Having done a few long journeys on XC Voyagers, I admire you for doing this journey. While I have nothing but praise for the train crews, I’m not a fan of the trains. There’s never enough luggage space, they’re always crowded, the loos smell & they’re now looking a bit tired. The train crews deserve better. They work so hard to look after you. As a Fifer, I’m obliged to point out it’s the Kingdom of Fife! 😂 Also, Lucy, my cat enjoyed the video too! 😸
I once went from Edinburgh to Penzance using a £56 rail/sail ticket from Belfast. Not wanting to do the journey on a Cross-country, the ticket allows to go via Edinburgh, and then via London. Using Seatfrog, I managed to go 1st class and back for about £160. I'd do it again, but from Belfast proper next time 🙂
Did this journey 2 days ago all the way to Penzance and it arrived spot on time. Pleasantly surprised at the quality of the journey, smooth train, great staff and wonderful scenery. At more than 13 hours it's not for the faint hearted as your backside complains by the Midlands but it was well worth it for the sheer fun of such a journey. I would consider it again but perhaps not for a wee while. I got first class at £62 which was around 12 pence per mile so superb value.
Virgin used to have them audio entertainment systems - wish they still worked! I looked at the reliability of this service a while back and noticed the train tends to terminate at Plymouth more than Penzance 😂 seems to have gotten better now tho!
Last week I flew into Heathrow and my connecting flight back home was from Glasgow, so I had to do 4.5 hours on train from Euston to Glasgow. Not a bad ride, quiet and a good selection of food and snacks from the cafe.
Hello Jessica, thanks for reviewing this epic train journey. In case some of your intrepid followers want to sample XC in the near future then it's worth noting that XC is revising its timetable between August 10 and November 9 owing to driver training. Details in the railway press. In particular the Edinburgh-Aberdeen section will be suspended during this time.
Yes, I considered mentioning this in the video, but when I looked at the online journey planners, it looked like it was still running the full distance but only on occasional weeks? Eg w/c 12th August it's running, but w/c 19th August it isn't. Of course there's a chance the journey planners are wrong, but I was just acting on the info I had to hand
1V60 0820 Aberdeen to Penzance was cancelled between Aberdeen and Edinburgh "due to an issue with the train crew" today (9 Aug) and yesterday (8 Aug). On Wednesday 7 Aug it ran all the way and was on time leaving Aberdeen and arriving at Penzance.
I crossed that journey off my bucket list some 50+ years ago, (albeit in the opposite direction.) Was in a compartment carriage - so that shows my age. Glad I don't have to do it again. Thanks for the memories.
Inter City is sorely missed in Pz. Reliable transport to most places without changing or going via London. Obviously terminating everything at Exeter or Plymouth is the future because of efficiency.
Ouch! The expense on the prices!! I used my DSB railcard disabled persons railcard 33% off and 2 months in advanced seen this journey for £55 standard £170 1st. But you can always add a seatfrog upgrade to get 1st class on top of the £55 then it works out around £75 for 1st class :) Great Vid. Im soon to try this journey..
Great video. If there was even good customer service around when things like first class aren't operating fully I'd expect partial refunds and complimentary refreshment vouchers.
I used this service when it was Virgin XC and it was like a radio and it would automatically stop when the annoucements came on as well as appearing to be on a loop. Aberdeen train station was indeed revamped not that long ago as it is my local mainline station.
As a regular on this train, most times from York down it’s standing room only, I’ve been in first when they have had to let people stand in the aisle, also not unusual not to have service for big chunks, have done Newcastle to Leeds without anything, including water offered. Also see again way to often not going up beyond Edinburgh or South of Plymouth, needs more carriages and 1st class. Side note where’s your jacket from? It’s very cute.
The main reason not to fly is the number of seats available on the aircraft, combined with the lack of available seats at the lowest quoted price and the not every day nature of the flights. On the other hand, going LNER/GWR via London is quicker, more reliable and cheaper than X-Country. You did well to get to Plymouth.
Hi, if I may I have a question I attempted to Google in preparation for a solo trip in December because I like to be assured - Do you need, when you're given a seat number, to board only the car with the seat, or can you just get in at the nearest door (especially at a stop where it gives you all of 20 seconds to get on/off so it feels) and just walk to the right carriage? Does it depend on the train? Off-topic, I remember a plane my parents and I took from Lapland having spent a week there in the early 2000's and they had multiple TVs showing multiple things and one of those headphone things. You're right that we've not seen it since but we've had personal portable entertainment for twenty-odd years I think. Next question, What's the music you had playing when you left Aberdeen station, that very nice guitar?
