Can Your Phone Identify a Rock?
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2021
- I have been seeing these kinds of apps really starting to gain some traction lately. Let's put these to the test and see if a rock identification app really works.
If you want to see some additional testing I did with this app, there is a full article up on the website about it. currentlyrockhounding.com/can...
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This is interesting, because I downloaded this app a few months ago. I found that it got about 75% of the rocks mildly correct. Which was amazing enough to me to spread the word. That being said, I firmly believe that this app is more or less designed for the extreme begginer. Put a simple piece of marble or granite down and photo that. Bet it gets it right. Simple quartz, and other stones ppl hiking or beach walking will find this app pretty useful. Now it did get bloodstone right for me,and moss agate, which shocked the hell out of me!!. But like you said,there are so many variables involved in different types of rock,from different regions,even to if they have been polished or not during the pic. It's not the best app for advanced rock collectors, but I personally,( just my opinion), think it works just fine for simple basic rock identification. Cool video!!..I wondered if someone was going to do a cover on this app some day!!..thanks bro!
I agree that at best, it MIGHT be somewhat useful for very early beginners. Next year will be year 60 of my rockhounding and I have always found the best way of identifying specimens it to do your homework. There are hundreds of books dedicated to identification, thousands of articles in publications such as Rock & Gem or Lapidary Journal. MINDAT is always a good source and especially in the West, there are great resources from
State Departments of Mining as well as very detailed geological maps. I'll stick with tried and true methods. Sure, every now and then I end up guessing, but I figure I get most of them right. Just takes some effort, like anything worthwhile.
Name of the app
Now indeed applicants
How interesting. I wasn't aware of a rock identification app, but I'm not surprised to find out that there is one. Your conclusions of accuracy of the app is almost hilarious because of its accuracy rate, or shall we say failure rate. Just goes to show that books and lots of research and testing are still the best methods for identification. Thanks for doing your testing of this app and sharing. You are always a wealth of information.
About 3 years ago, I got one of these apps, thinking it would be a good tool for identification. I ended up taking out of my phone. The identifications given are not only vague but it also tend to give the same explanation, word by word on different materials that are similar in colours. If there's anyone that likes plants as well, at least the app I had did the when identifying different types of plants.
First of all, I just skipped passed an ad for this same app on a site about books and faces, and literally got the notification about your video (which I hadn't watched yet as a supporting member, oops.) right after it disappeared. Coincidence? I think not! I chuckled as it went by, probably thinking the same thing you, and many others, have thought. As I had expected, the video has the evidence Your Honor!
Secondly, really liked the 'ping' sound of the new pointer! Sometimes, even little rocks are impressive!
I to have been seeing all kinds of ads for this app along with another one just like it.
When I found the title of this video, I really hoped, an App like this would exist. Could make work in the field much easier. But, too sad, it was like I expected. Really good video anyway! Thank you!
Excellent video! I too tried this App and found it to be about the same as you did. Sometimes it was helpful, but often it was way off. Thanks for the excellent review of this App!
Thank You for that that app has came up on my phone several times I keep deleting it I'd didn't figure it worked I don't see how it could.
Good job keep up the informational videos you're helping a lot of people!
Yeah it just can't do it.
At least the app may be a good incentive for us to learn rock identification for ourselves (I like to look for silver linings even in rocks).
Thank you for all that you do @Currently Rockhounding.
Would be if it wasn’t a paid subscription!
I’m glad that you made this video and posted it publicly. That app has been recommended to me so many times and I just didn’t see how it would actually identify since rocks can be so hard to identify with their being so many different types. Thanks for sharing.. from this video it seems to work exactly how I expected it was.
Yeah I have had this thing suggest to me so many times as well.
You can also read the article that goes along with this video here currentlyrockhounding.com/can-your-phone-identify-a-rock/
I think someone should write an app that can be used on either a phone or a windows based computer that would combine image similarity capacity with additional inputs for any data you might want to add to the identification process such as hardness measurements that can be imputed after the user tests the sample. Other possible data entries could include streak color, crystalline structure type, and maybe even macro photo inputs. I would be more than willing to help test such an app. I don't have a cellphone and don't intend to so I'd like to see any such app be usable with already taken photos and on a windows based platform.
