I also love how he handles his courtroom, calm, collective, but also a strength with his keen attention to everything that is taking place, he doesn't miss a thing, he's has a gracious way.
At 53:26 the camera is on MT and her female attorney who are casually talking and MT has her laptop intentionally pointing towards the camera. You can see there is a document open. You can only make out a portion of what is on it at the 53:26 point. You can see a corner of the screen and can't read all the way across the document at least from my screen I can't. At one angle a portion is legible you can see the word psychiatrist and Dr. Kra something and improve her mood. She is clearly trying to have the cameraman pick it up and her attorney has to be in on it. There is NO way that female attorney does not know what is on MT's laptop! The document is still open on the screen when the camera flashes on her around the 1:45 mark. I'm now more convinced of this woman's guilt!
I actually noticed the laptop screen on another UA-cam video late last night. This was no accident, clearly the attorneys gave her access to this document, which they shouldn't have done. This case isn't about the custody of the children, Michelle is not an interested party in that case, and therefore has no right to the details. Guess it makes sense that Michelle would hire attorneys who are as slimy as she is.
My thoughts exactly. That was an act of defiance. 👎 I went back & watched this over & over. I am convinced this was staged. He, Hornhead has everyone distracted by his ridiculous line of dissecting the dynamics of the celltower(s)… he moves away from his seat/ area where he was standing. The female attorney has been leaning forward for the most part during this trial proceedings. Notice how she leans back as though she is intentionally allowing the camera/ viewers to see the screen fully. The female attorney is talking using her hands like she’s explaining something important. It looks so staged. Look at how big the font is. I now believe they all know they are screwed… rather than lose the case… maybe they’ve opted for a risk of mistrial thinking she’d be charged for contempt of court. A way for her to get a lessor sentence. She is in for a rude awakening. Maybe all 3 will be called out on this one. Guilty, guilty, guilty‼️
I'm annoyed with the irrelevant questions, ridiculous objections and juvenile tantrums. Not sure who else has ever retained the services of the defense attorney, but I strongly suggest you skip over his firm in the Whitepages listings
The phone guy is highly knowledgeable of his field. He speaks in a clear simple manner for us who have no clue in a way we can understand. Good witness. He makes a good stand & holds his own with the defense attorney who throws out I think irrelevant questions.
The defense attorney seems like a DRUNK who looks like he just woke up, grabbed some clothes off the floor, and ran to Court. DPLORABLE. He thinks because he raises his voice makes him seem intelligent - NOT - it makes him look like he's DESPERATELY THROWING WHATEVER HE GETS HIS HANDS ON AGAINST THE WALL AND PRAYING SOMETHING STICKS. HE'S WRONG AND HIS CLIENT IS GUILTY. I wouldn't hire him or his assistant to put air in my tires or wash my windshield
He tries too hard and at the same time does nothing but repeat the prosecution’s questions. I hate when he looks over at the jury.. like he’s influencing them at all. He’s a clown 🤡
Unfortunate, because defense is making some good points. He did his homework. I think the witnesses are annoyed because he asks about things they had not examined that could affect their analysis. I wouldn’t be surprised if Schoenhorn knew the neighbor was in the car business before asking the question.
The FBI agent who was testifying about the cell calls showcased how presumptuous and ridiculous the Defense attorney’s cross examination was. The defense atty was going around in circles and the agent was bored and didn’t get intimidated AT ALL. Kudos to the FBI agent. I’m certain the jury stopped paying attention.
He really makes me sick to my stomach. He’s condescending to all but he’s being exceptionally so to the FBI agent. This agent does appear annoyed as shoe”horn” tries to bully.
Have to say that both witnesses on Thursday, Fotis's neighbor, and the FBI expert were more than a match for the defense attorney. His amateur questions and assumptions, which they politely corrected, illuminated how in the weeds this attorney is and clearly can't provide the type of defense Michelle needs. She's in serious trouble and he's objecting to factual data that can't be disputed. Unless the jury is a group of zombies, the defense has an uphill battle from here on out
Did anyone else see J Tractonis looking at ‘not for public eyes’ info on her laptop. Goes to show her sense of ‘don’t care attitude’. Can’t believe someone would be so blatant !!! Have seen her doing it before !!
