And the real life Nando opens the door for character Nando at the airport which is quite poignant. There’s a few others survivor cameos too; Roberto as a doctor standing behind character Roberto at the hospital, Coche in the bar, Daniel Fernández in the church, Mocho and Tintin at the airport. Oh and Numa’s nephew outside Numa’s house.
Dear Carlios Paez. Also Nando is in the film. He's the one who opens the door for his counterpart, Nando played by Agustin Pardella. Roberto Canessa is behind his counterpart at the end, helping Matias Recalt's "Roberto" into the hospital. Coche Inciarte is in the pub behind Numa. Ramon Sabella is a passenger in the airport when the team is meeting. Gustavo Zerbino is playing a rugby coach in the beginning when we see the scrum with the guys. Tintin Vizintin is another passenger at the airport. Daniel Fernandez Strauch plays an assistant to the priest in the church part. Numa's brothers and sisters are in the film. The home used as the Turcatti home is is actually where Numa lived. The books Enzo Vogrinzic is going through were actually Numa's.
The Chilean man who found Nando and Roberto in Chile, Sergio Catalán, has become legend too. He rode for 10 hours to notify the authorities to rescue them. He took the handwritten note by Nando as proof. All the survivors know his name and honor him.
Not just knowing his name or honoring him, the survivors took cared of him his whole life, some years before passing away, the survivors payed a surgery for him in one of the best places.
I just completed Eduardo's book, "Into the Silence" and he has nothing but praise for Sergio. When Roberto, being a doctor, found out from Sergio's son that Sergio needed a hip replacement, he called on the "boys" to help in paying for it. Sergio was if not one of the most important pieces in this story.
The reason why Gustavo refused to leave the suitcase, was because each item belonged to each of the people who did not survive, and he managed to give those items to each person's family.
It's the 3rd most watched non-English language movie in Netflix history & fully deserved its 2 Oscar noms (Best International Feature Film & Best Makeup and Hair-styling)!
From what I understood, numa was chosen as the narrator to not only tell the stories of the survivors but also those who died since they all were important in the story and survival of those who got off the mountain. They all mattered. He was also the last one to die and because of his efforts in nursing and comforting the survivors his death became the wake-up call for nando and Roberto to start walking. Losing everyone was difficult but losing him and the thaw starting was the thing that made them begin the walk off the mountain.
Yep. Numa's part in the piece was to act as the voice of the dead. The part where he died, there is a piece on the soundtrack called "Numa Accepts his Place." That place is among the dead.
@@23marian It's ok, Zone of Interest still won the Oscar, meaning more critics agree that it is the better film, and it got more Oscar nominations, meaning it's better. Both great films, Zone of Intres is just slightly better.
Hi there, girls! English is not my first language so I hope it is acceptable. I am writing from Argentina. My province was the last place the team was before the trip, they had to spent the night of october 12th here because of bad weather conditions. That is why they flew on Friday October 13th. Some facts about the story: Nando and Roberto could not leave earlier because all of them were stranded by the winter. The snow and the nights would have killed them. They had to wait for the thaw, no matter what, otherwise they had no chance for survival. Nando was the one who constantly insisted on climbing and crossing the Andes because he could not stand watching his friends dying any more and he also knew that he and Roberto would be physically weaker if they waited longer , but Roberto was not convinced on the idea of leaving the plane. That is why Numa's death was so important, they could not accept any more deaths. Here in my country we remember all the story vividly from 1972. You can see some cameos: the doctor who carries Roberto walking behind him at the hospital among the crowd is the actual Roberto. Roberto finally got his degree as children cardiologist and has saved many children's lives. Nando is the tall man who holds the door for Nando and his family at the airport entrance. The actor is not as tall as Nando. There are some other cameos too , but the most emotional one is the actual Carlitos Paez playing his own father reading the list of survivors. That really happened, Carlitos' father headed many searching parties, and even alone, to the Andes looking for Carlitos, and finally he was given the list to be read on the radio. Carlitos said that it took many takes his part in the movie because he could not speak due to his emotions and remembering his father, who passed away some few years ago. Another fact: the one who did not want to leave the suitcase was also another med student, Gustavo. He himself visited each home to give the families the tokens he collected from his fallen friends. He said it was his mission. Thanks girls for your reactions, I had been waiting for it😊
Tu Ingles es bueno. No te disculpes. Soy de los EE. UU. pero mis padres son Mejicanos. Gracias por la informacion. I always thought that the seasons were reversed from what we get up here. Por decir, cuando es invierno aqui, yo pensaba que alla era verano.
Just to add something, I heard once that the first person they encountered was there looking because he saw a fire the night before. Gracias por toda la info!
@@raziele92 yes you were right seasons are the oposite in the southern hemisphere so October is spring, but to be clear in the Andes the temps are around -22º F on summer
It was actually agreed among all the people who survived the plane crash and then throughout their ordeal that they would not eat Javier Methol's wife Liliana after she died (she died in the avalanche). They put Liliana's body aside, untouched. All of the young men saw Liliana as a surrogate mother, who comforted the depressed and homesick, and nursed them when they were wounded. She always tried to ease the pain in their hearts and minds, even as she struggled with her own and missing her kids. None of them could bear the thought of eating her. They also made an agreement not to eat certain other bodies (including Nando's mother and sister, among others) out of respect to those still alive who were family. Eating a friend was hard enough already. They did not want to do something that would psychologically destroy those who still lived to see close family be eaten and potentially cause tension and negativity within the group. So that is why the group is so moved when Nando tells them they can eat his family in order to live and use them to mount another escape attempt should his fail. There were 13 bodies that were intact at the end of their ordeal. They were starving even more towards the end of their 70 days there, but continued to avoid eating any of the bodies they marked as off-limits. One of the intact bodies was Rafael "el Vasco" Echavarren. He was one of the people hanging from the luggage rack after his legs were ruined in the crash. Rafael badly wanted off the mountain and to be reunited with his father. He died from infection from his wounds (he was the one who died 2nd to last, before Numa). The survivors told Rafael's father of what happened to his son on the mountain along with handing over the notes Rafael wrote for him. After hearing of his son's wishes, Rafael's father decided he wouldn't leave his son on the mountain. Unfortunately, the Chilean government decided all the bodies would just be placed in a mass grave on the mountain. None would be brought down. So Rafael's father asked the priest who went up to the mountain to perform the burial ceremony to clearly mark his son's body bag. The priest did so and, after the authorities left the mountain, Rafael and a group he hired men traveled into the mountains, unburied his son, and carried it down the mountain. He tried to smuggle the body back to Uruguay, but authorities caught him and arrested him. However, there was such an uproar from all over about arresting the father that they let him go. Rafael was buried near his family's home and, 50+ years later, now his father is buried beside him.
They also did not eat Ester Nicola, the wife of the team doctor who also died. They didn't touch Graziela de Marriani, or Susy and Eugenia Parrado. The women were left untouched. Though Nando told Carlitos they could use them if they needed to, Nando drove he and Roberto so the ones remaining wouldn't have to. In the end, they didn't.
@@diannebdee I am not 100% sure, but I think they did have to eat from Sra. Nicola and Sra. de Mariani. The rescuers said there were 13 bodies left intact--this included the four who were close family: Nando's mother and sister, Javier's wife Liliana and cousin Panchito, and the Strauch cousins' cousin Daniel Shaw, so five of them. They also did not eat Arturo, Vasco and Numa because they died partially from infections and the Strauches were worried the meat would be tained. So now 8. The 5 other bodies they did not eat were the ones who fell from the plane that they were unable to retrieve (Carlos Valeta and Daniel Shaw were closer to the fuselage, so they brought them back in the last week; Carlos they had to start eating from, Daniel of course was intact)--so Gastón Costemalle, Alexis Hounié, Guido Magri, Joaquín Ramírez and Ramón Martínez, for a total of 13. Some of the survivors have said they tried to start with the bodies that they were least familiar with, so the pilot and co-pilot I believe were the first and then probably Sra. de Mariani since she was the only one unknown to anyone on the plane.
Also nando almost died from his head injury and they thought he was dead already (he was unconscious for like three days) so they put him close to the hole in the fuselage. In normal circumstances or closer to the warmth the others had his brain would’ve swollen and killed him but because his head was kept cold the brain didn’t swell and he lived to walk off the mountain
This film is like a love letter to all the survivors and victims, the way they did it was so respectful and heartbreakingly real. Even the ones who didn't survive to get rescued, played a role to survival. Great reaction and thank you for reacting it with subs and the og language.
