US Navy Reveals TERRIFYING Truth Behind The OceanGate Submarine Tragedy | Titan Documentary
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2023
- US navy heard implosion. We dive deep into the thrilling and tragic story of OceanGate's submersible, the Titan, in our new documentary. This engaging narrative charts the heart-stopping search and rescue operations led by the US Navy and Coast Guard, 900 miles east of Cape Cod, following the mysterious disappearance of the Titan.
Discover the chilling reality of a race against time, as the rescue teams faced harsh weather conditions, poor visibility and a fast-depleting oxygen supply aboard the submersible. Unearth the shocking delay in the alert sent out about the Titan's disappearance and ponder over the numerous speculations regarding this strange occurrence.
Learn about the involvement of various entities, from the Canadian armed forces to commercial and research vessels, in this massive operation. But what was the biggest concern during this rescue mission? Surprisingly, it wasn't the depth or the limited oxygen supply, but the Titan's very structure.
Explore the harrowing narrative of this experimental carbon-fiber vessel that went dark, leading to terrifying speculations about its hull being compromised, making it fragile during recovery or even a possible total failure. Gain insights into the chilling events leading up to the discovery of debris from the Titan near the Titanic wreckage on the seafloor and the unfortunate implosion that led to the loss of lives.
Intriguingly, the U.S. Navy, with its high-tech acoustic detection system, had picked up the sound of this implosion hours after the Titan started its voyage. But why didn't they immediately disclose this information? And what did the US Navy hear in Titan Submarine's last moments? #titan #oceangate #usnavy
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The hero we need.
Thanks. I am so sick of the same shit over and over. They need to just get to the point.
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you deserve the best 🧠
thank you
They weren’t a group of “Intrepid explorers” they were billionaire tourists, a kid that didn’t want to be there, a negligent CEO and a Titanic Expert. They were classified as crew falsely so that ocean gate could reduce their liability.
Friendly reminder that Hamish Harding was on Epstein's list
yeah, they kept being referred to as crew, by many news outlets across the world.
@@D3v611Am I an explorer if I go to Paris to explore the Eiffel tower?🤔
I feel so bad for the kid. What kind of parent does that? I can't understand why the mother didn't put a stop to it. If that was me, and my hubby wanted my son to do something so risky, and my son was clearly not happy to do, there would be no chance of my child going anywhere. I know sometimes we have to encourage our kids to try and overcome their fears, but that doesn't include things that are so risky that they have to sign an agreement that stated that they could die in the process!
@@D3v611 Well the mother is as bad as the father was. They had to sign their life away ffs. The son could've been so worried about losing both of his parents so took her place, but either way they were wrong to let him go on such a wreckers, pointless trip.
Imagine diving In an "unbreakable" sub, to visit the "unsinkable" boat!
You could not pay me any amount of money to get in that thing even on dry land. And cinched in from the outside?
Just no.
Both named Titan (ic)
@@transvonjngthe titans ultimately were defeated!!
They were taken down and never on top again! Some symbolism for ya huh
Hail Satan 🤘
Hail Satan 🤘
It is sad that these people died. It is silly to pretend that they were noble. They simply had money and bad judgement
Just like the Titanic, people died from people's foolishness, especially by ignoring warnings because of arrogance and pride
31 000 palestian civilians !?
The son seemed to have the most sense out of all of them!
Tf is wrong with you??@@strangevideos3048
@@glenforde6558 Lives were lost, which is tragic, but I find it even more so for the son. He was just a kid and from my understanding, was only obliged by his father because he requested he join him for Father's Day. Allegedly, he didn't even want to go! It hurts to think about.
First rule I learned from my SCUBA instructor: " Never fight the ocean. It always wins."
Never forgotten those words.
And an old sailor told me as a child, NEVER, NEVER disturb a shipwreck. It is a underwater grave and the lost souls will retaliate those who dare to disrespect them. Rush was trying to profit on the underwater grave of over 1500. I'm surprised it took so long, especially when you take into account the cutting corners all motivated by his greed to profit off the loss of others. This was not a scientific dive, nothing more than a tourist trap. Literally.
So true. And applies to riptides at the beach. Riptides don't kill people, panic does. Same principle with to diving.
Thats a great rule.
that’s great.
When you think you have beaten mother nature (The Sea) wait a second because you will be in the water or at the bottom of the ocean. Consider all the ship that have sunk at sea it a single moment.🤨 I served 21 years in the US Navy and have experienced seas that could have sank my ships several times if we had not been well prepared.
EBW USN Ret
Servant of God
Our government needs to search for our kidnapped children as much as they do for adults that took this risk. It's maddening.
This
Our government needs to do just about everything they're not doing, and stop doing most of the things they are doing 😒
@@richardparker3273 very good job at specificity! Hahaha 🤣 Care to actually make a point?
I mean, that isn’t really the same thing. If you look at searches of woods and stuff for missing people, they tend to be as relatively through
Amen
My wife and I were a part of the live stream and the announcement of the game plan to take payment for people to dive into the deep. Being a fan of titanic lore, wifey jumped on board,(figuratively of course. ) we spoke about the idea with the founder and his initial plan was 250k each. We had thought about being married down deep at the Titanic. Time passed and the idea was inspiring, so we decided to go. Oceangate saw the opportunity to upcharge and make money on us so we went back to just a dive w/o the wedding. We were scheduled initially for the march 23 dive. But we decided that the dive wasn’t for us when my wife found out the sub was not classified. I’m alive today because of her intuition.
And God's deliverance!!❤
The best I told you so ever, can't even be mad if she said it lol.
Crazy fact; they ran out of oxygen way before 72 hours.
I can think of a lot better places to get married than an ocean graveyard! So glad you’re still with us. Smart lady!
And then she left the oven on
They weren't "shedding new light on the tragic Titanic story". They were Titanic tourists, plain and simple.
and continuously referring to them as "the crew" doesn't change that. Rush was the captain and crew. The other 4 were passengers.
Titanic was sunk. It was a "Berg" just not an "ice-berg". And the federal reserve happened the year later. Oceangate [think pizzagate, watergate] name sounds like they were trying to prove there was a conspiracy involved with Titanic and the iceberg narrative. Same people who control Hollywood who brought you Titanic, are the same people who owned the papers back when.
What a strange question: "could OceanGate have done a better job in ensuring their customer's safety?" Well, being as their customers were squished into a fine paste, I would say the answer is "yes, they could have done a better job."
Explain how mr scientist...
@@kygodragon4782 Don't use carbon fiber that shatters under stress. Get third party certifications of the vessel. Don't hire a bunch of diversity hires and brag about not wanting White men as engineers. That would be a good start.
@@kygodragon4782 How about simply listening to EVERYONE in the submersible filed that told them the whole idea was flawed and should be redesigned from the ground up.
@kygodragon4782 Carbon fiber does not have the structural integrity to withstand the 5000+ lbs of pressure present at that diving depth. Scientific enough for you, Mr. Sarcasm?
@@ghostlygent No, there was litearrly no science in your comment... Or do you think because you typed "lbs" you are smart? Didn't work kid.
