In the game it states Deacon was a war vet whose whole unit got killed in Afghanistan, after that tried to find solace in a biker crew, fell in love then she dies on top of a zombie apocalypse yeah he's a little unhinged might be PTSD
Deacon starts out as such a paranoid lunatic that even though he does runs for both Tucker and Copeland, they don’t know where he lives. They have their suspicions (Cope specifically mentions the watchtower) but Deacon brushes it off every time. He won’t even talk about Boozer’s injury despite the fact that they would probably help. It’s only after Boozer is forced to settle down in a camp and has that anchor, that now Deacon has an anchor through him and both of them start to actually open up to other people and let themselves FEEL things.
One thing that goes super underappreciated is how Days Gone actually explains how everything went south. Most zombie media tends to avoid explaining that part.
Yes, and the best part is that explains everything in the same game. No need to wait for a sequel to actually know how the virus spread across the regions and who was responsible for it's creation.
Sam Witwer said in a AMA that the game is a "slow burn". After playing and beating the game, yeah I can see that. The game picks up as soon as you get to lost lake camp, then really pushes the story with the Southern region. I honestly prefer day's gone gameplay mechanics than story. Building up a bike and Horde fighting are my favorites in Day's gone. Building up a bike feels good, I wish more games had bike building (or just more biker games) and the Horde mechanics/fighting is amazing, managing resources on the fly and trying not to box yourself in, makes horde fighting the key selling point for me.
I like that Deacon is like absurdly amount of crazy and it's only been 2 years since the outbreak. Even characters in the Last of Us who have been in that nightmare world for 20+ years aren't that crazy. Though but I can't help but always root for Deacon the crazy man and The Booze Man. Also never forget Deacon wears his backwards baseball hat to his wedding. They show him in the game take off the hat before so it was possible in the tech. They just chose to have him wear a backwards baseball cap to his own wedding.
his entire unit was killed in Afghanistan he came back to get a break from that and reconnect with human beings by joining a motorcycle club which then mostly died then his wife died while the apocalypse was happening and now he spends all of his time alone probably in his eyes murdering people so I wouldn't say that it's that far of a stretch that he's gone completely insane in two years. I don't think that you should really use the last of us as your bar for realism. In reality it takes a lot less than any of that to drive a person completely insane. PTSD is a hell of a drug.
I dont really see how "Deacon is like absurdly amount of crazy" if the characteristics of his insanity are just; him talking to himself, being curt or using humor to try to bring brevity to a dark situation. These are traits you see in average everyday people. Considering everything that's happened to him his tolerance to trauma is completely inhuman, the only suspension of disbelief there could be is that he had experience's in the military from a young age but even then its pushing it.
@@TheBravery767 wait, talking to oneself is "crazy"? i do it to center myself, usually "listening to myself talk" to see if what i'm saying is dumb as shit to someone else
I love “FREAKERS” as a name because of how goddamn stupid it is. I think if they had some scientist dude talking about the zombies and Deacon Daysgoneman went “oh you mean the FREAKERS™️?” And scientistman replied with “what the fuck did you just call them????” it would go from a dumb stupid name to a brilliant stupid name.
Later in the game you can find a recording of two NERO guys talking about infected and one of them mentions that locals call them "freakers". The other guy goes something like "huh, i guess it can be helpful to know local terms for these infected".
@@albertzinger7132 personally I want the turn to the camera moment where someone goes “that’s such a dumb name you stupid biker” but I’m glad it’s at least not a universal term.
@@pyropoyo Now that i think about it, these names might be just Oregonian. Later in the game Deakon encounter a completely new type of a mutant and gives it a name right there on the spot. Maybe in other states (or countries) they are called zombies or something completely different.
Another game that features a complete psychopath is Henry from Kingdom Come deliverance. The game encourages you to be a chaotic neutral asshole who is only good on the surface and is a silver tounge opportunist. IF the player fools themselves into thinking that you could be a legit good person then the game punishes them in several ways by either cutting quests early, cutting scenes out like it's incomplete, or just gives you no rewards. With the way Henry is it almost feels like you're playing a true blue sociopath.
It felt like that game was made for you to be a true opportunist peasant that will screw anyone over to benefit Henry. I was going to be a Nobel knight and ended up being a scamming snake oils salesman that cucked the Guy who saved my life. Henry has no morality when he gets done stabbing a wounded guy and will go "feel a bit hungry". That's ice cold.
The world not bending over backwards to reward you for being a good guy (and often attempting to kick you in the nuts for it besides) actually made doing it more fun for me. There's something super satisfying about knowing you've done the best you can regardless of how much it can fucking suck.
i’ll pretend not to be too annoyed that pat basically never turns around like what he did with days gone, but Doc is able to say “it’s pretty gud tho” and pat comes on the podcast and says “it’s pretty gud tho”
I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this haha. Despite watching basically every CSB clip posted here, I almost always check my volume during the intro. Gets me every time.
Yeah, it bugs me too, but for as long as I can remember whenever I go into the comments on a CSB clip there's always at least one person complaining about the silent intro and Pat & Woolie have yet to change it, so I don't think it's gonna happen.
For a sony exclusive, this game had a very small budget. Its actually surprising we got what we did out of their budget compared to other exclusives. I gave this game a solid 8.5/9. Deacon being a character that talks to himself rather than talking to the player is fantastic because he's all alone in the apocalypse 24/7. Still super pissed at sony for not approving the 2nd game which left us with a big cliffhanger. Also, I dont think pat's ADHD is letting him actually pay attention to the story and deacon. Its a good story and deacon is a great character that really grows on you the more you play it. And the reason they arent called zombies is because they arent zombies, they're humans who got infected but are very much still alive as humans on the inside and still keep some of their human traits.
But 1. Pat is still early into the story by his own admission and 2. Even if they aren’t Zombies, that’s how the game was marketed and that may be spoilers. I don’t know. I plan to play this game after getting a good PC because of this conversation.
