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  • @kevincinnamontoast3669
    @kevincinnamontoast3669 2 роки тому

    Nice chair.

  • @jimroth7119
    @jimroth7119 6 років тому

    Nice build

  • @JesusvonNazaret
    @JesusvonNazaret 10 років тому

    great chair

  • @practicalguruconcern
    @practicalguruconcern 3 роки тому

    oh wow this chair is really something amazing

  • @DocPicklez
    @DocPicklez 10 років тому

    After watching this video the word "novice" is now to advanced a title for me.

  • @kplante7881
    @kplante7881 10 років тому

    Fantastic!!!

  • @andyedwards9011
    @andyedwards9011 4 роки тому

    Crazy. I wonder how many more hand tools they used back in the day!

  • @davidosullivan3432
    @davidosullivan3432 10 років тому

    please show us when you have seat .its awesome well done

  • @JayBates
    @JayBates 10 років тому +8

    Great craftsmanship Marc.

  • @waveoflight
    @waveoflight 4 роки тому

    That is Beautiful.
    Where are the other 7 chairs now?

  • @kirkhart5691
    @kirkhart5691 4 роки тому

    Fantastic Work !!! now, can you. at home make 3 more chairs for a set ? can you get the jigs ? again Well done!

  • @m93sek
    @m93sek 10 років тому

    great

  • @HelpMeDIY
    @HelpMeDIY 3 роки тому

    Great job! I did a similar class for a Greene & Greene style server. I also build the Robinson table from the plans in Woodworker's Journal several years ago. Sadly I need to sell that dining room table now since my wife wants me to make her a Farmhouse table. You don't know anyone in the market for one do you?

  • @tannerbriggs9127
    @tannerbriggs9127 Рік тому

    Can you recommend a website to get the custom bit used to trim the ebony spline?

  • @gregsmith1719
    @gregsmith1719 6 років тому

    Is this about making money or just having a hobby?

  • @SteveCarmichael
    @SteveCarmichael 10 років тому +1

    Beautiful chair Marc! Thanks for sharing this inspiring experience with us. I bet you'll never use that one as a backup drum throne.

  • @pocket83
    @pocket83 10 років тому

    I love how both the contrasting spline-work and the buttons stick up a bit. It works especially well around the curves, like at 11:45.

  • @thiswoodwork
    @thiswoodwork 10 років тому +10

    A really interesting build and very enjoyable watch Marc. B-e-a-utiful!

  • @aaltan
    @aaltan 10 років тому

    Dear Marc, this internet thing made a very small world for us all.. I am happily watching your work from here, Istanbul... I think you are one of the best quality masters, the way you tell about the work, the way you handle it. Thank you very much.

  • @donk9132
    @donk9132 10 років тому +3

    The Greene & Greene team did amazing work with everything they touched. This chair is an example of their craftsmanship on a small scale. I've read about them some years back and found them to be awe inspiring. Their projects were way above the heads of the average man. I believe they worked on projects for, you might say, over the top wealthy people. My hat goes off the the man/ school you mention that went through the trouble to calculate all the templates for this chair. I want to say that is a beautiful chair indeed...even without the cushion...!!

  • @TheJimsock
    @TheJimsock 10 років тому

    I'll never understand a negative reaction to Greene + Greene.
    Stunning.
    Thanks for the vid.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      It was an acquired taste for me. I always respected the workmanship and design though I didn't initially like it. But now, I'm a big fan. I have several pieces in my own home as a result. So I can understand why some folks don't particularly like it, but I don't think there are many woodworkers out there that don't at least respect it.

    • @TheJimsock
      @TheJimsock 10 років тому +1

      The Wood Whisperer Forgive me for going on but...I travel for a living and had occasion to stay in a Seattle Hotel called The Arctic Club. It's a dramatic example of turn of the century architecture and true to it's "gold-rush" roots although it was financed by the pottery trade. It was the jumping off point for the Cook Arctic expedition. The Hotel Mascot is a walrus. Amazingly it's 'just' a Double Tree.
      The workmanship throughout the place is indescribable.
      The polar bar was so impressive that I could barely order my martini and embarrassed myself with a bartender who is, apparently, royalty at the hotel and internationally known for his mix-ologist publications.
      I spent the first 20 minutes walking around in awe and finally stopped dead in my tracks before a simple table in a passage way that was in the Greene and Greene style.
      I don't have the chops to say that it was original or a replicate/reproduction but, the point is, it just looked all the more amazing in this setting so, I'm thinking, the style is best appreciated "where it belongs" so to speak.
      I think it's called a 'hall bench' which is odd because, you couldn't sit on it and was obviously not meant for sitting.
      It had a branch inlay on the top and fixed "leaves/wings" with the classic Greene and Greene joinery.
      I eventually found more objects peppered around that had similar examples of that type of joinery. All smallish and 'incidental'. Most of the big stuff was plush upholstery.
      I checked some relevant galleries on the internet and haven't seen any examples so I doubt any of it was authentic but, it was still awesome.
      I examined/stared at the hall bench long enough that the staff made the move to ask me if I was Ok and didn't need "help".
      I do need 'help' but, that's a different UA-cam channel.
      Enjoy but, this doesn't do it justice.....
      www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&espv=210&es_sm=93&biw=1147&bih=706&tbm=isch&oq=the+arctic+club+seattle+&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24l4.1767754.1767754.0.1768374.1.1.0.0.0.0.102.102.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.36.img..0.1.101.VmpOVzyG3co&q=the%20arctic%20club%20seattle