David Lockridge is a hero. He put his conscience before money and blew the whistle. A GREAT man, in my opinion. Very rare to see morals before your job nowadays.
where are his response? Im sure he feels bad but not one comment from him after accident.
He did his due diligence to try and stop Stockton rush from killing people with his recklessness
@@bikelifewithalex120 He wants to avoid any lawsuits. Don't blame him.
Crushed by a woke implosion of colorful diversity. Gosh it just feels fuzzy ya know? SO fuzzy!
@@baneverything5580 You didn’t do well at school I guess…
The worst thing about the OceanGate tragedy is that it could have easily been avoided by adhering to stringent safety management. Instead they ignored safety and it cost the lives of 5 people. Never, ever ignore safety concerns.
The person behind the safety program is what makes it safe. You can go through all the process, its only a matter how? Having an OSHA stamp would not have made it safer. With all the shoddy materials, firing of responsible people to push a 'dream' should raise the flag right there.
And maybe the CEO should have avoided his policy of deliberately not hiring "50 year old white engineers". I had to replay the video the make sure I heard him right.
Very Wise and Appropriate observation and advice.
@tchman yeah you heard right, everybody heard it yet not many talk about it, we could have come to that conclusion even without him saying it but damn, he said it^^ and he paid for it with his life, sadly he had to bring other lives with him...
It came down to a choice between money and safety, and we know which choice was made here.
The Titanic should be left alone.
Agreed
I agree 100%
It really should like theirs nothing left their for people to see it’s rusting away and plus i find it disrespectful that they go down their cause that’s literally peoples graves leave them be 👎🏾
I'm a Submarine veteran. I had to graduate submarine school after boot camp. Sub school is a weeding-out process where I and the others in my class were subjected to different types of stressful scenarios to see if we were capable of responding to emergency situations and claustrophobic environments. Our class began with 30 I believe and graduated about half I was one but I could/would not do it today as an old man. Navy submarines do not can not operate in the depths that submersibles do which is more dangerous. My point is that you need training and I just do not think it is suitable for tourism if someone has a health or mental breakdown could be serious
Thank you! Excellent response!😊
Interesting deduction but know one really knows what happen but your big mouth 2 cents is about average... Your future enjoy it.... THREADS
I wanted to go on subs when I joined the Navy but I washed out because I found out I was claustrophobic AF.
@@dragonflydreamer7658 Brother are you ewer full of shit. You obviously have never been on the broken end of a bottle.
It's like taking 4 random people off the street and asking them to crew a mission to space.
As a former U.S. Navy submariner, I can confirm that it didn't matter if the carbon fiber used was brand new and perfect or old and falling apart. It should not have been used to make a submersible craft going down that deep in the ocean. Kind of like putting rubberbands around a wheel of car instead of a tire. Also, the U.S. Navy does not use game controllers for anything on a ship. At least not on the Ohio class submarine I made 4 patrols on.
Thank you for your service 🙏
What is your professional opinion of the actual shape of Titan? Could that have also played a part in the implosion?
expired carbon fiber is news reporting fodder. Of course it's meaningless but gee whiz it sounds so sinister. "He used expired carbon fiber ! ! OMG, how negligent ! ! " lmao.
BOOMER CLASS
The have no expertise or relevant education and training. But my common sense tells me that carbon fibre isn't strong enough because if a large truck drives over the carbon fibre hull of a boat it will break. Knowing 1 litre of water weight 1 kilo that isn't a good material to be under that weight of water. I don't think he really cared, he wanted to be famous and rich. He's now famous unfortunately as a person who ended the life of 4 people
As an engineer who has used many different sorts of plain and composite materials for all sorts of structures, I can't get my head around the choice of a fibre composite for a sub hull. The point about a fibre-reinforced composite such as glass or carbon strands, is that it adds tensile strength to the plastic matrix. Fibres resist it when you pull them in tension. I've used them in silos and pressure vessels where the pressure inside is elevated - for which they are great. But when you push the ends of a fibre together, it just collapses in a loop. In an externally- pressured vessel, the structure is purely in compression so the fibres are doing nothing, the plastic matrix is carrying all the compression. This is the basic theory of use of reinforced concrete - the steel fibres carry any tension, but the concrete takes the load in compression. So I can't see what benefit the presence of fibres has at all - they are at best passengers, or at worst could help to weaken the plastic, encouraging the propagation of cracks through the matrix as the compressive force cycles. It would surely be better (stronger and more stable) to just make it out of unreinforced cast plastic resin, preferably made in a single cast to minimise discontinuities in the structure.
Was this really as stupid as it sounds? Is it the schoolboy error it seems to me? Or am I missing something here?
Good summary.
Stupid - yes
CEO Hubris - yes
James Cameron gave a good explanation of the difference between the internal pressure differential between and aircraft fuselage at typical cruising altitude, and the external one on a submersible's hull at deep ocean depths, and made the same point as to why carbon fibre was totally unsuited for the hull material.
I’m no engineer, but just LOOKING at photos of the Titan, I can see how badly it’s put together. The joins don’t sit flush - see for example towards the front of the craft, where there almost appears to be a crack (might just be the lighting). Claustrophobia aside, there is NO WAY I would go in there. And if it’s true they bought the material from Boeing, who considered it sub-standard for use on an aircraft, well, enough said.
but fibre sounds cool and strong
you wouldnt understand you arent an explorer like me! now bon voyage to the titanic!
As well as too many dissimilar materials expanding/contracting at different rates at extreme pressures over and over.
The 19 yr old being aboard and trusting the adults with his safety and life was what really broke my heart. My son is a year or two older than him, and I could see he was an innocent and a sweetheart, like my son. It makes me hug my son a lot more. This was so unfair to him, with so much life that should have been still left for him to live. The one guy said the thing was making crackling noises when he had been on it. Just scary. Lots of broken rules for safety. This was so wrong and terrible. I wish they would have stopped this guy before he was able to take people with him. It's one thing to risk your own life, but not the lives of others. ❤ 🙏
hes an adult as well . its sad he died though .
19 is adult, just ask the military.
He didn't want to go
As someone who has broken a total of two carbon fiber mountain bike frames, believe me when I say that old carbon fiber is MUCH weaker than new carbon fiber.. One bike frame that was made in 2006 broke completely in half at the top tube and down tube ( the two tubes that would be between your legs if you were straddling the bike) causing a horrible crash in 2015. The second frame broke at the headset/toptube/downtube junction and just cracked. That carbon frame was only 6 years old. My current bike has a steel frame and I'll be keeping it that way. Whoever ok'ed old materials to be used 100% had zero knowledge of carbon fiber and hopefully will be held accountable
Carbon fiber is brittle and hate vibration/shock. the stronger the material the more brittle. fellow bike racers I knew in the early 90s told me the frame transmitted that shock all the way through to them carbon fiber was a MAJOR mistake
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I work in an arena...we have a big pile of broken carbon fibre hockey sticks in the back. They break all the time.
