Job Sites Are Secretly Filtering You Out
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A Look Inside the Job Site - Discover the secret ways employers filter out job applicants without them even knowing! Don't waste your time applying to jobs that won't even get notified. Join us as we dive into the dark side of job applications and expose the truth. If you want more corporate world secrets, hit that like button and subscribe now!
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Dang. Another short 2 minute video. Down voted
You really hate job market
Do a platform of your own. It will sell like hot cookies, trust me. Ill help you build it.
Young folks are rejecting this system by refusing to cause PREGNANCY and refusing MARRIAGE. Let's see how long this system continues without permanent debt slaves as single, childless people increase. Already companies are angry young people ( Millenials and Gen Z even higher rates) quit jobs and much much higher rates than Boomers and Gen X.
Joshua, your job market navigation advice and your confidence boosting has helped me use LinkedIn to be on my second devops engineering job now.
Still no science degree and still grossly incompetent :)
I'm living the dream.
This man will never run out of content with companies like these 🤣
I know, he could make spinoff channels with how much these companies be doing, it's crazy
Thats happen because he dont adress the root of the problem: Capitalism. Its Very convinient for him since he adress Just obvious things that are safe.
@@daniloribeiro5372 I think you mean "Corporatism"
@@daniloribeiro5372I believe touching the surface level is enough for others to do their due diligence while not being cancelled for being overt
@@daniloribeiro5372his channel isn’t a deep dive into philosophy, but offers very useful practical advice for laborers to avoid exploitation as much as possible. There are so many channels that cover this through an intellectual lens, but I’m grateful for his channel making life better for plebs like me.
I applied to an Amazon warehouse job about 6 years ago. The prescreen test they gave was essentially designed to weed out anyone with the slightest urge to unionize. That much was clear to me, so I answered it as if I were the most obedient, mindless, self-loathing, order-taking, incompetent snitch of a person in the world, that was completely oblivious to how bad I was about to get screwed. Got the job! I really just wanted to see what it was like in there because I needed a break from computer work. My god what an awful company culture.
That's only the tip of the iceberg. The fact that they have a policy to fire their "disposable" rank employees every few years no matter how good they are at their job and how much they exceed the performance metrics tells you all you need to know. At least a call center, while a horrible place to work, doesn't want to get rid of its best employees. Amazon literally does.
@@zeriel9148that’s so interesting. Why does Amazon do that? It makes no sense to me, genuinely asking
Amazon workers are filled with scum
@@zeriel9148 I assume its some absurd line of reasoning about not letting warehouses become too dependant on certain employees?
@@thenoobcannon9830 Nah I doubt that's it. Probably just a view that every employee of that rank and skillset is worthless and can be replaced because they constantly have new blood coming in, and the longer you stay with the company the more you cost them in terms of benefits and yada yada. Also probably stops unionization. I know the same attitude can be found in less ruthless companies, there often is a suspicion they are trying to get rid of union employees on old contracts because they get paid a lot more and have stuff like pension, more perks like old sunday/overtime pay, more holidays, etc. To draw this out to its most extreme example, many companies only start offering holiday pay and vacations once you are at 6+ months or a year, so new employees are a LOT cheaper for the company if you look at it from a spreadsheet perspective.
If a company offers a salary lower than the salary advertised, then you should be able to sue for false advertising.
Yep. Or at least time lost.
I've had companies do this in the past, one even tried to offer me minimum wage as a data analyst.
Either way, it's a solid line for me and I auto-reject any offer, EVEN IF they go back and offer what they said they would.
Nope. Not dealing with shady companies like this
In theory but it’s usually pointless because the max penalty is far less than what it’s going to cost to lawsuit them
Remember: the angry beta males running corporate “america” have cutoff any/all accountability
@@07wrxtr1what political or legal position do I have to be in to make laws that break a company's legs at the knee caps for scumbaggery?
This is why unions are making a come back.
@@lombardo141 Yeah, good luck with that.
Applied to a job with a 120k listed pay. They offered me 80k. I said that wasn't enough. They said it was fair compensation for my skill level. 5 months later, this position is still not filled
That sounds like Dell Computer. LOL! Their recruiters contacted me constantly for three years about the same open position. I told them that the salary was too low.
lol, yeah multiple companies have done the old "bait and switch" to me and several others in the community so often that they now have trouble filling even the most menial and entry level rolls because they now have the reputation built up for over a decade theyre nothing but absolute cheapskates.
"Competitive pay" is normally code for the lowest pay legally allowed in that region for a particular job, usually agreed upon by the competing companies. These employer associations of any particular market don't just union bust, yakno.
if they were competing for offering the best pay they'd be offering a LOT. it's all open air gaslighting these days.