Yep, it was peaking winter when they crashed, and they needed to wait for the thaw. Plus they needed something to survive overnight-like the sleeping bag they made from the tail insulation that they didn’t find until about two months in.
It's crazy how much this story resonated in South America (or at least in the countries involved, Uruguay, Chile and Argentina). I'm from Argentina and since I was a kid I knew that the Uruguayan crew had crashed somewhere in the Argentine Andes. I remember not even having a concept of death at that time, I did know cold so the thought of constant cold and desolation gave me chills and still does to this day. Great video! This film should have won the Oscar for sure
The film is a cinematic masterpiece, not only because of the aesthetics, art, photography, make-up or script, but because they managed to tell the story as real and truthful as possible, to the point that the survivors actively participated in it and say that when they see it they relive in their minds everything that happened. It is wonderful the way in which Bayona manages to show the harshness of what happened with an artistic touch and a strong emotional charge and for the first time not only highlighting the figure of the survivors as heroes but also those who died and did not make it out of the mountain, which is why Numa's voice as narrator is so important. Each of the actors met the real person they were playing and most of them managed to create a bond with them, moving from interpretation to reality and giving the importance it deserves to what each survivor felt, because as they have already said, each one remembers the mountain in a unique way. THANKS FOR REACTING!
Not only the survivors, but the process of the filmmaking was very healing to some of the families of the victims too!! The relationships they formed with their actors are extremely heartwarming. Heck, some relatives that couldn’t be contacted by the production crew (Abal, Roque, Shaw) got into contact with their actors by themselves after the movie, thanking them for their work.
It was nominated for an Oscar for Best Foreign Film, and nominated for Best Makeup, which was something you highlighted. This director with the last name: Bayona, made another very good movie 10 years before this one called: The Impossible, with Ewan McGregor, Naomi Watts and Tom Holland, also about a real tragedy about the 2004 Indonesian tsunami.
"You guys have gotta to move. Get out of his area." Unfortunately, they had no choice. The plane was stuck in the snow. Not that they would have the ability or strength to move it. And it was the ONLY refuge from the cold. They needed it for shelter. You saw how those guys barely survived that night on the mountain when they were search for the tail. It was still bitterly cold in the fuselage, but still better than fully exposed, out in the elements. There was also no where they could go that wouldn't still put them at risk of an avalanche. They didn't know where it would be safe. So they had no choice but to stay with the fuselage and live in constant dread of another avalanche. Every noise made them jumpy. They struggled to sleep. They had PTSD from the experience even after they were rescued. One story saying a survivor mistook his sheets back at home as snow burying him and panicked, throwing himself out of bed.
My ex husband was Uruguayan, and he used to tell me about this, from his father, who was a young man when this happened. What they had to do, to survive, Arturo, his papa, said, Uruguay understood. Cheers Australia
Amazing reaction, thank you for sharing it. Thank you as well for watching it in Spanish. A few facts: Nando made quite a recovery because even when his head swelled with the impact, it was facing the cold metal of the plane when he was left outside because everybody was thinking he was dead or about to die. The cold served as a very cold ice pack to heal the swelling in his head and make him better. Diego Storm (who died during the avalanche) was another medicine student thought after the first night it was a good idea to bring Nando to a warmer area inside the plane. They really tried to make a fire but the winds were very strong and keep putting it down. Also, they didn't have much to burn and it would burn instantly, so instead they gave up the idea to make a fire and instead putting as many layers of clothing as possible. The idea Nando had to want to eat the bodies came out of anger that the pilots' negligence got them to be stuck in the mountain helpless. Let's not forget he lost his mum, sister and 2 best friends. Nando's anger it's what pushed him to want to get out of there no matter what. They were peeing black because of severe dehydration, the snow took ages to melt and the ice was burning their mouths and gums. Numa, when Marcelo died said: they have been waiting for a moment like that, a moment of peace. Marcelo after finding out the government stopped looking for them got very depressed and kind of lost hope. Some of the survivors say that they think when Marcelo was trapped in the snow during the avalanche he let himself die because he could not fulfill his promise that rescue was coming and all of those people were in that plane because he planned the trip. The guilt and despair kill him, the avalanche was just his way to let go of that burden. Fito was the one who thought of making water, glasses to protect their eyes from the reflexion of the sun in the snow and also chose the bodies that would be eaten along with his cousins Daniel and Eduardo. Fito was called the inventor. The cousins how the call themselves were those who carried the biggest burden of all, to know which friend they were eaten and cut that friend to be eaten. Carlitos, the young person who crashed into the suitcases with his car at the airport, was a spoiled child who came from a wealthy family. He was very spoiled, he even had a nanny, after this trip his perspective of life absolutely changed. In the plane, he was in charge of making sure there were not drafts in the plane or reduce the possibility of drafts using the suitcases and plane seats, he was very good at it. He also was the one who made the sleeping bag that Nando and Roberto used to protect them and sleep during their walk to Chile. They had so so so so many cigarettes because in Chile cigarettes were scarce and Javier Methol, the man who lost his wife in the avalanche, worked in a Tabaco company so thought it was a good business to take a lot of cigarettes and sell them in Chile. In those years if you went to Chile with a few dollars or had some out of the market products you were a millionaire. Chile was going through a horrible economical crisis. Numa did not get injured like that in the real events, someone walked on his leg by accident because of the lack of space in the plane and because he was not eating his body did not have much strength to recover from the bruise. He was the last one who died and his death pushed Nando and Roberto to say fuck it lets do this, let's save ourselves because no one else is going to. The others 14 left in the plane also had a plan b in case Nando and Canessa did not make it which was putting together another team to hike the mountains. The actual survivors loved this version more than the 1993 version, because it doesn't idolise the survivors as the heroes, instead recognises and considers those who died and their memory. In the alive version some families did not give permission to use the real rugby player's names. In this versions all the families were happy and satisfied with the way the story was told and gave permission. Reporters kept digging in a very nasty way how they survived, what did they eat, etc. The survivors were very secretive for respect to their death friends families, also ashamed and worry their families friends and the country would judge them. They had a press conference were they answered to reporters questions ONCE instead that addressing the situation 100000 times to every reporter who asked. They asked the reporters and people for respect of their choices considering the very harsh circumstances they had to face. Pancho Delgado (Numa's best friend in the movie was they one who spoke in this conference) He said that Jesus gave his blood and body to save the world so the survivors took their friends bodies and blood for them to be save. Pancho also asked the reporters to please not spoiled with yellow press and judgement an act that was sacred to them and something that was done for pure survival instinct. The actual survivors made a Kameo in the movie Nando, opened the door to the actor who played him at the airport, Roberto Canessa was one of the Drs in the Hospital when they got rescued, Coche Inciarte reading a newspaper in the bar Numa and his friends were, Daniel Fernandez in the church, Numa's real life nephew passing by Numa's house when he was entering and Carlitos, who read all the survivors names, were is different scenes. The house shown as Numa's house in the movie was actually his real house back in 1972. The reason why Zerbino would not leave without the suitcase it's because he hoped that tokens from the death people, like personal belongings such as jewelry, rosaries, ID's, letters written before dying were taking back to give to their families. That actually happened the real survivor refused to leave without the suitcase and when back home he personally went to each of the families homes of the passengers that did not survive to give them something that belonged to them, so the families even when not having their bodies back they could have something to remember them by. In the movie isn't shown but the rescue was in 2 stages. They had to rescue one lot of people that day and the next lot the day after. Some survivors had to stay another night waiting for the other helicopters to arrive. Those left behind the first day were left with food and a team of rescuers. A survivor said most of the rescuers were scared of them after seeing all the human remaining all over the place and made sure the survivors knew they had a gun. Also the smell and dirt was unbearable. Only one rescuer Sergio Diaz, I believe he is called, stayed in the plane with them that night, ate with them and advised them about what they were going to face after everybody knew they have eaten human beings. There is a man who was part of the search team that were looking for the plane during the rescue missions. His name is Claudio Lucero and he had made quite strong arguments in the media about how he believes the 27 people left alive in the plane after the crash planned and plotted maliciously all the events that happened to them to gain fame. He states they could have left the mountain days before the day they got rescued, but chose to stay longer and go through hunger and lost to become famous and earn money.