@@infernaldisdain8051 Yeah pat is still very early in the game which is kinda slow, i'll give you that, but it seems that he's not grasping anything that's going on in all of his negative remarks. I feel like he's following his chat (who clearly never touched the game) by shitting on it because of an employee of the company who got fired because he was a douche and anything negative he has to say about the game, the chat just instantly agrees with him and calls it a shitty game despite them never having any clue whats going on or whats gonna happen in the story. Pat is notorious for having bad taste in video games and game mechanics and now he's creating an army with his viewers that are scarier than the freakers because they're all becoming mini pats.
@@GinjerFour ...Most of the things he says negative about the game in this video at least, are about the bugs and how bad playing it on launch might be. He says one bad thing about the dev, but he specifically says that it's one person he had a problem with. He says that one chunk of the game might have been a repurposed tutorial, and he gives examples to explain his point and why it feels odd to play through that section. He does say something about the story that he was wrong about, but when Doc calls him out and explains that he's wrong, he concedes and allows him to take the reigns of the conversation. The conversation started because he admitted that he was wrong for writing off the game at first glance (like many others did) and most of it is praising the game in Pat's view, and he says that he enjoys the game, partially for the odd quirks that it has, such as Deacon being crazy, and how odd everything is. Doc does re-contextualize a lot for him as someone who has played the game to completion, but a good portion is stuff someone playing for the first time would not know early on. I also think you underestimate how often Pat's chat think he's being crazy, or too critical of a thing. You even point out that he is notorious for his bad takes, and a good portion of the people who disagree with him, watch him. I won't say that some aren't easily influenced, (because he is likely to have some based on purely how many people watch him) but saying that they are Zombies or Sheep is reductive at best.
@@infernaldisdain8051 I agree with you. Im saying he was stating some misunderstood flaws until the guest had to correct him on those things. Pat likes to jump the gun on everything. And his chat are some of the weirdest one sided people i've ever seen. Anything that pat says with a serious tone about a game is taken seriously by atleast 80% of his audience. He was talking bad about the game before he started it and the chat were just shitting on the game but as soon as he stated that he actually likes it after playing on his own time, the chat quickly changes their mind and agrees. That was my point.
@@GinjerFour Personally I have never seen that happen. I would say that either the chat on CSB is being weird, or maybe the people who disagreed with him about how bad it was didn't want to come out because they were afraid of being booed or something. I don't watch CSB live so I wouldn't know. But unless there were the same people suddenly flip flopping on their opinions (and even then I could see someone agreeing that it sucks until he said he liked it, because they hadn't played it and just didn't like the trailers and then feeling stupid so they agree with him fast out of embarrassment) I wouldn't go for chat being sheep on this matter. The only times I've seen Pat with his chat is his personal channel and from what I saw at least they were quick to jump on him for "bad" opinions, but maybe those were the exceptions to the rule.
I feel like I used to hear the term "Freaker" to describe a meth-head way back in the early 2000s and I assume that's where the term came from, but the idea of Oregon folk using 20 year old slang like a collective bunch of Boomers is hilarious.
This game is much better then people give it credit for. The gameplay is fun and addicting, you get multiple skill trees, multiple bases that offer different rewards, Decon is a great character to play as and listening to him talk shit under his breath every 2min is a giggle fest, the story starts off slow but really pick ups, it's very lengthy and rewarding to play its an 8 at least
I like how you describe things that plague modern AAA's as positives. Wow multiple skill trees! Wow bloated length that results in slow start! 8/10 easily!
Days Gone was one of those games that i figured was crap, but finally got around to trying years later when it was on super sale and i was bored. then i played it and, despite its flaws, still really enjoyed it, and felt bad about not buying it full price. then, more recently, that interview came out where the ex-dev is like "yeah, if people dont support a game _at launch,_ it doesnt matter how well it does over time. the corporate suits think that means it wont succeed, and _wont_ greenlight a sequel." he's super right. i _know_ he's right. that doesnt mean you should just buy every game at launch, hoping its amazing. but _not_ buying games is super damaging. Sony was _really_ serious about Days Gone. it was like their headlining game for a while there. and when it didnt _instantly_ perform, they dropped it like a bad habit. the problem speaks more to corporate mentality, than it does to audience purchasing habits. but we're still stuck in that grey area where we really cant know if a game is reeeeally worth it...but if you dont bite the bullet sometimes, really good games will get thrown under the bus. its super frustrating. especially since i REALLY want to know where Days Gone was going with its cliffhanger.
and while im here, my biggest take-away from Days Gone was how long a realistic zombie-war would take...but also how awesome of a game it could be. as a video game protagonist, Deacon is a goddamn superman and by the end of the game, you're still gonna have a hard time fighting some of the 1000+ hordes. and after you do, its gonna take a while to restock your supplies and ammo and stuff before you can go hunting the next. so when the game puts into perspective the fact that there are _millions_ of them that have taken over the major metro areas...like, holy hell...even an army of psycho-hunters like Deacon that could kill thousands per day, would still be fighting endlessly for _YEARS_ just to liberate maybe one state. it's why i thought the military angle was so interesting, and had a lot of potential. the zombie-war might actually happen. its what the sequel(s) could have been...until the devs went and decided "well OBVIOUSLY the religious guy has to be insane, and the correct answer is burn everything." **sigh**
This whole conversation mirrors my experience with Mass Effect Andromeda. Did not get the game at launch, watched people shit on it, got it much later with all the patches, and found a game that, while flawed, was still pretty good and entertaining. Jet pack was fun, I like the idea that nobody respects you because you didn't earn your title, it was just given to you, and having the freeform leveling system made Ryder busted af in a fun way.
I played the game on the ps4 for 11 hours straight when it came out... barely moved from my friend's chair for 11 hours. Got farther then he did and he had it for 2 days before I got to it.
