This was before my time so I had never heard this story--What a great job reporting this. I have no idea how you found this in the archives of the NFL but that's why this channel is so amazing. You find and report on the stories we never heard of or get the intricate details behind the ones we have. Great video today with really interesting coverage. Great job!
The NFL when the top players made $40,000 a year, fields were brown by the fourth quarter, and TV ads during league championship games were just ads, not “awaited events.”
This wasn't even the most bizarre playoff scenario that happened that season. Over in the Eastern Conference, the 7-3-3 Steelers played the 10-3 Giants, but because ties didn't count in the standings prior to 1972, it meant that if the Steelers beat the Giants, they'd win the Eastern Conference at 8-3-3 to appear in their first championship game. The Steelers wound up losing the game 33-17 and finished the season 7-4-3.
@@BillMorganChannel Vladus is correct. The Giants would have finished in a second place tie with the Browns at 10-4. Times did not count in the standings at all. Stupid? Yes but the pro football wouldn’t catch on until 1972.
@@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture wow!!!!! Great fact. When I used to play chess, a tie was worth half a point, but the nfl I guess said “eh” nut tin’ happened.
51-31-6 🐻 ( 10-3 Chicago ) 52-31-6 🐻( 26-7 Chicago ) I think Halas just told his Son to respect Lombardi, Halas was only other coach Lombardi called “Coach” mutual respect between Halas and Lombardi
The other thing about that game between SF and GB was that the HOF right guard for the Packers, Jerry Kramer, was playing with a couple of slivers of wood in his heart, from a childhood accident.
What's that? AH...PLAYOFFS? DON'T TALK ABOUT PLAYOFFS! YOU KIDDING ME? PLAYOFFS? I JUST HOPE WE CAN WIN A GAME, ANOTHER GAME! (my friend and I have quoted this ad nauseum over the years, never gets old, his diddly poo offensively spiel doesn't either, which we've also quoted lol)
Oh those 63 Giants....the last good team they had till the Parcells era. We are going through a similar period of ineptitude, hopefully not lasting as long.
Actually, they did make the playoffs in 1981 with Ray Perkins as HC (Parcells was an assistant on that staff) before Perkins left to succeed Bear Bryant at Alabama after the 1982 season (Bryant was retiring but he died less than a month after coaching his last game in the 1982 Liberty Bowl).
@@WaltGekko Went to a s b with fassel and kerry collins as qb too. One of the many bear disciple coaches like stallings and curry who couldn't duplicate his success.
OBJ9 didn't mention 1950 for some reason, when both divisions had teams tied for first and in both instances the team that had gotten swept during the regular season won the playoff game.
Frank Gifford, Ronnie Bull, Willie Gallimore, Mike Ditka, Alex Webster, Del Shofner, were some of the players in that 1963 Championship Game played in 4 degree weather (-11 wind chill) at Wrigley Field.
... & Ed O'Bradovich, who made the games biggest play ... intercepted Tiitle's screen pass (intended for Joe Morrison) late in the 4th quarter when the Giants held a 10-7 lead ... Richie Petibone's subsequent interception clinched it ... watched that game on TV @ age 9 on a B&W TV....
I think we massively underrate the quality of sports back in the 60s. You see "oh they were all milkmen" and shit all the time but they were still some of the best in the country at their sport. Also, I feel like because the game was younger and people were still figuring out strategies that it would have led to a lot of creativity from coaches trying to see what does and doesn't work and what they can get away with. You also saw a lot more laterals back then because the game still wasn't that far removed from its rugby origins
... Callum Lambkin ... you make a very interesting point ... men like Allen, Halas, Shaughnessy & Paul Brown saw the sport as a near-blank canvas & they painted their innovations on it .... creating the game we have now....
4:19 And also 1950, which became the only year both conferences had two teams tied at the top. The Los Angeles Rams and The Chicago Bears were even in the Western, while the Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants were also even in the Eastern. As a result, 17 years before it's time, there were 2 playoff games preceding the NFL Championship.
IKR? I'm always shocked at how '90s video is often as grainy and muddy as video from the late '60s/early '70s if not worse. I swear it wasn't that bad at the time.
Great story. The 1963 Bears were one of the great defenses in history. Keep in mind this is two years before Butkus is drafted. George Allen had by then established himself as one of the great assistant coaches, the man probably most responsible for leading the Bears back to the championship circle after years of second place finishes. Halas was supposed to give George Allen the HC job but he reneged and ended up being hired by the Rams. How Bears history in the 60s and 70s been different had Allen become Bears HC. Ironically in 1982, it was between Allen and Ditka for the Bears HC job. Halas wouldn’t forgive Allen for bailing ship in 1966
in 1963, the Bears had the stingiest defense in pro football; while the San Diego Chargers had the most potent offense. Sid Gillman challenged Halas to a championship game, which of course, was refused. Gillman had the Chargers' rings engraved with "World Champion."