The reason they didn't leave earlier was because of the weather. They had to wait until the thaw begann in order to avoid avalanches and also to be able to endure the cold. Loved your reaction and love this movie 🧡🧡
In real life, Numa never injured his foot by kicking a window in desperation, instead, he just got step on his foot in the middle of the night when someone else was going to the bathroom. I understood the change because of the cinematic reason, but at the same time this event just show how fragile is your life on a situation like that, something so silly like getting step can get you killed in that situation.
I love this movie. Thank you guys for doing a reaction! I love the moment towards the end when Nando and Roberto see the Ranger across the stream. It's one guy on horseback in the middle of the wilderness, but that one guy is all of humanity in that moment. Through that one guy they're finally connected to civilization again. Such a brilliant moment in a great film.
I've seen more than a hundred of the movies that have been released this year, and Society of the Snow will remain in my top 10 of 2024, without a doubt. The epilogue is one of the most moving movie moments I've seen in a while. Great idea to hire Michael Giacchino to compose the music, we owe him Lost's score, it couldn't be more fitting. Oh, and Numa is the voice of the dead.
I keep seeing the subtitles say the temperature drops 30 degrees just like the narrator speaks. He means celcius. In farenheit, a 30 C drop is about an 86 F drop! So they probably go from a daily of what, 55 F during the day? to some -25 F. I saw this movie in my mind first since I saw Nando's account on a tv interview which lasted for like 30 minutes. I can't believe the movie is exactly as I pictured it, but he even gave more details of his experience. He said during the avalanche he got trapped and was experiencing death. He couldn't feel his body, see anything. He stopped feeling pain and felt how he was going into dying. At the split of a second, he says, he regained consciousness back into his body.
The craziest thing (among all the crazy things they endured) was that the ones who walked to try and reach the Chilean side had to come back to the plane with the helicopters to show the rescue team exactly where they crashed.
They couldn't walk before. They tryed and couldn't spend 1 night outside without getting frozen to almost death. The only reason they could do it, it's becouse they found that impermeable cloth
As an Uruguayan, this event is a big part of our history, and this movie truly brings it to life in such a masterful way. As I understand it all the survivors contributed to make it as close to the actual events as possible, and did not shy away from showing even the most graphic scenes, like the eating of the dead. As for not leaving sooner, in the southern hemisphere the seasons are the other way around - so when the plane crashed, it was around spring, and it was only going to get warmer.
Interesting fact... some of the survivors have returned many times to the memorial that was erected in the site of the crash. Some of them just can´t do it because of PTSD. The wreckage of the plane has been moving down the mountain for many years now, and it seats today very far away from it´s original position where it landed.
yeah she kept making so many dumb suggestions and thought she was so much smarter than the ppl actually going through this horrible situation. it was really annnoying.
That's not exactly true: the reason why they could not light a fire was because winds were too strong and snow and cold air just made everything wet; but there is enough oxygen to still light a decent fire. And they tried, meaning they learned (the bad way) they could not have fire in that valley.
@@DocuzanQuitomosplus they didn't have a lot to burn anyway. they needed all the clothes they could get to keep warm, especially since they mostly packed light weather summery clothes for vacation in a city, not such extreme cold. not to mention the materials probably wouldn't burn well or long anyway.
Whats always been crazy to me is that none of them had ever seen snow before they didnt know that what they did whats virtually impossible.and because they didnt know they were able to do the impossible. Remarkable
hello i am uruguayan and i love your channel, more that you covered this movie. yes this is a true story but not the full story since the survivors choosed to keep some stuff out of movies and books. like when they eat first the raw dead bodies meat and give them vomit and diarhea, and when they started to go mad inside the plane buried in the snow for 4 days. they could not move from the plane since in latin america the winter starts around june and ends on september with spring, then spring ends on summer around december and fall comes around march. so when they crashed they where trapped by winter since in the night time the temperature could go over -90 F (or around -70 C since we use Celsius) so they kept on the plane not because they where afraid, but because they would have died of cold. also the aislating fabric they found on the tale was useful to do a sleep bag for the ones that traveled to chile and assisted in the final rescue.
Some of the survivors made cameos in the movie. The Doctor walking behind Canessa is the real Canessa . The "father" of Carlitos, the man reading the survivor list is the real Carlitos
This film is extremely realistic and sad, the director's attention to detail is impressive, the performances are fantastic, the plot, the story, the narration. That tremendous detail from the director that the narrator dies blew us all away. Numa's character is beautifully perfect, everyone sympathized with him and we died with him when he left. Very painful.!
There is something very interesting about this from the survival point of view. Most of them were spoiled kids from (not rich, but very wealthy families) that spent all their lives going to church and barely nothing else. Nando always tell the story about he didn't even knew how to clean his own clothes when the plane crash, almost nobody had survival skills. Yet, thankfully to the fact that they were a team even before the plane crash, is why they worked together so perfectly, from the minute 0 they worked together and everyone did a different job to keep them alive, that's why "society of the snow", they created a society where everyone had something to do, even the injured ones that weren't capable of stood up, they sat outside with a metal plate and a bottle and their work was to melt snow all day long.
Thank you guys for this reaction and your words at the end. I saw the movie almost a year ago and felt while watching you reacting to each such a big overwhelming feeling about love and friendship. We can only make it in life when there`s TEAM WORK. HUGE HUG TO BOTH OF YOU! Paz Lasca from Buenos Aires Argentina🥰
La razon por la que formaron un equipo es porque realmente eran un equipo de rugby que tiene reglas solidaras en las que todos trabajan para el grupo. Lo más fuerte es que su repercusión llega hasta nuetros días. Se han mantenido unidos hasta el dia de hoy, algunos hablando sobre el tema cada dia e incluso dando conferencias. La mayoría han tenido carreras exitosas, otros no quisieron hablar del tema por respeto a los muertos pero todos se reunen todos los años en casa de Canesa y en acontecimientos familiares. Son una gran familia con mucha fortaleza moral.
If this helps Kristen’s anxiety… it seems the accident was caused by the inaccuracy of the instruments of the time (the altitude reading was wrong and so the location) but now that technology is better
The crash investigation is a bit more complex than that (although the advice to Kristen still stands: commerical aviation is way more safe than charter flights in South America in the 1970's). Here's what happened, if you wish to keep going XD: 1) The airplane was underpowered to fly above the average peaks of The Andes; that's why, to cross them, it needed to use this pass (a low gap in the mountains) to fly from Argentina to Chile... but to do so, they would not be able to be monitored by radar (high mountains bounce radar signals everywhere, rendering radar useless). How that portion of the flight was handled then? By the oldest flight technique ever known to man: dead reckoning. You basically grab a map, a watch, a compass, a pencil and a ruler and use your speed and heading to guess where you are, and when to make movements like turns. This particular airplane even had one crew member dedicated to that: the navigator. And here is where things were to south in more ways than one. 2) The crossing of the Andes took a minimum of eight minutes (considering winds and speed; but it never took less than eight minutes). The final point to make the turn to the north was over the city of Curico, where a radio beacon was installed, to indicate the end of the crossing after that point. But the crew of the flight indicated they were over Curico and were turning north THREE minutes after they started the crossing (not even half way through that leg of the journey). Since the air traffic controller was, basically, blind, he had no way of knowing they were turning north too soon; he had to trust the pilots said they were where they said they were. What happened? Well, that's a mystery that will never be solved: after the crossing started, the navigator left the cockpit and went to drink a coffee in the galley at the tail of the plane (you can spot him, he is the military officer being thrown out when the tail detaches). The pilots also had a radio indicator that pointed to the signal in Curico (this instrument shows where one radio beacon is in relation to the airplane and it helps to detect if you no longer are flying to it; but it doesn't have an alarm); the instrument was recovered from the wreck and it proved it worked (all the time it showed they were flying AWAY of the point they should be flying TO). Still, somehow, the pilots were convinced the plane was over Curico (further west) and they now were flying to the Valley of Santiago; due to the lack of a Voice Recorder, there is no way of knowing why they were so convinced of this, and if they checked the instrument that could have told them they were not in the right flight path. 3) There was no altimeter malfunction; the plane was flying towards rising mountains hidden by low clouds (that plane was going to crash against one, no matter what, after turning north). The air pockets only made matters worse... kind of in a lucky way: the two sudden turbulences and drops depicted happened and they made the plane drop drastically closer to the mountains (that were already rising to meet them); when the airplane broke the cloud cover, and the pilots saw nothing but peaks, they tried to climb over them and they aimed to a gap in one of the peaks. Aiming to the gap was a good choice (impacting the side of a mountain at +300 km/h means death); but they botched the attempt to climb them: they pointed the nose up to clear the peak and that stalled the plane. An airplane flies because its wings have air flowing smoothly over the wing; that produces lift. If you want more speed (and more lift) you need to point the nose down (so more air runs over the wings); pointing the nose up reduces the amount of air running over the wing, which reduces lift, which makes the plane sink in the air (literally). In the last moments, with a plane not made to sudden climbs, the aircraft sank the few meters it could have gained and it hit the mountain at full speed. This led to the problem why, in part, no rescue plane spotted them in the first place too: according to all evidence, the plane should have been along the regular route (when, in reality, it had flown away from it, by a lot).
