Love how the fan just joins the huddle and all of 49ers players and even the refs are just standing there like it’s no big deal, btw those Pirates uniforms in ‘79 are amazing I always loved them
fun fact about the reds and pirates: as you pointed out, they each made the playoffs 6 times each in the 70's. they ended up being the only 2 national league teams to not make the playoffs in the 1980's. so naturally, they both made it in 1990.
Of course, the Reds had the National League's best record in 1981...and missed the playoffs because of the idiotic split schedule due to the players' strike. (As did St. Louis, who had the best record in the NL East).
This game also featured the last scoring touchdown of OJ Simpson's career. You know who also was on that 1979 team? Al Cowlings...oh and and a little used free safety by the name of Tony Dungy...Coincidentally I went to my first baseball game that 1979 season and saw the Reds move into first place to stay on Sept 11, 1979 a 9-8 win over the Astros
@Coogan Yes, it completely invalidates anyone else who has tied or exceeded that mark after him because they all did it in eras with more than 14 weeks. Do you honestly believe what you wrote? What if someone had come along and set that record or more in far less than 14 weeks? Does that diminish his accomplishment? I think not. This was meant as a constructive criticism by the way and not in a hostile manner, so I hope you will note that when reading this.
@Coogan No player has ever finished with over 2,000 receiving yards in a season; the current record is 1,964 yards, set by Calvin Johnson during the 2012 season. There you go. You’re wrong.
This is a weird one. My best guess is all the network’s games had tentative plans to push the time back but didn’t announce publicly, and then just didn’t move the time. The flaw in my theory is that the NLCS wrapped up on Friday, so that’d be a really quick turnaround time. So… I have no clue.
Before 1982, most NFL games in the Central Time Zone started at 2:00ET (1:00 CT). That said, I remember watching a recording of this game and wondering why NBC was flashing scores of other games in progress in the first quarter of this game with those other games already in the second quarter.
Actually, it was before 1979. There may still have been a handful on instances of 1:00 PM CT/2:00 PM ET starts from 1979-'81, there seem to be very few as the only 2:00 PM ET starts otherwise were in Baltimore. It amazes me the NFL had not done some 11:00 AM MT starts in Denver and (when the rest of the country is on standard time) Arizona so they can be at 1:00 PM ET. College Football routinely has 11:00 AM starts in the Central time zone.
@@drewzuhosky6826 Which sometimes is a mistake. They could do that in Denver and (after the clocks change to standard time everywhere else) Glendale have games start at 11:00 AM local/1:00 PM ET. Also on a Saturday would allow for an NFL Network quadrupleheader with games at 11:00 AM/2:30/6:00/9:30 PM ET.
With the Seattle/San Francisco game blacked out in the Bay Area. Seattle, Spokane, Yakima, and Portland (Oregon) were probably the only cities that got this game.
I wonder if Alaska got it, too. Seahawks games have aired there often for many years. I think secondary market rules would've also taken out at least the Sacramento/Stockton/Modesto DMA as well.
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Same thing occurred in 1980 when the Royals were in the World Series. Chiefs' game at Denver the same day as game 5 of the WS at Royals Stadium was moved to the CBS affiliate.
You know what it could have been? Apparently on October 6 1979, there was a MAJOR hostage situation in San Francisco. It literally shut the city down. I know the game was on October 7th, but perhaps they moved it back an hour since maybe they didn't get to practice or anything on the 6th. Again, nothing I found said that was the reason, but the timing seems a bit auspicious.
Seattle hosted a game in it's temporary home (Husky stadium) that was played at 6:00pm et in 1994 due to some conflict with the college. But for this game, wouldnt moving up the kickoff time an hour earlier than scheduled cause confusion. Not to mention what the times printed on the paper tickets would say. BTW, these are both pacific time teams that were playing.
because he made seahawks competitive by year three given the fact when you take into account the garbage seahawks and succs (who were beyond horrible) got thru the expansion draft process and seahawks trading away the top pick of the '77 draft to boys that turned into tony dorsett
The Hawks were 9-7 in an era where third year teams in established leagues didn't have that kind of success (the Cowboys weren't so much as a.500 team til their sixth year) and swept the Raiders in Madden's swan song. Who would you rather give it to, Landry, Noll?
