WHY You SHOULDN'T BUY THE GH5! VLOG Issues 😥

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  • @georger.rmartinhat9366
    @georger.rmartinhat9366 7 років тому +67

    first mistake , taking advice from amateur "travel video" guy lol

  • @kpopRC
    @kpopRC 7 років тому +340

    stop telling ppl "don't buy this camera" because you don't know how to properly operate it.

    • @TheFilmmakingChannel
      @TheFilmmakingChannel 7 років тому +18

      Exactly. I also get the feeling he's pushing that agenda.

    • @meowanderson2189
      @meowanderson2189 6 років тому +3

      you have info on how to properly operate to not get this???

    • @Onyeakak
      @Onyeakak 6 років тому +14

      Shoot in 10 bit and properly expose for the skintones. Vlog-l is mostly for controlled situations where you can expose correctly.

    • @meowanderson2189
      @meowanderson2189 6 років тому

      thx! im new

    • @Onyeakak
      @Onyeakak 6 років тому

      No problem!

  • @evdokmv
    @evdokmv 7 років тому +167

    "Don't buy GH5 because I suck at working with LOG footage!"
    Learn first, then shoot your advices.

    • @TylerHansenVideo
      @TylerHansenVideo 7 років тому +33

      "I also don't understand that LOG is never meant for 8-bits. Sell your cameras guys!"

    • @ChrispyArt
      @ChrispyArt 7 років тому +3

      THIS
      Was about to write another comment like yours but why if you already said it on point.

  • @tonydaazntiger319
    @tonydaazntiger319 7 років тому +518

    If you're going to put a click-bait title like "DON"T BUY THE GH5", don't put an affiliate Amazon link in the description that goes straight to a page where you can purchase the GH5. Extremely hypocritical.
    Also I don't know why you're speaking in absolutes like "DON"T BUY THE GH5" because one OPTIONAL aspect of the cameras system isn't working specifically for YOU. The GH5 is absolutely loaded with features that appeal to a broad array of consumers. To completely write off the camera, and say that people shouldn't buy it, is just your frustration talking. Don't compromise your integrity as a filmmaker just to pull in viewers. If you have a problem with V-log, then title your video appropriately, and don't try to pull in views with a click-bait title. I'm sure you can tell from the sharp increase of dislikes on this video compared to your other ones, that many people disagree with your findings.
    Finally, a quick search on the internet would have revealed that the problem lies with Premiere and not v-log:
    www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-gh5-lab-review-update-clarification/

  • @DaveKatague
    @DaveKatague 7 років тому +97

    Whilst I love this channel, the message is completely different to the CLICKBAIT title. You're saying don't buy VLOG not the ENTIRE CAMERA. I don't agree with the way you're negatively putting entire cameras under the wrong perception for views. This over time will cause me to slow stop trusting you and what you say at least with your titles.

  • @joeyehrgott3829
    @joeyehrgott3829 7 років тому +124

    so quick to slander the entire camera.. lol what a joke. unsubscribed!

    • @jeremydulac5920
      @jeremydulac5920 6 років тому +5

      Same here! I am done with this channel. So much click bait

    • @IAMLXGEND
      @IAMLXGEND 5 років тому +1

      @@jeremydulac5920 thats the nature of youtube, buddy. Even UA-cam themselves tells creators you need a title that is captivating and will cause users to click. If you don't include a HEALTHY amount of "clickbait" no one is going to watch your videos. And if no one watches your videos when you do this for a living, you go broke. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.

  • @ivyfeenix
    @ivyfeenix 6 років тому +45

    The ratings for this video has spoken...!

  • @ammarkhalaf7505
    @ammarkhalaf7505 7 років тому +60

    DON'T BUY VLOG would've been better title than DON'T BUY THE GH5
    Just me saying

  • @SullyCortez
    @SullyCortez 7 років тому +113

    Are you serious right now??? Even Panasonic says DO NOT SHOOT VLOG IN 8BIT !! Everyone who has owned a GH4 knows not to shoot VLOG in 8bit the codec simply can't handle it. And when shooting VLOG I would ALWAYS recommend shooting externally to completely bypass the codecs compression algorithm. THAT is why you're seeing "red and green splotches" as you so eloquently put it which btw has a technical term... "macro-blocking" and it happens because the codec can't handle how much you're pushing it because there isn't enough data. Hence why you need to shoot 10bit when shooting VLOG. You're a huge channel and you put out a video showing basically that you don't know to use or work with LOG footage properly otherwise you would know this blatant and rudimentary fact. Sigh, this is why I hate bigger channels putting out videos like this because you haven't done your research or homework and because something doesn't , and I quote "work right out of the box immediately", you're telling people they shouldn't buy or even return a specific device because YOU didn't know how to use it properly. I've shot VLOG L for broadcast television and corporate video projects for multiple clients with both the GH4 and now GH5 and NOT ONE PERSON has complained about "red and green splotches that make the video unusable" because...I actually read up on how to properly use VLOG before attempting to use it professionally. To each his own, but to me this seems like you had no idea what you were doing, shot some footage incorrectly, then blamed it on the camera when it "didn't work" how you want it to. Not trying to hate, just hate the ignorance that is so prevelant in this video.