I love how Vivian expressed herself! I share the same opinions about the film. I had the fortune of meeting Roberto Canessa not too long ago. It is amazing how vividly he remembers these events.
At minute 31:43 the doctor holding Roberto Canesa by the shoulders is the real Roberto Canesa... I advise you to now watch any of the dozens of interview videos on UA-cam with Fernando Parrado and Roberto Canesa... You will enjoy these two heroes...
Movies based on true stories are always intense to watch, like this one, The Impossible, and Hotel Mumbai-they’re packed with suspense!” Survival instincts to the Max!!!!
As nando said the survival instinct is the strongest instinct to most species on this planet. A dog would chew off its own leg to survive. So for those who don't know. Nando and Canessa walked 37.5 miles over 10 days through the mountain. A incredible feat. The first mountain they climbed took three days, and Nando named the mountain Mount Seller after his father. Nando takes a back seat in this movie, but he was the biggest driving force in getting out. To have the courage to do what he did despite losing his mum and sister, It's crazy he actually survived. Google his head injury. A fractured skull and in a coma. He was left for dead and put at the back of the fuselage which kept him alive. The cold protected his injured brain
The film is a masterpiece, but there's so much more to this story. If you are interested in investigating further there are many books which explore it in detail, some written by the survivors, from Peter Paul Read's best-seller "Alive!" to Pablo Vierci's "Society of the snow" which the film is based upon to John Guiver's exhaustive "To play the game". Nando, Roberto, Coche, Eduardo , Carlitos and Pedro Algorta memoirs are must read too.
Thank you so much for reacting to this and thank you for doing it in spanish. You should watch a monster calls and the impossible. They are other masterpieces by Bayona and I think you are going to love them
Guys, this is a true story so a little disrespectful to be pointing out what you would do or what they should be doing. We have no clue what this would be like to live through thankfully.
27:29 - There's no way they would have survived that hike in the beginning they had to wait for the weather to warm up, it's a miracle they survived as it is.
yeah that blonde girl made so many stupid suggestions that wouldn't have worked, they had already tried or would have got them killed. she would have died day one out there yet she thought she was so clever and judged the boys so harshly multiple times.
In the real events, they didn't have helicopters and team to extract everybody, so they took the injured ones and sent three people from the rescue team to stay one more night with them (of course with food and all). But it is known that the rescue didn't want to sleep next to them, they were afraid because of how used where the survivors to death and being with a corpse next to you.
The survivors struggled a lot when they came back, society called them cannibals for a while, it was awful. We, as society, we were extremely ignorant and unemphatic with it. Later we all understood. But it took a while. The term is " necrophagy " which is the act of eating meat from a dead body. While cannibalism as we know is the act of killing and eat. Is just a word, but it changes everything, that's why they asked to learn what that word means, so all don't called them cannibals
See? I love these types of films. I mean, everything else is fine but, let's get to the reality of things. How would you handle or deal with these situations. Just like James Franco in 24. Limited supplies to survive. What?!? Would?!? You do????? 😱 Love this!
33:27 that actually has a name, it's "the indomitable human spirit", and often times the question poised, perse or the thought exercise because I don't really know what to call it, is "the indomitable human spirit vs the indifferent cruelty of the universe".
30:15 It’s not the real footage, but a recreation of it. It is incredibly close to it, though, the only thing that changes is some angles of the fuselage
Porque está película no gano un oscar??? Alguien puede explicarme, más aún que esté año las películas fueron de un nivel muy bajo!!! Saludos desde Uruguay
Fácil: se une el hecho de que las películas de Netflix y otras no están bien vistas, con que está en español y el director también lo es. Los directores de otros países que no pertenecen a la anglosfera o a un país de moda, lo tienen aún más difícil. Pero que sepas que arrasó en los Premios Goya (en España), llevándose casi todos los premios existentes, y también fue muy bien recibida en otros países. Hollywood está en crisis y aún no se da cuenta que este tipo de comportamiento sólo les desprestigia más.
I remember being way too young to watch it but still seeing the US adaptation of this story in the 90s: Alive! No joke one of the most impactful movies I've ever seen. The avalanche scene has been the hardest for me to watch in both films, btw. This movie, though, my god what a film. Alive will always have a special place in my heart, but this one is such a phenomenal film
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Thanks for the reaction. It's a great movie. The 1993 version is great as well with Ethan Hawke in the lead, never thought there will be another movie until this one just popped up. One of the books (the one by Piers Paul Read) is a good read as well. Always read it with my students in the last year before graduation (age 16). Even teenagers that don't read much are interested in this one. Very thrilling and gripping book.
Please be mindful when reading with your students, and take into account that PPR apologized to the survivors because he felt he misrepresented them in the book, and that he didn’t understand the community they created. The most obvious cases being Pancho Delgado, Tintín, Roy Harley and Bobby Francois.
The man at the end of the movie, reading the names of the survivors, is actually one of the survivors, "Carlitos Miguel Paez, my son". He is Carlitos.
And the real life Nando opens the door for character Nando at the airport which is quite poignant.
There’s a few others survivor cameos too; Roberto as a doctor standing behind character Roberto at the hospital, Coche in the bar, Daniel Fernández in the church, Mocho and Tintin at the airport. Oh and Numa’s nephew outside Numa’s house.
I tear up at this part every single time.
Dear Carlios Paez. Also Nando is in the film. He's the one who opens the door for his counterpart, Nando played by Agustin Pardella. Roberto Canessa is behind his counterpart at the end, helping Matias Recalt's "Roberto" into the hospital. Coche Inciarte is in the pub behind Numa. Ramon Sabella is a passenger in the airport when the team is meeting. Gustavo Zerbino is playing a rugby coach in the beginning when we see the scrum with the guys. Tintin Vizintin is another passenger at the airport. Daniel Fernandez Strauch plays an assistant to the priest in the church part. Numa's brothers and sisters are in the film. The home used as the Turcatti home is is actually where Numa lived. The books Enzo Vogrinzic is going through were actually Numa's.
His father did that speech. He is wearing the same clothes his father wore also
The Chilean man who found Nando and Roberto in Chile, Sergio Catalán, has become legend too. He rode for 10 hours to notify the authorities to rescue them. He took the handwritten note by Nando as proof. All the survivors know his name and honor him.
They go to meet him every year
@@gabrielr3336 He already passed away.
Not just knowing his name or honoring him, the survivors took cared of him his whole life, some years before passing away, the survivors payed a surgery for him in one of the best places.
I just completed Eduardo's book, "Into the Silence" and he has nothing but praise for Sergio. When Roberto, being a doctor, found out from Sergio's son that Sergio needed a hip replacement, he called on the "boys" to help in paying for it. Sergio was if not one of the most important pieces in this story.
@@dannycruz05 So have Javier Methol and Coche Inciarte. 😢
The reason why Gustavo refused to leave the suitcase, was because each item belonged to each of the people who did not survive, and he managed to give those items to each person's family.
There Is a museum in Montevideo Urg where you can see all these things
It's the 3rd most watched non-English language movie in Netflix history & fully deserved its 2 Oscar noms (Best International Feature Film & Best Makeup and Hair-styling)!
Should have won Imo
out of curiosity, what are the top2 most watched non-English movies? i have no idea
@@rosiii9 A '22 Norwegian movie called Troll & '24 French movie called Under Paris.
It's INSANE that they didn't get Best Makeup for this.