Well none of this would be possible without the H1B visa's flooding the market. Once again, the populace blames corporations when its really the government's fault. Convenient scapegoat though.
competitive for them not for you
Whats even worse is some unions more specifically state jobs dont even get that for their employees. I wouldnt say all unions but the older ones havent caught up with the times and continue to fall behind
Agility robotics my be the cause
There's this joke where a secretary brings a huge pile of employee applications and the boss seeing how much he has to review splits it in half and throws the other half in the thrash bin. The secretary looks at him perplexed and he says - "I don't hire unlucky suckers..."
So he only hires “lucky” suckers.
Who cares ? If you really want that job you'd send in another application and let them know you're interested
@@Rosemary46840Working for delusional manchildren is generally considered a foolish venture if you're trying to build a future.
A place I worked put a job add up and it ran the printer out of ink. The boss chucked the entire pile in the recycling and said "I don't have time for this" and hired nobody.
Damnnnnn
"remember, people are commodities and livestock, they're not actually people" - almost every old CEO out there
Its about the NUMBERS. Show me the NUMBERS. I stare at my computer screen at work even when people are nex to me because they are just NUMBERS
@@filthyfrankblack4067 leading groups of numbers gets you preferred treatment so I don't know if your method is optimal
While not working anywhere near as hard as the vast majority of the company, no less. If CEOs wanted to keep up the façade that CEO is a proper job that requires a lot of work, they probably shouldn't have like 3 different positions at different companies at the same time. Even if Elon Musk only worked 20 hours a week on each of his positions, he'd be working 180 hours a week (ya know, 12 more hours than there are in a week) and that's assuming he works 0 hours for the Boring Company, xAI, Neuralink and OpenAI, considering his only positions in those companies is "founder" or "co-founder." Negative 12 hours a week hardly seems like enough time to do all that jetting around the world on vacation that he does for weeks out of the year. Most CEOs are just a rich person to be the face of the company and they're even shit at that half the time because of how detached from reality they are. The company I work for is honestly pretty good, but the CEO is STILL useless, hahaha
Keeping the "resource" in H.R.
And that's why I can't complain when people don't want to work or I choose not to work as much or how things get to be so bad like robberies. It's all the rich person's fault😂
Companies say we are family but will fire you without a reason and don’t care about how you have to survive in this dreadful economy!
You dont feel like we are on the road to "Build Back Better"? Lol neither does the majority of everyone else
Sociopaths being sociopaths.
Not surprising.
@Not-Jabbed-PureBlood trying so hard to go there but not quite going there.
“Family”? Yeah, and the Mansons claimed to be a “family”. Look how that worked out.
Only "family" the companies actually are like is the Mishima family from Tekken series.
The worst part is the deal-breaker might be something like "has 'Figma' in their resume"... Until recently I wasn't listing all the tools I know how to use because I know how to use them all and Figma is the standard for design. To me this would be like a Senior Software Engineer writing "proficient in vs code" or something. Like obviously if the guy has been employed for 15 years he fucking knows how to use an IDE.
Anyway, I started keyword stuffing my resume like I was making a website in 2001 and started getting more responses.
Extensive experience with Microsoft Frontpage and Netscape Navigator Javascript 😂😂
This
@@pawntuneclever, I'm gonna use that
Font: smallest possible
Color: same as background
Position: bottom right corner
Text: "FIGMA BALLS."
@@pawntuneDo not do this. Applicant tracking systems have text parsing and that’s how the keyword matching is done (which by the way is just a dumb percentage match - you don’t get auto rejected based on those features). It looks super dumb from the other end and recruiters know what you are doing.
7:12 these “aptitude” tests always read like this to me:
“How far are you willing to bend over for me?”
“Do you mind me yelling in your face and degrading you publicly around your co workers?”
“Do you mind if I cross boundaries and exploit you?”
“Do you mind if I overwork you and gaslight you for wanting to get paid when I was generous to give you an opportunity to blow me?”
Usually at the end they have a section where you can give comments where it states “anonymous” and “doesn’t affect employment”. I take the opportunity to tell them to F themselves. I wasn’t born yesterday. Calling them sadistic f*****. You can’t comment anonymously when they have all my information at the start of the test.
A friend of mine went to a job interview where they shout at her, called her a loser multiple times and at the same time asked her for work non-stop to see if she was able to handle it.
Was this job with the US Marines? @@pedromarques9267
There has to be a joke about circle jerking in here somewhere.
I'm looking for a job, responding to ads leads me to linkedin skill tests. It's so infantilizing, incredibly annoying, and disrespectful of my time. The best part is that one job was paying (supposedly) 75k and the test was reminiscent of what I would do in elementary school - reading comprehension and similar tests. Absolutely ridiculous.
You would be shocked at the lack of basic literacy, math, etc. at this point. When the schools are graduating kids that can’t do basic things, employers have to test prospective hires, it sucks for everyone.
Whenever I run across an engineer who can’t spell, I automatically assume that person graduated from Texas A&M. LOL!
Harvard Business conducted a study a couple years ago which concluded that the only thing AI enabled hiring processes guarantee is to select the most mediocre candidates possible.
That’s how they got Dr. Gay, apparently.