I really liked the witnesses today. The neighbor seemed well spoken and informed. The FBI cell data guy was good. I’m curious what to make of the end of the day. Contempt?
IMO Audrey Felsen knowingly allowed MT to display the sealed document/documents during court today. MT & AF need to face contempt & AF should face disbarment. IMO
Contempt hearing!!! That homewrecker is dreadful. The defense are lying, we can ALL see whats on the screens and what troconis is doing!!! Constantly going through stuff. Put her away.
WHY would MT walk out of the courtroom at the afternoon break.. which I don't remember ever seeing her do..... with a manilla envelope and other "office-type" items? Wouldn't you want to leave ALL your documents in a trial for your future and life at the most secure place in the courtroom>?>>> the defense table? If she goes to the bathroom, where is she going to put those items? On the bathroom floor? YUK ! Leave them on the sink counter for ANYBODY to look at ? I think that THIS is when she was able to retrieve the Custody Report and bring it back into the courtroom !!!!!!!!!! That was all planned out... she is a sly and sneaky Evil SNAKE !
This judge, with his appearing permanent smile 😊 and being a sleep, never misses a beat, Not a single word goes over his cute bowtie and head, but I don't get why he doesn't appear to make eye contact with any of the witnesses and /or anyone in the courtroom either.
I reckon that judge would be a very funny guy socially. I think he is so onto it and thinks on his feet. he must be trying hard not to roll his eyes at some of the defence attorbeys carry ons. ha
MT is the person who changes what is on her screen after the request for sidebar. It is her wrist with the blue sweater who touches her computer . go back to shortly before 1:59.
Justice is a tricky business. The judge is an excellence in the matter. I do not trust the Troconis. I do trust the police and the US justice. The judicial system is not perfect but it is the best around. IMO. I hope the defense lawyer gets his fees for his work in this case. He might be exausted still… Never recovered likely… IMO
Wait so did MT possibly go past Jennifer’s home etc to see if she went back home after children being dropped at school? Possibly making sure all kids went to school that day 🤔. So many calls back n forth no way she didn’t know what was happening!
Her attorney’s aren’t doing her any favors. We learn nothing new from their cross, and it’s a waste of everyone’s time. That being said, unless the state comes with some amazing last minute evidence or witness, I’m not convinced she had anything to do with this.
At this juncture, I'm absolutely convinced that she is guilty of all three charges. Her mad dashes between Fotis's home and 80 Mountain Spring Rd. tell me that this woman didn't come to the slow realization , over time, that her boyfriend may have harmed his wife. NO, she's as knee deep in it as Fotis was. Thought they were slick, using the employee's truck, hoping he would be blamed for the murder. And the GAL's testimony yesterday where he stated that Michelle told him she would be leaving and moving out of state with her daughter as she was frustrated over the fact that Fotis's divorce was not completed. If she would tell that to a virtual stranger, what do you imagine she was saying to Fotis? I'm sure that threat made him take drastic action. He was about to lose access to his estranged wife's money, his business was bankrupt, and now the chick he cheated with was leaving him? Yeah, she was the catalyst in all of this , and I'm positive, she knew , when she told him of her plans, what he would do next.
@@AnitaH-r3f but we haven’t seen enough proof yet… you can have a gut feeling, but that’s not going to convict her. You may be right, or we may be wrong. I’m hesitant to judge because I’ve had people blame me for things for which I looked guilty by all means, but I was absolutely not. Appearance of guilt doesn’t always = guilt. But we’ll see.
See...this is how deceitful this defense attorney is.... THE MOUNTAIN?!?!? That is NOT a mountain. Lololololol Its like this defense attorney cannot help but lie and exagerate to provably wrong facts, pictures, words....just WOW
Only god know if she involved and lies with Jennifer disappeared will god punished her if she said she doesn’t know what happened to Jennifer telling the truth let her free Only God know. Who’s lies
@@susankeene2785 all of those are crimes but she hasn't been charged with those crimes here, she has been charged with conspiracy murder which means there needs to be direct evidence that dulos and michelle hatched up a conspiracy and then dulos acted upon that plan that they hatched. If there is no evidence linking her to the conspiracy then she isn't guilty in this case, the state can very well charge her with destruction of evidence and hiding a dead body after that.
