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A woman put a toddler in her back seat of her Tesla and was going to go somewhere when that accessory battery died and she couldn't open the door to get the child out. Tesla's have no external mechanical key hole so there was no way to get in without trying to jump charge the accessory battery. Time was crucial because the poor kid couldn't get out so she called 911. The fire department had to break out one of her windows to get to the child. Stupid design by Tesla and other car companies need to take note. Sounds like this is a good example for a lawsuit and a recall.
@@robertlawrence9000this story is very fishy. The genius let the car battery go to zero? You know how hard that is to do in a Tesla? What do you want Tesla to do, make a physical key for manual emergency entry that no one will take with them or go back to insecure and antiquated physical keys for their vehicles? Do you know how many dumb Walmart parents leave their kids in hot ICE cars every ear that have to have the windows broken out? This is a perfect example of an isolated incident caused by a freaking moronic parent that the media is spinning as a possible norm. Give me a break.
3:28 and there we go more proof nobody is doing anything about the polution problem nobody is goig to waste that much moeny on a new battery. so they will just junkt he car. probly end up in a land fill. with battery acid leaking into the enviorment hopfully it will posion the water supply so the idiots that buy these things learn. ohhh yea e waste in the food supply delicious.
@AJ-sp7pc clearly not that smart, maybe if they repaired other cars they'd know how much other cars fail compared to tesla, or maybe they bought Toyota because Toyota and honda are cheap. Mechanics sadly aren't paid enough in this country.
@@Mr_natenut I don't know what you mean by that, but "The Jones" will be able to buy cheaper EVs in the future than comparable ICE because ICE is more complicated and costly to create on the same scale as EV. The incentive for manufacturers right now is to sell to upscale customers and capture that profit, but we are seeing now that THAT is not sustainable, so time to build that affordable small EV for the young population already!!! They are waiting with cash in hand.
Good, then I won't bother asking you about EVs then, because looking at your ridiculous threads and responses posted below, it's obvious you don't own one either. Like you say, the liars are desperate. 🙄🙄🙄
I bought a 2013 volt brand new. Some recalls, always serviced at dealer. Have replaced touch control and blower. 935 dollars. Gets 35 miles on electric charge. 94150 miles on it. Average mileage is 83 miles per gallon. Hard to justify buying a new car when the car you have runs perfectly.
It's a great EV for commuting and as long as it's in warranty. I LOVED my i3 while I had it, but my Carmax warranty paid for itself with minor fixes and I upgraded to a Model 3 so I could drive longer distance. But if I ever need to buy a used commuter car I'll definitely consider an i3 again.
I just leased a 2024 Hyundai IONIQ 5 last weekend and I love it so far. I charge it at home and it gives me a little more than my 50 mile trip to work and back. And I found a level 3 fast charger only 5 miles from my place that is FREE!
I drive 60 miles a day. My EV charges in a couple hours at home. I backup my entire house with it and it runs everything including AC. My insurance is $109 per month. I don't see a downside.
@@MrJamespeyton Tesla batteries have 8 year warranty or 100,000 miles. If in 8 years your battery degradation is more than 30% they will replace the battery for free. CATL is the biggest BEV battery maker in the world, they guarantee their latest LFP battery for 15 years and they work fine in cold weather.
@@bingybingy2592 EVs are expensive mainly due to the high costs of battery production, advanced technology, and the lack of economies of scale compared to traditional internal combustion engine vehicles. The average price of a car sold in the US is $48,000, so its not just EVs.
I've owned an i3 for 8 years (2014 model, purchased new in 2016). I was away for all of December and parked the car in my garage. When I returned the small 12V battery had died. Replacement cost $180 and took a week to arrive. That battery lasted 9.5 years, 7.5 years while I owned it. Not bad. (BTW, the 12V battery plus two sets of tires are the only maintenance items I've needed to replace. This car has saved me a lot of money.) Also, I've been charging the car using a 110V outlet for 7.5 years. I plug it in at the end of the day and charge it overnight. If it takes 10 hours to charge, what do I care? It's charging while I'm asleep. There's no need to install a Level 2 charger unless you're commuting long distances every day.
And the L1 charger, while slightly less efficient than L2, is easier on your old battery thanks to less heat generated while charging. Very important during the summertime in hot climates and unair-conditioned garages.
@@jacobolmos2475 I estimate for an average of 500 miles of driving per month my electric bill has increased between $10 and $15. It's incredibly cheap. One reason is my utility offers Time of Use billing. The cheapest rate is between 11 PM and 6 AM, which is also of course when I charge the car. (I also run the washing machine, dryer and dishwasher then.) The car is also very efficient, it gets the equivalent of 119 mpg.
At 3 years my Tesla Model 3 warned me that the low voltage battery was in need of replacement. The Tesla ap on my phone warned me as well. It asked me if wanted a service call. I pressed yes, and the next day a tech from Tesla came to my house and changed out the battery, no charge, (money that is). Say want you want, but that's damn good service as far as I am concerned.
My Tesla Model Y has a Li-ion secondary battery, not a lead-acid one. Should last as long as the traction battery, several hundred thousand miles. The longest mileage current Tesla has over 400,000 miles on the original battery. The next generation ones are expected to last a Million miles. I will never buy another gasoline powered car; this one is so much better.
If the car is used regularly, the secondary battery will last well. But people are having problems, with all makes, when they've left the car for a fortnight at an airport while on holiday. Any similar delay will bring a risk of the secondary battery failing, or at least going flat, preventing access to the car.
I just bought a Model Y so Scotty is making me nervous. He does have a point about the cost of battery replacements after warranty. That will have a huge affect on resale value compared to ICE cars. I've only owned used ICE cars and I've never needed an engine replacement and even if I did it would be far cheaper than a battery replacement. It's vital that battery servicing and replacement costs come down. They need to find a way to quickly detect and replace bad cells.
Here is the point: In an electric car, the secondary battery is recharged from the traction battery by a buck converter that reduces the traction battery's voltage to the secondary voltage appropriate to recharge that battery. This should continue to happen as long as there is power still in the traction battery, whether the car is being driven or just sitting. The immense amount of power in the traction battery should easily furnish the trickle of power needed to keep the secondary battery charged for weeks or months, unless there is a relatively heavy real-time drain on it, such as Tesla's "sentry mode" or cabin overheat protection, or "Dog mode".. If the car is not designed to work this way, somebody screwed up in the engineering department. The car is never really "off" in the same sense that a TV with a remote controller is never "off"; it is just waiting to be told to open up so the driver can get in and go when his phone or Tesla card is detected nearby.
Yep, a 15 second search on Google will tell you exactly where the OBD to port is on a Tesla. But you don't need it because all of that information is in the diagnostic screen on the center console.
There's some truth to Tesla not supporting right to repair but that's history. The screen has built in diagnostic. There are guides published. Also, Scotty sells the device he's complaining can't be used.
My son has a Toyota Prius made in 2005. We replaced the high voltage battery last year and it cost $2000. It was not difficult and now the car is back on the road driving as it was designed to. The battery was 18 years old. Equating batteries in EV's with the phone replacement every three years is not comparing apples to apples. Is an EV for everyone in today's market? No. But there is no denying that they are more efficient when using energy. A good internal combustion setup will net about 35% by the time power gets to the tires. Times change whether we like it of not. People thought at one time that giving up a horse for a car was stupid.
It depends.... If you charge your car from solar panels it is true, but if not, your tail pipe is in the stack of the powerplant and EV's energy efficiency should be related to a primary fuel.
