@@luispaniagua23 I have a few tutorials here and there, but I’m also constantly improving and sometimes old tutorials feel outdated. If your comment gets 100 likes I’ll consider it again
Okay just finished watching, fantastic work as always! In a world obsessed with getting The Batman look while at the same time saying that blurring things out is always bad, it's great to see that with just the right amount of Cleverness, one can have massive control over the final image. Stay awesome dude!
@@sorinsecara I liked the Helios on The Batman. Dune 2 less so, each project is different! It’s about control and restraint to match the mood, sometimes blur sometimes sharp
@@cleverghostchili Yeah exactly, completely agree! By the way, when is a soundtrack production tutorial coming, your musical compositions are fantastic!
@@sorinsecara I have an introductory video to music composition! It didn’t perform as well so I assume there’s not a lot of interest ua-cam.com/video/EMx_rWt7ld4/v-deo.html
@@cleverghostchili Just watched it, super useful! Sorry I am slowly binging your whole channel and didn't get there yet, should have checked before asking lol. Thanks man, hope you have a great day!
I love how your content is to the point, and it is actually helpful advice that is easy to understand. I also love how you're not pretentious like so many young filmmakers are nowadays. *Cough the guy's that only shoot with a over the top film emulation, and in 1.37:1 in f1.2 with a black pro mist*Cough. It's freaking annoying and it feels more like a trend than actually thought out filmmaking.
This is a great video! I've just been watching videos on how traditionally cinematographers have shot at F4 or higher. But if you still keep this as the ideal, you don't take into account the effect of modern lenses and (especially 6k and above) digital sensors. It's also hard to trade off the consistent colours and contrast of modern lenses, especially when relying on colour space transforms which assume native lenses (I'm also colour vision deficient so I can't afford to deal with unpredictable, subtle colour shifts caused by different lens colour and contrast). If we stick to modern lenses and sensors there's no choice but to use post processing. But also love the anti-consumerist bit, that's so important. Enjoyed the use of radial blur - you could try combining that with zoom in small amounts to simulate spherical aberration. I also really liked the point you made about bokeh making handheld shakes less nauseating. Finally as someone else said the edge detect plus blur is really worth trying - the edge detect can produce an output which you can tweak using curves before feeding it into the alpha input (hope I've got that right) of a blur node to choose exactly which edges are going to get blurred and hopefully save the colour detail in subtler transitions.
Thank you for your thoughts. For me I find the rendering on Zeiss to be very distinct at f1.4, it’s not necessarily the bokeh that I prefer. My color deficiency is quite strange, I’m hyper attuned to contrast and subtle color shifts but can’t identify certain hues. There are more blur techniques I didn’t go over, I will cover in more detail if I make a dedicated grading video
@@cleverghostchili I'm guessing you've done the ishihara test - have you got protanomaly, deuteranomaly or something else? I think it's natural to focus on tones/contrast when colours are less prominent - I'm the same. For me (deuteranomaly) there is a sense of wrongness in a lot of colour edits but sometimes it's hard to identify how to fix them.
I just found this channel and you have a new subscriber. Beautiful work. That shot of the KTX train section at the end with your subject walking towards the vanishing point, beautiful and stunning.
Wide open isn't the only way to get softness out of a lens. You can stop it down to maximum aperture and (unless you're on a Summilux) get maximum diffraction. Soderbergh said he'd shot a lot of Che stopping down to F22 with no ND filters -- apparently, it's much more common in older films than people realize. Just keep dirt off your sensor. But that's another way.
Great call! I used to shoot f11 and f22 on a crop sensor starting out all the time without an ND, the diffraction never bothered me so I can confirm this has a great overlooked rendering as well
Especially with YT, where videos have (or are forced to have) rather low bitrates, blurring will also help the encoding as more bits can be allocated to the important parts of the frame. Could be a nice side benefit. Beatiful shots as always.
I have an online acquaintance (was that you?) that did extensive testing on this, redownloading the uploaded UA-cam file of several versions with varying grain. There there were inconsistent results, but in some profiles, grain yielded a large file size suggesting it improved UA-cam performance. The main problem I’ve had with blur is the smoothing creates more gradients, which are prone to banding especially in the shadows
@@cleverghostchili that wasn't me, sorry. But sounds like what I would expect. Encoding grain is really demanding bitrate wise and bitrate is usually what YT wants to not spend. There may be a point where you can force the encoder to spend more bits for grain to get rid of banding to a point. Excessive banding is another thing that happens when an encode is bitrate-starved. I guess my point is/was: selectively blurring in a discreet fashion lets YT allocate bits to the parts of the image that *you* deemed important. You're kind of tricking the encoder in a visually pleasing way. Obviously this has limits and gradients becoming too flat and free of grain means that banding is more obvious.
