Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method Taking the Feed to the Switch and Connecting a 1 Way Switch & Light

[@DADDYNOOB]

This has got to be one of the most straight forward switch video I have come across especially for a novice 👍

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@arthursleep8307]

Absolutely fantastic video... clear precise and not condescending.
All tutors should be like this... great job Gaz

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for watching and the great comment 👍

[@TheStandardstory]

You mate single handily helped me wire my garden office. From switches to lights to sockets. Thank you very much.

[@mikesearle7077]

I wish all instructional videos on UA-cam were this good. Thank you!

[@GSHElectrical]

Mike massive thanks for watching and the support. Gaz 👍🏻

[@ChrisTian-uw9tq]

This is just beautiful to watch. Have been close to burn out with work for the last months and now my job ended and I can focus on my apartment, replacing lightswitches, adding new lights and sockets and to watch/listen to you, is super calming as too, informative. Thank you very much for your efforts!

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for the great comment and watching 👍🏻

[@1000Zebedee]

Excellent video. I taught joinery for many years and used the same mantra: state, re-state, re-enforce. I look forwards to learning more from your great presentations.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍🦾

[@vievlogs589]

I think this is one of the best videos you have produced Mr GSH 🦾

[@ibellchristian9773]

The best tutor by a country mile. I wish he could be cloned and put into every classroom.

[@GSHElectrical]

Massive thanks for the positive comment 👍🏻

[@earlyyearslearningisfun]

Thanks for explaining the 2 plate method so clearly.

[@davidseed2939]

Why is it called 2 plate

[@Matt-td9wx]

@@davidseed2939 it's using 2 plates in the ceiling rose instead of 3

[@GluteMaximuz]

Interesting stuff. I now use dry liner boxes instead of metal, to reduce any effect on smart devices used.

[@GSHElectrical]

Great point 👍🏻

[@cuebj]

I feel good! Pro proving I'm correct to do what I do. I've had to redo sloppy work by most registered professional electricians I've ever used so I worked out how to do it this way - long wires in box, fold over, keep wires as clean as possible, sleeving the correct size for wires, Wago connectors And I scrape out every trace of plaster or paint.
I think I've found a solid, diligent domestic electrician for my next job - new up to the minute consumer units with separate circuits for each kitchen appliance.

[@michealplater9007]

Hi as a sparky in Austraila, have been taking the cables to the switch for years, one cable at the light fitting and most connections can be done on the floor, not up a ladder. The earth conductor, sorry CPC has been insulated for about 35 years. Great to see how different countries carry out electrical works. England appears to use a lot of SWA, where we use PVC conduit and single/double insulated cables.

[@noddylloyd]

What a great teacher. Fantastic video! Thank you. I will be watching your others before I wire up my new shed.

[@eifionstores2460]

Great method, used it years ago when wall lights were all the rage! no room for loop-in behind a wall light normally.

[@GSHElectrical]

Great comment

[@jmohammad3762]

Thanks Gaz familiar with the wiring but always forget the terminology. Thanks for reminding me of two plate method. Good video for new learners and a reminder for old boys like myself.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 🦾

[@paul756uk2]

Undoubtedly the best way of doing it for several reasons. Firstly you're not working above your head trying to wire up a load of cables into a pendant that will probably be removed to install a fancy fitting so all the wires end up in a mess in a choc block and secondly you don't have the issue of confusion with a blue switch return invariably not sleeved being wired to the neutral but you did mention that. Also the wago connectors are brilliant.

[@anelectrician]

What if you needed an unswitched line conductor at the ceiling position for a fan or life and safety detection like smoke, heat or CO2 ?
You'd be stuffed with the two plate method.

[@D_5821]

Had to do this in college and was so confused. This helped a lot.

[@GSHElectrical]

Wiring Diagram Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method Taking the Feed to the Switch - 1 Way Switch & Light ua-cam.com/video/A19SCa6FUss/v-deo.html
This may also help 🦾. Thanks for commenting. Gaz

[@middleagedpunk8923]

What an excellent instructor. Thank you for a very helpful video!

[@GSHElectrical]

middleagedpunk thanks

[@JayG2K]

Agree nicely explained.

