@@waffleosaurus1 well it’s unlikely for it to be cut, three dragons, one of them takes part in the war, one of fights sunfyre and the other is a dragon that has the chances of being cut equal to ever ant dying immediately
For Aegons children in first episode of season 2 you see the dragon eggs under their beds before Blood and Cheese. I think we’ll see sheep stealer in episode 6 I can’t wait.
Yeah apparently daemons daughter rhaena will now claim it which makes no sense because in the books her dragon Morning was hatched towards end of the show
They aren’t talking practicality. They are talking about story beats in the show. Which means a finite amount of time. Only 8 episodes. So there isn’t time to introduce brand new dragons to the TV audience. Could they stick them in these 70 minute filler episodes easily, yes. Will they? No…
Have you done a video on Drogon’s size compared to HOTD (show) dragon sizes? He’s quite big, I think he’s around the same size, if not bigger than Meleys.
condal mentioned in s1 that the wild dragons designs were his favorite. i expect to see atleast 2 of them. sheepstealer and one of the others. perhaps both!
Dreamfyre and Tyraxes right ? Also Morghul might still hatch in the show since Jahaera is still alive and has the egg. But if it doesn't hatch, I'm not sure 2 dragons will be "enough" for this scene, so they might also kill Syrax in the dragonpit as well
@@LABLR009 I meant killed along with the others or by the collapsing dome. In the books she arrives after they’re already dead and the mob is leaving right ? The mob slaughtering dragons wouldn’t be as impactful is it’s « just » Dreamfyre and Tyraxes, so they might have Syrax in the dragonpit as well. But then they’d need to change the way Joffrey dies idk
@@Americarnaud Syrax dies after the collapse of the dragonpit. I don't understand why you think they would cut Shrykos and Moghul out though.. they haven't been mentioned but they also are never ridden by Jaehaera and Jaehaerys. I see them doing a brief mention/introduction before their deaths. They really aren't that important tbh, and they also have no reason to change the way Joffrey dies.
@@LABLR009 Because during blood and cheese we see the dragon eggs next to the children’s beds. So Shrykos wouldn’t hatch now that Jahaerys is dead right ? Morghul can still hatch but I don’t think they’ll waste time on that, we hardly ever see Jahaera
@@lordvader5158but stormcloud dies wayyyyyyyyy before that in the books did you mean tyraxes? ( joffreys dragon) and syrax stays by the red keep on aegons high hill
@@charlesgreen7209 nah I think they are gonna change it so Stormcloud doesn’t die in the Gullet as judging from the show he’s far too small to ride and Aegon the younger looks way too young to be riding dragons
No, there are several: Syrax, Dreamfyre, Tyraxes, Stormcloud, Shrykos and Morghul. If you take the last two, there are still 4 dragons at the dragonpit.
I have thought lately that Morning might be the dragon of Viserys. I know in the books his egg never hatches but I think it will hatch and will have the dragon Morning since it's needed so we see the dragons diminish in size. Maybe even Stormcloud might survive, who knows. We need one dragon at least to survive the Dance so that they all become weaker and smaller later on until extinction.
@@mayacarraway8953Maelor does not exsist nor does nettles. More egregiously alicent is same age as rhenerya, so they will say the history is just wrong.😂
@@grimmywizard Also Dumb & Dumber wanted to rush to the action, they shouldn't even be as big as they are just look at the difference between S5 Drogon and S6 Drogon.. sh*ts too fast even with his accelerated growth
Such a dumb comment... We are only in season 2 so far 😂, they are harvesting moneh for us to see some crazy dragon stuff in s3 and s4. Cgi/vfx ain't cheap son, they need to pay the bills for producing it for the audience, if you wan't to see more dragon screentime sure go ahead and offer your expertise for 0$ cost
I really want them to stick with the plot & have nettles in the story. Plus i want grey ghost, i mean it's cooler to see sunfyre killing a bigger wild dragon bigger than it's size while be in injured state. I mean there is so many less ocassions in the story when a small dragon killed a bigger one without getting killed himself. Also all sunfyre storyline became normal than epic as in the books he killed almost two dragons directly & became a part of defeating maelys. Now we see on the show it's an one sided battle & if there is no grey ghost, then he ends up killing only moondancer which kinda sad for it's story.