Despite the major energy losses, a power plant is still more efficient than a car's engine. Recall that an internal combustion engine loses around 80% of the energy that goes into it. A coal-burning power plant loses around 68% of its energy, power plants will have the advantage of generating more watts per unit of pollutant
I need some help with this one Scotty. My 2020 I Pace entered the service Department in Frisco Texas, on October 2023. For multiple traction battery failures. It’s still there today waiting for another battery module. Every time one is replaced, another one fails during the test drive. JLR North America stated that it Qualifies for a repurchase and opened a case for approval. Eighteen days later. I got a call with an offer of a $4,000 credit towards the purchase of another Jaguar I Pace. JLR Frisco doesn’t want an I pace that is in service for battery failures. The vehicle has under 37,000 miles, and is in new condition, however it is worthless until the traction battery issue is resolved. JLR North America stated that their is no escalation process. Take the in store credit or seek outside arbitration. The vehicle is still under the manufacturers full warranty. I have reached out to a few famous automotive UA-camrs, because the world needs to know JLR’s process for failing Vehicles that are under full manufacturers warranty.
I have an ICE and EV. It’s an easy choice to drive my EV any chance I get over my ICE vehicle. Why? Far less maintenance, less expense energy cost, quieter, faster, less fatiguing to drive. I don’t hate my ICE I just don’t see why there is so much push back on EV. What’s wrong with having options and not being dependent on any one type of energy?
Agree. They’re just so just darn comfortable and quiet. It’s nice not to have gear changes, belt driven A/C compressors clunking in and out, and the slight loss of power when it does kick in
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh Fossil fuels are finite and at some point we will not have any more. Is it really wise to try to see how long we can go without developing an alternative source of fuel (ie. solar power, windmills, hydrogen, etc to slow the use of fossil fuels) especially when fossil fuels are so heavily relied on for energy, manufacturing, plastics, rubber, etc. I never said I need government to fund or pay for my electricity but I agree its a nice perk of driving an EV. Besides if WE the tax payers can fund billions in foreign aid, free healthcare, and fighting wars in other nations I'm not going to feel bad about getting some subsidized electricity.
Commute 184 miles a day. Purchased my standard plus model 3 with 15k miles. At 180k miles the HV battery went out. Was $9k to replace. Now at 226k and counting on the chassis with the new battery. Electric cars aren’t for the weak. You have be conscious of where you travel and always factor charging in between if you do have one. You 100% need a lvl 2 charger at home. Despite that, I’m on the same brake pads they still look brand new. My ac is still blowing cold (with a radiator clean in between and routine cabin filter replacement). Overall the electric car has been a wonderful experience over here.
The current battery tech which cannot last 20 years is bad, we all need a EV which support battery swap. You are always a one swap behind the new battery tech and no worries after that. Ever.
How many cars with 180k would have dropped a timing chain and scrambled the engine. After you got that fixed the 8 speed transmission would take a dump. Even a good quality EV with high miles and a replacement battery is a better choice than any gas car.
My 2015 Ford Focus Electric is rated by the EPA at 76 miles range. It still charges to 90 miles. A set of tires, wipers, and washer fluid is all the maintenance it's needed so far. Still has the factory brake pads, thanks to regenerative braking. It's handled all my commuting just fine with regular 120V Level 1 overnight charging. But yes, I also have a gas car for the couple times a year i have to drive beyond its range.
I won't ever buy another ICE car. Had my tesla for 4 years and have saved 1000's of $. I have 320 mile range. Currently have 90,000 miles and it's still like new. Still have 60,000 more miles on the warranty. Would never buy a BMW. By the time my battery dies, the new batteries will have a 700- 750 mile range and will charge in 5-10 minutes. That will be 3 years. I bought a 220 splitter and ran it off my dryer. It was only about 30 feet but to where I charge. Cost $350. So every day when I start I have a full tank and it cost $7 to fill up.
Why choose an old BMW electric model that was really a concept car with a low range to start with, cost silly money and still lost BMW money for every car sold. It's still not perfect but battery technology is being improved year on year. Some Tesla's have 400,000 on the clock and living in the UK I've never taken a car past 80,000.
I just bought my first EV & love it. I charge in my garage & use it only for a commuter car, it's also fun to drive. I also have an ICE car for long distance trips but I drive the EV most of the time. If you are concerned about the cost of buying an EV then get a used one, they tend to have lower miles than an ICE car & are much simpler in design & need very little maintenance. I have (Qty.22) 320 watt solar panels on my roof so charging is free.
@@zarthemad8386 Got new roof before the panels went 5 years ago & no leaks. Been charged in a garage for 7 years & no fires. ATV's are illegal to drive on city streets where I live.
@@JKlessig Eh depends where you live. The US only got 10% of its energy from coal in 2022. China and india are much higher. Me personally I'd rather have natural gas power plants in industrial areas with scrubbers on them that power EV's, than tons of combustion vehicles in residential areas of the city/suburbs. Yeah nuclear would be a MUCH better option but if I had to chose between fossil fuel power plants in industrial areas and combustion engines in residential areas I'd chose power plants in industrial areas.
I couldn't argue with any of your points. People need to learn how use an electric car first. You should never run it dead and you should only charge it to 80%. I understand that is giving up even more range. It's a little inconvenient and most people aren't willing to be inconvenienced. I bought a 2012 leaf for $3500usd four years ago, I put 30,000 miles on it in 3 years and lost 5 miles of range. I only charged it at work so the car paid for itself in 3 years with just my gas savings.
I have driven my Chevy Bolt for 6 and 1/2 years. I bought a new 12 volt battery 2 years ago. It sits in my garage connected to a maintenance charger. My original battery still works fine. My Bolt has performed flawlessly and I have saved thousands in gas, oil, smog tests, and maintenance. I will never again buy an ICE vehicle.
just mentioning all those level 1 chargers that operate at 120volt @15amp also run at 240volt at 15 amp. all you need to do is run a 240 20 amp outlet and plug it in. just drill a hole through the basement wall and some underground wire on a GFI breaker . and for those that have a dryer in the garage to bypass an electrician. just get an extension cord made up to charger for your EV from the dryer outlet like some RV that have 240v connections if you are cheap
True. "Y" cables with a plug for the clothes dryer, and a plug for the EV cost about $50 bucks. I used one. No electrician need. Wife cleans and dries clothes during the day , and at night I charge my car. My car will accept 32 amps, but the driers is only 30 amps , so I charge at only 26 amp. A lot better that the 8-12 amp of the 110 vac that charges at a rate of 4 miles per hour.
Shhhh dude. It is obvious that this video and comments do not want ant solutions. All they want is to trash things they do not understant and do not like :D
Actually on tesla's u can access vehicle controls then press software, then hold on the model name for a few seconds. Type "service" in the prompt. This tells you a lot of info about the car just like that scan tool.
I have had a Tesla X for 8 years and love it more than when it was new. It gets free tech updates and now almost drives itself. Very cool, everyone I meet wants a to ride in it and likes it. It costs me only 10 to fully charge it. I charge it overnight and never have to stop at a gas station.
it's not typically going to cost $3K to setup home charging and it's not like you will be charging from 0 to full very often. So charging time is a non-issue. Insurance prices is the worst aspect of owning an EV. I hope that gets resolved. Insurance companies are killing us.
Installing a charging station is about $1k average in the US and most people do not need one. I have an hour-long all-highway commute and I use the cable that came with my Model 3 and a $40 adapter to charge off my 220V dryer outlet. Easily recovers me to full, even though I have a long workday, and only costs about $2 a day. Literally every point Scotty made is false information and he should be ashamed.
@@catbert7 You're lucky to have a 220v near where you park your car. I had to upgrade my panels (old house) but that was something I needed to do anyway. That cost $1500. The EV charger cost me $800 to install. But the cool thing is never having to go to a gas station again.
Right now EV owners can behave as if they are saving the planet because the mass media are covering up the harm that the EV industry are causing to this planet.