Meanwhile, I'm still tearing it up on my steel alloy road bike that was once my dad's when he was in high school... in the 70s. (And it's comfy and not rough like a carbon fiber frame is.)
It seems as if the person who gave the OK was on board the submersible and holding on to his game controller; therefore he won't be held accountable.
The US navy didn't keep the sound anomaly a secret at all. They passed the information on to the coast guard who were responding to the call for help. Just because they didn't declare it to the press doesn't mean they were hiding it or keeping it a secret. The coast guard HAD to presume the submersible was missing even with that information because the anomaly heard/detected is only interpretive and could have been anything else as well. We only know it was an implosion 100% sure now because we found the debris. Underwater sounds/signals are hard enough to interpret and we do the same on land - if you hear a loud bang in the next room, you can't just presume someone got shot and there's no point checking.
There is no coincidences anymore with timing of information release.
IIRC they did say, early on, that they'd heard noises but couldn't be certain whether they were from Titan, or Titanic.
They kept some of the circumstances of it a secret. A whole lot of operational security issues with the Navy's sonar capabilities, which I can assure you from personal experience, and beyond. your wildest dreams.
@@yourmomsdildo3938its less of a coincidence that such a comment would be posted by a fw like you
I'm sure you will find out, in future, that in private they would have already told the families that they detected an implosion, or at least that they were all certainly dead.
They wouldn't release that to the press until the search has concluded, for....... many reasons, that I'm sure you can imagine yourself.
Stockton Rush was the Millenial version of Dr John Hammond, in "Jurrasic Park". It's just too bad that no one like Jeff Goldblum was around to tell HIM beforehand, "Your scientists were so preoccupied with wondering whether or not they COULD, they didn't stop to think about whether or not they SHOULD."
Amen ❤
Ive worked on LA class and Ohio class submarines for twenty years. When i heard about the accident i knew how deep they were but had no idea about the actual vessel they were diving in. When i looked it up I couldn't believe that that vessel had ever been that deep before and that it is reused for consecutive dives. Anyone with the knowledge of this topic will tell you this was almost guaranteed to happen.
Search and rescue expenses should not have been paid from taxes. Those who were financing the mission should be held financially accountable for this search and rescue operation.
The ones who financed it were inside of it.
The SAR activities especially the different agencies and private entities got good experience from this. Should there be a need for a submarine from our Navy or Canada or anyone else to be rescued, these resources are better equiped to work together to potentially save a crew. This effort should be treated as a learning experience just as practice SAR exercises are. Also hopefully others in trouble on or under the seas should know to get help as soon as possible. It wasn't a complete loss of taxpayer money. A lot of the money spent would have been spent anyway like salaries and much of the fuel. Cost estimates really should show expenses over normal day to day operating costs.
Not having the submersible tested by anyone else was criminal. Especially things that have never been attempted before should be undertaken with caution not arrogance. The submersible had dove deep before and survived intact, but the effects on the integrity of the pressure hull of multiple dives most likely contributed to 5 senseless deaths.
@@TerryKeeverI'm with you 100% on the costs being incurred whether this happened or not. All of the Navy, all of the Coast Guard, and many of the other resources were things that would have been being used during that time whether this incident occurred or not. The cost in the context in which the video seems to imply is actually for any additional equipment like the commercial robot submarine that was brought in.
ABSOLUTELY, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!! Tax paying suckers like you and I get into a car accident that's no fault of ours and even with medical coverage the ridiculous bills for everything under the sun start flowing in, ambulance, tow trucks ect ect, this dick's estate should be responsible for every last penny of this response, no doubt!!!
Whatever happened to David Lockridge before I hope he is able to secure the highest paid job in his field. The guy had enough integrity and guts to at least try prevent the tragedy. Huge respect to him
Also that other father and son who decided not to go because they didn't think it was safe enough.
@@BobbyT-yj1cw If he had indeed called every "paying customer" to warn or otherwise dissuade them from going on any expedition with Oceangate, he would've been opening himself up to a serious lible case by Oceangate! Business is business and especially when customers are paying "a quarter mil a seat", you can bet the legal threats and lawyers would've been implemented had anyone interfered with any customers. As far as the argument about, "Everyone knew the risks" that's not necessarily true. There have been more people shot into space than there has been sent to depths anywhere approaching the Titanic wreck site. This whole, "extreme thrill seekers/danger explorers" market niche is a cottage industry and only relatively new. There are no written rules and playbooks that exist as a result of decades of experience learned via many trips to the oceans greatest depths while hauling multitudes of people down there. The mention of Boeing selling that carbon fiber to Oceangate is a new discovery to me. I can see the lawyers lining up now. They would be one of the targets in an ambulance chasers sights that are looking for the largest and deepest pockets to attempt to dig in after this catastrophe...
@@BobbyT-yj1cw I heard there were 91 "dives" but the majority were aborted - one after just 40 feet. So there would be an extensive passenger list for a fired employee to go rogue and try to privately contact.
Being a whistle-blower is a frightening and challenging role. Corporations and organizations do an unrelenting job of disparaging anyone who speaks out or asks questions about irregularities. The goal is not malicious. It is to improve outcomes and safety. Lockridge was doing that. Anyone who can verify accounts refuses to speak up because they are afraid for their jobs. Having spoken up about issues, I have been treated respectfully in two instances, and adjustments were made. I have also been targeted and it is disheartening.
@@cherylburkhead1334 I think Rush threatened to destroy this man reputation - how stuck up was that? The sad irony is that Rush, who said he was insulted when told he was risking lives, actually ending up taking 4 lives with his own. Plus Rush was a liar according to this one man who said Rush lied about blaming the weather when the submersible had issues. The more I learn, the more I find it hard to believe that those poor passengers were aware of the actual risks.
You couldn't have paid me a million dollars to get into that thing and bolt me in from the outside. Are you nuts?😮
Nobody is paying you tho lol
@@DerexLuvsJenkins Which makes it even more insane.
@@jerardnorgren3411 true
@@DerexLuvsJenkins To me that would be kinda be like being buried alive. I wonder what they were thinking when that first crack / leak / or noise was heard? For their sake I hope they at least got to see the Titanic in the distance.
That's a sacred buriel ground and nobody really should be messing with that.
@@jerardnorgren3411 they didn’t see the titanic, they were only 10,000 feet down, when it ran out of power and it was pitch black they were still 2000 feet above it before they imploded, and other other words, they didn’t get to see anything lol
Someone got ahold of the transcript from the mother ship. They knew they were going to implode if they did not ascend fast enough, and it wasn’t. Likely due to the owners negligence it wasn’t ascending at the rate that it should. The alarm meant to signal that the pressure was causing catastrophic damage to the submarine was blaring for 30 minutes ish until it finally imploded. Until this was revealed I was relieved to hear that they did not suffer from such fear as it had happened instantaneously. It hurts my heart now knowing that they knew what was happening, and they knew they would lose their lives. I don’t particularly feel back for Rush, but I feel especially empathetic to the boy that was on board.
And I'm sure you did your due diligence and fact checked the details before regurgitating this information right? Right....