    • @Shanebainn
      @Shanebainn 7 років тому +4

      go on son

    • @kelvinjimenez7023
      @kelvinjimenez7023 5 років тому +8

      Great comment. The people don't read Panasonic guides and then start talking sh*t about something that the Brand told that you can't do.

    • @sironconi938
      @sironconi938 5 років тому +1

      What setting do you recommend shooting when you want to slow motion? I don't have vlog yet, just wondering if you can do vlog with the slow motion frame rates

    • @adventuresofjandk
      @adventuresofjandk 5 років тому

      Sully Cortez well said

    • @NA_14
      @NA_14 4 роки тому +4

      I appreciate this comment so much, because as someone trying to get back into film, theres a lot of information out there and its hard to filter through the wrong voices. I was inclined to take his word for it, which sucks because I have been looking at this camera for months. Thank you.

  • @CinecomCrew
    @CinecomCrew 7 років тому +111

    Just a thought, but could it be that your model has a malfunction? I've been loving v-log so far. I used it in various situations (low light, daylight, studio,..) and had super great results.

    • @IgnazTheGreat
      @IgnazTheGreat 6 років тому +3

      Hey, my vLog has the color issue. But I also edit in Premiere. Where are you editing?

    • @imp6990
      @imp6990 6 років тому +4

      Uninstal that garbage premiere softwere and instal Edius. You will not be disapointed

    • @SufiSafari
      @SufiSafari 5 років тому +1

      Cinicom❤️

    • @michaelmannucci8949
      @michaelmannucci8949 5 років тому +11

      He's shooting in 8-bit. You can't use V-LOG and 8-bit, you have to use 10-bit.

    • @grey_tracer5283
      @grey_tracer5283 Рік тому +1

      ​@@michaelmannucci8949 isn't V-Log automatically 10-bit? Don't think you need to choose the bitrate seperately.....

  • @muamermujevic
    @muamermujevic 7 років тому +32

    So I just watched a whole video about your VLOG hate, but the message is "Don't buy GH5, and if you did, return it". This was such a lame clickbait. You lost my respect man.

  • @lmlxmetalhead
    @lmlxmetalhead 7 років тому +27

    Just subbed the other day and now I'm second guessing that action. Honestly, I think you are slamming an incredible video camera for a feature that is optional. The GH5 outperforms most of its competition in every way, and the lack of good VLOG does not outweigh the other amazing features this camera offers. I really have enjoyed browsing the other videos in your channel, and you're very smart and articulate your thoughts fluidly. But this video just left an absolutely sour taste in my mouth.

  • @NakeanWickliff
    @NakeanWickliff 7 років тому +33

    Vlog came from the Varicam and gh4 users begged for it and it was delivered. There was only one caveat. You HAVE TO RECORD IN 10bit. This is so well documented it's insane that someone on his level doesn't know. That's why we got 10bit internal. Notice all his footage was shot in 60p. Unless he was shooting to the inferno recorders he was capturing 8bit. Purchasing Vlog is a pita but for a good reason. So noobs wouldn't do exactly what this expereienced dude did. Grab the camera, shoot in Vlog with inadequate data (8bit) and complain that Vlog is broken.

  • @danielabrahamsson5769
    @danielabrahamsson5769 7 років тому +14

    Complaining on 8-bit V-log is like shoting with Jpeg and trying to edit it like Raw-footage. Hope you have a color calibrated monitor that supports 10-bit when u switch to Resolve... Or else you will probably make a "part 2" of this video... And blame the gh5 and Resolve...

  • @ichidomo
    @ichidomo 7 років тому +4

    Just because V-log doesn't work out for you in 8 bit, the whole camera with all of its features and profiles are not worth it at all? It has been well known since v-log came out for the gh4 it doesn't do well in 8 bit, that's the very nature of. 10 bit v-log still has to be explored when shot internally since it's sensitive to wrong exposure but it's far from unusable atm from what I have seen and that's even without the summer FW update.
    You have a lot of subscibers and young aspiring filmmakers that don't understand the true tech behind colorscience, grading and log profiles and will believe whatever you say since you are a 'role figure'. By stating to not buy the Gh5 or get a refund only based your user experience with v-log is pure misinformation for your audience.

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock 5 років тому +8

    Good thing I never use V-LOG and hate colour grading 😁

    • @NOMADPROSTORYREAL
      @NOMADPROSTORYREAL 3 роки тому +1

      That correct for vloging colour grading is not important, but for cinematic OK colour grading we need it

  • @dirqueleyr
    @dirqueleyr 7 років тому +63

    Interesting thought process.
    "I have all these problems with GH5 footage and Premiere"
    "My footage looks weird in Premiere. Premiere can't handle GH5 footage as well as other NLEs"
    "Because it's probably not a Premiere problem. Let's not bother checking it out on anything else."
    The Gh5 is garbage, time to return it!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  7 років тому +3

      +Dirque Leyr vlog has nothing to do with premiere.