From what I understood, numa was chosen as the narrator to not only tell the stories of the survivors but also those who died since they all were important in the story and survival of those who got off the mountain. They all mattered. He was also the last one to die and because of his efforts in nursing and comforting the survivors his death became the wake-up call for nando and Roberto to start walking. Losing everyone was difficult but losing him and the thaw starting was the thing that made them begin the walk off the mountain.
Yep. Numa's part in the piece was to act as the voice of the dead. The part where he died, there is a piece on the soundtrack called "Numa Accepts his Place." That place is among the dead.
Numa was loved and respected that's why
This should have won best international film
Nope, The Zone of Interest is better, this is a great film, but Zone of Interest is slighly better.
Absolutely. Shame it didn't. I love this movie especially being from Argentina ❤
@@reynaldolorenzo8409ok. Don't agree but I respect your opinion
@@23marian It's ok, Zone of Interest still won the Oscar, meaning more critics agree that it is the better film, and it got more Oscar nominations, meaning it's better. Both great films, Zone of Intres is just slightly better.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 I have my opinion about the two movies and the critics. Again, you have yours too and that's fine
Soy Uruguaya y agradezco que hayan elegido mirar esta película. Es una joya. Narrada con la voz de una víctima. Mostró tremendo respeto.
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@@23marian 🇺🇾🫶🏼
Hola compañera Latinoamericana, saludos desde Honduras
@@OscarAntonio-t4z Arriba Latinoamérica ♥️🫶🏼
Saludos desde España.
Hi there, girls! English is not my first language so I hope it is acceptable. I am writing from Argentina. My province was the last place the team was before the trip, they had to spent the night of october 12th here because of bad weather conditions. That is why they flew on Friday October 13th. Some facts about the story: Nando and Roberto could not leave earlier because all of them were stranded by the winter. The snow and the nights would have killed them. They had to wait for the thaw, no matter what, otherwise they had no chance for survival. Nando was the one who constantly insisted on climbing and crossing the Andes because he could not stand watching his friends dying any more and he also knew that he and Roberto would be physically weaker if they waited longer , but Roberto was not convinced on the idea of leaving the plane. That is why Numa's death was so important, they could not accept any more deaths.
Here in my country we remember all the story vividly from 1972.
You can see some cameos: the doctor who carries Roberto walking behind him at the hospital among the crowd is the actual Roberto. Roberto finally got his degree as children cardiologist and has saved many children's lives.
Nando is the tall man who holds the door for Nando and his family at the airport entrance. The actor is not as tall as Nando. There are some other cameos too , but the most emotional one is the actual Carlitos Paez playing his own father reading the list of survivors. That really happened, Carlitos' father headed many searching parties, and even alone, to the Andes looking for Carlitos, and finally he was given the list to be read on the radio. Carlitos said that it took many takes his part in the movie because he could not speak due to his emotions and remembering his father, who passed away some few years ago.
Another fact: the one who did not want to leave the suitcase was also another med student, Gustavo. He himself visited each home to give the families the tokens he collected from his fallen friends. He said it was his mission.
Thanks girls for your reactions, I had been waiting for it😊
Tu Ingles es bueno. No te disculpes. Soy de los EE. UU. pero mis padres son Mejicanos. Gracias por la informacion. I always thought that the seasons were reversed from what we get up here. Por decir, cuando es invierno aqui, yo pensaba que alla era verano.
Just to add something, I heard once that the first person they encountered was there looking because he saw a fire the night before. Gracias por toda la info!
@@raziele92 yes you were right seasons are the oposite in the southern hemisphere so October is spring, but to be clear in the Andes the temps are around -22º F on summer
@@danieldigangi399 oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
Not me crying yet again reading this comment.
It was actually agreed among all the people who survived the plane crash and then throughout their ordeal that they would not eat Javier Methol's wife Liliana after she died (she died in the avalanche). They put Liliana's body aside, untouched. All of the young men saw Liliana as a surrogate mother, who comforted the depressed and homesick, and nursed them when they were wounded. She always tried to ease the pain in their hearts and minds, even as she struggled with her own and missing her kids. None of them could bear the thought of eating her. They also made an agreement not to eat certain other bodies (including Nando's mother and sister, among others) out of respect to those still alive who were family. Eating a friend was hard enough already. They did not want to do something that would psychologically destroy those who still lived to see close family be eaten and potentially cause tension and negativity within the group. So that is why the group is so moved when Nando tells them they can eat his family in order to live and use them to mount another escape attempt should his fail.
There were 13 bodies that were intact at the end of their ordeal. They were starving even more towards the end of their 70 days there, but continued to avoid eating any of the bodies they marked as off-limits.
One of the intact bodies was Rafael "el Vasco" Echavarren. He was one of the people hanging from the luggage rack after his legs were ruined in the crash. Rafael badly wanted off the mountain and to be reunited with his father. He died from infection from his wounds (he was the one who died 2nd to last, before Numa). The survivors told Rafael's father of what happened to his son on the mountain along with handing over the notes Rafael wrote for him. After hearing of his son's wishes, Rafael's father decided he wouldn't leave his son on the mountain. Unfortunately, the Chilean government decided all the bodies would just be placed in a mass grave on the mountain. None would be brought down. So Rafael's father asked the priest who went up to the mountain to perform the burial ceremony to clearly mark his son's body bag. The priest did so and, after the authorities left the mountain, Rafael and a group he hired men traveled into the mountains, unburied his son, and carried it down the mountain. He tried to smuggle the body back to Uruguay, but authorities caught him and arrested him. However, there was such an uproar from all over about arresting the father that they let him go. Rafael was buried near his family's home and, 50+ years later, now his father is buried beside him.
They also did not eat Ester Nicola, the wife of the team doctor who also died. They didn't touch Graziela de Marriani, or Susy and Eugenia Parrado. The women were left untouched. Though Nando told Carlitos they could use them if they needed to, Nando drove he and Roberto so the ones remaining wouldn't have to. In the end, they didn't.
@@diannebdee I am not 100% sure, but I think they did have to eat from Sra. Nicola and Sra. de Mariani. The rescuers said there were 13 bodies left intact--this included the four who were close family: Nando's mother and sister, Javier's wife Liliana and cousin Panchito, and the Strauch cousins' cousin Daniel Shaw, so five of them. They also did not eat Arturo, Vasco and Numa because they died partially from infections and the Strauches were worried the meat would be tained. So now 8. The 5 other bodies they did not eat were the ones who fell from the plane that they were unable to retrieve (Carlos Valeta and Daniel Shaw were closer to the fuselage, so they brought them back in the last week; Carlos they had to start eating from, Daniel of course was intact)--so Gastón Costemalle, Alexis Hounié, Guido Magri, Joaquín Ramírez and Ramón Martínez, for a total of 13.
Some of the survivors have said they tried to start with the bodies that they were least familiar with, so the pilot and co-pilot I believe were the first and then probably Sra. de Mariani since she was the only one unknown to anyone on the plane.
Also nando almost died from his head injury and they thought he was dead already (he was unconscious for like three days) so they put him close to the hole in the fuselage. In normal circumstances or closer to the warmth the others had his brain would’ve swollen and killed him but because his head was kept cold the brain didn’t swell and he lived to walk off the mountain
This film is like a love letter to all the survivors and victims, the way they did it was so respectful and heartbreakingly real. Even the ones who didn't survive to get rescued, played a role to survival. Great reaction and thank you for reacting it with subs and the og language.
Being from Chile, I grew up hearing about this story. They are real life Uruguayan heroes!
This takes place in the southern hemisphere, so seasons are flipped. October is spring, theyre going into summer. Although the region is cold!
they didnt start walking before bc it was still too cold, nando and roberto started to walk when the ice began melting
you should watch the survivors' interviews!
Yep, it was peaking winter when they crashed, and they needed to wait for the thaw. Plus they needed something to survive overnight-like the sleeping bag they made from the tail insulation that they didn’t find until about two months in.
It's crazy how much this story resonated in South America (or at least in the countries involved, Uruguay, Chile and Argentina). I'm from Argentina and since I was a kid I knew that the Uruguayan crew had crashed somewhere in the Argentine Andes. I remember not even having a concept of death at that time, I did know cold so the thought of constant cold and desolation gave me chills and still does to this day. Great video! This film should have won the Oscar for sure
Im from Mexico 🇲🇽, I was so waiting for this channel to react to this movie. It shows how resilient we human beings can be when you want to survive.
Today they wouldn't last 5 min without cell phones. They wouldn't know sht about first aid, how a radio works, how to make shelter, etc.