My favorite thing of Days Gone to this day is when TheCuckening got very mad a woman reviewed the game to be a mediocre thing, and she actually hit on the notes Pat mentioned too. The dude never even played the fucking game when he was desperately trying to defend Deacon and the freak weird story.
I feel like I played a different game... I do think 7/10 is fair. But every mission being unique is a bit far, there's your typical clear the zombies, destroy the bandit camps, open the science room and whilst the hordes are fun they aren't always unique. That being said, they are well designed and much better than your cheap copy/paste ubisoft game, they are more fun. (Also the term Zombie sometimes has copyright issues depending on the medium.)
There're bandit camps that can go south if you start shooting if a horde is near by. The thing is the missions are kinda the same, absolutly yes, but because the world feels alive and always hunting you, you have to watch your surrounding and think on the fly that give you more flavor that your standard open world game
@@El_Rabbit It had enough variety with a map that felt like it was actually designed, I stuck around to beat it and had some fun but I wouldn't go out of my way to recommend it. Alerting zombies is just an advance on animals in far cry and then theirs stealth or gun options etc. It felt like it just did the standard things really well. It's a good standard game...
@@El_Rabbit Days Gone has a STALKER-esque vibe in the jank, but the world feels alive with A-life yes, the way you're handling a Monolith patrol then a bloodsucker comes to fuck over your plan of silently picking off the patrol feels the same way when a loud gun goes off in a mission to clear bandit camps then a horde comes in and runs you off your well-made plan, it's fun and spontaneous and i love it, and i can understand why the loss of control over the game's situations can irk people, but that's how things are
Radio Free Orogon isn't 'crazy complete nonsense' it's message is pretty fucking consistent. "Government Bad, Prepping Good. Guns Good. I knew all this was going to happen and none of you listened to me. I was right all along!" If you somehow failed to catch that in the first two or three broadcasts, then I have to wonder if you were even paying attention. Edit: Oh, and the screaming on his bike isn't an intended part of Deek's 'crazy guy' character, because he's obviously not intended to do that if he isn't moving. If you get off your bike, he says it at a much more reasonable tone, and it's not that crazy of a thing to say anyway. He's pointing out that for all of Copeland's whining about the government, the government has (as far as anybody knows) been dead for two years. Complaining about the government raising gas prices doesn't matter when money is worthless and you have to scavenge for gas. Deek is saying that Cope should shut the fuck up about how evil the government was and do something useful instead.
"Radio Free Oregon speaks to you, his chosen ones. You have been raised up from brutality, to kill the freakers who multiply, and are legion. To this end, I gave you the gift of the gun. The gun is good. Now go forth and kill!" [Paraphrased from Zardoz. Sounds like a weird movie but very memeable]
What I like about deacon is he is a liar. Given his reputation and experience, he had to lie to protect himself and his friends especially during the militia part. Unlike a certain ‘Joel ’ with years of surviving experience who straight gave up his identity to a bunch of stranger when his name is tied to killing their members.
On buggy, weird design choices, one of my favorite is in GTA5 Online. You pop open your phone to call your mechanic and deliver your car. So I do that and then go stare at a wall. Because the car isn't allowed to spawn on screen. There's no cool driving in from off screen animation, it just teleports into the world. So I face 180 degrees away from where I want my car to be.
Sometimes feel like I'm the only one who likes Days gone and Wished there was a proper Sequel it needed to finish the unfinished story. Its my favorite post ps2 Sony game. Sucks it came out in such a mess
Idk I personally never had this inner dialogue was more or annoyance than fear of the horde at most. From what I remembered I did like it but didn’t leave to much of an impression on me. Was like B tier AAA exclusive.
I wish I had been able to finish this game, but on PS4 towards the end it literally blew apart at the seems and every time I went through a tunnel the world on the other side never loaded and every quest broke.
“If death stranding is the hbo show this is the starz version” tbh I’d say more that death stranding is on starz and days gone is, at best, on the CW. Very fun gameplay though
Bullshit there's no repetitive structure. The Ubisoft tower equivalent is ambush/anarchist/ripper camps and they are ALL the same. Same with NERO checkpoints.
A lot of it's sales was when it went on sale is the issue. Most of Death Strandings sales was in the beginning at full or mostley full price. Both are not getting a sequel anyways
@@robertwallen1582 I checked 7th Best Debut of Sony Published game. Best selling in UK 3 Weeks straight. Best selling. Second best selling game of April beaten by MK11. Days Gone did well. In japan it had a bigger launch than GoW and Horizon.
@@sonicboomers122 If a lot of it's sales were when it was full price, then the Former director of the game would not have done an interview last month complaining that if people want sequels, then they need to buy games a full price. www.psu.com/news/ex-sony-bend-developer-says-if-you-love-a-game-buy-it-at-fing-full-price/
Days Gone is fantastic. It was obvious it was going to be good from the get-go. The fact that it got buried on release and had all this fake bad press come out about it right as it came out on PC is super weird. Like, i'd suspect a work, if anybody seemed to benefit from it. Also, Acting like a dude who GOT FIRED for being a shitbag later talking smack in interviews is somehow reflecting badly on the studio is stupid. Dude got fired. That means that the people in charge got rid of him. Why would you think his stupid views represent the company?
@@suplexthetrain This is just plain fucking wrong. It was fixed within a month of the launch, Doc even says as much in this very clip. I played it less than a month after release and there was not a single issue, graphical or otherwise. Doc played a few weeks after launch and also didn't experience any issues.
In the game, when you kill zombies, you collect their ears almost automatically. You can trade those ears in, at the camp of your choice, for Trust (unlocks more things to buy at that camp) and Credits (currency to buy things at that camp). Storywise, this is the camp offering a bounty on zombie ears, since this means you killed (presumably nearby) zombies, which makes the camp safer. Killing humans may or may not make the camp safer, depending on who it was that you killed. That's why they don't directly offer a bounty on human ears. There are bandits and thugs and such who cause problems for the camps, and the camps will often give you missions for "these guys shot at our people, go kill them for trust and credits." But that's based on - these particular individuals are a threat to us, so take them out.