In most cases, you can board at any carriage and walk through. However, be aware that some trains will actually be two or sometimes three trains attached together with no way to walk between them, so try to make sure you at least board the correct portion of the train. But even if you have a seat reservation, you can sit anywhere that is unreserved, so even if you are in the wrong section, it won't matter too much. And most companies will have a carriage that is completely unreserved As for the music, its all library music from Epidemic Sound
This whole journey is why people don't like Cross-country, it's not the train model itself (although it's about 20 years overdue an upgrade), it's the overall service they provide. Never enough coaches provided therefore leading to overcrowding, unreliability of arriving at the destination on time or even at all, you aren't even given access to any lounges shared between different train operators, not one Cross-country lounge I've heard of in the UK, not to mention it's still seriously expensive!
I did consider using the ScotRail lounge at Aberdeen. I had a river ticket so was entitled to use it. But I felt that would be cheating! I wanted the experience that someone who bought a ticket would have got.
Those fares are astronomical. Expensive business traveling on some routes and “on demand”. Basically the Plymouth to Pz line is a branch line rather than a main line.
Possibly! I do know that it's actually 11 minutes quicker to get off this train at Haymarket, get Avanti to Birmingham then XC and GWR to Penzance. Which is weird, but it's 4 trains instead of just 1, so not as convenient 🤷♀️
Great video they really need to get the rest of the class 221 from Avanti will definitely help make them longer trains glad I don’t catch the Manchester train anymore it’s always 4 coach’s long or sometimes it can be 8 but it’s still not enough going through them big city’s the shell of them trains are signal blockers if you stand by the doors or near the toilets it works
Unfortunately, since you made this video, CrossCountry has "temporarily suspended" it's services to Aberdeen to strengthen services south of Edinburgh to 10 coaches more often, so the Aberdeen to Penzance train is now Edinburgh to Penzance. XC are also refurbishing their entire fleet soon, although sadly that isn't including any menu changes - Still, it is a really unique service, and I'd love to take on the challenge one day, really good video :)
That's not strictly true. This full route is scheduled to run on some weeks but not others. For example, it is running 12-16th August but not 19-23 August. At least according to the online journey planners anyway
@@TravelSoGood There an internal memo that got posted on various transport pages, that suggests it will not run at all until at least october - It's not been made a public announcement yet as far as I'm aware, so transport planners will still be going off the assumption that it still will run. Still though, if you are right, that isn't a bad thing!
@@TravelSoGood Hopefully. By the way, you are criminally underrated as a creator, I've been binging your new first class series for a while now. It feels like you should be a much bigger creator! Wish you the best :)
5 coaches from Scotland to Cornwall is a joke. Have been on cross country a few times and nearly Always end up standing. Also the prices are a joke you could fly across Europe cheaper. Great video as always look forward to the next one.
Some of them do, but most don't anymore - it depends on the company operating the train. But check out my LNER video and also the GWR Pullman video for what is actually possible! LNER: ua-cam.com/video/mTabYRSNEgw/v-deo.html GWR: ua-cam.com/video/gdWYwtkPSK8/v-deo.html
The GWR Pullman meal service is really excellent. To book you need to have a 1st class ticket, but usually there are some spare seats, and when there are standard class passengers can dine too - you just pay for the meal (£40ish iirc). Really impressive, and the way train travel should be. Crisps and shortbread aren’t really a substitute for this…
@@Roadent1241 built like that class 220 221 and 222 all the same 30 years ago it was not a big deal why they not replace windows in that time is the wonder
Did you get a lot of useful work done on the train? Would that swing the choice between train and flight? (Also Newquay is not Penzance so not direcly comparable.) I hope you got a good wedge of delay repay. Voyagers are notorius for having matalised windows that kill mobile phone signals. 13 hours on one train is journey I'd do overnight laying down.
Yup, I put in a delay repay claim. Only got like £49.54 because of the rover ticket I was using. It's better than nothing though. And yeah, you'd need to account for onwards travel from Newquay, but it was the nearest comparable location I got a large chuck of my "24 Hours on Ryanair" video done on this trip. I find it hard to edit properly on a train though, especially when I'm filming at the same time! I'm too busy looking out for things I should be filming to pay much attention to what I'm editing, lol!
I read the title and was ooooh how many carriages does it have to be the longest, also how do they run out of tomato sauce on the first meal they serve ? not sure i would have looked so fresh at the end of that endurance sport.
