Buying a used snowmobile, DON'T GET RIPPED OFF! PowerModz!
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2018
- How to buy a used snowmobile, arm yourself with these simple rules for buying a used sled and you won't get ripped off - or at the least you will be informed!
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After watching this, I'm scared to buy a sled now.
You should be.
haha same, think I just got talked out of it. Reminds me of dealing with dealership if it is not brand new it needs to be replaced, but then he is like it is good sled. I'm like but you made it sound like needs 4k in work.
@@dustinwiggin9470 my sentiments exactly 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah I think I'm just going to hold off a bit
Just go look at the cost a new decent sled and you won't have to worry about the issues her points out in the video. You will walk away because of the COST of the new sled and won't want to take the chance on a used one. Have a friend in upstate NY who spent 14 GRAND on a sled 3 years ago and has hardly been able to use it due to the lack of snow. Get a jet ski or small used boat, there is always water :)
Man I love the intro video it’s great‼️😆
Hello Loui I’m Fred… my wife and I live in Florida and visited Alaska in March of ‘23 …
we loved it so much that we plan to move there hopefully by end of this year ‘24?
We went on a Snowmobile tour and had a blast! so I’ve been looking at sleds ever since… I’m 61 and a former Small Engine Mechanic however it’s obvious that I have never worked on sleds and have a ton to learn. Your video is a very helpful buying and maintenance guide that I will rewatch again many times.
Thank you for your time in making this video.
Frederick Tanner 👍😎👍
Amazing video! I Learned lots Louie - even for older 2-smoke sleds the same mechanical principals apply. Really appreciated this vid brother. Cheers...oh, and let it friggin' snow! LOL
Lots of great ideas, thanks.I'll keep that in mind.
You should look at the tool kit as well make sure everything is there. I also take a look inside the air box to see if there is anything laying in the bottom.
talking about "These older machines".... the newest sled I've ever had was a 1989. i'm dirt poor.
coolbluelights same I have a fricken 1980 😂 still runs great though, tough as nails
We got three sleds. Oldest one is an 89 newest is a 1992. They all run great
My oldest is 89 my newest is 95
i can beat that got a free snowmobile and it was a 1979 Polaris Gemini old and fun but the hood is smashed to pieces but a good sled
Nothing wrong with an older sled. :)
I definitely like all the videos you put out and appreciate all the hard work you guys do. That being said a lot of what you point out to be wrong with the machine can just be wear and tear from age and usage. It’s why a used machine is $2500. If everything was in perfect condition then it would be much more expensive. I don’t mean to criticize because I know the intent of the video, I’m just saying in that price point these are the things your going to find. And not a deduction in actual value. Keep up the good work guys
Goddamn best review on how to buy yourself a snowmobile.
I haven't seen more detailed ones, very useful.
Curse God. Then go ride in the beautiful mountains he made. Good luck brother.
i just bought a 94 Ski doo mach z 780 for 500 dollars and it runs and drive!! so happy i got to try it out this week in the snow
I bought a old Kawasaki 440 snowmobile for $475 drove the heck out of it until it blew up
You should do a what to look for when buying a used iqr or even a used race sled!!
My son and I bought two 2006 Ski Doo gsx 500 ss's the past few months. Mine 4800 miles, my son's 1600. This was a super helpful video. Owner of my sled was firm on price, then I noticed the runners were completely gone and battery was low. Took $200 off because the runners were non existent. I wouldn't have known to ask. My son's sled was original owner with only 1600 miles, the carb boots were torn. I got him $300 off the price for that one. Both are in super condition, but I still put $500 into mine just for things I wanted, new belts, bearings, tunnel bag, oil case change, adds up. This video was spot on.
Sick video powermodz perfect sunday morning show waiting for that snow!
Been riding for 4 years now, and even still this video was very informative, great job guys!
I'm about to buy an 04 rmk 800 for 900 bucks - it has been sitting in a trailer for years, under 1000 miles. Awesome "barn find" if you will. This video was very helpful. Thanks!