    • @dirqueleyr
      @dirqueleyr 7 років тому +12

      Everything you posted reminds me of the Cinema5D claims that got retracted.
      www.eoshd.com/2017/03/cinema5d-slate-panasonic-gh5-call-v-log-10bit-unusable/
      www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-gh5-lab-review-update-clarification/

    • @dirqueleyr
      @dirqueleyr 7 років тому +18

      +travelfeels Cinema5D noted:
      "The consequence of using this codec however led to incorrect results when evaluating the Panasonic GH5’s 10-bit Vlog performance as it affected my files in a way that introduced an unexpectedly large quality loss within Adobe Premiere Pro. It seems like the quality issues previously found in my original test were caused by an error of the Adobe Premiere Pro software in connection with the Apple ProRes HQ codec. While the reasons for the error have not been clarified, anybody who intends to use Adobe Premiere Pro in connection with 10-bit files in Vlog recorded on the Panasonic GH5, should consider the conversion steps carefully.
      Using the Apple ProRes HQ codec on a daily basis, I was surprised that the conversion affected the Vlog files from the Panasonic GH5 in my initial test so severely. After reevaluation, it has become clear that the Apple ProRes HQ codec is more than capable to hold the 10-bit information Vlog requires and the error in connection with Adobe Premiere Pro needs to be reported and investigated. Furthermore the Panasonic GH5 in Vlog mode exhibits a magenta / green color shift in some parts of the image, that was further exaggerated by said error."

  • @tommytwotraps3792
    @tommytwotraps3792 7 років тому +47

    I thought you were above click-bait titles, but guess not. Super disappointed by this video. I was enjoying your channel and thought you were a serious filmmaker, but this video has lowered my respect for you. To tell your entire audience to "NOT BUY THE GH5" simply because you're having some frustrations with the grading is ridiculous. Unsubscribed.

  • @AsparagusVideo
    @AsparagusVideo 4 роки тому +3

    Well, I'll be sure to stay away from this channel then.

  • @SakkiDuran
    @SakkiDuran 3 роки тому +2

    so basically "don't buy it because I don't know how to use it"? lol

  • @victorbart
    @victorbart 7 років тому +48

    Wait you say to people return your camera because of 1 little issue you encounter? You are over reacting hahahaha

    • @zyllz2414
      @zyllz2414 5 років тому

      IKR AND THEN HE PUTS A LINK TO GO BUY IT IN THE DESCRIPTION

  • @stereoheartsrnb
    @stereoheartsrnb 7 років тому +7

    What camera did you film this video with? The description says GH5

  • @TylerHansenVideo
    @TylerHansenVideo 7 років тому +49

    Any shooter worth their salt knows you NEVER shoot LOG in 8 bit. If you want slow-mo LOG, you should've switched to 1080p 10Bit.

    • @mathiasgeck-kameramanncolo8221
      @mathiasgeck-kameramanncolo8221 7 років тому +3

      Agree. The only exception where this worked for me was the old C300 MK1 with C-Log. But something extremely flat as SLog2/3 or VLog in 8Bit clearly falls apart to banding hell when stretched out. 256 values per channel are way too less, obvious that it can't work. Total nonsense too completely destroy this 10bit-capable camera because the 8Bit Log-Footage looks bad (and wondering if that is an LUT or NLE issue...damn, thats just obvious by definition)....misinforming video, unfortunately with a lot of clicks

    • @MrOffshore
      @MrOffshore 4 роки тому +1

      Mathias Geck - Kameramann & Colorist the reason it has so many views is the camera is very popular and people are researching it inside and out...when you see a clickbait title like this people flock to it to see why they shouldn’t spend the $$$ only to be misinformed.

  • @carstenweizer2949
    @carstenweizer2949 7 років тому +13

    You do some great content dont get me wrong but it feels like you made that upgrade because you heard that vlog was better without knowing why its better. Vlog is a feature for on set filmmakers where your not dependent on slo mo. it requires 10 bit 4:2:2. its only then that it allows for the smooth transition between colors thats what 10 bit 4:2:2 means. for run and gun filmmaking your better off shooting in cinelike d or v because then you can get that flat image but still have access to the higher frame rate features because its not flattening out the image as much not requiring higher bit rates.

    • @uncledez8
      @uncledez8 6 років тому

      Carsten Weizer Finally someone who knows what they're talking about.

    • @alejandrocampollo
      @alejandrocampollo 6 років тому

      i shoot a lot in slow mo 120fps on the GH5
      i usually shot cine D, i also have VLOG but i do lots of 120fps.
      I heard VLOG is good only when 10bit
      I cant shoot 120fps with 10bit tho, what do you recommend?

  • @jasoncox9256
    @jasoncox9256 7 років тому +64

    It's amazing how much complaining there is about this camera (and every other model). It can be simple: if you want great skin tones-Canon. Great low light-Sony. Great all-around video-Panasonic. If you want the image quality of a $50K camera, spend $50K. Everybody seems to want everything for nothing and a magical LUT that will make it look pro. When you buy something brand new, there are going to be software comparability issues. That's what happens when tech and software companies are releasing new products every season by demand. The "budget" camera market has definitely become spoiled with unrealistic expectations.
    I appreciate your review and opinion.