Kinda like in the late '70's when the wha avco cup champ jets challenged the nhl champ habs to a series. To which habs chickened out of it with a 'no thanks' to that idea.
The Bears totally would've crushed the Chargers, so Gillman got lucky. Hell, the Bills held them to 7 and 0 points in the next two AFC title games, which is about how a Bears-Chargers matchup that postseason would've gone.
I think the Bears very PROBABLY would have crushed the Chargers, but since we'll never know, I think the AFL teams that won championships before 1966 are entitled to count those wins as world titles. The NFL probably would not let fans of the Chargers or Bills put an extra diamond on their rings if they were to win a Super Bowl and it would only confuse their fans.
From '60-66 the 49ers always gave the Packers trouble at home, going 3-3-1 against them in that span. They were 0-7 on the road against the Packers during those same seasons.
There should be a couple of videos involving the 2006 playoff picture where 6 teams had a chance of two wild card spots and how crazy it played out, along with the 2022 near tie between the Chargers and Raiders that would have kicked Pittsburgh out of the playoffs.
The Bears rushed through the guard holes made by the Packer sweep. The first clip shows that. Damn, that would have been a great playoff: 1). Can the monsters of the midway go 3 and 0 against the two time defending champions ? 2). Can Green Bay finally beat Chicago this year, (1963) and defend their championship against Y.A. Title and the New York Giants for a third straight time ? 3).The TV pop. would be insane, @ least half the country would have watched . 4). Especially as a respite against the recent assacination.
Steelers and Ravens fans are looking at Jacksonville while watching this video lol Btw another Pre Super Bowl playoff game was '47 Steelers vs Eagles. The only Playoff Game in Steelers History until the Immaculate Reception. Eagles dominated Steelers 21-0
Hornung is actually one of the most overrated Hall Of Famers. Yes, he set the record for most points in a season, but only because he kicked FGs. He had all of two great seasons in '60 and '61 but otherwise never scored more than 8 TDs in a season. He scored 107 points in '64 with just five TDs because he kicked 41 extra points, and the Packers scored 38 TDs besides his. That season he cost them the playoffs by missing an incredible 26 FGs (and two extra points). This follows the pattern of Hornung somehow winning a Heisman for a Notre Dame team with a losing record. He led a charmed life for sure.
@@DolFan316 Great points, but it is the Hall of FAME not hall of greatness, and 90% of Americans toady recognize the famous name of Paul Hornung, but on 13% recognize the name of Del Shofner and only 7% know of Howard Mudd.
@@BillMorganChannel I just read your post (don’t ask why I was reading posts now) and it’s nice to see someone besides me automatically recognize those names. Shofner was a great receiver with the Rams and the Giants and Mudd was one of the best offensive lineman ever and one of the best offensive line coaches ever. I wish someone would do a story about Tobin Rote, the greatest QB people don’t know about and perhaps the most underrated of all time. While not perhaps HOF worthy, he came close. When he retired, he was the career leader in rushing yards for a QB and was only the second QB to start for two different teams to win a league championship (1957 Lions and 1963 Chargers). The other three to do so are or will be in the HOF (Norm Van Brocklin, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady). Rote is also the only WB, to my knowledge, to start for three different teams in three different leagues to make the playoffs (Lions-NFL, Argonauts-CFL, Chargers-AFL). He also helped engineer the Lions comeback from a 27-7 3rd quarter deficit against the Lions in the 1957 Western Conference tie-breaker playoff game, leading them to a 31-27 win. It was the at the time and would remain so for a number of years the largest deficit for a come from behind playoff win. His performance in the 1957 NFL And 1963 Championship games were pure gold (his 1963 performance would be greatly overshadowed by Keith “Hot Rod” Lincoln’s performance and that game would make a great video as to how it definitively put the AFL on the map as a serious league worthy of respect). Also, Rote’s career stats do compare to Bobby Layne’s career stats and he is in the HOF.
@@BillMorganChannel Howard Mudd should be somewhat recognized due to being quite possibly the best OLine coach in NFL History. But OLineman don't have fantasy stats so...
@@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture I 1 million percent love your passion and hope to converse more. It is nice to reflect ont he greatness of Howard Mudd! I must disagree on your proposition that Tobin Rote is borderline HOFer and equal to Bobby Lanye. Tobin Rote record as a starter: 48-64-4 2 Pro Bowls; Bobby Layne as a starter: 80-48-4 6 Pro Bowls. I am originally from Buffalo, on UA-cam is the complete 1964 Bills Chargers championship game. Did you know Sid Gillman shocked the world by benching the regular starter John Hadl for Tobin Rote and TR was not very effective. TRIVIA TIME! Who was the only player to make the HOF who played only in the AFL?
