I Fell In Love With a Baikal
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2021
- It happened.... I found a Russian gun that I liked (loved)!
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just for you to know Johnny, TOZ is NOT Baikal. TOZ (Tulskii Oružeinõi Zavod) factory is in Tula, Baikal (IŽMash) factory is in Iževsk and they are totally different companies with totally different gun designs. I do own a TOZ-34 and I still hunt with it. Have been born in Soviet Union, now in EU and working in a gun shop. There are plenty of TOZ and IŽ (Baikal) guns here so you can trust my knowledge
I know, it’s just an ongoing joke that all
Russian guns are baikal and all baikal guns are rubbish! 😂
@@tgsoutdoors:D I agree about Baikal guns except maybe IŽ-12
In the days of the USSR and the state monopoly on foreign trade,the export of hunting rifles was carried out by the All-Union Foreign Trade Association "Raznoexport", which had the trademark "Baikal". Therefore, this brand can be both on the guns of the Izhevsk Mechanical Plant(IZH), and on the guns of the Tula Weapons Plant (TOZ).
@@tgsoutdoors Baikal was the main exporter for a number of years. Kind of like Stoeger being a big "importer" in North-American.
- Personally, TsKIB SOO are my favortite Russian shotguns.
@@tgsoutdoors Well, if you didn't show TSKIB, then you didn't show anything. TSKIB is comparable in level to Purdey and Holland
I used to shoot a Baikal in the late 80s that my friend owned. It was a no frills gun, but it shot really well and I had more success with that gun, than one`s worth a lot more money.
Nobody can fault the care that has gone into that shotgun , I think anyone should be pleased to be out in the field carrying it . Thanks for showing , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
I have been shooting a Russian TOZ-34 EP for the last 33 years now, it is simple, reliable, and durable.
I`ve shot hundreds and hundreds of chukars, ducks,rabbits, and foxes...
It is one of the best shotguns has ever been made.
Hahaha! "All Russian guns are Baikal!". "Baikal, Baikal, Baikal, Baikal". That clip always gets me bro! 🤣
nope. we also got Saiga, Vepr, Los', Belka and Sobol'. Quite a choice, isn't it? greetings from Russia!
@@yummyKFCstuff And don't forget: Orsis! Really good and nice rifles!
And, in my opinion, the soul of Russian arms manufacturing, the Mosin three line rifle!
I've been using a converted one for hunting for some time! Robust, reliable, easy to use and beautiful in its own unique way!
Greetings from Germany
this gun toz 34 e
tthis gun is very strong
Вообще в России ещё есть МЦ, точнее были, великолепные ружья, не побоюсь этого слова, мирового уровня, но ныне их уже не производят, а жаль...
would love to see some more holts reviews! very nice
One of his best reviews!!
I love my Baikal won many of clay shoot with it
46 out of 50
shot the highest partridge on beaters day with it and shot 3 pigeons the very first 3 shots I had with it
when I paid the large sum of £70 for it as a non ejector then turn the screw in the barrels a presto a full ejector and as never Failed to go bang when I pull the trigger unlike my best gun I paid hell of a lot for
Do not forget that all Russian guns have interceptors, but on inexpensive Italian guns and on Turkish ones there are none. Safety is the most important thing!
Thnx for the video....watching it with some popcorn
Truly stunning. A timeless beauty with curves in all the right places. You really see those subtle touches of class that set it above the competition. You would turn heads with one of these over your arm.
The gun’s not bad either.
That tune at the end is cool
Baikal's are also one of my favorite! I buy everyone I can find.
That looks a nice piece of kit and would be a talking point at clay grounds i know.
A very nice shotgun. A lot of time went into that style. I like it
“I do not hate all Russian guns, this one is nice” 🤣 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 As a matter of fact I had two Toz 34E, very nice wood, usually when they come in the box they tend to have a couple of spare “v pins??” since they are prone to break, unlike maybe the spring izh 27. And the ejectors, well, not that reliable. But truth be told I loved how it handled the weight distribution was great. 👀 though wasn’t able to hit any freaking flying target with mine...
Beautiful. Would love one!
I love my "utility" Baikal O/U 12ga. It is an MP27M and has removable chokes. 28.5" barrels with vent rib. Also Baikal marked ventilated recoil pad. Double triggers and extractors. Nice straight grain walnut. Chrome-lined bores. What more could you want?