1. One Seahawks game in 1994 (when they did 3 games at Husky Stadium due to Kingdome roof repairs) started at 3PM Pacific time due to freshman orientation at University of Washington. 2. You're right about MLB not going against the NFL on Sunday. The 2022 World Series had a planned day schedule of Friday/Saturday/Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Friday/Saturday. Of course everything was pushed back a day because of the game 3 rainout; but luckily it finished in six games. Game 7 would've been on Sunday. Then again, MLB basically concedes on Mondays now due to Monday Night Football. 3. But in the past if an LCS series made it to a Monday, the game would be at 3pm Eastern to avoid MNF.
In another interesting what if about game 5 of the NLCS. The Cincinnati Bengals (0-5) also were scheduled to play the KC Chiefs (3-2) at home that day. I would imagine the game would have been booted to Monday Night and locally broadcast... but why would the NFL schedule a home game for the Bengals vs. a non-divisional foe knowing that the Reds were still a good team (finished 2nd the last couple of years, granted, not in the playoffs, but certainly in the hunt until the last bit of the season). At least a divisional game could be flipped around if necessary.
Because the NFL knew that even if the Reds made the playoffs, they wouldn't gotten game 5 because of the way MLB structured the LCS at the time. Until the 1994 MLB realignment, the way home field advantage worked in the LCS wasn't by best record, but instead rotated between the divisions, and in 1979 the NL East had home field. In addition, in the Best of 5 LCS era, MLB structured the games where the team who had home field were given games 3-5.
@ElFuego35 I did miss that part as to home/away... though scheduling a game in say Houston would have likely been more advisable since a later start would not matter in a dome (Noon vs 3)... but since the game would have began at the same time as a potential Game 5 of the NLCS...
@@ElFuego35 MLB's playoff schedule had to be that predictable at the time because New York, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, Oakland, San Diego, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Atlanta, San Francisco, Anaheim, and Seattle all shared stadiums with the NFL, Kansas City shared a parking lot, and Toronto shared with the CFL.
@@mrmoose6619 Now that, I agree with you on. Why schedule that game at 1:00, especially considering that it was 2 AFC games in a pre-flex scheduling era, meaning that the game would have to be sold to another station in the market since NBC was going to air MLB Playoffs at that time.
There was only a very, very, minute chance there would be an LCS game in Cincinnati 10/7/79. The NL West had home field for games 1-2 (Oct. 3-4), and the East had it for the next three, so it was fine unless there was a rash of rainouts.
The 2 pm PDT start had been set before the baseball playoffs began-probably before the season started. So there was no way NBC was going to move it back an hour on about 45 hours’ notice after Pittsburgh clinched the NLCS. Although the start time was 5 pm EDT, it’s virtually certain this game wasn’t shown east of the Pacific Time Zone, especially with the Broncos’ game dominating Mountain Time Zone markets (and possibly in some Central Time Markets). My then-home market of South Bend, Indiana got Pittsburgh-Cleveland, which proved highly entertaining. Seattle-SF was probably the only game NBC could move back within contractual and scheduling constraints.
It was set because of the playoffs. It was originally scheduled for 1:00 as of the end of September. The articles I found said that it was pushed back due to TV obligations
I never doubted the game time was due to the playoffs. My only question was when it was set. I’ve confirmed it was originally a 1 pm PT start when the schedule was released on April 5. A September 26 blurb in the San Francisco Examiner says it was moved to 2 pm “to accommodate NBC.” This was just a few days after LCS game times were set. The October 7 baseball schedule, if either/both series went 5 games or had rainouts, had NLCS Game 5 at 1 pm ET at the NL East champion (Pittsburgh clinched on the final weekend), and ALCS Game 5 at 8:30 pm ET at the AL West champion (California). Before those times were set, there was a theoretical chance the ALCS game could have been in the afternoon, necessitating a 4 pm ET start if the Angels hosted, which probably would have pushed Seahawks-49ers off NBC entirely. But with confirmation that the NLCS game would have started at 1 pm ET, NBC got the Seahawks-49ers moved back an hour, and presumably was unable to move any other games for the reasons I stated. Although the Pirates clinched the NLCS on Friday afternoon, there was no compelling reason to go to the trouble of moving the 49ers kickoff back to 1 pm.