The Developer, "DocSquiddy" sounds like a very interesting person, he isn't on UA-cam? Edit: I edited this comment, just so people don't miss the obvious "(edited)" word
Is it me or does Woolie always look like he's "done with Pat's shit" lately? Even if Pat isn't saying anything controversial or walking back on a previous opinion or anything like that Woolie still looks the same; like a married man in his 60's or 70's hearing his wife tell the same exact story she's told a hundred times for the last 40+ years.
have you looked at his face during his streams? I noticed he makes that face even when he's playing his shtick; fighting games. It's really hard to figure out what he really feels, which makes the good reactions much more cathartic.
I played days gone a few months back as it was free on PS5. Out of the two "big" open world (former) sony exclusives i'd take it over Horizon Zero dawn any day. I really did not like HZD.
Nah, I don't really think that Deacon is a character that is particularly sympathetic, no matter how hard the game tries to make me feel for him. The game doesn't do anything to really distinguish Deacon from all the people that he murders in The Shit. Like, really? We need to kill the Anarchists because they're murdering people and taking their stuff. Something totally unique to them, and definitely not what's been your core game play loop for the past 5 hours.
Here's the thing about Day's Gone. You can like your sh*tty games all you want, there's literally nothing wrong with it... Just don't try to force me to like something i did not really enjoy at all, specially by telling me how wrong I am for not like the thing you like.
@@Vash16xli Hey I'm allow to hate on this shit as much as you guys are allowed to like it. It's not like I'm calling you all morons for liking it. I'm just shitting on a game that's mediocre and people are taking it like i stabbed their puppy or something.
“If death stranding is the hbo show this is the starz version” tbh I’d say more that death stranding is on starz and days gone is, at best, on the CW. Very fun gameplay though
"Deacon St. John" has got to be one of the strangest names I've ever heard. Like... Imagine someone named Pope McCardinal.
It's a pretty good video game dude name tho, not gonna lie
You meet a character late in the game who goes : "Deacon St. John? Was your daddy a preacher or somethin? Jesus, what a name!"
Deacon Days Gone
Someone calls that out in game, like "you a pope or something, crazy name bro" (the guy I'm talking was high)
Didn't Telltale Walking Dead have a St. John family?
In the game it states Deacon was a war vet whose whole unit got killed in Afghanistan, after that tried to find solace in a biker crew, fell in love then she dies on top of a zombie apocalypse yeah he's a little unhinged might be PTSD
Woolie's face is going through every cycle Cole Phelps has when he's analyzing the questionable story of a perp.
Deacon starts out as such a paranoid lunatic that even though he does runs for both Tucker and Copeland, they don’t know where he lives. They have their suspicions (Cope specifically mentions the watchtower) but Deacon brushes it off every time. He won’t even talk about Boozer’s injury despite the fact that they would probably help.
It’s only after Boozer is forced to settle down in a camp and has that anchor, that now Deacon has an anchor through him and both of them start to actually open up to other people and let themselves FEEL things.
I absolutely loved how insane Deacon sounds when he talks to himself, it's the one thing that makes him a memorable character for me.
One I can relate to as well. lol
"Freakers" sounds like an 80s movie depicting a group of 50s kids talking about institutionalised patients.
The whole game is basically "please think I'm cool" lol
One thing that goes super underappreciated is how Days Gone actually explains how everything went south.
Most zombie media tends to avoid explaining that part.
Yes, and the best part is that explains everything in the same game. No need to wait for a sequel to actually know how the virus spread across the regions and who was responsible for it's creation.
"Hey Boozer, sorry I got your arm horrifically mangled and amputated.....
....so you don't need that shotgun anymore, right?"
Boozer: "Gimme dat back, for now"
He gets a fucking auto shotgun instead lmao
Sam Witwer said in a AMA that the game is a "slow burn". After playing and beating the game, yeah I can see that. The game picks up as soon as you get to lost lake camp, then really pushes the story with the Southern region. I honestly prefer day's gone gameplay mechanics than story.
Building up a bike and Horde fighting are my favorites in Day's gone. Building up a bike feels good, I wish more games had bike building (or just more biker games) and the Horde mechanics/fighting is amazing, managing resources on the fly and trying not to box yourself in, makes horde fighting the key selling point for me.
Damn doc really nailed the assessment of days gone. It feels good to see someone recognize the narrative points of the game and appreciate them.
I like that Deacon is like absurdly amount of crazy and it's only been 2 years since the outbreak. Even characters in the Last of Us who have been in that nightmare world for 20+ years aren't that crazy. Though but I can't help but always root for Deacon the crazy man and The Booze Man.
Also never forget Deacon wears his backwards baseball hat to his wedding. They show him in the game take off the hat before so it was possible in the tech. They just chose to have him wear a backwards baseball cap to his own wedding.
his entire unit was killed in Afghanistan he came back to get a break from that and reconnect with human beings by joining a motorcycle club which then mostly died then his wife died while the apocalypse was happening and now he spends all of his time alone probably in his eyes murdering people so I wouldn't say that it's that far of a stretch that he's gone completely insane in two years. I don't think that you should really use the last of us as your bar for realism. In reality it takes a lot less than any of that to drive a person completely insane. PTSD is a hell of a drug.
I dont really see how "Deacon is like absurdly amount of crazy" if the characteristics of his insanity are just; him talking to himself, being curt or using humor to try to bring brevity to a dark situation. These are traits you see in average everyday people. Considering everything that's happened to him his tolerance to trauma is completely inhuman, the only suspension of disbelief there could be is that he had experience's in the military from a young age but even then its pushing it.
@@TheBravery767 wait, talking to oneself is "crazy"? i do it to center myself, usually "listening to myself talk" to see if what i'm saying is dumb as shit to someone else
so my take on this is that clearly Pat never encounters an American Veteran in person.
