Love your content man. Nobody else comes close when it comes to discussing video features on mirrorless cameras. Sincerely. I just got mine today and have been equally impressed.
R5c with noise reduction in the device itself goes up to 25600 iso without problems, while the limit for r5 mark ii is 12800. Useful iso values are from 800-2000, then from 4000-10000 max. The level of detail at high iso values with the R5 Mark ii is excellent.
Hey Josh, professional sports videographer here. I'm 4:00 in the video and just wanted to say I really appreciate your reviews, and I trust your feedback and thoughts. I like how these videos feel personal, like I'm learning from you in the same room. None of that "big box" channel vibe that are all for show. I shot with a R5C for 2 years and recently switched to an FX3. Thinking about trying the r5ii now however.
how frustrating is it that 24,60, and 120 frame rates are all disabled unless you use their new battery. I was under the impression only the new features like 8k60 and pre-recording would require the new battery. Essentially bricking $1000+ in LP6NH Batteries I have.
I shoot 70% photo and 30% video. Dynamic Range for the R5M2 is good. Most of the DR test for photo reviews are unreasonable. I never shoot to the point I am doing extremely exposure and shadow pulls. Video is different in the sense that DR settings pre focus are exact and precise. I rely on knowledgeable reviewers like John to give us a perspective on those capabilities. I still mostly use the R6 for my video needs.
Thanks for the 1st impressions! As an owner of the R5 & R5C - I’m going to see if the R5C ii ever comes out in the next 2 yrs. If that happens to have better battery life/ different batteries than the og, then I’ll switch to that as my ultimate cinema/ photo hybrid. If I didn’t already own the R5, I definitely would scoop up the R5 ii!
Hi Josh, very interesting. I went to my Canon shop to rent the R5C. The assistant told me not to waste my time and just take the R5ii. 🤔. I’m not sure if it’s a sales man’s pitch as I quizzed them on the battery and running 8K 60 with the new battery and they had NO idea that it wouldn’t give the R5C enough power to run the 8K 60fps. So I told them it wouldn’t and they were surprised and I mentioned they need to check your channel on UA-cam. 😅. Anyway safe travels. Looking forward to when your back to do all the tests for us all. 🙌🏾
Hey Josh, great video as usual ! This is the video I was waiting :) I got mine on Monday unfortunately I had a spinal surgery 3 weeks ago so I'm a bit limited regarding testing, so I will not do any videos soon so I hope its ok that I share my thoughts and findings here. In video modes heavily dependent on the new battery which are currently hard to get and also most of old dummy batteries will not work,. ( I know this was known thing but I think people are not aware how much limited the video is with the older batteries) For photographers, The eye control af doesn’t seem to work vertically at all and horizontal not even close as it was working on R3 with my eye. Actually I used it successfully on the R3 even through polarised glasses. I had the sam problem as you, it managed to freeze in 4k raw 50 and 4Kfine when waking from standby mode. It happens 3 times and I had to turn off the camera to be able to use it. One time was the same as you with green lines, two times it was just black screen everything worked but the screen was black and the recored clip was not on the card. 8kraw all frame rates has this aura visible the one that was causing the Halo in 8K raw was Peripheral illum Core when set to ON in lens correction menu. It happens with all canon RF lenses it seams. It is not visible in 4K raw modes. Interesting part is that resolve and FCP show the thing a bit differently so it is definitely a software issue. It is not happening in 4Kraw. Or other recording non raw modes Video is nice, much cleaner image and lineskip modes seam a bit better than the one in the R5 (need more testing of that), 2k fine is really nice and I presume it will be popular among wedding filmmakers. 4k raw has some moire in some patterns, you can tell it is line skipped but it is nice and sharp. I would say it feels a bit artificially sharpen. But for many it will be a nice thing to use. Image regarding look in lineskiped modes is really similar to the one of the c70 would say it is slightly sharper but the C70 seams a bit warmer (Easy to correct) and has less moire. Also as expected c70 has much cleaner shadows but I need to test DR different more. ISO 4000 is nice and clean really usable. 8k raw seams much easier to edit in the resolve than the R3 6k raw and R5 8k raw There is a new folder system which I like since it separates photos from videos but I don't like that I can't create a new folder for video clips you can do it just for the photo clips. I'm really happy with the camera especially if they resolve all the bugs soon and manage to produce all the batteries people ordered since now I can't use it for video without a rig since I managed to get only the battery that comes with the camera.
Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts. I hope you recover quickly from the surgery. Interesting that you experienced some of the same screen issues. I hope Canon address this soon!
@@Josh_Sattin thank you Josh! Looking forward to future R5ii videos especially comparisons with R5c! Also hope our problem is a software issue since at least in Croatia I can’t replace it that easily with another unit right away.
I also received my r5ii today, I also have the z6iii and the z8, but I must admit that the handling of this r5ii is magnificent, even if I prefer the viewfinder of the Nikon Z
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Im glad the canon videography community still has you. Im 50/50 but im looking out for the r6MK3. Hopefully it has true 6K60 in camera and it doesn't gimp because of a battery. Literally have 12 Batteries :/
Thanks for this video. I have an r5c and the main issue with that camera is the battery. I would love to see some tests from you to see how the new battery is in the r5ii, especially when recording in most demanding modes (8k60 etc). Also is the new battery compatible with the r5c?
