Homeworld - The Primary Anomaly
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- With the release of the Dune movie, lets talk about another desert planet on the fringes of space: Kharak. Little did the universe know that a crashed spaceship on this planet would eventually change the galactic landscape.
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00:00 Intro
00:21 Kharak
02:00 The Discovery
04:28 Kiith Gaalsien
07:05 1110 KDS
08:07 Hell's Gate
09:35 The Kalash Site
10:53 The Hand of Sajuuk
11:40 Pursuing the Ashoka
12:43 The Gaalsien Base
14:19 Gaalsien Motivations
15:36 Temple of the Ancients
16:54 The Garaaki Highlands
18:32 Khashar Plateau
19:51 Sidiim Betrayal
20:27 Torin Crater
21:29 Jacob's Sacrifice
22:20 Khar-Toba
23:59 A New Beginning
#homeworld #desertsofkharak #homeworld3 - Ігри
Gaalsien: Nooooo, you can't just go to space, you'll kill us all.
Coalition: Goes to space anyways.
Karak: Is razed years later.
Gaalsien: bruh.
Taidan: Planetary bombardment go brrrrr
@@Mazhura_13B descendants of Higara: Cry havoc and let fly the salvage ships of war! For Kharak!
Taidan Empire: What the OHSAJUKMISTAKESWERREMADE!
Actually Gaalsien: Cough, cough...
Also Gaalsien: Is that right? Well, we sure hope somebody picks up that phone...
*Because we fuckin called it!*
Karak was also destroyed again by hw3, it got hit by a moon ejected the asteroids towards where the new mothership exit.
The sad part is... the Gaalsien were actually right- kind of. Great video. You deserve more views.
True. It gives more weight to the K'had Sajuuk's open display of emotions at the end, as he was flat out begging the S'jet to not continue the course they were on for the Kharakid.
Imho, everyone were right. K'had about fate of Kharak and Jacob with his "salvation lay in the desert", which turned out as the end of the Exile and new era of the Kushan people.
in ther own misguided way true....
though i find it more interesting that this story gives a slightly more 'organic' prospect for the reasons of way ther exiled ancestors did things... like reconfiguring ther sole remaining hardware to make a on one hand indiscriminate ,but effective application of it that flat out denied all possible variations of known long range space travle while they likely where looking into possibilities to at least stabilize the planets environment...without the worry of a 'black ops' fleet pretending to be raiders showing up and 'accidental' accelerating the desertification with some 'sloppy' orbital bombardment ...or just flat out not hiding it genocide ,but then things happened and the city was lost along with the factual history and a lot of advanced education...
sort of a possible novel foundation there... ''the last guardians of kar-toba'' ....as ther anti long range hardware been online for a generation or two..hmm
Yes, but a slow death was the only alternative.
The real sad part is that even though the Gaalsien was somewhat right, there was no choice, Kharak was dying, and the people had no choice but to flee to space, even if it brought the wrath of Sajuuk down on them.
Minor correction: Jacob set the orbital bombardment satellite to fire on anyone approaching the primary anomaly. Which is why the Gaalsien held off until they realized that the S'jet had passed that boundary without being fired upon.
I figured it was because the place was sacred to them.
Great lore overview as always! Cant wait for Homeworld 3 to come out and see your video analysis!
Hell, I can't wait to see what they got in store HW3
I think the most tragic part is, at the time of DoK the Gaalsien don’t seem super evil - but because of their views and their knowledge of the Hiigaran exile they’re pitted against pretty much all of the rest of the ‘good’ kiith. Even with the war, they still slipped information about the Khaaneph to the Northerners, and they were completely genuine in their fear of Sajuuk’s wrath, not just going for some sort of power grab(at least at the time of DoK). In the end their fears were justified, and the measures they took to try and prevent the cleansing of Kharak were understandable too against the threat of total extinction.
Meanwhile the Siidim were basically always assholes, tyrants, and backstabbing snakes. Supremacists who bent parts of their religious views and their culture, then allied with the rest of the rest of the Northerners so they could leech technology off more advanced kiiths, survive, advance, and eventually betray them so they and they alone could ‘ascend’. Everything was about power and status, to them.
You could say the Siidim were based
@@TheSonOfDumb Sure, you could say that. You'd be wrong, but you could say it I guess.
