Nobody has ever told me about isoflexing the mag side ever! I already have the primary clutch bearing I'm gonna be isoflexing, when i do that, I'll isoflex the mag side too, thank you so much, my sled is a 08 XP Summit X
Great tutorial Brother. I had my pawl let go on my gen 1 so I put a kimpex kit in and it failed after about 7 pulls. So now that I need to it again I will do my msg side. I know they say to use isoflex but I am not paying that price. I have a 100% synthetic shell product that they use in the super calendar machine bearings at the mill it’s properties are a little higher than isoflex I have been using it for 4 years now and no issues when I go out to the shop I will send you a pic of the tube. It’s about 100 bucks a tube but works great 👍.
Great videos but just wondering about the old grease in the bearing, does it just get forced out when you push in the new grease? Picking up a rebuilt 2012 MXZ XRS and want to keep up on preventative maintenance.
thanks for posting and looking forward to your 850 rebuild. Been keeping an eye on plugs for lean action all good so far. Would like to see where in the injection harness the problem was?
Followed the steps in your video. When I got to the point where I was installing grease the syringe wouldn’t push grease through the stater hole. Any ideas? Thank you. Nice video.
Have you seen 600 carbs leaking from the seal on the pto side? Ive got a 2020 with this issue. Going to remove seal repack and install a retainer plate
Keep up the good work. I'm new to snowmobiles and have been looking on youtube for good maintenance videos, so far I've not found much but I'm liking what you've been putting out. Correct me if I'm wrong too, but it seems pretty common for people to just sell a newish sled and buy a brand new one rather than do some basic maintenance to keep them going?
Thank you so much! Yeah it’s true I have friends that are like that lol. Keeping these things up is so easy and the off season is so long there’s like no excuse
Rolling bearings need space for the grease to move between the balls/rollers. Over filling will churn the grease which quickly overheats and the bearing is toast. Why have Rotax not run engine oil through the bearings so they dont need grease?
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Hi Bobby thanks for the great video! I was wondering if there should be lock tight put on the stater bolts to seal the case from air leaks that could cause a lean condition and possibly a burn down in the Mag cylinder?
Hi so I bothered you about 9 months ago greasing my mag side bearings . I'm in the middle of putting it back together and can't remember on the pickup coils does the green wire pick up coil on top or the blue? 07 Ski-Doo summit 800r p tec . thanks
Great video so what if I wanted to change that Meg side oil seal would that require me to split the cases again ? I did rebuilds a couple years ago on 05 800 ho & 07 800r summits.
@@bobbyrebussini1466 Thank you, I got my motor out right now on my 07 I had a bolt snap off the plastic housing and chew up my pickup coils and my magnet pretty good so figured grease why everything was out.
Thanks for posting this! I have a 2010 with 5k miles that blew up on me on the 6th ride after buying. I just acquired a 2009 same model that was a totaled chassis but motor looks ok. No idea on miles. Would you advise a rebuild no matter the circumstances before swapping motors?
How.long has she lasted since greesing both sides? Juat picked up a used low mileage used 800r etec iwill be swapping into my sons 8600 mile 2016 at some point soon. Will be greaseing both since before hand.
Quick question. On my old sled an new one there is like an slimy thic substance all over my belly pan and not sure what it is if it’s coolant or oil but I have notice a little coolant leak but not much . out of my 800r etec with 300 miles and my old sled had to about the same as my new one with 5000 miles. Any guesses? Have you ever heard or seen something like this. Thanks
good work. everybody shows the primary side. thats the easy side. thanks for showing how to do the mag side.
Nobody has ever told me about isoflexing the mag side ever! I already have the primary clutch bearing I'm gonna be isoflexing, when i do that, I'll isoflex the mag side too, thank you so much, my sled is a 08 XP Summit X
Thanks man!! Glad it was informative!
I usually judge the mag side based on the pto. If the pto is mint I don’t sell the mag side if the pto side is bad I sell the mag
Incredible resource. Thank you for posting these.
At 2:53 he is correct. I did lose spark because of it. And it was nightmare replacing a stator.
Great tutorial Brother. I had my pawl let go on my gen 1 so I put a kimpex kit in and it failed after about 7 pulls. So now that I need to it again I will do my msg side. I know they say to use isoflex but I am not paying that price. I have a 100% synthetic shell product that they use in the super calendar machine bearings at the mill it’s properties are a little higher than isoflex I have been using it for 4 years now and no issues when I go out to the shop I will send you a pic of the tube. It’s about 100 bucks a tube but works great 👍.
Thanks man! Aeroshell 22 eight?
Another good reason to add an oil injection delete kit long with conventional PTO and mag bearings..... And don't forget the 50/1 premex.
Like #40. That was mint. Never knew you could force grease through a stator bolt hole. Its been so long since I had to fiddlefk with one of those.
Wow that’s a big honor coming from you. You’ve been the man for while. Thank you!!
Amazing videos! This is awesome 👌
This is awesome, I’ve been debating on doing this to my XM. I worried this side would be a bear to do. Not bad, and great work filming it all.
It was no big at all! This was actually my first time doing this. Appreciate it man
I've recently got into snowmobiling and have a 16 XM. didn't know this was something I needed to do. Good to know
What if there wasn’t any left in there and 15 mL did not cause it to come out the relief hole?
What if the grease starts squeezing out onto the stator? This method will screw up the sled .
Awesome,, thanks for sharing. After 2016 what changed ?