@@susankeene2785 all of those are crimes but she has not been charged with those crimes here (destruction of evidence, hiding a dead body). She has been charged with conspiracy murder which means there needs to be direct evidence that there was a conspiracy, troconis was part of that conspiracy and steps were taken in furtherance of the conspiracy. Till now there hasn't been any evidence shown that suggests that troconis and dulos aligned on a plan for the murder, what she did during the murder or after it has no bearing on this case and those emotions around her moving in etc. again have no relevance, justice system doesn't function like that.
Plenty of evidence against MT if it's put together like a puzzle. MT lied about Fotis being with her on 23rd/24th May. She moved Fotis phone about to indicate he was with her and answered his phone call. Was with Fotis disposing garbage bags. Followed Fotis to the car wash in another car and picked him up. I could go on and on. One coincidence believable not all of them.
I have a horrible crush on this judge.
This man deserves a seat on the Supreme Court. His beautiful mind is a thing to behold.
😊
I also love how he handles his courtroom, calm, collective, but also a strength with his keen attention to everything that is taking place, he doesn't miss a thing, he's has a gracious way.
A.M.E.N. !!!!
I love this Judge! He explains everything so gracefully and with class and wisdom. Great Job 👏🏽 ❤
The Defense attorney sounds ridiculous trying to outsmart the FBI cell phone data analysis expert!!
At 53:26 the camera is on MT and her female attorney who are casually talking and MT has her laptop intentionally pointing towards the camera. You can see there is a document open. You can only make out a portion of what is on it at the 53:26 point. You can see a corner of the screen and can't read all the way across the document at least from my screen I can't. At one angle a portion is legible you can see the word psychiatrist and Dr. Kra something and improve her mood. She is clearly trying to have the cameraman pick it up and her attorney has to be in on it. There is NO way that female attorney does not know what is on MT's laptop! The document is still open on the screen when the camera flashes on her around the 1:45 mark. I'm now more convinced of this woman's guilt!
I actually noticed the laptop screen on another UA-cam video late last night. This was no accident, clearly the attorneys gave her access to this document, which they shouldn't have done. This case isn't about the custody of the children, Michelle is not an interested party in that case, and therefore has no right to the details. Guess it makes sense that Michelle would hire attorneys who are as slimy as she is.
I think Michelle is trying for a mistrial
My thoughts exactly. That was an act of defiance. 👎
I went back & watched this over & over. I am convinced this was staged. He, Hornhead has everyone distracted by his ridiculous line of dissecting the dynamics of the celltower(s)… he moves away from his seat/ area where he was standing. The female attorney has been leaning forward for the most part during this trial proceedings.
Notice how she leans back as though she is intentionally allowing the camera/ viewers to see the screen fully. The female attorney is talking using her hands like she’s explaining something important. It looks so staged.
Look at how big the font is. I now believe they all know they are screwed… rather than lose the case… maybe they’ve opted for a risk of mistrial thinking she’d be charged for contempt of court. A way for her to get a lessor sentence.
She is in for a rude awakening. Maybe all 3 will be called out on this one.
Guilty, guilty, guilty‼️
They probably stopped listening to him days ago.
And the font was SO NOTICEABLY BIG! 🙄
This witness is annoyed with these irrelevant questions
I'm annoyed with the irrelevant questions, ridiculous objections and juvenile tantrums. Not sure who else has ever retained the services of the defense attorney, but I strongly suggest you skip over his firm in the Whitepages listings
We all are!
The phone guy is highly knowledgeable of his field. He speaks in a clear simple manner for us who have no clue in a way we can understand. Good witness. He makes a good stand & holds his own with the defense attorney who throws out I think irrelevant questions.