As an American combat vet I can verify this is the correct take.
Well... It's almost like he lives in Canada.
@@diegomedina9637 he's been to America plenty of times when he was with SBF.
@@diegomedina9637 but I see your point
To be fair, you as a player don't know that background until you join the milita camp in the last third of the game if i'm not mistaken
I love “FREAKERS” as a name because of how goddamn stupid it is.
I think if they had some scientist dude talking about the zombies and Deacon Daysgoneman went “oh you mean the FREAKERS™️?” And scientistman replied with “what the fuck did you just call them????” it would go from a dumb stupid name to a brilliant stupid name.
Later in the game you can find a recording of two NERO guys talking about infected and one of them mentions that locals call them "freakers". The other guy goes something like "huh, i guess it can be helpful to know local terms for these infected".
@@albertzinger7132 personally I want the turn to the camera moment where someone goes “that’s such a dumb name you stupid biker” but I’m glad it’s at least not a universal term.
@@pyropoyo Now that i think about it, these names might be just Oregonian. Later in the game Deakon encounter a completely new type of a mutant and gives it a name right there on the spot. Maybe in other states (or countries) they are called zombies or something completely different.
And then you have the literal ones like Screamers
Another game that features a complete psychopath is Henry from Kingdom Come deliverance. The game encourages you to be a chaotic neutral asshole who is only good on the surface and is a silver tounge opportunist. IF the player fools themselves into thinking that you could be a legit good person then the game punishes them in several ways by either cutting quests early, cutting scenes out like it's incomplete, or just gives you no rewards. With the way Henry is it almost feels like you're playing a true blue sociopath.
It felt like that game was made for you to be a true opportunist peasant that will screw anyone over to benefit Henry.
I was going to be a Nobel knight and ended up being a scamming snake oils salesman that cucked the Guy who saved my life. Henry has no morality when he gets done stabbing a wounded guy and will go "feel a bit hungry". That's ice cold.
The world not bending over backwards to reward you for being a good guy (and often attempting to kick you in the nuts for it besides) actually made doing it more fun for me. There's something super satisfying about knowing you've done the best you can regardless of how much it can fucking suck.
"A make-believe place filled with meth addicts"
There is no better way to describe Oregon tbh
Sam Witwer is a godamn Oscar caliber voice actor.
If ride to hell didn’t come out days gone should of had that name
Honestly that would fit extremely well.
I had more fun with ride to hell honestly
6:50 "Gas prices are way down" Ah I see he's clearly insane
i’ll pretend not to be too annoyed that pat basically never turns around like what he did with days gone, but Doc is able to say “it’s pretty gud tho” and pat comes on the podcast and says “it’s pretty gud tho”
I love how awkward Deacon is when interacting with people. All the "Umm"s, "Uhh"s, and "Yeah... I guess"s I love it.
loved the dynamic that woolie and doc had on the podcast. their combined experience in the games industry made for a really nice discussion
The most in depth conversation with the least amount of spoilers, possibly of all time
I hate that the intro for these is dead silent. Like not even a muffled lightning/rainstorm sound? Come on. :0
I sure love 20 seconds of dead silence. Makes me check my phone to see if it’s still working! /s
I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this haha. Despite watching basically every CSB clip posted here, I almost always check my volume during the intro. Gets me every time.
I HATE IT SO MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yeah, it bugs me too, but for as long as I can remember whenever I go into the comments on a CSB clip there's always at least one person complaining about the silent intro and Pat & Woolie have yet to change it, so I don't think it's gonna happen.
Shout out to the Stalker reference, repping all my boys in the Cordon and my main man Neutral Stalker Rookie "Bogdan Jiggers"
For a sony exclusive, this game had a very small budget. Its actually surprising we got what we did out of their budget compared to other exclusives. I gave this game a solid 8.5/9. Deacon being a character that talks to himself rather than talking to the player is fantastic because he's all alone in the apocalypse 24/7. Still super pissed at sony for not approving the 2nd game which left us with a big cliffhanger. Also, I dont think pat's ADHD is letting him actually pay attention to the story and deacon. Its a good story and deacon is a great character that really grows on you the more you play it. And the reason they arent called zombies is because they arent zombies, they're humans who got infected but are very much still alive as humans on the inside and still keep some of their human traits.
But 1. Pat is still early into the story by his own admission and 2. Even if they aren’t Zombies, that’s how the game was marketed and that may be spoilers. I don’t know. I plan to play this game after getting a good PC because of this conversation.
@@infernaldisdain8051 Yeah pat is still very early in the game which is kinda slow, i'll give you that, but it seems that he's not grasping anything that's going on in all of his negative remarks. I feel like he's following his chat (who clearly never touched the game) by shitting on it because of an employee of the company who got fired because he was a douche and anything negative he has to say about the game, the chat just instantly agrees with him and calls it a shitty game despite them never having any clue whats going on or whats gonna happen in the story. Pat is notorious for having bad taste in video games and game mechanics and now he's creating an army with his viewers that are scarier than the freakers because they're all becoming mini pats.
@@GinjerFour ...Most of the things he says negative about the game in this video at least, are about the bugs and how bad playing it on launch might be. He says one bad thing about the dev, but he specifically says that it's one person he had a problem with. He says that one chunk of the game might have been a repurposed tutorial, and he gives examples to explain his point and why it feels odd to play through that section. He does say something about the story that he was wrong about, but when Doc calls him out and explains that he's wrong, he concedes and allows him to take the reigns of the conversation.
The conversation started because he admitted that he was wrong for writing off the game at first glance (like many others did) and most of it is praising the game in Pat's view, and he says that he enjoys the game, partially for the odd quirks that it has, such as Deacon being crazy, and how odd everything is. Doc does re-contextualize a lot for him as someone who has played the game to completion, but a good portion is stuff someone playing for the first time would not know early on.
