At 6:33 was that a mistake where you say one of the RADIAL cables is connected in junction above consumer unit. The cable you shook with your hand is a radial you said previously ? Great video. Thank you.
Because your changing the circuit (putting a new 20a breaker in) would you need to do a electrical installation certificate for that circuit or is that coverbin your ECIR ? Great video, thanks
Welcome to the world of properly conducted EICRs not £90 'drive by' reports. Broken RFCs are the inspectors everyday nightmare. Best ones are one conductor continuous and another not. Ring or not ring? Good video.
Bro loving the video! You are helping a lot of young sparks like me man ! 💯 I’ve had an old consumer ( pull out fuses instead of Mcbs; and no rcds) so basically the lighting circuits of ground and 1st floor were wired in together like a ring. So I upgraded the CU first and separated it. However now I’m getting fault on ground floor. Downstairs is kitchen, bathroom and living room. LR is perfect however first thing is there is no live going to the switch ( I havent checked the actual light fitting to see if there is current going there). But even so I am totally baffled as a young sparky why it’s tripping 😅could you offer some help please and some advice on which tests to do?
WHY are we still installing ring final circuits! They are a potential death trap in my opinion. All it takes is one loose wire and potentially 7kW of power running through a 2.5mm wire and DIY Dave extending them or splitting them to add more socket when they haven't got a clue what they are doing. Plus a ring circuit feeding 2 sockets! There is absolutely no need for them anymore ....since...the late 40s when they were introduced because of a copper shortage. Radials all the way.
On my first ever EICR, I found an open circuit on all conductors on the ring, I p**ped myself, I kept on checking over and over again, I couldn't believe it, I thought my megger was broken. Then on the next EICR I found open cpc on ring circuit. On my 20th EICR I didn't find an open ring, then I thought there must something wrong with my megger 😂
@@killerkhan I see it time and time again. This is why rfcs should be made not fit for purpose and scrapped. Everything will still work and homeowners are none the wiser. And let's be frank how many houses in the UK are inspected regularly , I've been an electrician for 12 years and don't even bother asking clients when was the last time you had your electric installation tested! I know what the answer will be😕
2x4mm twin and earths are a bloody nightmare to get in certain socket makes, also if it was a big house the fuseboard would be huge no? I do understand what your saying and in most situations it would be good just not in all
@@db-bv5rs The 2 cables may not have been a ring in the 1st place, if there is 2 cables in every point then it maybe because the there is a missing point that was buried by a plasterer and maybe there wasn't an electrician who tested afterwards these would be an example of why it may not be a ring. The further investigation is what you need to do to find out where is the cause, it was referring to halving the existing affected radial and through process of elimination until you are left with the defective leg. Once you find the damage then you can find the cause. The cause could be damp, or you may even find a socket hidden away in a cupboard with something dodgy plugged in. If you don't carry out FI then there is nothing to explain but only speculation so effectively no one can explain.
@@MrSJT could also be joint box on ring without them being connected, but if everything unplugged and IR tests done but getting low reading could mean neon effecting, or something like a tv amplifier in loft. if getting zero ohms this could mean they have been shorted. personally myself, i think something is still plugged in
How to Test a Ring Final Circuit - Ring Main or Socket Circuit - Ring Continuity & Polarity Tests ua-cam.com/video/UesYHVsZD-E/v-deo.html
Might be missing something here, but when you IR tested L-E on the Earth bar wasn't the cpcs disconnected and hanging loose.
That was my question also.....thought it might be some secret jedi trick 😁
@@labelectrical lol. Not that I'm being negative at all love the content the whole GSH team produce. Absolute legends 🙌
I love watching their stuff but this just threw me 🤣. Have I been doing it wrong.
He was mainly testing for the line insulation resistance but you are right. The correct way is to do it with the corresponding cpc
Well done Matt another banger of a video. Good insight into real fault finding and real reality. GSH the "A" Team.👍👍👍
Another great video. Thanks for posting. Cant beat a bit of megger action either!
Hi, where is the white fly lead from the RCBO terminated, looks like its going to the N bar....
🙏.. Can we have another video which talk about DB2.. Getting fed from exciting unit to new one...
At 6:33 was that a mistake where you say one of the RADIAL cables is connected in junction above consumer unit. The cable you shook with your hand is a radial you said previously ? Great video. Thank you.