I agree ❤
He's like america. He's running on Duncan😅
The defense attorney seems like a DRUNK who looks like he just woke up, grabbed some clothes off the floor, and ran to Court. DPLORABLE. He thinks because he raises his voice makes him seem intelligent - NOT - it makes him look like he's DESPERATELY THROWING WHATEVER HE GETS HIS HANDS ON AGAINST THE WALL AND PRAYING SOMETHING STICKS. HE'S WRONG AND HIS CLIENT IS GUILTY. I wouldn't hire him or his assistant to put air in my tires or wash my windshield
@@michelleabraham6625 I had a law professor like that once I have to totally agree with you I think he is a drunk
Defense attorney is so annoying,condescending,irritating and is an egomaniac that no one can tolerate
He literally makes me sick to my stomach!
He tries too hard and at the same time does nothing but repeat the prosecution’s questions. I hate when he looks over at the jury.. like he’s influencing them at all. He’s a clown 🤡
@@christykuhl2581 you’re spot on!!
Unfortunate, because defense is making some good points. He did his homework. I think the witnesses are annoyed because he asks about things they had not examined that could affect their analysis. I wouldn’t be surprised if Schoenhorn knew the neighbor was in the car business before asking the question.
Are the defense attorneys public defenders or paid by MT?
Just because MT phone was home does not mean she was home..she is GUiLTY ..Justice for Jennifer and her family. She knew what was going on for sure.
Her alibi is tight, they’ve already proven she wasn’t at the murder, otherwise she’d be facing more serious charges.
She was home answering Fotis phone for him
It was well planned. They are both smart. But not smart enough
She is sooooo complicit!!
She helped him create alibis
someone had to pick him up where he left her car, probably MT?
The FBI agent who was testifying about the cell calls showcased how presumptuous and ridiculous the Defense attorney’s cross examination was. The defense atty was going around in circles and the agent was bored and didn’t get intimidated AT ALL. Kudos to the FBI agent. I’m certain the jury stopped paying attention.
He really makes me sick to my stomach. He’s condescending to all but he’s being exceptionally so to the FBI agent. This agent does appear annoyed as shoe”horn” tries to bully.
As did I! When shoe horn starts talking I can’t pay attention. He’s so annoying and grasping at any straw he can
Have to say that both witnesses on Thursday, Fotis's neighbor, and the FBI expert were more than a match for the defense attorney. His amateur questions and assumptions, which they politely corrected, illuminated how in the weeds this attorney is and clearly can't provide the type of defense Michelle needs. She's in serious trouble and he's objecting to factual data that can't be disputed. Unless the jury is a group of zombies, the defense has an uphill battle from here on out
WONDER HOW MT IS EXPERIENCING TODAY...THE COURT OFFICIAL IFO JUDGE LOOKS ALOT LIKE AN OLDER JENNIFER......
This judge is amazing the best I have seen in a judge! What a beautiful mind!! God bless him!!
the judge is crusty, outrageous and incredibly good…also a combo of Morgan Freeman and Abraham Lincoln
Crusty?
It’s the judge’s patience for me ❤
Contempt is right!!!!!! MT, you are not above the law, you just think you are! Slimy defense attorneys!!
That’s why she is sitting in the defendants sit! She thought she was smart!
Slimy as a car salesman. I can’t stand defense attorneys
One of the best Attorneys you could ask for. He is above his calling!
The Defense Atty is a comedy of errors, and the FBI agent is BORED.
My faith is in this Judge 100% He will get to the truth
I hope they don’t cut MT anymore slack
I love the judge and the phone witness. The prosecution has proven to me MT is guilty.
Did anyone else see J Tractonis looking at ‘not for public eyes’ info on her laptop. Goes to show her sense of ‘don’t care attitude’. Can’t believe someone would be so blatant !!!
Have seen her doing it before !!
M not J
YOU were able to see her looking at a sealed document? How did you know it was the sealed Custody Eval Report?
@@cateellington4081because what you can see and read basically says as much….about a psychiatrist and Jennifer’s moods and so on
@@cateellington4081 at about 53:24 you can see a document open on the laptop, and the letters are most clear at 53:25.
Mt is soooooo condescending!!