People are so worried about contributing something even if it's complete nonsense.
Truth is Jack was still bitter about Rose letting him sink from that large piece of debris that was clearly large enough for 2 people and has vowed revenge on anyone getting near the Titanic.
I’m still in disbelief that something like this can happen in this day and age.
Oceangate is criminally negligent for the death of 5 people for failing to prove to regulatory authorities that their vessel was safe to operate in an extreme environment.
Firing someone for reaching out to OSHA should have been a HUGE red flag!
what do you mean with: this day and age? that is so arrogant. People now are as unaware as they have always been.
at least two reasons, corporate greed and people believing they know more than experts.
Ocean Gate's ceo was killed. So who do you go after.
@@bananka4905the engineers who said the vessel was safe to operate for a start. Just because Rush died, doesn't mean there aren't others responsible.
@@eduardscharisI think he means in modern life it's unbelievable that people who are well educated are stupid enough to do things like ignoring industry safety standards in an extremely hazardous environment. He's not being arrogant....
Apparently, the most relevant question is: could Ocean Gate have done a worse job than it already did?
Could have bobbed back to the surface and then violently tumbled around as a small white tube in the foamy North Atlantic for several days with no food, water or toilet until the people eventually suffocated while staring out the window at the sky. If you're going to die in an Oceangate sub, abrupt decompression early in the journey isn't the absolute worst.
WDYM? They did a good job. A good job of what not to do.
If they had used cardboard soaked in linseed oil instead of carbon fibre.
@@notzathrosThey could have escaped at the surface all they'd need would be a pocket knife.
@@Alef.93 No linseed oil and ATF in a 50-50 mix, old timers used that on old lapstrake boats, superb water deflection
In reading a number of articles about such collapses, the mechanism is ultra-violent and ultra-fast. Pressures compare with those in a diesel engine ( CR:19 to 1) and whatever hydrocarbons in the chamber reach the combustion point. No bodies left. But it is faster than the initial pain can be sent to the brain.
These guys are why I have started keeping an eye out for an opportunity to tell someone not to Rush into something.
I have been down to the Titanic wreck, and have been to the top of Everest many times. I have travelled to different countries, wandered down the streets and all thanks to UA-cam, and Google earth.
Amen.❤
Exactly and one probably sees more of the titanic in the documentary or footage instead of out of a small submersible window. They must not have been claustrophobic.
Corporate manslaughter!
What is so ironic is that in 1898, English author Morgan Robertson wrote a book called "Futility." It was
about a huge "unsinkable" Atlantic liner named the TITAN. In the book, the Titan strikes an iceberg on a cold April night and sinks with a large loss of life. Its now April 1912. The "unsinkable" White Star liner "Titanic" puts to sea, strikes an iceberg and sinks with a large loss of life. Now a submersible named "Titan" is lost descending to the Titanic. This almost sounds like a Twilight Zone episode.
I fully agree that tourist travel to the Titanic should be prohibited! It is a grave site, NOT a tourist attraction.
I concur fully with your last statement- it is a mass grave. The fact that this site would be a 'tourist destination' for wealthy, low-IQ individuals is morbid, but the outcome was perfectly just, poetically.
This is just so wild, and the titanic tragedy story seems to go on and on.
Since when are cemeteries not supposed to be visited? Ever been to a cemetery yourself or even heard of Arlington National Cemetery?
Utter stupidity ! I bet you believe in Nostradamus and astrology as well
@@DigiLab360It's not a cemetery where people can pay their respects. It's the site of the aftermath of a significant tragedy, not a place for lookey-loos to gape and gawk at in ghoulish curiosity.
The initial investor from Las Vegas, who was offered a bargain price for seating, if you want to call it seating, could see all the Red flags involved with this submersible craft. His pulling out, should have alerted the eventual "explorers " of the dangers they faced. The implosion obviously occurred during descent and all the assets deployed would have been on a recovery operation rather than a rescue attempt from the outset.This video presentation was very well done.
In case I missed it, how long was it from the time of deployment to the time of the implosion sound heard by the navy?
Sounds like the CEO had plenty of warnings and due to arrogance suffered the consequences. A similar fate to the Titanic. The unfortunate issue is he took four other souls with him.
Maybe he was afraid of old age and subconsciously was looking for a quick death. People are very illogical and emotional creatures and make mistakes. That's why we have engineering reviews and work as teams. Putting all faith in one man is risky. But even NASA crashed TWO Shuttles for the pretty much the same reason - they thought the risk was OK and underestimated it.
He joined the souls of the titanic because of the same reason
Humans never learn
Sad the the CEO F'd around and the passengers had to do the finding out.
Exactly what james cameron said
It was kept a secret
The fact that they knew they were cutting corners, is enough to say that they definitely could have done better.
More than just that
It's a literal crime scene at this point
Unfortunately, it's always been normal to cut corners. Generally takes two crashes to correct the deficits.
Imagine if a car company or an airline or any tourist company started "cutting corners" with safety protocol. This spoiled rich guy actually fired then sued his own safety inspector because the inspector said it was untested and therefore could implode. We need to find that judge that heard that case, and put them in jail too. That's literally criminal abuse of the legal system resulting in loss of life.
If they we're already dead, what was making the knocking sound at regular intervals?
My exact question too???
Sponge bob
What really saddens me most, is in an effort for "conservation", Stockton took a huge amount of carbon fiber into the ocean and exploded it for all the marine life to now live with.
The three tourists could have rationalized their internal fear by telling themselves repeatedly that the owner / designer would not be on board unless the submersible was completely safe.
Tourist prefer Cancun
Absolutely
When u play with double edge sword u will eventually get cut
Wow, I’ve considered a lot of hypothetical scenarios since this drama began but not this POV yet…I agree whole heartedly. Sooooo easy to rationalize in that situation…seems almost predatory now that i think of it that way. Like Rush maybe fetishized “dying for his creation “ like so many before him.
familiarity breeds contempt. 'Nothing will go wrong I've done this loads of times before' said the CEO
I am a Navy veteran and a commercial diver, and have spent the majority of my younger working years on the docks. I will tell you, trying to profit off a wreck that is also a gravesite breaks about every traditional law of the sea. I feel James Cameron did honor to the wreck, but these guys were plundering the wreck in a repetitive & disrespectful way and were punished for their greed. You do not ever push that luck out there. RIP.
You should see the videos of WWII sunken vessels being cut up and recovered because the metal is extremely valuable because metals not under hundreds of feet of water in 1945 have become irradiated following the nuclear bomb explosions done in the atmosphere. Human remains recovered along with the metal are just thrown in the local landfill.
@@AbbyNormL Let me guess, those videos start popping up when you watch geniuses talk about wifi cancer and powerline death rays. Sounds super legit. Radiation bad. Let's go spend a billion dollars fishing up salty scrap metal. Its half-life is infinity, man. Me so smart.
@@amarissimus29 Maybe get your facts straight before replying like a snarky a-hole because she's mostly right. The part where she's wrong is that the steel isn't radiated because it was smelted before the atomic era and not because the water protects it, so there's little to no radiological impurities in the steel. It's very valuable for ultra sensitive scientific and medical equipment because any modern made steel emits much more radiation.