Looking at a damaged sled. Don't know if I want to dig into a total rebuild but If compression is good and nun is not needing replacement you have inspired me to have at it.
Earned a sub,very thorough guy.i like it.keep us informed and protected from RIP off buys.
Thanks for the information. I'm a vintage guy with older snowmobiles, pre 2004 sleds. I'm starting to like the way the older sleds were designed - simple designs and low budget DIY sleds. But, eventually I'm going to have to buy the newer sleds, and it seems scary to think of the kind of money and time required to fix up the newer sleds. The best bet is to avoid the trashed out sleds with the hidden issues. I agree, wait for the good deals and check the sleds out good first - all great suggestions!
Yeah, well the -91 doo sled i bought for 50€ had 8K km and well known history. Old, little driven, but maintenance was lacking as well, but nothing expensive so it probably will last what i'm driving it on my life time. Its sad that quality had dropped so much over the couple decades. Then again making your own simple sled is made pretty easy these days if you are not going anywhere that tough.
Trashed out sled is not big issue, long as the price is right.
Thanks for the overview. I appreciate it!!
I just buy them cheap and ride them. I'm not looking for perfection. I warm them up before i ride them and i don't ride the shit out of them all the time. I just want to have some fun in this great Canadian winter wonderland!
Greetings from the Sandilands forest in Manitoba :) I'm the same way. I don't need to wreck my sled every time I go out to have fun.
Warming them up is so important,people will warm their cars for 20min.,but start their sled and jump right on it at -20 and wonder why it blows to pieces.
Couldn’t say it better myself this is how I feel about sleds. I don’t get out often so I don’t need a crazy sled just something to rip on for winter. I enjoy my quad and sxs a lot more
Weird flex but ok
longboardguy huh. I actually enjoy snowmobiling better, but I still love ripping around in side by sides during the summer.
Love your video's man, my dad taught me alot about buying machines and i think you're spot on VERY informative. And if you've ever bought a lemon, i think you'd agree! 😁
I live in Queensland, Australia. I’ve never even seen a snow mobile yet I’ve already watched four episodes 🍻
you need to plan a vacation where you can stay & rent a sled you will be hooked.
Come to canada and lets go for a rip!
Newest Honorary Canadian, Right There!
Welcome, Brother
Definitely a sled I’m always looking for in PA and a great video helps a lot when I’m going to look at used sleds
Thanks a lot guys, this was super helpful. Some notes for other people:
How to pick between brand and models
$2.4-4k Ski-doo 2004 800 MXC rev (plain)
You’re likely going to spend $1.2-1.4k on repairs and upgraders
Skis and carbites, might be flat and need new ones that have an edge. $100ea. Need 2
Ski rubbers on skis: $20 ea.
Movement in the ski could be caused by loose rod ends.
Lower and upper rodes
Shocks: is they’re original they’re likely shot.
Are they springy? If they don’t rebound fast they’re old and need to be replaced.
None: bracket mounted to the shock, impact can bend it, will effect belts, can blow them.
If you can’t get your finger in the tie rod and shock then the non is belt, space should be the same space.
Panels on top should have the same fit, if not then bent you have a belt nun.
Tie rod boot, rubber boot that keeps snow and moisture out.
Exhaust: check if it’s belt from an impact.
Motor: is it clean?
Belt, is it broken, does it have an extra? $400ea. Maybe $200 after market.
Don’t have them warm it up, you want to do it to see if the ignition has any issues.
Clutch, is it clean, does it wobble?
Motor mounts, is there play? Does it feel secure, are any cracked?
Reed boots and reeds - connections on the engine block.
Flat metal on bottom, is it bent? Could be caused by impact from rocks underneath
Track rollers / idlers, are they loose, do the wheels wobble, then they’re loose or broken bearings.
Back shock, how are the mounts, if it’s loose then the mounts might be broken.
Track: $600-1.6k - does it have cracks, tears, holes?
Seat condition: $160 for cover
Sliders, rails that the belt slides on, wears a lot, if you’re taking the suspension out they should be replaced.