Ironic that the Siidim emblem isn't included on the list of Kiith emblems shown in the end of DoK, *yet the Gaalsien's is.*
One of the tragedies that is subtly hinted at is the Gaalsien may have actually been the leaders during the first time through the exodus. Their symbol is displayed in more prominence in that chamber on Khar Toba, and they clearly had access to privileged information because they were the only Kiith that had even some facts about what happened during the exile. I'd argue it was them who set that hyperspace core up as a defense field around the planet. They could have been the leading Kiith, or the engineers, doesn't matter. Homeworld is great at creating moral ambiguity. "The subject did not survive interrogation" being an excellent (and disturbing) example. While I can't say I blame them after having their civilization murdered, I'd like to think I wouldn't take it that far
The sad thing is, even if the Northern Alliance had abbandoned their spacefaring ways and had allied themselves with Kiith Gaalsien in exchange for their desert survival tech, the population on the planet would have only gained a couple hundred more years at most. The Great Desert was still steadily expanding, due to Kharaks sun slowly reaching its red giant phase, thus the people would have been doomed anyway.
That being said, and as Im thinking about this right now, if they had waited a few more centuries, not only would they have further perfected their salvaged technology, there would have been the chance, albeit slim, that the Taiidan empire could have collapsed on its own. We already know that the burning of Kharak sparked a rebellion within the Taiidan military, as there was wide spread resentment against the emperors increasingly decadent and hostile rulership. Thus an open uprising was all but inevitable.
Had the Kushan waited, there might have been no more empire left that would actually enforce the Hiigarian peace treaty.
But thats all just speculation.....
what i so dearly love about the Homeworld lore is that for all the Gaalsien fear mongering and religiously dogmatic faith and fear of Sajuuk - they were ultimately vindicated.
Sajuuks wrath was wrought upon Kharak for the hubris of the Faagan, and Kharak wept fiery tears in its passing.
Also, FUCK THE SIDIM
As an aside though, it is this lore which brings me back to this series again and again. Whilst i dont play the game as much anymore, i do listen to its soundtracks (Agnus Dei - the vocal arrangement of Addagio for Strings & the battle tracks of Homeworld 2) often
it got great soundtracks...that mix instruments making you think of both dune seas flesh melting heat and at the same time the cold depths and wastness of space..
bit boring how the second game caused some plotholes..makes me care more for home world 1 & deserts of kharrak plots myself to be honest as they at least can be made to 'fit togheter' a bit more.... but the ambiance music from all the games is just.. jewels.
“Fuck the Siidim” That’s an affirmative. The only sound I want to hear out of the Sakala now is her hull exploding.
Paul Ruskay is a master when it comes to the HW series' OST (and also Strike Suit Zero's). We'll be assured that his work on HW3 will be another triumph regardless on how that game ends up.
They were the _most_ correct anyway. My theory is that the Kushan leadership decided, either during the journal to Kharak or before leaving Khar Toba, to encode this crucial warning in religion. It's the only way people will reliably pass information down for millennia. The other possibility is that it was just distorted into religion, because we've seen that in real world history as well. Human nature
Homeworld: Fleet Command launched on kickstarter!
Wonderful as always. This makes me want to fire up Homeworld all over again.
You and dreamlands did such a good job with homeworld
5:57 Those posters are AMAZING. Great video!
The most fun part of the video production process, I almost made way more before I had to remind myself they would've only been on-screen for 5 seconds lol.
Imagine the memes and flamewars on the Kharak internet when they discovered starships in orbit around their planet.
Gotta love this channel for these bits.
@@MacsLore Nice, as soon as I saw this meme fragment, I immediately subscribed😁
21:00 I haven't heard anyone mention it yet but it would appear that since the satellite in orbit was from the Tiidan, I theorize that it was originally sent there by the Tiidan to finish off what was left of the Hiigaran people after getting banished
I'm surprised more people don't think of that as well. Why did the Taiidan just leave a weapons platform over Kharak? The Taiidan wanted to suppress or outright kill the remaining Hiigarans. If it was meant to only suppress them it would probably destroy any centers of progress detected on the world. It was maybe put in place to drive the Kushan into becoming a regressive Gallsian people, any large-scale civilization or technological progress is seen as heresy and inviting the wrath of Sajuuk (Which the space laser would look like to the superstitious people).