Oil lube bearings on the 850s 800s discontinued
Great videos but just wondering about the old grease in the bearing, does it just get forced out when you push in the new grease? Picking up a rebuilt 2012 MXZ XRS and want to keep up on preventative maintenance.
thanks for posting and looking forward to your 850 rebuild. Been keeping an eye on plugs for lean action all good so far. Would like to see where in the injection harness the problem was?
Thank you!!
Excellent information, thanks a lot.
Thank you!
I thought the inner sealed bearings were the 2000 mile issue ????
What’s the resulting failure if not done?
TIA
What would this run at a service shop? If your not a experienced wrenching person probably shouldn't try this or don't have a torch
Followed the steps in your video. When I got to the point where I was installing grease the syringe wouldn’t push grease through the stater hole. Any ideas? Thank you. Nice video.
Have you seen 600 carbs leaking from the seal on the pto side? Ive got a 2020 with this issue. Going to remove seal repack and install a retainer plate
Keep up the good work. I'm new to snowmobiles and have been looking on youtube for good maintenance videos, so far I've not found much but I'm liking what you've been putting out.
Correct me if I'm wrong too, but it seems pretty common for people to just sell a newish sled and buy a brand new one rather than do some basic maintenance to keep them going?
Thank you so much! Yeah it’s true I have friends that are like that lol. Keeping these things up is so easy and the off season is so long there’s like no excuse
Great video now I am confident i can do the mag side 👍
glad to hear it!
Have you worked on fuel sensor issues or speedo issues before? Neither on my 2013 summit 800 work. Tac and heat gauge work fine
Probably the in tank sender. Easy resistance check. The speedo is probably the pickup in on the clutch side of the jack shaft
Rolling bearings need space for the grease to move between the balls/rollers. Over filling will churn the grease which quickly overheats and the bearing is toast. Why have Rotax not run engine oil through the bearings so they dont need grease?
they do on the 850s I’m not sure why they did it like that back then. All I know is I’m happy they don’t do it like that now.
And there are main bearings inside the motor which can’t be lubed. The local tech said it’s not an issue but seems odd.
@@fairbanksairriders well those aren’t perminant grease. They run 2 stroke oil like they should. Just like the 850s and all other anything lol
Oh ok. now im really goin holder wide open. ;-))
Do you have a link to the harmonic balancer you used?
Much appreciated and great video! 👊
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They can be rented at any auto parts store for free as well..
Hi Bobby thanks for the great video! I was wondering if there should be lock tight put on the stater bolts to seal the case from air leaks that could cause a lean condition and possibly a burn down in the Mag cylinder?
Nope! No need because there is an inner crank seal the bolts don’t seal anything
Just an FYI people, installing bearing buddy's on the engine will greatly improve the ease of this job.
True story just be careful not to add too much grease!
what is different after 2016? thanks for the video
850! Oil lubes bearings
@@bobbyrebussini1466 and what about 600 engine build 2017 onward?
Did I miss the seal replacement? Or was this an ill informed grease the pullstart?
That’s not how the mag side is setup. The tapped holes are thru into the bearing.
You’d have to split the case to replace the seal. See the other video I put out on the pto side
Hi so I bothered you about 9 months ago greasing my mag side bearings . I'm in the middle of putting it back together and can't remember on the pickup coils does the green wire pick up coil on top or the blue? 07 Ski-Doo summit 800r p tec . thanks
Did you depin the harness?
Great video so what if I wanted to change that Meg side oil seal would that require me to split the cases again ? I did rebuilds a couple years ago on 05 800 ho & 07 800r summits.
The inner seal on the mad side the cases will have to be split. There’s a dirty way to do the pto side crank seal without splitting the cases.
@@bobbyrebussini1466 Thank you, I got my motor out right now on my 07 I had a bolt snap off the plastic housing and chew up my pickup coils and my magnet pretty good so figured grease why everything was out.
@@sawmillingGarry for sure man. No problem!
Great vid. Is this something that only the 800’s require? Or is it something the 550f’s 600 carbs etc etc need too?
Thanks! Everything needs it except for 4 strokes and 850s. 800s are bad for burning the grease out of the pto side tho
@@bobbyrebussini1466 The 850's are oil fed?
Anyone know if this will work with the skidoo 500ss engine
What size are the three bolts for fly wheel that you used with the puller
Ehhhhw whatever ones came with the cheapest harmonic balanced kit from Orielly
My guess is m10x1.0
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same procedure on rotax 3 series? 2001
I think those are lubed using injection oil!
Thanks for posting this! I have a 2010 with 5k miles that blew up on me on the 6th ride after buying. I just acquired a 2009 same model that was a totaled chassis but motor looks ok. No idea on miles. Would you advise a rebuild no matter the circumstances before swapping motors?
Yeah I would. If the engine is out why not
How.long has she lasted since greesing both sides? Juat picked up a used low mileage used 800r etec iwill be swapping into my sons 8600 mile 2016 at some point soon. Will be greaseing both since before hand.
This was a customers sled and he sold it. Not really sure tbh
Quick question. On my old sled an new one there is like an slimy thic substance all over my belly pan and not sure what it is if it’s coolant or oil but I have notice a little coolant leak but not much . out of my 800r etec with 300 miles and my old sled had to about the same as my new one with 5000 miles. Any guesses? Have you ever heard or seen something like this. Thanks
Check the water pump underneath the y pipe and the oil pump on the opposite side if you’re not sure if it’s oil or water
@@bobbyrebussini1466 ok thanks will do. I was just curious because it oily on belly pan. But it runs fantastic
How many km do you recommend doing this on the bearings
pretty sure the interval is 2500 miles!
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