  • @Goondas
    @Goondas 10 років тому

    Impressive piece of work. One thing that has always bothered me about the Greene & Green style is the ebony details. Clearly on your chair and most of the other modern reproductions I've seen of these pieces the plugs are just decorative. But I was surprised to see that the splines are actually functional in your chair.
    In the original pieces, are the plugs (and other ebony details) purely aesthetic like they mostly are on the modern pieces? Or are they actually functional (i.e. used for locking the tenons, etc)?

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      The vast majority were decorative. Darrell Peart showed some x-ray images of G&G details that reveal most splines were just there for decoration and rarely provided any real support. For the most part, it was all about aesthetics.

    • @Goondas
      @Goondas 10 років тому

      The Wood Whisperer That is what I thought, and why I was pleasantly surprised to see actual functional splines in this chair. Their lack of functionality does bother me just a bit (my engineering mind keeps telling me "form follows function"), but I guess there isn't any need to further increase the difficulty and work required for an already complex piece like this by adding functional pegs all over the place.

  • @jdhannan
    @jdhannan 10 років тому

    Any guesses as to the cost of the wood for one chair?

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      William charges $350 for materials/studio fee.

  • @WatchRepairChannel
    @WatchRepairChannel 10 років тому

    Outstanding chair. It's a work of art. Great job :)

  • @gamingSlasher
    @gamingSlasher 10 років тому +2

    Impressive and thinking about the work they put into it in the old days without power tools......

  • @theoverturned4033
    @theoverturned4033 10 років тому

    How did you put those small tapered sections into the leggs? I have been trying to do this myself but chissels and determination have only rewarded be with frustration . . .

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      Those were done on the multi-router. I have done them in the past with a standard router and a jig that sits over the legs. WIth a stop collar and a straight bit, the whole thing becomes pretty straightforward and all that's left to do is a little sanding.

  • @rrwoodworksmore9239
    @rrwoodworksmore9239 10 років тому +3

    now that is an awesome project, very beautiful chair, cant even imagine building something that complex. Big Thumbs Up!

  • @dnngskn62
    @dnngskn62 10 років тому

    Wonderful build, beautiful chair.

  • @MikeWaldt
    @MikeWaldt 10 років тому +1

    Stunning Marc, simply stunning.
    Take care
    Mike

  • @DJCourt83
    @DJCourt83 10 років тому

    did you knew a tun and a but are wine barrels making a but tun 378 U.S. gallons that is a lot of clamps just as well its not the U.K. cos that is 1430 liters don't think even Marc has that many clamps

  • @wdfwgagyfgagyga
    @wdfwgagyfgagyga 10 років тому

    Thats a gorgeous chair!!!

  • @ManhattanWoodProject
    @ManhattanWoodProject 10 років тому +1

    That's incredible, you did an amazing job!

  • @MichaelMakesEverything
    @MichaelMakesEverything 10 років тому

    You mentioned a custom router bit you used. Where did you get that ?
    I loved the build. I'm trying to do Greene & Greene style kitchen cabinets.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      You can pick them up in William's store: shop.wnwoodworkingschool.com/Whiteside-Double-Bearing-Bit-Whiteside-Double-Bearing-Bit.htm

  • @rchopp
    @rchopp 10 років тому +3

    Beautiful chair, almost too nice to use. Thanks for sharing

  • @62ronrod
    @62ronrod 8 років тому +1

    Beautiful chair. great job

  • @anthonyhall9453
    @anthonyhall9453 10 років тому

    Gorgeous! I'm glad you conquered the chair. Thank you for taking us along for the adventure.