Now thats a purty baikal
That's a nice looking gun, but all baikal's even their cheaper models are a solid excellent gun as you can go out in all weather put them down on the ground and just treat them like a tool and you ain't to worried about the scratches etc as they are cheap and does the job, but some can be a bit heavy from some users but then they absorb the recoil well you can't really fault them as built like a tank.
Beautiful!
Reminds me of a piece of Balinese furniture ..... That you can shoot things with!!
Très beau fusil . Il y en a de quoi tomber amoureux. Et en plus c'est du solide .
"In Soviet Russia, gun shoots you!"
😂 haven’t heard that in years
))) By the way, it is worth noting that in the USSR, crime with civilian weapons was minimal, and in the hands of citizens there were millions of hunting barrels, in the best of times, double-barreled guns could be bought from the age of 18 with a passport in a rural store...
@@olegkrikunov5218 Don't get me started on the "In glory days of Soviet Union" sketch...as then I'll have to watch The Death of Stalin again and crack up every time Marshal Zukov appears...In all seriousness though I don't doubt you're right - the problems were never with the civilians but with (as Yakov Smirnoff riffed off but did not originate) the State. Stay safe
i have over and under 308 top barrel top barrel shots clover leaf at 60 m best scrub gun, just fun
I have TOZ 34 shtuchnoye produced in 1990 quite funny one,but works well for bird hunting.
The TOZ isn’t as good as a Baikal because there’s no long bolt to secure the stock to the receiver. If you tighten the trigger guard screws to pinch the loose stock more firmly it changes the geometry of the internals, sears etc,and the gun won’t function right.
I don't give a TOZ, I love it.
Jonny while you at holts can you ask them to take more than one picture for most of their lots. It realy lets them down compared to other cheaper auctions. i know you can speak to them and they can send extra photosbut just seems like a massive waste of time for all. Awesome vid glad you found an awesome russian gun you like i like a lot of them.
They do have a great deal of photos of main sale items. The sealed bid runs to 4000 lots, not sure that taking more than one photo during cataloguing is a wise time investment for them. I’m sure they will read your comment, but I shall ask the question all the same.
@@tgsoutdoors Thanks Jonny I know its a lot of lots but when you cant get their to view either distance or covid it just makes bidding more comftable as you know what you are getting if you win. Also huge thank you for everything you do to promote shooting in the uk and your channel.
You have to see the MTS 9 and 11 russian shotguns, amazing
Too bad you could not take it apart. The action uses a highly unique main spring style that I have never seen on any other gun.
I think it is lovely.
It would be really cool if you pronounced it with the stress on the last syllable: baikAl (this is how it is actually pronounced and it is a name of the biggest fresh water lake in Russia)
Also, the model you were reviewing is an "gift" edition of TOZ-34R. The same gun with less elaborate engravings is just around 300 GBP brand new :) - tozarms.com/catalog/gladkostvolnoe_oruzhie/toz_34r/ (a similar to what you were reviewing is around 800 GBP - tozarms.com/catalog/gladkostvolnoe_oruzhie/toz_34-podarochniy/ )
Finally, if you really want to assess what the modern Russian shotgun is, look at TOZ'es LT-5334 ( tozarms.com/catalog/gladkostvolnoe_oruzhie/lt_5334/ ), that gun is around 3,000 GBP and is designed for modern sport disciplines.
Iz or Toz iz like Ford T. But it is UaZ car. Never made you angre even when it not start. But iz or toz always works. You can fall to the water whe hunting. Just drop water drops. Pull the trriger and have duck or goose for diner.
Jonny you should contact Tim at Countryways Gunship in West Malling Kent. He has the exact same gun for sale if not a little more engraving on the stock.
I am not from USA how can i contact with tim of countryways gunship to buy the baikal? Please respond
@@saqibhasan8479 Check their site countrywaygunshop.co.uk/
@@richardcranston1833 thanks a lot bro
Please put the guns names in the description for us who are new to shooting
Old TOZ shotguns are highly appreciated in Hungary. They shoots really good. Most well know and available models are the external hammer side by sides here (TOZ-63, TOZ-66 and maybe the last external hammer model, the TOZ-54 - no logic in numbering I know).
I don't know how will we use these old guns when all lead shot will be banned by the EU's politicians (UK out of the EU now so you may have or will have different regulations)... :/
TOZ vs IZH: the TOZ guns are somewhat more delicate guns and IZH are somewhat more rugged, generally speaking. But both are well liked, I mean the old ones, especially from the Soviet era (no room for reject back than).