You're welcome. Yes the batteries are backwards compatible. You can use the new LP-E6P in the R5C but it won't give you any additional functionally at the moment.
Can't wait for your R5C vs R5II comparison. My buying decision hinges on what you find! I don't trust anyone else (apart from Carlos Quintero) - whether I pick up another R5C used or whether I should get an R5 top pair with it and give up on waiting for an R5CII that will most likely never come
Can you test out the capabilities and sharpness of 4K SRAW? How much can you push the grade on the mp4 CLOG2 compared the the SRAW? Meaning, if you can already push the CLOG2 a lot, is there really a benefit to the SRAW? Apart from ability to adjust WB in post. Noise difference?
Did you see Gerald's test on this? IF his tests are even remotely accurate, then this camera has the best dynamic range of any mirrorless camera that has been released, which is saying something.
Great first impressions video!! Two things I would LOVE to see in your full review: 1) can you set custom buttons to toggle view assist and one to toggle false color? That way you don’t have to open the menu to use false color? 2) When you do your overheating tests it would be really cool to have one of the tests be a more run and gun test. Where you see how long it lasts in something like 4K 60p Fine when only shooting short clips.
Happy for Canon users finally having a bonkers good camera. I work in a camera store and so I promise im not flaming with comparing brands but I find it crazy that Nikons EN-EL15 from 2011 can power a Z8 to shoot 8k60 NRAW but Canon forces a new battery for the same thing. My store stocks 7 canon batteries. With modern and legacy batteries combined from Sony, Fuji, and Nikon we have 11. This is Canon doing the 2 things they excel at. Making outdated technology work for as long as possible and abusing their customers wallets. They fully know people are not going to switch systems from one $5000 to another $5000 camera just because batteries and lenses are 50-100$ more
Nice one Josh, with that camera crash where the screen went green, I wonder is it anything to do with writing to the card? Did you format the card in cam? Also, with the crop mode, did you try in the 8k menu where it would ultimately give you a 6k crop? It's funny you mention this cos with the R5C, if you shoot crop in s16 it'll leave the camera in 2048 pixels wide even after you leave crop mode and go full frame again. I ended up shooting a few jobs in 2k instead of 4k as a result! 😂
Hey Hugh. That screen happened when I was not recording. I always format the card in the camera before I record. I don't think this has to do with recording stuff, but something with the operating system of the camera. I never shoot in 8K so I haven't tried that yet.
@@Josh_SattinI had the same green lines issue today with my R5ii while in video mode. First it was a black screen then green lines until I power cycled it. You mentioned you exchanged it in a recent video. Have you had any issues with the replacement body?
Thank you very much Josh for this comparison. Wanted to order the R52 first. Would have had to trade in the R5c for that... now I got a brand new R51 for USD 2300... now I have a camera for video and one for photos... not a bad deal. 😮😅
Thanks. I'm debating between this and the Rc5... As someone who travels I like the idea of an 'all in one' cam.. and I wonder if the Rc5 is just a bit bulky for this in form factor.. do you know what the run times are if you just need some standard good quality video for things like concerts.. that do go longer? 1080p.. a non raw type 4k? Thanks!
You can see the size difference between the R5C and R5II in this video. It's just the bump in the back where the fan is. I haven't done run time or overheating tests yet on the R5II so I can't comment on it, but I would guess the R5II will run longer on each battery.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks mate...I'm just curious whether, with the extra fan grip...what mode will still allow one to film for a couple of hours...so that overheating isn't an issue..1080p? A simpler version of 4K? ie. Things like 8K Raw are just way over the top for my needs! Thanks!
@@MatthewPolack I haven't tested run times or overheating yet so I unfortunately I can't answer your questions at this time. There is a non-fine (line skipped) 4K that I assume will not be a problem for long form recordings, but I haven't tested it yet.
Thanks for your insights. I'm looking forward to getting this camera. I'm just curious. My lilac bushes stopped blooming 2 or 3 months ago. Where are you shooing your videos?
The green screen has happened to me as well in average temperature (zero overheating). Happened with 8K Raw 23.98 RAW to an 2TB OWC Atlas Ultra Express 4.0 Type B CFExpress card formatted by the camera. Out of about 20 recordings it’s happened 4-5 times. When it happens I lose the recording I’m doing when the issue occurs. Power cycling fixes it. Did you hear anything back from canon? I’m concerned if I need to exchange from B&H as well.
Would be interesting to see the 8k raw difference between R5C and R5II. From posts on FB it seems like there's not a great deal of difference in dynamic range between the two but there is in the 4k modes
Josh, hello my friend. Before asking an important question, I would like to convey the following to you; first of all, your content is very valuable for enthusiasts like me. I am reaching you from Turkey and it is almost impossible to reach correct information about these subjects in my country. I thank you very much for your efforts. I send you my love and respect from another country. As for my question. I would like to learn the order that completely goes through your heart. If you wanted to shoot a festival film or a web series for a digital platform, I am curious about the first 4 cameras you would choose in order. Can you list these 4 cameras as follows? Example: Fx3>BMPCC>R5c>S1H etc. It makes me very happy to get ideas from experienced and knowledgeable people like you. If you respond to my message, you would make me very happy. I am so glad you exist, thank you for your efforts my friend.❤🙏
Thank you for the kind words. There is no way for me to rank cameras like that. It always depends on what you are doing, lenses, situation, the project, budget, etc.