Flagship Service or FS experience? Based on the evidence of your journey, evidently the latter. Should Cross Country want to pay me a consultation fee I would be happy to consider advising them.
I'm referring to the longest duration in time, not the number of carriages. It's 13h11 in the current timetable (13h16 on the day I did it), but Caledonian Sleeper's longest route is 12h45 from Euston to Fort William
Ridiculous for XC to run such short trains, theyre always overcrowded even without issues elsewhere - bring back the HSTs. Sad to hear about the conductor kicking people out of first too, there should be a level of crowding where the train gets declassified
UK Train fares a a absolute rip off especially when compared to coach or air fares, I would have to be desperate to travel on one especially for a long trip.
first class i think with cross country is very basic same as transpanine exspress just a snak not what i would class as first class i and they have not had an upgrade since 2003 not worth the money i think
Transpennine actually do proper meals now. Well... on the west coast anyway. Not so much on their other routes. Check out my review of that! ua-cam.com/video/gwGfWkiQKI4/v-deo.html
I've found the trick with the valley lines and first class is to not buy a ticket that includes them. Instead, just find a ticket from Cardiff or Newport to where you're going. Eg Cardiff to Birmingham return is £186 with two advance singles, or £266 anytime return. Then just buy a valley line ticket separately :)
Great video. Ghastly journey. Easy to see why Labour wants to re-nationalise the railways. State-run couldn't be any worse than this travesty. Who knows? Maybe Cross-Country is already a quasi-state entity anyway.
Really it's a pointless train, there are much better ways to travel between the stations on that service by train. On the other hand, run it in the evening as a sleeper and it would be a much more useful train
@@TravelSoGood bear in mind that the night Riviera and the Caledonian Sleepers are always over subscribed and that this train runs from as far south as you can get in the UK to almost as far north as you can get, and connects some places that both the existing sleepers don't. I'm willing to bet it would. Plus there's the marketing opportunities too. And for those who use this train for necessity it's also not travelling during working hours that way so less lost time for them as they can use it at night instead. The only way if it's not going to work is it it's run as badly as it is now.
Oh and probably less cancellations and disruption too as then it wouldn't be running through some of the most congested parts of the system at the most busy times. I think though that if it was a sleeper it should reroute a little to include Manchester
Having done a few long journeys on XC Voyagers, I admire you for doing this journey. While I have nothing but praise for the train crews, I’m not a fan of the trains. There’s never enough luggage space, they’re always crowded, the loos smell & they’re now looking a bit tired. The train crews deserve better. They work so hard to look after you.
As a Fifer, I’m obliged to point out it’s the Kingdom of Fife! 😂
Also, Lucy, my cat enjoyed the video too! 😸
I once went from Edinburgh to Penzance using a £56 rail/sail ticket from Belfast. Not wanting to do the journey on a Cross-country, the ticket allows to go via Edinburgh, and then via London. Using Seatfrog, I managed to go 1st class and back for about £160. I'd do it again, but from Belfast proper next time 🙂
Did this journey 2 days ago all the way to Penzance and it arrived spot on time. Pleasantly surprised at the quality of the journey, smooth train, great staff and wonderful scenery. At more than 13 hours it's not for the faint hearted as your backside complains by the Midlands but it was well worth it for the sheer fun of such a journey. I would consider it again but perhaps not for a wee while. I got first class at £62 which was around 12 pence per mile so superb value.
Virgin used to have them audio entertainment systems - wish they still worked! I looked at the reliability of this service a while back and noticed the train tends to terminate at Plymouth more than Penzance 😂 seems to have gotten better now tho!
Hopefully it becomes more reliable. I'm just glad it got as far as Plymouth. If it terminated at Birmingham, I definitely would've cried :(
Last week I flew into Heathrow and my connecting flight back home was from Glasgow, so I had to do 4.5 hours on train from Euston to Glasgow. Not a bad ride, quiet and a good selection of food and snacks from the cafe.
Avanti's service is pretty good. I'll be releasing my journey with them in a few weeks' time.
Hello Jessica, thanks for reviewing this epic train journey. In case some of your intrepid followers want to sample XC in the near future then it's worth noting that XC is revising its timetable between August 10 and November 9 owing to driver training. Details in the railway press. In particular the Edinburgh-Aberdeen section will be suspended during this time.
Yes, I considered mentioning this in the video, but when I looked at the online journey planners, it looked like it was still running the full distance but only on occasional weeks? Eg w/c 12th August it's running, but w/c 19th August it isn't.