  • @markbaker9459
    @markbaker9459 9 років тому

    Way to go ! Nice Chair . Greene Bro.s really had quite a place and eye for woodwork . Some of my early woodworking days put me in touch with their work thru Heartwoodworks in Kohala . ['Hap' Tallman's shop] Now on the disabled list , I have returned to my forebearer's ways . A 'un-plugged world of greatgrandad's of both sides of the family . All I have left of them is some of the tools I've inherited . Image , their work place , their quiet , dust-free work place . Well , I have now the time to rethink my work and safely produce . As I re-hab myself back and hopefully off the 'disabled 'list , your video of this chair gives me more reson to keep pushing myself .
    Mahalo Mark Baker

  • @willford8475
    @willford8475 10 років тому

    I would love do do that course, how much is it? Thanks

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      wnwoodworkingschool.com/blacker-house-inspired-chair-with-william-ng-31012-31712/

  • @thomaslotito380
    @thomaslotito380 5 років тому

    Thanks for sharing your chair experience. Great job.

  • @tristanwilton5777
    @tristanwilton5777 10 років тому +1

    Lovely job.

  • @SL1800
    @SL1800 10 років тому +1

    Gorgeous chair!!

  • @thewoodchickchick1593
    @thewoodchickchick1593 10 років тому

    Incredibly Beautiful! Thanks for showing what you learned.

  • @yodaSarge
    @yodaSarge 10 років тому

    Wow! Took the mystery out of it. Nicely done!

  • @BillyFontaineSYB
    @BillyFontaineSYB 10 років тому

    Absolutely breathtaking design. I love it. Very nice work!

  • @krenwregget7667
    @krenwregget7667 2 роки тому

    William Ng is a master woodworker and fantastic teacher with a great channel on UA-cam. Your chair turned out marvelous and I love the Greene & Greene style.

  • @Spinelicker5
    @Spinelicker5 6 років тому

    I'd guess that that is a $1200 chair! Great job!

  • @joepike3861
    @joepike3861 10 років тому

    Excellent video documentary of your building of this chair. And the result is beautiful.

  • @fannycraddock99
    @fannycraddock99 10 років тому +1

    Beautiful chair. Nothing like this in the UK. Thanks for sharing your experience.

  • @yinn2yang
    @yinn2yang 10 років тому +1

    breath takingly beautiful

  • @vallejokid1968
    @vallejokid1968 10 років тому

    Holy crap Marc. Wow!

  • @Rutce125
    @Rutce125 10 років тому +1

    Wow! Absolutely beautiful. I am amazed, you are truly gifted.

  • @TheRocketbob22
    @TheRocketbob22 10 років тому

    Marc, that chair and the process is truly a woodworkers dream. I know you would love to give your wife a full set of those. I have looked at thousand of pictures of Mission style chairs and never found one that was unique. A couple of years back I came across a Woodworkers Journal of Craftsman Furniture Projects at Books-A-Million. I have built the red oak chairs using their plans, modified to suit me abilities. I think they are nice. Your G&G BHC is just in another league. Congratulations, you have arrived.

  • @TheWoodStroker
    @TheWoodStroker 10 років тому

    Hi Marc, I took your Greene and Greene mirror class at Williams school. There was a fellow student there that had built 6 of these chairs! That impressed me greatly. Excellent video BTW.

  • @mikezelman6395
    @mikezelman6395 10 років тому

    Nice video. A few years back I took a Windsor Chair making class from Mike Dunbar. Learned a tremendous amount of hand tool use from the class; steam bending, specialized planes, fingernail drill bits. It was definitely worth the money, and I ended up with a great chair!

  • @tonymontgomery1033
    @tonymontgomery1033 8 років тому +1

    Looks great. My wife has been after me to build a kitchen table and 6 matching chairs. I am still unsure of my abilities to tackle such a project, but I am starting to think that with the proper planning and careful execution I will be able to accomplish this task. Thank you for the inspiration.

  • @michaelhudak9695
    @michaelhudak9695 10 років тому

    Simply beautiful!

  • @michaelhudak9695
    @michaelhudak9695 10 років тому

    Simply beautiful!

  • @jacquesblais6094
    @jacquesblais6094 10 років тому

    your chair is very beautiful congratulations, you're amazing thanks jacques

  • @Sandhillwoodworks
    @Sandhillwoodworks 10 років тому

    Nice build Mark. It came out great.

  • @BackyardWoodworking
    @BackyardWoodworking 10 років тому

    Wow a lot of woodworking in that chair. Great video
    Thanks Mark.
    Roland

  • @ruthpatton8006
    @ruthpatton8006 10 років тому +1

    Beautiful piece Marc!

  • @Elsureel
    @Elsureel 9 років тому

    Beautiful work, I love the Greene and Greene style.

