He either avoids bringing this "reciepts" up or he says he cant show them because "his lawyer says so". Ridiculous from a man who posted revenge porn before...
I feel like he says these things as a threat to the people who know things about him, like a warning that he'll ruin them if they try to get in his way, even if hes lying he'll scare someone into silence
I do believe that jeffree did want to ruin James since he is new, young, with good fresh ideas and climbs closer and closer to the throne. Jeffree keeps repeating "I'm rich, I'm #1 man in makeup" when no one is actually questioning it or mentioning it. That makes me believe that Jeffree was threatened by James. that is clear. I mean, he's older and how long can you be relatable "clap back queen"? So he was threatened by James and wanted to ruin his career to keep the crown, at least for a while longer. he is manipulative enough (seen enough of him talking and how he twists the conversation and so on) to be able to ruin someone by manipulating others and seem like a wolf in a sheep's clothing. that's my two cents.
I agree to be honest. I think if Jeffree’s ego didn’t feel threatened he would have actually come to James’ defense when the Tati video came out since Jeffree has always been open about how he’s only ever attracted to straight men and only goes after straight men. The hypocrisy.
Honestly, probably true. Going by that thought: Tati's "BYE SISTER" video (on top of the mass unfollowing that happened to James) gave Jeffree the perfect opportunity to say something against James that's even more damaging. Plenty of people had pointed out that while Tati calling out James like that was problematic, Jeffree made it many times worse by essentially accusing James of being a criminal without any evidence. He might NEVER had said anything against James prior to Tati's video, since James did have his own sizable fanbase, but he saw the teetering scales and jumped on it. Unfortunately for him, James bounced back, in a way that probably restored a lot of people's faith in him as both a UA-camr and a person. It rendered Jeffree's "efforts" moot and also made Jeffree look even pettier...not that his cult-like fans care, but a lot more people do now.
Dei ,also personally I feel like jeffree doesn’t do makeup “tutorials/videos” anymore it’s just reviews and launches. And James has creative ideas and have fun and at the moment he’s just living his life, while jeffree is obsessed with his drama lol
I think people let Shane get away with too much. He's friends with too many problematic people for it to be coincidence. Jeffree, Trisha, and Tana? I get wanting to see the best in people but he needs to realize that with a platform as big as his he can't be promoting people like this over and over again.
It is incredibly disappointing to see Angelika pushing manipulative defenses of Shane onto her audience in this video. Shane has an incredibly racist past that he has never taken accountability for. Even the times he has addressed it, he was heavily censoring and manipulating the narrative of what he did. Never showing the numerous incidents of blackface or using the n word with the hard R, bringing his Black friend around so that he could justify his racism-the same things that Angelika is rightly criticizing Jeffree for. Shane has a pattern of elevating white youtubers with racist controversies. People need to stop infantilizing Shane, it is just buying into his manipulation.
Well, in her defense I watched Shane from the time I was 9 to 17. It wasn't until 4 months ago I was rewatching old videos with him and Shanna and I was really just like "wait a min. TF did he just say". So I lw get it, we get caught up in idolizing people who never even deserved it. I still fw Morgan tho ngl.
Right?! I guess I don’t get it because I’m almost 30 and never had to experience emotional attachments to anyone other than Britney Spears and Charlie the Unicorn. I was a senior in college when I started watching influencers on here, so its easier for me to go ”not feeling this anymore” and unfollow
@@nicarmendariz9079 I unfollowed Morgan after her support for Trisha the toxic troll and bully. They all know what they're doing. There's alot of genuine nice and funny people who you can watch and support.
Shane. Is. A. Grown. Ass. Man. Who. Has. Been. On. UA-cam. Forever. He's not stupid or being manipulated. Its just what he would like his audience believe.
even tho I deeply agree, i think Shane has many self esteem problems, so when he started to get friends like Jeffree or Tana or any kinds of people he didn't think much about it, i guess he sees them now by how they are but if he says anything he would be left without any friends, even if it's shit better alone than in bad company, but it's difficult to make that change, if he doesn't do it he will get serious repercussions on followers and his channel
@@danielamariabelcin8317 lol do you really think he is innocent he is almost friends with most problematic people on UA-cam j*, tana, Trisha and you wonder he has fucking idea about them... sorry he is one of them that's why he has such tight friendship with them.
@@s.r189 I feel like he honestly just sees the good in everyone. That said, I agree and I absolutely despise he supports Trisha. like even if you do have a soft spot for close friends who are controversial, man there is a line you shouldn't cross. He needs to ditch them asap or else people going to continue to loose major respect for this guy.
What really upsets me is if he says stuff like "I have dirt on people" like... With James he said he had evidence of James being a predator (I don't think he does, but for arguments sake, let's say he does) so like... You have dirt and evidence of people committing horrific crimes and instead of taking this evidence to the police, helping victims, putting predators in jail etc; He'd rather weaponise his blackmail to help further his own career? Yuck.
Yes! I’ve been thinking this since the whole drama started. Like jeffree made serious allegations about james and now that everything is over, we’re just gna sweep it under the rug? WTF! No
I used to be a biased of Shane too but then I started to question why he hung out with people like Trisha, Jeffree, tana, Jake Paul, if Shane is all nice and dandy then why is he close with so many bad controversial people, people only hang out with people if they can relate to them or have a similar personality I so I can only assume that Shane is hanging with those type of people because he is exactly like them, and his controversies in the past doesn't make it any better, I just feel like Shane is better at putting up a facade then the rest of his friends, I mean it worked people put him on this pedestal now that if he were to ever do wrong people would call it fake or just forgive him instantly
i feel like the case with Shane is so special and different than other youtubers. he’s like an elder of youtube, he’s been around forever, and he’s a part of a lot of our childhoods/teenagehoods- and that makes it so hard to see and accept the fact that he is friends with these people while he knows full well what they stand for, who they benefit from, etc. that’s the same reason he gets away with it too. i feel like youtube has changed him, and that jefree has him under his spell
S croix he has body issues so of course he’s always talking about his weight and weight in general, there’s nothing wrong with that?? Also, Shanaenae is a character that was CREATED by Martin Lawrence in the early 90’. It was one of the most popular shows of my time, it is literally reminiscent of my childhood...so seeing Shane be that character didn’t put any offense in my head whatsoever. When he did that skit it never occurred to me he was making fun of Black women.
I said this in another comment, but I think the reason Shane associates with these people is that he wants to help change them. I mean look at his series he's done. He truly wants to "fix" these people, but he's not understood you can't "fix" adults like that. they're not good hearted kids who just need some guidance. He's unbearably naive
Amber Flowers he painted these people as victims and was biased throughout the series’. his “documentaries” were more like interviews. he misrepresented and discarded a lot of information that mislead his audience, while most of his series’ didn’t talk about much of anything, just surface stuff that could’ve been said without him. and honestly, do you think that these people would do a “docu-series” that shows them in a bad light? this was all damage control and out of these fucked up situations the people who were the main causes got let off scott free
Honey Moon he wasn’t “talking about weight” though, he was downright body shaming people. even if you deal with body issues what gives you the right to speak and shame someone else’s body? and shane didn’t be the character that martin played. he literally did blackface and degraded black women, calling them monkeys, the n-word, and portraying them as uncivilized people. and even if he was copying martin, he did NOT have to paint himself brown to do it. blackface is not and will NEVER be ok
I hate when people say "they've changed" yet show little to no improvement on changing. His ways of "improvement" is LYING and his brainwashed fanbase eat it up like a baby being fed. Like come on dude..
Veronica Star LITERALLY, people like ‘tHeY sAiD Š0RWie.’ And I’m like okay great they said two words, yes they might mean that but if they don’t make a change it’s just devoid of true remorse.
Valentine2000 Ok ignore that last one!! I didn’t read it correctly, but you’re right, it’s weird that they support a guy who still supports a child predator and won’t come out with what he quote on Quote “saw” with D*vi Vanity.
half the time "they've changed" just means "they haven't said a slur in like... a month so 🙄". i honestly don't think a fan of someone could ever know if that person has genuinely changed... like unless someone else whistleblows, you only see what the person chooses to let you see.
His fans are soooo brainwashed. I sent my friend several links exposing him and all she said was: but he donated so much money Yeah, I know. Donating money doesn't make you a good person. If you literally stab someone and then feed the homeless, the good doesn't cancel out the bad.
omg a girl i work with said the same thing i told her i didnt like him because i think hes a bad person and her reply was literally no he donates alot.
I have a friend who really liked him even a month ago and I asked her last week if she likes him. She said yes so I dropped a whole history of stuff that he's done even up to like a month ago. She said "wow that's fucked up"
Then they use the excuse that his makeup is really good. I think his palettes are okay but there’s so many other brands that I personally think are better. His concealers and lipsticks I’ve hardly seen anyone use as staples. I personally think there’s so many better brands to support.
Two things: 1. JS is capable of hiring a hit man on someone. No doubt. / 2. I feel like Shane is the Ellen of UA-cam. Acting one way in front of the camera but being a whole other mean persona behind it.
it really bothers me that Jeffree accused James of all of these horrible things like being a predator etc. when James was at his peak causing James to lose MILLIONS of followers even though Jeffree had no proof. then Jeffree literally has all of these people speaking out against him, proving he's a bad person, and none of his fans bat an eye.
All his fans say is "you're bringing that up again?! He's a changed man!" and I'm like where girl? Don't see any change + J* is the one with videos where he is grabbing other men.... (among many other things)
Up until recently, I was a huge Jeffree fan. I've spent so much money on his makeup, and I love it all so much, but after seeing so much stuff come out against him (I was never huge into UA-cam "drama" or anything like that until semi recently) I was really horrified to see the type of person he truly is. I unfollowed him from every platform, and I will never buy from him again, as much as I love his makeup. I feel so guilty that it took me so long to realize how awful he is, I wish more of his fans would open their eyes to his awfulness.
mmhmm he's still friends with trisha, tana, and he tried it with making jake paul seem sympathetic and look at where jake is looting stores during black lives matter. He basically made a video of tana crying about throwing a shit convention and dehydrating ppl in the LA summer and wasting people's time who flew there. He's always been toxic.
Leslie Anne I’m not saying this to be mean or funny, but you seem way too emotionally invested in someone you don’t know and who doesn’t know you. I get that you want Shane to get credit where it’s due, but your comment came across as a pretty big overreaction to what Elle said.
Then why didn't shane do it himself? Because he needed that guidance..so although we know Jeffree made lots off Shane..no matter how much you hate him you can't deny Jeffree had a huge hand in the lines success as well..unless one's bias makes one delusional..Jeffree has done some awful stuff like 70 percent of UA-cam but it's fair to say no matter what he does people will always spin it in a negative light. There are other beauty influencers who have literally done the same exact stuff but don't get as much shit as Jeffree does. Half of the beauty channels are out for numer one and talk mad shit about each other and a big chunk of youtube is high school..drama channels included..not saying it is a bad thing..it isn't I suppose but there are always lots of pots calling kettles
@@taradactule6052 If I found out another beauty channel supported a predator or told someone they wish they would get shot in the head with a rubber bullet, I would give them the same level of shit.
it should be "Jeremiaha Starfish is a sociopath" lol they should loot his mansion set it on fire n throw grains of salt over it like they did back in the day so that empires wouldn't come back up lmaoo
James would never. He knows it’s a better business decision to never utter the words jeffree Star again. It’s a better power move for james to just move on and be super successful 💞
Tati would never, after the bye sister video she got trashed and ruined her own reputation she would never do that agian. That's if she returns to UA-cam.
Don't act like Tati is innocent in this, she's a grown woman and she knew what she was doing. I wouldn't be suprised if James doesn't want to have anything to do with her anymore.