Coolant levels, if theres black in there could be mixed with other liquids.
Chain case: if it’s never been replaced, they’ll need to be.
Battery, is it good, $110 replacement battery.
Brakes, is there good pressure. Do the cables need to be replaced?
Compression for the engine can be found online, 135-145 pressure. Get a compression tester, maybe there’s 2 and they should be equal.
Pull the start rope, even if it’s electric, the rope should be inside.
Only buy from the owner.
Get a picture of them with their license.
Miles, how many and how many can is life for?
Some need pistons need to replaced after 2.5miles
or buy a yamaha and never worry about any of those things
Yamaha went out of business, good luck getting parts. @@JH-tc3yu
Awesome video, thank you so much. I now know what to look for when I buy my skidoo tomorrow,
This is amazing. I made a checklist note in my phone to take with me as I look at used sleds based off this video. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I love these videos they help a lot and they are so much fun to watch
Another area to look at: check online companies to see if parts are still available for the year/make/model you're looking to buy!
Excellent video Louis. Tons of valable info.
This doesn't really relate to this video but maybe at some point. if you haven't in the past could you talk about fresh reeds vs pooped out reeds and the possible throttle response difference? I am very curious on what your actual take is on this issue. Thank you! Also love your videos they are very informational
excellant videos on this channel.thanks for the efforts louie.
Great video, really helps a new buyer. Say, you should get that jet engine into a sled!
I watched an episode on belts, the only reason they put the arrow on the belt is so that if you remove it, and go to place it back on it is so you know which way to put it back on. A drive belt is equal either direction per the belt company.
another great Vid Louis thanks, and as always keep it up bud, cheers Dave
Bought that same sled 2003 model two years ago.learned some things .went over mine as u did video.all good except the nun issue. 1/4 inch difference in the doors .and A frame to spring 1/16 to almost 1/8 difference. Dosent have the rear delete.wish did.could cary extra gas. Its got 3200 mi on it. Runs good. Thanks for the info.
Wow thank you so much for putting this on here I’ve learned a lot just in half of the video. I’m 30 years old but I’ve only had two sleds in my life grew up riding but never had the money to really get one I have no idea really had to work on one I’m familiar with cars so I’m sure I could do it once I got going but I just don’t know a lot very informational
Good thing i came across this video, i almost both a 2003 zrt 600 for $800,i couldn't test it because the track got stuck in the track, i tought ok no big deal for the price cause he was strap for cash but after viewing this im like hum.. yea i would of bean way over my head in repair. You saved me having a big headache with that sled because im trying to get my first sled, i had no clue they require lots of maintenance :( i will keep looking at your vids for guidance.
thats why I like the really old machines (late 60's to mid 70's), simple, fairly robust and easy to fix. No, they won't jump a 30' canyon, but they'll get you to where you want to go and back. Carry a spare belt or 2, a screwdriver, and a carb kit. :)
thank you! you just reminded me of the HEADACHES of having a sled! LOL! I sold mine YEARS ago and almost pulled the trigger on one lol thanks again I will stick to snowboarding skiing and my ATV..
Raven4122 you are a sad thing
atv's suck for various reasons
noblsht no just no
Bought a sled once that did a lot of trail riding had a grooved spot on both the primary and secondary cluch from just maintaining a single speed for so long always hesitated every time the belt passed it
This was a VERY good video for buying any used vehicle.
Hilarious: "what you really want to make sure is that they haven't done "
Love your vids, man!
If rear suspension is painted check for cracked slide arm. I had that happen to me
Super helpful! I wanna buy another snowmobile to take my buddy out on the weekends and I was gonna buy the cheapest arctic f6/f7 i could but i think im gonna spend a few extra thousand and get a newer solid sled than one thats been jumping for the past 15 years for only 1800 bucks lol
Thank you for putting this video together. I started riding last year and bought 2 sleds already. This video educated me on what to look for in the future. Happy riding!