I'm surprised they assigned Marv Albert to this dog of a game. I guess he was low on NBC's pecking order for NFL games behind Enberg, Jones and Criqui.
Wait did you say Largent lead both teams in recieving with 83 yards? I know it was a different era, but 83 yards through 4 games? Damn Nevermind i heard "entered the game" not "ended"
We might see overlap this Sunday with the World Cup Final between France & Argentina & the NFL on Fox. The final is kicking off at 10 AM ET/ 7 AM PT with Fox's hope that it gets done on time to show the Fox NFL Sunday pregame show at its normal time. However if the final goes into extra time (which is 30 minutes) or worse penalty kicks, it is very likely that Fox will either move the pregame show to FS1 or scrap it entirely & join the 1 PM ET/10 AM PT games in progress. For those wondering why Fox would not simply move the World Cup Final over to FS1 when the NFL games start it is because they are contractually obligated by FIFA to show the Final in its entirety on big Fox. Besides Fox would lose a ton of viewers & revenue if they actually did this because people would switch over to Telemundo/Peacock (which is owned by NBC) to watch the Final. And no Fox & the NFL can't push the start time of the 1 PM ET games back an hour like this scenario because teams would complain about their preparation being messed up due to being told information on short notice. Lastly, I find it strange that NBC broadcast this game when CBS should have broadcast it due to the 49ers being the home team.
The last part is backwards, the Sunday afternoon packages are based on the VISITING teams, not the home teams. And, believe it or not, the Seattle Seahawks were in the AFC from 1978 to 2001, so this game was part of the AFC package which was held by NBC at the time.
NFL should have for this week moved back all games a half-hour, with the FOX games at 1:30 and 4:05 (FOX is single game so the 4:05 games would not have to change) with the CBS doubleheader at 1:30 and 4:55 and Sunday Night Football pushed back to an 8:50 PM ET kickoff. That would have solved the issue as barring a mass number of injuries that caused a ton of stoppage time, even if it went Extra Time and PKs, the match would have been over well ahead of a 1:30 PM ET kickoff.
jim zorn to largent was a nice combo. and seahawks beat niners in the the first year of the to be montana/walsh niner 'dynasty'. 'I'M A C DAMMIT. You know who I am.' That murdering m0fo o j who was so washed up then and had no knees left scored his last nfl td that day. Then went on to play nordberg in between nfl and murder. And why did o j have a german name in 'naked gun?'
Love how the fan just joins the huddle and all of 49ers players and even the refs are just standing there like it’s no big deal, btw those Pirates uniforms in ‘79 are amazing I always loved them
fun fact about the reds and pirates:
as you pointed out, they each made the playoffs 6 times each in the 70's.
they ended up being the only 2 national league teams to not make the playoffs in the 1980's.
so naturally, they both made it in 1990.
Went wire to wire in 90
Of course, the Reds had the National League's best record in 1981...and missed the playoffs because of the idiotic split schedule due to the players' strike. (As did St. Louis, who had the best record in the NL East).
This game also featured the last scoring touchdown of OJ Simpson's career. You know who also was on that 1979 team? Al Cowlings...oh and and a little used free safety by the name of Tony Dungy...Coincidentally I went to my first baseball game that 1979 season and saw the Reds move into first place to stay on Sept 11, 1979 a 9-8 win over the Astros
He could slice up a defense like no other.
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@Coogan Yes, it completely invalidates anyone else who has tied or exceeded that mark after him because they all did it in eras with more than 14 weeks. Do you honestly believe what you wrote? What if someone had come along and set that record or more in far less than 14 weeks? Does that diminish his accomplishment? I think not. This was meant as a constructive criticism by the way and not in a hostile manner, so I hope you will note that when reading this.
@Coogan Get dunked on, *🤡* .
@Coogan No player has ever finished with over 2,000 receiving yards in a season; the current record is 1,964 yards, set by Calvin Johnson during the 2012 season.
There you go. You’re wrong.