Totally. They were still fuming from getting dunked on by the hiigarians generations ago when they found a hyperspace core. The taidans were outmatched at the time
Yes. Many ship wrecks found in the desert were Taiidani also. Their presence is proof that the attack was an ongoing threat, and would not trigger like the Gaalsien feared.
We don't know for sure. Some have said the ship must have tailed the exile fleet, but I don't think so. It is a very modern Taiidan carrier. And while a good ship design can be very long lived, compare that to the frigates that get ripped out of hyperspace and into the planet... I think those probably were Taiidan but of an older design. So my thinking is that carrier was only sent in the past few hundred years. That hyperspace core was wreaking absolute havoc on any ship trying to jump out of the system or even get close to the planet. It's likely the Taiidan said, "Hey wait a minute none of the ships we've sent in the past 3000 years have reported back... we should probably go neutralize this [assumed] threat"
@@jakeg3733I know this is late but do you think that the Ancient Hiigarans messed with the core to make it like a some sort of gravity well generator? Kinda like the last "Fuck you" to anyone who dare to messed and wronged them in the past?
NGL, I still remember my first game-experience few months after it's initial release:
"OMG... not only these Kushans were once exiled in on a perilous journey, they were also 'exiled' from their first city of Khar-Toba?"
Although, frankly, this new lore also changed my gameplay in HWR, like forever... as I am even hesitant to even capture any of them.
Name a series more deserving of a movie than homeworld
A series like battlestar galactica would be awesome.
@@AkeWing series would work better, movies have to rush a lot
Would prefer a TV series too, but when it comes to a gaming series, it would be the Star Wars: X-Wing series of games, particularly with inspiration from both TIE Fighter and X-Wing Alliance.
I want an animated series, I'll make it myself if I had to.
They were Higarans, than kharakians, then Kushan and finally, Higarans again... Lol
By the way, why hasnt anyone thought about doing a series on Netflix or any other about this? Imagine a season 1 on kharak, season 2 with the first mothership and arrival on Higara, season 3 the atack by the vírus Beast and the exile of the Bentusi, season 4 the end time with the three hiperspace cores, the atack by the Vagyr and the discover of the hiperspace network.
Problem is that if Netflix, Amazon or anyone other then... maybe... HBO? got their hands on it, they'd make it outrageously woke. Then go broke. And forever tarnish the brand and IP. I'd rather they just not, then do it half baked and chocked full of a vomit inducing and lore destroying level of woke. House of the Dragon isn't outrageously woke, by today's standards anyway - so that's why HBO gets a solid "maybe." Amazon's take on The Expanse was actually pretty good but they have lost every last ounce of respect and trust (along with over a billion dollars) by way of their LOTR woketastic fiasco.
@@282XVL i agree that The Expanse was a masterpiece! But since it got to Amazon, haevent watched the new seasons.
But yeah, HBO could get their hands on it, and it would be epic!!!
I agree and that brought me to Battlestar Galactica. Which is ironic because HW was originally intended to be set in BSG, but they couldn't secure the rights. They made their own thing that is similar in many ways, but also brilliantly different. It's a compelling story I'd love to see in other media. There's an artist online that could have done a graphic novel. He/she only made two pages, but damn do they capture the _feel_ of two crucial moments in HW. Since the new BSG seems to be in development hell maybe it's time to tell this story on the big screen. I wouldn't want it to be a movie. To really portray the story it would absolutely need to be at least a miniseries, preferably a full series
@@282XVL I want to disagree but it's hard. Things seem to be getting _slightly_ better in that department because all these supposed "masterpieces" (per the ultra-PC critics) have been near universally derided by us normal folks, aka the ones who pay for them. We'll know in the next 5-10 years whether this was just another PC phase in the western world, or the trajectory of entertainment for the next 100 years. The far left tried this shit in the 1990s and it rightfully got so much pushback it was abandoned for the next few decades. Hoping that's the case here too
I'm always happy to see Homeworld content! It being my favorite series of games, I'm really happy to see that your videos do it justice!
after watching dune, I reinstalled H:DOK so I could replay it again. couldn't get enough of the desert scifi
the only thing in all of Homeworld that hasn't been solved would be... who are the progenitors?
Fingers crossed HW3 answers that.
