The Royal Hong Kong Police | British Colonial Police Force [Podcast Ep. 2]
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Gunfights with criminals wielding Chinese AK47, grenades, capturing illegal immigrants, spies on the high seas, and fighting terrorists... Her Majesty's Royal Hong Kong Police did it all. (as a tiny British Colony before 1997).
Before the 2019 pro-democracy protests and before Hong Kong returned to China in 1997, the Royal Hong Kong Police was renowned as the finest police force in Asia.
We spoke with Police Constable Wong, a former RHKP officer who served on the city police and rural/border police force.
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Is the podcast going to be available on Spotify?
@@emkro thanks for giving us a heads up on this! It's on spotify now.
I can think of 90s HK police without thinking of Jackie Chans Super Cop!!!
I enjoyed this so much!! Would you be interested in doing a similar podcast with a someone who served in the Taiwanese military police in the 70's? Lots of Korean/Vietnam Era weapons were adopted.
We did a port of call in HK in 1993 while on a WESTPAC float in the Marines. The command made it very clear that the police in HK do not put up with shenanigangs. Many Marines and sailors found out the hard way.
I was in HK 94-98. I imagined myself being a police officer back then. They were professional, very well liked. Sure their reputation was poor during the 70s and before, but that was before my time. Goes to show how things can change for the better.
And I should shut up about my identity and past, but this one I think is appropriate. 多謝陳Sir，黃Sir。香港加油
My Father's story of the RHKP. 1974. He had just left the Royal Marines, was sitting in a lunch room at the dept store he worked, In Stirling, Scotland. Reading a newspaper, a story about corruption in the RHKP, his boss leans over and says "thats terrible, all those whores, drugs and money in Hong Kong, its terrible!" My Dads response. "That sounds great!". My Dad RHKP officer 1975-2005. Worked, PTU, Traffic, Border, HQ and many more. I was born and raised like you Henry in HK, however, my perspective as a British person might have been different. I learned alot about respect from my dad and the men he worked with. Describing living near the border in HK to people in the UK or US, I tell them. It was like living with the cold war until 1997.
This is the first time I’ve heard of police corruption in Hong Kong. Here in Indonesia, it’s so abysmal even our bureau against corruption has corrupt people. Thanks for inviting the Constable for this great episode.
Corruption cease to exist in Hong Kong Police after 1974. The police citizen relation was so damn good since then before they decided to brutally crush the pro-democracy demonstration in 2014.
Like Henry, I grew up in HK in the early 90s, before moving to the US. My dad was in the RHKP until 1997, before he retired and joined us in the US. When I was born, my family was living on the grounds of Police Cadet School, where my dad was an instructor.
I'm living in Hong Kong and it's sad to see how it change in recent years.
Thanks for making this video Henry, it's a great video about the good old Hong Kong.
HKer🤘🏻
My family friends fled from Hong Kong in the early 90's, fearing the CCP would break the agreement and invade. Here in London, there have been lots of HK citizens moving here since the takeover
As a man living in Hong Kong since 2014 till now, I actually felt safer in recent years, all the rioters were stopped, the city of Hong Kong is back to normal, Business activites are back to normal, no more black mask ppl blocking the road, blocking the subway, burning stores and cars, and even they blocked Hong Kong International airport, but all that chaos are now gone thx for the Hong Kong police force doing their job like they always have been regardless before or after 1997.
Even in France or in the US or any where else around the world, If ppl are putting up a riot, OF COURSE the police have to come out and stop the riot, right!!??🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♀️ and when the police are clashing with rioters, OF COURSE it’s gonna look like a mass scale fist fight, just look at the LA riots in 1992 and the recent BLM riots accross the US.
@@josedorsaith5261 And mean while a lot of Hong Kong business men made them self a huge amount of wealth by doing business with CCP market, some people see crisis, and some see opportunities.
@@OO-mf1fc …yes I agree with you violent protests should be violently put down. Purposely blocking traffic and transportation hubs is wrong and self-defeating. And I’m sure personal freedoms did not erode at all? People can say/write/demonstrate whatever they want politically with no legal repercussions, memorials of past events were not taken down, education remains apolitical and objective and HK history has not been rewritten or censored. Thank god the opposition failed right?