The Jets/Patriots divisional round game was actually kind of similar. Certain commentators were already talking about the Pats in the championship game and no one picked the Jets or even considered them winning
I never heard about this before today. I knew of the Bears Monsters of the Midway defense and that the NFL played a full schedule of games 2 days after JFK was assassinated.
Giants were in the championship game in 61, 62 and 63. 61, 62 losses to GB and 63 loss to the bears. Funny side note. In 59, McCann was with GB and Lombardi alternated him and Starr until he knew which could win. Once Starr emerged, McCann was traded
Another strange playoff scenario was the 1967 Colts, lost only one game, and did not make the playoffs. Also, that same year, the Rams had the best record in football, and had to play the Packers in Milwaukee for the divisional playoff game.
Both the Bears and the Giants descended to last place (or next to last place) the following season. For the duration of the sixties and seventies, they were perennial losers, mired in mediocrity. That ‘63 championship was the last hurrah for both those proud franchises for a loooong time.
Both had some good battles in the '80's between ditka and parcells when they plus niners and skins ruled the nfc. They combined to win 8 straight and 10 out of 11 sb's between '82 and '92.
I think the most important thing is that the Bears did control their own destiny so either they're focusing on their game and GB wins, or they're focusing on their game and they advance before. It was definitely a weird way to go about it but it's not ridiculous
This is precisely what makes the NFL better than college football. In NFL you earn a playoff spot on the field. In college football you earn a playoff spot by a bunch of millionaires choosing teams by sitting around the table in a smoke filled room. This is why college football needs a 12 to 16 team playoff. Take the human element out of it.
Looking forward to your analysis & footage (you can find) of THE GREATEST PLAYOFF ROBBERY IN NFL HISTORY - December 18, 1976 at Oakland. Madden/Raiders are nothing more than Coryell/Chargers etc. but for the tsunami of officiating gifts handed to the home team, particularly in the final minutes.
I guess I'm wondering why this was a funny playoff scenario. Just because Halas said the 49ers couldn't win? I mean yeah, that's a bit unusual, but stranger playoff scenarios have happened. In this, everything that was supposed to happen did happen. Really nothing unusual about the events. People seem to be stuck on what Halas said. If anything, he said that so that his own players would stay focused on their game rather than hoping for the outcome of the Packers game. There's nothing wrong with that.
Yes that’s exactly why. When a joke gets made usually it falls into either funny or unfunny. This one was funny hence the title… honestly didn’t think I’d be explaining jokes to a mentally handicapped child on UA-cam today but the world is full of surprises I guess
@@richardtherichard26 Halas said the 49ers would not beat the Packers. The 49ers did not beat the Packers. OMG I'm ROTFLMAO!!!!! See...that doesn't work.
Great story thanks. I don't like the Bears or Packers but the NFL as a whole is more fun when they're good (both of them Chicago). The league is just more fun when someone has to pay them at home in the winter to get anywhere.
You can exhale now. 😁 (BTW, the Colts-Jags game shouldn't have been as big a surprise as it was... the Jags gave the Colts a tough game earlier in the season.)
So I watched this the day it came out and was loved it, but what stayed w me is when you said imagine a team saying they don't have a chance, lmao the whole NFL said we're gonna change that raiders chargers game to Sunday to make it more entertaining because there's no way the colts can lose to the jags...lol look what happened
@@CTubeMan Lombardi dissed the afl as 'inferior' at every chance he had. And told fellow nfl coaches/old guard that he wanted to beat afl bad in sb's i and ii to prove nfl superiority.
Oh, no, not even close. Worse pass was by Garo Yepremian in the 1972 Super Bowl. Look up the video of it if you haven't seen it before, it's hilarious, although the Dolphins didn't think it was funny at the time since it almost blew up their undefeated season. But maybe that pass doesn't count since he was a kicker and not a QB?
... you actually think that was a big deal? ... check out the comment of Wahington owner George Preston Marshall ... after his team beat Chicao 7-3 (note those numbers) in a 1940 regular season match, Marshall told reporters that Halas' Bears fold when the going gets tough ... now check out the final score of the 1940 NFL Championship game ... Chicago 73 - Wash. 0 ... ps ... did I hear you mention a Bears receiver "Tommy Morris" ... its JOHNNY Morris....
I'm pretty sure the Bears would have won that game anyway, but it became a huge rout because of GPM's mouth. You don't score 73 points unless you're trying to score on every play long after the game had been decided, and the Bears did that to humiliate Marshall. Washington would get their revenge two years later, which would be their last championship in 40 years until the Joe Gibbs era.
1963 is mostly remembered for Pete rozelleaking the idiotic decision to play on the weekend of jfks assassination, despite it one,) being in bad taste and two) there would be no tv coverage cause every station was covering the assassination afternarh
Interestingly enough, this week the steelers need the Jaguars to beat the Colts to get into the playoffs. Which would also knock off the Colts. Will the steelers be watching? Probably not.