  • @ejicon3099
    @ejicon3099 4 роки тому

    This build is probably one of my favorites and one of the best videos covering the Blacker House Chair. Well done Marc. My bucket list project is to simply make one of Greene & Greene's sconce. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ecrusch
    @ecrusch 10 років тому

    Exemplary work Marc.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @ltfoley
    @ltfoley 10 років тому

    I've seen you create some beautiful projects, but this was a new level as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to see it when you complete the seat.

  • @worldschaos2181
    @worldschaos2181 10 років тому

    Great job it looks amazing!!

  • @scott98390
    @scott98390 10 років тому +1

    A beautiful piece of work, Marc. Well done.

  • @Monsterputjes
    @Monsterputjes 10 років тому

    Wow! Good job, well done!

  • @ToniKhoury83
    @ToniKhoury83 10 років тому

    This doesn't feel like woodworking to me...felt like an assembly line, but the chair is still stunning.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      That might be because you saw a 12 minute version of what took me about 80 hours to complete. Over half of that time was spent OFF of power tools. It sure as heck felt like woodworking to me! :)

    • @ToniKhoury83
      @ToniKhoury83 10 років тому

      No, sorry my comment came across rude... Unlike many of your other videos which feel like I can go and do right after I watched this one it felt disconnected and that was all I was trying to convey. No offense was intended and like I said thank you for sharing the video and the chair is gorgeous.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      Toni Khoury I completely agree that this video is very much unlike my other videos, and that's intentional. I didn't do the video to show people how to build it as I'm sure William wouldn't have been too happy about that. After all, his school is his livelihood so this video was conditional upon his approval. Remember, I was taking a class here, not teaching one. The video was an added bonus that I was hesitant to do in the first place.

  • @carlosbalchada6576
    @carlosbalchada6576 10 років тому +1

    Great job amazing

  • @mrlifetime64
    @mrlifetime64 6 років тому

    Wow that is fantastic-BEAUTIFUL_ Nice job Mark...!!!

  • @whitewolf8758
    @whitewolf8758 10 років тому +1

    Beautiful chair marc ! I have done alot of reversed engineering with most of my woodworking and its a great challenge and very time consuming process. This is my favorite area of mind creativity. I love working with fine detailed inlay work. Keep up the good work!

  • @larryclement2250
    @larryclement2250 10 років тому +1

    Thank you Marc, the chair is perfect and this was one of the best if not thee best video you have ever made. Again thank you.
    Larry

  • @benvolio1987
    @benvolio1987 10 років тому

    forgive me if this is a contentious point, but why use zillions of powertools and jigs to reproduce a 120 year old chair?
    Surely as a craftsman, you transcend WWing for the sake of aesthetics; part of your connection to the G&G heritage is to build as they built? Otherwise you're just making a facsimile of or an homage to history, rather than a re-creation of it... ?
    I understand you said time was a big factor, but I'd wager the Greene's could spokeshave their stock to the right size before a modern woodworker has even cobbled their jigs together.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому +3

      I honestly don't understand your logic. But the joy of woodworking is that it's a very personal experience. So when you build your projects, you're certainly free to do it however you wish and in whatever way allows you to derive meaning and purpose. For me, using power tools and jigs doesn't detract in any way from the building experience. In fact, they enhance the experience for me.

    • @benvolio1987
      @benvolio1987 10 років тому

      The Wood Whisperer then I wish you all the best, sir.

  • @eln74
    @eln74 10 років тому

    Can't wait to see it finished with the seat, wow Marc that was really fine woodworking, thanksfor sharing!!

  • @clickhere5324
    @clickhere5324 8 років тому

    Thanks for de-mystifying this piece.

  • @mrlifetime64
    @mrlifetime64 6 років тому

    great job- i love the detail-good work

  • @NickEvans72
    @NickEvans72 10 років тому

    Truly beautiful. Something to aspire to methinks!! Thanks for another great video. Look forward to more.

  • @tooljunkie555
    @tooljunkie555 7 років тому +2

    BEAUTIFUL chair and work needless to say..talk about
    "gettn jiggy with it"..lol ;)

  • @youngchoi475
    @youngchoi475 10 років тому

    Is it so difficult to build this beautiful chair as my first project? Just kidding. I am watching you guys videos on iTunes and saw the beautiful house fully furnished with black square joint something (I don't know what it calls) as well. Just amazing!

  • @marceaton3128
    @marceaton3128 10 років тому

    Nice job Marc, I think I will stay away from chairs.

  • @danielgeng2306
    @danielgeng2306 3 роки тому

    Heard you mention the Blacker house chair several times on past wood talk episodes, sooooo this is it huh ? Impressive! Very nice work Marc, I’m also a huge William Ng fan he’s an extraordinary woodworker and has a great sense of humor .