Makes sense. If you don't have much experience, you pad your qualifications with useless information to fill out your resume so it doesn't just say "burger flipper" but the AI sees it as having more qualifications
Many Americans have multiple solid degrees and 17 + years of experience YET now one cannot get hired! WTF!
yep this is happening in australia too. 10 years plus experience, 100s of job applications without landing any. and the private sector here has the nerve to say there's short supply of talent so we need to import it.
companies have to be seen to be hiring even though there are no actual vacancies, so they waste everyone's time by posting fake jobs
dark tan priviledge.😮😢
@@lunam7249 Nonsense. They just want unemployed people to lower wages.
That's me... closer to 25years, education... 700 applications and only 1 written interview over a year period.
My roommate applied for a job and when she didn’t have one of the requirements it just automatically said “thanks but we won’t hire you have a nice day”
Still sucks but it’s better than applying into the void
This is why I am going to lie about the requirements.
@@olympic-ass-eater this was a license. You can’t lie about that
@@nervousbreakdown711 Yes a person can
@@nervousbreakdown711lie about having the license on the application then admit you dont have it. At least you get your foot in the door
Never be honest with them. All you need to do is look at their requirements and lie up the ass to fit their exact requirements. It's just an algorithm delineating the input goal, therefore you use their own logic against them. :)
Ok
Yeah, but then if they can verify you're lying you'll most likely get blacklisted.
Don't be an idiot.
@@sciencecompliance235 Ohh no, blacklisted from a company that's so far up their own ass, they've somehow managed to get their head to stick out of their mouth, what a horrid thing... work elsewhere. and if you have the disposable income, start your own organization.
@@sciencecompliance2353 years of vscode/excel/R can mean "only used basic functions for repetitive tasks" OR "used it extensively with most modern libraries in the last year" they CANT verify which tools or languages I used, what kind of projects I delivered as an employee or contractor.
@@sciencecompliance235 there is no black list lil bro. I lied and make $100k plus.
You'll learn the job on the job. Just work hard and they'll keep you.
i hate the phone interview questions. where they just have you record an answer to a bs question. I automatically skip any job with that enabled.
"Why did you do that, it harmed your coworker?!"
"I followed the established procedure to the letter."
"Well, we do not just blindly follow the rules."
"Last time I did not follow the established procedure you got upset at me."
"We need you to be nuanced and know when it is not okay to follow the rules and when it is."
"Okay, please write a procedure for that."
Totally me! The world can’t deal.
Management "You need to think creatively and not pester me with every little question, think for yourself!"
Also Management "why did you think for yourself! If ANY decision needs to be made, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ME NO MATTER HOW SMALL. EVEN TO GO TO THE BATHROOM!
'A bit later' "WHY DOD ASK ME TO GO TO THE BATHROOM!? I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS! YOU SHOULD BE MANAGING YOUR OWN TIME!"
"WHY ARE YOU MANAGING YOUR OWN TIME! THATS MY JOB!"
Josh forgot to mention that they implemented Chatgpt into indeed, resulting in autogenerated job descriptions you can just click next on if you have no idea what to put in there. As a result it will start listing non relevlent skills in both the description and the requirements section. Skills that should boost the pay drastically. non informed HR is bad enough without chatgpt making mistakes.
you can message the employer who isn't reading their applications with chatgpt too, it even feeds your resume and job description in to generate the message.
Then generate CV with GPT too
@@stanislavkindiakov6334we need a restructuring of how we go about hiring. Everyone is just going to use AI and finesse it and use application tracking systems to can AI resumes. Hopefully our skeletons in office take a stand or the free market answers our call before AGI opens a can of whoop ass on us.
I've noticed every job listing is pretty much the same nonsense lately. First there's the "who we are" which is usually some glamorous sounding load of garbage about the companies history or legacy. Then there's the what you'll do part, which is a washed up depiction of a noble employee. Then we find environmental part, which outlines what they are doing to save the earth, that absolutely nobody applying cares about. 4th, we have diversity, equity, and inclusion nonsense... again, who cares. Next, we get to applicant requirements: usually a bachelor's degree to drive a forklift or something a 10 year old farm kid does day in and day out.
We then have pay and benefits, typically something like $16 an hour and health insurance with $9000 deductibles for a job that's going to leave you with organotin flora growing in your lungs. And lastly, the schedule... oh the schedule. Monday - Friday, 7-7 with overtime! Weekend availability, no holidays off. 😂
After all this you read that application the claims you'll make $10k a month! But when you calculate the hours you realize your wage is.... minimum wage. 😂
@@MrSquishles it submitted my resume to random companies. I've also seen it list benefits they didn't have.
I had an interview once and CFO kept asking similar"What if" scenarios, they are mortified when my answers were prefaced with "depends on the situation". They repeatedly asked "what's your strategy to handle this situation", yet was like they'd read these questions are was waiting for the correct response.
PLEASE call out the personality tests, You know, those tests that want you to select all the "traits" that describe you or how other people would describe you. I HATE THEM!!