    • @JonatanContrerasjononthemoon
      @JonatanContrerasjononthemoon 7 років тому

      Ja Co dude, right on.

    • @marcosansalone
      @marcosansalone 6 років тому

      I totally agree.

    • @kelvinjimenez7023
      @kelvinjimenez7023 5 років тому

      I totally agree with your comment. I consider that if you wanna more of a camera under $2,000 you're actually crazy! If you want Alexa look you should buy an Alexa!

    • @MrOffshore
      @MrOffshore 4 роки тому

      It appears the mistake is on his end, Panasonic explains not to shoot V-Log in 8-bit, it must be shot in 10-bit.

  • @ucefkh
    @ucefkh 7 років тому +10

    I liked your stuff but this video proves you need to go learn how to use the GH5 or improve your Adobe premier skills bro!

  • @RussellEstridge
    @RussellEstridge 5 років тому +10

    I'm surprised you haven't deleted this video or come up with a redemption video. I'm even more surprised you of all people would post something so Click Bait and incorrect information.

    • @raksh9
      @raksh9 2 роки тому +1

      Matti's videos are created to attract clicks. That's their primary purpose. Even if it's incorrect or misleading, he leaves it up because future people will click. I unsubbed from this flaming dungball years ago for that reason.

    • @RussellEstridge
      @RussellEstridge 2 роки тому

      @@raksh9 same

  • @chris.murdock
    @chris.murdock 5 років тому +2

    this video is a failure....... 606 likes vs 1.3k dislikes.

  • @dimuthdesoyza
    @dimuthdesoyza 7 років тому +14

    Must be sony user!

  • @eyecandyVISION
    @eyecandyVISION 7 років тому +6

    you just started a shitstorm in all the GH5 groups haha :D interesting to see this but I don't have any issues with V-Log. Just like really got my hands on my first properly lit V-Log L footage straight out of my GH5. Can't believe how great the colors look and how much of a difference it makes if you shoot LOG
    i love you anyways matti ♥ :-D

  • @StillPictureProduction
    @StillPictureProduction 7 років тому +14

    I completely disagree. Slog is atrocious compared to vlog, EVEN in 8 bit on the gh5. Light touch on the slog and it crumbles. I pushed hard on the vlog, both in 8 and 10 and it hardly fell apart. I really don't know what you're talking about.

    • @alejandrocampollo
      @alejandrocampollo 6 років тому

      i shoot a lot in slow mo 120fps on the GH5
      i usually shot cine D, i also have VLOG
      I heard VLOG is good only when 10bit
      I cant shoot 120fps with 10bit tho, what do you recommend?

  • @ramymelhem
    @ramymelhem 4 роки тому +1

    Most disliked video on your channel, Matti. I hope you figured out how to properly use Vlog on the GH5 since this video was made.

  • @lukasheining173
    @lukasheining173 7 років тому +20

    I use my phone and my GoPro for most of my videos, upgraded to a Sony A7II a few months ago and my films didn't get much better - it's not the gear but how you use it!

    • @realdavidpayne
      @realdavidpayne 7 років тому +1

      Lukas Heining can't be a gear collector**

  • @punchlinemedia9580
    @punchlinemedia9580 2 роки тому +1

    I have found the fix!!! Project Setting > Renderer> Use CUDA GPU accelartor. Fixed mine

  • @LUMETRY
    @LUMETRY 5 років тому +3

    Hahahha so you mean don't buy the gh5 but you only talk about vlog 😂😂😂. Next video don't buy the Sony a7iii? All camera have good and bad point but be honest and don't use a click bait title. Matti are you looking for more subscribers? Try to use vlog on DaVinci and not on premiere you will see the true!

  • @digitaldevigner4080
    @digitaldevigner4080 7 років тому +5

    More irresponsible journalism. Please learn how to use V-log before you spread lies all over the internet. Plenty of professional users have found V-log on the GH5 to be very good. You clearly just don't know how to use it and then quickly spewed out your half baked opinion. Do your research and figure out why it doesn't look as good with Premiere. Take this video down now.

  • @scotmcdonald7710
    @scotmcdonald7710 6 років тому +1

    I get that you're trying to create content that attracts viewers, but please re-consider posting videos like this in the future. This is obvious click bait that isn't supported by your comments. Shooting V-LOG in 8bit and you're outraged at the results? That's where you lost credibility regarding this topic. You need to gain more experience and work on your craft before making these kind of uninformed comments. Perhaps just focus on actual work and shooting for a while before passing judgement on things you don't appear to have a grasp of. At the very least, you could have entitled this video "Don't Purchase V-Log if You Primarily shoot in 8bit" - that would have made a bit more sense based on your point of view. But "Don't Buy a GH5!"... come on.

  • @ThomasGTV
    @ThomasGTV 3 роки тому +1

    Matt what the heck is this Bro???? Who paid you to say this garbage??

  • @renatozanardo9648
    @renatozanardo9648 2 роки тому +1

    I confirm. 8 bit is really bad, some colors are almost suppressed. I thought it depended on the HOYA variable ND, but that's the V-log

  • @LunaticandBull
    @LunaticandBull 7 років тому +2

    Well, I didn't buy a GH5 for V log, so guess I'm quite happy with it as it is.