Can you please make a comparison of the 4k fine vs 4 oversampled? Could you test the 4k raw. I'm curious to how good it looks. Furthermore, a comparison with the Z8 would be awesome!
Hi Josh, and many thanks for your thoughts on the new camera. As you have mentioned early on in this video, you’ll be eventually looking at some of the other filming modes. In particular, I am interested in seeing a review and hearing your thoughts on the quality and usability of the 4K60 mode. I know that it is not oversampled, but this is the mode that I would use on all of my projects (not just for slow motion), so I am hoping for a video on this subject, and looking forward to your thoughts.
You are welcome! Yes I will definitely be testing out the 4K60 as I am also personally very interested in it. I use 4K60 for all of the real estate stuff that I do.
Are you still using the Tascam unit for audio with your Canon cameras? I'm thinking of picking one up for my R5 ii but I've been seeing some reports of those units just dying randomyly.
Yes, I still have it. They tell you an order of operation in the manual to keep you from damaging the unit. I don't think a lot of people have read the manual though. I talk about it in this video: ua-cam.com/video/wFzP6iFXROM/v-deo.html
IDEAS FOR TESTING: 1. Drop the new LP-E6P battery into the R5C; does it improve R5C battery life?? 2. Does the R5Markii still do that annoying thing when changing frame rates where if you went from 24fps to 120fps, it would put you into 60fps INSTEAD of defaulting back to the previously used frame rate? 3. How is the camera when switching from Photo/Video and back again, does it need boot up time, does it remember your last used Video shutter speed? (Side bar, is there Shutter angle instead of thousandths of a second?) 4. Lastly, how loud is that battery grip fan, in real world settings, like say during a long interview or when filming indoors in a warm room with a demanding codec or frame rate? Can you side by side the battery fan grip noise level with the built-in fan of the R5C?
I've watched a few videos of people talking about the video switch being on the left side. Most of the newer Canon camera's have it on the left my R8 is on the left never was a problem to me. I think they are looking for something to complain about. Personally I would rather have the power switch accessible than the video switch. Plus I doubt that people shooting both video and pictures are likely to do it at the same. I think this camera does that so they won't be switching. The only gripe I have is that there's no open gate video. Just because the added ability to pan in post and you know...more options. I don't limit the sensor when taking pictures and sometimes I'll change the format in post.
Hi Josh - may I bother you? I have kind of niche -question. I own the C70 and the R6ii and do TV run and gun work. The R6ii has great downsampled lowlight and a great looking but only 8bit 4k 50p. I got the R5ii now for the 4k 100p and better codecs but I shocked about the lowlight capabilities. If you had the C70 and R6ii and the chance to replace one of them - would you get the C400 for the C70 or the R5ii for the R6ii?
The R6II definitely has 4K50 10-bit 422. You might have to shoot in Clog3 though. That would be a great upgrade of those two cameras. I haven't used a C400 though so I can't give you an opinion on it though.
Yes, I was watching and commented before you tried and you had that ever so slight moment that 8K 60 might work. Then you tried and we were all deflated. Good to see if the run time would be the same. It looks like the new batteries don’t offer much to the R5C.
iam wondering how is the new lp-e6p performs on the r5c, will it get better runtime on 4k50 or unlocked the 8k50 autofocus, if that so this battery will be a gem!
There is an electronic level just like the other recent Canon mirrorless cameras. I haven't tested the autofocus yet but the R5II has subject detection besides human.
Hi Josh! Thank you so much as usual for your precious review... In the r5 like you explain well in the past, the 4k 50p was not so crispy or "detailed" like the apsc mode in 4k 50p. Do you think or do you noticed any improvement in the r5 ii? The 4k 50p is clear and sharp as the 4k 50 in apsc mode? Using the 5r for the 50p mode I prefer stay in apsc so far...but is a pity having a full frame body! Thank you so much!! Cheers !
I'll take your word for it on the dynamic range regarding the shadow areas Josh. To me the highlights look great, but the shadow areas look characteristically Canon crushed to me. It's a beautiful image, and you shot some great test shots, but I'm still not sold on the dynamic range of the low end...
Thanks for a good video! I shoot 90% photo and 10% video which I’m planning to upscale with the mk-2. What is the best video settings for wildlife where no post editing is required please.
Is it normal to feel some slight movement in the body when you quickly pick it up or tilt it back and forth (when off)? I assume that’s the sensor shifting inside?
What are your thoughts on the new batteries and the R5C? I know the R5C and other older Canon models will receive firmware in the future that lets them utilize the new batteries, but do you think the new batteries will help prolong the R5C's battery life?
No idea yet. I bought several of the new batteries. I do hope that this will help the R5C, but I doubt it will make much of a difference. The LP-E6N and LP-E6NH have the same Wh.
I have encountered a similar screen gremlin in my R6II, happened twice. Turning on/off was not enough; I had to remove the battery. I also assumed this was a software problem and it happened while in video mode. I take slightly greater care to flip switches one at a time, etc. and it has not happened again.