Or are you arguing that it isn't happening? Because China just got caught illegally chopping the HMS Prince of Wales and the HMS Repulse. Part of the reason they got caught is because anything non-metallic was being thrown into a local Malaysian landfill.
Well said.
Veterans fight for the freedom of these people to do just that. How about honoring that.
❤Ok Navy Lessons Learned. NEVER DEPLOY ANY CRAFT in the ocean without a BEACON installed in it and tested. My heart goes out to the families of lives lost. May they be with God resting in Peace.
sorry for the question, what is the song that they used for this video?
I think the Coast Guard made the right move. From an ethical standpoint, I would shut my mouth and keep searching until I found the debris that proves it was an implosion.
One would think
If nothing else, they had to locate the wreckage for their formal investigation. They may as well do it like there were survivors to rescue.
You can not automatically assume it was that stupid little sub when you first hear the noise. The report they were missing did not come until hours after the implosion so in those first hours those who heard the noise could only guess as to what it was.
It wasn't the CG that withheld the info, but the Navy...most likely from seafloor hydrophones that are part of the Navy's SOSUS network (Sound Surveillance System), the same system that triangulated the implosion of the USS Scorpion in '68.
Absolutely...almost like a damned if you do and damned if you don't...lol
What's mind-blowing is not only did they use carbon fiber but the fact that it had expired and to think that Stockton thought that was good to use for his submersible! It's insanity!!!!
Yeah and he was so sure of it that he put his own life at risk and behind it. Which showed just how much he believed in its safety.
honestly the fact that it was expired doesn’t really matter- using carbon fiber period for a deep sea dive capsule is a huge mistake
He was extremely tight for a man with money
Considering carbon fiber for any part of a sub is insanity. Carbon fiber is used where there is less atmosphere, he put it under 12x the atmospheric pressure than ground level
I’m not trying to defend Rush but he did design a submersible that made multiple dives to the titanic and other sites. This engineering worked at the beginning. The problem was Rush had the ego to believe he had engineered a vessel that many said couldn’t de done, a new generation that would expand the human reach of the deep seas. Because of this ego he refused to properly test and class this vessel. And there lies the rub.
Sad that the taxpayers have to flip the recovery bill for negligent company without insurance
All the warnings he was giving by professionals and he ignored it the man was clearly on a suicide mission and was scared to die alone so brought unsuspecting people with him to be doomed scary never kno what somebody thinking smh
I spent way more than I could afford at the time I bought all my scuba gear. Getting regular services on all equipment and paying attention to detail ensures equipment never fails and that you always have a backup if it does. The last thing any diver needs is a critical gear failure at depth. You can never spend enough on any life support system for a hostile environment. Titans fate was just a matter of time very sadly😔
Buying old carbon fiber is a red flag. I'm sure the customers didn't know, but overtime that thing shreds like old cardboard under impacts or pressures.
"You can never spend enough on any life support system for a hostile environment." - funny you say that, because Oceangate CEO was saying exact opposite.
He said something along the lines "after a certain point any money spent on safety is wasted"
@@Shajirr_Darwinism, the definition
@@Shajirr_ yeah mate..how do you even get your head around the CEO's attitude? It's almost like he had a death wish. I can't help but wonder if he had secret mental health issues. Anyway if they died before implosion they would've slipped into unconsciousness and died peacefully. Implosion is so instantaneous to even realise what's happened🤔
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@@neville4451 Nah, he was just one of those "you can't tell me what to do" people.
Those who think the government should not interfere with what private companies are doing and preferably not tax them, stuff like that. He was just living his dream, making stuff as cheaply as possible with as little regards to safety as possible.
The data that’s available shows that this type of sub is only strongest on its 1st dive, and decreases in hull integrity every dive after. In other words this sub should have had a overhaul after each dive to maintain integrity. The fact this company either knew this or ignored it all together show’s negligence. Simple concept the owner was arrogant and greedy, cost the lives of 4 people plus himself.
would make the company not profitable to rebuilt it everytime after one dive, but it totally makes sense but it doesnt make dollars.
Apparently Rush knew this and ordered no checks, no maintenance because he didn't want a paper trail. He knew any reports would get back to authorities and they might force him to make repairs or stop diving.
In an another article, I learned this was the Titan's 14th dive. More negligence if that's possible in this case.
@@savemykind5877 And the company is closed permanently. 200k a person per trip and couldn’t afford to do what’s required to maintain a sub. There’s so much shady crap that went on it’s sickening.
what makes it worse is, They had the money to do it!
Controlling a periscope or an unmanned vehicle with a commercial game controller makes sense. But to make a wireless commercial game controller your main input source on a vehicle you're inside of is crazy.
I missed the part where the US Navy revealed the terrifying truth Does anyone know what it was .....?
The Ocean gate company should have to pay for the recovery. Millions of dollars paid by we the people, yet "we" would never be able to take a trip like that. Need regulation obviously.
@@blantech8978 bro the Perdue that makes opioids is not the same Perdue that makes chickens lmao. Next you’re gonna say they all went to Perdue university 😂
@@blantech8978 Perdu means lost in French.
@@blantech8978Entirely different companies
Ummm from who ?
Totally agree!
Stockton Rush was the maverick behind this disaster, cavalier about safety. 4 other people died because of it. Some justice that he was the 5th. 3 other were sophisticated people who didn't do their due diligence, and research this company and this submersible. The signs that this was a troubled company along with its leader were there. One of them taking his son into eternity with him. Serious failures and questionable judgment all the way around.
I am most baffled by Paul-Henri Nargeolet's "okayness" with the Titan. It just seems like he would have been more leery. This was his second (?) trip down in that thing..or at least his second trip down with Rush.
But they knew there was a chance of death hence why they weren’t called passengers they were called crew and had jobs to do
No justice as Stockton Rush cannot, now, be put on trial and, ultimately, held accountable.
@@katembenderme too.. even in his Wikipedia page it speaks of a quote he made about deep water
@@derekday4832 The owners of the Titanic were never held responsible. Why not? They invoked a maritime law from the late 1800s that prevents such financial losses in International waters. That maritime law still exists and can and probably will be invoked by OceanGate.
i remember hearing at the time that the Navy did say they heard "something that could of been an implosion" to stop the search because the navy thinks they heard an implosion would of been a mistake
Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but given all the concerns expressed by so many well-qualified people, to have risked lives and launched this submersible was insanely irresponsible. I suspect they all had to sign waivers releasing OceanGate from liability, but Stockton Rush's estate, and/or OceanGate should be held responsible for these deaths.
21 minutes of bombastic retelling of what we already knew before getting to 'What the US Navy knew', which amounted to 5 more minutes of telling us nothing in particular.
After doing the research into the Titan, it was not a question of IF but when it was going to fail. I am a big Titanic fan but there was no way in hell I would have gone in that submersible.