This is a weird one. My best guess is all the network’s games had tentative plans to push the time back but didn’t announce publicly, and then just didn’t move the time. The flaw in my theory is that the NLCS wrapped up on Friday, so that’d be a really quick turnaround time. So… I have no clue.
The footage of the fan on the field is how i see the world without my glasses
Before 1982, most NFL games in the Central Time Zone started at 2:00ET (1:00 CT).
That said, I remember watching a recording of this game and wondering why NBC was flashing scores of other games in progress in the first quarter of this game with those other games already in the second quarter.
Actually, it was before 1979. There may still have been a handful on instances of 1:00 PM CT/2:00 PM ET starts from 1979-'81, there seem to be very few as the only 2:00 PM ET starts otherwise were in Baltimore.
It amazes me the NFL had not done some 11:00 AM MT starts in Denver and (when the rest of the country is on standard time) Arizona so they can be at 1:00 PM ET. College Football routinely has 11:00 AM starts in the Central time zone.
@@WaltGekko The NFL generally avoids starting games before 12 noon local time if it's at all possible.
@@drewzuhosky6826 Which sometimes is a mistake. They could do that in Denver and (after the clocks change to standard time everywhere else) Glendale have games start at 11:00 AM local/1:00 PM ET. Also on a Saturday would allow for an NFL Network quadrupleheader with games at 11:00 AM/2:30/6:00/9:30 PM ET.
With the Seattle/San Francisco game blacked out in the Bay Area. Seattle, Spokane, Yakima, and Portland (Oregon) were probably the only cities that got this game.
I wonder if Alaska got it, too. Seahawks games have aired there often for many years. I think secondary market rules would've also taken out at least the Sacramento/Stockton/Modesto DMA as well.
And Vancouver BC Canada since it was possible for them to get the NBC affiliate in Seattle due to how close to the border they are.
@@chrisguardiano6143 CTV Vancouver and CTV2 Vancouver Island air as many Seahawks games as they can.
Sounds like Marv Albert was calling this game 🏈
YES!
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The Chiefs-Bengals game that week was the only "NBC" game that kicked off at 1:00. As a contingency, the game aired on KC's CBS affiliate that week.
Cross-flexing more than 30 years before the NFL developed an official policy on games swapping networks
Og flex scheduling?
Same thing occurred in 1980 when the Royals were in the World Series. Chiefs' game at Denver the same day as game 5 of the WS at Royals Stadium was moved to the CBS affiliate.
@@targettoad691 Partially. It was an NBC broadcast but it aired on the CBS affiliate
In 1978, the week 7 game against Oakland was aired on the ABC affiliate due to the World Series apparently...
You know what it could have been? Apparently on October 6 1979, there was a MAJOR hostage situation in San Francisco. It literally shut the city down. I know the game was on October 7th, but perhaps they moved it back an hour since maybe they didn't get to practice or anything on the 6th. Again, nothing I found said that was the reason, but the timing seems a bit auspicious.
This game was pushed back while the Steelers/Browns game wasn't? I need someone to make it make sense to me.
A bigger question here, how did the '79 Chargers get shut out in a game??
How far baseball has fallen.
And the Pirates haven’t been back to the World Series since 1979.
Ahhhhh....when baseball ruled.
Seattle hosted a game in it's temporary home (Husky stadium) that was played at 6:00pm et in 1994 due to some conflict with the college. But for this game, wouldnt moving up the kickoff time an hour earlier than scheduled cause confusion. Not to mention what the times printed on the paper tickets would say. BTW, these are both pacific time teams that were playing.
Seahawks vs 49ers rivalry
It wasn't much of a rivalry back then, that's for damn sure
Especially since Seahawks were a AFC team 🏈
Before it even was a rivalry!
Only the second meeting between the teams. They wouldn't play again until 1985.
@@DNSKansas Actually I believe third. Seahawks were in the NFC West in their first season in 1976.
Jack patera and the seahawks never made the playoffs, and yet somehow he was named 1978 coach of the year
because he made seahawks competitive by year three given the fact when you take into account the garbage seahawks and succs (who were beyond horrible) got thru the expansion draft process and seahawks trading away the top pick of the '77 draft to boys that turned into tony dorsett
The Hawks were 9-7 in an era where third year teams in established leagues didn't have that kind of success (the Cowboys weren't so much as a.500 team til their sixth year) and swept the Raiders in Madden's swan song. Who would you rather give it to, Landry, Noll?
