4189 7 років тому +3

    So a player wants to leave a great team to try and win on their own (Kyrie) = blasphemous. A player tired of not winning and joining a great team (Durant) = also blasphemous. Wtf

  • @JonathanSweeting
    @JonathanSweeting 7 років тому +1

    " I had to get the bag..." LMAO, Damn right

  • @christiantorres4166
    @christiantorres4166 4 роки тому +1

    Their wasn't a need for him to know he didn't have the horses with Isiah Thomas as his 2nd best player? 🤣 Stephen A is clueless. And is delusional when talking basketball!

  • @raynoallen564
    @raynoallen564 7 років тому +5

    Deion drunk

  • @justinstament6437
    @justinstament6437 7 років тому +6

    Deion seems kinda ignant in this convo.

  • @elberttownsell2902
    @elberttownsell2902 7 років тому +8

    Prime time left everyone, even his wife!!!! Lol

  • @1bobchin
    @1bobchin 6 років тому

    Kyrie is gambling and betting on himself 🤷🏾‍♂️ time will tell whether or not it works out for him. LBJ & MJ went thru a lot coming to the understanding you are only as good as your help and it took a while before they got the help they needed to win a chip. Maybe he got one so he don’t care about starting over

  • @oversteer6771
    @oversteer6771 7 років тому

    Why does max sound like he's gonna regurgitate whenever he says "that" lol

  • @MIDMAN.
    @MIDMAN. 7 років тому +3

    Robin did go on to become nightwing ya know🤔

    • @amira8070
      @amira8070 5 років тому

      AlphaBlackAce but knight wing still isn’t as good as Batman

  • @BornGiftedMusicGroup
    @BornGiftedMusicGroup 7 років тому +3

    Finally someone calls him out! Big mistake by Kyrie and all this BS about him taking his career in his own hands needs to end because he has another year atleast to see what happens.

  • @sjn5401
    @sjn5401 7 років тому +22

    Stick to football Deon

    • @orangefanization
      @orangefanization 6 років тому +1

      SJ N he’s right though. In any sport, it’s ALL ABOUT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP!

  • @greezymajor174
    @greezymajor174 5 років тому +1

    Whats Laughable Is Kyrie Think He Lebron Level

  • @reptilexcq2
    @reptilexcq2 7 років тому +1

    Damm, Deion Sanders should join the cast of the First Take. He's about the only one i can see that can keep up with loud mouth Stephen A. Smith and shut him up.

  • @912nelle
    @912nelle 7 років тому +3

    So basically Kyrie is sensitive and wants more attention....Bron is bout his business and keeps it moving...Kyrie ain't feeling appreciated but Bron like what more do u want man💁🏽💁🏽💁🏽 I sing your praises every year...I tell folks you're special....we ain't got to VIBE like that...Bron don't have to be ur best friend Kyrie

    • @sociallyawkward9633
      @sociallyawkward9633 7 років тому +2

      912nelle Yeah well if that's the case why is everyone so pressed about him wanting to leave ?

  • @amira8070
    @amira8070 5 років тому +3

    Well after this u know they right after the kyrie apology

  • @coolmoe3289
    @coolmoe3289 7 років тому +4

    Prime is right... All last season Lebron was trying let Kyrie take lead position of the team to gain MVP status..But it didn't work

    • @Wavy_Godd96
      @Wavy_Godd96 3 роки тому

      Not at all. You clearly didn’t watch the same cavalier team that i did

    • @coolmoe3289
      @coolmoe3289 3 роки тому

      I remember that Regular season Clearly...
      What I stated is Totally True..

    • @Wavy_Godd96
      @Wavy_Godd96 3 роки тому

      @@coolmoe3289 It isn’t at all, Lebron only says & does whatever to get himself ahead & his fans eat it up like hungry birds. In 2016 season Kyrie averaged around 24-25 points a game 4 rebounds & 5-6 assists a game that season. All the while Lebron supposedly gave him the keys to be an MVP ? You’ve gotta be kidding me, after Kyrie left. His season in 2018 was 2nd only behind AD for MVP candidate but got knee surgery and was dropped all together from the race. I’m a Kyrie fan & can tell you Lebron wasn’t going to give anybody anything. Kyrie left because he knew Lebron was trying to trade him. He tried to trade him twice.

    • @coolmoe3289
      @coolmoe3289 3 роки тому

      Bruh I get the Fact that you a Fan an All...
      But that season Kyrie was Still under his Rookie Contract Which had 2 years left..
      Kyrie Could Not Be traded.. Cavs still owned thr Rights to him legally..

    • @Wavy_Godd96
      @Wavy_Godd96 3 роки тому

      @@coolmoe3289 he still ended up getting traded later on after the 2017 season. Not saying they couldn’t do anything but the fact remains Lebron wanted him out period!