Since when grey ghost is stated to be bigger than Sunfyre? . Grey ghost size was never mentioned , it only mentioned it's personality "Grey ghost is a Shy dragon that avoid human and like to eat fish" . The wild dragon that bigger than Sunfyre are Sheepstealer and Cannibal . Grey ghost probably the size of arrax or Daenerys dragon in season 3 when they hunt fish at sea
In fact Sunfyre having so much trouble fighting moondancer that are barely rideable size he died after the fight so i doubt Sunfyre could fight a dragon larger than him especially in injured conditions
@@snowmonet3670 No grey ghost supposed to be bigger than sunfyre because it’s little bit older than sunfyre by age & because it’s a wild dragon who lived in open likely to grow faster than normal. The thing about fighting with moondancer is that even at the time of fight, sunfyre was not fully recovered but still able to kill moondancer is a good feat . I’m not able to remember correctly but at the time of fighting sunfyre can’t even fly.
I think the only ones that will be cut will be Shrykos, Morghul and maybe Morning too depending on if they kill off Sheepstealer. I think they will replace the 2 that die in the storming of the dragon pit with Syrax and Stormcloud
Spoiler but Joffrey literally tells Margaery in Game of Thrones that Rhaenyra's brother (Aegon II) has his dragon (Sunfyre) eat her. It's well-known to anyone who has watched GoT. So Sunfyre will be around for a while.
Well after the finale youre stil sure about it ? I think they gona vhange that. Idk how but we all know history can be manjpulated so what Jofrey said might not be true at least in the show
Looks like the are cutting the character of Nettles ! Which is a bad idea in my opinion , because I know Nettles is a favorite among many fans ! Not me ! But I know a lot of people love Nettles ! Looks like Rhaena character is gonna be merged with that of nettles and it will be her that most likely claims sheepstealer ! But who knows ? At this point there have been so many book changes I’m not sure of all the choices they are gonna make
@@jasonck9635tbh I understand them cutting nettles other then having a reported affair/ maybe being his daughter she does nothing too affect the story. At least with rhaena us book readers get a suprise and maybe a new action scene
@@ant_boy_spice4400 yea I also understand their reasoning for doing it ! Maybe to give her character more to do ! I’m fine with this change , but I know a lot of Nettles fan are very dissatisfied ! But that’s not me ! I mean it makes sense what they are doing with Rhaena ! And could make her a favorite among many show viewers as well !
I'm sick of watching that old hag Vhagar. My biggest wish is to see wild dragons, Vermithor and maybe Balerion in flash backs like when Daemon has visions in Harrenhall.
@@grimmywizard Oh sure but it’s still young Vhagar compared to House of the dragon. I mean it takes place 150 years before. I didn’t mean young as in baby dragon, young as in younger than we know her now
hbo makes it seem like animating a dragon with pre set templates etc already established costs a million dollars per frame. don’t understand way more dragons screen time and overall action in the first show.
They cut 3 dragons. It makes sense that the 3 hatchlings were the ones cut. Curious how the storming will go down if there’s only 2 dragons there instead
i hate that hugh hammer got that godly dragon. if mysadria or daemon or even sons of alicent got that, it would have been great honour, but this typical nobody came in and washed away all the glory of wise king
To be fair, adapting a story with that many characters to screen, you'll have to cut some of them. So it makes sense to merge Nettles and Rhaena. Give Rhaena more of a role in the story instead of adding another character is a smart choice. But I don't think Sheepstealer is gonna be the one to be deleted. It'll probably be Morning
Where are the 17+ dragons they said we would see during the series. They realise its to expensive? So far its all the same dragons from season 1 besides sunfyre. Add more scenes talking around tables about all the cool stuff we only hear them talk about happening, save money. Lol
Vhagar is by no means the center of the series and that's all on writers and directors and not vhagar atall. Things Are happening in HOTD for the sake of happening and makes no sense atall. Mind you I've never read the books but somethings are just stupid in season 2. And vhagar design did dirty to he dragon and idk how they'd recover from it for Aegon conquest series. Also noone fucking fears vhagar as every other person is casually talking about flying to it to kill it.