The software to diagnose and do service on Teslas is called Toolbox, and is a free download. You do need a special cable for the oddball connector under the glovebox. The stuff about the grid not being able to cope is inaccurate. The whole country will not get EVs overnight. It will take a couple of decades at least, probably 3 to get there. It’s relatively gradual compared to the speed at which the grid can be upgraded and moved to lower carbon sources of power. And you schedule the charge to run at the best time - utilities encourage this by giving you cheaper power at the best time to charge. You don’t need a Level 2 charger, a NEMA 14-50 socket will suffice with the mobile charger; you still get 240V * 40A = 9.6kW; not far from the 48A you can juice from a real level 2 charger on a 60A 240V circuit (11.5kW). RV parks have those sockets, too. You may encounter some trouble codes which are junk with any vehicle, especially one that doesn’t get over-the-air updates. It’s just software/firmware bugs, but especially if you sit. Get an alert/warning, they’re often harmless. All good questions to ask and I enjoyed the healthy skepticism in this video, but I think we’re moving towards less and less of this pain over time. Just shop around and get the deal which seems to have the best value for what you need. I normally tell people to make sure the vehicle gets OTA updates and has a long battery warranty: 6+ years. For everything else, go with what suits you.
Also, I installed a wall connector on the other side of my house to my main panel. It was just a matter of running 6/2 (with ground) cable across the house. It’s about $3/foot, more for small quantities. I bought and ran mine myself for my current house, and paid a sparky $80 or so for the connection.
Bullsh*t! My wife owns 2019 Model 3 Tesla, zero problems not covered under warranty. I own a 2021 Model Y. Same story. There's soo many reasons it was the best selling car in the world in 2023! Besides being roomier, faster, impossible to steal, and more luxurious than cars of comparable price EVs are also way cheaper to operate. It's simply been the best car I've ever owned (since 1984)! Its paying for itself. Zero maintenance costs in 2.5years -- well, except for new tires after 45k miles. No new brakes. No oil changes. No transmission servicing. No transmission to fail. Those are all real savings. No waiting to pump gas. Everynight I plug in my car, go to bed, and its ready to go. No idea how long it takes to charge... how long does your phone take? who cares?! Its a narrative. I save so much time not standing next to my car for 5-7min pumping gas every week. (that's 6hrs in a year of standing next to your car -- and that's not even the waiting in line at a Costco just to pump gas). Last year I drove ~20k miles resulting in a savings of $4,000 compared to the 2014 Jeep Wrangler I owned before. Same story the year prior. Do the math -- that's about $10k in savings in 2.5years! In 5years I'll have saved enough to replace a battery -- yet its got full warranty for 8yrs! The car is saving me so much it, it will pay for my next $40k car within 10years! Sure, purchase price was more, but with Jeep trade-in to Carvana it'll pay for itself in less than a decade. Total cost of ownership, its a thing!
@@steveswell1 no but soon, if not already, he'll be able to have "relations" inside the vehicle while it drives him around independent from his participation
You do NOT need a level 2 charger at your home. Just use a level 3 charger to charge to 80% and then use a level 1 charger to charge from 80-100% overnight. And if you don't drive much you can still get 40-80 miles of charge overnight using a level 1.
This guy is the chicken little of electrification and the LAST source I'd trust for advice when considering an EV. This is nothing more than performance art.
My battery for my 2018 volt is 9k . In 5 years of ownership I will have saved 15k by not buying gas. I have lost no range in 6 years. I only paid 23k . I love it
I have a 2017 Bolt EV. Bought it new December 2017. Still on the original 12v battery. Uh, all cars sold in the us have to have an obd port by law. Teslas all have one. All this crap he’s spouting is old old old FUD. I spent $425 to have a nema 14-50 outlet on a 50amp 240v breaker installed. I drive the car like a normal car. I never even think about range. It’s been dead reliable since I bought it. It paid for and you realize how much I’ve saved in gas, oil and other routine maintenance? A lot.
Can you fix it yourself in case it fails? I have nothing against the EV but they should not be pushed on people but let people decide what is best for them...
What does that matter? I have an 8 year 250,000 mile warranty on my battery? Next excuse? I understand you guys are gas guys. But my Tesla will destroy 95% of anything you build or buy for a fraction of the price. @@solarflare4259
I also have 2017 Bolt, the battery was warranty replaced in 2022. I love this car, AND it has no catalytic converter to get stolen, no emmissions check needed. I will NEVER go back to ICE cars.
That's not a lot of battery degradation for an almost 10 year old car. The i3 only had 81 miles of range to begin with. So if the 70 miles of range works for your driving needs, then just use it the way it is, there's no need to replace the battery (would not make economical sense to do so anyways.)
Cheap unfounded statement. You have not experience to make that statement. Tesla does quite well. My 2013 Tesla Model S had 93% of it’s original range at 10 years.
@@N4HHEgive it another 4-5yrs. End of day its still a lithium battery. Your near end of life. All it takes is one fail cell. Cost to replacement for battery pack will cost more than the car is worth.
Things are indeed stagnant in EV world until the next generation of drastically improved batteries. Toyota is betting on solid-state batteries, which are better in every way theoretically than current tech
@@paulcliffe8168 I should hope with 162K there would not be a blown engine. Most cars can go over 200k without engine problems but German sports sedans not so much🤣
@@allankoivu3263 genuinely, I've had 8 BMW's. I buy them at 80 or 90k miles, run them to 200k miles. I've never had any serious problems. Always kept up with preventive maintenance. Parts are cheap and plentiful. I can only talk about my personal experience, but they are solid cars.
Tesla doesn't need a tool for diagnostics, use "Service Mode" through the touch screen. Read out any trouble codes. No tools to buy. And the service manual is online and is updated regularly.
I get that the hv battery replacement cost is high on tesla, however all the money you save from not paying gas should very well pay for that battery replacement and you need to take care of the battery to make sure it doesnt break. Keeping the battery cool and keeping it betweeen 20-80% and not fast charging every single time is a good way to keep the hv battery healthy.
Actually I believe that there is no discernible increase in battery degradation due to level 3 charging, at least according to Tesla's data analysis and other, independent sources.
Scotty is correct on all of these things he mentions but also be aware, technology on electric cars is advancing quickly so when you drive it off the lot it declines in value astronomically. It is because the range of the cars goes up each generation and the charging time goes down. When solid state batteries come on the market in the next 10 years it will make the current crop of electric cars nearly worthless - as they are forecasted to go as much as 600 miles between charges and take as little as 15 minutes to charge if the voltage is high enough (a different problem coming).
That's why you should buy a Toyota or Lexus hybrid. Although it's basically also a electric car, you can still drive on the ICE engine, and if you hybrid battery is dead after twenty years, you can change that old Metal hydroxide battery under the rear seat in your own garage for a Lithium type within two hours. No mechanic needed ! Total costs about €1500,-
A lot is changing in the ev field. Charging capabilities as well as range has improved dramatically and i would like to say an ev has the least chance of fire out of ice,hybrid and ev.
LOL…….sorry you have very little thought process. People aren’t buying them for too many reasons. They are horrible on the environment and yet brainless get them. SMH woke
That's selective criticism. Gas vehicles require many resources to manufacture, but also pollute during use. All the minerals used in batteries have other uses too, Cobalt is also used to make airbags in automobiles; catalysts for the petroleum and chemical industries; cemented carbides (also called hardmetals)
The cost to replace a Model Y battery is $9000, parts and labor. But I have a 8 yr/120,000 mile battery/drivetrain warranty. I'm good til 2030. And there are lots of 200,000 mile Teslas out there now still on the original battery. There's even a high mileage Tesla Club now. ...Stop spreading myths and half-truths about EVS.
haven't met a battery car owner who has considered the end game of sustainable goals agenda 2030 yet, they all just think we're heading for flying cars like the jetsons, reality is you're in a jackpot
@@steveswell1 Used car prices for Teslas are really not that much lower than gas cars. They were much higher in early 2023. But the used car prices for EVs are rising right now, and Tesla just reported a 40% increase in sales of their used cars.