Soy uruguaya, esta historia forma parte de nuestro pais y estamos muy orgullosos de todos ellos.
The film is a cinematic masterpiece, not only because of the aesthetics, art, photography, make-up or script, but because they managed to tell the story as real and truthful as possible, to the point that the survivors actively participated in it and say that when they see it they relive in their minds everything that happened. It is wonderful the way in which Bayona manages to show the harshness of what happened with an artistic touch and a strong emotional charge and for the first time not only highlighting the figure of the survivors as heroes but also those who died and did not make it out of the mountain, which is why Numa's voice as narrator is so important. Each of the actors met the real person they were playing and most of them managed to create a bond with them, moving from interpretation to reality and giving the importance it deserves to what each survivor felt, because as they have already said, each one remembers the mountain in a unique way. THANKS FOR REACTING!
Not only the survivors, but the process of the filmmaking was very healing to some of the families of the victims too!! The relationships they formed with their actors are extremely heartwarming.
Heck, some relatives that couldn’t be contacted by the production crew (Abal, Roque, Shaw) got into contact with their actors by themselves after the movie, thanking them for their work.
It was nominated for an Oscar for Best Foreign Film, and nominated for Best Makeup, which was something you highlighted. This director with the last name: Bayona, made another very good movie 10 years before this one called: The Impossible, with Ewan McGregor, Naomi Watts and Tom Holland, also about a real tragedy about the 2004 Indonesian tsunami.
oh its the same dude.. ohhhhhh... nice to know. thnks.
"You guys have gotta to move. Get out of his area."
Unfortunately, they had no choice. The plane was stuck in the snow. Not that they would have the ability or strength to move it. And it was the ONLY refuge from the cold. They needed it for shelter. You saw how those guys barely survived that night on the mountain when they were search for the tail. It was still bitterly cold in the fuselage, but still better than fully exposed, out in the elements.
There was also no where they could go that wouldn't still put them at risk of an avalanche. They didn't know where it would be safe.
So they had no choice but to stay with the fuselage and live in constant dread of another avalanche. Every noise made them jumpy. They struggled to sleep. They had PTSD from the experience even after they were rescued. One story saying a survivor mistook his sheets back at home as snow burying him and panicked, throwing himself out of bed.
This movie genuinely shook me so deeply that I can't stop recommending it to others with a lot of warning to be in the right mindset for it.
It’s October in South America so it’s only going to get warmer :)
I have read several books from the survivors of the true story and think this movie does a wonderful job portraying what they went through
My ex husband was Uruguayan, and he used to tell me about this, from his father, who was a young man when this happened. What they had to do, to survive, Arturo, his papa, said, Uruguay understood. Cheers Australia
This should've won the Best International Picture Oscar in '23, not "Zone of Interest".
the behind the scene is amazing too. The work they put into making this movie is crazy
Amazing reaction, thank you for sharing it. Thank you as well for watching it in Spanish.
A few facts:
Nando made quite a recovery because even when his head swelled with the impact, it was facing the cold metal of the plane when he was left outside because everybody was thinking he was dead or about to die. The cold served as a very cold ice pack to heal the swelling in his head and make him better. Diego Storm (who died during the avalanche) was another medicine student thought after the first night it was a good idea to bring Nando to a warmer area inside the plane.
They really tried to make a fire but the winds were very strong and keep putting it down. Also, they didn't have much to burn and it would burn instantly, so instead they gave up the idea to make a fire and instead putting as many layers of clothing as possible.
The idea Nando had to want to eat the bodies came out of anger that the pilots' negligence got them to be stuck in the mountain helpless. Let's not forget he lost his mum, sister and 2 best friends. Nando's anger it's what pushed him to want to get out of there no matter what.
They were peeing black because of severe dehydration, the snow took ages to melt and the ice was burning their mouths and gums.
Numa, when Marcelo died said: they have been waiting for a moment like that, a moment of peace. Marcelo after finding out the government stopped looking for them got very depressed and kind of lost hope. Some of the survivors say that they think when Marcelo was trapped in the snow during the avalanche he let himself die because he could not fulfill his promise that rescue was coming and all of those people were in that plane because he planned the trip. The guilt and despair kill him, the avalanche was just his way to let go of that burden.
Fito was the one who thought of making water, glasses to protect their eyes from the reflexion of the sun in the snow and also chose the bodies that would be eaten along with his cousins Daniel and Eduardo. Fito was called the inventor. The cousins how the call themselves were those who carried the biggest burden of all, to know which friend they were eaten and cut that friend to be eaten.
Carlitos, the young person who crashed into the suitcases with his car at the airport, was a spoiled child who came from a wealthy family. He was very spoiled, he even had a nanny, after this trip his perspective of life absolutely changed. In the plane, he was in charge of making sure there were not drafts in the plane or reduce the possibility of drafts using the suitcases and plane seats, he was very good at it. He also was the one who made the sleeping bag that Nando and Roberto used to protect them and sleep during their walk to Chile.
They had so so so so many cigarettes because in Chile cigarettes were scarce and Javier Methol, the man who lost his wife in the avalanche, worked in a Tabaco company so thought it was a good business to take a lot of cigarettes and sell them in Chile. In those years if you went to Chile with a few dollars or had some out of the market products you were a millionaire. Chile was going through a horrible economical crisis.
Numa did not get injured like that in the real events, someone walked on his leg by accident because of the lack of space in the plane and because he was not eating his body did not have much strength to recover from the bruise. He was the last one who died and his death pushed Nando and Roberto to say fuck it lets do this, let's save ourselves because no one else is going to. The others 14 left in the plane also had a plan b in case Nando and Canessa did not make it which was putting together another team to hike the mountains.
The actual survivors loved this version more than the 1993 version, because it doesn't idolise the survivors as the heroes, instead recognises and considers those who died and their memory. In the alive version some families did not give permission to use the real rugby player's names. In this versions all the families were happy and satisfied with the way the story was told and gave permission.
Reporters kept digging in a very nasty way how they survived, what did they eat, etc. The survivors were very secretive for respect to their death friends families, also ashamed and worry their families friends and the country would judge them. They had a press conference were they answered to reporters questions ONCE instead that addressing the situation 100000 times to every reporter who asked. They asked the reporters and people for respect of their choices considering the very harsh circumstances they had to face. Pancho Delgado (Numa's best friend in the movie was they one who spoke in this conference) He said that Jesus gave his blood and body to save the world so the survivors took their friends bodies and blood for them to be save. Pancho also asked the reporters to please not spoiled with yellow press and judgement an act that was sacred to them and something that was done for pure survival instinct.
The actual survivors made a Kameo in the movie Nando, opened the door to the actor who played him at the airport, Roberto Canessa was one of the Drs in the Hospital when they got rescued, Coche Inciarte reading a newspaper in the bar Numa and his friends were, Daniel Fernandez in the church, Numa's real life nephew passing by Numa's house when he was entering and Carlitos, who read all the survivors names, were is different scenes. The house shown as Numa's house in the movie was actually his real house back in 1972.
The reason why Zerbino would not leave without the suitcase it's because he hoped that tokens from the death people, like personal belongings such as jewelry, rosaries, ID's, letters written before dying were taking back to give to their families. That actually happened the real survivor refused to leave without the suitcase and when back home he personally went to each of the families homes of the passengers that did not survive to give them something that belonged to them, so the families even when not having their bodies back they could have something to remember them by.
In the movie isn't shown but the rescue was in 2 stages. They had to rescue one lot of people that day and the next lot the day after. Some survivors had to stay another night waiting for the other helicopters to arrive. Those left behind the first day were left with food and a team of rescuers. A survivor said most of the rescuers were scared of them after seeing all the human remaining all over the place and made sure the survivors knew they had a gun. Also the smell and dirt was unbearable. Only one rescuer Sergio Diaz, I believe he is called, stayed in the plane with them that night, ate with them and advised them about what they were going to face after everybody knew they have eaten human beings.
There is a man who was part of the search team that were looking for the plane during the rescue missions. His name is Claudio Lucero and he had made quite strong arguments in the media about how he believes the 27 people left alive in the plane after the crash planned and plotted maliciously all the events that happened to them to gain fame. He states they could have left the mountain days before the day they got rescued, but chose to stay longer and go through hunger and lost to become famous and earn money.