The 3 wild dragons were mentioned by Daemon, so there's a chance the 3 will make an appearance. The twins had their dragon eggs under their crib. Shrykos is out but Morghul is still a far possibility
@@Lesistius we know he’s gonna bond this is just a good twist if they decide to give rhaena sheepstealer plus if he is able to earn their trust it’s superstitious trait for Targaryen descendants to be given an egg to help them especially if they are ill like jaehereys when he was little and sick
To be fair I'm not sure they'll waste time on dragons that don't take part in the actual fighting. Cannibal and Grey ghost kind of serve no purpose to the story.
@@Americarnaud Grey Ghost and Sunfyre interact. I’m sure they can extrapolate some sort of metaphor from a wounded proud dragon killing another dragon (what House Targaryen became during the Dance) . Though I assume they would probably just show its corpse, so the showdown between Sunfyre and Moondancer be more special.
I haven't read the books, but you would think a dragon that likes feasting on his kind would take advantage of a large amount of poor Meleys carcass and the near dead Sunfyre, or maybe too much humans around, or the stench of dead humans.
They should at least give grey ghost a cameo, I want to see his design, they work cut cannibal, he’s one of if not the most anticipated dragon in the show aside from vermithor and silverwing
Canibal might make an appearance due to fan service and might be why many try to claim him and fail. He might be seen killing Grey Ghost or Seasmoke too. Grey Ghost, I think he might not be shown or might be seen eaten by Cannibal if ever shown.
In Season 1 Episode 10 three feral dragons were referred to, so Grey Ghost must be somewhere in the show, maybe to introduce Cannibal
Sunfyre will kill grey ghost
Sunfyre kills grey ghost near the end of the dance so he should appear, and if sheepstealer appears cannibal should since they had an interaction
@@RandomMackem0069_Officialall of that can easily be cut
@@waffleosaurus1 well it’s unlikely for it to be cut, three dragons, one of them takes part in the war, one of fights sunfyre and the other is a dragon that has the chances of being cut equal to ever ant dying immediately
@@waffleosaurus1no lol silver Denys was specifically cast. His big moment is with the wild dragons
For Aegons children in first episode of season 2 you see the dragon eggs under their beds before Blood and Cheese.
I think we’ll see sheep stealer in episode 6 I can’t wait.
I think they cut the part of nettles and sheepstealer in the show
Yeah apparently daemons daughter rhaena will now claim it which makes no sense because in the books her dragon Morning was hatched towards end of the show
@@lawrcabizares679no, sheepsteeler is mentioned
@@debutriah2854 " mentioned " only, so the question is WHO'S GONNA CLAIM Sheepstealer?
@@lawrcabizares679 most likely Rhaena, she’s shown interest in wanting to find Sheepstealer and she’s in the Vale soooo
I Hope that we Will see the Cannibal
You could easily do Morghul and Shrykos just chilling in the Dragonpit. Even if it's not seen till the Storming. That's easy.
They aren’t talking practicality. They are talking about story beats in the show. Which means a finite amount of time. Only 8 episodes. So there isn’t time to introduce brand new dragons to the TV audience. Could they stick them in these 70 minute filler episodes easily, yes. Will they? No…
Have you done a video on Drogon’s size compared to HOTD (show) dragon sizes? He’s quite big, I think he’s around the same size, if not bigger than Meleys.
condal mentioned in s1 that the wild dragons designs were his favorite. i expect to see atleast 2 of them. sheepstealer and one of the others. perhaps both!
There are egg incubators below helaenas children’s beds which would suggest there were at least eggs
1:35 in the books, Jaehaerys died in 129 AC, just like Rhaenys and Meleys. Anyway, great job!
What about the storming of the dragon pit shrykos and moghul were there along with 2 other dragons
Dreamfyre and Tyraxes right ? Also Morghul might still hatch in the show since Jahaera is still alive and has the egg. But if it doesn't hatch, I'm not sure 2 dragons will be "enough" for this scene, so they might also kill Syrax in the dragonpit as well
@@Americarnaud Syrax dies in the Dragon Pit in the books, so yeah.