I nearly choked when I saw LOVE AND BAIKAL in the same sentence
Me too!
@@drumhd1 🤣
Oh! My tragedy.
I have the same. I've been owning it for several years when I realized that the stock doesn't fit for me. It is bent too much down. But I cannot instal any adjustable cheek riser, cause I'll spoil figured wood. Shooting and crying...
Yes, but will it bang in a fence post?
You fell in love with a Baikal .. gotta be the best clickbait in the guns world lol ... I have one btw
Its nice how dasit handle balance ?
This is TOZ-34.
I know 😊
So, did I see correctly - is this action a cross of the Superposed locking and Cynergy hinge systems?
Синерджи стали выпускать на 40 лет позже ТОЗ-34. Смотрите en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOZ-34 и en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynergy_Shotgun . Раз вас так интеревует устройство тульского ружья, то вот вам его инструкция для пользователя disk.yandex.ru/d/tdvxncvtinVWA .
Current production in TOZ is of a very low quality. The one shown is called Suvenirnoye produced in USSR. Cost about 1 to 1,5 USD in Russia. If you come across shot guns produced by Tula TSKIB, called MC(МЦ in Russian) during USSR times, they are very very good. They are really cream of the cream not TOZ.
🔥🔥 🔥👍👍👍
You missed a great like “the creme de la Kremlin” would’ve been amazing
Officially stealing that line
@@tgsoutdoors you're welcome to it! Love your shows... I've been shooting since i was 7 on and off and i love that your videos make it more accessible to younger people.
Looks BRNO made.
Who are you and what did you do with Jonny?
Seems you’re friendlier to this “Baikal” than you are to the German shotguns, despite it being very Germanic stylistically. Dare I say you’re branching out?
Totally agree! Soviets have stolen gun makeing factories and few engineers from Shul after WW2... Scenes on german guns show us preferred object of hunting with that particular gun. This TOZ 34 is universal, it kills elks, ducks and woodcocks as well as pubic lice... Also scenes with elks remind me "старый бабушкин коврик с оленями". Just google it in images, find inspiration for engraver
@@Path_MMP You are shamelessly lying about the "Soviets have stolen factories" account. The USSR, on a legal basis, along with the United States of America, Great Britain and France, received its share of reparations after the Second World War, as compensation for the destruction and losses inflicted on us by Nazi Germany.
By the way,TOZ is NOT a Baikal as it is a Different company based in Tula.
We know, It’s an ongoing joke between us here
A question! Why is this gun the cheapest on the market?
Has mr Carter whacked a cheeky bid in ??
Not sure I could afford the winning bid on this one Suburbia
Это очень-очень-очень хороший дробовик Джонни
I heard if Jonny Carter touches a Baikal it automatically doubles in price.
Usually not a big ask
Of all the guns at Holts this is the one you decided to drool over?
😂 just the first
Приятно было посмотреть, послушать, всегда интересно узнать мнение человека сведущего из другой страны, спасибо!
Среди друзей и знакомых ТОЗ-34 пользуется устойчивой популярностью на протяжении многих лет и это не смотря на нашествие турок и огромный выбор прочих ружей со всего мира. На охоте ТОЗы зарекомендовали себя отлично, как и на спортинге.
Ha!
🦆
TOZ 34 ?
Got to admit holts doesn’t have as much for sale this auction compared to last time
Really 🤨 they have heap!
@@tgsoutdoors I went on there upcoming sales page and it seemed a lot less than last time (sealed bid auction) it might just be I only found 1 this time I’m prepared to bid on v 4/5 last time but be interesting to see if the number of items is less
@@tgsoutdoors I’ve just relooked and they have put tons more on than when I last looked so I stand corrected lol
I think the biggest sealed bid to date
@@tgsoutdoors I’m actually working my way through it now I’ve favourited 8 things so far must say I hate these sealed bid ones
Mother Russia make things )))
What price of this shotgun?
£800-£1200 in the June 2021 Holts Auction
@@tgsoutdoors thenk you.
Would love it more if it had more birds in it as opposed to the deer
Might be wrong but I believe rifled firearms were hard to own for civilians. Hence smoothbores were used as all rounders. The furred game embellishment is probably therefore completely appropriate. I have a number of very clever Russian 12g slug molds that make effective 60-70m loads out of a cylinder bore 12g.
Thing looks one notch above a old Pakistani gun to me.