Hi Josh ! I’ve been waiting for you to release this video about Canon R5 mark II. You are the only person to whom I trust. I’ve learned a lot from you while I had for couple weeks R5C. I love R5C 😊 made few great videos. I have a question for you. Should I go ahead and buy R5C or choose R5II . What do you think ? I can’t wait for your comparison video R5II vs R5C
Oh man! Thank you for the kind words! I definitely plan on making a deep dive comparison with the R5C and R5II. Here are my thoughts about the two cameras at the time of the announcement: ua-cam.com/video/9w0k982jeDg/v-deo.html
Thanks for video! These scenes at the sunset I got impressed how well both colors and highlights in sky looked. Subtle tones of yellow and orange was well retained. Really great! The view assist profile in Canon R5 is the same. It shows the picture way too bright. It would be very interesting test to see a comparison between R5C in the approved Netflix mode compared to equivalent in R5 mk2. Personally I don’t think it is such a big difference, but it would be very interesting to see it. Please do a test about that in the nature, different scenes sky and face. You do a great job, Josh 🤗🤗
The image quality is great here! Looks really sharp. Are you adding any sharpness in post? And what are your export settings before you upload to UA-cam?
Let's do a video on indetail comparision between R5 mark ii and R5C ?
I am planning on it.
i NEED this.
@@EpicNovA97 yeah we definitely all need that
Thanks Josh 👍🏻 you are a Master!!
That’s the episode I can’t wait to see and I’m sure many others are as well. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Love your content man. Nobody else comes close when it comes to discussing video features on mirrorless cameras. Sincerely. I just got mine today and have been equally impressed.
Thank you so much! Congrats on the R5II. Enjoy!
Ah man, I can't wait for the comparison videos: R5C, FX3, C70, Z8 = low light, DR, 4k60 quality!!!! You're the man Josh!
I wish I had all of those cameras to play with! Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin how does the low light compare to fx3
@@MrDeliciousCreator I haven’t tested the low light yet and unfortunately I don’t have a FX3 to compare it with.
@@Josh_Sattin Can somebody lend you the cameras you don't have? That would be an awesome test.
R5c with noise reduction in the device itself goes up to 25600 iso without problems, while the limit for r5 mark ii is 12800. Useful iso values are from 800-2000, then from 4000-10000 max. The level of detail at high iso values with the R5 Mark ii is excellent.
Hey Josh, professional sports videographer here. I'm 4:00 in the video and just wanted to say I really appreciate your reviews, and I trust your feedback and thoughts. I like how these videos feel personal, like I'm learning from you in the same room. None of that "big box" channel vibe that are all for show. I shot with a R5C for 2 years and recently switched to an FX3. Thinking about trying the r5ii now however.
Oh wow. Thank you so much for the kind words! Glad you have been enjoying the videos and thanks for watching!
Here we GOOOO!
Yeaaaahhh Buddy!
how frustrating is it that 24,60, and 120 frame rates are all disabled unless you use their new battery. I was under the impression only the new features like 8k60 and pre-recording would require the new battery. Essentially bricking $1000+ in LP6NH Batteries I have.
Where does it say this ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals When you plug in a LP-E6NH battery, all record modes only have a 29.97 option.
Any idea if that's the case with a dummy battery conned to a v-mount? Should be way more than enough power.
I shoot 70% photo and 30% video. Dynamic Range for the R5M2 is good. Most of the DR test for photo reviews are unreasonable. I never shoot to the point I am doing extremely exposure and shadow pulls. Video is different in the sense that DR settings pre focus are exact and precise. I rely on knowledgeable reviewers like John to give us a perspective on those capabilities. I still mostly use the R6 for my video needs.
Thanks for the 1st impressions! As an owner of the R5 & R5C - I’m going to see if the R5C ii ever comes out in the next 2 yrs. If that happens to have better battery life/ different batteries than the og, then I’ll switch to that as my ultimate cinema/ photo hybrid. If I didn’t already own the R5, I definitely would scoop up the R5 ii!
You're welcome. I do hope we see a R5CII sometime soon🤞. Thanks for watching!
I love how casually you said my driveway..
😂
Bro, where do you live? I need that driveway.
Haha. I live in Raleigh, NC.
Thank Josh for this INFORMATIVE video. I love it when you declare this video is NOT Sponsored.
Currently saving up for a used r5
That's a great camera too!
Right on time Josh is here to answer all the questions I have that no other channel covers. Thanks mate!
You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by!
Yes...... Finally been waiting to see this. 🙏🏽
Hi Josh, first of all, excellent mini review as always. I am definitely looking forward for a review of the R5 mk II vs the R5C
Thank you so much! I am looking forward to making that comparison too!
Is there still an Ibis wobble on wide lenses?
I haven't tested it on anything wider than 24mm yet, but I will.
Always enjoy a nice "Hey there!".
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
ive been waiting for this vid Josh, thanks
You’re welcome. Thanks for stopping by!
Dammit JOSH this is better than I expected. My arm is being twisted.!!!!
Hahaha. Take your time with the decision. Not a cheap camera!
@@Josh_Sattin no doubt I think I will sell my R5 in the cooler months and then pick one up in the spring
much awaited review!