@@LABLR009 I meant killed along with the others or by the collapsing dome. In the books she arrives after they’re already dead and the mob is leaving right ? The mob slaughtering dragons wouldn’t be as impactful is it’s « just » Dreamfyre and Tyraxes, so they might have Syrax in the dragonpit as well. But then they’d need to change the way Joffrey dies idk
@@Americarnaud Syrax dies after the collapse of the dragonpit. I don't understand why you think they would cut Shrykos and Moghul out though.. they haven't been mentioned but they also are never ridden by Jaehaera and Jaehaerys. I see them doing a brief mention/introduction before their deaths. They really aren't that important tbh, and they also have no reason to change the way Joffrey dies.
@@LABLR009 Because during blood and cheese we see the dragon eggs next to the children’s beds. So Shrykos wouldn’t hatch now that Jahaerys is dead right ? Morghul can still hatch but I don’t think they’ll waste time on that, we hardly ever see Jahaera
This makes the potential storming of the dragon pit be anti-climactic with only two dragons in the pit
They gonna add Syrax and Stormcloud
@@lordvader5158but stormcloud dies wayyyyyyyyy before that in the books did you mean tyraxes? ( joffreys dragon) and syrax stays by the red keep on aegons high hill
@@charlesgreen7209 nah I think they are gonna change it so Stormcloud doesn’t die in the Gullet as judging from the show he’s far too small to ride and Aegon the younger looks way too young to be riding dragons
@@lordvader5158to be fair the war lasts four years and they could technically rearrange scenes so that stormcloud and aegon are older
No, there are several: Syrax, Dreamfyre, Tyraxes, Stormcloud, Shrykos and Morghul. If you take the last two, there are still 4 dragons at the dragonpit.
I have thought lately that Morning might be the dragon of Viserys. I know in the books his egg never hatches but I think it will hatch and will have the dragon Morning since it's needed so we see the dragons diminish in size. Maybe even Stormcloud might survive, who knows. We need one dragon at least to survive the Dance so that they all become weaker and smaller later on until extinction.
Oh I guess I could see that though I don't know how they would explain why history would record that Morning was Rhaena's dragon
@@mayacarraway8953Maelor does not exsist nor does nettles.
More egregiously alicent is same age as rhenerya, so they will say the history is just wrong.😂
GoT dragons got more screentime than HOTD dragons
Got had 8 seasons.
@@grimmywizard Also Dumb & Dumber wanted to rush to the action, they shouldn't even be as big as they are just look at the difference between S5 Drogon and S6 Drogon.. sh*ts too fast even with his accelerated growth
@@DanteVerde-pt9zc they just wanted to get fanbase. In reality Drogon should've been the size of Arrax
Such a dumb comment... We are only in season 2 so far 😂, they are harvesting moneh for us to see some crazy dragon stuff in s3 and s4. Cgi/vfx ain't cheap son, they need to pay the bills for producing it for the audience, if you wan't to see more dragon screentime sure go ahead and offer your expertise for 0$ cost
I really want them to stick with the plot & have nettles in the story. Plus i want grey ghost, i mean it's cooler to see sunfyre killing a bigger wild dragon bigger than it's size while be in injured state. I mean there is so many less ocassions in the story when a small dragon killed a bigger one without getting killed himself. Also all sunfyre storyline became normal than epic as in the books he killed almost two dragons directly & became a part of defeating maelys. Now we see on the show it's an one sided battle & if there is no grey ghost, then he ends up killing only moondancer which kinda sad for it's story.
Since when grey ghost is stated to be bigger than Sunfyre? . Grey ghost size was never mentioned , it only mentioned it's personality "Grey ghost is a Shy dragon that avoid human and like to eat fish" . The wild dragon that bigger than Sunfyre are Sheepstealer and Cannibal . Grey ghost probably the size of arrax or Daenerys dragon in season 3 when they hunt fish at sea
In fact Sunfyre having so much trouble fighting moondancer that are barely rideable size he died after the fight so i doubt Sunfyre could fight a dragon larger than him especially in injured conditions
Sorry for writing long comments i was bored 🤣
@@snowmonet3670 No grey ghost supposed to be bigger than sunfyre because it’s little bit older than sunfyre by age & because it’s a wild dragon who lived in open likely to grow faster than normal. The thing about fighting with moondancer is that even at the time of fight, sunfyre was not fully recovered but still able to kill moondancer is a good feat . I’m not able to remember correctly but at the time of fighting sunfyre can’t even fly.