Of course there's a chance the journey planners are wrong, but I was just acting on the info I had to hand
1V60 0820 Aberdeen to Penzance was cancelled between Aberdeen and Edinburgh "due to an issue with the train crew" today (9 Aug) and yesterday (8 Aug). On Wednesday 7 Aug it ran all the way and was on time leaving Aberdeen and arriving at Penzance.
Still up to their old tricks I see?
I crossed that journey off my bucket list some 50+ years ago, (albeit in the opposite direction.) Was in a compartment carriage - so that shows my age. Glad I don't have to do it again. Thanks for the memories.
Oh wow! They don't run this all the way in the opposite direction anymore. The best they do is Plymouth to Aberdeen.
Yay! Here within 2 minutes of going live! 😮
Hope you enjoyed it :)
@TravelSoGood it's was great! I did feel for those passengers who were downgraded to standard, though 🥲
Back in the 90s when the voyagers were owned by Virgin trains you got Virgin FM on those headphone ports next to the seats
If CrossCountry used the HSTs on the Aberdeen to Penzance service that would be so much better
Inter City is sorely missed in Pz. Reliable transport to most places without changing or going via London. Obviously terminating everything at Exeter or Plymouth is the future because of efficiency.
Ouch! The expense on the prices!!
I used my DSB railcard disabled persons railcard 33% off and 2 months in advanced seen this journey for £55 standard £170 1st.
But you can always add a seatfrog upgrade to get 1st class on top of the £55 then it works out around £75 for 1st class :)
Great Vid. Im soon to try this journey..
Have fun, hopefully you'll make it all the way!
@TravelSoGood cheers 😊 I'm sure I will I do love a good long journey 😎
A great video. I have been looking to do this journey for a long time but don’t have a lot of luck in general. One day I hope.
Good luck with it. I hope you enjoy it when you get to it 👍
Thanks that was a very enjoyable video 👍
Thanks 👍
Great video. If there was even good customer service around when things like first class aren't operating fully I'd expect partial refunds and complimentary refreshment vouchers.
I used this service when it was Virgin XC and it was like a radio and it would automatically stop when the annoucements came on as well as appearing to be on a loop. Aberdeen train station was indeed revamped not that long ago as it is my local mainline station.
Interesting. I suppose the expense of maintaining the radio service was too high
As a regular on this train, most times from York down it’s standing room only, I’ve been in first when they have had to let people stand in the aisle, also not unusual not to have service for big chunks, have done Newcastle to Leeds without anything, including water offered. Also see again way to often not going up beyond Edinburgh or South of Plymouth, needs more carriages and 1st class. Side note where’s your jacket from? It’s very cute.
Haha! What a change of pace in the comment by the end, lol!
But I got it from Amazon a few years ago! Sadly sold out now 🩷
amzn.eu/d/gJLOqld
The main reason not to fly is the number of seats available on the aircraft, combined with the lack of available seats at the lowest quoted price and the not every day nature of the flights. On the other hand, going LNER/GWR via London is quicker, more reliable and cheaper than X-Country. You did well to get to Plymouth.
At some point I will have to admit I'm here for the tea/food/snacks rather than the trains 💚
Haha! I only did the travelling for the free food 🤫
Hi, if I may I have a question I attempted to Google in preparation for a solo trip in December because I like to be assured -
Do you need, when you're given a seat number, to board only the car with the seat, or can you just get in at the nearest door (especially at a stop where it gives you all of 20 seconds to get on/off so it feels) and just walk to the right carriage?
Does it depend on the train?
Off-topic, I remember a plane my parents and I took from Lapland having spent a week there in the early 2000's and they had multiple TVs showing multiple things and one of those headphone things. You're right that we've not seen it since but we've had personal portable entertainment for twenty-odd years I think.
Next question, What's the music you had playing when you left Aberdeen station, that very nice guitar?
In most cases, you can board at any carriage and walk through. However, be aware that some trains will actually be two or sometimes three trains attached together with no way to walk between them, so try to make sure you at least board the correct portion of the train. But even if you have a seat reservation, you can sit anywhere that is unreserved, so even if you are in the wrong section, it won't matter too much. And most companies will have a carriage that is completely unreserved
As for the music, its all library music from Epidemic Sound
@@TravelSoGood OK, thank you!
OKie, but what's the track I'm looking for?
www.epidemicsound.com/track/ogKRZME5mQ/ :)
@@TravelSoGood Thank you!