To cause this type of issue of what she’s flashing from her screen!!! She’s sinking her own ship !!
I really liked the witnesses today. The neighbor seemed well spoken and informed. The FBI cell data guy was good. I’m curious what to make of the end of the day. Contempt?
I agree. Both of these witnesses were extremely concise, professional and very impressive. No emotion in their answers, just the facts.
IMO Audrey Felsen knowingly allowed MT to display the sealed document/documents during court today. MT & AF need to face contempt & AF should face disbarment. IMO
I saw that too! never during this trial have we seen what was on her laptop, AF always blocked it.
@@barbarafann7888another time on MT’s laptop, it looked like she had a screen saver of her, her kid, Fotis, and his kids!! Can anyone verify??
Was it the morning session or afternoon?
@@EmmaDeeyes I saw that too. Disgraceful
@@crisym327 no afternoon
The Judge is SO COOL ! After the sidebar, he goes right back to the "supposed objection" like that sidebar never happened! He is SO COOL !
Field trip to car wash with murder vehicle for both the conspirators? GUILTY
Contempt hearing!!! That homewrecker is dreadful. The defense are lying, we can ALL see whats on the screens and what troconis is doing!!! Constantly going through stuff. Put her away.
The judge saved the FBI agent’s head from exploding by calling morning recess 😂
I CANNOT STAND Shoe Horn. He urks me beyond belief. Crazy how MT sold most of her belongings to hire this clown
I didn't see MT's flurry of calls on Albany Ave.
Wish this judge was on the Delphi case.
The defence attorney thinking he can battle with an FBI and win 😂
Just looking like a pretentious buffoon.
WHY would MT walk out of the courtroom at the afternoon break.. which I don't remember ever seeing her do..... with a manilla envelope and other "office-type" items? Wouldn't you want to leave ALL your documents in a trial for your future and life at the most secure place in the courtroom>?>>> the defense table? If she goes to the bathroom, where is she going to put those items? On the bathroom floor? YUK ! Leave them on the sink counter for ANYBODY to look at ? I think that THIS is when she was able to retrieve the Custody Report and bring it back into the courtroom !!!!!!!!!! That was all planned out... she is a sly and sneaky Evil SNAKE !
I can’t stand the defense attorney’s voice.
Love the witnesses facial expressions!!
This judge, with his appearing permanent smile 😊 and being a sleep, never misses a beat, Not a single word goes over his cute bowtie and head, but I don't get why he doesn't appear to make eye contact with any of the witnesses and /or anyone in the courtroom either.
I think judge has a PC in front of him with the testimony. That’s my opinion
Yea he’s reading the transcript on his monitor
Guilty!!!
Shoe Horn should have studied how radio waves work. He is so ignorant!
If you need a lawyer and you don’t want the jury to have any simpathy with you, then you must hire this lawyer……he really irritates everyone.
I reckon that judge would be a very funny guy socially. I think he is so onto it and thinks on his feet. he must be trying hard not to roll his eyes at some of the defence attorbeys carry ons. ha
He is gorgeous and classy and well spoken this judge!!!
MT is the person who changes what is on her screen after the request for sidebar. It is her wrist with the blue sweater who touches her computer . go back to shortly before 1:59.
I think I'm in love with the judge😍
You are not alone!
This judge is an awesome fair judge, the judge in the Fani Willis case is so inexperienced and in a hurry to move on, definitely biased
Defense attorney 👎🏻
JUDGE IS HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND ANOINTED APPOINTED BY GOD. ABSOLUTELY DIVINELY POSITIONED FOR HIS PURPOSE. LAW⭐👑👑👑
That is not a mountain, lol, it's a hill.
Here comes the note folks 1:57:49
I hope she didn’t have her hands involved with folis evilness
Watch the last 10 minutes of today.
If this is true, she is in big trouble!
Deep 💩
The end of this day was a wowzer! MT’s most definitely in contempt!!
Justice is a tricky business.
The judge is an excellence in the matter.
I do not trust the Troconis.
I do trust the police and the US justice.
The judicial system is not perfect but it is the best around. IMO.