Thank you for the HW-videos - I am currently running a Homeworld (2d20) Revelations campaign and these videos help me and the players a lot to dive into Homerworld´s setting...
I have had Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak on my wishlist since late 2017, waiting on the game to go on sale.
It's still sitting on my wishlist, because of this.
Or just don't be poor.
Delightfull this has to be the most consummate game play I've seen in a great many years a joy to watch.
Regards
Ey glad to see you posting, really love your work! Oh and if you do more Homeworld, hope you do the War of the Beast later on, that's my favorite story of the Homeworld games!
Definitely, but I'm going to do the series in chronological order, so HW1 will be up next. But it might not be for awhile since I'm still concerned how much Homeworld Revelations, or HW3 might retcon from the first 3 games.
Wow what a quality channel. I’ve found a Homeworld lore gem! I can’t get enough of this stuff.. your work here is absolutely awesome. Thank you so much!
Oooh I greatly enjoyed this! I hope you make a whole series about the Homeworld franchise!
Slowly but surely, that is the long-term plan.
Another great one dude, keep it up! Homeworld is an absolute gem, I remember playing HW2 back in 2003 when it came out and being blown away by the beautifuly design and story
This is FANTASTIC work. The audio quality and production value are on a level I would expect from at 400,000 sub channel, not at 4000. Keep this up and I have no doubt whatsoever that you'll be at or past 100k in a year.
This has been one of my favorite titles of all time and even now still replay it from the beginning. The lore of this game to this day still astounds me how well thought out it was, no surprise that they got the inspiration from George Lucas. These videos are amazing as always keep up the great work and hope to see more great vids soon
It really is kind of nuts how in-depth the lore is. Hell, even I got surprised a few days ago when I found the old Homeworld Cataclysm site on web archives and there was even *more* lore stuff.
@@MacsLore Yeah Cataclysm was really a hard one to get through but those miners really proved themselves on the battlefield qhen the stakes were so high
Hmm, what web archives are they, and where should I find them?
I recently found out that they brought in a real archeologist as a consultant. Makes a lot of sense because whoever wrote this lore knew how these situations work IRL. The kind of distortion and mission creep that occurs over very long periods of time. 4000 years is a long time, even if the Kushan were longer lived than us (probably not though, they seem essentially human)
BBI certainly doing more with lore based on DoK than was done with HW2’s rushed production. Excited for HW3…
Love the posters lol.
Sajuuk smiles upon you for the support of his message.
21:07 that's a badass edit. Also great transition to the iconic music at A New Beginning.
6:06 I legit started giggling maniacally. Sajuuk's love is forever.
Great work. I'm looking forward for Homeworld 3.
Wow, this is masterful.
Keep making these, please.
I've started to watch your videos and are all well done and interesting. I love Homeworld universe.
I decided to subscribe. Thank you for your work. 👍
I've had this game for yrs and always played the AI skirmishes, but finally got around to finishing the campaign yesterday. Good story and love how this gives more back story.
20:58
That gave me goosebumps..
Something that I don't think gets discussed enough is that massive hyperspace core. A lot of people have said that it was malfunctioning, but I disagree. I think that the last engineers to leave Khar Toba knew exactly what they were doing and configured it to create a no-go zone in the space surrounding Kharak, to protect the planet and harvest advanced technology. It was deliberately messing with any ships trying to either explore the planet or harm the people on it by redirecting their jump coordinates to inside the planet or just pulling them out of orbit and smashing them on the surface with it's "wake generator". You could argue that it saved the Kushan, because otherwise the Taiidan orbital weapon would probably have been used to kill them quietly. Since none of the ships sent reported back (probably) they eventually gave up and focused on other things
If you've watched Stargate (Atlantis specifically) there's an early episode that deals with this. Dr. McKay sums it up pretty well: The Wraith stopped attacking this village because none of their technology works there, even their aircraft just get swatted out of the sky by an EM field setup long before. Same principle here
I am using this lore into my D&D campaign and tying it to Astral space and the war between the Githyanki and Illithids. Now we have a HW3 release date!
taidan broke the so called peace treaty long before the mothership made the hyperspace jump.
the exiles where to be left alone after being kicked to the curb of the galaxy and yet the taidan had a ton of ships crashed on Kharak due to the hyperspace core being set to gravity well mode, so Kharak being bombarded was just way out of line by that point anyway.