Same with making Tati seem more innocent than she was by saying Jeffree orchestrated it. Tati is a grown woman. Maybe older than Jeffree? I love Angelica but Tati sent her her makeup and they talk. She’s not going to go in as hard. But Tati is and was a grown woman making that video instead of responding to texts/calls from James and handling it privately. James would have to have physically hurt her loved ones for a grown woman publicly humiliating a TEEN to be okay. She has a young stepson. How would she feel if another woman did that to him?
Personally... Shane comes off as kind of fake to me. Some of the things in his recent videos like the way mental health issues were presented and discussed in the Jake Paul series were not handled well. He pushes being an empath when his behaviour can contradict that. He can react very badly to constructive criticism from fans, causing problems for them when doing so publicly on twitter. It's just hard to know what's real with him. His old content is a whole other thing. I don't know.
Literally! Everything she says just is so logical and makes so much sense. She’s not like them other “tea channels” who just go on about useless tea and have an opinion that makes nooo sense. But she literally fires facts at us and everything she says is so thought out. That’s honestly why I love her channel sm😂❤️
@@Emma-vi6bw well she wasnt so realistic when she didnt get why js doesnt giving his warehouse for charity to keep food in it or goods. So saying she always true hehe thats funny but yes still a channel worth to watch because no bullshiting going around.
Can we just remember that these are full grown men and women? They are so petty and dramatic about other people being successful. They’re all like high school students. It’s honestly disgusting
It's not so surprising as many adults don't change so much in the high school pettiness aspect, you see a lot of it plus added viciousness in office politics and even in academia. As these kinds of behaviors don't face much consequence in high-school and they lived off it around that time, i find it weird when ppl say later - oh they'll grow up , it was just a phase. Bullies and assholes just don't become normal, decent folks because they are no longer teenagers and are done with high-school. They never got confronted, faced repercussions or 'corrected' the wrongs. Also society rewards sociopaths.
“Full grown” men and women are not perfect. Just bc you’re an adult doesn’t mean you know better, it doesn’t dismiss you from making mistakes, either. Humans aren’t perfect
@@honeymoon4130 ; um, yeah, it does kinda mean you should know better. at their big ages, they've had more than enough life experience to know right from wrong. their frontal lobes finished developing many years ago and society expects a certain level of maturity and decency once you've entered adulthood. they are grown. they need to act like it.
I feel like Shane Dawson gets away with too much. He's friends with problematic people (Tana, Trisha, Jeffree), not only that but he promotes them too. I think he has a racist past that came out a few years ago, but no one really talks about it. He's an OG UA-camr and he's very popular and that's great, but its no excuse to just let everything slide.
@@rc-tm6zv right and I don't feel comfortable with the fact that his fan base full of teenage girls that treat him (a 30yr old man) like a child who needs protecting and he's ok with it.
AA 2954 what do you mean no one talks about it? Every year on twitter theirs a #shaneisoverparty spam about stuff he already addressed and apologised for
Shay Kent he also continued to profit after his “apology” by selling his blackface shirts and keeping the videos up on his channel. He’s vile www.reddit.com/r/ShaneDawson/comments/defil5/why_is_shane_still_selling_a_shanaynay_tshirt_on/
the fact that shane talks to you lol. He's really the king of emotional manipulation- no wonder none of the drama channels will speak against him because he's in all their dms.
Shane is just as toxic. He’s not the timid sweet person that he presents himself to be. He’s a vicious vile queen that is bitter at those that are younger/ prettier
I learned as a person who’s suffered a narcissist abusive relationship I know from therapy my part played. I stayed for the same reasons some of JS supporters did but it doesn’t excuse me either. I struggled with this but once realizing this I was then able to be truly free. JS is dangerous and people like him are everywhere in high places. We have to be aware.
@@jenayalivad2247 I got out of two friendships because people use anxiety and other mental stuff as a excuse to hurt others. I feel like he kinda uses his a selling point
People baby Shane. They act like he’s the innocent little guy who is super naive and constantly used. Do I think Shane is easily persuaded? Yeah. Do I think he had no idea what’s going on? Absolutely not. We need to stop treating these grown adults like kids.
absolutely.. not only the „i’m so poor “ while living in a multimillion dollar MANSION which is just extremely ignorant but also all his friends and giving people like trisha a platform and aaaaaalll the blackface, racist “jokes” etc
Amber Flowers Honestly I disagree. I think Shane IS a manipulator himself, and all of his series where he’s “helping” people or whatever is just a way of him fulfilling this weird narcissistic saviour complex he has. Just my two cents though.
Legally Blonde you put it into words... he’s just not a good person... bet he’ll make a video if this gets a lil bigger and cry about how he’s getting cancelled and that he’s so naiv ;) guilt tripping is his specialty
right? like after she announced she was black, transgender, having DID, he did not say a single thing. absolutely appalling, can't believe people are falling for his fake 'poor' persona. like take your tiny violin and get off the stage. thank you.
Why should he? Friends who do that are disgusting ppl...and cloutchasers. You cut ties or provide your opinion in private....In m opinion whoever cancels their firends publicly is not a trustworthy human coz if you can do that to your friends...what will you do to your enemies?
angelika ur shane bias is peeking through! i'm pretty sure shane knows what's happening and isn't simply being "manipulated" by jeremiah starfish. you have to remember that shane is very opportunistic and a lot smarter than he lets on. plus i don't know about you... but i have a hard time trusting a millionaire who coincidentally associates with the most problematic of youtubers while also pandering to the public by saying "omg i'm so poor."
I personally don't like Shane. I feel like he befriends everyone to make himself seem not problematic, but alot of the people he associates with don't like each other, but he's friends with all of them. He put himself in a situation where no matter what happens he is going to be in middle, never swaying to anyone's side, never truly loyal to any of them. I think he's a manipulator as well, not as bad as Jeffree but they say birds of a feather flock together...
You can be friend with people who aren’t friends. I’m not sure if you’re aware of that lol it isn’t your business to always be in the middle. The problem comes when everyone is demanding him to insert him between every tiny piece of “drama” they can find. I don’t want to be involved in my friends personal dramas or whatever they have going on that has nothing to do with me.
Hope Slason ok i probs shouldn’t be laughing but u really just be coming for his looks as to why people shouldn’t like him 😭😭😭😭😭😭 i guess u just being straight up 💀
@@hopeslason1216 you shouldn't come at people's looks I agree with the op comment but your's is rude and harsh no one should be made fun of on their looks
Just wondering about this comment, how do you know? Have you met him? No hate or anything, just wondering if maybe you had an encounter with him that led you to this conclusion?
I have a feeling Shane hasn't changed at all... He "coincidentally" has multiple shady friends. Shane also tweeted at Paul Joseph Watson (a notorious sexist/transphobe/xenophobe) that he "loves his stuff". After being called out, Shane claimed he had no clue that Paul had that reputation (which is bs... that is LITERALLY the point of Paul's whole channel). Also, it is important to point out that Paul Joseph Watson helped to spread the conspiracy theory that the sandy hook victims were liars (which Shane made a video about but it got taken down from youtube) which led to harassment of the parents whose children were MURDERED. I can't believe he has such a strong fanbase.
@@Medicala Yeah I agree, they didn't change at all. I think they both just figured out better ways to hide it (although Jeffree did an absolute terrible job at it lmao).
don't forget about him doing collabs with Blaire White multiple times 👀 She's not nearly as extreme as PJW but she's been very open about her dislike of the BLM movement. She was on Shane's podcast a few years ago and they talked about being annoyed by the radical left, body positivity etc. I have a feeling Shane is much more conservative than his audience thinks
@@noodlesmetzout Omg! I almost forgot about that-- I was shocked that he invited her. Especially since he says he "doesn't follow politics". But I guess he follows politics when it is anti-left lmao.
@@noodlesmetzout Okay now you're just saying everyone should hate him because of his political ideology. If he's a bad person, sure, but just because someone is conservative doesn't mean they deserve to be cancelled. Conservatives aren't evil and the radical left is actually much worse. They are the white liberals who set buildings on fire causing black people to get blamed for it 🙄 Edit: A lot of people have criticized the organization Black Lives Matter, but that doesn't mean they don't think black lives matter. BLM openly advocates for violence and exclusion, supporting the rioting and looting that has decimated entire business districts and sewing rampant anti-white sentiment. They're also just generally insane - watch Candace Owen's video about their demands which include forcing white people to give up their homes to black people.
Sometimes in this video you would contradict yourself like saying tana isn’t a good person for aligning with J* but saying Shane Dawson is being manipulated into saying mean things about people by J*
this! i actually think tana is far nicer than shane. she seemed far more sympathetic about saying racial slurs in the past. shane’s apologies for the countless problematic stuff her has done are so half assed. tana also interacts with jeffree far less than shane does.
like she said in the video she's biased about Shane bc she's been watching since she was 8. He's given her advice but she still called him out on being more involved than originally thought and condemned his new bff j*. It will take damning proof for a lot of Shane's long time fans to completely hate him. It's why his shit documentaries still get millions of views. I myself watched him since I was 12 and I stopped because the ppl he supported like tana, trisha, jake paul, j*, etc. are all trash and i got super weird vibes on his newer videos
completely true but i think she makes it clear that she’s a bit biased because of their friendliness in their private life. it’s natural she’d want to shy away from criticizing him too harshly :)
I completely agree. As much as I like Angelika’s content, she tends to baby Shane after the terrible things he’s done. He’s never reasonable for himself and all of his mishaps are apparently someone else’s fault. And then she goes hard on Gabbie Hanna for something small and insignificant (not defending the bad things she’s done). She’s spoken about women being held to higher standards in the media and doesn’t realize she’s doing that herself
That’s why Jeffree included Shane in Keemstars interview so much. Everyone was confused on why he was bringing up Shane, but now it makes perfect sense.
@@Kubulek17 he has been for years but always joking that he was poor as long is he's been around and the things he's done he would have accumulated a decent amount of cash that would take normal people years even a lifetime to save up. And his old home was like four million dollars that's not poor
NO NAME yea shane has been rubbing me wrong ever since the tana doc. He always says contradictory things or doesn’t do the research. Like people have successful UA-cam careers and have low maintenance videos. If that’s what he wants to do just do that.
The comment section is filled with everyone talking about how bad Shane is. I think Angelika understands, she mentions that she keeps herself away from Shane. I think, as much as she might want to distance herself from him, she was a fan of him when she was a child so it's almost hard not to. I would understand that. But this video wasn't about Shane Dawson and how problematic he is. It's about Jefree Star... I'm just defending Angelika, not Jefree or Shane. Personally, I think Shane doesn't use his platform for good. I watched a video of his where his classmate killed an uncle or something and Shane talked about how the boy was probably a psychopath/sociopath. It ticked me off. That boy, you could tell he was suffering. Shane used that boy's pain for a video. It was disgusting. The level he went to disgrace that person. He killed one person, a person that clearly wasn't treating him well. Probably abusing him. It's just disgusting. Shane validates Trisha by creating an eyeshadow named after her. He validates Tana for Tanacon. Something she didn't deserve and that poor guy that helped Tana. Personally, I think he was the victim and those FANS. HE VALIDATES JEFFREE STAR. A CEO of a company. A man that will make his minions come after if you 'disgrace' him. It's disgusting he's a 30 something year old man, acting like Regina George. Grow up! I mean, reasons why Nate left him. REASONS! Shane is just as problematic as Jeffree POSSIBLY MORE!
Has no one noticed that literally everyone with a following will sick their minions on anyone who they feel is a threat or who exposes them? Lol like every influencer does this. It is so trashy, but everyone does it.
@@hopeslason1216 in my opinion, it's only trashy influencers. Though I don't really pay attention anyways, other than Angelika and a few other random ppl. And mostly the BookTube community, those people are the least problematic ... well some of them.
Hope Slason like I hate stans they feel that the person they follow can do NO WRONG. Even though that person they are following doesn’t even know they exist and will literally WORSHIP them as if they’ve helped people. These influencers and even celebs with actual talent don’t do ANYTHING for us other than give us entertainment. People need to stop putting them on a high pedestal so that they think they’re better than everyone and bring them back down to EARTH!