Interesting stuff can’t wait to see the detailed DR tests and comparisons.
Dearest Josh and sunlight I thank you for this video ❤
You are vey welcome!
Hi Josh, very interesting. I went to my Canon shop to rent the R5C. The assistant told me not to waste my time and just take the R5ii. 🤔. I’m not sure if it’s a sales man’s pitch as I quizzed them on the battery and running 8K 60 with the new battery and they had NO idea that it wouldn’t give the R5C enough power to run the 8K 60fps. So I told them it wouldn’t and they were surprised and I mentioned they need to check your channel on UA-cam. 😅. Anyway safe travels. Looking forward to when your back to do all the tests for us all. 🙌🏾
Thanks for recommending my channel! I think the R5C will be useful over the R5II in some situations. I have a lot of testing to do.
Hey Josh, great video as usual ! This is the video I was waiting :)
I got mine on Monday unfortunately I had a spinal surgery 3 weeks ago so I'm a bit limited regarding testing, so I will not do any videos soon so I hope its ok that I share my thoughts and findings here.
In video modes heavily dependent on the new battery which are currently hard to get and also most of old dummy batteries will not work,. ( I know this was known thing but I think people are not aware how much limited the video is with the older batteries)
For photographers, The eye control af doesn’t seem to work vertically at all and horizontal not even close as it was working on R3 with my eye. Actually I used it successfully on the R3 even through polarised glasses.
I had the sam problem as you, it managed to freeze in 4k raw 50 and 4Kfine when waking from standby mode. It happens 3 times and I had to turn off the camera to be able to use it. One time was the same as you with green lines, two times it was just black screen everything worked but the screen was black and the recored clip was not on the card.
8kraw all frame rates has this aura visible the one that was causing the Halo in 8K raw was Peripheral illum Core when set to ON in lens correction menu. It happens with all canon RF lenses it seams. It is not visible in 4K raw modes. Interesting part is that resolve and FCP show the thing a bit differently so it is definitely a software issue. It is not happening in 4Kraw. Or other recording non raw modes
Video is nice, much cleaner image and lineskip modes seam a bit better than the one in the R5 (need more testing of that), 2k fine is really nice and I presume it will be popular among wedding filmmakers.
4k raw has some moire in some patterns, you can tell it is line skipped but it is nice and sharp. I would say it feels a bit artificially sharpen. But for many it will be a nice thing to use.
Image regarding look in lineskiped modes is really similar to the one of the c70 would say it is slightly sharper but the C70 seams a bit warmer (Easy to correct) and has less moire. Also as expected c70 has much cleaner shadows but I need to test DR different more.
ISO 4000 is nice and clean really usable.
8k raw seams much easier to edit in the resolve than the R3 6k raw and R5 8k raw
There is a new folder system which I like since it separates photos from videos but I don't like that I can't create a new folder for video clips you can do it just for the photo clips.
I'm really happy with the camera especially if they resolve all the bugs soon and manage to produce all the batteries people ordered since now I can't use it for video without a rig since I managed to get only the battery that comes with the camera.
Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts. I hope you recover quickly from the surgery. Interesting that you experienced some of the same screen issues. I hope Canon address this soon!
@@Josh_Sattin thank you Josh! Looking forward to future R5ii videos especially comparisons with R5c! Also hope our problem is a software issue since at least in Croatia I can’t replace it that easily with another unit right away.
Great job as always Josh! I look forward to you doing a menu set up for the R5 II
Thanks! Yeah I’ll definitely be making one after I use the camera for a bit.
I also received my r5ii today, I also have the z6iii and the z8, but I must admit that the handling of this r5ii is magnificent, even if I prefer the viewfinder of the Nikon Z
the video we all waited for!!! :)
Thanks for stopping by!
Woohoo!!! It’s here!
You're the source I trust the most when it comes to details and comparisons of any camera or gear video you put out. Thank you for your hard work!
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@cyprusperry6482 I really appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching!
@kernzilla I appreciate all of your support. It means so much!
Thank god for someone who just does video!!! SUBBED! played with pre production one and wow the dynamic range is impressive.
Thanks for checking out the channel. I appreciate the support!
Im glad the canon videography community still has you. Im 50/50 but im looking out for the r6MK3. Hopefully it has true 6K60 in camera and it doesn't gimp because of a battery. Literally have 12 Batteries :/
Thank you for the kind words. I'm also looking forward to the R6III.
Great initial look. I've had 3 of those Angelbird 512gb cards fail on me within 2 months in the canon r5c. proceed with caution
Love it Josh! Thanks for all you do.
You're welcome. Thanks for stopping by Zack!
22:27 looking forward to R5C comparison! My guess is it is overall much better
Great video, always informative and detailed keep it up!
Thanks!
The best review out there 🎉
Thank you for the kind words!
Interested in hearing about the lowlight capabilities, definitely the main reason im close to leaving canon
Thanks for this video. I have an r5c and the main issue with that camera is the battery. I would love to see some tests from you to see how the new battery is in the r5ii, especially when recording in most demanding modes (8k60 etc). Also is the new battery compatible with the r5c?
You're welcome. Yes the batteries are backwards compatible. You can use the new LP-E6P in the R5C but it won't give you any additional functionally at the moment.