This whole journey is why people don't like Cross-country, it's not the train model itself (although it's about 20 years overdue an upgrade), it's the overall service they provide. Never enough coaches provided therefore leading to overcrowding, unreliability of arriving at the destination on time or even at all, you aren't even given access to any lounges shared between different train operators, not one Cross-country lounge I've heard of in the UK, not to mention it's still seriously expensive!
I did consider using the ScotRail lounge at Aberdeen. I had a river ticket so was entitled to use it. But I felt that would be cheating! I wanted the experience that someone who bought a ticket would have got.
Those fares are astronomical. Expensive business traveling on some routes and “on demand”. Basically the Plymouth to Pz line is a branch line rather than a main line.
Amazing video, do you reckon doing Scot Rail to Edinburgh then LUMO to Kings Cross and finally GWR from Paddington to Penzance is cheaper?
Possibly! I do know that it's actually 11 minutes quicker to get off this train at Haymarket, get Avanti to Birmingham then XC and GWR to Penzance. Which is weird, but it's 4 trains instead of just 1, so not as convenient 🤷♀️
Very good video greetings from Ireland
Thank you very much! I hope to visit Ireland one day
Great video they really need to get the rest of the class 221 from Avanti will definitely help make them longer trains glad I don’t catch the Manchester train anymore it’s always 4 coach’s long or sometimes it can be 8 but it’s still not enough going through them big city’s the shell of them trains are signal blockers if you stand by the doors or near the toilets it works
Those old Avanti trains will definitely help, but tbh they need brand new trains to make it a better service overall
Unfortunately, since you made this video, CrossCountry has "temporarily suspended" it's services to Aberdeen to strengthen services south of Edinburgh to 10 coaches more often, so the Aberdeen to Penzance train is now Edinburgh to Penzance.
XC are also refurbishing their entire fleet soon, although sadly that isn't including any menu changes - Still, it is a really unique service, and I'd love to take on the challenge one day, really good video :)
That's not strictly true. This full route is scheduled to run on some weeks but not others. For example, it is running 12-16th August but not 19-23 August. At least according to the online journey planners anyway
@@TravelSoGood There an internal memo that got posted on various transport pages, that suggests it will not run at all until at least october - It's not been made a public announcement yet as far as I'm aware, so transport planners will still be going off the assumption that it still will run.
Still though, if you are right, that isn't a bad thing!
I guess we'll only know if/when it does/doesn't run!
@@TravelSoGood Hopefully. By the way, you are criminally underrated as a creator, I've been binging your new first class series for a while now. It feels like you should be a much bigger creator!
Wish you the best :)
Aww, thanks! It seems a lot of people are discovering the same since the subscriber count is quickly growing!
Jessica, I agree with you. Porridge is a waste of oat bread dough, in my opinion!
"Someone's been eating my oat bread dough..."
-Goldilocks (probably)
5 coaches from Scotland to Cornwall is a joke. Have been on cross country a few times and nearly Always end up standing. Also the prices are a joke you could fly across Europe cheaper. Great video as always look forward to the next one.
Flying is often so much cheaper essentially when travelling longer distances. It's ridiculous
Big difference between Cross Country and Avanti when it comes to meals 👀😂
There definitely is!
@@TravelSoGood absolutely shocking 👀😂😬
So important question , what’s your favourite flavour of Seabrooke crisps? As you seem to have tried all of them on your trip😂
Prawn cocktail. But I didn't eat those on any train!
And Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce is a close second :)
Don't UK first class serve proper 3 course meals anymore with a kitchen with chefs like they used to have many years ago?
Some of them do, but most don't anymore - it depends on the company operating the train. But check out my LNER video and also the GWR Pullman video for what is actually possible!
LNER: ua-cam.com/video/mTabYRSNEgw/v-deo.html
GWR: ua-cam.com/video/gdWYwtkPSK8/v-deo.html
The GWR Pullman meal service is really excellent. To book you need to have a 1st class ticket, but usually there are some spare seats, and when there are standard class passengers can dine too - you just pay for the meal (£40ish iirc). Really impressive, and the way train travel should be. Crisps and shortbread aren’t really a substitute for this…
the window have a covering that stop mobile networks reaching your phone you think they would have done something about that over 30 years
Oh, that'll explain it. But yeah... peel that covering off!
Why do they have that on, especially if they're not offering an alternative way to let your friends know you're running late...?