Explain that your poor ,they have kinda free phones , look around under the rocks
I don't have a cellphone not because I'm poor, but because I don't want one. I neither want to be a slave to one, nor appreciate the potentials for neural damage due to microwaves radiation. At least twenty years ago (probably more) I saw a 20-20 program that referred to a study showing that 95% of people who had brain tumors and also used cell phones had their tumor on the same side of the brain and the ear they used for listening to their cell phones. I'm sure there has been some progress in the intervening years in shielding technology but the addictive usage of cellphones has only increased over those same years. ;-)
I use a rock identifier app in conjunction with a rock and mineral book. The app is not always correct but I’m a newbie and can use all the help I can get.
that`s a nice pointer you got,, that GREEN QUARTZ? did you ever polish it or a piece of it? cool video, if i had tried that app. i would have been disappointed with the results, on the other hand all new things have wrinkles , kinks ,, and buggs to work out, great video
Definitely an interesting premise for a video and the results were not surprising. Thanks for sharing this one!
I agree that for us the results are not surprising but I think for people new to this they are using it in mass now and its good to have something like this that unequivocally shows it doesn't work.
Super cool idea for a video! Thanks for making it
yeah man, same w/ plant apps.
Field guides for plants/fungi are reliable compared to mineral field guides in my xp.
Thanks for sharing bud
I have seen some of those plant apps, I wonder if they are using the same image comparison algorithm.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing 😊
Interesting but don’t think a app would identify correctly, thank you 😊 love the pointer 😊💙
My recent rock identifying app DOES NOT know what freaking rocks i have, i've tried with about 50 rocks...depending on lighting, shadows, clarity, complexity of specimen etc Cheers! Nice Pointer!
That kind of makes sense. Decent accuracy with pristine samples, but mixed types of Rock probably confuse it quickly. And of course there are millions of types of weird mixes
Exactly I also did some more testing with this and got similar results which are up on the website.
Awesome. Thanks for making it public.
Good to know, thanks! I've had the same problem on plant id apps.
I think they pretty much use the same technology.
Thanks for making this public and confirming my guess.
There's some of that cool wonderstone again !
I downloaded the app. Three day's later I deleted the app. It would show a rock that didn't look the rock then you could scrool down to about 5 different rock's total. They still got it wrong.
Sweet pointer! Yeah, tech not good enough yet.
Maybe some day but I'm not holding my breath.
GreT vid. I wondered about that app. I also wonder how accurate the gem testers are...it would be a shame if someone relied on it and it was no better than this one. Thanks!
Are you talking about a company that will test gems and minerals for you? If so I think some of the big companies out there that have a track record and certified the findings are likely very good at what they do.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding no, I am talking about a devise that you touch to the stone and it is supposed to tell you what the gem is.
@@savagesquirrel9828 Oh I will need to look into that.
Trying to find out how to identify rocks and crystals in NH and that third one that’s super shiny I have 3 of those 2 are bigger than my hand and I had no idea what they are… so by you doing this video I actually now know what it’s called! So I screenshot the CC so maybe the app doesn’t work well but you do! I wish I had someone who seems to have an extensive collections to help me identify what I currently have between my kids and I we have an overflow and I’m trying to organize and find the names of them but it’s so hard for me. I wish I knew someone who would like FaceTime me and go through each rock and maybe also help me figure out how to make them more pretty so I leave them raw do I try to tumble them should I cut this somehow. Idk the only other thing that my kids and I found were meteor pieces and then I found one bigger than my fist those were cool to find. But yea idk, I wish someone could help me cuz all the UA-cam videos I’ve watched and all the articles I’ve read and this is the first time I’ve been able to identify a rock. Haha. So thank you!
Thank you so much for testing this! I was about 99.3% sure my phone could not identify rocks. Maybe my next phone will have a flip-out hardness tester. Haha
I can add a flip-out hardness tester to your phone with some Flex Seal tape I think! : )
@@CurrentlyRockhounding really? Hahaha!