Nice vid good tips. Nicks on main body of Float do not cause air leaks though. Air seal is on shaft bearing cap inside. Outer seal on airsleeve is mostly a scraper and Moisture seal.
I recently got a 96 550 arctic cat cougar mountain cat, picked it up for 700$ but I spent over 700$ into in trying to get it ready for the season. Love your content Loui! Keep it up
You think that's bad? I bought a 1995 Vmax 600 DX, running and riding for $400 in the summer. I took it to our friendly backyard mechanic and he just kept finding stupid little details to fix and I just said do what you have to...
$400 in the rear skid bushings alone, $350 track, new strut tower canisters at $160.
Long story short I had about $2200 invested in a sled that I bought for $400. It was mint but it was just an old Vmax. I learned my lesson on not fixing every little detail.
Thanks for the tips big guy!
I have a 98 Mach z and I don’t think it’s old at all I love it
remember my old mxz 2003 the tumb gas wire on it was hard to hold so after a day sledding you got tumb pain. Think they fix that on -04 sleds
Hi nice video, what’s your thoughts for say me buying a good condition used unit, in terms of who (manufacturing wise) makes the best quality hi power sled preferably 2 stroke ? Great handling hi speed
Great video, thank you for making and posting!
I got mine 02 Polaris 600 everything was fine but the high beams which I need to look into hopefully upgrading next year to a 2012 or newer 600 cat
Money pits. I am so glad I got out of snowmobiles a few years ago. I wrenched on them as a hobby and had my own shop. I made plenty of money fixing snowmobiles. I had Cancer and the surgery to remove it ruined me from ever riding again. I am glad now I am out of them. Prices have gotten just plain stupid on them. I am now into RC planes and other RC stuff. I still do small engine repair, but mainly lawn equipment. Snowmobiles were always a money pit but I learned to fix them and turn a dime doing it. I restored many vintage sleds, saving them from the scrapper. I would still be doing it I guess. Good video. I never paid dealer price for any of my sleds or parts. I visited sled bone yards and got after market parts. I told everyone snowmobiles have A lot of high wear items, thats normal. Skags, slides, tracks, idlers , belts, it all adds up eventually. Plan on spending the first season replacing stuff on a used sled. Compression is the MOST IMPORTANT indicator of engine condition. I carriedcmy compression testor with me wherever I went. I could test them on the trail and tell a guy if his engine was gone. Spark plugs are the number one way to tell how a sled runs. If it has new plugs, dont trust it.
Aren’t all hobbies expensive if you truely put time into them?
@@Rumblefan Time? Yes. Then again time can be invested into anything. If your hobby is fixing broken lawn mowers and reselling them( its what I do) Then you can say the time was well spent and when you sell the lawn mower, it can earn you money.
How much time you spent on a hobby shouldn't really count against you.
If you said" I spent my time at work saving the company money". Then you just benifitted the company. As far as what you gained from it? Nothing. If that time was wasted and it costs you money, then I guess you can look at it in two ways. Kind of like fishing. If you go fishing and catch none, was that a waste of time, or a better way of spending time than saving your company money you will NEVER see anyways. No Hobbys shouldnt be compaired to work. Apples to oranges.
I would rather burn up a few hours fixing a mower than saving the boss money. Some how it just doesnt give me that same warm fuzzy feeling.
You think sleds are bad.... you should see personal watercraft. Ive had a few..... to say the least. If buying used and its over 10 years old...... its worth nothing.
@@banshee8989 I saw, I learned enough about PWC to STAY AWAY. Those and boat motors. Pure headache. Those things have tons of seals to prevent water from getting in Yet they still need air to operate. Yeah right! Boat motors require specialty tools for every brand. You eather make them, or pay for them. Unless you work on them all the time, you spent money that will require you to fix 10 more like it to pay for it. I had different clutch tools for every brand. I sold them all for almost nothing when I got out of it.Technology has pretty much made working on this stuff too expencive. I started out restoring older snowmobiles and worked my way up to the newer models. Eventually I was competing with the dealers to properly fix new snowmobiles because the damn dealers couldnt even fix the manufacters issues. A guy doesnt give a RATS REAR about warrenty when even the dealer cannot fix a factory defect. I used my head and modified things. The guy left my shop happy as hell and I got to rub it in the dealers face .
banshee8989 oh yeah jet skis seem like a nightmare.