Genuinely why can't they automate it so that if you're rejected it tells you why & at which stage.
Because if they give feedback you can game the system.
@@jamesphillips2285 yet if they don't give feedback they will never find people that are qualified and or only find people that will game the system anyways. It's a annoying catch 22, dammed if ya do dammed if ya don't
Because the goal is not to be helpful or make anything better
I think it is because if they were honest, they would open themselves to huge liability because they are too lazy to build a strong ethic in their companies. Companies that want to build empires and attract effective workers to out perform thier rivals will tell you exactly what the issue was. Because they want to see if you are a person that will improve yourself and come back.
High quality work demands high quality motivated workers.
Companies that make these programs don't care about their non-paying users
I love it when they post the educational requirements of masters degree for a level 2 IT tech.. major red flag
Thats HR
I saw one from a defense contractor the other day, principal level software engineer, 0 years total development experience, entry level, 10 years experience with a specific language. I thought it was just an HR screw up, but now I'm betting it was AI generated.
I've seen one where the experience required on a particular software was more years than the software has been out.
Can't source it.
@@KendrickJ2 It's pretty common with web dev, there's examples out there where more years are asked for in technology than the tech has been out. There's also instances where people want familiarity with a tech, and the literal inventor of the tech isn't qualified according to what is asked for.
@@KendrickJ2 I saw a requirement be X years experience using software that was custom developed by and for that company. The only people with any experience would be people already at the company
This is why I want to start my own business and currently working on that.
Good luck you gotta have ball, of steel and alot of Capitol to start any business... they are trying to make being an entrepreneur impossible. Remember you will have to pay your own health insurance, if you have a family that will legitimately coat you 30-40K out of pocket for a private individual policy and out of pocket expenses, remember private insurance doesn't offer dental or ENT, co-pays. Don't forget your kids will need braces. Most ppl I know working in a job they hate is just because the benefits. Literally paid $30K in salary but get $30K + in benefits. Good luck to you, I own 6 bininesses and now have about 60-100 employees depending on time of year (I'm in ag so alot of seasonal. Some days I have 400 ppl in my fields, I have trucking co, seed Co farming opwration etc. I mention the benefits because it's one cost a lot of new entrepreneurs forget to factor in. Especially if they have a family. America is not entrepreneur friendly, they want corporate drones, you can break out on your own and do way better and live the life you want, the 1st 3 years will determine the next 30 of your life!
@@growthefarmup2606own six businesses yet you're commenting on UA-cam videos, sure Bud
Likewise, mate!
I tried that myself. I built a social media platform, but turns out I need a lot of money to get started even if I could host the site myself and use open source software. I don't have that kind of money lying around.
@@redrevyol what business you were trying to open?
I had a great interview one time. The person flat out said they don't know how I got the interview because I don't match their qualifications. I think I got the interview because somebody who actually knows the job knew I would be a good fit. One of the interviewer's questions was how much experience I had programming in a particular language, which was a custom, modified, language exclusive to their company. I said none because it's a custom language your company made but I have 5+ years in the language that created that programming language. I still didn't get the job because I didn't have enough experience and I couldn't seem to explain to the HR interviewer that the only people with that experience will be people who already work at that company
I feel like HR needs to be audited by the engineering team/manager that actually knows stuff every so often and after a certain amount of herpa derp decisions they get reprimanded or fired. I feel like they have impunity by just making it impossible and saying "whoops, we just can't find anyone". I mean, what good are they if they won't understand the positions well enough to hire properly?
@nunyabusiness896 yeah hr is useless at hiring people. Im honestly shocked companies dont hire hiring managers from their existing pool of expert employees
Remember if you are gooder at something you can 2x the experience time.
Stopped using these sites 10 years ago. Saw this coming in the late 90's when almost everything shifted to agencies/firms to get an entry level job. The most common form of discrimination on them is probably age. Another way they keep wages low. Tons of Americans are now running their own businesses, in my view, due to this kind of behavior by companies. Ppl. don't want to deal with this stuff anymore. Thanks for exposing all of these labor/job issues.
I've been self employed since the late '90s because I can't take this bs. One thing I will mention, once you work for yourself, you will forever be blacklisted as NO ONE wants a former business owner working for them. Uber, Lyft, and Doordash don't count as owning your own business in case anyone is worried about that.
@@fullclipaudio Depends on the industry. For example, in various forms of engineering it's common to have a single member LLC to do contracting/consulting work between jobs or to earn extra money. They just want to know you won't be focusing too much on the extra work while working for them.
I am an engineer with various products being sold world wide which I receive royalties from. HR hates that because I have a source of income and a history of designing and creating products. In other words, I don't need them and they seethe with fury over it. @@nunyabusiness896
@@fullclipaudio 100000000% correct. Employers want employees, not entrepreneurs.
I was an idiot and asked Indeed to review my resume.
I may has well have wiped my ass with that money.