  • @1oftheonez
    @1oftheonez 10 років тому

    As long as I can see the piece ...
    Reverse engineering has never been a problem .
    Even from a photo .
    But true ...when you are dealing with HIGH RISK ventures like this project here ...best to take advice from someone who absolutely knows what they are doing .
    Better yet is to learn from the master .

  • @TheWoodStroker
    @TheWoodStroker 7 років тому

    Hi Marc. Great Video. I took your class building the Green and Green inspired mirror frame there at Willian Ng's school. That Blacker chair is something else. Well done.

  • @EverydayKindaGuy
    @EverydayKindaGuy 10 років тому +7

    Or you could modify Matthias Wandel's Pantorouter with a tilting bed to handle that. Hmmm.. Not a bad idea.

  • @inspectr1949
    @inspectr1949 10 років тому

    Mark, you're the best in your detail and presentations. I'm so envious of your Arizona weather than you can spray outside this time of the year, its still frigid here in the Adirondacks and then when it finally does warm up in June black fly season takes over making for an interesting finish.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      We can have some serious dust and wind around here, but most times of the year we're pretty darn lucky in regards to finishing. I don't envy the flies and snow!

  • @MFunkibut
    @MFunkibut 10 років тому

    Speaking of Mattihas, I'll have to ask him what the metric equivalent is for a butt-ton of clamps.
    Or is that metric already? :)

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      The correct term is "metric butt-ton" I believe. :)

  • @cransky666
    @cransky666 10 років тому

    That is really a beautiful piece, good job. Would love to see an update when you get it upholstered!

  • @CrawfordAutomation
    @CrawfordAutomation 10 років тому

    Please check out Matthias Wandel's Pantorouter. Definately more capable and much less expensive than what they were using.

  • @richardflaherty2373
    @richardflaherty2373 8 років тому +3

    Beautiful chair.
    It has been two years, did you ever finish the seat? Can you update edit this vid with pictures?

  • @jaytomes2856
    @jaytomes2856 10 років тому

    Great build!! Butt ton.... Is that a technical term? I thought I was the only one that used it!!

  • @LanceNYC
    @LanceNYC 10 років тому

    Let us know when you've got that cushion installed! I'm thinking - a burgundy red would look nice.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      Dropped off at the upholsterer today. Says it will be a few weeks. We're actually going with a black color but I agree, burgundy would look nice too.

    • @LanceNYC
      @LanceNYC 10 років тому +1

      The Wood Whisperer Quick photoshop sim: Black dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10423991/CushionBlack.jpg
      Burg:dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10423991/CushionBurg.jpg

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому +1

      Lance Jacobs haha nicely done! I think they both look great!

  • @TableTopPainting101ReddingCa
    @TableTopPainting101ReddingCa 10 років тому

    Beautiful as i said before i love your work. i hope 1 day to have you make me some thing

  • @kristophermarsh9400
    @kristophermarsh9400 6 років тому

    I really enjoy your you tube show, Ive been watching for years. Im not sure why its taken so long to become a guild member but Im very much looking forward to joining. Thanks for all you do.

  • @allseasonsmike
    @allseasonsmike 10 років тому +1

    Marc, I wish I had your talent, the chair is beautiful, I am a fairly new wood worker with very limited tools, I hope to some day have the talent to do some of the work that you do great job. Thanks for all of the great videos.
    Mike

  • @brycetolley3458
    @brycetolley3458 10 років тому

    Hey Mark
    Greetings from Australia, what a cool chair great job

  • @billfromelma
    @billfromelma 10 років тому

    Hey Marc, looks like you have the Green and Green fever. Just got my latest issue of Popular Woodworking . Got a look at the Blanket Chest. Just like this chiar ----- awesome job! Love your videos,keep up the gret work!

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      Thanks Bill. I've had the fever for a while. I think I'm ready for a bit of a break now. :)

  • @mikebarnes2206
    @mikebarnes2206 6 років тому

    I like the chair, although I think it has way too many plugs...
    When I look at your chair, the back seems racked to the left as I look at it. Is this an optical illusion?

  • @xanokothe
    @xanokothe 10 років тому +1

    Really great project! Just out of curiosity, for how much you can sell one of these?

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  10 років тому

      I believe Darrell Peart sells his for about $7000.

    • @xanokothe
      @xanokothe 10 років тому +1

      The Wood Whisperer worthy. A real piece of art.

  • @kirkdockter5093
    @kirkdockter5093 5 років тому

    Where might I purchase the "modified" router bit for trimming the ebony?