@@krystalgleen1662 It's like they completely refuse to believe that these people are human. It's so stupid. These people need to be pushed off their high as a kite pedestal asap. It's getting annoying.
Cam was a token. Jeffree star used him as a "I'm not racist" token. Absolutely disgusting. & The whole thing with Shane & him being friends w all these problematic ppl is problematic I mean ppl don't say "birds of a feather flock together" for nothing smh you'd think a 32 yr old (around that age?) would know better smh him saying absolutely NOTHING abt all this says a lot
@@nailinthefashion we all remember...you know why? Coz if you are 22+ as many of Shane´s fandom, that was your humour too when you were a kid. So if you wanna hate you truly should start hating everyone who lived in the 90´s and before...enjoy life with that attitude.
how can you not support jeffree but still support shane? his whole career is based off of racist stereotypes and he has a long problematic history and is openly friends with and supports jeffree. if you don’t support jeffree you shouldn’t support shane either
The fact that so many people that Jeffree has surrounded himself with have spoken badly about him says everything. It can happen once or twice but if it happens every time then that person is clearly the problem. Everyone else can't be wrong
I don’t think we’re giving Tati enough credit. She’s a grown ass woman. She knew what she was doing. When she said she “made” James Charles, that’s when I knew she had that same mentality as Jeffree Star. Plus, it started with the vitamins; she had her own vendetta against James Charles, the boy half her age who surpassed her in sub count.
RAHHicecream but Tati and James were friends at the time. Idk about you, but if I had a business that I wanted my friends to support, then they go and promote someone else’s business I’d be pretty upset. Not to the extent of making a video that could potentially ruin someone’s career, but upset.
Sarah W. no one saying that she dosent have a right to be upset, the point is is that she went way too far to only have James promote some vitamins. she obviously felt some other type of way about him BEFORE if she did all of that over some vitamins. she literally nearly ruined his life and career
soriya I get that, but it’s also contradicting at the same time. When James promoted SBH and then tried to promote Tati’s product, you’re not gonna buy both of them, only one. I think Tati was more hurt than anything. When you’re hurt it leads you to say things harsher than you normally would. I’m definitely not excusing her behavior, but even as an adult feelings exist. People just act like you can’t learn things as adults and that you just stop learning from your mistakes as soon as you hit a certain age.
Kristina Koren that is true, and I never said that it wasn’t morally wrong. Anger and hurt does make you do stupid things. Even at an older age. She should’ve known better, but we are still human. She might not have known it was gonna get as big as it did, and just wanted to use it as payback for not standing with her brand. Smart move? No not at all.
let's not forget, please, that Shane still sells his blackface t-shirts. he's as bad as Jeffree, just better at hiding it. UPD: I have rechecked and am glad to say they're now gone, however you could see them until the end of 2019 at least.
When I was in high school I was a huge diehard fan of Jeffree but now I’m older and I see how problematic he is. Jeffree is manipulative to his fans and his “acts of kindness” blinds them from the bad things he’s done. He’s never minds his business though he claims he has a company to run. I think his company is basically merch. No one other than his fans talk about it.
okay but if you take away all of his money, success, and influence, you'll get a pathetic middle-aged man who's done terrible things. would you support someone like that?
I used to stan Jeffree. To the point where I used to defend him by saying “well it’s in the past and he apologized”. Now I’ve realized that mindset isn’t healthy and absolutely wrong. I believe the BLM movement and the increasing information on Jeffree has opened my eyes and changed my opinion on him. Thank you Angelika for covering this story. ❤️
Same here, I still see people on Twitter saying he's apologized and to just move on but for the more recent stuff (like the lipstick n*zi) he definitely hasn't even begun to apologise. I just realized all he does is get defensive and block people. And he doesn't get to just say "I've apologised for this one incident now it's all forgiven".
Same. He bulit up this likable persona, which is so hard to turn away from. After this Dahvy (idk how to spell his name, I don't care) thing my brain just gave up on making excuses.
Can I just say, the way you report news and even give your opinion in such a mature and respectable way, especially at your age, is astounding to me. I honestly love how you've organized your information and given your response in such a clean, easy to follow way to understand, without putting bias into it. You literally have better speaking and reporting skills than most major news reporters. Please keep up the good work. We seriously need more honest and respectful people like yourself to share the news. Even if it is just UA-camr news.
ok but can we acknowledge the fact that james was able to go through a HORRIBLE scandal getting publicly cancelled, dëath threats, losing his longest and closest friend in beauty and lose like 4 million subs THEN bounce back and surpass jeffree for the 2nd time. i know james isn’t the perfect person but that is impressive
Girl I appreciate that you recognize your own bias towards Shane but cmon, you know better. He's not being manipulated, he's not under some contractual obligation, he's not any type of victim of Jeffree's. He's just as bad as all the people he surrounds himself with. Jeffree, Trisha, Tana. You can't constantly surround yourself with shitty people and then refuse to speak about their shittiness unless you are a shitty person yourself. Shane is one of the most manipulative people on this platform, his problematic history is just as long as Jeffree's.
Sophia Marion not only did he do blackface but he continued to profit from it after “apologizing” by continuing to sell blackface shirts and keeping the videos up on his channel www.reddit.com/r/ShaneDawson/comments/defil5/why_is_shane_still_selling_a_shanaynay_tshirt_on/
@@222222ania you're like... putting the blinders on yourself. Blackface cannot be explained away as "some dumb thing" even if it was years ago, and he continued to profit from it via merch up until 2019. Also there is no difference between someone doing something racist and being a racist. They go hand in hand.
People treat Shane Dawson like a deity & it’s weird. Nobody ever holds him accountable either. I also think that whole “I’m just a sensitive misunderstood soul” thing is the result of a curated image.
Yeah, but I prefer Jeffree being brought down if I had to choose from the two to focus on. Both problematic, but Jeffree is on a different level. I want people to finally cancel him
Shane never said anything about Tr*sha either, it's not about a contract with J* sis, come on. He doesn't acknowledge his friends intentionally hurting entire communities period.
Also can we stop acting like Shane doesn't know what he's doing. He knows how to start and put on a fake oh my god face. Saying when he doesn't wanna show any TEA etc. But it is drama all over again. Jeffree has his back on this one I feel like Shane has changed for the bad even before doing the conspiracy pallet launch. I used to be JSC fan I no longer am. Shane jokes around saying that he's "poor" but he had a house that in the most expensive part of LA. Like c'mon Shane your not fooling anyone, Shane isn't the nice guy that he portrays in his videos. For James I totally didnt understand on what was going on. Thank gosh he didnt harm himself due to all of the drama that came to him. For Jeffree saying all those LIES without any proof etc. I'm honesly just done with Jeffree and Shane. I think people that are close to Jeffree Star are on his payroll therefore nobody is saying anything atm. But that might change soon.. I felt so bad for Kam too I can't even imagine what he must of felt in the beginning of his career. I'd be scared having someone being so childish for asking if he like James Charles when he helped Kam with career. 🤔😒🙌🏽
Shane and his stans make me SO uncomfortable when they act like he’s a “smol bean” who “must be protected”..... he’s a .. grown ass man.......... stop...
I agree. I wish Shane didn’t get involved with Jeffree. I miss the documentaries about the conspiracy theories and the haunted places they would go too. That’s what I miss, now everything is makeup, and yeah it’s cool to have a hobby but I sometimes feel like he was pressured into it. It feels like a sell-out sometimes... 🤷🏻♀️
Referring to feeling scared of a hit man due to an evil narcissist, I can relate. When I finally left my abusive narc ex, I slept with a weapon under my pillow and extra blocking measures for my front door. The fear someone like that can make you feel is intense and it feels like life or death, seriously.
i understand what you’re saying but do you notice how even when he was doing that, he had a large following and people were WATCHING him do this and it didn’t seem to be a problem back then. things were a lot different when he was doing this, jokes like these were being made in movies and other places online. even though they were racist and i’m not excusing that, you have to remember that things were MUCH different when he was making those videos. and as far as his public image, it really looks like shane has changed, although it is a little worrisome that he’s still friends with Jeffree after everything he’s continuing to do.
Kristin Bond Ah, yes, because nazis were widespread in the 40s, it’s fine that a person used to be a nazi. Not to be rude, but I feel like people are quick to dismiss black issues because “it was acceptable back then!!” To the people it hurt, it was never acceptable; it still hurt, and people simply did it regardless. All it says about those people is that they don’t mind hurting others because it’s deemed socially acceptable by the people who’re unaffected. It’s still hurting others, and it’s still wrong.
Gucci As Always uhm well the nazis you’re referring to actually tortured and murdered around 6 million jews. Which I’m sorry but I’m just gonna have to say that’s a pretty extreme difference from someone who made some offensive videos in the past with blackface. Shane has addressed those videos and has apologized and hasn’t made any videos like that in YEARS. I’m not saying the videos are okay or that it excuses his behavior , but let’s be reasonable here.
@@katitadeb all lives matter takes away from the focus of black lives matter. Yes, everyone’s life does matter, but right now there are black people being murdered for doing absolutely nothing wrong
Preußen all lives matters itself isn’t bad, but people who believe in all lives matter are often ignorant to the discrimination and murder going on in the black community because of racism. All lives cannot truly matter if minorities don’t matter. But people who believe in all lives matter believe in “Some lives matter”
I don’t think it’s a fair comparison, we don’t know what’s in Shane’s heart and I like to think that makes matters, not the content which people post online
You shouldn’t get a free pass no matter what your gender, race, sexuality or religion is. If you are being a bad person and have done terrible things, you shouldn’t have a platform, following or influence.
ah yes, the “token black friend” i think that’s the phrase you meant when you said that jeffree uses these black boys in the beauty industry to defend him whenever people call him racist because they have a certain bias & loyalty towards him, giving jeffree an excuse to say “i’m not racist because these black people are defending me.” just vile, absolutely vile... i’m so glad that cam spoke out, especially during this #blacklivesmatter movement that is so important. ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼
karma's a bitch-, imagine setting up your friends for like 3 months with drama just for money and making hours long of repetitive subjects in a documentary. just imagine.
Idk if constantly doing racist and problematic shit is much less. Paying poor people to hold up a racist sign, saying the n word on a live stream, following racist far right people on Twitter, and pulling a donation to a Jewish charity due to pressure from his Nazi fans. That’s pretty bad
@@jadealborn7130 omg are you serious? the sign thing was a stupid challenge but it doesn't mean he's racist, the n word scandal was 3 years ago, and the donations were pulled bc the charity didn't like him and spoke out against him, he donated to another charity instead. people just like looking for things to hate about him. jefree is on a whole other level
Same, as a pansexual I see him sexual assaulting straight men as painting the community in a bad light and no one listens to me due to him being “a beauty genius” this is ridiculous.
Yandere Queen He himself is not a genius. He has a team who does it for him. He has the money. He’s not a relatable guru who can show us how to do real life makeup. He uses makeup artists at his house most of the time anyway. He’s a fraud.
Yandere Queen I’m pansexual as well, and i’m very confused as to how is he sexually assaulting straight men ..? that comment has no facts to back it. come back when you have something intelligent to say as opposed to some bullshit you pulled out of your ass, thanks.
I've been watching Shane ever since 2014 and he's changed quite a lot since the first Jeffree Star docu series. I hate to say it but he's become really fake in my eyes, acting all hyper emotional and as if he's constantly about to cry and constantly victimizing himself in every situation. He completely let go of himself, around 2015/2016 he started accepting his body and had such a positive energy. Nevertheless I have to disagree, it's not Jeffree's fault that Shane's become this dark twisted person. Shane is a grown man and has a brain, he's not a lost duckling following Jeffree Star because he has no choice. This is his choice and his fault.
When Shane did the docu series of Jeffree I sympathized with him. Now that its over I realize he is just a narcissist who listens to nobody but himself.