Claudio Lucero can suck it
The reason they didn't leave earlier was because of the weather. They had to wait until the thaw begann in order to avoid avalanches and also to be able to endure the cold. Loved your reaction and love this movie 🧡🧡
In real life, Numa never injured his foot by kicking a window in desperation, instead, he just got step on his foot in the middle of the night when someone else was going to the bathroom. I understood the change because of the cinematic reason, but at the same time this event just show how fragile is your life on a situation like that, something so silly like getting step can get you killed in that situation.
The man on the hammock who makes the speech about faith was Arturo Nogueira.
I love this movie. Thank you guys for doing a reaction!
I love the moment towards the end when Nando and Roberto see the Ranger across the stream. It's one guy on horseback in the middle of the wilderness, but that one guy is all of humanity in that moment. Through that one guy they're finally connected to civilization again. Such a brilliant moment in a great film.
I've seen more than a hundred of the movies that have been released this year, and Society of the Snow will remain in my top 10 of 2024, without a doubt.
The epilogue is one of the most moving movie moments I've seen in a while.
Great idea to hire Michael Giacchino to compose the music, we owe him Lost's score, it couldn't be more fitting.
Oh, and Numa is the voice of the dead.
The actor playing Numa is incredible and really hope this is his big break. All the cast are brilliant of course.
I keep seeing the subtitles say the temperature drops 30 degrees just like the narrator speaks. He means celcius. In farenheit, a 30 C drop is about an 86 F drop! So they probably go from a daily of what, 55 F during the day? to some -25 F.
I saw this movie in my mind first since I saw Nando's account on a tv interview which lasted for like 30 minutes. I can't believe the movie is exactly as I pictured it, but he even gave more details of his experience. He said during the avalanche he got trapped and was experiencing death. He couldn't feel his body, see anything. He stopped feeling pain and felt how he was going into dying. At the split of a second, he says, he regained consciousness back into his body.
The craziest thing (among all the crazy things they endured) was that the ones who walked to try and reach the Chilean side had to come back to the plane with the helicopters to show the rescue team exactly where they crashed.
They couldn't walk before. They tryed and couldn't spend 1 night outside without getting frozen to almost death.
The only reason they could do it, it's becouse they found that impermeable cloth
As an Uruguayan, this event is a big part of our history, and this movie truly brings it to life in such a masterful way. As I understand it all the survivors contributed to make it as close to the actual events as possible, and did not shy away from showing even the most graphic scenes, like the eating of the dead. As for not leaving sooner, in the southern hemisphere the seasons are the other way around - so when the plane crashed, it was around spring, and it was only going to get warmer.
30:15 Servino did not leave the suitcase, because there he had staff for all the families which members did not survive.
Interesting fact... some of the survivors have returned many times to the memorial that was erected in the site of the crash. Some of them just can´t do it because of PTSD. The wreckage of the plane has been moving down the mountain for many years now, and it seats today very far away from it´s original position where it landed.
At that altitude it’s impossible even to light a Fire for the lack of Oxigèn!
yeah she kept making so many dumb suggestions and thought she was so much smarter than the ppl actually going through this horrible situation. it was really annnoying.
That's not exactly true: the reason why they could not light a fire was because winds were too strong and snow and cold air just made everything wet; but there is enough oxygen to still light a decent fire. And they tried, meaning they learned (the bad way) they could not have fire in that valley.
@@DocuzanQuitomosplus they didn't have a lot to burn anyway. they needed all the clothes they could get to keep warm, especially since they mostly packed light weather summery clothes for vacation in a city, not such extreme cold. not to mention the materials probably wouldn't burn well or long anyway.
That’s also true what you say, both are!
Also true!
Whats always been crazy to me is that none of them had ever seen snow before they didnt know that what they did whats virtually impossible.and because they didnt know they were able to do the impossible. Remarkable
Highly recommend the book! It's a testament to the humanity behind the tragedy.
hello i am uruguayan and i love your channel, more that you covered this movie. yes this is a true story but not the full story since the survivors choosed to keep some stuff out of movies and books. like when they eat first the raw dead bodies meat and give them vomit and diarhea, and when they started to go mad inside the plane buried in the snow for 4 days. they could not move from the plane since in latin america the winter starts around june and ends on september with spring, then spring ends on summer around december and fall comes around march. so when they crashed they where trapped by winter since in the night time the temperature could go over -90 F (or around -70 C since we use Celsius) so they kept on the plane not because they where afraid, but because they would have died of cold. also the aislating fabric they found on the tale was useful to do a sleep bag for the ones that traveled to chile and assisted in the final rescue.
Some of the survivors made cameos in the movie. The Doctor walking behind Canessa is the real Canessa . The "father" of Carlitos, the man reading the survivor list is the real Carlitos
This film is extremely realistic and sad, the director's attention to detail is impressive, the performances are fantastic, the plot, the story, the narration. That tremendous detail from the director that the narrator dies blew us all away. Numa's character is beautifully perfect, everyone sympathized with him and we died with him when he left. Very painful.!
There is something very interesting about this from the survival point of view. Most of them were spoiled kids from (not rich, but very wealthy families) that spent all their lives going to church and barely nothing else. Nando always tell the story about he didn't even knew how to clean his own clothes when the plane crash, almost nobody had survival skills. Yet, thankfully to the fact that they were a team even before the plane crash, is why they worked together so perfectly, from the minute 0 they worked together and everyone did a different job to keep them alive, that's why "society of the snow", they created a society where everyone had something to do, even the injured ones that weren't capable of stood up, they sat outside with a metal plate and a bottle and their work was to melt snow all day long.
Thank you guys for this reaction and your words at the end. I saw the movie almost a year ago and felt while watching you reacting to each such a big overwhelming feeling about love and friendship. We can only make it in life when there`s TEAM WORK. HUGE HUG TO BOTH OF YOU! Paz Lasca from Buenos Aires Argentina🥰
You said it ….. PERSPECTIVE is everything. … it’s the difference between life an death sometimes
La razon por la que formaron un equipo es porque realmente eran un equipo de rugby que tiene reglas solidaras en las que todos trabajan para el grupo. Lo más fuerte es que su repercusión llega hasta nuetros días. Se han mantenido unidos hasta el dia de hoy, algunos hablando sobre el tema cada dia e incluso dando conferencias. La mayoría han tenido carreras exitosas, otros no quisieron hablar del tema por respeto a los muertos pero todos se reunen todos los años en casa de Canesa y en acontecimientos familiares. Son una gran familia con mucha fortaleza moral.
If this helps Kristen’s anxiety… it seems the accident was caused by the inaccuracy of the instruments of the time (the altitude reading was wrong and so the location) but now that technology is better
The crash investigation is a bit more complex than that (although the advice to Kristen still stands: commerical aviation is way more safe than charter flights in South America in the 1970's).
Here's what happened, if you wish to keep going XD:
1) The airplane was underpowered to fly above the average peaks of The Andes; that's why, to cross them, it needed to use this pass (a low gap in the mountains) to fly from Argentina to Chile... but to do so, they would not be able to be monitored by radar (high mountains bounce radar signals everywhere, rendering radar useless). How that portion of the flight was handled then? By the oldest flight technique ever known to man: dead reckoning.
You basically grab a map, a watch, a compass, a pencil and a ruler and use your speed and heading to guess where you are, and when to make movements like turns. This particular airplane even had one crew member dedicated to that: the navigator. And here is where things were to south in more ways than one.
2) The crossing of the Andes took a minimum of eight minutes (considering winds and speed; but it never took less than eight minutes). The final point to make the turn to the north was over the city of Curico, where a radio beacon was installed, to indicate the end of the crossing after that point. But the crew of the flight indicated they were over Curico and were turning north THREE minutes after they started the crossing (not even half way through that leg of the journey).
Since the air traffic controller was, basically, blind, he had no way of knowing they were turning north too soon; he had to trust the pilots said they were where they said they were. What happened?
Well, that's a mystery that will never be solved: after the crossing started, the navigator left the cockpit and went to drink a coffee in the galley at the tail of the plane (you can spot him, he is the military officer being thrown out when the tail detaches). The pilots also had a radio indicator that pointed to the signal in Curico (this instrument shows where one radio beacon is in relation to the airplane and it helps to detect if you no longer are flying to it; but it doesn't have an alarm); the instrument was recovered from the wreck and it proved it worked (all the time it showed they were flying AWAY of the point they should be flying TO). Still, somehow, the pilots were convinced the plane was over Curico (further west) and they now were flying to the Valley of Santiago; due to the lack of a Voice Recorder, there is no way of knowing why they were so convinced of this, and if they checked the instrument that could have told them they were not in the right flight path.