I wouldnt go there in James Cameron's rig. In retrospect it looks just more and more insane. What a waste.
you can do it already - I have a few times ...in VR ..its as close to the REAL thing as you can get - you even have your own sub..comes with claustrophobia..and the feeling of DRED the weight of 2 miles of ocean above you- gives ...........for me - I have to be in the right headspace to even play it
exactly, it was a ticking Time-Bomb. waiting to go off, thats the best way of putting it.
the Titatnic Wreckage is a Grave sight, where 1,500 people purished some 100+ years ago. Respect it, and let it be.
Grave Site*
As a person who was trained in commercial diving I can't understand why ppl think carbon fiber is some kind of indestructible material- it is very strong in comparison to it's weight and density but it's basically just souped up fiberglass.
just like the space shuttle challenger fired the guys that said it will fail ! complete negligence!!
Russian submarines made with titanium suffered brittle fracture failure in the hull systems due to titanium's inherent strong lattice structure that tends to breakdown after repeated expansion and contraction, like that of a submarine diving and surfacing during normal operations. This was known in the early 1990's. Carbon fiber is substantially stronger laterally and therefore far more inflexible. It is the worst material you could ever use in the deep ocean and probably in the for any ship's hull period. It is meant for static pressure not dynamic.
I don't think carbon fibre is "meant" for pressure at all. It is very strong in tension but has no compressive strength at all. Because of its high tensile strength and low elasticity it tends to fail when subjected to side impact loads in a composite. There is no way I would use it in the shell of a vessel subjected to high external pressure. One might as well use sheep's wool fibres to hold the epoxy resin in place while it sets, literally.
@@johnswimcatso the resin the CF was suspended in while ship was whole cracked and the CF folded up like it was a tee in a vacuum storage bag
It's amazing that anyone could think material that was not good enough to be used on planes anymore was good enough for a water vehicle that would go through even harsher conditions. None of this sounds right yet it happened.
...and no receipt or record of the sale or transaction... something's fishy.
Yes, I agree.
considering carbon fiber in an aircraft had to withstand about 14.5 lbs per square foot to hold air IN and was rejected and then used in a vessel "built" to withstand a pressure of roughly 6000 lbs per SQUARE INCH TO HOLD WATER OUT is tantamount to murder it is no wonder the company brass acted the way they did.
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Seems to me they would have had a cable hooked to the sub.They would have had a way to talk to the boat by a cable running along the main cable.
You need a good heavey cross stitch carbon fiber cloth, then a finner cross stitch in a different direction. You also need a very strong resin and bake it in an oven and let it cure for 60 days . You need stronger glass windows, a bigger air supply , a better radio ,and have the sub about 30 feet long and about 7.5 inches thick walls. Test it on a cable system for 8 hours with no people on board then do a XRay of the sub to see if any fibers let go.. and all the detentions are all the same.
even then afaik the hull will only last for 1 ? dive, as the carbon fibre can take huge compression force, but the decompression force damages the microscopic carbon fibre structure. Basically it's not suitable for taking force from multiple directions/angles.
Unverified transcripts of text communication between topside and Titan indicate the rate of descent even early on was too rapid. That high descent rate may have been an indication that Titan was becoming water logged. The Titan crew may well have been doomed by the time they were about 30 minutes into their journey.
Water logged, or water in the back fin. If that transcript is real, it also indicates that it was tail heavy and so did not rise when ballast was dropped.
@@joanberkwitz2662 Thanks for the additional information.
The back fin was outside the pressure hull, so it must have been designed to fill with water. I saw a video of the Titan with its tail section opened up like a vintage car hood (hinged down the middle), to expose what looked like electrical and electronic components. Perhaps the sea water planned to be in the tail shorted out the battery that was mentioned as failing in the leaked text transcript. That could explain why the sub rose less than 100 feet after the ballast and landing legs were jettisoned (the two bulges on the back of the pressure hull contained vertical thrusters powered by two batteries).
Unfortunately it was doomed as soon as it was built, it was done that badly
@@charlesyoung7436 Why would they design it to fill with water? Wouldn't that be unecessary weight and dangerous because of what was under it??
I like how you compare that 'star ship' to OceanGate--lots of similarity there! But you're wrong to call the group 'explorers'. They were expensive tourists in the hands of a sociopath and visiting a gravesite. The boy along for the ride expressed trepidation about the whole thing.
@@stacer1962 What?
Wait ah minute sociopath, I heard that Mr Rush of Ocean Gate his wife was a descendant of a person that died on the titanic. I felt spooked out when I heard that! Let me check again! Rip to those people.
@@Moouse44 Sociopath--what? Also, how can a man and his wife be descended from one person?
Think he means. Stockton Bush's WIFE is a descendant.
Actually, it was the boy's mother who was supposed to go with her husband, but gave her seat to her son b/c he wanted to go so badly. The story that the boy didn't want to go is just plain erroneous.
I worked in the oilfields most my life.
Safety is a must you just can not ignore the issue.
I've seen bad things happen on drilling rigs.
It sounds like ocean gate ignore Safety for profit. 😢
Makes me very sad that this happened.
Anymore information regarding relating decent rate..being way to fast and ascending rate critically slower any possibilities? was water intrusion a possibility from the start? Why wasn’t decent rate a concern with Rush or the crew topside?
The first photo of Titan that I saw, after it had gone silent, my first, gut reaction, was "No way would I get near that, it just looks unsailable, in any way."
It factually frightened me.
I was the same. After seeing my first photos of Titan I called it a Heath Robinson submersible. I worked with diving bells and ROVs for thirty years.
Claustrophobia prohibits me from even getting into a vehicle like that, much less getting bolted in from the outside or dropping down into the ocean for a couple miles into the complete darkness. Trapped.
And then there was the creaking......
No. Just no.
@@mcsmith732I get that. Fear of being locked in, trapped, would have prevented me from getting inside. The fact that they’re bolted in with no way to escape is enough for me.
I actually thought I had deja vu the first time I saw it. I’m big into Titanic and around 2 years ago got really into another Titanic binge. Amidst the videos I came across, I found out a company was offering sub dives down to the Titanic. I remember watching a video with some sub somewhere on UA-cam where you have to get bolted inside it and the interior is a bleak mat with little in the way of physical control. It was a manufacturing process video I think. I remember thinking it looked a little out of spec compared to others I had seen before. I remember thinking that looks incredibly bush league.
When I saw this story I was like “holy shit something about this seems familiar but I’ve never heard of Titan.” Well it was familiar. It used to be called Cyclops II and I specifically remember that name. Crazy when something comes full circle. Very rarely does something you think is a death trap ever get confirmed to be a death trap
Oceangate needs to pay for all the search and rescue. I can't believe they waited 8 hours before contacting anyone.
With what money lol. they already done they gonna be bankrupt by end of the year. They just get the bill clsoe up shop already doing that anyways and you can't bleed a stone you won't get back 1/10 of that money from their company assets, and man with any personal liabilty died in the damn thing. Plus I am sure they got loans out who will want to help gut and auction off whats left they have to fight for.
You can send them the bill but don't mean it will ever be paid sigh.