It is unbelievable that Shane is always perceived as so kind and warm person while in reality he must be terrible as he is complicit with Jeffree'a and Trisha's behaviour.
I used to love Shane, but i feel like his true colours are showing since he started to be friends with Jeffree. How come he never calls out his problematic friends like Trisha for example 🤷?
@@karolinna880 It's not even that too, I don't get why people say he's naive when he's just,,, not. He's been in this business and been making videos for over 10 years and he's over 30, he knows what he's doing, he can't use that excuse anymore. I can also assure you that Shane know's what he's doing more than some random 14-year-old in like Wisconsin and her friends.
@@magdalliee Oh of course he is, ever since he met Jeffree he's been trying SOOOO hard to act like Jeffree, and you can tell. Watch any Ryland video since he made the first Jeffree series, he's been slowly and slowly getting more emotionally distant and just all around ruder to EVERYONE that's not Tana, Trish, or Jeffree.
Deadass this. I am sorry, Shane Dawson is getting TOO much slack from people with Bias' from our childhood, and I can't blame them for the bias but it's just so blatant now. Shane Dawson giving platforms to literal pedo-supporters and giving them such a surge of an audience is disgusting, lets not forget the fact he made an army of teenagers forgive and support Jake Paul, as well as have them believe Jake DIDNT domestically abuse her and cheat on her - and put the blame on her with insensitive questions. He's foul. He also sold the blackface merch until like 3 years ago? THREE YEARS AGO, AFTER HE APOLOGISED. He STILL made profit off of it. The apple will never fall far from the tree.
Shane ain't innocent either, he's a grown ass man and honestly after I grew up I already started to dislike him even before the jeffree star doc, he's manipulative as well and has so much shit as well.
i think we’re giving shane a bit too much credit lmfao he continuously supports people that are objectively problematic (tana, jake paul, trisha, and jefree) and believe that hes a good person who’s just loyal or whatever instead of him being a full grown man in his 30s who’s talking shit behind closed doors
Could you resume the Manny drama please? I wasn't into makeup gurus nor their drama until very recently and it's already kinda petty but I don't really feel like watching 5 different 25min videos to know 40℅ of the history either ...
It’s SHOCKING how Shane was sad in the documentary watching all this go down. But still knew what was going to happen, allegedly. They do say who you surround yourself with you become , or are, something like that. Jeffrey making fun and mocking James and Tati knowing the truth of what traumatic things he did to them 🤢. Who ever supports a man who’s degrading of woman, people, racist, rude to their fans who made him, and manipulative, tells a lot about you. May James flourish and become a better icon than they could ever be.
This new tea that’s been spilled and how you are explaining and putting out your bias against Jeffree is very eye opening. It’s amazing how someone so powerful can manipulate these things and your video connected him to the bye sister scandal in a whole new light for me. I subscribed to your channel, thanks for the honest opinion.
i feel like you’re not giving yourself enough credit- when i first started watching you you were a fan of jefree’s. a bunch of times (iirc) you said like “you know what you’re getting, he’s so real, i think it’s funny” etc and then YOU had a wake up that he was fucked up you were like “nah this is fucked up let me tell you why.” obviously you weren’t as close to him as people in this video, but other drama channels can definitely do what you did and be good people lmao
Lola tbh I think for Jeffree to be ‘cancelled’ it would just mean his casual audience leaves, there’ll unfortunately always be a few million cult fans willing to support him
Imagine being a billionaire, having millions of fans, and being extremely successful, but still feel the need to ruin someone who’s AGES YOUNGER than yourself for absolutely no reason.. Jeffree Star is disgusting and if you can’t see that, you seriously need to go see a doctor
Thats the reason he's doing it though. James is younger and more successful than Jeffree had been at that age and would know doubt have continued to flourish if Jeffree didn't step in and slander him. Jealousy is really all it is and it's pathetic.
Jeffree was gaslighting once again when he made it seem like James Charles and fans were paranoid and crazy for thinking him and Shane were behind the drama when they actually were
So proud of myself for no longer being a Jeffree Star fan. I was a long-time supporter and buyer of his makeup. If I'm able to see the problem and pull my support, other fans of his can too.
People needs to stop putting what shane does on jeffree like ohh jeffree is so toxic shane doesn't need that like shane himself is toxic and cash cow,shane wasnt forced to join jeffree he chose that cuz money was coming his way.
As someone who recently unstanned and has left the Jeffree Star “cult” this video is crazy. I feel bad for Kam, but I hope he still gets the recognition he deserves.
I love your videos, I love the use of analogy’s. The way you are able to break down what you are trying to portray for people. It is even interesting the way you are able to educate people on characteristic behavior. ❤️ your work
Madison Teal www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/11/us/minneapolis-former-officer-thomas-lane-bail/index.html there’s many more too if you google about it
Is it me that I’m just tired of Jeffry Star lying about everyone claiming he has “proof” and” evidence”. But he doesn’t show it like at all???
Weirdo_On_The_Internet 05 That’s cause he doesn’t have proof.
Agree and he just goes on about drama channels refusing to reach out to him but he blocks them all
Did J* build a cult? is it hate clicks and confusion?
He either avoids bringing this "reciepts" up or he says he cant show them because "his lawyer says so". Ridiculous from a man who posted revenge porn before...
And he puts it off as I’m not gonna expose them because that would be something the OLD jeffree would do 🙄
Jeffree claims to have “tea” and “receipts” on everyone, yet it seems to be everyone has the tea and receipts on HIM!
Karma
I feel like he says these things as a threat to the people who know things about him, like a warning that he'll ruin them if they try to get in his way, even if hes lying he'll scare someone into silence
What's the name of the guy? Tab who?
Where though. Wheres thier proof its words. Anyone can say anything about anyone. Wheres facts
Well, that's what he's known for behind the scenes. He is the dirty career ending cockroach then everyone simping for him.
We need to stop seeing Shane as some vulnerable victim in all this. He’s a grown ass man
This. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Exactly he isn't a victim
Facts
Yesss, it’s not like we was a small creator discovered by Jeffree he had his own big ass platform.
People use the "he has depression" as an excuse to his behavior
I do believe that jeffree did want to ruin James since he is new, young, with good fresh ideas and climbs closer and closer to the throne. Jeffree keeps repeating "I'm rich, I'm #1 man in makeup" when no one is actually questioning it or mentioning it. That makes me believe that Jeffree was threatened by James. that is clear. I mean, he's older and how long can you be relatable "clap back queen"? So he was threatened by James and wanted to ruin his career to keep the crown, at least for a while longer. he is manipulative enough (seen enough of him talking and how he twists the conversation and so on) to be able to ruin someone by manipulating others and seem like a wolf in a sheep's clothing. that's my two cents.
lets make it clear that jeffree “felt” threatened, not just simply ‘threatened’ by James
bc james never outright threatened jeffree
I agree to be honest. I think if Jeffree’s ego didn’t feel threatened he would have actually come to James’ defense when the Tati video came out since Jeffree has always been open about how he’s only ever attracted to straight men and only goes after straight men. The hypocrisy.
Honestly, probably true. Going by that thought: Tati's "BYE SISTER" video (on top of the mass unfollowing that happened to James) gave Jeffree the perfect opportunity to say something against James that's even more damaging. Plenty of people had pointed out that while Tati calling out James like that was problematic, Jeffree made it many times worse by essentially accusing James of being a criminal without any evidence. He might NEVER had said anything against James prior to Tati's video, since James did have his own sizable fanbase, but he saw the teetering scales and jumped on it. Unfortunately for him, James bounced back, in a way that probably restored a lot of people's faith in him as both a UA-camr and a person. It rendered Jeffree's "efforts" moot and also made Jeffree look even pettier...not that his cult-like fans care, but a lot more people do now.
Dei ,also personally I feel like jeffree doesn’t do makeup “tutorials/videos” anymore it’s just reviews and launches. And James has creative ideas and have fun and at the moment he’s just living his life, while jeffree is obsessed with his drama lol
I think people let Shane get away with too much. He's friends with too many problematic people for it to be coincidence. Jeffree, Trisha, and Tana? I get wanting to see the best in people but he needs to realize that with a platform as big as his he can't be promoting people like this over and over again.
Yes someone has to say it. It’s so hard to criticize Shane because you get attacked by his stans I used to be a fan of his but not as much anymore
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I agree but tana? Yeah she has done stuff but unlike everyone else you mentioned she is trying to do better or at least that my opinion
It is incredibly disappointing to see Angelika pushing manipulative defenses of Shane onto her audience in this video. Shane has an incredibly racist past that he has never taken accountability for. Even the times he has addressed it, he was heavily censoring and manipulating the narrative of what he did. Never showing the numerous incidents of blackface or using the n word with the hard R, bringing his Black friend around so that he could justify his racism-the same things that Angelika is rightly criticizing Jeffree for. Shane has a pattern of elevating white youtubers with racist controversies. People need to stop infantilizing Shane, it is just buying into his manipulation.
everyone forgets he has a racist and problematic history too!! he's literally done black face and we just don't talk about that?
Girl. Same would go for Shane and his Blackface shenanigans.
Ikr. I don’t know why she’s low key biased with him
Well, in her defense I watched Shane from the time I was 9 to 17. It wasn't until 4 months ago I was rewatching old videos with him and Shanna and I was really just like "wait a min. TF did he just say". So I lw get it, we get caught up in idolizing people who never even deserved it. I still fw Morgan tho ngl.
Right?! I guess I don’t get it because I’m almost 30 and never had to experience emotional attachments to anyone other than Britney Spears and Charlie the Unicorn. I was a senior in college when I started watching influencers on here, so its easier for me to go ”not feeling this anymore” and unfollow
Nic Armendariz yeah you’re totally right, that does happen. I should have worded that a bit less harshly.
@@nicarmendariz9079 I unfollowed Morgan after her support for Trisha the toxic troll and bully. They all know what they're doing. There's alot of genuine nice and funny people who you can watch and support.
Shane. Is. A. Grown. Ass. Man. Who. Has. Been. On. UA-cam. Forever.
He's not stupid or being manipulated. Its just what he would like his audience believe.
even tho I deeply agree, i think Shane has many self esteem problems, so when he started to get friends like Jeffree or Tana or any kinds of people he didn't think much about it, i guess he sees them now by how they are but if he says anything he would be left without any friends, even if it's shit better alone than in bad company, but it's difficult to make that change, if he doesn't do it he will get serious repercussions on followers and his channel
Right people need to stop excusing him and painting him as some helpless guy
Samething I said yes jeffree is horrible but he isnt responsible for shane dawson's action,shane is cash cow
@@danielamariabelcin8317 lol do you really think he is innocent he is almost friends with most problematic people on UA-cam j*, tana, Trisha and you wonder he has fucking idea about them... sorry he is one of them that's why he has such tight friendship with them.
@@s.r189 I feel like he honestly just sees the good in everyone. That said, I agree and I absolutely despise he supports Trisha. like even if you do have a soft spot for close friends who are controversial, man there is a line you shouldn't cross. He needs to ditch them asap or else people going to continue to loose major respect for this guy.
What really upsets me is if he says stuff like "I have dirt on people" like... With James he said he had evidence of James being a predator (I don't think he does, but for arguments sake, let's say he does) so like...
You have dirt and evidence of people committing horrific crimes and instead of taking this evidence to the police, helping victims, putting predators in jail etc; He'd rather weaponise his blackmail to help further his own career?
Yuck.
Thank you for this! I literally had the same thought but no one has talked about this.
Yes! I’ve been thinking this since the whole drama started. Like jeffree made serious allegations about james and now that everything is over, we’re just gna sweep it under the rug? WTF! No
sounds exactly like epstein..