Can't wait for your R5C vs R5II comparison. My buying decision hinges on what you find! I don't trust anyone else (apart from Carlos Quintero) - whether I pick up another R5C used or whether I should get an R5 top pair with it and give up on waiting for an R5CII that will most likely never come
Can you test out the capabilities and sharpness of 4K SRAW? How much can you push the grade on the mp4 CLOG2 compared the the SRAW? Meaning, if you can already push the CLOG2 a lot, is there really a benefit to the SRAW? Apart from ability to adjust WB in post. Noise difference?
Did you see Gerald's test on this? IF his tests are even remotely accurate, then this camera has the best dynamic range of any mirrorless camera that has been released, which is saying something.
Footy lookin like a c70 🤯🤯
I think that means you like it!?! Thanks for stopping by Thomas!
Very convincing and great results. Love the colors.
Great first impressions video!! Two things I would LOVE to see in your full review:
1) can you set custom buttons to toggle view assist and one to toggle false color? That way you don’t have to open the menu to use false color?
2) When you do your overheating tests it would be really cool to have one of the tests be a more run and gun test. Where you see how long it lasts in something like 4K 60p Fine when only shooting short clips.
Thanks!
1) You can set a custom button to false color, but not view assist.
2) There is no 4K60 fine mode.
Happy for Canon users finally having a bonkers good camera. I work in a camera store and so I promise im not flaming with comparing brands but I find it crazy that Nikons EN-EL15 from 2011 can power a Z8 to shoot 8k60 NRAW but Canon forces a new battery for the same thing. My store stocks 7 canon batteries. With modern and legacy batteries combined from Sony, Fuji, and Nikon we have 11.
This is Canon doing the 2 things they excel at. Making outdated technology work for as long as possible and abusing their customers wallets. They fully know people are not going to switch systems from one $5000 to another $5000 camera just because batteries and lenses are 50-100$ more
Yeah it's cool to see Canon come out with a powerful camera like this and I agree it's annoying to have to buy new batteries.
Nice one Josh, with that camera crash where the screen went green, I wonder is it anything to do with writing to the card? Did you format the card in cam? Also, with the crop mode, did you try in the 8k menu where it would ultimately give you a 6k crop? It's funny you mention this cos with the R5C, if you shoot crop in s16 it'll leave the camera in 2048 pixels wide even after you leave crop mode and go full frame again. I ended up shooting a few jobs in 2k instead of 4k as a result! 😂
Hey Hugh. That screen happened when I was not recording. I always format the card in the camera before I record. I don't think this has to do with recording stuff, but something with the operating system of the camera. I never shoot in 8K so I haven't tried that yet.
@@Josh_SattinI had the same green lines issue today with my R5ii while in video mode. First it was a black screen then green lines until I power cycled it. You mentioned you exchanged it in a recent video. Have you had any issues with the replacement body?
Sony didn’t even blink LOL
Best video as always
Thank you so much!
Thank you very much Josh for this comparison. Wanted to order the R52 first. Would have had to trade in the R5c for that... now I got a brand new R51 for USD 2300... now I have a camera for video and one for photos... not a bad deal. 😮😅
You are very welcome. R5/R5C combo is pretty awesome!
Great job! I would love to see someone do the same video content for the R1 given the lower pixel count
Thanks! I would love to test out and review the R1!
Looking forward to the SRaw video❤
Thanks. I'm debating between this and the Rc5... As someone who travels I like the idea of an 'all in one' cam.. and I wonder if the Rc5 is just a bit bulky for this in form factor.. do you know what the run times are if you just need some standard good quality video for things like concerts.. that do go longer? 1080p.. a non raw type 4k? Thanks!
You can see the size difference between the R5C and R5II in this video. It's just the bump in the back where the fan is. I haven't done run time or overheating tests yet on the R5II so I can't comment on it, but I would guess the R5II will run longer on each battery.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks mate...I'm just curious whether, with the extra fan grip...what mode will still allow one to film for a couple of hours...so that overheating isn't an issue..1080p? A simpler version of 4K? ie. Things like 8K Raw are just way over the top for my needs! Thanks!
@@MatthewPolack I haven't tested run times or overheating yet so I unfortunately I can't answer your questions at this time. There is a non-fine (line skipped) 4K that I assume will not be a problem for long form recordings, but I haven't tested it yet.
Great work Josh
Thank you so much!
Great review, Josh! I'm excited about CLOG 2!
NICK! I hope you are doing well! Yes, I am pumped about Clog2!
Looks great so far… can’t wait for in depth…please do some animals 😎
I'm waiting for c-log2 vs c-log3 vs RAW DR tests
Thanks for your insights. I'm looking forward to getting this camera. I'm just curious. My lilac bushes stopped blooming 2 or 3 months ago. Where are you shooing your videos?
You're welcome. I am in Raleigh, NC.
GREAT STUFF.....as always! Thanks Josh.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
The green screen has happened to me as well in average temperature (zero overheating).
Happened with 8K Raw 23.98 RAW to an 2TB OWC Atlas Ultra Express 4.0 Type B CFExpress card formatted by the camera.
Out of about 20 recordings it’s happened 4-5 times. When it happens I lose the recording I’m doing when the issue occurs. Power cycling fixes it.