What I got was 10 suggestions from an AI. And this wasn't a particularly smart AI, either: This AI had to go visit the nice lady in the basement every day.
I just hate how many companies have their own multiple sites to fill out apps. It's ridiculous to have to fill out the same information in so many places.
I've found it helps to create a text file that you can copy pasta. Maybe someone could create a browser extension to autofill the information
@@MichelleHellDoesn't work. Every input form is formatted differently, so you have to spend time making further changes even if you have pre-existing docs.
Started getting a case worker to troubleshoot some of my problems. It was fun showing her how I can almost do these bizarre forms by memory due to how much practice I've had typing out my name, email (I don't want notifications on similar jobs, but they'll send them anyway), phone number, address, right to work in my country, stating that I have no disabilities or special requirements, consenting to a police check, stating my available hours and writing down my skills and experience. Makes you wonder why they even bother asking for a resume.
Thank god you are exposing these stupid employers and companies.
These companies aren't cool. I want to see a series of this!
I worked in a walmart warehouse for 7 months. At first, I thought they had really great policies. Then after some experience, I realized that their unofficial motto is "pretend to do what you are supposed to do when you think someone is watching"
Competitive Pay = minimum wage or close to it. Benefits = a lousy 401k that u have to put $ in & manage by yourself, minimum to no paid vacation time, and a health insurance plan that disappears the minute u file a claim.
I was applying to a job and it asked what my SAT score was. I have two graduate degrees and never took the SAT. And then the greatest question - when did you graduate high school. No, this isn't discrimination......
The most common problem I’ve had after the second interview is that the manager you would be working for, doesn’t want a competitor for his job.
I've had a lot of those. They see too much potential in you and get worried they'll have to actually work harder
Competition is inherently destructive. Evidence is all around us.
Joshua fluke, please continue your excellent videos.
Businesses says something else when you are working for them.
Businesses advertise something else ( what they say they are looking for in a employee )
All this is nothing but abstract not a science.
Seriously, got started working 2 days ago thanks to videos. Left toxic workplace 7 months ago. Great content as always!
Man, this is scary! It is extremely unfortunate that things like this exist.
I hope you are doing well, my friend! Stay healthy.
Bro I hate indeed and linkin. I try to get a remote job as a customer server rep and applied to like 50-100 jobs and never got a call or message expect from scams. Even some jobs I emailed the person for the job just ghost me or block me when I just asked for a follow up after applying a week ago.
rip
Yeah never apply through a third party like LinkedIn; always look up the company’s website and apply that way.
I've never hired anyone from a internet job placement website or app. Been running 6 companies for 20 yrs 100 employees. These job apps are almost worst than dating apps, show up to the company and show them the value you will provide and why hiring you will make your bosses life easier. Don't try to fit in the systems box, break the mold and you got my attention. That is what has gotten more ppl hired at my place than any app. It's not you, your just placing too much stock in what a stupid app (that the algorithm doesn't even work properly)
Make two accounts.
Pick only jobs you actually want.
Apply one with real facts.
Apply one with enhanced facts.
See what sticks.
@@growthefarmup2606 yeah but for remote work in 2023 as a call representative there aren’t much major companies to apply to. So best chance is to seek them out on indeed and LinkedIn. Again most are tuned by scams or idoits who don’t really seem to want to hire ppl or ppl good or excellent for the job. And any local call center jobs in jacksonville florida or florida don’t do remote work, and I will not work at some small building with 30 ppl all in desk slam to each other calling all the time and being a sucker to pizza friday and trying to get a small bonus for most sales or customers done by the end of the month. Either way I was lucky to see Walgreens had an opening and expected to get an interview this week
The deal breaker thing I've seen indeed jobs that says you need an EA and a CPA. You don't need both these credentials for the jobs since the provide the same exact purpose.
Ahh... Job skills tests. I failed mine after 14 years in industry. Why? Because they were asking questions without understanding the problem. It was more like 'how well do you know ui of a given tool" than how well you know subject. From now on every company using that tests shows me that 1) they dont have domain knowledge and 2) they are asking wrong questions.
Yeah, I absolutely ignore the "skills" tests because they're usually more like arbitrary "where is X and Y in the software" than any real deep understanding. Almost no one uses 100% of the tools in any given software and just because you can't recall where a menu item is off the top of your head doesn't mean you don't know how to use it.
I actually took less money for a job that was very close to home which meant a lot less time in traffic. I also liked the work because I was able to design hardware, firmware, and software. It was fun and a great learning experience for me. Meanwhile, I was talking to recruiters and looking for a higher paying job. I finally landed a great position with a profitable company with a huge salary increase. Good luck to everybody.
What i hate are when jobs have those personality tests. Not only are those pointless but more importantly they always seem to filter my ass out!
Just choose the most kiss ass answer the company wants to hear and you will be fine. mostly
What an absolute joke the job hunting market is.