We had an I9, 2017, in 2022 27k miles the battery box modal went bad, 9k repair bmw tried to not cover it it was hell trying to get it fixed for free, had to goto multiple dealerships till i could find a non corrupt one, finally got it for free. sold it immediately and will never touch a bmw again. How can some dealerships say it not covered under warranty and some say it is? My Tesla on the other hand i never had any problems with and it had 60k miles on it. The best thing about an electric cars is zero maintenance and 9 dollar fillups at home as opposed to like a 35 dollar fill ups at a gas station for a civic for instance.
Scotty, you are hilarious! As someone who works on electric cars, I had a good laugh at this video. You were right about half of your observations but so far off on half.
I am an electrical engineer, and Scotty was right on 64.625% of his assessments in this video. On other channels I am a doctor or oceanographer or professional golfer. It's fun to pretend
For as long as I can remember we have had "Friday" cars and complete "Lemons" which, as you say, we should run away from. However, just because we have the same occasional problem with EV's it doesn't mean that all EV's are rubbish, anymore than it meant that all ICE cars were rubbish. The new technology is getting better every year. Batteries last for 10 years or more (with about 10% degradation). A 10 year old ICE car is probably blowing out smoke, has a leaky head gasket etc etc. If you have the ability to charge at home, EV's are well worth considering.
I just got a Model Y recently and it's like nothing I've had before. It's like 2010 all over again when I first had a smart phone and could never go back to a Nokia. The reason why Tesla warranty is 4 years is the same as the reason why you upgrade phone every few years. Techs change fairly quickly. Gone are the days when you buy a car and keep it for 10+ years.
There were, undoubtedly, thousands of guys claiming gasoline cars will never replace the horse and buggy. And I'm sure there were tens of thousands of guys saying the telephone was never going to catch on. I'm sure Bing Crosby was warned to stay away from that newfangled radio. The fact is one dollar of electric energy will carry a car about 6 times further than one dollar of gasoline. Today's electric car technology is still in its infancy so ICE still has the advantage on reliability, and up front costs. But that is slowly changing day-by-day.
Yes, AFTER, the two times the price of the battery powered car is paid for. Figure in that math, and you will never save money buying an electric car. By the time it's break even, the batteries need to be replaced, and you are back in a deep financial hole!!! Then there are the MANY OTHER, drawbacks such as cold weather, hot weather and range plus the TIME, needed to recharge. How much is an hour and a half of time worth, in terms of price of gas or electricity. Because on a long trip, not really very long, several hours of recharging is needed, but, two stops at a gas station only takes 20 minutes and that's taking a bathroom break, grabbing a drink and slice of pizza or a hot dog.
"one dollar of electric energy will carry a car about 6 times further than one dollar of gasoline." Prove this, and then do the same for one dollar of diesel.
@@davidmoore5225 I would never advise somebody to own an electric car as their only car, but most households have at least two cars. Electric cars are super great for short trips. I wouldn't say I get 6 times the range for a dollar versus gas, but it's easily 4 times. The car it replaced was not large or an SUV, so the mileage was pretty good for a gas powered car. I easily get 6 times the range if compared to a Suburban. My car came with a level 2 charger, and it cost under a grand to install the 220 line. Granted, the outlet is pretty close to the main panel, but the car manufacturer offered a credit against the cost of installation and the electrician quoted us $1,000 over the credit. The electricians know about the credit, so they overcharge. I declined the credit and used my regular guy. He's not cheap, but he's honest The car easily charges overnight so I'm not losing any time. If I had to go somewhere that exceeded the range, I would use our other car, so I'm never going to charge it anywhere but at home. One advantage the gets overlooked is the fact that there are very few moving part so there are less things to break and go wrong. I have regenerative braking which is fantastic. On a normal drive I never touch the brake pedal. My brakes will never wear out. I doubt I'll need to replace the battery while I own the car. I expect that the resale value will take into account the depreciation of the battery but it's not something I'm going to lose sleep over. Nothing is for free, so if you lease an electric car, the depreciation of the battery will be factored into the lease price
I have coffee with a bunch of grumpy old men once a week. Scotty, unfortunately, sounds like them. They dislike anything different. Wind power, battery cars, cars without points, 5000 mile oil changes, solar roof panels, my battery powered weed eater (they really hate that), etc., etc. are all targets of their mis-guided anger. They still bring up issues that were fixed 25 years ago, but it doesn't matter. I am the perfect candidate for a battery car. Retired, drive about 100 miles per week, live in the South in a small country town. I can't wait for the time to buy a new car. The coffee club will go crazy. Thx.
Sounds like the same logic for the HV batteries apply for getting a new engine for a gas car. You can either buy new and spend a lot, replace the bad parts, or buy a used complete one. The buyer needs to be aware of this inevitability regardless of if it's a gas or electric car. Nothing's changed here. As for the obd missing on Teslas, there's a service mode that techs can access and how to get into it is accessible on the internet. No need to complain about something you just haven't figured out yet Scotty!
I whish to see an electric car that lasts 40 years... Some electronic components within the system will degrade long before that time...It's not just the battery issue.
@@solarflare4259 according to a tear down analysis by Munro, he believes Tesla when they say their drivetrain is engineered to last up to 1,000,000 miles. If the cooling system is properly maintained then the control electronics should also last a very long time.
I'm 62 and I've had my Tesla Model Y for almost 12 months now and for multiple reasons it's my favorite car I've ever owned. That said, EV's are not practical for people who don't have a home charger and off street parking, or who regularly drive very long distances. I have the ideal setup- a suburban home with off street parking and large solar panels that meet and even exceed my electricity needs at a much lower price than my horrible local energy company. I charge at home at night. The range on my Model Y Long Range far exceeds my daily needs for local driving but I always charge it up to 80% overnight for the next day. I've now taken it on several longer drives (long for the northeastern US that is) and I find that my bladder fills up before my battery runs out! By the time I've stopped at a rest area, stretched my legs and maybe gotten a snack my car is usually ready, or almost ready to go. I love how it drives. It's acceleration leaves my former car (an Audi A6) in the dust and makes highway driving, especially merging onto the highway, much safer IMO. No problems with the car so far. No oil changes or regular maintenance- just fill up the wiper fluid and rotate the tires. I oppose heavy-handed government mandates outlawing gas powered vehicles. If EV's are good enough people will buy them. If they're not, don't mandate them! Again, people should know what they're getting into- EV's are not practical for everyone at this time. But they are light years ahead of where they used to be and I have no desire to go back to an ICE car ever again.
My motorhome on the cutaway Ford chassis has a Ford dealer installed battery by the previous owner. Purchased used eight years ago so the battery is at least eight years old. A good lead acid battery can last a decade or more if properly maintained.
He neglected to mention there is a minimum 8 year warranty on batteries by federal law so even if it did, the companies would have to replace it for free.
Scotty. Tap the Tesla logo for 10 seconds on the service screen. Type in "service" press enter. Then throw that back rippoff box with all its adapters in the bin.
I love this guy! He tells it like it is! But I don't think he could talk without his arms! He's great! Thank you for your thorough explanations about all aspects of the vehicles you are reviews.
That BMW was one of the first electric cars made. It was an experiment. The temperature management has come a long way. Batteries are much better now. People put 250,00+ miles on Teslas that still have 75% of their original range. LFP batteries can last 600,000 miles or more.
I used 110 charging for my Model Y for a year without a problem when my level 2 cable got damaged. I drive around 20 to 30 miles a day. You can easily charge overnight. Now if you're driving more than that a day it's going to be an issue. I got the L2 charger when I had a small range EV. Definitely needed it then if I wanted go out to dinner or run to the store after work. And if you only have 110 and you go on a long trip, stop at a super charger before you go home. I agree the battery replacement is an issue if it has to be done out of warranty. And I'd avoid EV's if I couldn't charge at home.
Depends if you are a long commuter. I will likely be driving 90 miles a day soon which isn't unusual for people in my area if not more. Really depends on lifestyle. But the longer the commute, the more you save in gas when transferring to EV.