Not saying he didn't deserve it, I'm just saying, most coach of the year winners have at least one playoff team
This was when baseball was still king and was priority over a meaningless Niners Vs Seahawks matchup wouldn’t have happened nowadays!
1. One Seahawks game in 1994 (when they did 3 games at Husky Stadium due to Kingdome roof repairs) started at 3PM Pacific time due to freshman orientation at University of Washington.
2. You're right about MLB not going against the NFL on Sunday. The 2022 World Series had a planned day schedule of Friday/Saturday/Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Friday/Saturday. Of course everything was pushed back a day because of the game 3 rainout; but luckily it finished in six games. Game 7 would've been on Sunday. Then again, MLB basically concedes on Mondays now due to Monday Night Football.
3. But in the past if an LCS series made it to a Monday, the game would be at 3pm Eastern to avoid MNF.
The year was also is birth on December 31st
Aw the days before the Blunderbirds were in the modern NFC West
They had been in the old NFC West in '76 before they and the Bucs swapped conferences.
In another interesting what if about game 5 of the NLCS. The Cincinnati Bengals (0-5) also were scheduled to play the KC Chiefs (3-2) at home that day. I would imagine the game would have been booted to Monday Night and locally broadcast... but why would the NFL schedule a home game for the Bengals vs. a non-divisional foe knowing that the Reds were still a good team (finished 2nd the last couple of years, granted, not in the playoffs, but certainly in the hunt until the last bit of the season). At least a divisional game could be flipped around if necessary.
Because the NFL knew that even if the Reds made the playoffs, they wouldn't gotten game 5 because of the way MLB structured the LCS at the time.
Until the 1994 MLB realignment, the way home field advantage worked in the LCS wasn't by best record, but instead rotated between the divisions, and in 1979 the NL East had home field. In addition, in the Best of 5 LCS era, MLB structured the games where the team who had home field were given games 3-5.
@ElFuego35 I did miss that part as to home/away... though scheduling a game in say Houston would have likely been more advisable since a later start would not matter in a dome (Noon vs 3)... but since the game would have began at the same time as a potential Game 5 of the NLCS...
@@ElFuego35 MLB's playoff schedule had to be that predictable at the time because New York, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, Oakland, San Diego, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Atlanta, San Francisco, Anaheim, and Seattle all shared stadiums with the NFL, Kansas City shared a parking lot, and Toronto shared with the CFL.
@@mrmoose6619 Now that, I agree with you on. Why schedule that game at 1:00, especially considering that it was 2 AFC games in a pre-flex scheduling era, meaning that the game would have to be sold to another station in the market since NBC was going to air MLB Playoffs at that time.
There was only a very, very, minute chance there would be an LCS game in Cincinnati 10/7/79. The NL West had home field for games 1-2 (Oct. 3-4), and the East had it for the next three, so it was fine unless there was a rash of rainouts.
Someone must've missed the memo that there was no baseball game haha
The 2 pm PDT start had been set before the baseball playoffs began-probably before the season started. So there was no way NBC was going to move it back an hour on about 45 hours’ notice after Pittsburgh clinched the NLCS. Although the start time was 5 pm EDT, it’s virtually certain this game wasn’t shown east of the Pacific Time Zone, especially with the Broncos’ game dominating Mountain Time Zone markets (and possibly in some Central Time Markets). My then-home market of South Bend, Indiana got Pittsburgh-Cleveland, which proved highly entertaining. Seattle-SF was probably the only game NBC could move back within contractual and scheduling constraints.