Decades in & we STILL don't have salary transparency but they have time for this BS
Stranger online commented; He put in 6 week notice he was quitting; called in sick next day; never went back.
Every time I see something new about the practices of job boards I feel better about my choice to just build a scraper and skip them entirely
Explain?
Bump
@@TheBarbariangamers Put briefly, I wrote scripts to parse the sections of a search results page containing metadata (title, company, etc) about a job, and then store them somewhere that isn't Indeed (or LinkedIn) for later use
With this same technique you can also harvest links, and those can be anything from the next page of results, to additional details on one job listing, to a redirect link that takes you off site to the actual job post
Explain 2
Innovators like you are the Crux of progress. If you're not LARPing, you should follow up with the comment section here because that's probably an indicator that you've fulfilled a need for the masses
I recently discovered that my nationwide company requires 5 years of experience as a manager, specifically in the field, for a first-level healthcare department manager. Technically, it's impossible to be promoted, no matter the education, from within... You have to leave the organization, do the job for 5 years with somebody else, and then apply to return. I'm not joking.
I just got a Master's in Business Administration (MBA) with a specialization in Healthcare Management that they paid for in its entirety, but to get the job, I either have to know somebody at HR or the Director of the department I'm applying to because my application is getting rejected by HR without ever being seen by anybody else. Note: I have several years of experience as an IT manager, but it has to be in Healthcare. I'm also the Sr. Lead in my department.
Moral of the story.. most people morals makes them think lying and manipulation are fine.
And business people delude themselves with 'its just business' no its just your willingness to do those behaviours and prove you are not moral at all.
"if you want to see me pick apart the corporate world some more".... uh, yes please. and thank you.
I once applied for a permanent job in an organisation for which I had been acting in the job for months and I was unilaterally rejected, not even an interview. I ended up finding another job elsewhere and never looked back. Thank you for the video!
What happened?
I always apply on the company site directly.
On indeed I applied for a job that was listed as 55k-85k. I got the job at 52k. Their benefits turned out to be so bad that I had to leave.
Oh also I was hired to work with a guy who was nocturnal and worked remote. I was required to go to the office every day. 😆
you have better chances becoming a freelancer.
Indeed is crap, I'm an employer and have never had anyone from any app or web based application job placement service work out... ever. I've tried it. It's the people that show up to my place of work and break the mold and explain why I should hire them that get a much better chance than anyone applying thru an app. Just my 2 centz
Similar xp, I was offered 115k after calling out the discrepancy( they wanted me to take a 25k cut), and was fired due to interpersonal drama w/ a librarian turned into a "Rockstar" programmer
If only 14% of companies are paying the average salary, then there is something wrong with the salary surveys lol ...
mean, median, average, mode, are all different words, NOBODY MAKES WHAT THE ECONOMIC STUDIES SAY!!
@@lunam7249 I can understand the median salary and average salary being slightly different from one another, but I wouldn't expect the average to only be at the 14th percentile. That means there is either an extremely skewed probability distribution, or inaccurate information that provided those stats in the first place.
I think it's specifically talking about that band of pay. If you have a job that pays nothing, a job that pays $50,000 and a job that pays $100,000, the average is $50,000 and only 1/3rd of listings offer that amount
ah the """labor shortage""" ....
it so many scam jobs too and the ones that are real are so draining. it’s like an hour long process
Then they never respond
@@commentbot9510 exactly. i’ve spent over an hour between the application process and assessments for walmart and other retail jobs cause i’m trying to find partime and no word until weeks after with rejection. like wtf 😆
When I apply for a job I always put a huge salary in their salary expectations. I figure why not because it helps everyone else out.
Normally, they (HR) are in control.
@@NathRebornsK If we all started asking for larger salaries maybe HR would get the message.
One time I had no idea what to put in for "salary expectations": so simply took rent and multiplied by 3 (since rent is supposed to be no more than 30% of income). Did not get a call-back.
@@jamesphillips2285 That was a good idea. We shouldn't have to sell ourselves out to any employer.
@@NathRebornsK Good job I'm not normal then. I cut through the changing of topic tactics. Most people have a fear of conflict and let them get away with it.
Why wouldn't people exploit you if you let them?
Email the company's HR department directly. That worked for me 2 months back when I saw a video from Joshua. "if you can do the job, email them the resume". I also personalised it to the specific job posting.
Unfortunately job sites are not that great, that is true in Europe and US.
Applying for an online job can take from half an hour to an hour, especially if you need to make a profile on their company website.
I don't even waste my time applying to sites that want me to create a profile or an account.
Asides from the application, I will never ever go to the site again.
If they want you to create a profile on their website, they are not looking for applicants; they are collecting data to sell.
@@RyanGBanister They can probably get a lot a valid email/password pairs too. Not everybody had a password manager to randomly generate a unique password for every site.
I've had to game one of those indeed tests before. Putting strongly agree and strongly disagree as my only answers to polarize my score. I scored well, but I lied my ass off to get the amazing score.