The voltage imbalance in a 9 year old i3 that hasn't been fastcharged everyday has a voltage imbalance of maybe 10-14mV. At 70 miles range, the car has almost no degradation whatsoever since it was new. A level 2 charger isn't that complicated to put up.
Then you had to replace all of the hoses, rebuild the engine, replace all of the fluids, and replace the rotted exhaust system. 😂 Your story is about as real as Joe Biden's 6 golf handicap.
Fun to watch Derek of Vice Grip Garage go to old abandoned vehicles and manage to get most of them running with a lot of blood sweat and tears…and cold snacks. At the end of the day and with very few exceptions he’s just polishing a turd. He knows this too, but it’s still fun to watch.
I agree. new cars have many issues. 100k does seem to be the life span of these newer cars. My daily driver is a 1966 Riviera GS mz code 425 nailhead. all power with super cold AC. I use a optima battery ($300) that I change about every 4 years. rides super smooth like if I'm an a cloud. every year that goes by my car increases in value while these new craps dramatically go down in value.
@@ronperez784 Now....about the centuries long pollution emitted by your vehicles and how dangerous it is for you, passengers, and other vehicles with its lack of safety features.
We bought a 2023 Chevy Bolt for just under 30k. Got a $7500 tax credit so we ended up paying just under 22k. I installed the outlet for the level two charger (the car came with it) in the garage myself in under 15 minutes and less than fifty bucks. It charges at a rate of 26 miles of range per hour. The battery has an 8 year warranty. This is our second EV in the family and none have had any problems. If you are smart enough to do the math on what it costs to charge you will see that we are saving huge amounts not having to purchase gas and maintenance. We also own an eleven year old Prius and a fourteen year old Camry hybrid that we were warned about all the cost of replacing the batteries. Still going strong on the factory batteries. Sorry Scotty but I think you need some education.
The EV tax credit is disgusting. Wait until a per-mile tax is implemented on EVs. Getting free money and not paying 55 cents/gallon tax to maintain roads is coming to an end soon.
I drive a 2022 Polestar 2 with 26k miles. Range dropped from 220 miles to 210 since I leased it. Depending on where you live, electricity can be a huge savings. I save over $300/mo in fuel costs compared to the V6 I used to drive. Charging at home is great, but the Electrify America chargers are junk. I routinely find less than half the chargers work at the stations I visit. They are also extremely expensive. IMO the car is great, but the charging network is absolutely terrible. Undecided on whether I will buy the vehicle when the lease ends soon.
@@SheldonKreger I will be honest, I don't use the charging network unless I ABSOLUTELY have to. But the convenience in an EV is the cheapness and convenience of just charging at home. Idk, for me I will never go back to an ICE car, but its nice seeing someone that's actually tried an EV that genuinely gives it a shot if you don't keep it.
I think a lot of people could get by just fine using only Level 1 charging for their EV. Unless you have an unusually long daily commute, on most days, you would not likely use up all the range you got simply by Level 1 charging each night. On the days you did use more, you could "catch back up" on the other days. Once in a while, if you had done a long trip, you may need to use a public charger. All this is based on my experience with my Honda Clarity, which gives me about 75 km/day of range from Level 1 charging. I go months without ever using any gas. The idea of leasing an EV may be a good one but not really for the reasons Scotty gave. The main reason is that EVs are improving so quickly that you may not be satisfied with your EV that gets 500 km range in a few years when other EVs that get 1000 km range will be available.
the problem with the media on the web is that the algorithm filters and routes this information to a specific group of people not to the young naive people. The 18-30 year olds are the ones that get scammed ripped off the most.
I've owned an electric car since 2017 (non-Tesla) and never had a need for a level 2 charger. I drive an average of 40 miles a day and my level 1 charger plugged into a standard 115v 20-amp outlet has no problem charging my EV overnight. When I occasionally do go more than 40 miles, say 200 miles, even though it does not charge fully over night, I still have plenty of charge to go where I want to in the morning and it charges up fully after 2 days, no problem. If I feel I will not have enough charge in the morning, I can always go to a DC charger and charge up quickly for 15 minutes and then complete the charging at home. After 7 years, I have never had the need to do that. I have gone on long road trips 3 times with no problem. Oh, and there has been no noticeable degradation of range.
Scotty that battery tester box does not work. There is 100% no way to test additional life span of any battery even a new battery. That is a fact. 2 days 5 years that tester has no way of knowing
@@chrisstradling2535its true. You CAN test the cells individually, but you can only average the amperage between multiple cells in a series/paralel configuration. Testing cell by cell - true Testing a bank - false
I love my 2014 cadillac ELR. It's essentially a gen 1 Chevy volt. It's a PHEV. I can get to and from work on electric, and for longer trips, it uses gas.
@maicoman1096 it will be a while yet before I have to. I plan on replacing it next year anyway. I'm getting a 4k tax rebate for buying it and that pays for half of the cost. And if I didn't want to replace it after the range is no longer there, I could just run it on gas. It's better than a pure electric vehicle in this regard.
I have a friend from canada that used to be an Engineer for Ford. He said electric cars in Canada leave people stranded all the time. especially during the winter. Its not worth the money you pay for them. unless you use it as a local car.
@@davefitzpatrick4841Percentage of people using g cars in Norway is less. Plus their population is cloistered more in large cities and their public transport is better.
@@henrylicious the average commute in the USA is 42 miles a day, most modern EVs can do 250-300 miles even in winter , frankly the argument is a none starter .
My 2013 model S has 181,000 miles. It’s on its original battery. Don’t let these guys scare you away. My car has been flawless. Talk to areal owner. I got some videos on my channel about my journey.
It’s good to have a balanced viewpoint from both sides. That’s great you’ve had a good run on your model S obviously not every electric car is going to be giving problems and many people and owners will have great experiences. However there are two sides to every coin and certainly some electric models have had lots of problems including battery failures Just as some hydrocarbon cars that were new to the market were the same so one experience with one car is not to be discounted but certainly it is not representative necessarily of 1 million cars million experiences and 10 different brands
I have a five year old model 3 p. Scott keeps telling me my car sucks and it keeps winning races with porches driving itself and not going to the shop. He just hates electric cars. I wish he would live with one since he is so off base with my experience.
Electrification would have been a great opportunity to implement a battery standard for modules, but out of corporate greed every manufacturer has to sell you his own overpriced soup.
It is not a bigger battery, it is a large collection of batteries comprising a battery pack. The number of batteries, their composition and chemical content can vary wildly. Also the battery management can differ greatly. Some are active cooled, some are passive cooled. Whatever the state of the car, the battery pack is always extremely valuable - even if it has degraded over time. If you prefer, you can always stick to Internal combustion engine vehicles. As we all know, they never need replacement disks or brakes or exhaust systems or sensors or spark plugs or injectors or serpentine belts or cam belts or water pumps or fuel pumps or filters or endless litres of oil or clutches or gearboxes or 12v batteries or complicated engine management units.
Some of these level 2 chargers require 80amps. Many older houses only have 100amp service. Even newer houses with 200amp service could have problems if you already have a tankless water heater, electric heating, or some other item that draw a lot of power.
Some good info here, but mixed in with some Tesla hate that's completely unwarranted. Teslas actually have all of the OBD diagnostics built in to their computer. You can tap the screen, enter a universal code, and then test your own battery cells. This removes the need to waste money on some diagnostic third party computer.
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Can I ask you some questions about a car I'm having trouble out of
A woman put a toddler in her back seat of her Tesla and was going to go somewhere when that accessory battery died and she couldn't open the door to get the child out. Tesla's have no external mechanical key hole so there was no way to get in without trying to jump charge the accessory battery. Time was crucial because the poor kid couldn't get out so she called 911. The fire department had to break out one of her windows to get to the child. Stupid design by Tesla and other car companies need to take note. Sounds like this is a good example for a lawsuit and a recall.