  • @thehawknelsonfreak
    @thehawknelsonfreak 7 років тому +4

    It's hard to really know what you are talking about with the VLOG when you show the video footage graded. That means it could be your process of color grading.

  • @StanleyMOV
    @StanleyMOV 7 років тому +2

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    Love that site.

    • @mattih
      @mattih  7 років тому

      +Stanley's Stuff yea they have some great stuff!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  7 років тому +1

      +Stanley's Stuff yea they have some great stuff!

  • @JackStolz
    @JackStolz 7 років тому +3

    I think my color-blindness made it so I actually can't see this issue. Even after pausing I was having a hard time identifying the problem. All you footage still looked awesome to me! Haha

  • @arieljgd
    @arieljgd 5 років тому +2

    You should delete this video. People are still watching this and getting the wrong information. V log L is meant for 10 bit.

    • @ach9brb96
      @ach9brb96 4 роки тому

      Do you think i should go for the gh5 ?

    • @arieljgd
      @arieljgd 4 роки тому +1

      @@ach9brb96 I don't know your needs. But its still a great camera, especially if you pair with an speedbooster and dont need auto focus

    • @ach9brb96
      @ach9brb96 4 роки тому

      Thank you for the advice 😊

  • @nealprinsloo8076
    @nealprinsloo8076 7 років тому +5

    To an untrained eye it's tough to see what you're talking about even though you're pointing it out.

  • @stevenmoorebanjo
    @stevenmoorebanjo 4 роки тому +2

    Unsubscribed.

  • @kuplayfordvalls6781
    @kuplayfordvalls6781 7 років тому +3

    WTF dude?! Just shoot on Cinelike D and turn contrast all the way down. You´ll see that you can see pretty pretty amazing results with minor color-grading. Plus you have to keep in mind the price too. 2K for that level of performance and flexibility? Preeeetty good if u ask me...

  • @LeeZavitz
    @LeeZavitz 7 років тому +1

    I know this isn't a solution but I have been recording to the atomos ninja inferno 10bit and it looks amazing! I can also record 4k 60fps 10bit. And the footage is so easy to edit in premiere. That said, the compressed 10bit to sd card is almost impossible to edit in premiere.

  • @ProVisionVideo
    @ProVisionVideo 7 років тому +12

    Seriously IMO you are clueless
    I love the V-Log have got great results from my GH5 10bit 4k

    • @ProVisionVideo
      @ProVisionVideo 7 років тому

      And great results with 8bit 50fps 4k V-Log

  • @JohnFelipo
    @JohnFelipo 7 років тому +2

    What you're describing are issues that come with shooting V-log internally. I've seen this in Sony cameras, it's less pronounced because the noise floor is higher but can still be seen.
    V-log should only be used when shooting to an external recorder, there is just not enough information in camera when shooting to 100mbps & 150mbps for V-log. All these issues are gone when shooting to an external recorder.
    I can see a lot of your clips were in 4K 60p which internally is not ideal at all, especially not in V-log. 150mbps is just not enough to deal with all that data. Maybe the 400mbps summer update will change that.

  • @gielrozilio4541
    @gielrozilio4541 7 років тому +4

    haha and then putting a link to amazon for the gh5 in your description. so hypocrite. dislike.

  • @guillem-o
    @guillem-o 7 років тому +4

    Got the GH5 and the V-LOG picture profile and what you're saying is a little bit true. But only the person who edit the video will notice those color """problem""" (yeah three quote bc it's not that big of a deal). Sony A7S II is the only alternative for the GH5, and I personally don't think it's as good (tested both). I'm glas I bought the GH5 and I will not return it, very nice camera.

  • @TheAvlis24
    @TheAvlis24 4 роки тому +1

    Wow bro that's the best all around camera! Whats up with you dude -.-

  • @marclafunk9831
    @marclafunk9831 7 років тому +2

    Is it not so that you always have to make practical choices with these types of cameras? And with these type of cameras I mean small form factor and packed full with features. My experience is that V-Log on the GH4 is also unusable, same with most of the Sony 8bit sensors/codecs if you use S-Log3. A flat image style to increase dynamic range just needs more then 8bit of color depth. But that dynamic range and that bit depth are IMO not really the features why people buy these types of cameras. You get a lot in a small package for a pretty small price. And if you for a particular shot need more dynamic range you have the option to go 1080p 10bit on the GH5 internal. That’s a pretty awesome option if you ask me.
    I am not a GH4 owner and probably will not own the GH5 either. I also don’t have a lot experience with these smaller cameras cause of the sets that I work on, but I do think there is a lot of benefit and a lot to offer for a lot a lot of people with these types of cameras. It’s only if you want to shoot a extreme flat color profile and want a above average of dynamic range and you want to shoot in 4k as well, then you shouldn't buy a GH5 or any other small form factor camera. The technical possibilities are just not there yet. Right now there are still to many technical limitations to achieve such a setup that you are talking about in such a small form factor. If the technical possibilities where there at this point, Blackmagic would have launched a “Pocket Cinema Mk II”. And they didn't only because of this reason, quote on the NAB2017 floor of a BMD rep. “It is not possible yet to achieve such a big bit depth in 4k in such a small form factor at this point, if it was we would have done it”.