I used to be a biased of Shane too but then I started to question why he hung out with people like Trisha, Jeffree, tana, Jake Paul, if Shane is all nice and dandy then why is he close with so many bad controversial people, people only hang out with people if they can relate to them or have a similar personality I so I can only assume that Shane is hanging with those type of people because he is exactly like them, and his controversies in the past doesn't make it any better, I just feel like Shane is better at putting up a facade then the rest of his friends, I mean it worked people put him on this pedestal now that if he were to ever do wrong people would call it fake or just forgive him instantly
i feel like the case with Shane is so special and different than other youtubers. he’s like an elder of youtube, he’s been around forever, and he’s a part of a lot of our childhoods/teenagehoods- and that makes it so hard to see and accept the fact that he is friends with these people while he knows full well what they stand for, who they benefit from, etc. that’s the same reason he gets away with it too. i feel like youtube has changed him, and that jefree has him under his spell
S croix he has body issues so of course he’s always talking about his weight and weight in general, there’s nothing wrong with that?? Also, Shanaenae is a character that was CREATED by Martin Lawrence in the early 90’. It was one of the most popular shows of my time, it is literally reminiscent of my childhood...so seeing Shane be that character didn’t put any offense in my head whatsoever. When he did that skit it never occurred to me he was making fun of Black women.
I said this in another comment, but I think the reason Shane associates with these people is that he wants to help change them. I mean look at his series he's done. He truly wants to "fix" these people, but he's not understood you can't "fix" adults like that. they're not good hearted kids who just need some guidance. He's unbearably naive
Amber Flowers he painted these people as victims and was biased throughout the series’. his “documentaries” were more like interviews. he misrepresented and discarded a lot of information that mislead his audience, while most of his series’ didn’t talk about much of anything, just surface stuff that could’ve been said without him. and honestly, do you think that these people would do a “docu-series” that shows them in a bad light? this was all damage control and out of these fucked up situations the people who were the main causes got let off scott free
Honey Moon he wasn’t “talking about weight” though, he was downright body shaming people. even if you deal with body issues what gives you the right to speak and shame someone else’s body? and shane didn’t be the character that martin played. he literally did blackface and degraded black women, calling them monkeys, the n-word, and portraying them as uncivilized people. and even if he was copying martin, he did NOT have to paint himself brown to do it. blackface is not and will NEVER be ok
I hate when people say "they've changed" yet show little to no improvement on changing. His ways of "improvement" is LYING and his brainwashed fanbase eat it up like a baby being fed. Like come on dude..
Veronica Star LITERALLY, people like ‘tHeY sAiD Š0RWie.’ And I’m like okay great they said two words, yes they might mean that but if they don’t make a change it’s just devoid of true remorse.
I'm the 700th like
A bunch of teenage girls coddling grown men it’s awful.
Valentine2000 Ok ignore that last one!! I didn’t read it correctly, but you’re right, it’s weird that they support a guy who still supports a child predator and won’t come out with what he quote on Quote “saw” with D*vi Vanity.
half the time "they've changed" just means "they haven't said a slur in like... a month so 🙄".
i honestly don't think a fan of someone could ever know if that person has genuinely changed... like unless someone else whistleblows, you only see what the person chooses to let you see.
His fans are soooo brainwashed. I sent my friend several links exposing him and all she said was: but he donated so much money
Yeah, I know. Donating money doesn't make you a good person. If you literally stab someone and then feed the homeless, the good doesn't cancel out the bad.
The only way someone can be a fan of him is just by ignoring all the bad things he's done and it's just sad
omg a girl i work with said the same thing i told her i didnt like him because i think hes a bad person and her reply was literally no he donates alot.
I had an friend EXACTLY like that and I replied with “So if I kill your family, it’s all okay if I donate some money? Okay”
I have a friend who really liked him even a month ago and I asked her last week if she likes him. She said yes so I dropped a whole history of stuff that he's done even up to like a month ago. She said "wow that's fucked up"
Then they use the excuse that his makeup is really good. I think his palettes are okay but there’s so many other brands that I personally think are better. His concealers and lipsticks I’ve hardly seen anyone use as staples. I personally think there’s so many better brands to support.
Two things: 1. JS is capable of hiring a hit man on someone. No doubt. / 2. I feel like Shane is the Ellen of UA-cam. Acting one way in front of the camera but being a whole other mean persona behind it.
it really bothers me that Jeffree accused James of all of these horrible things like being a predator etc. when James was at his peak causing James to lose MILLIONS of followers even though Jeffree had no proof. then Jeffree literally has all of these people speaking out against him, proving he's a bad person, and none of his fans bat an eye.
i mean, i’m definitely not a fan anymore
All his fans say is "you're bringing that up again?! He's a changed man!" and I'm like where girl? Don't see any change
+ J* is the one with videos where he is grabbing other men.... (among many other things)
yaaaaaaaas- love the way this is worded cause its SO TRUE
He accused him of being a predator when he knew that he himself was/is one he is disgusting
Up until recently, I was a huge Jeffree fan. I've spent so much money on his makeup, and I love it all so much, but after seeing so much stuff come out against him (I was never huge into UA-cam "drama" or anything like that until semi recently) I was really horrified to see the type of person he truly is. I unfollowed him from every platform, and I will never buy from him again, as much as I love his makeup. I feel so guilty that it took me so long to realize how awful he is, I wish more of his fans would open their eyes to his awfulness.
Jeffree is jealous of James. James is the young,popular gay youtuber that Jeffree wants to be
Not the biggest fan of James either, but James will always be more likeable. Jeffree has always given me bad vibes.
James is soo sweet :)
i dont watch james but he's funny, like he plays minecraft. What a legend
James isn't an angel either, but Jeffree.. oooff!
a Girl james is a angel
No one is buying that Shane is a good person easily manipulated by extremely toxic people he calls friends. Shane is toxic too, period.
mmhmm he's still friends with trisha, tana, and he tried it with making jake paul seem sympathetic and look at where jake is looting stores during black lives matter. He basically made a video of tana crying about throwing a shit convention and dehydrating ppl in the LA summer and wasting people's time who flew there. He's always been toxic.
Duhh the way he acts poor whenever he goes to jeffree's house is so off putting, his fake ass acting is cringe and annoying
Yes ma'am!
Jeffree made Shane at least like 20 million dollars.... it is NOT in Shane’s best interest to publicly speak out against Jeffree lol
Leslie Anne I’m not saying this to be mean or funny, but you seem way too emotionally invested in someone you don’t know and who doesn’t know you. I get that you want Shane to get credit where it’s due, but your comment came across as a pretty big overreaction to what Elle said.
Leslie Anne clam down
Then why didn't shane do it himself? Because he needed that guidance..so although we know Jeffree made lots off Shane..no matter how much you hate him you can't deny Jeffree had a huge hand in the lines success as well..unless one's bias makes one delusional..Jeffree has done some awful stuff like 70 percent of UA-cam but it's fair to say no matter what he does people will always spin it in a negative light. There are other beauty influencers who have literally done the same exact stuff but don't get as much shit as Jeffree does. Half of the beauty channels are out for numer one and talk mad shit about each other and a big chunk of youtube is high school..drama channels included..not saying it is a bad thing..it isn't I suppose but there are always lots of pots calling kettles
And shane still complains hes poor
@@taradactule6052 If I found out another beauty channel supported a predator or told someone they wish they would get shot in the head with a rubber bullet, I would give them the same level of shit.
"Is Jeremiaha Starish a sociopath?" 8 part series by Angelika Oles.
No psychophobia please
I’d watch that
it should be "Jeremiaha Starfish is a sociopath" lol they should loot his mansion set it on fire n throw grains of salt over it like they did back in the day so that empires wouldn't come back up lmaoo
8 different ways to say yes lol
Imagine Tati and James filming a video exposing Jefree Star that would be iconic
James would never. He knows it’s a better business decision to never utter the words jeffree Star again. It’s a better power move for james to just move on and be super successful 💞
Tati would never, after the bye sister video she got trashed and ruined her own reputation she would never do that agian. That's if she returns to UA-cam.
Don't act like Tati is innocent in this, she's a grown woman and she knew what she was doing. I wouldn't be suprised if James doesn't want to have anything to do with her anymore.
i'm waiting for this since i understood that dramaggedon was planned by Jeffrey Star.
Tati planned this shit with Jeffree so no she’s a 30 yo who got offended Over hair vitamin and tried to promote her brand by ruining a 19yo reputation
I will never tire of complimenting these looks, this gives me big cheerleader vibes and I love it
Righttt, that nice cheerleader type of vibe
She doesn’t even go here!!!
YESSSS! I’m living for it
I am LIVING for this bubblegum high school cheerleader look
I think it looks more like a jojo siwa hairstyle
she looks like a cheerleader who's super sweet, has a soft aesthetic, likes plants and hangs out at diners with friends from different circles lol
I only disagree with the stuff about Shane. He's a grown ass man, he knows what he's doing
Yesss
And the fact that jeffree acts like this with him and he stills hangs with him??
Same with making Tati seem more innocent than she was by saying Jeffree orchestrated it. Tati is a grown woman. Maybe older than Jeffree? I love Angelica but Tati sent her her makeup and they talk. She’s not going to go in as hard. But Tati is and was a grown woman making that video instead of responding to texts/calls from James and handling it privately. James would have to have physically hurt her loved ones for a grown woman publicly humiliating a TEEN to be okay. She has a young stepson. How would she feel if another woman did that to him?
Exactly, Shane’s fans are so brainwashed. He’s not some uwu baby who needs to be protected.
Honestly, Shane surrounding himself with MULTIPLE problematic people is concerning. Makes me question him even though I LOVE his channel
If you are around problematic people, it probably mean that you are problematic
I think he’s just better at hiding the bad stuff he’s done oop-
Yeah Jeffree, Tana, Trisha, makes me miss the good old days when he hung out with Drew and Garret
Personally... Shane comes off as kind of fake to me. Some of the things in his recent videos like the way mental health issues were presented and discussed in the Jake Paul series were not handled well. He pushes being an empath when his behaviour can contradict that. He can react very badly to constructive criticism from fans, causing problems for them when doing so publicly on twitter. It's just hard to know what's real with him. His old content is a whole other thing. I don't know.
I mean he is racist and still sells merch w/ the blackface character and makes money of those vids....so...
the fact that ive never once disagreed to what Angelika has said- this girl spits facts
Literally! Everything she says just is so logical and makes so much sense. She’s not like them other “tea channels” who just go on about useless tea and have an opinion that makes nooo sense. But she literally fires facts at us and everything she says is so thought out. That’s honestly why I love her channel sm😂❤️
100%
That's why I love hearing her takes on controversial shit
@@Emma-vi6bw well she wasnt so realistic when she didnt get why js doesnt giving his warehouse for charity to keep food in it or goods. So saying she always true hehe thats funny but yes still a channel worth to watch because no bullshiting going around.
same sis 😌✨
Can we just remember that these are full grown men and women? They are so petty and dramatic about other people being successful. They’re all like high school students. It’s honestly disgusting
It’s crazy that most of these you tubers are in their 30’s and create so much drama
It's not so surprising as many adults don't change so much in the high school pettiness aspect, you see a lot of it plus added viciousness in office politics and even in academia. As these kinds of behaviors don't face much consequence in high-school and they lived off it around that time, i find it weird when ppl say later - oh they'll grow up , it was just a phase. Bullies and assholes just don't become normal, decent folks because they are no longer teenagers and are done with high-school. They never got confronted, faced repercussions or 'corrected' the wrongs. Also society rewards sociopaths.
“Full grown” men and women are not perfect. Just bc you’re an adult doesn’t mean you know better, it doesn’t dismiss you from making mistakes, either. Humans aren’t perfect
@@honeymoon4130 petty mistakes over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over *AND* over and over again is just ridiculous.
@@honeymoon4130 ; um, yeah, it does kinda mean you should know better. at their big ages, they've had more than enough life experience to know right from wrong. their frontal lobes finished developing many years ago and society expects a certain level of maturity and decency once you've entered adulthood.
they are grown. they need to act like it.