I had to do that to get a job at fucking walmart lol
never answer these tests honestly or they automatically reject you always answer strongly agree or disagree answer like the perfect bootlicker would.
@@perrson22 Amen!
someday, somewhere i am gonna be in a situation, in-laws, work, idk. But when this moment arrives, and I am about decide my fate, a tiny voice will say to me "pssst, hey man. recall. the "perfect little bootlicker". A smug smile creeps upon my lips. Thanks tiny voice.@@perrson22
@@perrson22 They want robots man. Employers just do not take into consideration they’re hiring an actual human that’s capable of nuanced thought.
@@perrson22 They usually ask the same question multiple ways and it cancels out. I think you're better off being neutral on all, so that you don't have contradictory answers?
Generally, jobs advertised online are low quality.
I don’t understand why there’s not a job board where you just post your requirements and skills and an algorithm can match you to employers. Like why do we even have to apply? Nothing else works like that anymore.
Joshua fluke. Keep up the good work.
I'm 37 M, I've been a mechanical Engineer for years, it's becoming increasingly impossible to find a reputable company.
Many mechanical engineers grads i knew got borderline HVAC technician. I work as an installer and that´s what i got told.
What you think is appropriate salary for an engineer? With 10 yrs experience. I was thinking 130k
what kind of engineering are you doing?@@Shadowmanchronicles
130k, is on the upper fair high end. There's so many factors in someone salary.
I do not want to sound rude or out of touch, I genuinely want everyone to be successful. It sucks seeing younger people at my work that have lost hope..
Can't blame them, I lost hope about 4 years ago.
I'm doing my best to save and move to Kentucky.
Your first problem was going mechanical. Electrical, master race
We must come together to create a site that quickly gives you these exam answers, so we spend as much time applying as they do evaluating talent....as little as possible.
Great idea.
This exists but it's exclusive to Indians spamming remote jobs. Loads of WhatsApp groups filled with interview answers.
Job search sites and dating sites or business that want to keep people on as long as possible. With job sites like indeed the pain customers are the companies posting jobs. They always send mismatch candidates that are hiring and mismatched jobs to those seeking jobs. It's to keep both parties on the site so that they can continue to make more money. Just like dating sites are designed to keep you single so that you'd stay on the dating site so that they make more money.
Nah. First of all, with the dating site, if they just keep sending you awful people (ugly, bad personality, etc) you'll just stop using it after a while. With job sites, if they send no one or only bad candidates, any half-decent company will go back to more traditional recruiters or other methods.
@@nunyabusiness896 that's why they send almost but not quite matches on dating sites that seemed good through a profile but once you talk to them you realize you're completely incompatible.
"discrimination is illegal but you CAN discriminate them without issue 😏"
"isn't that the same thing?"
"NO!"
Haven't received any recommendations for your channel for months. I had to search you up. I'll catch up on what I've missed. Love your content
WTF is remote work with this crazy indeed platform. They are now using remote means you drive to the office!?!
Yeah, most of the time "Remote" means "Remote-Hybrid", which is the term for RTO mandates
Another excellent video, Joshua!!
I think big companies filter out candidates before they even see the ads.
please do more of these!
I think this kept happening to me last time. I have high level skills but was rejected by many many opportunities over six months. I couldn’t even get an entry level position or interviews or even a call or email back. All this automation has severely impacted the performance of industries across the board.
I think the demographic info is also used to screen people out. I got way more replies when I stopped filling those out or entered them as wishing not to respond. If you are a minority and having a hard time, stop giving them that information.
The one I started noticing recently was application tricks like asking your gender in the protected demographic section but asking for your preferred pronouns under regular information. Similar tricks to figure out things like race, politics, marital status, and so on such as asking things like, would you try to leave early if your spouse said there was an emergency and the answers being yes, no, or don't have one.
Did you just imply AI is discriminating??? 🤣
No one is EoE compliant anymore. Thanks for all you do for this community. Keep those videos coming.
Keep up the good work, Josh
Thank you for sharing your insight in how businesses low-ball employees and job seekers
ty Joshua keep it up bro
Shoutout to all companies still using WorkDay job application form - YA'LL SUCK
May I ask why? Genuine question
@@Goval400 takes 15 minutes to fill a form which basically asks everything already in your resume. I joined my companies interviewing team and found out they don’t even care to look at it
@@Makwayne That makes no sense. You already uploaded your resume. Why do you need to still fill in you name and previous jobs and experience?
So that you can make their Applicant Tracking System work.@@saulgoodman2018
I recently had some better experiences with workday "hosted"(?) applications. The workday part isn't any better. BUT. It looks like the companies doing the hiring have eliminated a lot of the garbage-y workday parts. I'm thinking, companies have choices in what they have workday ask of candidates, and the companies are starting to do that and make it less of a time waster.
Speaking of tests that may not correlate to the type of job applied for, I once had to take a physical exam for a computer position. The site had a warehouse so I can understand that particular test, but it made no sense why I had to take it. I still got hired despite not being informed how well I did, and my legs were sore for a week.