Should have been a playoff. How does a team with a 11-2-1 record not even get a chance @ the title ? Even in little league baseball the top two teams play for the title.
That's how it was done then. Even when the NFL expanded to 16 teams and went with four divisions from 1967-'69 it still was only the division winners who advanced to the playoffs. Only after the merger in 1970 did we have wild cards, which came about because you only had three divisions with 13 teams in each conference then. From 1964-'66 the second place teams played in The Playoff Bowl that essentially was a third-place game. The losers in the Divisional round of the playoffs from 1967-'69 played in this game and the loser of it actually had an 0-2 record for that postseason.
... just the notion of splitting the NFL in half, creating a championship game, was radical when George Preston Marshall & Halas proposed it after the 1932 season....
For the same reason if one team won over a hundred games but finished second in the AL or NL would not play in the World Series, and the NFL Championship Game was modeled on the World Series. That's also why home field advantage was alternated. Playoff expansion in both MLB and the NFL/AFL wouldn't really happen until the 60's, and this was only 1963.
It's nice to see someone acknowledge football existed before the Super Bowl.
I live for the "worse than if he did nothing but spike the ball into the ground every single play" that comes in almost every video.
Me, too! Should be noted that saying "spike the ball into the ground" is actually a redundancy.
This was before my time so I had never heard this story--What a great job reporting this. I have no idea how you found this in the archives of the NFL but that's why this channel is so amazing. You find and report on the stories we never heard of or get the intricate details behind the ones we have. Great video today with really interesting coverage. Great job!
U are everywhere lol
@@McConkey_Productions was going to say the same thing lol
The NFL when the top players made $40,000 a year, fields were brown by the fourth quarter, and TV ads during league championship games were just ads, not “awaited events.”
That $40,000 a year is probably equal to around $750,000 a year in 2022.
This wasn't even the most bizarre playoff scenario that happened that season. Over in the Eastern Conference, the 7-3-3 Steelers played the 10-3 Giants, but because ties didn't count in the standings prior to 1972, it meant that if the Steelers beat the Giants, they'd win the Eastern Conference at 8-3-3 to appear in their first championship game. The Steelers wound up losing the game 33-17 and finished the season 7-4-3.
If the Steelers won, how would Pittsburgh with an 8-3-3 record take the conference title when the Giants would have been 10-4?
@@chrism1598 Ties didn't count before 1972, so an 8-3-3 record would've essentially been 8-3, which yields a higher winning percentage than 10-4
@@chrism1598 shhhhhhh......Chris.........Steeler fans are delusional
@@BillMorganChannel Vladus is correct. The Giants would have finished in a second place tie with the Browns at 10-4. Times did not count in the standings at all. Stupid? Yes but the pro football wouldn’t catch on until 1972.
@@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture wow!!!!! Great fact. When I used to play chess, a tie was worth half a point, but the nfl I guess said “eh” nut tin’ happened.
51-31-6 🐻 ( 10-3 Chicago )
52-31-6 🐻( 26-7 Chicago )
I think Halas just told his Son to respect Lombardi, Halas was only other coach Lombardi called “Coach” mutual respect between Halas and Lombardi
Yeah old man Halas was incredibly irritable but he had loads of respect for Lombardi.
"Don't you DARE use that BEAR emoji, Soviet Union man!"--Whoops! I got transported into the wrong century instead of the 1980s.. MY BAD!
Coach:
"Why are you spiking the ball?"
Me:
The other thing about that game between SF and GB was that the HOF right guard for the Packers, Jerry Kramer, was playing with a couple of slivers of wood in his heart, from a childhood accident.
'Playoffs? You talkin' playoffs?'
Funniest playoff scenario in NFL history?
When someone asked Jim Mora what his 2001 Colts chances are of making the playoffs.
What's that? AH...PLAYOFFS? DON'T TALK ABOUT PLAYOFFS! YOU KIDDING ME? PLAYOFFS? I JUST HOPE WE CAN WIN A GAME, ANOTHER GAME! (my friend and I have quoted this ad nauseum over the years, never gets old, his diddly poo offensively spiel doesn't either, which we've also quoted lol)
@@ajk sounds like something Allen Iverson wouldve said. Practice?
And just think, the Bears D was doing this two years BEFORE drafting Duck Butkus, and won a title before Butkus and Gale Sayers came along in '65.
Wrigley Field with the extra small end zones.
Awesome job brother. Never heard of this story. I thought I knew some football history. But brother you are really good.
Oh those 63 Giants....the last good team they had till the Parcells era. We are going through a similar period of ineptitude, hopefully not lasting as long.
coughlin/eli got y'all two s b's.