[@C1098O]

These tuition presentations are a great help and very easy to follow, many thanks.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks Philip 👍🏻

[@C1098O]

@@GSHElectrical thank you, brilliant 👏

[@andytap560]

Ive been en using method for a while now,mainly because it makes the whole circuit servicable with no hidden junction boxes or things to fail.

[@richardsandwell2285]

A very neat installation and in many circumstances, this is so much better than having lots of cables at the ceiling rose.
The only thing I am not keen on and I do realise they have uses is the traditional shallow back box, if I was chopping this into a wall I would go for a 25mm socket back box if it was possible.

[@GSHElectrical]

Great advice 👍

[@richardwood1575]

Been looking for this simple explanation all day, thank you.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍

[@neiltrevatt]

I find it funny people say doesn’t matter what way feed and switchline go but always put feed in common, when I use a 2 way switch for a 1way light I always put feed in L1 and switchline in common that way L2 is not live when switch is off, also make sure switch is up correct way before screening back to box

[@connerwright1322]

These are awesome videos, really helped me over the past 2 years coming up on the tools!

[@BritishBeachcomber]

Good to see you doubling the conductor ends. I worked out that was the best way when I first learnt electrics - at the age of 13 ;) !!!

[@mathman0101]

Exceptionally clear Gaz well done GSH.
I am glad you are recommending installation of AFDD-RCDs Type A breakers for circuits. That’s also the latest advice in the USA NEC 2020 standard. I would also put in for the socket and lighting circuits, AFDD-RCDs at the first socket protecting the downstream sockets and lights thereafter. Not sure these have taken off in the UK - Leviton do that here as do Schneider, Square D, Hubbell, Eaton, GE.
Offering two points of equipment and personal protection
1.) From breaker to socket/light
2.) from first socket to all other sockets/lights.
This provides two safety points and protects against failure. Latest version of RCD and AFDD are much better in handling Mix of AC and DC equipment in residential circuits especially transient and over voltages. Add surge protection class 1 and 2 and you’ve layers multiple protection making residences more stable and safer.
Once that’s sorted you move onto power quality issues but that’s a whole different ball game but one that’s going to be very important in the future.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for the very detailed comment 🦾. Gaz

[@sandymcnair5298]

Very Sad that it AFDD will become more prominent in the UK in the years to come in lieu of investing in the training of skilled electricians and stop allowing cheap crap to be sold in the UK. AFDD will only make suppliers rich, but will not make any difference to a fire started or deaths in the household due to electrical fires.

[@nilofido411]

I am still amazed at the archaic use of the twin and earth cables.... but at least finally I see the use of RCBO’s adopted

[@neilcowmeadow3551]

Super-clear, and super-useful. Thanks for making it simple and elegant.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍

[@Justyburger]

I moved from the UK to NZ and here we always have the feeds through the switches. No old UK ceiling roses here. I prefer it, even though switches can get very busy. Just my personal choice, but I don't use the loop terminal for the neutral. I put common neutrals and Earths all in their own connector block stuffed into the back of the flush box, so there are only lives at the switches. I like deeper boxes too. I hate having to stuff cables into tight areas. Also I never use 1.0m for lights. Always 1.5.

[@MultirotorView]

This is the best way for modern light fittings as well as smart switches needing a neutral to operate. Another note you don’t need to double over those CPCs if you have 2 in the same terminal.

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[@carsonelias7432]

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[@montyswoodworkscrafts2232]

Great video, thanks for taking the time to create and share. Used this technique to wire in the lights for my garden cabin.

[@kbultray]

Gary many years ago when I was an apprentice taking a neutral through the switch was a no no. Never did understand why, makes wiring much simpler. Trouble is picking a new feed up from a wall switch plastered in switch box could be messy.
Most lighting circuits were spidered out from one of those square BICC junction boxes. Happy days !

[@raychambers3646]

That's why you put brown sleeve on the blue wire to tell you it's not two plate.

[@ramz8637]

Really straight forward, currently an apprentice and these videos help !!

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for the support 👍🏻

[@danielhammond4782]

Thanks very much for this video and well explain of the two plate method. I have learn more from this video.