Blia@ it is toz 34! Not iż!
VOSTOK MU8 say no more
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but to me it’s way over done.
I agree.
#proud153owner.
Gentleman the gun that I see in your hand is not a baikal, it is rather Tula.These guns are beautiful like western guns but not as much durable like baikal.
It’s more of an ongoing joke that every Russian gun is a baikal
Not to my taste but have seen worse wood-to-metal fit on MUCH more expensive guns decorated in the British style. Nonetheless, I'd probably buy one just to have something different, solid and dependable. But I wonder why they chose to engrave big mammals on a shotgun rather than animals more consistent with its use.
Very likely that it was used with slug or with a set of rifle barrels
@@tgsoutdoors Are slugs for big game popular in Russia? Didn't think about fitting the action with rifle barrels...or, perhaps, a combination gun. The mind reels.
As one of the commentators already wrote, in those days in Russia it was virtually impossible to own a rifle. So, they used smooth bores for everything, and that's why you've got a moos and other bigger animals engraved.
@@solidrib Makes sense, but this is now. That gun does not seem to be very old. However, I don't know the production history of the company.
@@wholeNwon Hello there! TOZ 34 is made even today, but this particular gun is made pre 1974 or so..(I am not sure about the exact year but it is mid 70'). The TOZ 34 guns made after that year are different in a way how they get disassembled. Post 74' guns have a small lever on a right side of the action fence. When the gun needs to be disassembled, that small lever needs to be pushed into downwards position, than the triggers are pressed , gun is opened and split apart.
Why not? I owned two of them, one Over and under for sport shooting and the next , a Side by side for hunting. No problems. The Russian engineers and gunsmiths are not dumber as the Americans. Tula (TOZ) is a factory with one of the most tradicionally knowhow worldwide since 1712 (Zar Pjotr Pjerwui) I knew some of engineer s and gunsmiths personally. In pretty contrary I had a Savage BBF I regret bought. Shame on my head. But since nearly 20 years is a bad service for the so called Baikal. Any years ago I inherate some old style Merkels. If not, I'm using my Baikails untill today...
This would have probably been a gun for a member the intelligentsia (in effect the Soviet "middle class") for sure. Like a mechanical engineer let' say.
Average rural peastant or urban proletariat probably wouldn't have been able to afford this.
That being said, the old USSR/CCCP single shot Baikal guns are pretty great. As are the old ZH series Brno guns.
“I do not hate all Russian guns, this one is nice” 🤣🤣🤣 This particular gun is not usual soviet gun. This is "best gun" from Tula, the best, that they could made. Rusians call this class of guns "visoky rozbor". Literally it means "high disassembling". So, try to feel all irony. Stock hawe no checkering. Why? Because russian stockers does not know how to make it properly. Wood beauty is far away from "best quality" Also engraving is not the best example of that era.
Finally, I can't find any reason even to show this highly disassembled gun on this channel, rather than to say "I love this gun".
Ever heard of МЦ? These guns are worth tens of thousands even today and were made for party officials by hand. They're actual bespoke shotguns. Ian McCallum has a video on the МЦ made for Khruschev.
I heard about "ЦКИБ СОО" which crafted series of gun models called "МЦ". Even about its father "ШОМ". My friend is owner of few МЦ. See his MC 11 on this video: ua-cam.com/video/K6Fb1a3U_wQ/v-deo.html Early MC models were made as demonstration of soviet mastery of copy. But... They have russian spirit, as made in "axe and chizel" style. Now ЦКИБ СОО is dead. All masters left Russia in hungry 90's
Nie. Nie wszystkie. Ale. Mam to szczescie, że akurat taty strzelba to baikał :) sam mam boka iż 27, suhl fortuna i brno s/s ;) i najlepiej strzela mi się z gruzu ojcowskiego :) ♡♡♡
Привет из Казахстана! У меня есть такое же ружье!
Байкал это отстой ToZ тоже !!!
Если оружие не бракованное, подошло вам по антропометрии и вы подобрали подходящий патрон, то на охоте и спортинге вы мало будете отставать от тех кто стреляет из беретты, да и то отставание возможно будет связано с вашими стрелковыми навыками. Мы как-то с знакомыми сравнивали наши дробовики и ТОЗ-34 обошёл всех по кучности, равномерности и резкости боя, а ведь в сравнении участвовали ружья моложе на 30-40 лет от бинелли, беретты, браунинга...