Actually, they did make the playoffs in 1981 with Ray Perkins as HC (Parcells was an assistant on that staff) before Perkins left to succeed Bear Bryant at Alabama after the 1982 season (Bryant was retiring but he died less than a month after coaching his last game in the 1982 Liberty Bowl).
@@WaltGekko Went to a s b with fassel and kerry collins as qb too. One of the many bear disciple coaches like stallings and curry who couldn't duplicate his success.
OBJ9 didn't mention 1950 for some reason, when both divisions had teams tied for first and in both instances the team that had gotten swept during the regular season won the playoff game.
Frank Gifford, Ronnie Bull, Willie Gallimore, Mike Ditka, Alex Webster, Del Shofner, were some of the players in that 1963 Championship Game played in 4 degree weather (-11 wind chill) at Wrigley Field.
... & Ed O'Bradovich, who made the games biggest play ... intercepted Tiitle's screen pass (intended for Joe Morrison) late in the 4th quarter when the Giants held a 10-7 lead ... Richie Petibone's subsequent interception clinched it ... watched that game on TV @ age 9 on a B&W TV....
The presence of Vince Lombardi will drive anyone nuts.
5:53 Looks like the right guard moves before the snap.
that HB pass play at 4:57 is WAY ahead of its time. Looks like something that was just run this year
I think we massively underrate the quality of sports back in the 60s. You see "oh they were all milkmen" and shit all the time but they were still some of the best in the country at their sport.
Also, I feel like because the game was younger and people were still figuring out strategies that it would have led to a lot of creativity from coaches trying to see what does and doesn't work and what they can get away with. You also saw a lot more laterals back then because the game still wasn't that far removed from its rugby origins
... Callum Lambkin ... you make a very interesting point ... men like Allen, Halas, Shaughnessy & Paul Brown saw the sport as a near-blank canvas & they painted their innovations on it .... creating the game we have now....
3:28 only time I have seen end zones like this was in Arena Football and the CFL American experiment... amazing to see this in the NFL...
Wrigley Field
Bill Wade was my uncle so anytime I get to hear or read more stories from differentiating perspectives is a big plus!
4:19 And also 1950, which became the only year both conferences had two teams tied at the top. The Los Angeles Rams and The Chicago Bears were even in the Western, while the Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants were also even in the Eastern. As a result, 17 years before it's time, there were 2 playoff games preceding the NFL Championship.
What's really weird is that the Rams and Browns got swept by the Bears and Giants, yet both won the playoff games.
Why are these clips from the 60s so much clearer than ones from the 80s and 90s? Black and white ages better?
film ages better than video tape. Especially if the video tame is consumer-grade VHS instead of pro level Beta
@@stevevernon1978 thanks! That makes sense.
IKR? I'm always shocked at how '90s video is often as grainy and muddy as video from the late '60s/early '70s if not worse. I swear it wasn't that bad at the time.
Great story. The 1963 Bears were one of the great defenses in history. Keep in mind this is two years before Butkus is drafted. George Allen had by then established himself as one of the great assistant coaches, the man probably most responsible for leading the Bears back to the championship circle after years of second place finishes. Halas was supposed to give George Allen the HC job but he reneged and ended up being hired by the Rams. How Bears history in the 60s and 70s been different had Allen become Bears HC. Ironically in 1982, it was between Allen and Ditka for the Bears HC job. Halas wouldn’t forgive Allen for bailing ship in 1966
Allen and his reliance on old players was a has been coach by then. His '72 glory was gone.
Disagree. Allen was one of the best coaches in the NFL Packers 60s dominance would have been much different if George was running the show in Chicago
@@stevenbauer4799 Allen was 2-7 all-time in the postseason, with both wins coming in '72. That means he went one and done the other six times.
@@DolFan316 yep. My point exactly. He had one great year as a coach. Did nothing the remaining seasons. Almost like norv turner - a s b appearance.
in 1963, the Bears had the stingiest defense in pro football; while the San Diego Chargers had the most potent offense. Sid Gillman challenged Halas to a championship game, which of course, was refused. Gillman had the Chargers' rings engraved with "World Champion."
Kinda like in the late '70's when the wha avco cup champ jets challenged the nhl champ habs to a series. To which habs chickened out of it with a 'no thanks' to that idea.
The Bears totally would've crushed the Chargers, so Gillman got lucky. Hell, the Bills held them to 7 and 0 points in the next two AFC title games, which is about how a Bears-Chargers matchup that postseason would've gone.
I think the Bears very PROBABLY would have crushed the Chargers, but since we'll never know, I think the AFL teams that won championships before 1966 are entitled to count those wins as world titles. The NFL probably would not let fans of the Chargers or Bills put an extra diamond on their rings if they were to win a Super Bowl and it would only confuse their fans.
Who knows, “Buck” Halas may have been trying to give the 49ers bulletin board material to go out and destroy the Packers.