Hm, interesting.. It's like a multifunctional test from company's point of view.
Assess physical labour candidates in their capabilities and assess brain labour candidates for compliance.
Your results likely didn't matter. The fact that you went along with something that made no sense to you is what counted, I'd guess
Perhaps they thought fitness correlated with stuff they did value, like work ethic (it takes a lot of work to get fit, and this position also requires a lot of work).
As a white hetero male I always put 'prefer not to say' and answer questions as if I am an NPC.
Got interviews everytime. The just click with interviewer and GG with job offer.
I’m a black hetero male, and I will try this
@@riqo4877 it can’t hurt
Don't feel like an NPC. These forms are for the cultist NPCs that have bought into the Berkeley brain rot. I don't usually throw those terms around, but HR is an example of that ideology infesting organisations. In other words, they did a degree in gender studies.
Are you claiming that white men are being discriminated against?
@@warrenlewis3977 Yes, they are, with companies that have DEI initiatives and minority quotas. Asking about race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. is inherently discriminatory on a job application, and they almost always ask for this, and the answer should ALWAYS be, "prefer not to say"
For example, IBM's CEO was recently under fire for discriminating based on race with how the company would pay out bonuses to employees.
Job posts these days have ludicrous requirements without any wiggle room. Used to be you could be 70% qualified and be considered. Now you have to be a 110% match (yes, the exaggeration is intentional) just to get an interview.
I'm actually totally fine with this if it's done well. Example, Indeed lets you build a digital resume with work history and certifications and whatnot. So if this filtering is going to be a thing, why not just have an option to hide those jobs from your search? The sheer amount of wasted time is incredible.
Also "this company responded to 90% of applicants, mostly within 3 days!" Me 7 days after applying to 100 jobs I'm overqualified for with no reply: >.
Make two accounts.
Pick only jobs you actually want.
Apply one with real facts.
Apply one with enhanced facts.
See what sticks.
the dealbreaker thing should be indicated to the candidate, that's kind of bs. The salary ranges should come from multiple sources and have where they come from cited too. like there's tons of ways to improve the match rate, and they should be going for that because that gets them money.
You have to respond to the candidate within 3 days or you are charged for each candidate.
@@StephanieManley What the fawk? Really? On which job site? So if I don't apply in the first 3 days I may as well not even apply?
@@nunyabusiness896 that would be indeed.
no transparency for us, no transparency for them.
Lie on your resume.
Thanks for all the work you've done for years calling out this corporate bullshit in your own scathing and honest fashion. Also, Hells Fargo sucks.
I don't blame people not wanting to work - this is high BS.
Self-employment is more safer.
But you're forgetting how nature works. If everyone are self employed then most people will have a hard time getting clients = money to survive.
Instead of this, why don't Indeed just tell candidates what the deal breakers are so they don't have to waste their time?
I took that software engineering test for a react job and got asked nothing but C# and Java question. Fortunately I still passed but I can see someone being thrown off and failing.
I would be surprised if 1 in 10 job postings at these sites are actual open positions. It's more than likely when you are applying for these "jobs," you're actually submitting your information to these GD data brokers. While applying for jobs myself, I've actually been told that there is no actual open position within that company and I'm apply for, wait for it, "future open positions." CSg MFs...
probably explains why my email is filled with junk lmao
Good stuff
The companies gaslight. The system is narcissistic.
On the flip side, now we can tweak resumes to bypass the keyword bs to get in front of decision makers so they stop playing games with our time.
About 20 years ago I interviewed at Network Solutions and was given a multiple choice test to see if I fit with their "attitudes" and "culture". It included a lot of questions like: "Do you think people sometimes don't get along with their co-workers?" and "Do you think some people steal from work?" Obviously these things are true, so I answered in the affirmative. Bzzt! Wrong answers! I know from personal testimony of former workers that, indeed, this does go against company culture since deceit is one of their highest corporate values. Very glad that I did not end up working there even for a minute, but what a wake-up call.
What a dumb questionnaire, just because some people do it doesn't mean YOU will.
Floshua Juke… Doin’ what he can for mankind.
Wow thanks for that heads upb
You are the best ❤
Damn. That explains a lot...
Josh is my new hero
I literally had a few companies come to me for an interview and then they bait and switch to lower pay and lower title. This was after multiple interviews during the offer negotiation. Both companies ghosted when i countered for simply the basis on which they interviewed me for.
I quit counting after 300 online applications. I got a phone interview from one (and didn't get a follow-up). I'm pretty sure I was too old in all cases.
It's a reoccurring pattern with companies who ask such tests ending up also being companies that overwork you.
You’re doing the lord’s work.
I've used Indeed in my hiring process. There were a couple of filtering settings that made me raise an eyebrow because I didn’t think anyone woule so picky with some preference settings.
Thanks that is why I’m trying to stay on my job till I retire. These job applications online are atrocious.