Your welcome Scotty!!! U made your way onto Google is suggesting your content wow
@@robertlawrence9000this story is very fishy. The genius let the car battery go to zero? You know how hard that is to do in a Tesla? What do you want Tesla to do, make a physical key for manual emergency entry that no one will take with them or go back to insecure and antiquated physical keys for their vehicles? Do you know how many dumb Walmart parents leave their kids in hot ICE cars every ear that have to have the windows broken out? This is a perfect example of an isolated incident caused by a freaking moronic parent that the media is spinning as a possible norm. Give me a break.
3:28 and there we go more proof nobody is doing anything about the polution problem nobody is goig to waste that much moeny on a new battery. so they will just junkt he car. probly end up in a land fill. with battery acid leaking into the enviorment hopfully it will posion the water supply so the idiots that buy these things learn. ohhh yea e waste in the food supply delicious.
I work next to a place that repairs Teslas. The guys who work there all drive Honda and Toyota. Smart guys.
Ha. Nice info.
Kind of says it all doesn’t it? Yes they may be fine for short trips around town and into suburbia but longer trips, forget about it.
@@crabbymilton390 Mean't for 15-min city's of the WEF's envisioned future.
Sure, probably because he is not smart. What do you expect from a mechanic.
@AJ-sp7pc clearly not that smart, maybe if they repaired other cars they'd know how much other cars fail compared to tesla, or maybe they bought Toyota because Toyota and honda are cheap. Mechanics sadly aren't paid enough in this country.
Modern cars are unnecessarily complex. We serve the car more than it serves us.
More truth than most will admit to
@@billthomas8994I guess it's trying to keep up with the Jones that's more important that paying attention to reality
@@Mr_natenut I don't know what you mean by that, but "The Jones" will be able to buy cheaper EVs in the future than comparable ICE because ICE is more complicated and costly to create on the same scale as EV. The incentive for manufacturers right now is to sell to upscale customers and capture that profit, but we are seeing now that THAT is not sustainable, so time to build that affordable small EV for the young population already!!! They are waiting with cash in hand.
EVs are far simpler than modern ICE.
And by simpler you mean insanely complex, right? Thanx
If you want to know about EVs, ask someone who's really owned one, make sure you see them driving it because the liars are desperate.
Good, then I won't bother asking you about EVs then, because looking at your ridiculous threads and responses posted below, it's obvious you don't own one either. Like you say, the liars are desperate. 🙄🙄🙄
@@Reindeer911 I'm not telling you, don't even ask
I bought a 2013 volt brand new. Some recalls, always serviced at dealer. Have replaced touch control and blower. 935 dollars. Gets 35 miles on electric charge. 94150 miles on it. Average mileage is 83 miles per gallon. Hard to justify buying a new car when the car you have runs perfectly.
Best car ever!
Sounds great for some people, but that wouldn't get me to and home from work on a charge.
@@Janetsfear it’s a plug in hybrid. Still has a gas engine for when the charge gets depleted.
I don't understand the mileage. My dash says 122 mpg, but on gas I only get 42 mpg. I will die without figuring out all about this Volt.
@@paultempesta139 it is a combined electric and gas lifetime average
He literally picked the worst electric car possible to give as an example. The BMW i3 was an abysmal ev even when launched...
Yeah, that’s why the seller is trying to pass the buck and why the potential buyer consulted with Scotty
Those batteries are way cheaper than Scotty said.
@@davidroberts5600 well, i’m sad to say honesty and Scotty don’t see eye eye when it comes to electric cars.
It's a great EV for commuting and as long as it's in warranty. I LOVED my i3 while I had it, but my Carmax warranty paid for itself with minor fixes and I upgraded to a Model 3 so I could drive longer distance. But if I ever need to buy a used commuter car I'll definitely consider an i3 again.
@@BrianSFischerguess you are a never in doubt but often wrong kind of dude
I just leased a 2024 Hyundai IONIQ 5 last weekend and I love it so far. I charge it at home and it gives me a little more than my 50 mile trip to work and back. And I found a level 3 fast charger only 5 miles from my place that is FREE!
I drive 60 miles a day. My EV charges in a couple hours at home. I backup my entire house with it and it runs everything including AC. My insurance is $109 per month. I don't see a downside.
Wait a couple years!
@@MrJamespeyton Tesla batteries have 8 year warranty or 100,000 miles. If in 8 years your battery degradation is more than 30% they will replace the battery for free. CATL is the biggest BEV battery maker in the world, they guarantee their latest LFP battery for 15 years and they work fine in cold weather.
asides from depreciation, there is no downside. these idiots just like to hate on EVs
@@weho_brian Why are they so expensive though
@@bingybingy2592 EVs are expensive mainly due to the high costs of battery production, advanced technology, and the lack of economies of scale compared to traditional internal combustion engine vehicles. The average price of a car sold in the US is $48,000, so its not just EVs.
I'll just buy a horse.
So it can fart and make the democrats upset. AOC especially.
You could vote for a orange horse 🐴
Or a scooter 😅
Good for environment
Go Amish!
I've owned an i3 for 8 years (2014 model, purchased new in 2016). I was away for all of December and parked the car in my garage. When I returned the small 12V battery had died. Replacement cost $180 and took a week to arrive. That battery lasted 9.5 years, 7.5 years while I owned it. Not bad. (BTW, the 12V battery plus two sets of tires are the only maintenance items I've needed to replace. This car has saved me a lot of money.)
Also, I've been charging the car using a 110V outlet for 7.5 years. I plug it in at the end of the day and charge it overnight. If it takes 10 hours to charge, what do I care? It's charging while I'm asleep. There's no need to install a Level 2 charger unless you're commuting long distances every day.
Smart! 2015 BMW i3 REX, it's been great. Also 15 Fiat 500e, 23 Chevy Bolt EV.
And the L1 charger, while slightly less efficient than L2, is easier on your old battery thanks to less heat generated while charging. Very important during the summertime in hot climates and unair-conditioned garages.
Does your homes electricity bill increase significantly?
@@jacobolmos2475 I estimate for an average of 500 miles of driving per month my electric bill has increased between $10 and $15. It's incredibly cheap. One reason is my utility offers Time of Use billing. The cheapest rate is between 11 PM and 6 AM, which is also of course when I charge the car. (I also run the washing machine, dryer and dishwasher then.) The car is also very efficient, it gets the equivalent of 119 mpg.
I have a Zoe and a Kia E-niro. Average additional electricity cost is about 70$ per month for the both of them (wife drives one and I the other) 😊
At 3 years my Tesla Model 3 warned me that the low voltage battery was in need of replacement. The Tesla ap on my phone warned me as well. It asked me if wanted a service call. I pressed yes, and the next day a tech from Tesla came to my house and changed out the battery, no charge, (money that is). Say want you want, but that's damn good service as far as I am concerned.
You lost the average Scotty fan at "app". 😂. The rest was not a language or scenario they can comprehend.
Now you know the real reason Scotty dislikes Tesla.
Don’t rev up your electric car !
No need to with 100% torque at zero RPM😂
Yeah I never thought of that, just how do you rev up an EV?🤣
@@alangb2086 you can’t because it’s not necessary😎
@@alangb2086 You can rev up an engine you cant rev up a motor
My Tesla Model Y has a Li-ion secondary battery, not a lead-acid one. Should last as long as the traction battery, several hundred thousand miles. The longest mileage current Tesla has over 400,000 miles on the original battery. The next generation ones are expected to last a Million miles. I will never buy another gasoline powered car; this one is so much better.
If the car is used regularly, the secondary battery will last well. But people are having problems, with all makes, when they've left the car for a fortnight at an airport while on holiday. Any similar delay will bring a risk of the secondary battery failing, or at least going flat, preventing access to the car.
Scotty has developed a serious intellectual dishonesty issue when it comes to electric cars. It's pretty sad really.
I just bought a Model Y so Scotty is making me nervous. He does have a point about the cost of battery replacements after warranty. That will have a huge affect on resale value compared to ICE cars. I've only owned used ICE cars and I've never needed an engine replacement and even if I did it would be far cheaper than a battery replacement.