Who's "Buck" Halas? George Halas Jr. was well known as Mugs Halas.
Lets try it out for my brothers Ravens
This week, I refuse to consider the Jaguars have a chance. I dont think they have even a prayer of a chance.
Yeah, that what I thought in week 9. Bills' D did its job. Offense, not so much.
Jags have somehow gotten WORSE since Meyer was fired, which shouldn't have been humanly possible.
Always great to see Bears related videos
Whenever I hear "Which is lower than if you spike the ball into the ground every play" ...... my day is complete
If Earl Morral had done that, then maybe Whitsell doesn’t get the clinching interception
Lombardi must have been fuming at his Packers beating a 2 win team by only 4 points
Who knew that the Bears riding a God tier defence with mediocre offense went all the way back to the 60s...
George Allen was Halas' defensive coordinator in 1963....
Though, if that were to ever happen again I could see somebody on the Steelers saying "we have no chance, the Jaguars stink" lol
From '60-66 the 49ers always gave the Packers trouble at home, going 3-3-1 against them in that span. They were 0-7 on the road against the Packers during those same seasons.
There should be a couple of videos involving the 2006 playoff picture where 6 teams had a chance of two wild card spots and how crazy it played out, along with the 2022 near tie between the Chargers and Raiders that would have kicked Pittsburgh out of the playoffs.
7:59
The moment you all came for.
I came all right 😉
The Bears rushed through the guard holes made by the Packer sweep. The first clip shows that. Damn, that would have been a great playoff: 1). Can the monsters of the midway go 3 and 0 against the two time defending champions ?
2). Can Green Bay finally beat Chicago this year, (1963) and defend their championship against Y.A. Title and the New York Giants for a third straight time ?
3).The TV pop. would be insane, @ least half the country would have watched .
4). Especially as a respite against the recent assacination.
Assassination
Steelers and Ravens fans are looking at Jacksonville while watching this video lol
Btw another Pre Super Bowl playoff game was '47 Steelers vs Eagles. The only Playoff Game in Steelers History until the Immaculate Reception. Eagles dominated Steelers 21-0
*Johnny Morris, not Tommy
Seems like the Bears have relied on their D since day one, somethings never change!
Fascinating to learn that Green Bay, even with Hornung suspended, were still offensively dominant.
Hornung is actually one of the most overrated Hall Of Famers. Yes, he set the record for most points in a season, but only because he kicked FGs. He had all of two great seasons in '60 and '61 but otherwise never scored more than 8 TDs in a season. He scored 107 points in '64 with just five TDs because he kicked 41 extra points, and the Packers scored 38 TDs besides his. That season he cost them the playoffs by missing an incredible 26 FGs (and two extra points). This follows the pattern of Hornung somehow winning a Heisman for a Notre Dame team with a losing record. He led a charmed life for sure.
@@DolFan316 Great points, but it is the Hall of FAME not hall of greatness, and 90% of Americans toady recognize the famous name of Paul Hornung, but on 13% recognize the name of Del Shofner and only 7% know of Howard Mudd.
@@BillMorganChannel I just read your post (don’t ask why I was reading posts now) and it’s nice to see someone besides me automatically recognize those names. Shofner was a great receiver with the Rams and the Giants and Mudd was one of the best offensive lineman ever and one of the best offensive line coaches ever.
I wish someone would do a story about Tobin Rote, the greatest QB people don’t know about and perhaps the most underrated of all time. While not perhaps HOF worthy, he came close. When he retired, he was the career leader in rushing yards for a QB and was only the second QB to start for two different teams to win a league championship (1957 Lions and 1963 Chargers). The other three to do so are or will be in the HOF (Norm Van Brocklin, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady). Rote is also the only WB, to my knowledge, to start for three different teams in three different leagues to make the playoffs (Lions-NFL, Argonauts-CFL, Chargers-AFL). He also helped engineer the Lions comeback from a 27-7 3rd quarter deficit against the Lions in the 1957 Western Conference tie-breaker playoff game, leading them to a 31-27 win. It was the at the time and would remain so for a number of years the largest deficit for a come from behind playoff win. His performance in the 1957 NFL And 1963 Championship games were pure gold (his 1963 performance would be greatly overshadowed by Keith “Hot Rod” Lincoln’s performance and that game would make a great video as to how it definitively put the AFL on the map as a serious league worthy of respect). Also, Rote’s career stats do compare to Bobby Layne’s career stats and he is in the HOF.
@@BillMorganChannel Howard Mudd should be somewhat recognized due to being quite possibly the best OLine coach in NFL History. But OLineman don't have fantasy stats so...
@@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture I 1 million percent love your passion and hope to converse more.
It is nice to reflect ont he greatness of Howard Mudd!
I must disagree on your proposition that Tobin Rote is borderline HOFer and equal to Bobby Lanye.