It was set because of the playoffs. It was originally scheduled for 1:00 as of the end of September. The articles I found said that it was pushed back due to TV obligations
I never doubted the game time was due to the playoffs. My only question was when it was set. I’ve confirmed it was originally a 1 pm PT start when the schedule was released on April 5. A September 26 blurb in the San Francisco Examiner says it was moved to 2 pm “to accommodate NBC.” This was just a few days after LCS game times were set. The October 7 baseball schedule, if either/both series went 5 games or had rainouts, had NLCS Game 5 at 1 pm ET at the NL East champion (Pittsburgh clinched on the final weekend), and ALCS Game 5 at 8:30 pm ET at the AL West champion (California). Before those times were set, there was a theoretical chance the ALCS game could have been in the afternoon, necessitating a 4 pm ET start if the Angels hosted, which probably would have pushed Seahawks-49ers off NBC entirely. But with confirmation that the NLCS game would have started at 1 pm ET, NBC got the Seahawks-49ers moved back an hour, and presumably was unable to move any other games for the reasons I stated. Although the Pirates clinched the NLCS on Friday afternoon, there was no compelling reason to go to the trouble of moving the 49ers kickoff back to 1 pm.
San Francisco bay area Viewers did not get to watch the game!
They were all stuck on Muni trying to get to the game....
Actually, they were SPARED!!
Right 🤨
And 44 years later....... They're now the NFC West Rivalries
(present day 2023 off-season/2022-23 post season playoff bound).
I'm surprised they assigned Marv Albert to this dog of a game. I guess he was low on NBC's pecking order for NFL games behind Enberg, Jones and Criqui.
Plus he had just been hired by NBC
Albert was also behind Jay Randolph and Merle Harmon in 1979
This was before Marv became Marv as we would know him.
Also behind Don Criqui, who had just come over to NBC from CBS (where he had been since the mid-1960's) at that point.
@@WaltGekko Yes, many years before he bit anybody as far as we know.
I really wish players took fans running onto the field more lightly than this overly macho gotta thump the shit out of them mentality
Here with in a hour
Wait did you say Largent lead both teams in recieving with 83 yards? I know it was a different era, but 83 yards through 4 games? Damn
Nevermind i heard "entered the game" not "ended"
I was at this one. LOL
Joe Thomas was a joke as a General Manager
Mad tackle by Dan Fouts!
👍👍
We might see overlap this Sunday with the World Cup Final between France & Argentina & the NFL on Fox. The final is kicking off at 10 AM ET/ 7 AM PT with Fox's hope that it gets done on time to show the Fox NFL Sunday pregame show at its normal time. However if the final goes into extra time (which is 30 minutes) or worse penalty kicks, it is very likely that Fox will either move the pregame show to FS1 or scrap it entirely & join the 1 PM ET/10 AM PT games in progress. For those wondering why Fox would not simply move the World Cup Final over to FS1 when the NFL games start it is because they are contractually obligated by FIFA to show the Final in its entirety on big Fox. Besides Fox would lose a ton of viewers & revenue if they actually did this because people would switch over to Telemundo/Peacock (which is owned by NBC) to watch the Final. And no Fox & the NFL can't push the start time of the 1 PM ET games back an hour like this scenario because teams would complain about their preparation being messed up due to being told information on short notice. Lastly, I find it strange that NBC broadcast this game when CBS should have broadcast it due to the 49ers being the home team.
The last part is backwards, the Sunday afternoon packages are based on the VISITING teams, not the home teams. And, believe it or not, the Seattle Seahawks were in the AFC from 1978 to 2001, so this game was part of the AFC package which was held by NBC at the time.
Not to mention a post game show for the World Cup Trophy presentation.
@@tylerlarsen1842 The Seahawks were in the AFC from 1977 to 2001, not 1978.
@@americanidol30 Whoops, my bad
NFL should have for this week moved back all games a half-hour, with the FOX games at 1:30 and 4:05 (FOX is single game so the 4:05 games would not have to change) with the CBS doubleheader at 1:30 and 4:55 and Sunday Night Football pushed back to an 8:50 PM ET kickoff. That would have solved the issue as barring a mass number of injuries that caused a ton of stoppage time, even if it went Extra Time and PKs, the match would have been over well ahead of a 1:30 PM ET kickoff.
jim zorn to largent was a nice combo. and seahawks beat niners in the the first year of the to be montana/walsh niner 'dynasty'.
'I'M A C DAMMIT. You know who I am.' That murdering m0fo o j who was so washed up then and had no knees left scored his last nfl td that day. Then went on to play nordberg in between nfl and murder. And why did o j have a german name in 'naked gun?'