I also think you underestimate how often Pat's chat think he's being crazy, or too critical of a thing. You even point out that he is notorious for his bad takes, and a good portion of the people who disagree with him, watch him. I won't say that some aren't easily influenced, (because he is likely to have some based on purely how many people watch him) but saying that they are Zombies or Sheep is reductive at best.
@@infernaldisdain8051 I agree with you. Im saying he was stating some misunderstood flaws until the guest had to correct him on those things. Pat likes to jump the gun on everything. And his chat are some of the weirdest one sided people i've ever seen. Anything that pat says with a serious tone about a game is taken seriously by atleast 80% of his audience. He was talking bad about the game before he started it and the chat were just shitting on the game but as soon as he stated that he actually likes it after playing on his own time, the chat quickly changes their mind and agrees. That was my point.
@@GinjerFour Personally I have never seen that happen. I would say that either the chat on CSB is being weird, or maybe the people who disagreed with him about how bad it was didn't want to come out because they were afraid of being booed or something. I don't watch CSB live so I wouldn't know. But unless there were the same people suddenly flip flopping on their opinions (and even then I could see someone agreeing that it sucks until he said he liked it, because they hadn't played it and just didn't like the trailers and then feeling stupid so they agree with him fast out of embarrassment) I wouldn't go for chat being sheep on this matter.
The only times I've seen Pat with his chat is his personal channel and from what I saw at least they were quick to jump on him for "bad" opinions, but maybe those were the exceptions to the rule.
Pats crazy talk recognizes crazy talk
I feel like I used to hear the term "Freaker" to describe a meth-head way back in the early 2000s and I assume that's where the term came from, but the idea of Oregon folk using 20 year old slang like a collective bunch of Boomers is hilarious.
I think the term you're looking for is tweaker which to be fair is very similar to freaker.
I just heard "freaker" and my mind went to an army of Freddy Freaker dolls ripping people apart.
This game is much better then people give it credit for. The gameplay is fun and addicting, you get multiple skill trees, multiple bases that offer different rewards, Decon is a great character to play as and listening to him talk shit under his breath every 2min is a giggle fest, the story starts off slow but really pick ups, it's very lengthy and rewarding to play its an 8 at least
Much better NOW.
@@shadowreaverrising1753 what better time than now? you can't see me, my time is now!
@@miguelnewmexico8641 Whatever you say, Cena! Ok, Cena!
But yeah they fixed it in the post.
It's better years later.
I like how you describe things that plague modern AAA's as positives. Wow multiple skill trees! Wow bloated length that results in slow start! 8/10 easily!
Days Gone was one of those games that i figured was crap, but finally got around to trying years later when it was on super sale and i was bored. then i played it and, despite its flaws, still really enjoyed it, and felt bad about not buying it full price.
then, more recently, that interview came out where the ex-dev is like "yeah, if people dont support a game _at launch,_ it doesnt matter how well it does over time. the corporate suits think that means it wont succeed, and _wont_ greenlight a sequel."
he's super right. i _know_ he's right. that doesnt mean you should just buy every game at launch, hoping its amazing. but _not_ buying games is super damaging. Sony was _really_ serious about Days Gone. it was like their headlining game for a while there. and when it didnt _instantly_ perform, they dropped it like a bad habit.
the problem speaks more to corporate mentality, than it does to audience purchasing habits. but we're still stuck in that grey area where we really cant know if a game is reeeeally worth it...but if you dont bite the bullet sometimes, really good games will get thrown under the bus. its super frustrating. especially since i REALLY want to know where Days Gone was going with its cliffhanger.
and while im here, my biggest take-away from Days Gone was how long a realistic zombie-war would take...but also how awesome of a game it could be.
as a video game protagonist, Deacon is a goddamn superman and by the end of the game, you're still gonna have a hard time fighting some of the 1000+ hordes. and after you do, its gonna take a while to restock your supplies and ammo and stuff before you can go hunting the next. so when the game puts into perspective the fact that there are _millions_ of them that have taken over the major metro areas...like, holy hell...even an army of psycho-hunters like Deacon that could kill thousands per day, would still be fighting endlessly for _YEARS_ just to liberate maybe one state.
it's why i thought the military angle was so interesting, and had a lot of potential. the zombie-war might actually happen. its what the sequel(s) could have been...until the devs went and decided "well OBVIOUSLY the religious guy has to be insane, and the correct answer is burn everything." **sigh**
As a natural born Oregonian who lived through the meth boom and now we have the homeless problem we have more meth than ever before
This whole conversation mirrors my experience with Mass Effect Andromeda.
Did not get the game at launch, watched people shit on it, got it much later with all the patches, and found a game that, while flawed, was still pretty good and entertaining.
Jet pack was fun, I like the idea that nobody respects you because you didn't earn your title, it was just given to you, and having the freeform leveling system made Ryder busted af in a fun way.
I had some fun. Didn't run into many bugs. I just mostly got bored and fell off of it. Lots of peer pressure to hate it and meme on it didn't help.
I got it for free and still can’t bring myself to look at it
It's kinda interesting. That I'm certain that the zombies aren't undead. They hunt for food. They go and drink from rivers. It's cool.
I'm so happy Pat got fucking shown for only looking at surface level stuff with such a negative outlook.
I really hated the game at first because of the trash weapons but after getting a level 3 weapon, my experience got better.
I played the game on the ps4 for 11 hours straight when it came out... barely moved from my friend's chair for 11 hours. Got farther then he did and he had it for 2 days before I got to it.
I like this doc fella, he's alright
Fucking fair play to Witwer because he made this game so much more interesting than it had any right to be for me.
Castle Super Beast Clips: Days [GONE NARRATIVE] [HIS WIFE DIED]
If you've ever lived west of the Rockies and east of I-5, you probably know a Deacon St. John.
lil giefy nomming on his arm I CANT DEAL
I'm kinda anxious here about what course pat's takes will get, considering how much I loved the game.