My experience is the base look on the FP is superior to the blackmagic. Bmcc6k has a color science designed for state of the art color grading tools. I think the Blackmagic requires more work to get a good image, but a high image ceiling. It’s also easier to achieve pushed looks due to its color separation where the FP looks more naturally accurate and great for minimal grades. Because the images are gentler in the Blackmagic with lower contrast, you can implement contrasty grading tools like bleach bypass with more balance. The key difference is the information in the highlights emulating the pleasing Arri highlight roll off. FP is fine but slightly muted for pushed color, also because non native log and workflows in Davinci. For pushing exposure, the FP wins by a landslide, much better noise and lowlight and manipulation, I would say the blackmagic performs worse when lifting shadows. Both are great, blackmagic missing the some of that FP immersive texture
@@cleverghostchili That is interesting. i noticed the same thing about the shadows when I downloaded some BMCC braw clips. I'd like to add that the arri like highlight rolloff is easily achievable with the curves node using soft clip tools when using cinemadng files. Blackmagic seems to be processing it internally which is something i'm not a fan of as it compresses the highlights waay too much
One of my key grading techniques is to compress highlights, maybe highlight roll off is not the precise term I’m referencing, but I like how highlights look on the blackmagic more
@@cleverghostchili Oh yes, that might be because the blackmagic looks like the midrange and the upper midrange of the curve is lifted while incorporating more contrast using s-curve. Also it looks like the highlights are less saturated on the bmcc but don't quote me on that i'm not too sure
To blur, or not to blur is my favorite Shakespeare quote
@@keith-knittel the existential crisis as old as time
beautiful. color grading tutorial soon?
@@luispaniagua23 I have a few tutorials here and there, but I’m also constantly improving and sometimes old tutorials feel outdated. If your comment gets 100 likes I’ll consider it again
there is definitely something magical that happens when you soften an image
@@evayap_ ghosts in the edges
Our eyes do it naturally. The image becomes more “organic” or “natural” which definitely create that magic.
Okay just finished watching, fantastic work as always! In a world obsessed with getting The Batman look while at the same time saying that blurring things out is always bad, it's great to see that with just the right amount of Cleverness, one can have massive control over the final image. Stay awesome dude!
@@sorinsecara I liked the Helios on The Batman. Dune 2 less so, each project is different! It’s about control and restraint to match the mood, sometimes blur sometimes sharp
@@cleverghostchili Yeah exactly, completely agree! By the way, when is a soundtrack production tutorial coming, your musical compositions are fantastic!
@@sorinsecara I have an introductory video to music composition! It didn’t perform as well so I assume there’s not a lot of interest ua-cam.com/video/EMx_rWt7ld4/v-deo.html
@@cleverghostchili Just watched it, super useful! Sorry I am slowly binging your whole channel and didn't get there yet, should have checked before asking lol. Thanks man, hope you have a great day!
Man I get so excited every time you post, glad to be here so early. Brb, gotta watch the masterpiece.
@@sorinsecara early club!
I love how your content is to the point, and it is actually helpful advice that is easy to understand. I also love how you're not pretentious like so many young filmmakers are nowadays. *Cough the guy's that only shoot with a over the top film emulation, and in 1.37:1 in f1.2 with a black pro mist*Cough. It's freaking annoying and it feels more like a trend than actually thought out filmmaking.
Glad it resonates, I value my viewers time as much as my own, no superfluous content here
Your style of cinematography is my favourite at the moment. Incredible shots!
@@eknib thank you, sometimes I’m insecure about how boring my style is but I’ve been staying true to myself and people seem to like it
@@cleverghostchili its nothing even remotely close to boring. It's organic and I would say very true to life if you can say so. I love your style!
Wow - would love a DaVinci tutorial on that one. I love the idea of the alternate triangle :))
Love your work bro! Without a doubt one of my favorite channels on filmmaking!