[@malltheway2165]

Excellent thank you

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 🦾

[@abdoaiman]

Great man & great video.. Thank you so much

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 🦾

[@isitrollinbob]

clear concise perfect thANK YOU

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers]

As usual Gaz, excellent presentation. Thanks.👍

[@GSHElectrical]

Massive thanks 🦾

[@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers]

@@GSHElectrical do you know it's Sunday? Put you feet up and sip a beer. Stop working. But, the trouble you took to reply was appreciated.

[@GSHElectrical]

Just sat down with a large glass of wine... my wife has a channel so no rest for me 🤣.

[@Omey731]

to add another benefit to this, this is future proof as many smart switches require both L&N to work so having this at the switch is handy and future proof :)

[@steveblack1210]

Clear and easy to understand. Excellent channel.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 🦾

[@Dogandhorselover]

Another great clip to help thank you Gary

[@154electrician]

You should make a video on how to install a CU and keep the fire rating , all these videos and pictures on youtube off nice neat boards but leaving big holes everywhere.

[@unapalomablanc]

Great video and teaching, thanks for posting it.

[@ir7868]

Brilliant teaching method , better then collage

[@Sparkyt552]

Thank you so much mate you dont understand how much you have helped me

[@GSHElectrical]

Not a problem 👍

[@stamfordmeetup]

great video, both concise but with all the detail.

[@RWATraineeElectrician]

Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍

[@allysonhanks7367]

Hello, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.

[@larrysullivan6536]

Brilliant well explained and easy to do I want to do this in all my bedrooms to make them safe as I have an old house with old wining thanks buddy well done cheers

[@julianfisher6373]

Spot on in every way, just so easy to understand ! Many thanks & keep up the good work.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@Candisa]

Remembering things is easier when taught the logic behind them.
3-plate: line goes to light (1), switch(es) (2), back to light (3)
2-plate: line goes to switch (1) and then to the light (2)

[@alistaircook6900]

Great video. Very informative.

[@JohnLeeIM]

Thank you for this video, had to wire up two lights in my garage, you made this make complete sense!!

[@Toffeezigger]

Interesting stuff. How times have changed. Served my time 40 years ago and back then there were two types of lighting circuits- loop in at the rose or junction box method. Connecting neutrals at the switch was not common practice. I wonder what my old instructor would have made of this. “What! no red sleeve on the switch wire”!

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for watching and the great comment. Gaz 👍🏻

[@geoffriley475]

the looping in at the light fitting has not been done for years at least 30 yrs, plus now it should be brown sleeving

[@electricalstuff259]

@@geoffriley475 I'm working on site at the minute and they still do it.

[@LindaTheLearner]

Gaz .. I have been watching all your new lighting vids .. Thanks .. they are excellent 🏆 . A vid that goes on to show connections to multiple downlighters, and also 2-way, using 2 plate would be ace 👍 (when you have a gap in your 14 hour working day !!)

[@theoxfordmindforeveryone563]

very helpful, thank you!

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks

[@brahimabdelsadek9534]

Thank you master.

[@GSHElectrical]

brahim abdelsadek 😁🦾

[@maximus1210]

Fantastic Video , helps a lot on my course . Thank you

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻

[@eddprice4571]

Great video Gaz as always 👍 I've bin using this method alot recently with all the rewires having down lights ..... acne of the ceiling 🤣

[@GSHElectrical]

🦾

[@FoxDren]

definetly intereting watch. been looking at reskilling into a trade as been stuck in unskilled roles for a while. just need to find an apprenticeship somewhere.

[@FluxLabsProjects]

Fab as usual, thanks!

[@GSHElectrical]

Flux Labs Projects 🦾

[@terrisunday7412]

Absolutely fantastic.
thank you.

[@suhaibduco4496]

Realy I enjoyed this video and this channel🙏shukrn

[@GSHElectrical]

Thank you 👍

[@geef9027]

Very well explained thanks, a big help.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@rhysdavies8947]

Neutral at the switch allows for retrofitting of smart switches that require a neutral.
One of the biggest things to come through the industry behind your decision to include it.

[@geraldmutarisi9948]

Thank you so much

[@fahadasad8118]

Explained so well.. love it

[@robbiegreen7791]

These videos are golden mate great work

[@GSHElectrical]

Massive thanks for the kind words 👍

[@badbanano]

Taking a knife to those tiny conductors is an absolute recipe for fire or failure. It’s not open to debate.