My favorite thing of Days Gone to this day is when TheCuckening got very mad a woman reviewed the game to be a mediocre thing, and she actually hit on the notes Pat mentioned too. The dude never even played the fucking game when he was desperately trying to defend Deacon and the freak weird story.
Who the fuck is the TheCuckening ?
@@Dungpie64 He’s probably referring to TheQuartering
From my experience... If The Quarterpounder is 100% behind a game without even played it then the game is not worth it at all.
I feel like I played a different game... I do think 7/10 is fair. But every mission being unique is a bit far, there's your typical clear the zombies, destroy the bandit camps, open the science room and whilst the hordes are fun they aren't always unique. That being said, they are well designed and much better than your cheap copy/paste ubisoft game, they are more fun.
(Also the term Zombie sometimes has copyright issues depending on the medium.)
There're bandit camps that can go south if you start shooting if a horde is near by. The thing is the missions are kinda the same, absolutly yes, but because the world feels alive and always hunting you, you have to watch your surrounding and think on the fly that give you more flavor that your standard open world game
@@El_Rabbit It had enough variety with a map that felt like it was actually designed, I stuck around to beat it and had some fun but I wouldn't go out of my way to recommend it. Alerting zombies is just an advance on animals in far cry and then theirs stealth or gun options etc. It felt like it just did the standard things really well. It's a good standard game...
@@El_Rabbit Days Gone has a STALKER-esque vibe in the jank, but the world feels alive with A-life yes, the way you're handling a Monolith patrol then a bloodsucker comes to fuck over your plan of silently picking off the patrol feels the same way when a loud gun goes off in a mission to clear bandit camps then a horde comes in and runs you off your well-made plan,
it's fun and spontaneous and i love it, and i can understand why the loss of control over the game's situations can irk people, but that's how things are
Cougar man was fucking hilarious
Radio Free Orogon isn't 'crazy complete nonsense'
it's message is pretty fucking consistent. "Government Bad, Prepping Good. Guns Good. I knew all this was going to happen and none of you listened to me. I was right all along!"
If you somehow failed to catch that in the first two or three broadcasts, then I have to wonder if you were even paying attention.
Edit: Oh, and the screaming on his bike isn't an intended part of Deek's 'crazy guy' character, because he's obviously not intended to do that if he isn't moving.
If you get off your bike, he says it at a much more reasonable tone, and it's not that crazy of a thing to say anyway.
He's pointing out that for all of Copeland's whining about the government, the government has (as far as anybody knows) been dead for two years. Complaining about the government raising gas prices doesn't matter when money is worthless and you have to scavenge for gas.
Deek is saying that Cope should shut the fuck up about how evil the government was and do something useful instead.
"Radio Free Oregon speaks to you, his chosen ones. You have been raised up from brutality, to kill the freakers who multiply, and are legion. To this end, I gave you the gift of the gun. The gun is good. Now go forth and kill!" [Paraphrased from Zardoz. Sounds like a weird movie but very memeable]
i played Days Gone on my base PS4, installed on my external hard drive
What I like about deacon is he is a liar. Given his reputation and experience, he had to lie to protect himself and his friends especially during the militia part. Unlike a certain ‘Joel ’ with years of surviving experience who straight gave up his identity to a bunch of stranger when his name is tied to killing their members.
On buggy, weird design choices, one of my favorite is in GTA5 Online. You pop open your phone to call your mechanic and deliver your car. So I do that and then go stare at a wall. Because the car isn't allowed to spawn on screen. There's no cool driving in from off screen animation, it just teleports into the world. So I face 180 degrees away from where I want my car to be.
Turns out it does, it’s just fights you on it
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat yea
The mechanic used to drive it to you but there was a bug where they would drive past you and keep going so now it just teleports off screen.
this deacon guy sounds cool i wanna play that game now
I-..I-… I like them being called freakers… I think that’s rad…
they're not "Zombies" they're People of Death (PoD)
well they call zombies "Puppets" in SCUM
Deacon’s in-game dialogue is so much that I looked for a Deacon speech audio toggle in the settings, in hopes of switching it off.
the Nite Folk are best zombies in any Medium.
Sometimes feel like I'm the only one who likes Days gone and Wished there was a proper Sequel it needed to finish the unfinished story. Its my favorite post ps2 Sony game. Sucks it came out in such a mess
Idk I personally never had this inner dialogue was more or annoyance than fear of the horde at most. From what I remembered I did like it but didn’t leave to much of an impression on me. Was like B tier AAA exclusive.
9:00 that’s not mud...
I wish I had been able to finish this game, but on PS4 towards the end it literally blew apart at the seems and every time I went through a tunnel the world on the other side never loaded and every quest broke.
“If death stranding is the hbo show this is the starz version” tbh I’d say more that death stranding is on starz and days gone is, at best, on the CW. Very fun gameplay though
Copeland is mostly right about everything tho lol
can we get doc as a regular guest?
I loved that game because of the hoards👍
Bullshit there's no repetitive structure. The Ubisoft tower equivalent is ambush/anarchist/ripper camps and they are ALL the same. Same with NERO checkpoints.
Last time I checked days gone sold better than death stranding
A lot of it's sales was when it went on sale is the issue. Most of Death Strandings sales was in the beginning at full or mostley full price. Both are not getting a sequel anyways
@@robertwallen1582 thought it was launch sales
@@robertwallen1582 I checked 7th Best Debut of Sony Published game. Best selling in UK 3 Weeks straight. Best selling. Second best selling game of April beaten by MK11. Days Gone did well. In japan it had a bigger launch than GoW and Horizon.
@@sonicboomers122 If a lot of it's sales were when it was full price, then the Former director of the game would not have done an interview last month complaining that if people want sequels, then they need to buy games a full price. www.psu.com/news/ex-sony-bend-developer-says-if-you-love-a-game-buy-it-at-fing-full-price/
@@robertwallen1582 Cause he is a whiny bitch. and Sony was also being weirdly strict about how much a game needs to succeed to warrant a sequel.