The journey never ends!
i absolutely love the credits scene in every video, something so simple yet beautiful
@@Chris43791FTW of course, the ghosts deserve the best!
A peaceful and insightful moment every time I tune in to this clever ghost
It’s a peaceful and insightful moment once Cody comments 🙂↔️
this is my first video and believe me you're not explain any thing your showing the pure technique to us love you brr
I look forward to every one of your videos. They are all so polished and inspiring
Happy to hear, inspiration is one of my biggest goals. I wasn’t always as polished and still have a ways to go, enjoy the ride
love this video. amazing job
love the look of this video! blur is just one aspect. Theres so much that went into this
@@dianaa8125 people have more control over their image than they think
Absolutely love this, you’re an excellent teacher, always get excited when you bring something new out.
I made the credits!
@@jaychow94 I think you were there last time too
Love all this simple techniques that you can just use on any camera you have. Thank you for sharing, subbed!
Welcome! Hope you enjoy the other content
Insightful as ever . Thanks for posting , its always a pleasure watching your content and hearing your point of view.
@@stewartmoore thanks for listening, I always try to present my thoughts so anyone can take something away from it
This is a great video! I've just been watching videos on how traditionally cinematographers have shot at F4 or higher. But if you still keep this as the ideal, you don't take into account the effect of modern lenses and (especially 6k and above) digital sensors. It's also hard to trade off the consistent colours and contrast of modern lenses, especially when relying on colour space transforms which assume native lenses (I'm also colour vision deficient so I can't afford to deal with unpredictable, subtle colour shifts caused by different lens colour and contrast). If we stick to modern lenses and sensors there's no choice but to use post processing. But also love the anti-consumerist bit, that's so important. Enjoyed the use of radial blur - you could try combining that with zoom in small amounts to simulate spherical aberration. I also really liked the point you made about bokeh making handheld shakes less nauseating. Finally as someone else said the edge detect plus blur is really worth trying - the edge detect can produce an output which you can tweak using curves before feeding it into the alpha input (hope I've got that right) of a blur node to choose exactly which edges are going to get blurred and hopefully save the colour detail in subtler transitions.
Thank you for your thoughts. For me I find the rendering on Zeiss to be very distinct at f1.4, it’s not necessarily the bokeh that I prefer. My color deficiency is quite strange, I’m hyper attuned to contrast and subtle color shifts but can’t identify certain hues. There are more blur techniques I didn’t go over, I will cover in more detail if I make a dedicated grading video
@@cleverghostchili I'm guessing you've done the ishihara test - have you got protanomaly, deuteranomaly or something else? I think it's natural to focus on tones/contrast when colours are less prominent - I'm the same. For me (deuteranomaly) there is a sense of wrongness in a lot of colour edits but sometimes it's hard to identify how to fix them.
@@prismcollectionmusic Red-green for me. Vectorscope is a tool i use all the time, it's invaluable for me and how i fix those problems
I just found this channel and you have a new subscriber. Beautiful work. That shot of the KTX train section at the end with your subject walking towards the vanishing point, beautiful and stunning.
Welcome glad you enjoy the framing
Yeah 🤠!! Ghost the Commandor !!! Spot on video
@@westdk6705 ghost army assemble
Another masterpiece by Clever Ghost!
@@AlexandreVidal something new, definitely familiar
Love it!
Wide open isn't the only way to get softness out of a lens. You can stop it down to maximum aperture and (unless you're on a Summilux) get maximum diffraction. Soderbergh said he'd shot a lot of Che stopping down to F22 with no ND filters -- apparently, it's much more common in older films than people realize. Just keep dirt off your sensor. But that's another way.
Great call! I used to shoot f11 and f22 on a crop sensor starting out all the time without an ND, the diffraction never bothered me so I can confirm this has a great overlooked rendering as well
Just find your channel! This content is gold!
@@facugonzalez154 welcome to Cleverland
Been waiting for a new vid. They always look great
@@phildunphy1937 thanks for being patient, been sorting out the backend stuff so should be smooth sailing moving forward
6:28 Why does that train look like an anime scene from the early 2000s? 😭 It's so unreal, it doesn't look like motion picture.
Perhaps it’s not a common object speed and angle
so informative, thanks! I will apply these right away :)
Especially with YT, where videos have (or are forced to have) rather low bitrates, blurring will also help the encoding as more bits can be allocated to the important parts of the frame. Could be a nice side benefit.