Did you hear anything back from canon? I’m concerned if I need to exchange from B&H as well.
Please do a video on deep raw video analysis and DR
Would be interesting to see the 8k raw difference between R5C and R5II. From posts on FB it seems like there's not a great deal of difference in dynamic range between the two but there is in the 4k modes
Just got mine too, thanks for reassuring me
You're welcome. Congrats on the new camera and thanks for stopping by to check out this video!
Josh, hello my friend. Before asking an important question, I would like to convey the following to you; first of all, your content is very valuable for enthusiasts like me. I am reaching you from Turkey and it is almost impossible to reach correct information about these subjects in my country. I thank you very much for your efforts. I send you my love and respect from another country.
As for my question. I would like to learn the order that completely goes through your heart. If you wanted to shoot a festival film or a web series for a digital platform, I am curious about the first 4 cameras you would choose in order. Can you list these 4 cameras as follows? Example: Fx3>BMPCC>R5c>S1H etc. It makes me very happy to get ideas from experienced and knowledgeable people like you. If you respond to my message, you would make me very happy. I am so glad you exist, thank you for your efforts my friend.❤🙏
Thank you for the kind words. There is no way for me to rank cameras like that. It always depends on what you are doing, lenses, situation, the project, budget, etc.
It has a lot of improvements over the r5 for sure but I don’t think it justifies the price difference over what you can get now for an r5 or an r5c.
Still prefer the Canon color over Sony, but hard to switch back for me at this point.
Does the R5 II worked when connect to the V mount battery? Does the new battery support charging and shooting in the same time?
Can you please make a comparison of the 4k fine vs 4 oversampled? Could you test the 4k raw. I'm curious to how good it looks. Furthermore, a comparison with the Z8 would be awesome!
I will definitely be diving into all of the recording modes and testing them. Unfortunately I don't have a Z8. Thanks for watching!
Hi Josh, and many thanks for your thoughts on the new camera. As you have mentioned early on in this video, you’ll be eventually looking at some of the other filming modes. In particular, I am interested in seeing a review and hearing your thoughts on the quality and usability of the 4K60 mode. I know that it is not oversampled, but this is the mode that I would use on all of my projects (not just for slow motion), so I am hoping for a video on this subject, and looking forward to your thoughts.
You are welcome! Yes I will definitely be testing out the 4K60 as I am also personally very interested in it. I use 4K60 for all of the real estate stuff that I do.
Awesome. 😊👍
Nice and detailed - first impression. You could mention which camera was in front of you to shoot this first impression video.
Thanks! All of cameras are in the description of my videos.
Gosh, I just love your vids.
Thank you so much!
How's the 4k60 and 4k120? Does the image have any quality issues since it isnt oversampled?
Haven't tested it yet, but I will be testing it for sure!
My dream camera ❤❤❤❤
I mainly photograph stills but looking into trying some of the video functions with the R5M2. Very nice review.
I’ll stay with my R5
Are you still using the Tascam unit for audio with your Canon cameras? I'm thinking of picking one up for my R5 ii but I've been seeing some reports of those units just dying randomyly.
Yes, I still have it. They tell you an order of operation in the manual to keep you from damaging the unit. I don't think a lot of people have read the manual though. I talk about it in this video: ua-cam.com/video/wFzP6iFXROM/v-deo.html
IDEAS FOR TESTING: 1. Drop the new LP-E6P battery into the R5C; does it improve R5C battery life?? 2. Does the R5Markii still do that annoying thing when changing frame rates where if you went from 24fps to 120fps, it would put you into 60fps INSTEAD of defaulting back to the previously used frame rate? 3. How is the camera when switching from Photo/Video and back again, does it need boot up time, does it remember your last used Video shutter speed? (Side bar, is there Shutter angle instead of thousandths of a second?) 4. Lastly, how loud is that battery grip fan, in real world settings, like say during a long interview or when filming indoors in a warm room with a demanding codec or frame rate? Can you side by side the battery fan grip noise level with the built-in fan of the R5C?
I've watched a few videos of people talking about the video switch being on the left side.
Most of the newer Canon camera's have it on the left my R8 is on the left never was a problem to me. I think they are looking for something to complain about.
Personally I would rather have the power switch accessible than the video switch. Plus I doubt that people shooting both video and pictures are likely to do it at the same. I think this camera does that so they won't be switching.
The only gripe I have is that there's no open gate video. Just because the added ability to pan in post and you know...more options. I don't limit the sensor when taking pictures and sometimes I'll change the format in post.
brother make a comparison video with c70 or c400 clog 2 so that we can see how much same quality they both have..
I'd love to get my hands on a C400 but I doubt that will happen.
Hi Josh - may I bother you? I have kind of niche -question. I own the C70 and the R6ii and do TV run and gun work. The R6ii has great downsampled lowlight and a great looking but only 8bit 4k 50p. I got the R5ii now for the 4k 100p and better codecs but I shocked about the lowlight capabilities. If you had the C70 and R6ii and the chance to replace one of them - would you get the C400 for the C70 or the R5ii for the R6ii?
The R6II definitely has 4K50 10-bit 422. You might have to shoot in Clog3 though. That would be a great upgrade of those two cameras. I haven't used a C400 though so I can't give you an opinion on it though.