Tobin Rote record as a starter: 48-64-4 2 Pro Bowls;
Bobby Layne as a starter: 80-48-4 6 Pro Bowls.
I am originally from Buffalo, on UA-cam is the complete 1964 Bills Chargers championship game. Did you know Sid Gillman shocked the world by benching the regular starter John Hadl for Tobin Rote and TR was not very effective.
TRIVIA TIME! Who was the only player to make the HOF who played only in the AFL?
Billy Wade and YA Tittle. Amazing that they didn't play for more championships than they did.
Tittle was the Jim Kelly of his era. Three straight title games, 61-63, and no wins.
@@tygrkhat4087 Before the Dolphins became a team, Tittle was my granddad's favorite player.
@@tygrkhat4087 An outstanding and underrated QB.
The Jets/Patriots divisional round game was actually kind of similar. Certain commentators were already talking about the Pats in the championship game and no one picked the Jets or even considered them winning
>:)
Woody Page flat out guaranteed a Broncos win over the Jags in the '96 playoffs because the Jags stunk. Spoiler alert: the complete opposite happened.
I never heard about this before today. I knew of the Bears Monsters of the Midway defense and that the NFL played a full schedule of games 2 days after JFK was assassinated.
Giants were in the championship game in 61, 62 and 63. 61, 62 losses to GB and 63 loss to the bears.
Funny side note. In 59, McCann was with GB and Lombardi alternated him and Starr until he knew which could win. Once Starr emerged, McCann was traded
Another strange playoff scenario was the 1967 Colts, lost only one game, and did not make the playoffs. Also, that same year, the Rams had the best record in football, and had to play the Packers in Milwaukee for the divisional playoff game.
I think that was just Halas Jr's way of tipping his cap to Lombardi.
Both the Bears and the Giants descended to last place (or next to last place) the following season. For the duration of the sixties and seventies, they were perennial losers, mired in mediocrity. That ‘63 championship was the last hurrah for both those proud franchises for a loooong time.
Both had some good battles in the '80's between ditka and parcells when they plus niners and skins ruled the nfc. They combined to win 8 straight and 10 out of 11 sb's between '82 and '92.
@@stevenbauer4799; Yes, dominant teams in the 80’s. Only the L.A. Raiders, besides those 4, won a S.B. in that 11 year span.
@@stevenbauer4799 I gave your comment a like just because you acknowledged that the team out of DC had an actual nickname before 2019.
He wanted his own team to stay focused and not be let down...and maybe give the 49ers motivation.
I wonder.... What is your passing rating if you Spike the ball on every play? 😂
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@@OfficialJaguarGator9 thanks!
I think the most important thing is that the Bears did control their own destiny so either they're focusing on their game and GB wins, or they're focusing on their game and they advance before. It was definitely a weird way to go about it but it's not ridiculous
ACtually, the funniest playoff scenario in NFL history just played out with Colts, Steelers, Chargers, and Raiders.
The Bears #47 was Johnny Morris who eventually became a sportscaster for Channel 2 News
This is precisely what makes the NFL better than college football. In NFL you earn a playoff spot on the field. In college football you earn a playoff spot by a bunch of millionaires choosing teams by sitting around the table in a smoke filled room. This is why college football needs a 12 to 16 team playoff. Take the human element out of it.
8 teams would be enough ... big 5 conference champs + 3....
'63 Bears D > '85 Bears D. Prove me wrong.
59 Years Ago
The 49ers at 2-12, gave the Bears their only loss that season. Have you been to Kezar Stadium? I played there twice.
Milt Plum played like the pits against the Packers in Week 2.
Starr didn't have his greatest game, either; maybe he didn't need to; Packers rushed for 200 yds & 3 TDs.
Looking forward to your analysis & footage (you can find) of THE GREATEST PLAYOFF ROBBERY IN NFL HISTORY - December 18, 1976 at Oakland. Madden/Raiders are nothing more than Coryell/Chargers etc. but for the tsunami of officiating gifts handed to the home team, particularly in the final minutes.
Got you covered: ua-cam.com/video/m3OYm7z0mQg/v-deo.html
You should make a video about the time George Halas saved the Packers
You sound like this guy who used to work on SB Nation and was on the show "wake up college football"
Who's here after the Raiders and Chargers very nearly sent each other to the playoffs by conceding to a tie? 🤣
That game should have ended in a tie. It all staged bullshit so Steelers can make playoffs. Never be another tie game in NFL again.
I guess I'm wondering why this was a funny playoff scenario. Just because Halas said the 49ers couldn't win? I mean yeah, that's a bit unusual, but stranger playoff scenarios have happened. In this, everything that was supposed to happen did happen. Really nothing unusual about the events.
People seem to be stuck on what Halas said. If anything, he said that so that his own players would stay focused on their game rather than hoping for the outcome of the Packers game. There's nothing wrong with that.