I just got a 2004 rev 800 and I wish I would've watched this before. Still this was very helpful, thanks for the info
Nice third gen!
Just bought a 03 mxz rev 600 with a new rebuilt engine from a doo dealer in the kawartha area all the paperwork to back it 12,000km on the body but watching this really helped me with everything else I think this video helped me get a good clean sled for its age almost 18 years later im just leary ive heard odometer issues with these sleds
I just traded my mini bike for a 1998 articat panther snowmobile with an upgraded motor from a 550 to a 580 it's my first snowmobile. And now I watched this video and I could've checked it all but I had to go to work that morning so I just did the trade and he said I have to pour gas down the spark plug hole I did that it will run for 15 seconds and I Rev it up and a few seconds later it shuts down even at half throttle the sled didn't want to move I got it to move 20 feet 1 time what could be the reason it doesn't want to run or move?
Excellent video Louie!
Great intell bud, I just learned a lot of stuff!
Love the ski Doo vid.. you really get to the details.. ppl getting rid of sleds because of the problems you pointed out. They absolutely HATE when a guy like yourself shows up. hahaha I have a 2006 GSX 600 looks identical to that 800 you have except the power.. the previous owner somehow sprung an oil leak behind the reservoir. The lines dry cracked or rotted. long as theirs oil in the tank the sled ran. I never took it out of the yard due to the fact but it started rite up.. pull or electric. Purred like a cat. Reverse works fine. No clunking or anything. 3200mi. any ideas on how to get at it or should I drop it off to a skidoo dealer.. Thanks, John
Please tell me you're doing another awesome Rev series !?
Wanting to buy a sled and came across this video. Wow! Thank you so much for making this. New sub here for sure.
Welcome aboard!
You shuld check the framerails behind the primary cluch and exhaust. They are always bent
Send me that rear shock. I’ll ream it out and sleeve it, put in new bushings, it’ll be ready to put another 2000 miles down the trail!
@25:56 I don't mean to put words in Louise's mouth but he meant "Sit Tight" and/or "Hang Tight". I think. :-)
Great advise Louis. You know your Snowmobiles. Thanks for all your projects and input.
Great Video! Very informative. Thank you.
I bought a cheap rev 600sdi in July as my first sled, this video has me in the garage checking all kinds of things I didn't know to check lol A lot more in depth than the other videos I've seen.
How’s the sdi 600 running?
Looking at a 1990 Arctic Cat Jag 440 Deluxe tomorrow, a guy over my age (40s) is selling it for his dad who doesn't use the net, they're local farmers . It has 1600 miles and kept inside. I don't know if they're the original owners, but if they are, I guess I'm out 800 bucks and i'll own my first snowmobile or snow machine. I'm a biker turned vintage garden tractor guy, I always wanted to find an old Bolens machine to match my tractor, but I think with this, the next winter will be the best ever.
Check the skid rails for cracks. Sometimes its hard to see them.
It is a scary venture for sure. I want to buy my first sled. Not new as I want to feel them out first. After research, with my needs I think a Trail or Mountain sled might be best. I'm new at this but have been in competition sports and riding most of my life with bikes, quads, boats, surfing, skiing, etc. So I think I may "get it" in no time. I want to get a good one as I know I will grow out of a beginners or intermediate one quickly. Anyone have any suggestions? I am located in central Oregon.
My sled is a 2003 mxz 380 f only owned and driven by me. Bought when I was 13. Drove with my 80 year old Grandpa in the trails with his sled. Do you think I will need to replace a bunch of parts like this before taking it on the trail? It’s been sitting for almost ten years. Replaced the gas lines and filters cleaned it up. Runs like a champ. Has 2000 miles on it. Looks clean but I’m no expert
I just started working on a 2003 rev chassis and it sucked it’s so hard to get to anything
Sweet how the skidoo opens up like my Yamaha exciter 570
This was so helpful A+ vid my dude!