I had a feeling that it would work best for materials that I can identify without it. An image gives no info regarding weight or hardness, both of which are important clues.
Useful test of app.
Thank you.
Pretty much what we expected. Haha. Glad you made this video.
The funny part is that the company that made this reached out to me in an email a week ago asking me to promote the app for money and make video about it without knowing that I already made a video about it. Ha!
@@CurrentlyRockhounding well they better pay up for the free advertising! Haha!
You ever in Spokane?!?!?!?! If so I'd love to meet you bro!!! I'm really 50/50 on this app myself... Tried it out and got most of my things wrong... 4 outta 10
We live in Spokane.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding haha no way small world 😅!!!! I'm a virgin still when it comes to hunting... Been busy with cancer issues... But I love crystals very much... I can't wait to go someday!!!
So, it's about as right as google Lens. Too bad my pyrite wasn't actually gold!😂
I think a type of tech used to colormatch auto paint, could be utilized in identifying some traits. But the rocks themselves may contain more than one type of MinerAl.
Oh yeah as far as determining color, stuff like that would be great. Color being very subjective.
Most automotive finishes (especially red) contain some added mica. And the color matching tech used, (handheld, optical imaging device) determines if and how much mica, pearl and/or metallic particles are in a paint formula for a specific amount of paint, down to the liquid or dry weight mil.
Therefore, I wonder why the Heck there isn't some kind of digital rock identifier out here.
Yes very interesting!
Did you look at any of the 2nd or 3rd guesses? It looked like some of them had more than 1 "identification" (you swipe right on the picture it gives you, which scrolls through the (1)(2)(3)(?) tabs -- and the last one lets you add the correct identification, to help the app learn).
They do provide other options which were also wrong. If the goal is to have an app for people that can't identify rocks than having it become a multiple choice doesn't help at all.
I think its important to point out as well that the app doesn't "learn" anything. Its just a reference table and nothing more.
No app will ever people to do this.
I recently found using Bing for an image search is 1000x better that Google image search. It was beyond surprising.
I'll have to mess around with it.
How would I go about identifying a fossil? I have quite a few that would be nice to know about and maybe someone would like to take a look at them. I just don't know where to start with them I love collecting pretty minerals and fossils, I've got clam like fossils that have mineralized
I think a book on fossils could be a great start for you.
AI isn’t going to replace us rockhounds any time soon. 👍🏼
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Any suggestions on where to hunt in Kentucky?
I have some videos up covering this very subject.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding i found about 4 buckets full in stanford kentucky as well as crinoid fossils and horn coral and a honeycomb looking coral as well
. agate for favorite place my is Co. Estill geodes of. Tons River Green the of head the. At too Co Lincoln inI've hunted
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No surprise there. Good video😎
Thank you!
Great video!!
Thank you!
My app thought calcite precipitation was gold
Ha! Sounds about right for that app.
Pretty cool, but a swing and a miss. Thanks for sharing. Where is the other content for members?
If you go to the main page you can see the members content with the green side bars in the thumbnail image.
I tried an app too, it failed to identify rose quartz, coal, and slag. Yep, I tried to trick it. Said the slag was igneous. Well, was created by extreme heat. Lol 😆
I took a bunch of pictures of objects that were not rocks stuff like my pillow and it still identified as different minerals
Yeah I took a picture of my dog and it said she was Obsidian.
I tried one of those apps years ago and it was a joke haha. 6 kinds of rocks all came up saying same things. Plus no way to test all the important things like hardness or SG haha need lasers on our phones!!
Agreed!
I agree it’s a waste of time those apps are not accurate I’ll stick to the guys that know like you 💪😎👍and a few other quality rockhounders that don’t waste your time and actually learn something I appreciate your channel thank you 💪😎👍
I tried app with known rocks and it did not identify any of them. I immediately canceled subscription but was still charged for 1 month
I'm sorry you got charged for it, but at least its only one month and not longer.
Where did that prairie agate come from?
It was a gift.
I have a large piece with different minerals on it. If I emailed you pictures could you help me decipher what it is?
I can give it a look for sure!
@@CurrentlyRockhounding thank you!