I have a cool homeworld pin on my work backpack
The Homeworld Lore is amazing!!
Your voice is great for this.
Top tier video, Mac.
It's been a long time since I played Deserts of Kharak. Genuinely amazing story and game.
God those Gaalsien ads….makes u almost believe that they had a sorta meme culture like us
DAMN....Realization
Torin Crater was a warning.....Before the story HW1 is unfold
Loved the video 🔥👍
I found this to be personally epic
Watching this after MandaloreGaming gave the game justice. It's not a perfect game, but I will say this, Deserts of Kharak is the best Homeworld game since Cataclysm/Emergence.
The hyperspace core being an *extremely powerful* inhibitor sure irks me a lot, though. Its implications of it being that damned magical Hyperspace Core just makes me groan.
I'm no expert, but wouldn't an expedition that far into the desert be best utilized with aircraft? Or at least painting the vehicles white or chrome to keep as much heat from being absorbed as possible?
Aircraft engines are rather inefficient, and they cannot resupply themselves unlike the carrier which relies on CUs and RUs to repair and refuel.
That was a really good video !
I feel like I was blueballed the moment I noticed you never mentioned anything of the Guidestone or even the single word written on it: 'Hiigara'.
Home.
Great breakdown though!
This was great. Thanks.
The Gaalsien got a few details wrong, but they were technically right. The contents of the treaty signed between the Hiigarans and the Taiidan were turned in to myth and legend as time passed, and Kharak would be destroyed in a firestorm once the Kharakiid violated it (albeit unknowingly).
While the saga of the exiled Hiigarans would eventually end on a happy note, a lot of sacrifices were made along the way.
I played Homeworld when it originally came out and brought remastered when it was released but for some reason, I only picked up Deserts 2 weeks ago!. What a game I love it! May actually be slightly better then the originals.
Awesome channel!
Amazing video sir. Pls keep going. Liked and Subed.
What Ive always been confused about after playing DOK is what happened to the crews of the ships that got pulled in or crash landed
5:59 Nice posters.👀👀
Awesome
5:57 is hilarious!
Gaalsiens knew the truth
From a certain point of view.
The naming convention of the HW series makes my head spin. I can't keep track of who is who.
Kiith = tribe
Kiith-Sa = tribe leader
Gaalsien = religious fundamentalists
Siidim = religious supremacists
S'Jet = scholars and scientists
Naabal = political leaders and diplomats
Somtaaw = Mining and engineering (also Beast Slayers, but that comes later)
Hraal = economics and industrialism
Soban = mercenary warriors
Plus several other minor kiith that don't matter much in the main story.
Sajuuk = the name of the God of their religion. The Gaalsiens believe that everyone were put on Kharak by Sajuuk to suffer. The Siidim believe that they were once the chosen people of Sajuuk and placed on Kharak as punishment for a grave sin, but every other kiith are just dirty kharak-born and are fundamentally unclean. In the past, these two factions had a great big holy war over who was God's chosen people. The war ended when Naabal rose up with the other oppressed kiith and stomped them both.
@@augustday9483 wow. Thank you
The sad thing about Gaalsien was that they were correct.
oh wow. the propaganda posters at 6:00 are amazing XD
So the taiidan went to Kharak and tried to blow it up but failed?
It's never directly stated in Deserts or elsewhere, but yeah that seemed to be the case. I guess Ol' Riesstiu wanted to commit a quick in-and-out genocide on his longtime enemies while the Galactic council had it's backs turned.
I was thinking they could have set up the platform to monitor them alonside the carrier in case they Kharakid did something warranting the beam cannon blast but the carrier was pulled into the planet and crashed so they could have activated it when they needed to cause who knows how long that platform or the carrier was deployed there
@@captainandros Yeah they could have easily set it to shoot down anything trying to leave the planet, or maybe even enter orbit, presumably the carrier was pulled down before they could program it.
Its my head cannon that they sent a force a long time ago, but the Hiigarans were able to fight it off using the hyperspace core as some kind of defense. It explains all the wreaks in orbit and also suggests that it is that misuse of the core that is directly causing the expanding desert. The fact the core is in the 'hart' of the desert and that was where the refugees first chose to settle compared to a more suitable location supports this idea imo.