In 1979, I was a Survey Officer with the Hong Kong Government. I was one of around 15 surveyors headed by a New Zealand surveyor to carry out a trilateration survey of the whole Hongkong territories. This precise survey network allows the Masstransit underground railway to be built in many sections over Hong Kong and be joined together precisely underground. For three months straight, we used the helicopters from the Royal Hong Kong Police Force to transport us to all the mountain tops for survey duties. The high power radios from the British Army that can communicate 50 to 60 km across Hong Kong and with the helicopter etc. We all worked for one government, for the progress of Hong Kong. Later, I was seconded to the Housing Department for a few years because they needed land surveyors for rapid building of low cost housing before they can set up their own section.
The more I hear or read about Hong Kong in the 80s and 90s the more I am fascinated, from tales of the Kai Tak Airport to the Kowloon walled city.
Btw, I really recommend the book "Kai Tak - The World's Most Fascinating Airport" from Gianfranco Beting.
Now it all bullozed by red bloody communist China. Hong Kong was a crown jewel back in the day. Macau was pretty good as well.
Raised in Hong Kong in the 60's. Came to the US in 1975. The 60's were the most interesting and chaotic times in Hong Kong. I had friends and relative served in the Hong Kong Police. I failed my physical when I applied for inspector training in 1969.
Sorry to hear that!
thanks 9H and Wong Sir for telling us about the past, a long gone glorious Hong Kong that accompanied my childhood.
It is very sad to see the downfall of the force, from being the professional guardian of the city, to be mere armed triads that abuses their power by collaborating with gangsters and segregating themselves away from the rest of the community. Many colleagues really tried to serve and protect, but in the end the fall is inevitable.
from a former Hong Kong Police constable (2016-2022)
Used to be my hero . In my childhood seeing the police with British Uniform passing by send shiver down my spine . Now ? just a stare with scorn. They are no more than a group of thug.
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Fascinating podcast. I know bits and pieces of the Hong Kong Police's history but so interesting to hear a serving constable talk of the time leading up to the handover back to the Chinese.
Hong Kongers used to trust and respected our police force. It sickens me to see what they have become now.
Worked with a guy who was a detective with The HK Royal police. He left shortly after the takeover. Super cool dude
Just for a bit of context about the revolver choice, the British police of this era would have been using the S&W Model 10 as their standard sidearm when issued.
As a visitor, always impressed with the professionalism of the police on the street. Also, impressed with the special armed police at the airport with their MP5's.
This interview was awesome! I appreciate the footage. Thank you Henry and Wong sir.
I was there in 83-93 promoted to D/Sgt. There were Chiuchou natives whom they were enjoying Chiuchou tea at the CID/Dafong(big room)! Pakistani and Indian were mainly gate guards and mainly cooking curry in the officer mess! Every Wednesday night there was curry night before all silly drinks started! Good memory!😂
I remember one old folk in work place mentioned that during Cultural Revolution Period, being a Marinetime Police is the worst job cause they have to retrieve dead floating bodoes along the sea. Which made some of them gone crazy
omg the dog-eating part lmao
42:06 😄 Hakka hot dog hot pot 🍲
Thank you for the time and work put into this well-executed podcast and thank you to your guest for such a wonderful look into policing, especially in a world that certainly doesn't exist now.
If possible, this would make a great series, looking at unique policing (weapons, gear, culture, history) around the world.
The Cantonal Police in Switzerland (different regions make for different equipment and missions) also prove a neat topic.
Those podcasts are awesome. Such a shame the special exotic feelings of the Chinese coastal cities like Hongkong and Shanghai has faded away. even 10 years ago it felt a lot more like a rich blend of cultures, at least here in Shanghai.
Damn, wish this episode was longer!
RHKP was the best not just in Asia but the world. Finest in Asia is just too humble for the RHKP.
Not a single police force in the world has this combination--rural /border patrol, marine, City and military graded special force trained by the SAS and SBS all on one .
One point note worthy about the SDU is unlike most police special force who is only good at CQB. They were good at everything a SAS or Seal team 6 member can do . Things like under water infiltration , jungle war tactic and counter-terrorist tactic too. A over shoot as a police special force but considered necessary as Hong Kong was at constant risk of terrorist attack and PRC militants infiltration.