Louie you going to the slederama tomorrow?
Would an Arctic Cat M7 be good
What is your opinion on SLP mowhawk skis for 50/50 on off trail?
Alright. I watched this video first before buying a 03 rev 600 for 1650 with 6800 miles. Gave it the shake down (should’ve wrote everything down honestly) body panels looked great, lined up pretty evenly. The nun wasn’t perfect but it was damn close via finger check. Compression was 125 on each that was my only concern. Track looked fine, bogies, clutches, motor mounts. Hope I did the right thing. Get to ride it tomorrow to see how it actually works. Seems back asswards but it is what it is
Got a 99 Summit 670 and a 2003 Summit 800 Adrenaline , both great sleds and run awesome
Finally snowmobile season
Also I know from Ski-doos I have had, sometimes they don't have the engine that is suppose too be in the frame, like this 2001 500cc MXZ I had, someone put a 95 type 462/470 Grand touring engine in it, and I was blowing clutch belts like crazy cause of the motor mounts not bolted down too the frame and not aligned with it, also I was always having too replace the springs in the recoil since it was a pull start, the spring tabs that catch the sheave would break
Thanks for the video. Really helpful.
Any advice on changing a thermostat on a 2010 Arctic cat Z1 turbo and any advice on bleeding the lines
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That old sled is out of NB I believe based on that old trail pass decal on wind screen
Very helpful video, thanks!!
What is that engine on the rack behind you in the middle... looks like a JET ENGINE or an old radial??
After all these years I finally get it why people who ride on long trips extended days always have the newest machines within a few years. If your riding an older machine that has not been maintained, a breakdown will REALLY piss off the guys you're riding with and you've wasted lots of money for nothing, they you have to rent a fan cooled slow ass machine and spend money on that and spend money on fixing your old junk. I stopped going on weekend rides anymore and financing 10-13 grand is not my priority at the moment.
Have same sled. Did the finger thing by a frame.its not quite off as far as urs.hopeing can just ride it .not going to be jumping it.on purpose.lol. bought couple years ago.didnt know about nun.its a snotty little sled. I know engine smoothes out 35-40 mph on trail riding. 3500 miles.dont ride lots.put 3 gallon extra spare gas can on the beaver delete i put on it.changed gear case oil. Only thing had to do was ring gear and starter. Bougt aftermarket starter was mistake.got one frim skidoo.works good. Goina look at things u pointed out.thanks
that intro tho got to love it
So I wish I saw this before I bought my sled. My right shock is closer to the a arm then left. I measured it and it’s an 1/8” closer. Does that call for repair or just keep an eye on it?
I acquired a 2005 REV 380f but the grips are loose after testing them in the heated position. Is there a simple fix (i.e., glue) you recommend or do I have to replace them? Appreciate the video and thanks in advance for a response.
@PowerModz Been folowing your videos (mostly ATV) for about a year now. Looking to move up north (owensound) this year and thinking i will NEED a snowmobile lol. Anyway, in your opinion what do you think is the best bang for the buck around $5k .
I wouldn't pay more than 1500 for that. This really made me realize to take a deeper look before buying a sled
Is that an old radial engine on the shelf? If so, what's it out of? Thanks
Mostly minor problem regular maintenance really. I would have checked the primary and secondary a little better thou .. Everything else I agree 100% great video man.
I have an Adrenaline 600 HO SDi what is a good compression and the best way to test the oil injectors
Thanks for all the good info
This guy is good. True Canadian
My first sled was and still is a 1968 evinrude skeeter 16 horse power in its hay days. I use them for fun and to hall the biggest otter sled ever made full of firewood mostly oak. Very little work to keep them running. Just got the seats recovered . Also have a 2 year old viper and new xt7000 cat. I prodably dont need more but l like fixing classics .
I like when he squeezes the boots.