@@TheNzFox no? Lore deliberately states the core malfunctioned and as a result the first city had to be abandoned they also did not possess the ability to produce starships as the prison ships were primitive further more the game literally has a few cutscenes where unsuspecting fleets kept trying to course through kharak only to be teleported within the planets crust the carrier could’ve been the taidans response to eliminate the annoying anomaly and gave up and decided to ignore it all together when the carrier crashed
i bought homeworld 2 and the prequel but have yet to finish either which is a shame.
15:17 anyone else notice the combined Hiigaran/Taidan design?
It's interesting that Gaalsien actually adapted. While the Coalition were loosing ground to the sand, Gaalsien actually seem to survive just fine, even growing in numbers and technology advancements. Maybe Kharak wasn't dying for everyone after all...
They cheated using space faring level tech found in the grounded starships though.
Gaalsien might have been right, but the subject did not survive interogation.
Kharak is burning
Fark i can't follow any of this due to the names of the things, every time I think I got it, the icons are different lol
The scripture the gaalsiens used was probably a copy of the 4000 year old treaty mentioned in home world 1
19:17 are these official? xD
They should be, their pulled from the game and the Expedition guide.
I wonder how did they eventually get back since their supplies were destroyed?
Probably more flyers, with maybe surprising news of one or two Carriers actually surviving and then relieving the main force.
Who's this Keith guy he keeps talking about in the first 2 minutes? It's Keith a Kiith?
Wow. I knew none this.
great summary, game wasn't good in narrate this story xd btw concept of fail wrap and crash inside planet is awsome
Great content! One question: Why did the people of Kharak not know their real origins in the first place?
The short answer that's also most canonical is: They forgot.
Longer, less canon answer: Much of the knowledge of their past was most likely lost in the migration from the Khar-Toba to the north. The destruction wrought by the Heresy Wars afterwards probably destroyed the rest of it.
Time, the greatest enemy of knowledge
I still don't understand how the ships endend undersand and how the Taiidan appeared, anyone can explain?
The Hyperspace core was malfunctioning(?) and kept pulling ships that got too close to Kharak and remateralizing them on/under the surface. The real question is, why were the Taiidani that close to the planet? They most likely were trying to either check up on the Kharakid, or quickly genocide them while no one was looking.
@@MacsLore I suspect genocide since that was their initial alternative to slavery.
@@MacsLore my headcanon was since a lot of the wrecks on kharak especially the kalash site aren’t taiidan affiliated they sent the carrier to deploy the weapon to get rid of the anomaly causing the incidents and gave up when the carrier failed
It wasn't malfunctioning, it was deliberately tampered by the ancient Hiigarans as a form of spite, I guess.
Spoiler - the Gaalsien were right
Those sand loving Gritiidim? No way.
I guess right as in staying within the planet. Considering what happened to their people after the usage of hyperspace core.
Well, kinda. But the planet was dying so its not like they could have stayed in Kharak indifinetely. So following the Gallsien advice, no one would have survived in the end, whereas by going into space, at least 600000 were spared.
@@igorokinamujika2073 yeah you are right, what I find interesting too is the hiigarans being the baddies back before the exile, it would interesting if they explored that a bit in the new game coming out, maybe the Hiigarans will become corrupted again since there isn't really a power that can oppose them after the taiidan and vagyr
@@richhogg8074 Well, technically they still were less evil than the Taiidan. They limited the destruction to millitary buildings and the imperial palace. And they didn't intend to exterminate the Taiidan. Whereas the Taiidan wanted to kill and/or enslave all the Hiigarans.
I never understood how they could forget almost all technology in such a short time and have to "restart"🤦🏻♂️
The desert consumes all.
I think it was due to the attack on their city by the carrier which lead to the desert expansion causing the survivors to abandon the ruins.
It was 4000 years for the record we were in a medieval age for about 1000 or more years
5 billion is not that old for a planet specially when you emphasize the word ancient
Depends on it's star. 5 billion could be very old indeed if it is around a short-lived star that gets hot and heavy early and starts scorching it. Actually Earth will start to get its oceans cooked off around the 5-5.5 bn year mark as our sun ages and moves towards red giant phase.
So in an other 1 billion to 1.5 billion years?
Kiith siidiim did nothing wrong