They’ve stopped all operations. At best, the government might be able to squeeze some money out of selling the support vessel beyond what’s still owed on it. That would get all muddled with the wrongful death lawsuits that are sure to come anyway.
I don’t think airlines are charged for S&R costs of downed aircraft either.
@@blantech8978 What ever is left will be recovered. Uncle Sam don't mess around. If it there they'll find it recover it and auction it to the highest bidder right down to the last nickel.
It’s consistent with their stellar ethical and safe practices.
@@Ryarios the support vessel, I assume you mean the Mother Ship, was leased for the short period of time when dives were feasible.
I’m amazed that the passengers went for it. All of them were intelligent folk.
The attachment of the different materials may be one thing. But I believe the main issue was the pressures that are at those depths require a sphere for the crew to be in, not a cigar shaped craft. Spheres have proven to be the most strong at depths (windowed portholes to see out, become the weak points). H-D Cameras would be the best option with no portholes. Is there no F.A.A. like program for vessels that travel on and under water? How did they get insured without being tested and Certified by an outside company?
It probably was safer than crossing the street, if the street was made of lit dynamite with a forecast of raining hand grenades.
Hah!!! My favorite comment so far!!!
😂 I needed a laugh. I have my drink all over me.
This is such a sad, unnecessary and expensive waste of time and especially human life.
At 78 I would attempt Everest before going in a sub like that one.
I do not expect the Navy to tell us that they heard a sound. 🇺🇸
US Navy heard a noise consistent with the noise of an implosion. But the Navy could not state that the implosion sound was from the titan. That had to be verified. It could be possible that the sound came from some other source. Therefore, the search and rescue efforts continued until 1. The oxygen supply went well past the 96 hour mark with no possibility the titan passengers would still be alive or 2. The implosion sound has been verified to be the titan imploding. If the search and rescue were called off on the base of just an implosion sound, and that was not the titan, then it would have been possible that the titan surfaced but the passengers suffocated anyways because the search had been called off. The navy doesn’t guess.
They're lying to us. You can't tell me they heard this sound but couldn't tell where it was coming from. What good would any listening device be if it couldn't detect where the sound came from? You can continue the search just to "cover all the bases" without telling a preposterous lie.
@@Unknown17 they heard the sound consistent with the noise of an implosion. But they can’t say yep the titan imploded because they don’t know for sure. The navy may not have been aware that there were dives on the titanic that day. So, until the titan is confirmed imploded, the search would, and should, continue.
They may never really know the fail point in this craft….the well under rated view port, that bowed inward under the pressure up to an inch, and had cracks appearing on its edges, the supposed out of spec/life cycle carbon fibre material, the lack of systems redundancy, the inability for fail safe recovery and communication….all played a factor in its outcome…we as humans experience the results of short cutting on a daily basis….and yet it seems acceptable until it doesn’t.
What is that that dipped under the water at 11:27? Is that a dolphin or the sub?
How ridiculous it must have been for those professional to be looking for something on the top of the ocean when it was at the bottom.
Having spent 5 years in the Coast Guard, there's nothing more frustrating than it be sent on a wild "sub" chase.
That rescue operation was nothing but theater.
a very expensive theater
But real life training also
@@markmilan8365 Like shooting missiles at a balloon.
Looks like the biden administration ordered that they didn't say anything for days because The media had bad stories on the administration.
@@tubee2b Now we know why China delayed our shipment of giant jet-mounted needles...
I believe it to be an error to say the submersible was lowered into water once on site. It was towed on frame to save money unlike previous trips. Likely jarring the unit for hundreds of miles and possibly weakening it.
Film I saw showed it on a raft, that sank and tipped it in.
Any jostling it experienced while being towed is nothing in comparison to the pressures it experienced at depth.
@@StephenShawCanada certainly. Compression wear and tear might be the mode of failure but vibrating will weaken just about anything over time.
@lawdawgfair9611 yup. The vibration alone can and most certainly cause some problems.
Good observation. Did not help !
The first thing that gets me thinking is the, Materials etc used to build ocean craft, to which Bowing said they have no records of any such sale, and did ocean craft, get certified by a higher authority for the ocean craft ,for the use it was going to undertake.
I AM ALL IN FAVOUR OF EXPLORATION AND EXPLORATION IS A GOOD THING BUT LET'S DO IT SAFELY ! ! !👍
Having had the unpleasant task (being a Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer) of interacting with family of deceased individuals) the balance between communicating reality with expressing compassion is not an easy task. It was known earlier that it was likely hopeless, but to suddenly extinguish the loved one's hope would have been a cruelty. They needed a little time to process the probability.
I WOULD HAVE TOLD LOVED ONES THE TITAN WENT “ POP GOES THE WEASEL “
@@xavierminchello8431 Immature comment. You must be very young and haven`t experienced death yet.
@@xavierminchello8431People like you need the tree giving you air to be chopped down.
I think it is more cruel to drag out the possibilities than to define what actually happened. At least family members would have been spared the agony of imagining what their loved ones may have been experiencing down there. The drama was excruciating!
Now that makes sense!
Actually, it was disclosed the sound detected by the NAVY was passed on to the unified commander of the search and rescue. It was the commander who chose to continue with the search (i.e., to err on the side of caution) until there was proof the sub had imploded.
That's been bugging me. I read that it was disclosed. It makes sense to me that you'd keep searching until you had confirmation. If they did it early enough, it would make sense that they could have stopped talking about it before it became a media frenzy and just slipped through the cracks.
Though there's this other narrative that it was kept secret for some reason. As far as I can tell, that was started by some nutball who read a headline and decided that Biden was trying to redirect media attention from something else by timing the announcement. Now so many people are repeating that they didn't tell anyone.
Plus the Coast Guard has a massive annual budget, but they have to use all of it so they can get more next year. They definitely wouldn't pass up a chance to spend taxpayers money.
@@djuarakurniawan4738 True.
... because the sound detected by Navy system was not specific as to cause or location.
@@strayedarticle2838 The CG has a very small budget, and not adequate for the thousands of miles of coast and sea that they have to provide services for. one of the worst budgets in the military branches.
I think a lot of people are just misinformed when it comes to making a point about the submarine having been operated by a repurposed console controller. Those controllers are reliable and created for precision and comfort. That, as elaborated on in this video, is absolutely not the reason why this accident occurred. Instead, it was the CEO's negligence.
The US Navy was like the only sighted person in a room full of blind people during an Easter Egg Hunt, and their excuse for not telling them where to go was, "Because maybe they were going to find it by themselves and be happier for doing so."
As a Naval Engineer on Columbia and Virginia Class subs, these subs made out of steal can only go 1600 feet. Ocean Gate had no business sending that joke of a vessel to the depth
One aspect of this that seems to have captured less attention is the fact that those on board Titan had no way of getting out of the craft from the inside. So even if it had miraculously floated back to the surface somewhere, they would have been totally reliant on rescuers finding it and undoing the external bolts to open the nose and release them before oxygen supplies ran out. Perishing that way would arguably have been even more horrific.