  • @jdm9700
    @jdm9700 7 років тому +2

    Deion hit the nail on the head but as a Clevelander I still got love for Kyrie. I hope he excels in his new home and knows that he always has a home in Cleveland.

  • @o.o-hassan5870
    @o.o-hassan5870 7 років тому

    the way the girl is just there and never talks lol

  • @MartyMMA1
    @MartyMMA1 6 років тому +3

    I think max and the other guy are tight. Kyrie is jealous of lebron and wants to run his own show

  • @Nite2012Mare
    @Nite2012Mare 7 років тому +10

    I'm tired of they CAN'T BEAT GOLDEN STATE...what was game 4 then??? Granted they didn't play their best but that was the ONLY game the Cavs looked like the Cavs...more like GS better add someone else because they can ONLY beat us when we beat us...

    • @treeznoforest9954
      @treeznoforest9954 7 років тому +6

      Michael Matthew 20 + fouls in the first quarter doesnt happen every game

    • @Nite2012Mare
      @Nite2012Mare 7 років тому +1

      Neither do record breaking numbers like we put up...K Love picked Boston to go off on, but the only time there was magic was game 4.

    • @jcw034
      @jcw034 7 років тому +2

      Michael Matthew the record came from the fouls. If you take away the outlier fouls they lose that game to GS and it is a SWEEP. If anything that proves the point. They had to shoot an incredibly high percentage, get the team into foul trouble, and make a record number of free throws in order to beat them. That actually proves their point.

    • @sociallyawkward9633
      @sociallyawkward9633 7 років тому +2

      Michael Matthew Probably the most rigged bs game I've seen in years but I must admit GS made some mistakes who knows they could've purposely lost gm 4 just to win at home

    • @Jthree47693
      @Jthree47693 7 років тому

      So one game in a 7 game series that they lost means they can beat GSW? Get real. The results will be the same next year. A sweep or 5 games. Cleveland isn't beating Golden State.

  • @ygftucdhjb
    @ygftucdhjb 7 років тому +3

    Cavs in 6

    • @6footplus708
      @6footplus708 7 років тому

      Deonte Savadge-Tynes dude plz don't start like last year Cavs in 4 then 5 then 6 then 7 warrios in 5 and in 5 agian in 2018

  • @TheJudgementofDog
    @TheJudgementofDog 7 років тому

    Deion Sanders of the Falcons, Cowboys, and 49ers complaining about people going to another team is like water complaining that it's wet.

  • @joselopez6990
    @joselopez6990 7 років тому

    The one thing that wasn't normal was Deion Sanders never tackled

  • @jeremiahbalbin9161
    @jeremiahbalbin9161 7 років тому

    Lmao his batman analogy didn't work at all. Robin left Batman plenty of times.

  • @TeW33zy
    @TeW33zy 6 років тому

    See what im talking about! Grown men complaining & dictating what another man doing and tbh they all wrong. Shit is deeper than all that BS

  • @welivelifewell1816
    @welivelifewell1816 7 років тому +1

    You're smokin' crack if you don't think Kyrie is close to LeBron. Bron is the best in the game, but stop acting like they would've won the finals without Kyrie. They damn near won it last year with him, if other guys would've showed up. Kyrie is top 5 in the league. The problem is he's not a facilitator. They need someone who can get the rest of the team going and Kyrie likes to matchup one on one too much. If his game is off, damn near the entire team will be off. Bron is the best facilitator on the team and he's not even the main point. Still picking Cavs this year. Thomas has something to prove. And Tristan is coming with it this year.

  • @JayHvrt
    @JayHvrt 7 років тому

    The first 30 seconds is HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂 Prime Time cant even get the words right

  • @brand1to
    @brand1to 7 років тому

    When Robin left Batman, he became Nightwing...

  • @ricardobochicchio7830
    @ricardobochicchio7830 2 роки тому

    Max is absolutely right! Kyrie is not that guy. Not even close. If you compare kyrie and lebron as a duo with kareem and magic and kobe and shaq, there is no way kyrie can be compared with that guys

  • @98savage73
    @98savage73 7 років тому

    Robin didn't wanna be a side kick forever and became nightwing😂

  • @dannyignacio2149
    @dannyignacio2149 6 років тому

    Irving is not Robin Deion Sanders is absolutely WRONG...

  • @nicholassewgobind2175
    @nicholassewgobind2175 7 років тому

    I like how they put the "world is not flat" ad for a kyrie video

  • @stayfly68
    @stayfly68 7 років тому +1

    So everyone is mad about these players joining super teams yet they criticize kyrie for leaving a super team?