It's vital that battery servicing and replacement costs come down. They need to find a way to quickly detect and replace bad cells.
Have you priced out the replacement cost of that 12v Li-ion secondary battery? You will not find that is an off-the-shelf battery.
Here is the point: In an electric car, the secondary battery is recharged from the traction battery by a buck converter that reduces the traction battery's voltage to the secondary voltage appropriate to recharge that battery. This should continue to happen as long as there is power still in the traction battery, whether the car is being driven or just sitting. The immense amount of power in the traction battery should easily furnish the trickle of power needed to keep the secondary battery charged for weeks or months, unless there is a relatively heavy real-time drain on it, such as Tesla's "sentry mode" or cabin overheat protection, or "Dog mode".. If the car is not designed to work this way, somebody screwed up in the engineering department. The car is never really "off" in the same sense that a TV with a remote controller is never "off"; it is just waiting to be told to open up so the driver can get in and go when his phone or Tesla card is detected nearby.
Electrical cars with electrical issues?...the heck you say.
Biblical level irony isn't it.
The dickens you say!
Jed
Combustion engines burst into flames . How does that happen?
All man-made devices contain smoke. The trick is to keep the smoke from escaping.
G1!😅
Yep, a 15 second search on Google will tell you exactly where the OBD to port is on a Tesla. But you don't need it because all of that information is in the diagnostic screen on the center console.
It's an OBD port. And apparently not all Tesla's have a standard port.
Useless cause your not allowed to fix it FACT 🤡
@@frankcastle2045 There are services fixing it anyway, it's a fact.
There's some truth to Tesla not supporting right to repair but that's history. The screen has built in diagnostic. There are guides published.
Also, Scotty sells the device he's complaining can't be used.
@@JohnSmith-zi9or thanks for catching the fat fingers, corrected!
My son has a Toyota Prius made in 2005. We replaced the high voltage battery last year and it cost $2000. It was not difficult and now the car is back on the road driving as it was designed to. The battery was 18 years old. Equating batteries in EV's with the phone replacement every three years is not comparing apples to apples. Is an EV for everyone in today's market? No. But there is no denying that they are more efficient when using energy. A good internal combustion setup will net about 35% by the time power gets to the tires. Times change whether we like it of not. People thought at one time that giving up a horse for a car was stupid.
True
I love my Camry Hybrid.
@@nodebt6188friend had one, beautiful interior
It depends.... If you charge your car from solar panels it is true, but if not, your tail pipe is in the stack of the powerplant and EV's energy efficiency should be related to a primary fuel.
Despite the major energy losses, a power plant is still more efficient than a car's engine. Recall that an internal combustion engine loses around 80% of the energy that goes into it. A coal-burning power plant loses around 68% of its energy, power plants will have the advantage of generating more watts per unit of pollutant
I need some help with this one Scotty.
My 2020 I Pace entered the service Department in Frisco Texas, on October 2023. For multiple traction battery failures. It’s still there today waiting for another battery module. Every time one is replaced, another one fails during the test drive. JLR North America stated that it Qualifies for a repurchase and opened a case for approval. Eighteen days later. I got a call with an offer of a $4,000 credit towards the purchase of another Jaguar I Pace. JLR Frisco doesn’t want an I pace that is in service for battery failures. The vehicle has under 37,000 miles, and is in new condition, however it is worthless until the traction battery issue is resolved. JLR North America stated that their is no escalation process. Take the in store credit or seek outside arbitration.
The vehicle is still under the manufacturers full warranty. I have reached out to a few famous automotive UA-camrs, because the world needs to know JLR’s process for failing Vehicles that are under full manufacturers warranty.
Hahaha..what a sucker! 💸💸💸💸💸
Hire a lemon law attorney. Don't get another Jaguar.
Jaguar and new technology have always been a bad idea
I have a Ford Jaguar from '99.
It's got a 4.0 V8 and still good. Ford design premature failure into everything, Tata took it to the next level.
Jaguars are the most problematic cars ever made.
I have an ICE and EV. It’s an easy choice to drive my EV any chance I get over my ICE vehicle. Why? Far less maintenance, less expense energy cost, quieter, faster, less fatiguing to drive. I don’t hate my ICE I just don’t see why there is so much push back on EV. What’s wrong with having options and not being dependent on any one type of energy?
Absolutely.
Having options is freedom.
EV’s makes sense for a certain demographic. And can save them a lot of money.
Agree. They’re just so just darn comfortable and quiet. It’s nice not to have gear changes, belt driven A/C compressors clunking in and out, and the slight loss of power when it does kick in
Lemons 🍋 🍋 🍋
Where are you going to get the energy? Where are you going to get the money to upgrade the grid? Should the majority pay for your fuel savings?
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh Fossil fuels are finite and at some point we will not have any more. Is it really wise to try to see how long we can go without developing an alternative source of fuel (ie. solar power, windmills, hydrogen, etc to slow the use of fossil fuels) especially when fossil fuels are so heavily relied on for energy, manufacturing, plastics, rubber, etc. I never said I need government to fund or pay for my electricity but I agree its a nice perk of driving an EV. Besides if WE the tax payers can fund billions in foreign aid, free healthcare, and fighting wars in other nations I'm not going to feel bad about getting some subsidized electricity.
Commute 184 miles a day. Purchased my standard plus model 3 with 15k miles. At 180k miles the HV battery went out. Was $9k to replace. Now at 226k and counting on the chassis with the new battery. Electric cars aren’t for the weak. You have be conscious of where you travel and always factor charging in between if you do have one. You 100% need a lvl 2 charger at home. Despite that, I’m on the same brake pads they still look brand new. My ac is still blowing cold (with a radiator clean in between and routine cabin filter replacement). Overall the electric car has been a wonderful experience over here.
The current battery tech which cannot last 20 years is bad, we all need a EV which support battery swap. You are always a one swap behind the new battery tech and no worries after that. Ever.
How many cars with 180k would have dropped a timing chain and scrambled the engine. After you got that fixed the 8 speed transmission would take a dump. Even a good quality EV with high miles and a replacement battery is a better choice than any gas car.
Yeah the little kid that died in the Congo mining the cobalt for the giant battery on wheels would be happy for you
@@MrPERPS shoutout to the little homie!
Hoax @@MrPERPS
My 2015 Ford Focus Electric is rated by the EPA at 76 miles range.
It still charges to 90 miles.
A set of tires, wipers, and washer fluid is all the maintenance it's needed so far. Still has the factory brake pads, thanks to regenerative braking.
It's handled all my commuting just fine with regular 120V Level 1 overnight charging.
But yes, I also have a gas car for the couple times a year i have to drive beyond its range.
and you still are under 20k on the odometer
.... could have bought an atv or a go-cart for that type of driving
I won't ever buy another ICE car. Had my tesla for 4 years and have saved 1000's of $. I have 320 mile range. Currently have 90,000 miles and it's still like new. Still have 60,000 more miles on the warranty. Would never buy a BMW. By the time my battery dies, the new batteries will have a 700- 750 mile range and will charge in 5-10 minutes. That will be 3 years. I bought a 220 splitter and ran it off my dryer. It was only about 30 feet but to where I charge. Cost $350. So every day when I start I have a full tank and it cost $7 to fill up.
The Scotty fans are not interested in truth or facts. It ruins their perception of the world.
Most people have no clue what will happen next year with fsd.
Why choose an old BMW electric model that was really a concept car with a low range to start with, cost silly money and still lost BMW money for every car sold. It's still not perfect but battery technology is being improved year on year. Some Tesla's have 400,000 on the clock and living in the UK I've never taken a car past 80,000.
That is why I don't buy electric cars...
He chose a first generation car’s faults and tries to extend them to current EV’s. A big fail for anyone with at least half a brain.
I seriously doubt there is a Tesla out there with 400,000 miles on same battery or at all!