@@timoc5880I'm surprised that the rank and file are still stuck with revolvers, even Singapore is changing to the Glock 19.
Really enjoyed this one. Never been to Hong Kong but we had a strong cultural connection to Hong Kong in hawai'i. Always watched a lot of Hong Kong cinema.
Just came from the RHKP weapons video. Awesome.
Remember everyone.. sharing is caring!
Very well done and informative!!! I’d love to here more about your experience growing up in Hong Kong 🇭🇰 as well
More than twenty years ago, there was a deranged HK police officer who ambushed his colleagues at a raid and several months later went on a killing rampage again and was eventually caught. I remember because our tour group landed that same night as the creep went on his rampage and was all over the news at the time.
Funny point, the UK police DID adopt the S&W Model 10 in .38 Special until replaced with Glock 9mm's
Oh man, listening to how many aspects of vestigial Chinese culture adapted and digested the outside world around events on the mainland and globally is good and interesting content especially when you get an on the ground view. Good podcast, great production
I really like the story they got into the beggining about getting seafood after a long patrol
Massive respect to the men and women of RHKP. Heard some amazing stories.
My In Laws are Hong Kong folks, told me => ICAC = Investigating Ancient Chinese Customs.
I was like whut ?
Oh yes, I have seen Indian or Pakistani folks in HK can speak really fluent Cantonese when I was there. HOLY SMOKES !
My Cantonese is 1/2 baked like that Gwailo in HK movies 😆
Does anyone know what movies the footage is from? I think recognized infernal affairs 2.
If you have other contacts, discussing other foreign police forces/interviewing with them would be fascinating. This was a very good video, thank you for posting. :)
As a Black man looking in these comments, i hope us Black Americans and you Asian Americans can rebuild cultural and societal connection and throw racism out the window. we were once the closest communities hopefully we can rebuilt together and knock down the wall seperating us together at once. I wish yall could move to conservative states so yall can see what true respect for human life looks like. Stay Pro-2A and stay vigilant. all the best to you.
I think the reality is that most people don’t personally feel the same animosity towards the other. We’re just people trying to make a living and taking care of people we love.
Unfortunately there are voices out there telling us that we need to hate on others. Evil is a very real thing, but I think most people are just people, and that we have a lot more in common than we are different. Especially in the USA.
Very interesting. Thank you for setting this up.
Fascinating stories. I've never been to HK, but I grew up watching HK police films in China. Good to hear some real stories from former officers.
Great podcast, PC Wong is dope as hell LOL
已成過去…現在連步操都變成(中式),但還用AR15👎👎👎
Cheers from Shanghai, the exotic flavors that made cities like Shanghai and Hongkong so special has faded away :I
Where TF is the L1A1 dude
I heard the reserve "army" from the Brit still keep using them
@@iceblade019
The new wicked City
In which they already film that shit LOL
They're probably using Norinco AR 15 clones. Since HKPD is now under western sanctions, they won't be able to import western equipments anymore.
@@leileijoker8465
Just from zooming in on their live streams, they look like the same old AR-15s they’ve been using, same features and signs of wear
Hope there will be Portuguese Macau police officer on the show one day.
wow from a HKer(me)
Historically fascinating.
Absobloodlutely Marvelous. Were the SBS/SAS active there at any point. Other than training?
27:00 Land rover was such a badly designed car. It put the spare tire on top of the front hood. Ridiculous.
I could not find the Hong Kong-China border conflict of 1960s. Can someone help?
More Wong sir!
If someone knows movies from podcast, please write me.
Were the Shangdong officers actually recruited in Weihaiwei - the then British colony in N.E China?
Yes, in the 50s or 60s only!
Amazing
Those bagpipes made me cry like a girl
Black star pistol is the Tokarev? Also, Type 79? Does he mean Type 56? Type 79 would be either the Mauser or the SMG... No?
Type 79 is mostly the 7.62 TT SMG ,isn't that common for criminal getting the ammo,so they just pick up the more common seen type56 "Sub" AK
There's quite an interesting section on Hong Kong and the police and criminal use of firearms in "The Killer Catcher" by forensic scientist Brian J Heard. A lot of crazy stories and weird anecdotes too.
Where is episode 1 !
Probably they switched the order
Or just the NSFW shit LoL
The first one is the one with Brandon Herrera on the ak12.