🤦🏻♂️👍🏻 thanks for watching and commenting
Great video 👍
Thanks Matt, if you get the remedial perhaps you can share that with us. Have a good Christmas, even with this new variant trying to spoil everything.
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Amazing video 🔥🔥🔥
I feel your pain. A straightforward job turns into a nightmare 😂
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Because your changing the circuit (putting a new 20a breaker in) would you need to do a electrical installation certificate for that circuit or is that coverbin your ECIR ? Great video, thanks
Welcome to the world of properly conducted EICRs not £90 'drive by' reports. Broken RFCs are the inspectors everyday nightmare. Best ones are one conductor continuous and another not. Ring or not ring? Good video.
Bro loving the video! You are helping a lot of young sparks like me man ! 💯 I’ve had an old consumer ( pull out fuses instead of Mcbs; and no rcds) so basically the lighting circuits of ground and 1st floor were wired in together like a ring. So I upgraded the CU first and separated it. However now I’m getting fault on ground floor. Downstairs is kitchen, bathroom and living room. LR is perfect however first thing is there is no live going to the switch ( I havent checked the actual light fitting to see if there is current going there). But even so I am totally baffled as a young sparky why it’s tripping 😅could you offer some help please and some advice on which tests to do?
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I have almost similar problem in ring circuit I have reading in L and N but in cpc having 0.00 and I'm using fluke tester please advise.
Thanks
@5.36 JW states that a 2.5 cable is rated at 26amp, did you issue a pass on the electrical installation?
999 on end to end ring continuity are very common
Real World Megger stopped working no back up what do you do.let the instructor answer that one haha love it. Bound to happen 40 miles from base
Thanks for sharing 😎
Surely you wouldn’t send 500v down the earth bar on the consumer unit and just use the circuits cpc?
Try printing out a blank test page much easier than a scrap piece of paper with a load of figures all over.
WHY are we still installing ring final circuits! They are a potential death trap in my opinion. All it takes is one loose wire and potentially 7kW of power running through a 2.5mm wire and DIY Dave extending them or splitting them to add more socket when they haven't got a clue what they are doing. Plus a ring circuit feeding 2 sockets! There is absolutely no need for them anymore ....since...the late 40s when they were introduced because of a copper shortage. Radials all the way.
Totally agree 🦾
On my first ever EICR, I found an open circuit on all conductors on the ring, I p**ped myself, I kept on checking over and over again, I couldn't believe it, I thought my megger was broken. Then on the next EICR I found open cpc on ring circuit. On my 20th EICR I didn't find an open ring, then I thought there must something wrong with my megger 😂
@@killerkhan I see it time and time again. This is why rfcs should be made not fit for purpose and scrapped. Everything will still work and homeowners are none the wiser. And let's be frank how many houses in the UK are inspected regularly , I've been an electrician for 12 years and don't even bother asking clients when was the last time you had your electric installation tested! I know what the answer will be😕
2x4mm twin and earths are a bloody nightmare to get in certain socket makes, also if it was a big house the fuseboard would be huge no? I do understand what your saying and in most situations it would be good just not in all
Could just be 2 radials and never a ring? R1&R2 could've giving you an idea where the 2 ends were. Nevertheless still need to investigate more.
doesn’t explain the low insulation resistance tests🤔 not dead shorted but could be damp.
@@db-bv5rs The 2 cables may not have been a ring in the 1st place, if there is 2 cables in every point then it maybe because the there is a missing point that was buried by a plasterer and maybe there wasn't an electrician who tested afterwards these would be an example of why it may not be a ring. The further investigation is what you need to do to find out where is the cause, it was referring to halving the existing affected radial and through process of elimination until you are left with the defective leg. Once you find the damage then you can find the cause. The cause could be damp, or you may even find a socket hidden away in a cupboard with something dodgy plugged in. If you don't carry out FI then there is nothing to explain but only speculation so effectively no one can explain.
@@MrSJT could also be joint box on ring without them being connected, but if everything unplugged and IR tests done but getting low reading could mean neon effecting, or something like a tv amplifier in loft. if getting zero ohms this could mean they have been shorted. personally myself, i think something is still plugged in
@@db-bv5rs hence the last sentence of my original reply last year was to further investigate, otherwise we'll debating all day.
@@MrSJT sorry
‘Unsatisfactory’ result
EICR 🦾
Putting 500V down all the cpc's? Thats not great practice now is it!!!