Beatiful shots as always.
I have an online acquaintance (was that you?) that did extensive testing on this, redownloading the uploaded UA-cam file of several versions with varying grain. There there were inconsistent results, but in some profiles, grain yielded a large file size suggesting it improved UA-cam performance. The main problem I’ve had with blur is the smoothing creates more gradients, which are prone to banding especially in the shadows
@@cleverghostchili that wasn't me, sorry. But sounds like what I would expect. Encoding grain is really demanding bitrate wise and bitrate is usually what YT wants to not spend. There may be a point where you can force the encoder to spend more bits for grain to get rid of banding to a point. Excessive banding is another thing that happens when an encode is bitrate-starved. I guess my point is/was: selectively blurring in a discreet fashion lets YT allocate bits to the parts of the image that *you* deemed important. You're kind of tricking the encoder in a visually pleasing way. Obviously this has limits and gradients becoming too flat and free of grain means that banding is more obvious.
Very good job as always!
really loved this vid and shot at 6:36 is a masterpiece!
@@silverplotfilms framing is king
Great video as always 🔥
I would watch a whole film in your style.
Getting there, slowly but surely!
Always so good......😎
Gorgeous cinematography, every shot looked like it was out a high budget film. I'm curious as to which lens this was shot on?
Hi, Zeiss Milvus 35mm f1.4 EF. I’ve sorta reviewed it here
ua-cam.com/video/NTwS9QPfBQU/v-deo.html
i really like your cinematography... which font did you use on the credits part?
Radial blur ftw
So good
Clever!
Wow 💞😍😍
Now, make me plizzzz a 20min-ish short film
@@hugomalpeyre trying! Need actors…you interested?
@@cleverghostchili lemme Book my flight !
👍👍👍
I’m curious. What did you film these shots with? I’m specifically talking about lens and camera choice. It’s very interesting. Looks very organic.
BMCC 6K FF and Zeiss optics
Yes, specifically zeiss milvus 35mm f1.4. Organic is also the result of the grade
What exactly do you mean when you say you shoot defocused at f8? Thanks!
*Deep focus* - I’ll try to link words less and enunciate word endings more clearly
What camera and lens was this shot on
Hi, tech info at end of video, entirely shot on BMCC6kFF and Zeiss Milvus 35mm f1.4
I'm quite shocked about how good the bmcc 6k looks. Can the image be pushed as much as the cinemadng on the fp?
My experience is the base look on the FP is superior to the blackmagic. Bmcc6k has a color science designed for state of the art color grading tools. I think the Blackmagic requires more work to get a good image, but a high image ceiling. It’s also easier to achieve pushed looks due to its color separation where the FP looks more naturally accurate and great for minimal grades. Because the images are gentler in the Blackmagic with lower contrast, you can implement contrasty grading tools like bleach bypass with more balance. The key difference is the information in the highlights emulating the pleasing Arri highlight roll off. FP is fine but slightly muted for pushed color, also because non native log and workflows in Davinci. For pushing exposure, the FP wins by a landslide, much better noise and lowlight and manipulation, I would say the blackmagic performs worse when lifting shadows. Both are great, blackmagic missing the some of that FP immersive texture
@@cleverghostchili That is interesting. i noticed the same thing about the shadows when I downloaded some BMCC braw clips.
I'd like to add that the arri like highlight rolloff is easily achievable with the curves node using soft clip tools when using cinemadng files. Blackmagic seems to be processing it internally which is something i'm not a fan of as it compresses the highlights waay too much
One of my key grading techniques is to compress highlights, maybe highlight roll off is not the precise term I’m referencing, but I like how highlights look on the blackmagic more
@@cleverghostchili Oh yes, that might be because the blackmagic looks like the midrange and the upper midrange of the curve is lifted while incorporating more contrast using s-curve. Also it looks like the highlights are less saturated on the bmcc but don't quote me on that i'm not too sure
What setup did you use in this shots? :)
@@mariohazard821 hi I put the gear in the end of the video. It was entirely shot on the bmcc6kff and Zeiss Milvus 35mm f1.4
Still love u❤
love received
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@@BLACKspaghetti 🇰🇷🇰🇷
others: use blur to shave off the sharpness from their cameras
me: use blur & grain to hide my crappy iphone sensor 💀
But the megapickles
edge detect -> blur
Sounds like the rendering of a certain familiar camera!
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