The picture of the Snipers, their coverall looked like BGS,camo . BundesGrenzeSchutz of W Germany.
ah yes, ICAC. the de facto acronym for a LOT of the HK police drama back then, good times.
Let's us bravely face the new era. Not all expatriate officers were that great. Back in the 70s I knew a WPC slept with the DS, a British officer to get her promotion to WPSgt. She retired with the rank of Stn/Sgt.
bring back the british.bring back the old hong kong.bring back britihs hong kong! god save the queen!
The Queen is dead! Long live the King!
He confiscated guns? How British of him.
Hong Kong is just like many far east cultures where the concept of civil gun ownership does not exist. It actually has stricter gun laws than the UK, but culturally it is not an issue since that's how the society has been for thousands of years.
...also why I enjoy living in the US.
@@9HPodcast Sounds like my father as well
@@9HPodcast I've traveled the world and gained a lot of wisdom, I hope. From what I've seen some cultures can't be formed into free societies over the long term. Their culture must change before they can attain it. I believe stories like the Rooftop Koreans prove my hypothesis. America should've been called an assimilation pot. We need no one else's culture at the core. New foods? Sure. New clothes? Sure. New music? Sure. However, Neo libs, communists, and anti gunners need not apply. Government is Fire and those that want it everywhere and controlling everything just want the world to burn. Some not even knowing it.
@@rexmann1984 I'm sorry, but I don't see how "rooftop Koreans" applies to your point.
The "Rooftop Koreans" are a fine example of exactly what's wrong in our society. Rioters protesting racism were attacking immigrants, which is about as racist as it gets. But the LAPD were not any better. They ignored the calls coming from Korea Town and spent all their time protecting affluent neighborhoods. After the riots, the command structure of the LAPD, from the top down, should have been fired and brought up on charges for negligence resulting in loss of life and dereliction of duty.
@@jacktheaviator4938 It applies to my point because Korea doesn't have a gun culture. However the ones that came here embraced our culture and it probably saved a lot of lives that day.
U sangkui
😂🎉❤👌👌
Currious what does he think of private gun ownership.
now they've switched to chinese style marches
Well, they're Chinese.
@@thephoenix756 …Well goose step isn’t Chinese either
Well HK now belongs back to PRC. It's no longer a colony to the west. Therefore it switched back to align with it's central government. I do not see anything wrong with that as an outsider.
If my parents are Brits and I was abducted by Indians .. I may speak like an Indian for a while. But when my parent ransom me back , it is not wrong for your parents to want you speak back like a Brits overtime? Anything wrong with this logic ?
@@MarkzOng…what if your birth parents were irresponsible, cruel, dysfunctional, and could care less about your existence. And your adopted parents brought you up from nothing, nurtured you, fed you well, gave you all the tools for success. Then you are well-off and have status then your birth parents now want you back. Who are you suppose to be loyal to?
@@rayray6490 well you are shifting the goal post in analogy. In the more realistic look of this issue. Your parent is weak and poor. A bury man in his pride rob your parent of you because there is a need of you. The bury man nature you to use you. He make you work for him. When your parent becomes strong , they demand you and now the bury man is weak and could not resist. Now you are back with your parents. Are you going to honour the robber or your parents whom gonna provide protection and care for you from now on ?
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the HK police is still the pride of Hong Kong even after 1997, the police operation against criminals such as smuggers, gang members, drug dealers,scamers. etc. was never stopped
Close the f@$&ing door!
What a sad waste of a beautiful city...
Seeing all the support our politicians have lobbed at Ukraine raised the question: why did we leave Hong Kong to fend for themselves?
I don't think Hong Kong is a battle the west could win. Only UK and USA give any priority to Hong Kong and the UK barely has a navy nowadays. China has homeground advantage they could just spam missiles from the mainland.
UK is weaker militarily than we like to think due to decades of budget cuts. IMHO we are an expeditionary force for the USA now and nothing more.
The UK government have proved themselves unfit for purpose at every turn, without the protest of the locals Gibraltar would have been lost in the 2000's, without Thatcher the Falklands would be gone and with devolution the break up of the union is a matter of time.
一支警察部隊，不會因為政府改變而改變，所以香港警察一直沒變過。🤔
但因政府改變而變成殭屍式打心口步操！😂