Hi, we also tried the app and we found the same results. I found we can actually "train" the app to be more correct, which defeats the reason we got the app in the 1st place. lol, so i have lost faith in it.
Yeah the app is pretty meh at best it seems.
Yah i tried that app a couple months ago. It was extremely disappointing and i uninstalled it because i felt it was misleading me and inhibiting my normal research and discovery. it was a really exciting idea though i admit.
Yeah the idea is fun but the execution falls flat.
What is the name of the app
Its the Rock ID app.
Not quite there yet. "A" for effort.
More like F for effort...
I do agree with you.
This app is not accurate at all.
I am one of those people 😂
So who's going to make an app that works? Any developers watching please note....make app and RockHounds will buy!
It's a fun idea but I don't think its actually possible.
Is it that cold out there??
Was in the 40's on Saturday where I was diggin
It sure has been lately. We were just at a spot north of here getting rained on.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding going to be 106 where Kurt and I are going on Tuesday..I've never experienced 106...
@@manisteerocks7092 Bring that sunblock, and wide-brimmed hat!
@@CurrentlyRockhounding copy
Quick answer? No.
But isn't part of the rockhounding, and cut and polish process, the long hard journey? That makes it more satisfying end the end. If there was an app, everyone and their brother would be out hounding, and there would be a lot less rocks in the usual places. I vote NO on a successful app, that identifies rocks.
I tried it. Wasn’t impressed.
Yeah its been something I have been seeing people use more and more. Also I keep seeing ads for it all the time.
Why the no cats stencil?
I absolutely agree with you tho, the ap is a huge fail! But cmon! Why no cats!?
In my shop I have a big home made box with cat litter in it that I put rocks in that are covered in oil from the slab saw. The cat litter adsorbs the oil off the rocks. Also I really don't want cats in so I painted that stencil on it, I just hope the cats can read.
That is hilarious man! Keep up the great content!
Lol yeah i agree its pretty much a hit and miss, mostly miss.
I just tried the app today and it couldn’t identify anything I tried . Waste of money !
I'm sorry but at least you know now.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding I do :) I wish I would of seen your video a couple hours earlier lol. Thanks for all your videos !
I used one it was 50/50.
Those are not very good odds of being right.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding lmao! Tell me about it.
I have a rock?! that I would like you to help me to identify.
I'm sorry but I do not do identifications of international rocks.
Funny this is the latest video bc I just heard of these apps (there are several) about a week ago and I was reading reviews from 2 or 3 different ones. And wow, fortunately ppl arent shy about telling u how much they suck so I didnt sign up. Which is good since the free 7 day trial automatically transfers into an almost impossible to cancel $40 a year scammy rip off. Still this video seeing a pros perspective was really interesting/ funny. Wow what a worthless app!
If that’s Rock Identifier then I don’t like it. Been trying to find a better one since winter’s coming I can do ID work on my collection
That is is. Really the only way to do rock and mineral identification is with the traditional method.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding I can see that. I have 2 books and do post some stumpers to a FB group
Because of all the clothing you wear I wonder if it's cold where you are recording Today I realized you might be wearing a dis guise.......
This video was filmed when it was cold out.
Mine is wrong 9 times out of 10.
Sounds about right for it.
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I've tried that app... Horrible! Lol
Yeah it's really a waste.
I guess you still do not know how to use the app.
I do and its 100% trash and I explained it perfectly in the video.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding But you had to slide the possibilities it gave you, not the first result is 100% right. it also gives you other three possible results, then you compare your stone to these three possible results, at least it gets you closer to its identification. But of course I agree with you. Identifying rocks can't rely only on the colour of stones, how about its hardness, density, magnetizing, luster, streak... of course an application can't do all this work.
Checking out the other results does not provide anything more than a random guess based on a simple image comparison algorithm. This app does more harm than good and it leads people towards wrong ID's more often than not.
Why are you defending this trash app?
bro i have a stone in my hand i don't know what kind of stone it is i found it lying in my yard there are many stones like it can you tell me what kind of stone it is so can you send me your insta id or wp number if you have one i will send you a photo