One of the bolts wasn't even secured properly, in a previous trip, it has been revealed.
And there wasn’t even a beacon to help locate them in this event!
Imagine a fire breaking out on that thing...
Big deal. People on an airplane have no way to escape either if something happens in-flight.
Do you think they would tell us even now if more horrific events did in fact happen? I don't. I think the whole truth isn't really out there. Probably won't be.
They won’t do that again. It makes sense the navy doesn’t want to expose their Tech. The delay in informing the search about the sound was smart. Not only would it have stopped the recovery, it gave everyone the time to come to the realization the passengers were gone. It was probably easier than the sudden shock of a video or sound track.
Something tells me that the company waited so long too report the accident because they knew that they would be up shits creek because the titan was never certified so they were probably trying too find it them selves until they gave up hope. What were they gonna tell the families right then and there ?
1. The 3 passengers go onboard the Titan coffin by believing the words of Stockton Rush.
2. The passengers go onboard thinking that we are safe having Paul Henry with us. Paul has been there many times to see the Titanic.
Me, I don't give a flying A if I'm with Captain America just to see the Titan alone I won't even go in there.
Everything I've seen and heard Oceangate was incredibly I believe Oceangate was incredibly negligent. They took too many risks with other people's lives. They ignored expert they threw safety concerns out the window.. they used to material that strength is better when it expanded than crushed. They also neglected to make safety checks of the material on a regular basis and reuse the craft more times than it probably should have been used. There were no tests conducted on the material to find out what it's flexible tolerances were and how many times it could be used before needing to be retired and replaced
If ive money i would have created a 3d vr room which will show broadcast of real time titanic reckage by connecting a submarine camera, its better than sending real humans and rich people can easily afford considering they wanted to see the wreckage
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Old carbon fiber weakens over time. When it breaks it feels like hard cardboard. Wouldn't have trusted it under pressure, certainly not for deep diving!
Apparently the CEO also bought expired carbon fiber, and bragged about how he managed to bring down the sub cost by buying it for cheap so...
@@loneevangelion5815yea. That would be a better option tbh. Like a real time exploration connected to VR. Like having the diving drones equipped with the camera connected to VR is a way better solution
Wrong. The Navy may use game controllers for periscope servo motor, never for directional control of a vessel.
Many corners were cut by the nutcase Rush.
What's so ironic was that the submersible's remains came to rest close to the Titanic.
I saw a comment on another video somewhere that really summed up Stockton Rush. Though he was wealthy by layman standards, he really wasn’t wealthy enough to really pursue this type of endeavor. Hence, that’s part of the reason he was constantly cutting corners and doing everything on the cheap. He could not afford to really be in this field.
According to the interwebs , his net worth was only 12 million, so yes , he really was engaging in a pursuit out of his price point.
Mr. Rush had some...unorthodox ideas about how to build and run submarines. He used the wrong materials to build it, he used a wireless controller to operate the entire submarine, and he didn't want experience sub operators (he felt they were too old and he preferred "inspirational" young people). I think Mr. Rush has proved why the orthodox ways are sometimes best. Safety is not an area to skimp on. The trouble with making history is that it can lead to becoming history.
Humanity's record as it concerns 'test pilots' is dismal- this fact should have proved prohibitive. The outcome was poetically just, especially considering the motivational folly of visiting a mass grave 'for fun'.
Stockton Rush must have been a Niagara Falls barrel maker in a previous life.
Dig deep enough and I bet those barrels failed too.
he spared every expense
He was a woke activist that wanted to diversity hire
People are always screeching, "Think outside the box! Think outside the box!" Well, boxes exist for a reason. Those "boxes" contain tradition, social norms, experience and safety.
What a way to go. Hearing the cracking in the rear...jeez.
I always find it interesting that the implosion was heard several hours after it lost contact. That means the crew and passengers were alive for a few hours as the submersible sunk and likely settled on the sea floor. It was not we have a problem, then it was over. They had several hours to agonize over their fate.
Was the carbon fibre past its use by date or best before date? In some ways it was truly amazing that this concoction of glue and fine carbon thread lasted the number of dives it did.
You can tell by the smell if the carbon fiber is past it's pull date. Mr Rush should have known that.
Boeing has denied supplying any carbon fibre to either OceanGate or Stockton Rush.
Carbon fiber bicycle frames crack & break, steel, titanium, not so much.
I saw a piece that said the carbon fibre used was bought from an aircraft company that rejected it for airplane construction. Bought at a reduced cost.
What did oceangate expect? They built a lego submersible experimental craft which survived a few launches which they got away with until their luck ran out. Its last 5 passengers got what they wanted... a close look at Titanic but unfortunately it was forever. Unforgivable they took a young man to his death.
Did they get to the Titanic?
@@sidstovell2177 No, they were about 400m from the bottom when they lost communication. The debris field was found about 1600 feet from the bow of the Titanic.
People are looking in the wrong direction. What happened to the Titan was water leaked into the bus. When that happened, they were left with no power and the Titian went on a vertical nose dive. The five people were aware of the situation in the bus bay. Both A-B Bus compromised. That were the sounds they heard when Titian was talking to mother ship.
Aircraft fuselages are internally pressurized putting the composite structure in tensile stress due to pressure loading. The fibers are wound in a crisscross pattern..In the case of the Titan, from what has been discussed, the fibers were wound primarily in a circumferential direction seemingly putting the fibers in a compressive loading due to pressure differential..a completely different application from that of an aircraft fuselage.
Ocean Gate should have listened to the experts who told them their designs and materials (carbon fiber) were dangerous. If they had made Titan from titanium these five people may be alive today. I salute the Coast Guard and Navy for the professional way they conducted the search.
The dumbest thing about it all is it would have actually been cheaper and way easier to build it the right way (by casting a few-inch-thick stainless steel tank). Casting and machining those titanium end caps & rings would have been a nightmare. Titanium is about the most difficult metal to cast and machine besides tungsten. Insanely high melting point and a horrible conductor of heat so it burns up all the machining tools. I personally think it was just a stupid marketing ploy to claim it as a fancy futuristic submersible when in reality the traditional materials were better
@@Yaahzy1 How was that relevant to Daryl's post?
@@Yaahzy1 three thousand degrees compared to the 2200-2500 of steel is a huge difference. And it’s a lot more expensive. But the main thing is machining it compared to steel. It’s extremely hard to machine because it’s a poor conductor of heat. So instead of pulling the intense heat of machining away from the cutting tools like most metals, the heat all stays trapped in the tools and burns them up extremely fast. The only metal that’s more difficult to machine than titanium is tungsten (which you can basically forget about machining altogether cause tungsten is what usually does the machining haha) All in all the main thing I’m pointing out is, in a case of extreme irony, building the sub right would have been cheaper and a lot easier
A rich man's hubris cost lives. A terrible lack of humility causes lifelong pain for so many.😔
"OceanGate" sounds like the original Watergate and not a company I would choose with a dangerous Ocean activity.
How did they attach the lift cables to the wreckage at the depth it was found??