I feel like Shane Dawson gets away with too much. He's friends with problematic people (Tana, Trisha, Jeffree), not only that but he promotes them too. I think he has a racist past that came out a few years ago, but no one really talks about it. He's an OG UA-camr and he's very popular and that's great, but its no excuse to just let everything slide.
Exactly
Also the fact that he's a multi millionaire but constantly calls himself "poor" and cries over it. To me that's not being humble - it's ungrateful
@@rc-tm6zv right and I don't feel comfortable with the fact that his fan base full of teenage girls that treat him (a 30yr old man) like a child who needs protecting and he's ok with it.
He did have a racist past, but no one wants to talk about it. He did blackface for skits and publicly said the n word.
AA 2954 what do you mean no one talks about it? Every year on twitter theirs a #shaneisoverparty spam about stuff he already addressed and apologised for
Shane is literally no different and is such a con artist. His act is so fake it physically hurts to watch.
fr and people ignore how he literally did blackface and said the n word as well :/
@@haniya- how old was he, when he did that?
@@Ithinktoomuchformyowngood He was in his 20s
haniya he also used him having black friends to justify said racism
Shay Kent he also continued to profit after his “apology” by selling his blackface shirts and keeping the videos up on his channel. He’s vile www.reddit.com/r/ShaneDawson/comments/defil5/why_is_shane_still_selling_a_shanaynay_tshirt_on/
the fact that shane talks to you lol. He's really the king of emotional manipulation- no wonder none of the drama channels will speak against him because he's in all their dms.
Shane is just as toxic. He’s not the timid sweet person that he presents himself to be. He’s a vicious vile queen that is bitter at those that are younger/ prettier
Literally the Evil Queen from Snow White 😭
@@mrs_chin I- it was joke-
Ms. Chin BK I said what I said and I meant it
Absolutely
Stephanie Eno so was I but I’m not mad at the world babes. I transcend and live my life authentically and positively.
Shane and Jeffery works way too closely together for Shane to play innocent.
the reason shane has shitty friends (Trisha, tana etc.) Is because he is a shitty person
Birds of a feather...
I learned as a person who’s suffered a narcissist abusive relationship I know from therapy my part played. I stayed for the same reasons some of JS supporters did but it doesn’t excuse me either. I struggled with this but once realizing this I was then able to be truly free. JS is dangerous and people like him are everywhere in high places. We have to be aware.
Half the replies on comments like these still use Shane as victim because of his self esteem etc. the cult following is very very real
@@jenayalivad2247 I got out of two friendships because people use anxiety and other mental stuff as a excuse to hurt others. I feel like he kinda uses his a selling point
People baby Shane. They act like he’s the innocent little guy who is super naive and constantly used. Do I think Shane is easily persuaded? Yeah. Do I think he had no idea what’s going on? Absolutely not. We need to stop treating these grown adults like kids.
absolutely.. not only the „i’m so poor “ while living in a multimillion dollar MANSION which is just extremely ignorant but also all his friends and giving people like trisha a platform and aaaaaalll the blackface, racist “jokes” etc
Amber Flowers Honestly I disagree. I think Shane IS a manipulator himself, and all of his series where he’s “helping” people or whatever is just a way of him fulfilling this weird narcissistic saviour complex he has. Just my two cents though.
Legally Blonde you put it into words... he’s just not a good person... bet he’ll make a video if this gets a lil bigger and cry about how he’s getting cancelled and that he’s so naiv ;) guilt tripping is his specialty
Scratch that! Shane's an asshole and disgusting! :)
I mean Shane also never called out Trisha so there's that
right? like after she announced she was black, transgender, having DID, he did not say a single thing. absolutely appalling, can't believe people are falling for his fake 'poor' persona. like take your tiny violin and get off the stage. thank you.
@@leiaskywalker9955 “take your tiny violin and get off the stage” lmaoooo idk why but that made me laugh so hard
Why should he? Friends who do that are disgusting ppl...and cloutchasers. You cut ties or provide your opinion in private....In m opinion whoever cancels their firends publicly is not a trustworthy human coz if you can do that to your friends...what will you do to your enemies?
@@Kunoichi4ever4 But in this situation, it was 'business' and doesnt make sense.
angelika ur shane bias is peeking through!
i'm pretty sure shane knows what's happening and isn't simply being "manipulated" by jeremiah starfish. you have to remember that shane is very opportunistic and a lot smarter than he lets on.
plus i don't know about you... but i have a hard time trusting a millionaire who coincidentally associates with the most problematic of youtubers while also pandering to the public by saying "omg i'm so poor."
Well she did say she has some bias about Shane its not like she tried to hide it..
JEREMIAH STARFISH 😭
They’re friends, she doesn’t have to say shit about him this vid is about jeffo
I personally don't like Shane. I feel like he befriends everyone to make himself seem not problematic, but alot of the people he associates with don't like each other, but he's friends with all of them. He put himself in a situation where no matter what happens he is going to be in middle, never swaying to anyone's side, never truly loyal to any of them. I think he's a manipulator as well, not as bad as Jeffree but they say birds of a feather flock together...
You can be friend with people who aren’t friends. I’m not sure if you’re aware of that lol it isn’t your business to always be in the middle. The problem comes when everyone is demanding him to insert him between every tiny piece of “drama” they can find. I don’t want to be involved in my friends personal dramas or whatever they have going on that has nothing to do with me.
Shane is the biggest fake out there. He does all that empathetic act, while he is most likely the one enjoying the most all the drama.
its so obvious too, i cant believe i only just opened my eyes to it
Shane is also very ugly, so I don’t understand why anyone cares about him?
Hope Slason ok i probs shouldn’t be laughing but u really just be coming for his looks as to why people shouldn’t like him 😭😭😭😭😭😭 i guess u just being straight up 💀
@@hopeslason1216 you shouldn't come at people's looks I agree with the op comment but your's is rude and harsh no one should be made fun of on their looks
Just wondering about this comment, how do you know? Have you met him? No hate or anything, just wondering if maybe you had an encounter with him that led you to this conclusion?
I have a feeling Shane hasn't changed at all... He "coincidentally" has multiple shady friends. Shane also tweeted at Paul Joseph Watson (a notorious sexist/transphobe/xenophobe) that he "loves his stuff". After being called out, Shane claimed he had no clue that Paul had that reputation (which is bs... that is LITERALLY the point of Paul's whole channel). Also, it is important to point out that Paul Joseph Watson helped to spread the conspiracy theory that the sandy hook victims were liars (which Shane made a video about but it got taken down from youtube) which led to harassment of the parents whose children were MURDERED. I can't believe he has such a strong fanbase.
He didn't change at all lol and neither Jefree
@@Medicala Yeah I agree, they didn't change at all. I think they both just figured out better ways to hide it (although Jeffree did an absolute terrible job at it lmao).
don't forget about him doing collabs with Blaire White multiple times 👀 She's not nearly as extreme as PJW but she's been very open about her dislike of the BLM movement. She was on Shane's podcast a few years ago and they talked about being annoyed by the radical left, body positivity etc. I have a feeling Shane is much more conservative than his audience thinks
@@noodlesmetzout Omg! I almost forgot about that-- I was shocked that he invited her. Especially since he says he "doesn't follow politics". But I guess he follows politics when it is anti-left lmao.
@@noodlesmetzout Okay now you're just saying everyone should hate him because of his political ideology. If he's a bad person, sure, but just because someone is conservative doesn't mean they deserve to be cancelled. Conservatives aren't evil and the radical left is actually much worse. They are the white liberals who set buildings on fire causing black people to get blamed for it 🙄
Edit: A lot of people have criticized the organization Black Lives Matter, but that doesn't mean they don't think black lives matter. BLM openly advocates for violence and exclusion, supporting the rioting and looting that has decimated entire business districts and sewing rampant anti-white sentiment. They're also just generally insane - watch Candace Owen's video about their demands which include forcing white people to give up their homes to black people.
Sometimes in this video you would contradict yourself like saying tana isn’t a good person for aligning with J* but saying Shane Dawson is being manipulated into saying mean things about people by J*
this! i actually think tana is far nicer than shane. she seemed far more sympathetic about saying racial slurs in the past. shane’s apologies for the countless problematic stuff her has done are so half assed. tana also interacts with jeffree far less than shane does.
like she said in the video she's biased about Shane bc she's been watching since she was 8. He's given her advice but she still called him out on being more involved than originally thought and condemned his new bff j*. It will take damning proof for a lot of Shane's long time fans to completely hate him. It's why his shit documentaries still get millions of views. I myself watched him since I was 12 and I stopped because the ppl he supported like tana, trisha, jake paul, j*, etc. are all trash and i got super weird vibes on his newer videos
completely true but i think she makes it clear that she’s a bit biased because of their friendliness in their private life. it’s natural she’d want to shy away from criticizing him too harshly :)
I completely agree. As much as I like Angelika’s content, she tends to baby Shane after the terrible things he’s done. He’s never reasonable for himself and all of his mishaps are apparently someone else’s fault. And then she goes hard on Gabbie Hanna for something small and insignificant (not defending the bad things she’s done). She’s spoken about women being held to higher standards in the media and doesn’t realize she’s doing that herself
keke *Angelika
That’s why Jeffree included Shane in Keemstars interview so much. Everyone was confused on why he was bringing up Shane, but now it makes perfect sense.
If Jeffree made comments about Trish and Rich I feel like he has made comments about Shane 100%
And Shane has probably made comments about them all too. He used to be so “i hate rich youtubers” and now he is one
@@Kubulek17 he has been for years but always joking that he was poor as long is he's been around and the things he's done he would have accumulated a decent amount of cash that would take normal people years even a lifetime to save up. And his old home was like four million dollars that's not poor
NO NAME yea shane has been rubbing me wrong ever since the tana doc. He always says contradictory things or doesn’t do the research. Like people have successful UA-cam careers and have low maintenance videos. If that’s what he wants to do just do that.
@@NONAMESALLOWEDHERE exactly he is trying to hard to be relatable at this point it is just cringe
The comment section is filled with everyone talking about how bad Shane is. I think Angelika understands, she mentions that she keeps herself away from Shane. I think, as much as she might want to distance herself from him, she was a fan of him when she was a child so it's almost hard not to. I would understand that. But this video wasn't about Shane Dawson and how problematic he is. It's about Jefree Star...
I'm just defending Angelika, not Jefree or Shane. Personally, I think Shane doesn't use his platform for good. I watched a video of his where his classmate killed an uncle or something and Shane talked about how the boy was probably a psychopath/sociopath. It ticked me off. That boy, you could tell he was suffering. Shane used that boy's pain for a video. It was disgusting. The level he went to disgrace that person. He killed one person, a person that clearly wasn't treating him well. Probably abusing him. It's just disgusting.
Shane validates Trisha by creating an eyeshadow named after her. He validates Tana for Tanacon. Something she didn't deserve and that poor guy that helped Tana. Personally, I think he was the victim and those FANS. HE VALIDATES JEFFREE STAR. A CEO of a company. A man that will make his minions come after if you 'disgrace' him. It's disgusting he's a 30 something year old man, acting like Regina George. Grow up! I mean, reasons why Nate left him. REASONS!
Shane is just as problematic as Jeffree POSSIBLY MORE!
Yessss preach. Finally someone said it and hit all the points. 👏👏
Has no one noticed that literally everyone with a following will sick their minions on anyone who they feel is a threat or who exposes them? Lol like every influencer does this. It is so trashy, but everyone does it.
@@hopeslason1216 in my opinion, it's only trashy influencers. Though I don't really pay attention anyways, other than Angelika and a few other random ppl. And mostly the BookTube community, those people are the least problematic ... well some of them.
Hope Slason like I hate stans they feel that the person they follow can do NO WRONG. Even though that person they are following doesn’t even know they exist and will literally WORSHIP them as if they’ve helped people. These influencers and even celebs with actual talent don’t do ANYTHING for us other than give us entertainment. People need to stop putting them on a high pedestal so that they think they’re better than everyone and bring them back down to EARTH!