  • @brycepeterson1913
    @brycepeterson1913 7 років тому +5

    Some millennials have no patience. The GH5 is the best camera you can get for your money. Once they can have a software update for 10bit it's gonna be fine.

  • @cldarlington1
    @cldarlington1 7 років тому +5

    You're doing it wrong.

  • @gielrozilio4541
    @gielrozilio4541 7 років тому +3

    clickbait title, more like why not to buy the vlog.. not about the whole camera

  • @dimitrimoonlight
    @dimitrimoonlight 7 років тому +3

    Use Premire Pro 2015, 9.0 for 10 bit Vlog.

  • @itxbilla4001
    @itxbilla4001 4 роки тому +1

    Who is watching this in 2020....

  • @abisz007007
    @abisz007007 7 років тому +1

    The title should be:
    Why you shouldn't film vlog in 8bit on the GH5

  • @TheViewproduction
    @TheViewproduction 6 років тому +1

    hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • @whatsmaname521
    @whatsmaname521 4 роки тому +1

    it's 2020, I bet it was a long way for you of remorse on why the hell you did this video, but you kept it, that's likeable.

  • @MarkLedford
    @MarkLedford 6 років тому

    Sorry for all the flack you've gotten on this video. I've gone whole hog into the GH5 and really appreciate all it's powerful features but the VLOG is pure garbage. All these gh5 defenders drinking the kool-aid must have not ever used log on other cameras before. I've used VLOG extensively even on the DJI Osmo, tiny sensor and paltry 60mbps bit rate on 8bit and have never encountered the kind of crazy cyan/magenta macro blocking as i've gotten at 150 mbits on 4k GH5, it really is out of control and i'm glad more people are putting the pressure on Panasonic to fix it or provide real alternatives.
    In contrast grading log on my cheap DJI Osmo was flexible and capable enough to never really cause me any problems while shooting across some really diverse lighting situations. For example check out my Japan video with over 1.3M views all shot on the DJI Osmo in 4k VLOG. Now contrast that to the video I shot at Burning Man in 4k log on the GH5. It gets particularly bad when there is a lot of sky when the sun is out (ex @2:24). That's even worse than skin tones as it goes across the frame. It was impossible to grade and I pretty much gave up on that one and just focused on minimizing the damage instead of grading the way I wanted to.
    Panasonic VLOG is certainly by far the worst feature on the GH5 even worse then the unusable continuous autofocus. Other readers here don't let the Panasonic shills confuse you. Panasonic doesn't advertise that it should only be used for 10bit like these fools in the comments are saying and if that were the case, it shouldn't even be an option available for 8bit in camera. There should be a respectable 8bit VLOG there to replace it. Those that say VLOG can't work in 8bit are also fools, again just try grading 8bit VLOG FROM ANY OTHER CAMERA and see the difference yourself. Alas, i'm too far invested at this point to switch. At least I get 4k/60 and some sweet sweet tiny dual IS lenses for travel.

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze 7 років тому +4

    i wonder what the a7siii will be 8k video? 256fps? soo low light capabilities that you can film in a black hole? screen flips out and turns into a toaster? what are the specs?

    • @gielrozilio4541
      @gielrozilio4541 7 років тому +2

      YoungBlaze Of Chitown lmfao

    • @gielrozilio4541
      @gielrozilio4541 7 років тому +6

      -the dynamic range is so high you can see 2 different dimensions at the same time.
      - you only need one half charged battery your whole life
      - stabilisation so good that you can shoot handheld in a tornado and it looks like a steadycam
      - 10x sd slots

    • @YoungBlaze
      @YoungBlaze 7 років тому +2

      Giel Rozilio hell yeah!... where the hell do i pre order? Skynet.com?

    • @YoungBlaze
      @YoungBlaze 7 років тому

      Skynet.com

    • @gielrozilio4541
      @gielrozilio4541 7 років тому +2

      YoungBlaze Of Chitown lol my wifi network is called skynet

  • @biscuitsalive
    @biscuitsalive 7 років тому

    Firstly. Some of your prime examples have a shit ton of grass nearby with intense sun shining onto it.
    Of course you are going to get reflected green light bouncing around off the grass.
    So I wouldn't trust those clips to prove vlog gives you green patches.
    Secondly I do agree that vlog messes with your colours. But then so does any LOG profile.
    Personally I find Panasonic vlog more accurate in terms of colour than Sonys slog.
    (I find slog does protect highlights better than vlog though)
    And yes canon colour is better than Sony or Panasonic.
    But I think you maybe overreacting here saying it's unusable.
    You just have to learn it's quirks and grade accordingly.

  • @artemus80j.4
    @artemus80j.4 7 років тому +2

    I think you're being a bit harsh here...just because you find Vlog to be unusable you're calling the GH5 garbage? When I read your title before clicking on the video I thought to myself ' is he talking about 8 bit?' ...sure enough the clips are in slomo...8 bit. I am not saying that you're wrong here but let's not forget that this is a 2000 camera and sure as hell isnt pefect. I just find it's funny that everyone took your words and call this camera a disastrous instead of doing their own thinking lol

  • @TheLwaddict
    @TheLwaddict 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, time to get a normal job?