Also good to know if the new batteries work on the R5C and they add any additional power performance.
Yes the batteries are backwards compatible. You can use the new LP-E6P in the R5C but it won't give you any additional functionally at the moment.
Yes, I was watching and commented before you tried and you had that ever so slight moment that 8K 60 might work. Then you tried and we were all deflated. Good to see if the run time would be the same. It looks like the new batteries don’t offer much to the R5C.
still i hope that canon give us C log 2 on R5c
In new firmware update ?
It would be awesome, but it ain't going to happen.
Yeah, it’s metering of clog2 is definitely a little wonky. I tend to find that it way wants to way under expose it.
iam wondering how is the new lp-e6p performs on the r5c, will it get better runtime on 4k50 or unlocked the 8k50 autofocus, if that so this battery will be a gem!
I had the green screen for a split sec and never happened again. It corrected itself.
Could you put examples in Clog 2 4k raw for download? On google drive….. or any platform? Thanks for your videos and share your knowledge!!
Dear Josh. Is there a electronic level while filming? Is the AF in video much better then the R5 or R5c?
There is an electronic level just like the other recent Canon mirrorless cameras. I haven't tested the autofocus yet but the R5II has subject detection besides human.
Nice overview. Appreciated.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Hi Josh! Thank you so much as usual for your precious review... In the r5 like you explain well in the past, the 4k 50p was not so crispy or "detailed" like the apsc mode in 4k 50p. Do you think or do you noticed any improvement in the r5 ii? The 4k 50p is clear and sharp as the 4k 50 in apsc mode? Using the 5r for the 50p mode I prefer stay in apsc so far...but is a pity having a full frame body! Thank you so much!! Cheers !
You're welcome. I haven't had a chance to test out other frame rates and modes. I will eventually though. Thanks for watching!
I'll take your word for it on the dynamic range regarding the shadow areas Josh. To me the highlights look great, but the shadow areas look characteristically Canon crushed to me. It's a beautiful image, and you shot some great test shots, but I'm still not sold on the dynamic range of the low end...
Thanks for a good video! I shoot 90% photo and 10% video which I’m planning to upscale with the mk-2. What is the best video settings for wildlife where no post editing is required please.
Is it normal to feel some slight movement in the body when you quickly pick it up or tilt it back and forth (when off)? I assume that’s the sensor shifting inside?
I think that's the IBIS disengaged and moving around when the camera is off.
So happy!!!
we need to see overheating tests !
It's on the list of videos!
What are your thoughts on the new batteries and the R5C? I know the R5C and other older Canon models will receive firmware in the future that lets them utilize the new batteries, but do you think the new batteries will help prolong the R5C's battery life?
No idea yet. I bought several of the new batteries. I do hope that this will help the R5C, but I doubt it will make much of a difference. The LP-E6N and LP-E6NH have the same Wh.
I have encountered a similar screen gremlin in my R6II, happened twice. Turning on/off was not enough; I had to remove the battery. I also assumed this was a software problem and it happened while in video mode. I take slightly greater care to flip switches one at a time, etc. and it has not happened again.
Hi Josh ! I’ve been waiting for you to release this video about Canon R5 mark II. You are the only person to whom I trust. I’ve learned a lot from you while I had for couple weeks R5C. I love R5C 😊 made few great videos. I have a question for you. Should I go ahead and buy R5C or choose R5II . What do you think ?
I can’t wait for your comparison video R5II vs R5C
Oh man! Thank you for the kind words! I definitely plan on making a deep dive comparison with the R5C and R5II. Here are my thoughts about the two cameras at the time of the announcement: ua-cam.com/video/9w0k982jeDg/v-deo.html
@@Josh_Sattin Thank you Josh for your reply 👍😊
Thanks for video!
These scenes at the sunset I got impressed how well both colors and highlights in sky looked. Subtle tones of yellow and orange was well retained. Really great!
The view assist profile in Canon R5 is the same. It shows the picture way too bright.
It would be very interesting test to see a comparison between R5C in the approved Netflix mode compared to equivalent in R5 mk2. Personally I don’t think it is such a big difference, but it would be very interesting to see it. Please do a test about that in the nature, different scenes sky and face.
You do a great job, Josh 🤗🤗
You're welcome. I definitely plan on doing a deep dive comparison with the R5C. Thanks for watching!
The image quality is great here! Looks really sharp. Are you adding any sharpness in post? And what are your export settings before you upload to UA-cam?
The R5 4k fine footage has always been super sharp. It looks pretty close to 8k
No sharpness in post. I exporting with Resolve in 4K MP4 H.264.
Thanks!
OMG it's in hand!!! 👏👏 Congrats dude, cant wait to sit down and watch this later
Yup! Thanks for stopping by and checking out the video!
My question is: Does the camera LCD stay on when connecting an external monitor, or does it turn off like with the R6II?
Yes you can have the LCD on with HDMI out. The HDMI out is a clean feed though.
@@Josh_Sattin Oh okay! Thanks for responding and keep up the great videos you make :)
So, is it impossible for the R5C to receive CLOG2 in a firmware update? Is it simply a sensor issue?
Canon says they won't put Clog2 in the R5C because the sensor is not capable of capturing all of the dynamic range.