@@krystalgleen1662 It's like they completely refuse to believe that these people are human. It's so stupid. These people need to be pushed off their high as a kite pedestal asap. It's getting annoying.
Cam was a token. Jeffree star used him as a "I'm not racist" token. Absolutely disgusting. & The whole thing with Shane & him being friends w all these problematic ppl is problematic I mean ppl don't say "birds of a feather flock together" for nothing smh you'd think a 32 yr old (around that age?)
would know better smh him saying absolutely NOTHING abt all this says a lot
Yup. He was the “my best friend’s neighbor is black so I’m not racist” figure in his life
@@xosecox12 exactly right smh
Honestly Shane Dawson is just as bad as Jeffree.. Shane is just better at hiding his true colors
Fact
yupp
he is so manipulative.
yeah, NOW; he still showed his true colors himself via Shae nae nae etc back in the day, and i will NEVER forget or stop reminding people.
@@nailinthefashion we all remember...you know why? Coz if you are 22+ as many of Shane´s fandom, that was your humour too when you were a kid. So if you wanna hate you truly should start hating everyone who lived in the 90´s and before...enjoy life with that attitude.
how can you not support jeffree but still support shane? his whole career is based off of racist stereotypes and he has a long problematic history and is openly friends with and supports jeffree. if you don’t support jeffree you shouldn’t support shane either
The fact that so many people that Jeffree has surrounded himself with have spoken badly about him says everything. It can happen once or twice but if it happens every time then that person is clearly the problem. Everyone else can't be wrong
I don’t think we’re giving Tati enough credit. She’s a grown ass woman. She knew what she was doing. When she said she “made” James Charles, that’s when I knew she had that same mentality as Jeffree Star. Plus, it started with the vitamins; she had her own vendetta against James Charles, the boy half her age who surpassed her in sub count.
They can’t control james and that bothers them. You can’t tell him what to promote Tati, you don’t run his business. 🤦♀️
RAHHicecream but Tati and James were friends at the time. Idk about you, but if I had a business that I wanted my friends to support, then they go and promote someone else’s business I’d be pretty upset. Not to the extent of making a video that could potentially ruin someone’s career, but upset.
Sarah W. no one saying that she dosent have a right to be upset, the point is is that she went way too far to only have James promote some vitamins. she obviously felt some other type of way about him BEFORE if she did all of that over some vitamins. she literally nearly ruined his life and career
soriya I get that, but it’s also contradicting at the same time. When James promoted SBH and then tried to promote Tati’s product, you’re not gonna buy both of them, only one. I think Tati was more hurt than anything. When you’re hurt it leads you to say things harsher than you normally would. I’m definitely not excusing her behavior, but even as an adult feelings exist. People just act like you can’t learn things as adults and that you just stop learning from your mistakes as soon as you hit a certain age.
Kristina Koren that is true, and I never said that it wasn’t morally wrong. Anger and hurt does make you do stupid things. Even at an older age. She should’ve known better, but we are still human. She might not have known it was gonna get as big as it did, and just wanted to use it as payback for not standing with her brand. Smart move? No not at all.
let's not forget, please, that Shane still sells his blackface t-shirts. he's as bad as Jeffree, just better at hiding it.
UPD: I have rechecked and am glad to say they're now gone, however you could see them until the end of 2019 at least.
Still???
Where?
Shane comes off as a good person, Jeffery doesn’t so that’s why people think Shane can do no wrong
When I was in high school I was a huge diehard fan of Jeffree but now I’m older and I see how problematic he is. Jeffree is manipulative to his fans and his “acts of kindness” blinds them from the bad things he’s done. He’s never minds his business though he claims he has a company to run. I think his company is basically merch. No one other than his fans talk about it.
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I used to love Jeffree when I was 11-12 years old glad I’ve matured and seen his terrible ways
well his company ,killer merch,made other people's merch,and then he has jeffreestar cosmetics
imagine all the tea that nate knows but can’t talk about
I thought about the same thing
Trueeeeee
Damn id pay for that
now that's a scandal bigger than any other in the beauty community
He should come out with a video exposing jefree and Shane
okay but if you take away all of his money, success, and influence, you'll get a pathetic middle-aged man who's done terrible things. would you support someone like that?
Middle age is like mid to late 40s to like early 60s.... not saying you're wrong but the guy is still quite young
@@TheZombifiedFairy oh HAHAHAH im sorry i thought middle aged was like from 30 to 60. im sorry for the misunderstanding lmao.
He’s still a grown ass man
😂😂😂🤣 Damn "middle-aged man"💀
I was a Jeffree fan but I've just realized what a big liar he is. Disgusting.
Awww are you that shallow fo think that you need to he on his PR list or be sent money to like him? Get a life and grow a brain too while you're at it
I used to stan Jeffree. To the point where I used to defend him by saying “well it’s in the past and he apologized”. Now I’ve realized that mindset isn’t healthy and absolutely wrong. I believe the BLM movement and the increasing information on Jeffree has opened my eyes and changed my opinion on him. Thank you Angelika for covering this story. ❤️
we love to see the character development here✨
Same here, I still see people on Twitter saying he's apologized and to just move on but for the more recent stuff (like the lipstick n*zi) he definitely hasn't even begun to apologise.
I just realized all he does is get defensive and block people. And he doesn't get to just say "I've apologised for this one incident now it's all forgiven".
Same. He bulit up this likable persona, which is so hard to turn away from. After this Dahvy (idk how to spell his name, I don't care) thing my brain just gave up on making excuses.
i believe people can grow and change but Jeffree hasn’t changed at all. Still manipulative and rude.
Can I just say, the way you report news and even give your opinion in such a mature and respectable way, especially at your age, is astounding to me. I honestly love how you've organized your information and given your response in such a clean, easy to follow way to understand, without putting bias into it. You literally have better speaking and reporting skills than most major news reporters. Please keep up the good work. We seriously need more honest and respectful people like yourself to share the news. Even if it is just UA-camr news.
shane ain’t a saint.
ok but can we acknowledge the fact that james was able to go through a HORRIBLE scandal getting publicly cancelled, dëath threats, losing his longest and closest friend in beauty and lose like 4 million subs THEN bounce back and surpass jeffree for the 2nd time. i know james isn’t the perfect person but that is impressive
And having people call him a predator for no reason everyday STILL
Girl I appreciate that you recognize your own bias towards Shane but cmon, you know better. He's not being manipulated, he's not under some contractual obligation, he's not any type of victim of Jeffree's. He's just as bad as all the people he surrounds himself with. Jeffree, Trisha, Tana. You can't constantly surround yourself with shitty people and then refuse to speak about their shittiness unless you are a shitty person yourself. Shane is one of the most manipulative people on this platform, his problematic history is just as long as Jeffree's.
how many times does jeffree have to get exposed for him to just... leave
I really wish he would
Ashanti Berry im tired of seeing that tattooed noodle insert himself everywhere
He’s never gonna leave he’s like a leech
Sorry Angela but I can’t help but feel like you keep downplaying Shane’s role in all of this
'Sorry Angela' omg
True
Esther Simons bruhh tell me why I never realized I spell her name wrong OSKSKS 💀😭
Shane is racist himself and people need to acknowledge that
hey! how do we know this?
Sophia Marion not only did he do blackface but he continued to profit from it after “apologizing” by continuing to sell blackface shirts and keeping the videos up on his channel www.reddit.com/r/ShaneDawson/comments/defil5/why_is_shane_still_selling_a_shanaynay_tshirt_on/
Not a huge shane fan but there is a difference between making a dumb racist thing 10+ years ago and being an actual racist
@@222222ania you're like... putting the blinders on yourself. Blackface cannot be explained away as "some dumb thing" even if it was years ago, and he continued to profit from it via merch up until 2019. Also there is no difference between someone doing something racist and being a racist. They go hand in hand.
매디 people can do racist things out of ignorance and not be racist.
People treat Shane Dawson like a deity & it’s weird. Nobody ever holds him accountable either. I also think that whole “I’m just a sensitive misunderstood soul” thing is the result of a curated image.
Yeah, but I prefer Jeffree being brought down if I had to choose from the two to focus on. Both problematic, but Jeffree is on a different level. I want people to finally cancel him
I feel like people use the excuse of "you only hate cause he's a chubby sensitive guy!" Like no his looks have nothing to do with it lmao
Shane never said anything about Tr*sha either, it's not about a contract with J* sis, come on. He doesn't acknowledge his friends intentionally hurting entire communities period.
That’s true. He’s totally “blind” about the people he supports publicly. At this point this whole situation is just a dumpster fire lol
And Mir*NDA S*NGS or whatever her real name is Collin
Trisha is a troll, so there’s literally no reason for anyone else to say anything about her
Also can we stop acting like Shane doesn't know what he's doing. He knows how to start and put on a fake oh my god face. Saying when he doesn't wanna show any TEA etc. But it is drama all over again. Jeffree has his back on this one I feel like Shane has changed for the bad even before doing the conspiracy pallet launch. I used to be JSC fan I no longer am. Shane jokes around saying that he's "poor" but he had a house that in the most expensive part of LA. Like c'mon Shane your not fooling anyone, Shane isn't the nice guy that he portrays in his videos. For James I totally didnt understand on what was going on. Thank gosh he didnt harm himself due to all of the drama that came to him. For Jeffree saying all those LIES without any proof etc. I'm honesly just done with Jeffree and Shane. I think people that are close to Jeffree Star are on his payroll therefore nobody is saying anything atm. But that might change soon.. I felt so bad for Kam too I can't even imagine what he must of felt in the beginning of his career. I'd be scared having someone being so childish for asking if he like James Charles when he helped Kam with career. 🤔😒🙌🏽
Never liked Jeffree to be honest, always thought he was straight up rude but hid it behind being "brutally honest".
It really makes sense why Tati and J* are not friends anymore if this is the case
Her and james really need to expose their asses on her comeback video. I would DIE
Jeffree is the kind of person who would turn on his friends when it suits him, instead of taking responsibility
Shane and his stans make me SO uncomfortable when they act like he’s a “smol bean” who “must be protected”..... he’s a .. grown ass man.......... stop...
angelika: *posts about jeremiah starburst*
me: what did he do now-
RIGHT WE ARE TIRED OF HIM
this is really random but from where is your icon?
Keisha its an anime called tamako market
I used to love Shane but honestly he can’t be trusted at this point
I agree. I wish Shane didn’t get involved with Jeffree. I miss the documentaries about the conspiracy theories and the haunted places they would go too. That’s what I miss, now everything is makeup, and yeah it’s cool to have a hobby but I sometimes feel like he was pressured into it. It feels like a sell-out sometimes... 🤷🏻♀️
Same I'm so happy I woke up and realized how shady he is
I liked his older videos, and I’m happy he’s doing his documentaries or whatever but he should still face the consequences of his past actions
Referring to feeling scared of a hit man due to an evil narcissist, I can relate. When I finally left my abusive narc ex, I slept with a weapon under my pillow and extra blocking measures for my front door. The fear someone like that can make you feel is intense and it feels like life or death, seriously.
Jeffree and Shane are basically the same. Except Shane hides his bad behaviour and Jeffree doesn't because he is protected by his cult following.
Angelika really channelling Jojo Siwa with her hairstyle we stan
😂
It's a lewk.
Let’s not forget Shane’s racist “jokes” he made in the past shouting the n-word in his black face videos. Disgusting. He’s just as bad as jeffree
Lmao they were skits. What do you mean "'jokes?'"
i understand what you’re saying but do you notice how even when he was doing that, he had a large following and people were WATCHING him do this and it didn’t seem to be a problem back then. things were a lot different when he was doing this, jokes like these were being made in movies and other places online. even though they were racist and i’m not excusing that, you have to remember that things were MUCH different when he was making those videos. and as far as his public image, it really looks like shane has changed, although it is a little worrisome that he’s still friends with Jeffree after everything he’s continuing to do.