@@Roadent1241 built like that class 220 221 and 222 all the same 30 years ago it was not a big deal why they not replace windows in that time is the wonder
@@kevinpoulton Too much work and money?
£242 to travel first doesn't seem that bad when it costs £193 for standard!
Did you get a lot of useful work done on the train? Would that swing the choice between train and flight? (Also Newquay is not Penzance so not direcly comparable.) I hope you got a good wedge of delay repay. Voyagers are notorius for having matalised windows that kill mobile phone signals. 13 hours on one train is journey I'd do overnight laying down.
Yup, I put in a delay repay claim. Only got like £49.54 because of the rover ticket I was using. It's better than nothing though.
And yeah, you'd need to account for onwards travel from Newquay, but it was the nearest comparable location
I got a large chuck of my "24 Hours on Ryanair" video done on this trip. I find it hard to edit properly on a train though, especially when I'm filming at the same time! I'm too busy looking out for things I should be filming to pay much attention to what I'm editing, lol!
I read the title and was ooooh how many carriages does it have to be the longest, also how do they run out of tomato sauce on the first meal they serve ? not sure i would have looked so fresh at the end of that endurance sport.
I think the reason for no ketchup is:
1. This train operates on earlier service up from Dundee
2. Crosscountry isn't very good
What happened in new st that Day
CrossCountry happened.
I don't like voyagers when there pack should put more coaches on enjoy your videos
Flagship Service or FS experience? Based on the evidence of your journey, evidently the latter. Should Cross Country want to pay me a consultation fee I would be happy to consider advising them.
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Cross Country trains are not the longest trains, they are formed of 5 coaches, longest passenger train is the Caledonian Sleeper formed of 16 coaches.
I'm referring to the longest duration in time, not the number of carriages. It's 13h11 in the current timetable (13h16 on the day I did it), but Caledonian Sleeper's longest route is 12h45 from Euston to Fort William
Perhaps the title should read the longest journey time by train
It's not as catchy though! 🤣
Ridiculous for XC to run such short trains, theyre always overcrowded even without issues elsewhere - bring back the HSTs. Sad to hear about the conductor kicking people out of first too, there should be a level of crowding where the train gets declassified
At that point, all first class seats were occupied. Obviously I didn't film that because I avoid filming other passengers as much as possible.
UK Train fares a a absolute rip off especially when compared to coach or air fares, I would have to be desperate to travel on one especially for a long trip.
It's hard to disagree with you on prices. But purely from a comfort point of view, I'd prefer a long train journey over a long coach journey!
first class i think with cross country is very basic same as transpanine exspress just a snak not what i would class as first class i and they have not had an upgrade since 2003 not worth the money i think
Transpennine actually do proper meals now. Well... on the west coast anyway. Not so much on their other routes. Check out my review of that!
ua-cam.com/video/gwGfWkiQKI4/v-deo.html
Cross country 1 st class mega expensive ebbw vale to Birmingham new st £357 mental money !!! First class not worth that sort of money
I've found the trick with the valley lines and first class is to not buy a ticket that includes them. Instead, just find a ticket from Cardiff or Newport to where you're going. Eg Cardiff to Birmingham return is £186 with two advance singles, or £266 anytime return. Then just buy a valley line ticket separately :)
Great video. Ghastly journey. Easy to see why Labour wants to re-nationalise the railways. State-run couldn't be any worse than this travesty. Who knows? Maybe Cross-Country is already a quasi-state entity anyway.
Really it's a pointless train, there are much better ways to travel between the stations on that service by train.
On the other hand, run it in the evening as a sleeper and it would be a much more useful train
A sleeper would be good, but I'm not sure there would be much demand for it?
@@TravelSoGood bear in mind that the night Riviera and the Caledonian Sleepers are always over subscribed and that this train runs from as far south as you can get in the UK to almost as far north as you can get, and connects some places that both the existing sleepers don't. I'm willing to bet it would. Plus there's the marketing opportunities too. And for those who use this train for necessity it's also not travelling during working hours that way so less lost time for them as they can use it at night instead.
The only way if it's not going to work is it it's run as badly as it is now.
Oh and probably less cancellations and disruption too as then it wouldn't be running through some of the most congested parts of the system at the most busy times.
I think though that if it was a sleeper it should reroute a little to include Manchester
Still bad grammar.
Fixed it
I am about to watch this and I'm hoping you sat in every carriage so you could endure the 13+ hours 😂
Nope. I just made one seat very warm 🤣
Hi great video. As the train got busier, did the First Class Carriage get busy too?