  • @FKfilmphotography
    @FKfilmphotography 7 років тому

    Bullshit mate, if you struggle with doing something don't slander the equipment, slander you're own experience, unsub'd.

  • @filmmakingmasters
    @filmmakingmasters 7 років тому +3

    Wedded couple: "Hey, dude. We were trained to watch out for weird barely visible coloring in your video, and spotted nearly invisible red and green splotching on our skin. Even though you took a whole day to be apart of our wedding. Took the time to create this video for us. We want a refund...cause of the literally invisible red and green splotching on our skin...cause we're trained to specifically watch out for it."
    Idk man was about to unsubscribe, but your videos in the past have been quite helpful.

  • @JonathanLawrence_Director
    @JonathanLawrence_Director 5 років тому

    I'm not getting the problem you are getting with VL. I dont know anyone who is. The GH5 is a great camera - I dont agree with your assessment of the camera or V-Log

  • @JamesMorano
    @JamesMorano 7 років тому +3

    Canon is also charging $99 for their C-Log profile. Panasonic is not the only one to do this. Also I think the V-log will get a lot better when they drop the 400 mbps ALL-I codec.

  • @josixpoeight9981
    @josixpoeight9981 6 років тому +2

    To summarize... If you want to use V-Log, make sure you are using 10bit. 4K 10bit is available on the GH5 now. I am a GH5 user and I agree that it has it's downsides. Autofocus sucks and the low light is not the best. You should do an update review, post firmware 2.0, if you still own the GH5.

  • @rodneyschmidt3652
    @rodneyschmidt3652 7 років тому +3

    I hate to say it, but I honestly have to agree with many of the other comments here... the first thing I thought when I saw your footage and the issues you were highlighting was "Looks he shot the log in 8 bit" and the second thing I thought was "Annnnddd... his color grade is not good."
    I've seen way too much GH5 footage that looked absolutely amazing without any of the red-green blanching issues you are showing here.
    I do agree with the VLOG installation. Pretty stupid way to do it, but eh.
    Also, have to second the comments about your title. Kinda throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

  • @caseybachmeyer
    @caseybachmeyer 4 роки тому

    oh my god...so with this great opinion its better to buy nothing..its all garbidge :-)

  • @I5H78
    @I5H78 7 років тому +2

    Just wait for the hybrid log gamma hdr update coming in the summer, before you decide to sell your GH5. Unlike V-log this hybrid log gamma update is designed specifically for the GH5

  • @ghostpictures
    @ghostpictures 7 років тому +2

    I'm very happy with my VLOG and the 422 10 bit. My new short is coming next week. :) Hope to hear from you.

  • @misha.shendrik
    @misha.shendrik 7 років тому +2

    REALLY IMPORTANT!?!?!?
    do you have the same problem with the gh4?????

    • @mathsurfvlogs
      @mathsurfvlogs 7 років тому

      Mike S i have the GH4 I am really happy. I shoot in VLOG and the results are great. U check in my channel.

  • @codysaunders4941
    @codysaunders4941 7 років тому +3

    Too bad, already bought it :D

  • @BehindTheApex
    @BehindTheApex 6 років тому

    Have you tried using another GH5 with V-Log? Maybe you have a defect. I think it's over-exaggerated to dismiss the entire camera because of a picture profile being faulty. It would be equivalent to saying "return this camera because you cannot film in ISO 100" I don't think anyone is buying this camera to solemnly use V-Log. I don't even own it, and quite frankly I don't think it's a necessity. I'm a C300 Mark II and Ursa 4.6k user, and the GH5 is a powerhouse, hands down.

  • @Plugonetwo
    @Plugonetwo Рік тому

    You have to shoot in 10 bit. Here’s a link to a comparison between 8 bit vs 10 bit. ua-cam.com/video/agA9796bs3U/v-deo.html

  • @OpenRangeStudios
    @OpenRangeStudios 7 років тому

    I love my Panasonic GH4 but have the same issues with red and green blotchy color banding when shooting in VlogL. Too many shots ruined. A major reason for holding off upgrading to the GH5. Everything else about both these cameras is amazing, especially for the price. The extra 2 stops of dynamic range looks better then Cine-D when shots turn out good, but there's always a risk of nasty color blotches.

  • @MarkoLos
    @MarkoLos 4 роки тому

    This has to be the worst video I have seen. What a crappy thing to say, The GH5 is one of the best value cameras you can buy for the quality you get and it seems like you have no idea how to use it. DO NOT SHOOT 8-bit VLOG, go for 10bit or use an extrenal recorder from atomos man instead of telling people not to buy the gh5

  • @jacobrobertdesio9265
    @jacobrobertdesio9265 6 років тому

    I have never seen such a disliked camera review video. You are blaming it on V-log when it sounds like it's your LUT or you are blaming he a camera for the operators shortcomings. I have looked all over and haven't seen anyone else with the same problems. I'm unsubbing because I feel like you have a huge bias towards your own products, you give harsh advice, and sometime frankly it seems like you are out of your depth on some of these issues. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just trying to provide constructive criticism and to let you know why you are losing subs. Good luck with your channel

  • @AfoteyAnnum
    @AfoteyAnnum 4 роки тому

    But I thought you weren't supposed to shoot V-Log in 8 bit...
    I was under the impression that you ONLY shoot V-Log in 10 bit...
    I think this is a user error more so than any fault of the camera itself...