But it's illogical because he's a teen thrown against bigger vets. He's never even fought
I think the only ones that will be cut will be Shrykos, Morghul and maybe Morning too depending on if they kill off Sheepstealer. I think they will replace the 2 that die in the storming of the dragon pit with Syrax and Stormcloud
There is no way sunfyre is day he is so essential for the series
Spoiler but Joffrey literally tells Margaery in Game of Thrones that Rhaenyra's brother (Aegon II) has his dragon (Sunfyre) eat her. It's well-known to anyone who has watched GoT. So Sunfyre will be around for a while.
She survived and can some what fly again. Then yes she lights up the queen at dragonb stone
Well after the finale youre stil sure about it ? I think they gona vhange that. Idk how but we all know history can be manjpulated so what Jofrey said might not be true at least in the show
They will simply say it's false history.
They will either have rhenerya survive or give her an epic end in battle.
While laughing from above looking at her grave...
What game was that that he used for the dragon flying clip?
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Unless they make nettles claim greyghost
Looks like the are cutting the character of Nettles ! Which is a bad idea in my opinion , because I know Nettles is a favorite among many fans ! Not me ! But I know a lot of people love Nettles ! Looks like Rhaena character is gonna be merged with that of nettles and it will be her that most likely claims sheepstealer ! But who knows ? At this point there have been so many book changes I’m not sure of all the choices they are gonna make
@@jasonck9635tbh I understand them cutting nettles other then having a reported affair/ maybe being his daughter she does nothing too affect the story. At least with rhaena us book readers get a suprise and maybe a new action scene
@@ant_boy_spice4400 yea I also understand their reasoning for doing it ! Maybe to give her character more to do ! I’m fine with this change , but I know a lot of Nettles fan are very dissatisfied ! But that’s not me ! I mean it makes sense what they are doing with Rhaena ! And could make her a favorite among many show viewers as well !
Sunfyre will not die. Many thought aegon would die as well. Sunfyre has a very important part to play
No lol they’re only saying that so it’s a SHOCK for non book readers when Aegon and sunfyre make their appearance
He definitely said “was long in the dying,” so Sunfyre is definitely dead
I'm sick of watching that old hag Vhagar. My biggest wish is to see wild dragons, Vermithor and maybe Balerion in flash backs like when Daemon has visions in Harrenhall.
They're apparently working on an Aegon's conquest tv show adaptation, so we'll get to see Balerion, Meraxes and young Vhagar don't worry
@@AmericarnaudMeraxes and Vhagar are the same age but Meraxes was bigger because Rhaenys flew more than Aegon and Visenya combined
@@grimmywizard um ok ?
@@Americarnaud I said so because you said young Vhagar
@@grimmywizard Oh sure but it’s still young Vhagar compared to House of the dragon. I mean it takes place 150 years before. I didn’t mean young as in baby dragon, young as in younger than we know her now
Helaenas kids had dragon eggs undeer there cradles bro, go back and look
hbo makes it seem like animating a dragon with pre set templates etc already established costs a million dollars per frame. don’t understand way more dragons screen time and overall action in the first show.
They cut 3 dragons. It makes sense that the 3 hatchlings were the ones cut. Curious how the storming will go down if there’s only 2 dragons there instead
i hate that hugh hammer got that godly dragon. if mysadria or daemon or even sons of alicent got that, it would have been great honour, but this typical nobody came in and washed away all the glory of wise king
I think grey ghost dying to the cannibal would really help the plot… just kidding. Would be sick to see the cannibal actually doing something tho
Sunfire can’t die yet cuz he has to kill rhaenyra but he will probably get killed off soon after
If rhaena tame sheepstealer then do you mean she will run away with her father💀
If they really delated Sheepstealer, then that's BS. They have time and budget for BS scenes, but not Sheepstealer and its rider?
Who will ride sheepstealer?
OMG! 🤦🏻♂️ They might delete Morning if Sheepstealer Bonds with Rhaena
To be fair, adapting a story with that many characters to screen, you'll have to cut some of them. So it makes sense to merge Nettles and Rhaena. Give Rhaena more of a role in the story instead of adding another character is a smart choice. But I don't think Sheepstealer is gonna be the one to be deleted. It'll probably be Morning
@@Americarnaud Isn't Nettles supposed to fck Daemon? So Rhaena can't be merged with Nettles...right?