Kristin Bond Ah, yes, because nazis were widespread in the 40s, it’s fine that a person used to be a nazi. Not to be rude, but I feel like people are quick to dismiss black issues because “it was acceptable back then!!” To the people it hurt, it was never acceptable; it still hurt, and people simply did it regardless. All it says about those people is that they don’t mind hurting others because it’s deemed socially acceptable by the people who’re unaffected. It’s still hurting others, and it’s still wrong.
Gucci As Always uhm well the nazis you’re referring to actually tortured and murdered around 6 million jews. Which I’m sorry but I’m just gonna have to say that’s a pretty extreme difference from someone who made some offensive videos in the past with blackface. Shane has addressed those videos and has apologized and hasn’t made any videos like that in YEARS. I’m not saying the videos are okay or that it excuses his behavior , but let’s be reasonable here.
Shane Dawson is the “all lives matter” of youtubers. He’s never openly vicious but behind the scenes he participates in and allows a lot of scumminess
And what's wrong with "all lives matters"?
No, seriously, I don't know :c
@@katitadeb all lives matter takes away from the focus of black lives matter. Yes, everyone’s life does matter, but right now there are black people being murdered for doing absolutely nothing wrong
Preußen all lives matters itself isn’t bad, but people who believe in all lives matter are often ignorant to the discrimination and murder going on in the black community because of racism. All lives cannot truly matter if minorities don’t matter. But people who believe in all lives matter believe in “Some lives matter”
I don’t think it’s a fair comparison, we don’t know what’s in Shane’s heart and I like to think that makes matters, not the content which people post online
How do you know that he participates in the drama if I may ask?
You shouldn’t get a free pass no matter what your gender, race, sexuality or religion is. If you are being a bad person and have done terrible things, you shouldn’t have a platform, following or influence.
🙌🏼🙌🏼
ah yes, the “token black friend” i think that’s the phrase you meant when you said that jeffree uses these black boys in the beauty industry to defend him whenever people call him racist because they have a certain bias & loyalty towards him, giving jeffree an excuse to say “i’m not racist because these black people are defending me.”
just vile, absolutely vile... i’m so glad that cam spoke out, especially during this #blacklivesmatter movement that is so important. ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼
I honestly appreciate that Jeremiah Starfish is finally getting called out for his BS. I’m not one for cancel culture, but I appreciate the karma
agreed but he isnt being called out as he should tbh
I'm so tired of Jonathan Starkit and his cult
karma's a bitch-, imagine setting up your friends for like 3 months with drama just for money and making hours long of repetitive subjects in a documentary. just imagine.
Jeffree reminds me of the girl on tiktok who said the n-word, then said that she wasn’t being racist because she has a black friend
Jeffree reminds me of the girl who made a racist tiktok with her bf, then said her bf forced his racism on her
Jeffree reminds me of the girl who said the n-word on tiktok and said she thought the word was snickers
@@alvitadsouza9834 She what😐, actually I believe that never mind:)
A few years ago, the media almost destroyed PewDiePie for much less. But Jeffree...
Ehh. Jeffree and Pewdiepie are in the same boat imo. But Jeffree doesn’t get questioned as much.
Idk if constantly doing racist and problematic shit is much less. Paying poor people to hold up a racist sign, saying the n word on a live stream, following racist far right people on Twitter, and pulling a donation to a Jewish charity due to pressure from his Nazi fans. That’s pretty bad
@@jadealborn7130 omg are you serious? the sign thing was a stupid challenge but it doesn't mean he's racist, the n word scandal was 3 years ago, and the donations were pulled bc the charity didn't like him and spoke out against him, he donated to another charity instead. people just like looking for things to hate about him. jefree is on a whole other level
Dorahoe I’d recommend checking out
hbomberguys video on him- he explains this stuff better then I can.
ua-cam.com/video/GjNILjFters/v-deo.html
I'm forever shock to why Jeffree Star is still a thing.
he’s literally RACIST and people still trynna defend him
Same, as a pansexual I see him sexual assaulting straight men as painting the community in a bad light and no one listens to me due to him being “a beauty genius” this is ridiculous.
Yandere Queen He himself is not a genius. He has a team who does it for him. He has the money. He’s not a relatable guru who can show us how to do real life makeup. He uses makeup artists at his house most of the time anyway. He’s a fraud.
Yandere Queen I’m pansexual as well, and i’m very confused as to how is he sexually assaulting straight men ..? that comment has no facts to back it. come back when you have something intelligent to say as opposed to some bullshit you pulled out of your ass, thanks.
I can’t imagine liking someone SO MUCH to the point where I overlook or defend the terrible things they’ve done. They’re literally brainwashed.
keke have you heard of trump supporters?
Aminatu Warrior Spirit they’re a good example too
I've been watching Shane ever since 2014 and he's changed quite a lot since the first Jeffree Star docu series. I hate to say it but he's become really fake in my eyes, acting all hyper emotional and as if he's constantly about to cry and constantly victimizing himself in every situation. He completely let go of himself, around 2015/2016 he started accepting his body and had such a positive energy. Nevertheless I have to disagree, it's not Jeffree's fault that Shane's become this dark twisted person. Shane is a grown man and has a brain, he's not a lost duckling following Jeffree Star because he has no choice. This is his choice and his fault.
When Shane did the docu series of Jeffree I sympathized with him. Now that its over I realize he is just a narcissist who listens to nobody but himself.
Are we surprised? no.
Are we surprised Shane "The Master Emotional Manipulator" Dawson is involved? oh helllll no.
It is unbelievable that Shane is always perceived as so kind and warm person while in reality he must be terrible as he is complicit with Jeffree'a and Trisha's behaviour.
I used to love Shane, but i feel like his true colours are showing since he started to be friends with Jeffree. How come he never calls out his problematic friends like Trisha for example 🤷?
@@karolinna880 It's not even that too, I don't get why people say he's naive when he's just,,, not. He's been in this business and been making videos for over 10 years and he's over 30, he knows what he's doing, he can't use that excuse anymore. I can also assure you that Shane know's what he's doing more than some random 14-year-old in like Wisconsin and her friends.
@@magdalliee Oh of course he is, ever since he met Jeffree he's been trying SOOOO hard to act like Jeffree, and you can tell. Watch any Ryland video since he made the first Jeffree series, he's been slowly and slowly getting more emotionally distant and just all around ruder to EVERYONE that's not Tana, Trish, or Jeffree.
Deadass this. I am sorry, Shane Dawson is getting TOO much slack from people with Bias' from our childhood, and I can't blame them for the bias but it's just so blatant now.
Shane Dawson giving platforms to literal pedo-supporters and giving them such a surge of an audience is disgusting, lets not forget the fact he made an army of teenagers forgive and support Jake Paul, as well as have them believe Jake DIDNT domestically abuse her and cheat on her - and put the blame on her with insensitive questions. He's foul.
He also sold the blackface merch until like 3 years ago? THREE YEARS AGO, AFTER HE APOLOGISED. He STILL made profit off of it.
The apple will never fall far from the tree.
Shane ain't innocent either, he's a grown ass man and honestly after I grew up I already started to dislike him even before the jeffree star doc, he's manipulative as well and has so much shit as well.
are we gonna ignore the fact that james charles follows angelika on twitter? iconic
i think we’re giving shane a bit too much credit lmfao he continuously supports people that are objectively problematic (tana, jake paul, trisha, and jefree) and believe that hes a good person who’s just loyal or whatever instead of him being a full grown man in his 30s who’s talking shit behind closed doors
how do i like this more than once?
manny was wrongfully cancelled. jeffree is a terrible friend n person
I’m honestly starting to think that Manny wasn’t really the problem in their friendship
Could you resume the Manny drama please? I wasn't into makeup gurus nor their drama until very recently and it's already kinda petty but I don't really feel like watching 5 different 25min videos to know 40℅ of the history either ...
I had a friend like Jeffree Star for a few years. He ruined me. He was a manipulator, a user, and an emotional abuser. Watch out for people like that.
Yeah me too, it lasted only for like 5 months but I'm still scared to tell anyone about this person and who she really is...
My mom has always warned me about people like that, sadly they're very real.
Same here, went on for 5 years.
It’s SHOCKING how Shane was sad in the documentary watching all this go down. But still knew what was going to happen, allegedly. They do say who you surround yourself with you become , or are, something like that. Jeffrey making fun and mocking James and Tati knowing the truth of what traumatic things he did to them 🤢. Who ever supports a man who’s degrading of woman, people, racist, rude to their fans who made him, and manipulative, tells a lot about you. May James flourish and become a better icon than they could ever be.
This new tea that’s been spilled and how you are explaining and putting out your bias against Jeffree is very eye opening. It’s amazing how someone so powerful can manipulate these things and your video connected him to the bye sister scandal in a whole new light for me. I subscribed to your channel, thanks for the honest opinion.
i feel like you’re not giving yourself enough credit- when i first started watching you you were a fan of jefree’s. a bunch of times (iirc) you said like “you know what you’re getting, he’s so real, i think it’s funny” etc and then YOU had a wake up that he was fucked up you were like “nah this is fucked up let me tell you why.” obviously you weren’t as close to him as people in this video, but other drama channels can definitely do what you did and be good people lmao
Honestly when is Jeffree ever NOT in a scandal can we please cancel him already
he’d be cancelled if it wasn’t for his cult fans
Lola tbh I think for Jeffree to be ‘cancelled’ it would just mean his casual audience leaves, there’ll unfortunately always be a few million cult fans willing to support him
I think he causes drama so instead of focusing on him people will flock to the drama and loose focus
Sadly alot of his fans are brainwashed. I remember disagreeing about something that jeffree did and i got death threats.🧚♂️💜💅
You do know that canceling doest have to be a collective thing. You can cancel him for yourself and people may later follow.
Shane's and Jeffrey's friendship is more of a business, they both benefit from it.
Imagine being a billionaire, having millions of fans, and being extremely successful, but still feel the need to ruin someone who’s AGES YOUNGER than yourself for absolutely no reason..
Jeffree Star is disgusting and if you can’t see that, you seriously need to go see a doctor
Thats the reason he's doing it though. James is younger and more successful than Jeffree had been at that age and would know doubt have continued to flourish if Jeffree didn't step in and slander him. Jealousy is really all it is and it's pathetic.
He's not a billionaire. Just saying.
Jeffree was gaslighting once again when he made it seem like James Charles and fans were paranoid and crazy for thinking him and Shane were behind the drama when they actually were
Don’t defend Shane when he was cussing out a teenager with no provocation according to kam.
So proud of myself for no longer being a Jeffree Star fan. I was a long-time supporter and buyer of his makeup. If I'm able to see the problem and pull my support, other fans of his can too.
People needs to stop putting what shane does on jeffree like ohh jeffree is so toxic shane doesn't need that like shane himself is toxic and cash cow,shane wasnt forced to join jeffree he chose that cuz money was coming his way.
I feel like you summed up the whole problem quite well^^
@@poccripeardew4750 thanks
Ttt
As someone who recently unstanned and has left the Jeffree Star “cult” this video is crazy. I feel bad for Kam, but I hope he still gets the recognition he deserves.
jeffree is so petty, miserable, & spiteful. how can anyone proudly stan him?
they only stan him because of him "spilling" tea and fitting/forcing himself in shit he shouldn't be in
I have so much respect for you for publicly saying that you have a personal relationship with Shane yet still calling him out when it’s necessary!
I love your videos, I love the use of analogy’s. The way you are able to break down what you are trying to portray for people. It is even interesting the way you are able to educate people on characteristic behavior. ❤️ your work
Am I the only person who is disgusted that George Floyd’s killer is out on bail? Because, his $1M bail had been donated to him!
He was? Can you send me the news article please, so I can read it?
Yes I’m so mad
I am absolutely outraged and disgusted
Madison Teal www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/11/us/minneapolis-former-officer-thomas-lane-bail/index.html there’s many more too if you google about it
it's more than disgusting