  • @swaha55
    @swaha55 4 роки тому +1

    so has the Vlog improved since 2017 when you made this video?

    • @shaunhillyard1813
      @shaunhillyard1813 4 роки тому

      If you read the comments, most of them highlight him recording in 8bit rather then 10bit, the problem isn't the vlogL it's his error, and Panasonic also recommend to record in 10 bit due to codec 🙂

  • @VenusandMaiku
    @VenusandMaiku 7 років тому

    hmmm I'm colour blind, so things like this absolutely terrify me! I can't see what you are pointing out! I went with the 80D instead because I have to depend on Canon's awesome colour profiles.

  • @chocokrispisconleche
    @chocokrispisconleche 7 років тому

    Is the Vlog not working on premiere the only reason not to buy the GH5? Adobe announced they are working on an update to fix that, if anything the title should be "don't use Premiere to edit your GH5 footage".

  • @MegaCrankX
    @MegaCrankX 7 років тому +2

    did not understand a thing :(
    appreciate the video anyways

    • @mattih
      @mattih  7 років тому +1

      +Bimal Bose hah sorry! This can be a bit confusing for some people but if you didn't understand then don't worry it doesn't affect you most likely

  • @agymnastsbeautyland
    @agymnastsbeautyland 7 років тому +1

    thank you for uploading this!! i was actually just looking into this camera pretty seriously and then this video popped up in my subscription box:)) appreciate the heads up!

  • @eileenmcdonaldsparks6444
    @eileenmcdonaldsparks6444 7 років тому +1

    I have already watched this episode but I keep coming back for the 🔥 COMMENTS 🔥

  • @generaitnet
    @generaitnet 7 років тому +2

    GH5 has 180fps not 120fps... ? this is a GH5 not a Sony A7!

  • @joselperez9384
    @joselperez9384 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the info man! I'm really new to all these Picture Profile and everything. I Bought a Nikon D3300 so i can really learn the hard way, can you do a video on how to manually set a Flat Profile. Thanks for everything Man! Great Great Content!

  • @Muwex
    @Muwex 7 років тому +4

    Man, i support you and all but this was just click bait as f.

  • @Jakobsederholmfilms
    @Jakobsederholmfilms 7 років тому +2

    Okay so how much did sony pay you

  • @1978rnio
    @1978rnio 5 років тому

    I agree. We have C200 and GH5. I prefer C200 over GH5)) GH5 is garbage when you dont know the camera....perhaps) ...but why RED, Arri , Canon is so easy to use in comparison with GH5 . I shot on RED and Canon. Believe me.)

  • @silencerrecker2802
    @silencerrecker2802 5 років тому +1

    Am feeling uncomfortable watching this, Matti, I used to believe in you

  • @moreapropos
    @moreapropos 4 роки тому

    Worst advice ever. The GH5 is a game-changing, break-through camera. 4:2:2 10 bit, ALL-IntraFrame Codec, with V-Log and 12 stops of DR, true 4K, recorded internally, with a wave form monitor, zebras, and manual exposure assistant. Now only $1,300 with a 3 year warranty. Are you kidding me? I would rather take advice from a guy with one tooth.

  • @stanislavpokorny2954
    @stanislavpokorny2954 2 роки тому

    Don't shoot 8-bit footage in log. As simple as that. You'll have 16.7 million colours available in 8-bit compared to over one billion in 10-bit.
    Try to do the same thing (shooting log in 8-bit) with Sony, Canon, Fuji or any other brand and you're gonna end up with exactly the same result: image falling apart instantaneously, as soon as you grab the curve or pick the color qualifier in post, which is ESPECIALLY the case for skin tones. Just remember: 8-BIT FOOTAGE AND LOG DON'T MATCH!

  • @peterjackson4517
    @peterjackson4517 6 років тому

    This is a clear example of not knowing how to properly use a vlog workflow. Also, this is clickbait BS And shows the unprofessional nature of this channel. Of course youtube is filled with very little true professional advice and the opinions of those who make recommendations based off of their inability to use something correctly. The a7s, gh5, 5d 4 and so on are all amazing cameras. Any professional can make JUST about any camera look amazing and any idiot can make ANY camera look terrible. Also, my favorite people are the ones who comment about how this is trash, overrated (I’m talking about anything) and they have never used the camera.

  • @matkavlogi-thaimaa8288
    @matkavlogi-thaimaa8288 7 років тому

    10bit doesn't have macro blocking. So the only thing missing in gh5 is vlog in 4k 60fps. You realy think it's worth returning you camera because of that? Would you prefere to cary arond something like ursa mini for the 60fps 4k instead? What is your camera recomedation for 60fps 4k then?