@@MrMoose94 They can adapt it 100 different ways. But if Rhaena gets Sheepstealer, pretty sure she’s not gonna fuck Daemon
Where are the 17+ dragons they said we would see during the series. They realise its to expensive? So far its all the same dragons from season 1 besides sunfyre. Add more scenes talking around tables about all the cool stuff we only hear them talk about happening, save money. Lol
I was looking forward to nettles and sheepstealer alot !
HBO is probably thinking Sheepstealer's name is too childish.
I wasnt, glad they removed her.
If you have read the book you would know sunfyre is not dead arguably most important dragon of the war bar maybe vhagar
No, y'all not first, but I'm not going to say that word
You just said it
What's the name of the game 4:40
Draconia
Vhagar is by no means the center of the series and that's all on writers and directors and not vhagar atall. Things Are happening in HOTD for the sake of happening and makes no sense atall. Mind you I've never read the books but somethings are just stupid in season 2. And vhagar design did dirty to he dragon and idk how they'd recover from it for Aegon conquest series. Also noone fucking fears vhagar as every other person is casually talking about flying to it to kill it.
The 3 wild dragons were mentioned by Daemon, so there's a chance the 3 will make an appearance. The twins had their dragon eggs under their crib. Shrykos is out but Morghul is still a far possibility
What about the cannibal?
Nobody care, get a life😂
@@nomad8785 lmao that so rude🤣
And they will not show cannibal also it is also out of scope
People of the internet in the books rheynyra dies to sunfire at dragon stone but if sunfire dies the blacks win
add cannibal and make it 5
What if Hugh hammer daughter gets mornings egg
How dumb, you don’t give a dragon seed a dragon egg, they need to see if a dragon seed can bond with a living dragon, that’s the whole point…
@@Lesistius we know he’s gonna bond this is just a good twist if they decide to give rhaena sheepstealer plus if he is able to earn their trust it’s superstitious trait for Targaryen descendants to be given an egg to help them especially if they are ill like jaehereys when he was little and sick
What is about the cannibal?
I misheard something and I’m wrong. But can someone more knowledgeable than I share how Queen Helaena became bonded to Dreamfyre?
I’m glad they cut those 3. The less dragons the better.
what game at 4:44 bro?
did you find out the name?
Cannibal is pointless, he adds nothing to the story, just don't waste resources on him
if yo read the books you would know sunfire survives and eats reanera.
What language are you speaking in?
Are they going to delete the Cannibal?
Probably. Doesnt do anything in the books or show.
He's not relevant to the story....
Cannibal?
what about The Canibal?
He isn't really that relevant seeing as he didn't participate in the war
Canibal is deleted ?
To be fair I'm not sure they'll waste time on dragons that don't take part in the actual fighting. Cannibal and Grey ghost kind of serve no purpose to the story.
@@Americarnaud Grey Ghost and Sunfyre interact. I’m sure they can extrapolate some sort of metaphor from a wounded proud dragon killing another dragon (what House Targaryen became during the Dance) . Though I assume they would probably just show its corpse, so the showdown between Sunfyre and Moondancer be more special.
I haven't read the books, but you would think a dragon that likes feasting on his kind would take advantage of a large amount of poor Meleys carcass and the near dead Sunfyre, or maybe too much humans around, or the stench of dead humans.
@@garys2157 The Cannibal is on Dragonstone
We can see Shryko's and Morko's dragon eggs under his crib in A son for a Son
Edit: also stop using ai art
They should at least give grey ghost a cameo, I want to see his design, they work cut cannibal, he’s one of if not the most anticipated dragon in the show aside from vermithor and silverwing
Canibal might make an appearance due to fan service and might be why many try to claim him and fail. He might be seen killing Grey Ghost or Seasmoke too. Grey Ghost, I think he might not be shown or might be seen eaten by Cannibal if ever shown.
your voices are more annoying than those missing dragons
Ok bruce
a Rhaenyra disse que o Sunfire morreu então já é um a menos o problema vai ser a Vhagar
Aww how Sunfyre curled their body around an injured Aegon. 🥹💔
Sunfyre is male.