[@GSHElectrical]

Stripping Twin and Earth Cable’s - Electricians’ Knife vs Twin and Earth Cable Strippers ua-cam.com/video/Xbdp-ziEzqg/v-deo.html

[@allysonhanks7367]

Hello Chris, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.

[@RichardArblaster]

Thanks for sharing 😎

[@juttintheair7105]

fantastic loved it

[@Andy-lq6zw]

Nice one, thanks!!

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻

[@alpachino468]

I wish I had your skill and knowledge...

[@Harjitsingh-cc3tr]

Thanku

[@marklawrence64]

Thanks for sharing this, very helpful. 👍🏽

[@jamesortolano3983]

Not sure why yr grounds were sleved,I guess that's code in UK?
Extra work ,however the time was off set by use of Wago's.
Very clear,concise video. I do it different here in states. But it's also we use different boxes,nd switches.
Thanx for the info

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks James for watching and the great comment 👍. Gaz

[@monkeybusiness1559]

Brilliant this video was exactly what I was looking for 👍

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍

[@iDrive-365]

Brilliant Video
I think you should do the 2 way sockets video with same settings as an add on
I have seen the one you posted but this Camera Angle is more clearer and accurate

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for the feedback - trying to get better each video 🦾

[@iDrive-365]

@@GSHElectrical Sir
You are beacon of light, a teacher who is pouring his knowledge for free.
Keep doing the good work. God Bless

[@arbensallaku]

Cool stuff, thanks

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for the support

[@Ben-zn8pe]

You doubled over them browns spot on 😂👌

[@andrexxxuk]

Very informative-just stop saying like bloody so!!!!!😇

[@GSHElectrical]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ajadventures688]

Very helpful. Thanks 👍🏼

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@johncollins464]

Very helpful thankyou

[@germancarfan360]

brilliant video, explanation, visuals 👌

[@James-op6ls]

ASMR gold

[@johnstancliff7328]

thats how we do it here in N. America!

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for the feedback 🦾. Gaz

[@allysonhanks7367]

Hello John, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.

[@rogwilson1834]

Really good instructional video, never heard of Wago connectors before. However, having spent nearly 50 years in industrial safety, appalled at the use of a knife for wire stripping. Remember an apprentice cable stripping and stabbed his thigh. Would have died had we not got our own medics and surgery on site. Still.l using my 50 year old Bib strippers!

[@GSHElectrical]

👍🏻😀

[@user-xt5ry9jp3r]

Excellent👍

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks

[@Chris-hy6jy]

This method does have the potential to drastically increase the loop impedance due to all the switch drops. The supply to the last light on the circuit has been looped in and out of every switch on the circuit. On a fairly average sized 1mm circuit, a Zs of 2 - 3 ohms is quite normal. As long as it doesn't exceed 5.8 ohms on a 6A breaker all is well but it's just something to bear in mind.

[@sensibledriver933]

We have used the old method for donkey's years without issue. Why the need to change something that works?

[@mjames978]

To help mitigate could use thicker wire eg 1.5mm sq

[@elchapooo6668]

Nice one fella love the video 👋👋👋

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks

[@happyfamily8624]

very good video thank you for sharing this video.

[@Sroper1993]

Hager and Schneider give you a neutral loop connection on the back of their switches

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for commenting 🦾👍

[@henrytaylor2542]

Nice

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks

[@marktime61]

CPC ? Earth in my day ;-)

[@elchapooo6668]

Thank you mate much appreciate should be able to keep my job now haha 😂 ⚡️

[@user-vl1hb9dg6f]

lovely

[@charliechimples]

Great vid once again, thanks for sharing.🐵

[@terencewright2223]

Excellent video ,thank you very much.
How things have changed since I was doing this!

[@DaniyalAR3006.]

Wow.

[@manofnorse]

@7:44 IMHO, the non-levered Wago 2273-202 (good for 2.5mm and rated 24A per IEC/EN) would have been the better choice for that ;) (for both the PE, which is not needed in this switch anyway, as well as the N)

[@colincrooky]

Why is it called the two plate rule? What do the plates represent? Thank you.

[@allysonhanks7367]

Hello, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.