3) There was no altimeter malfunction; the plane was flying towards rising mountains hidden by low clouds (that plane was going to crash against one, no matter what, after turning north). The air pockets only made matters worse... kind of in a lucky way: the two sudden turbulences and drops depicted happened and they made the plane drop drastically closer to the mountains (that were already rising to meet them); when the airplane broke the cloud cover, and the pilots saw nothing but peaks, they tried to climb over them and they aimed to a gap in one of the peaks.
Aiming to the gap was a good choice (impacting the side of a mountain at +300 km/h means death); but they botched the attempt to climb them: they pointed the nose up to clear the peak and that stalled the plane.
An airplane flies because its wings have air flowing smoothly over the wing; that produces lift. If you want more speed (and more lift) you need to point the nose down (so more air runs over the wings); pointing the nose up reduces the amount of air running over the wing, which reduces lift, which makes the plane sink in the air (literally). In the last moments, with a plane not made to sudden climbs, the aircraft sank the few meters it could have gained and it hit the mountain at full speed.
This led to the problem why, in part, no rescue plane spotted them in the first place too: according to all evidence, the plane should have been along the regular route (when, in reality, it had flown away from it, by a lot).
I love how Vivian expressed herself! I share the same opinions about the film. I had the fortune of meeting Roberto Canessa not too long ago. It is amazing how vividly he remembers these events.
If you get the chance, compare the cast photos to the originals and you can see how amazing the casting was.
this movie is so tragic yet so beautiful... such a masterpiece
At minute 31:43 the doctor holding Roberto Canesa by the shoulders is the real Roberto Canesa... I advise you to now watch any of the dozens of interview videos on UA-cam with Fernando Parrado and Roberto Canesa... You will enjoy these two heroes...
Movies based on true stories are always intense to watch, like this one, The Impossible, and Hotel Mumbai-they’re packed with suspense!” Survival instincts to the Max!!!!
_In the Heart of the Sea_ was also a great film, based on true events
As nando said the survival instinct is the strongest instinct to most species on this planet. A dog would chew off its own leg to survive.
So for those who don't know. Nando and Canessa walked 37.5 miles over 10 days through the mountain. A incredible feat. The first mountain they climbed took three days, and Nando named the mountain Mount Seller after his father. Nando takes a back seat in this movie, but he was the biggest driving force in getting out. To have the courage to do what he did despite losing his mum and sister, It's crazy he actually survived. Google his head injury. A fractured skull and in a coma. He was left for dead and put at the back of the fuselage which kept him alive. The cold protected his injured brain
The film is a masterpiece, but there's so much more to this story. If you are interested in investigating further there are many books which explore it in detail, some written by the survivors, from Peter Paul Read's best-seller "Alive!" to Pablo Vierci's "Society of the snow" which the film is based upon to John Guiver's exhaustive "To play the game". Nando, Roberto, Coche, Eduardo , Carlitos and Pedro Algorta memoirs are must read too.
Thank you so much for reacting to this and thank you for doing it in spanish. You should watch a monster calls and the impossible. They are other masterpieces by Bayona and I think you are going to love them
The meat never went bad because of the low temperatures. They had the bodies freezed in the snow and took meat everytime they needed.
Guys, this is a true story so a little disrespectful to be pointing out what you would do or what they should be doing. We have no clue what this would be like to live through thankfully.
yeah it was really offputting and gross tbh.
27:29 - There's no way they would have survived that hike in the beginning they had to wait for the weather to warm up, it's a miracle they survived as it is.
yeah that blonde girl made so many stupid suggestions that wouldn't have worked, they had already tried or would have got them killed. she would have died day one out there yet she thought she was so clever and judged the boys so harshly multiple times.
Nice reaction!! Greetings from Uruguay
40 years later, the survivors played the rugby game they going to play the day of the crash
In the real events, they didn't have helicopters and team to extract everybody, so they took the injured ones and sent three people from the rescue team to stay one more night with them (of course with food and all). But it is known that the rescue didn't want to sleep next to them, they were afraid because of how used where the survivors to death and being with a corpse next to you.
The survivors struggled a lot when they came back, society called them cannibals for a while, it was awful. We, as society, we were extremely ignorant and unemphatic with it. Later we all understood. But it took a while.
The term is " necrophagy " which is the act of eating meat from a dead body. While cannibalism as we know is the act of killing and eat. Is just a word, but it changes everything, that's why they asked to learn what that word means, so all don't called them cannibals
omg yeeeeessssssss i just got done watching this and was hoping for this reaction yeeeessss!!!!!
Los sobrevivientes reales hicieron una reunión donde cuentan toda la experiencia en la montaña , es realmente hermosa su historia
ty both, glad they gave us their after thoughts
They had to wait until the snow melted to be able to walk. They could not have walked in the beginning
Fantàstic reaction for a fantàstic movie. ❤❤❤
See? I love these types of films. I mean, everything else is fine but, let's get to the reality of things. How would you handle or deal with these situations. Just like James Franco in 24. Limited supplies to survive. What?!? Would?!? You do????? 😱
Love this!
33:27 that actually has a name, it's "the indomitable human spirit", and often times the question poised, perse or the thought exercise because I don't really know what to call it, is "the indomitable human spirit vs the indifferent cruelty of the universe".
Ojalá pudieran ver alguna de sus entrevistas!
This movie is awesome and like this reaction 🥰
Love this movie so much
They couldnt walk right away. It was 10 weeks previous and they had no food.
great movie
That's also the real Carlitos portraying his own father.
Numas death broke me I felt dead inside for a long time
This is the type of movie you have to watch in the native language. I'd hate for it to be dubbed.
30:15 It’s not the real footage, but a recreation of it. It is incredibly close to it, though, the only thing that changes is some angles of the fuselage
29:37 the man who say my son... is one of the survivors...is real carlos paez
Omg i was looking for this reaction as im a recent subscriber so happy to see this!!!
Porque está película no gano un oscar??? Alguien puede explicarme, más aún que esté año las películas fueron de un nivel muy bajo!!! Saludos desde Uruguay
Fácil: se une el hecho de que las películas de Netflix y otras no están bien vistas, con que está en español y el director también lo es. Los directores de otros países que no pertenecen a la anglosfera o a un país de moda, lo tienen aún más difícil.
Pero que sepas que arrasó en los Premios Goya (en España), llevándose casi todos los premios existentes, y también fue muy bien recibida en otros países.
Hollywood está en crisis y aún no se da cuenta que este tipo de comportamiento sólo les desprestigia más.
Hermosa película ❤
29:39 The real survivor Carlitos Paez
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I remember being way too young to watch it but still seeing the US adaptation of this story in the 90s: Alive! No joke one of the most impactful movies I've ever seen. The avalanche scene has been the hardest for me to watch in both films, btw. This movie, though, my god what a film. Alive will always have a special place in my heart, but this one is such a phenomenal film
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This is a remake of the movie Alive from 1993 starring Ethan Hawk. In my opinion its better
Watch Tyler Perry’s Madea movies list are:
• Meet the Browns
• Madea Goes to Jail
• I Can Do Bad All by Myself
• Madea’s Big Happy Family
• Madea’s Witness Protection
• A Madea Christmas
• Tyler Perry’s Madea’s Tough Love
• Boo! A Madea Halloween
• Boo 2! A Madea Halloween
• A Madea Family Funeral
• A Madea Homecoming
07:57 ... warmer... south america. 😅
Please react to more Ryan George. That’s my favorite thing from you guys!
Thanks for the reaction. It's a great movie. The 1993 version is great as well with Ethan Hawke in the lead, never thought there will be another movie until this one just popped up. One of the books (the one by Piers Paul Read) is a good read as well. Always read it with my students in the last year before graduation (age 16). Even teenagers that don't read much are interested in this one. Very thrilling and gripping book.
Please be mindful when reading with your students, and take into account that PPR apologized to the survivors because he felt he misrepresented them in the book, and that he didn’t understand the community they created. The most obvious cases being Pancho Delgado, Tintín, Roy Harley and Bobby Francois.
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this movie gave me anxiety for MONTHS
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will the gentlemen be watching this?
Watching Kristen makes my day ;)