Pat saying someone has bad takes is funny considering pat is known for really bad takes.
Days Gone is fantastic. It was obvious it was going to be good from the get-go. The fact that it got buried on release and had all this fake bad press come out about it right as it came out on PC is super weird.
Like, i'd suspect a work, if anybody seemed to benefit from it.
Also, Acting like a dude who GOT FIRED for being a shitbag later talking smack in interviews is somehow reflecting badly on the studio is stupid.
Dude got fired. That means that the people in charge got rid of him.
Why would you think his stupid views represent the company?
Dude it launched on fire and was fucked for like a year
@@suplexthetrain This is just plain fucking wrong. It was fixed within a month of the launch, Doc even says as much in this very clip. I played it less than a month after release and there was not a single issue, graphical or otherwise. Doc played a few weeks after launch and also didn't experience any issues.
how is taking the ears of zombies less fucked up than regular human body parts?
It's simple human brain shenanigans: Not relatable to myself = I don't care
@@ricardomiles2957 more like a Sociopath's brain shenanigans
In the game, when you kill zombies, you collect their ears almost automatically. You can trade those ears in, at the camp of your choice, for Trust (unlocks more things to buy at that camp) and Credits (currency to buy things at that camp). Storywise, this is the camp offering a bounty on zombie ears, since this means you killed (presumably nearby) zombies, which makes the camp safer.
Killing humans may or may not make the camp safer, depending on who it was that you killed. That's why they don't directly offer a bounty on human ears.
There are bandits and thugs and such who cause problems for the camps, and the camps will often give you missions for "these guys shot at our people, go kill them for trust and credits." But that's based on - these particular individuals are a threat to us, so take them out.
See the game's story is decent until you hit the last 3rd and that one character receal undermines the entire game
Pat's obsession over PC bs is staggering. The difference between days gone pc and console is so minor yet he views it as a god send. Kinda dumb.
Days Gone looks like the most 7 out of 10 game of all time
#FREAKERGANG
Its the weekly Pat praises the game he got sponsored to play section.
"My favorite part of the game is when I was paid to play it"
He didn't praise it though. At all.
He didn't get sponsored to play it.
other than he played the game, absolutely nothing you said is true. congrats!
nah this time he just decided to like a game he thought was garbage because doc told him it was good
i'm just here to watch the dog chew on pat
So this game is just biker "The Happening". That movie is so trash, i love it.
No no, its not that caliber of bad lol
gotta love woolie not having played the game not knowing whats going on
every other episode amirite?
>zombie game
>open world
>good
Pick one please.
Dead Rising is good. But that has more personality then Sony's self serious bs.
I was a second away from purchasing this shit, then they dropped the freaker-bomb
The Developer, "DocSquiddy" sounds like a very interesting person, he isn't on UA-cam?
Edit: I edited this comment, just so people don't miss the obvious "(edited)" word
He's a developer.
@@unversedhero6028 Ah my bad, I thought he was a farmer. I'll correct myself.
@@rokudodamaza As if we can't see that you edited your comment.
@@unversedhero6028 I just told you 13 minutes ago that I'll correct myself. WTF.
@@rokudodamaza Oh well sorry about that then.
#freakergang
“so, days gone is a game-“ ad cuts pat off, giving me time to wonder to myself: is it?
Is it me or does Woolie always look like he's "done with Pat's shit" lately? Even if Pat isn't saying anything controversial or walking back on a previous opinion or anything like that Woolie still looks the same; like a married man in his 60's or 70's hearing his wife tell the same exact story she's told a hundred times for the last 40+ years.
His resting bitch face is very potent.
have you looked at his face during his streams? I noticed he makes that face even when he's playing his shtick; fighting games. It's really hard to figure out what he really feels, which makes the good reactions much more cathartic.
Freakers...so they became Big bad botty daddy Scott Steiner fans
I played days gone a few months back as it was free on PS5. Out of the two "big" open world (former) sony exclusives i'd take it over Horizon Zero dawn any day. I really did not like HZD.
Nah, I don't really think that Deacon is a character that is particularly sympathetic, no matter how hard the game tries to make me feel for him. The game doesn't do anything to really distinguish Deacon from all the people that he murders in The Shit. Like, really? We need to kill the Anarchists because they're murdering people and taking their stuff. Something totally unique to them, and definitely not what's been your core game play loop for the past 5 hours.
Days gone is just a better Last of us part 2 imo.
The moment to moment gameplay isn't very good so you might as well just throw it in the trash.
Bad take
Here's the thing about Day's Gone. You can like your sh*tty games all you want, there's literally nothing wrong with it... Just don't try to force me to like something i did not really enjoy at all, specially by telling me how wrong I am for not like the thing you like.
Maybe stop being an asshole to others that did like thw game... you know, some food for though.
@@unversedhero6028 Ohh no they started it.
@@diegomedina9637 You must be extremely bored to write multiple comments on how you hate Days gone. No one is forcing anything on you.
@@Vash16xli Hey I'm allow to hate on this shit as much as you guys are allowed to like it. It's not like I'm calling you all morons for liking it. I'm just shitting on a game that's mediocre and people are taking it like i stabbed their puppy or something.
@@diegomedina9637 No one cares that you hate the game. Spamming comments of basically different articulated hate is what we hate.
12:50 what a trash answer, Days Gone has no redeeming qualities what so ever.
you suck
@@pennyisdreadful sorry i talked shit about biedeo game you like
I'm gonna go play it right now.
What a fun talk
TealWolf26 idc
Days Gone is so shiet, you are better off playing something else
there's a reason you're the last comment.
@@miguelnewmexico8641 believe me, this the last thing I will care about today. I just shared my opinion in the comments section
Just like that Pat sold me on this game. Glad I got it on PS Plus.
“If death stranding is the hbo show this is the starz version” tbh I’d say more that death stranding is on starz and days gone is, at best, on the CW. Very fun gameplay though