I hope the defense lawyer gets his fees for his work in this case.
He might be exausted still… Never recovered likely… IMO
😩 Does he realize how he sounds when he try’s to talk to the “experts” like he’s the expert 🤦
He is so on point. The Michelle family. Had the nerve to complain that the trial was un fair. Was that the same trial I was watching.
Rewatch crew. Mr. Whiney is making demands.
Wait so did MT possibly go past Jennifer’s home etc to see if she went back home after children being dropped at school? Possibly making sure all kids went to school that day 🤔. So many calls back n forth no way she didn’t know what was happening!
Her attorney’s aren’t doing her any favors. We learn nothing new from their cross, and it’s a waste of everyone’s time. That being said, unless the state comes with some amazing last minute evidence or witness, I’m not convinced she had anything to do with this.
Kent Is yet to come… he’s testifying against MT
@@irenetsomidis2167 Do you know this with certainty?
@@irenetsomidis2167 has that been confirmed? I’ve heard rumors about that, but nothing confirmed. That would be exciting.
At this juncture, I'm absolutely convinced that she is guilty of all three charges. Her mad dashes between Fotis's home and 80 Mountain Spring Rd. tell me that this woman didn't come to the slow realization , over time, that her boyfriend may have harmed his wife. NO, she's as knee deep in it as Fotis was. Thought they were slick, using the employee's truck, hoping he would be blamed for the murder. And the GAL's testimony yesterday where he stated that Michelle told him she would be leaving and moving out of state with her daughter as she was frustrated over the fact that Fotis's divorce was not completed. If she would tell that to a virtual stranger, what do you imagine she was saying to Fotis? I'm sure that threat made him take drastic action. He was about to lose access to his estranged wife's money, his business was bankrupt, and now the chick he cheated with was leaving him? Yeah, she was the catalyst in all of this , and I'm positive, she knew , when she told him of her plans, what he would do next.
@@AnitaH-r3f but we haven’t seen enough proof yet… you can have a gut feeling, but that’s not going to convict her. You may be right, or we may be wrong. I’m hesitant to judge because I’ve had people blame me for things for which I looked guilty by all means, but I was absolutely not. Appearance of guilt doesn’t always = guilt. But we’ll see.
See...this is how deceitful this defense attorney is....
THE MOUNTAIN?!?!?
That is NOT a mountain. Lololololol
Its like this defense attorney cannot help but lie and exagerate to provably wrong facts, pictures, words....just WOW
Only god know if she involved and lies with Jennifer disappeared will god punished her if she said she doesn’t know what happened to Jennifer telling the truth let her free
Only God know. Who’s lies
If there is a god, he is a total failure!!
@@Renee1318 Hmmm why you're saying that?
I just can’t trust FBI personal anymore. He maybe right but I can’t trust him.
Another day of the troconis trial, qnother day of learning there is no case against troconis
It's all going to add up
Sit tight, Punkin…
@@susankeene2785 all of those are crimes but she hasn't been charged with those crimes here, she has been charged with conspiracy murder which means there needs to be direct evidence that dulos and michelle hatched up a conspiracy and then dulos acted upon that plan that they hatched. If there is no evidence linking her to the conspiracy then she isn't guilty in this case, the state can very well charge her with destruction of evidence and hiding a dead body after that.
@@susankeene2785 all of those are crimes but she has not been charged with those crimes here (destruction of evidence, hiding a dead body). She has been charged with conspiracy murder which means there needs to be direct evidence that there was a conspiracy, troconis was part of that conspiracy and steps were taken in furtherance of the conspiracy. Till now there hasn't been any evidence shown that suggests that troconis and dulos aligned on a plan for the murder, what she did during the murder or after it has no bearing on this case and those emotions around her moving in etc. again have no relevance, justice system doesn't function like that.
Plenty of evidence against MT if it's put together like a puzzle.
MT lied about Fotis being with her on 23rd/24th May. She moved Fotis phone about to indicate he was with her and answered his phone call. Was with Fotis disposing garbage bags. Followed Fotis to the car wash in another car and picked him up. I could go on and on. One coincidence believable not all of them.