Yes that’s exactly why. When a joke gets made usually it falls into either funny or unfunny. This one was funny hence the title… honestly didn’t think I’d be explaining jokes to a mentally handicapped child on UA-cam today but the world is full of surprises I guess
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Halas said the 49ers would not beat the Packers.
The 49ers did not beat the Packers.
OMG I'm ROTFLMAO!!!!!
See...that doesn't work.
Great story thanks. I don't like the Bears or Packers but the NFL as a whole is more fun when they're good (both of them Chicago). The league is just more fun when someone has to pay them at home in the winter to get anywhere.
If they hadn't suspended Paul Hornung, the reigning MVP, the Packers probably would have clinched the division by then.
Hopefully the Jags, who stink, can upset the Colts so the Steelers can sneak into the playoffs. But I'm not holding my breath 😛
You can exhale now. 😁
(BTW, the Colts-Jags game shouldn't have been as big a surprise as it was... the Jags gave the Colts a tough game earlier in the season.)
Just don't remind us that was our penultimate championship :(
So I watched this the day it came out and was loved it, but what stayed w me is when you said imagine a team saying they don't have a chance, lmao the whole NFL said we're gonna change that raiders chargers game to Sunday to make it more entertaining because there's no way the colts can lose to the jags...lol look what happened
Its actually ironic to prove him wrong the niners had to win..which would help the guy who was running his mouth about them
not even gonna watch the game 💀
I cringe at the thought of lombardi too. Glad he ate some crow after sb's lll and iv.
If you’re talking about his comment about the NFL’s superiority to the AFL after Super Bowl I, I believe Lombardi said that somewhat reluctantly.
@@CTubeMan Lombardi dissed the afl as 'inferior' at every chance he had. And told fellow nfl coaches/old guard that he wanted to beat afl bad in sb's i and ii to prove nfl superiority.
Right...the only team that beat you; the only team that put up 20 on your legendary defense; has no chance on Sunday. Weird take, junior.
11:12 Worst pass in NFL history?
Oh, no, not even close. Worse pass was by Garo Yepremian in the 1972 Super Bowl. Look up the video of it if you haven't seen it before, it's hilarious, although the Dolphins didn't think it was funny at the time since it almost blew up their undefeated season. But maybe that pass doesn't count since he was a kicker and not a QB?
@@loumencken9644 I saw that one about 47,000 times growing up in the 70s.
Too many spike the ball references
... you actually think that was a big deal? ... check out the comment of Wahington owner George Preston Marshall ... after his team beat Chicao 7-3 (note those numbers) in a 1940 regular season match, Marshall told reporters that Halas' Bears fold when the going gets tough ... now check out the final score of the 1940 NFL Championship game ... Chicago 73 - Wash. 0 ... ps ... did I hear you mention a Bears receiver "Tommy Morris" ... its JOHNNY Morris....
I'm pretty sure the Bears would have won that game anyway, but it became a huge rout because of GPM's mouth. You don't score 73 points unless you're trying to score on every play long after the game had been decided, and the Bears did that to humiliate Marshall. Washington would get their revenge two years later, which would be their last championship in 40 years until the Joe Gibbs era.
Making a short story long, not worth the time or your own inserted ads.
I agree. Way too much somewhat confusing info going on and on.
1963 is mostly remembered for Pete rozelleaking the idiotic decision to play on the weekend of jfks assassination, despite it one,) being in bad taste and two) there would be no tv coverage cause every station was covering the assassination afternarh
Interestingly enough, this week the steelers need the Jaguars to beat the Colts to get into the playoffs. Which would also knock off the Colts. Will the steelers be watching? Probably not.
There at the same time anyway
Should have been a playoff. How does a team with a 11-2-1 record not even get a chance @ the title ? Even in little league baseball the top two teams play for the title.
Western Conference .
That's how it was done then. Even when the NFL expanded to 16 teams and went with four divisions from 1967-'69 it still was only the division winners who advanced to the playoffs. Only after the merger in 1970 did we have wild cards, which came about because you only had three divisions with 13 teams in each conference then.
From 1964-'66 the second place teams played in The Playoff Bowl that essentially was a third-place game. The losers in the Divisional round of the playoffs from 1967-'69 played in this game and the loser of it actually had an 0-2 record for that postseason.
... just the notion of splitting the NFL in half, creating a championship game, was radical when George Preston Marshall & Halas proposed it after the 1932 season....
For the same reason if one team won over a hundred games but finished second in the AL or NL would not play in the World Series, and the NFL Championship Game was modeled on the World Series. That's also why home field advantage was alternated. Playoff expansion in both MLB and the NFL/AFL wouldn't really happen until the 60's, and this was only 1963.
That 39.6 comment ya kbrea. Buscate otro comment.
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