@@richardreno7188I doubt there’s a single ICE car out there above 250K miles that hasn’t needed some major work or maintenance done 🤷🏽♂️
@@vascoribeiro69 you will when that's all there is. Try and buy and then keep a horse for daily use today.
I just bought my first EV & love it. I charge in my garage & use it only for a commuter car, it's also fun to drive. I also have an ICE car for long distance trips but I drive the EV most of the time. If you are concerned about the cost of buying an EV then get a used one, they tend to have lower miles than an ICE car & are much simpler in design & need very little maintenance. I have (Qty.22) 320 watt solar panels on my roof so charging is free.
A leaky roof with sails, and a potential fire hazard in your garage when an ATV would work for your beer/grocery runs
/shrug
@@zarthemad8386 Got new roof before the panels went 5 years ago & no leaks. Been charged in a garage for 7 years & no fires. ATV's are illegal to drive on city streets where I live.
They're not electric cars. They're battery powered vehices.
Battery electric vehicles
Battery electric vehicles
Enclosed golf carts
@@JKlessig Eh depends where you live. The US only got 10% of its energy from coal in 2022. China and india are much higher.
Me personally I'd rather have natural gas power plants in industrial areas with scrubbers on them that power EV's, than tons of combustion vehicles in residential areas of the city/suburbs. Yeah nuclear would be a MUCH better option but if I had to chose between fossil fuel power plants in industrial areas and combustion engines in residential areas I'd chose power plants in industrial areas.
um, they are both!
I couldn't argue with any of your points. People need to learn how use an electric car first. You should never run it dead and you should only charge it to 80%. I understand that is giving up even more range. It's a little inconvenient and most people aren't willing to be inconvenienced. I bought a 2012 leaf for $3500usd four years ago, I put 30,000 miles on it in 3 years and lost 5 miles of range. I only charged it at work so the car paid for itself in 3 years with just my gas savings.
I have driven my Chevy Bolt for 6 and 1/2 years. I bought a new 12 volt battery 2 years ago. It sits in my garage connected to a maintenance charger. My original battery still works fine. My Bolt has performed flawlessly and I have saved thousands in gas, oil, smog tests, and maintenance. I will never again buy an ICE vehicle.
My '02 4Runner is still getting the same mileage as on Day 1. And I can charge the gas tank to 100% in about 5 minutes.
Pretends not to wince every time paying for gas, especially for a car that uses a lot of it
Ya TelL the 😮😊Tango!!
@@zht3187gas Hikes Where Done by bidensSin*esterRegime To Push evs... 😂Thinkabout ? iT, & ROSANNE BARR 😂SAYS.... .......
@@zht3187 Gas grows on apple trees and gas production causes close to no pollution other than generating electricity. Or so I've been told :)
@@VolkerHettI thought apples grew on apple trees. Are you running your car on cider ?
just mentioning all those level 1 chargers that operate at 120volt @15amp also run at 240volt at 15 amp. all you need to do is run a 240 20 amp outlet and plug it in. just drill a hole through the basement wall and some underground wire on a GFI breaker . and for those that have a dryer in the garage to bypass an electrician. just get an extension cord made up to charger for your EV from the dryer outlet like some RV that have 240v connections if you are cheap
True. "Y" cables with a plug for the clothes dryer, and a plug for the EV cost about $50 bucks. I used one. No electrician need. Wife cleans and dries clothes during the day , and at night I charge my car. My car will accept 32 amps, but the driers is only 30 amps , so I charge at only 26 amp. A lot better that the 8-12 amp of the 110 vac that charges at a rate of 4 miles per hour.
@@skrywenko6596 yep! Truth!
Shhhh dude. It is obvious that this video and comments do not want ant solutions. All they want is to trash things they do not understant and do not like :D
Actually on tesla's u can access vehicle controls then press software, then hold on the model name for a few seconds. Type "service" in the prompt. This tells you a lot of info about the car just like that scan tool.
Yes, exactly. Scotty doesn't know much about Teslas. He keeps on spreading rumors & speculations.
Unless you need a skeleton key to access it, Scotty and most Scotty fans will not comprehend.
I have had a Tesla X for 8 years and love it more than when it was new. It gets free tech updates and now almost drives itself. Very cool, everyone I meet wants a to ride in it and likes it. It costs me only 10 to fully charge it. I charge it overnight and never have to stop at a gas station.
it's not typically going to cost $3K to setup home charging and it's not like you will be charging from 0 to full very often. So charging time is a non-issue.
Insurance prices is the worst aspect of owning an EV. I hope that gets resolved. Insurance companies are killing us.
I installed my home level 2 charger for just over $100. I don’t even notice the cost of charging on my monthly bill.
Insurance companies know something that the EV mandate overlords don't know or don't care.
Installing a charging station is about $1k average in the US and most people do not need one. I have an hour-long all-highway commute and I use the cable that came with my Model 3 and a $40 adapter to charge off my 220V dryer outlet. Easily recovers me to full, even though I have a long workday, and only costs about $2 a day.
Literally every point Scotty made is false information and he should be ashamed.
@@catbert7 You're lucky to have a 220v near where you park your car. I had to upgrade my panels (old house) but that was something I needed to do anyway. That cost $1500. The EV charger cost me $800 to install.
But the cool thing is never having to go to a gas station again.
Right now EV owners can behave as if they are saving the planet because the mass media are covering up the harm that the EV industry are causing to this planet.
I just ordered a rivian..can't wait
Waiting for the R2 baby!
The software to diagnose and do service on Teslas is called Toolbox, and is a free download. You do need a special cable for the oddball connector under the glovebox.
The stuff about the grid not being able to cope is inaccurate. The whole country will not get EVs overnight. It will take a couple of decades at least, probably 3 to get there. It’s relatively gradual compared to the speed at which the grid can be upgraded and moved to lower carbon sources of power. And you schedule the charge to run at the best time - utilities encourage this by giving you cheaper power at the best time to charge. You don’t need a Level 2 charger, a NEMA 14-50 socket will suffice with the mobile charger; you still get 240V * 40A = 9.6kW; not far from the 48A you can juice from a real level 2 charger on a 60A 240V circuit (11.5kW). RV parks have those sockets, too.
You may encounter some trouble codes which are junk with any vehicle, especially one that doesn’t get over-the-air updates. It’s just software/firmware bugs, but especially if you sit. Get an alert/warning, they’re often harmless.
All good questions to ask and I enjoyed the healthy skepticism in this video, but I think we’re moving towards less and less of this pain over time. Just shop around and get the deal which seems to have the best value for what you need. I normally tell people to make sure the vehicle gets OTA updates and has a long battery warranty: 6+ years. For everything else, go with what suits you.
Also, I installed a wall connector on the other side of my house to my main panel. It was just a matter of running 6/2 (with ground) cable across the house. It’s about $3/foot, more for small quantities. I bought and ran mine myself for my current house, and paid a sparky $80 or so for the connection.
Hi Scotty, the OBD connector on Tesla Model 3 is at the rear, under the vents located in the center console.
Bullsh*t! My wife owns 2019 Model 3 Tesla, zero problems not covered under warranty. I own a 2021 Model Y. Same story. There's soo many reasons it was the best selling car in the world in 2023! Besides being roomier, faster, impossible to steal, and more luxurious than cars of comparable price EVs are also way cheaper to operate. It's simply been the best car I've ever owned (since 1984)! Its paying for itself. Zero maintenance costs in 2.5years -- well, except for new tires after 45k miles. No new brakes. No oil changes. No transmission servicing. No transmission to fail. Those are all real savings. No waiting to pump gas. Everynight I plug in my car, go to bed, and its ready to go. No idea how long it takes to charge... how long does your phone take? who cares?! Its a narrative. I save so much time not standing next to my car for 5-7min pumping gas every week. (that's 6hrs in a year of standing next to your car -- and that's not even the waiting in line at a Costco just to pump gas). Last year I drove ~20k miles resulting in a savings of $4,000 compared to the 2014 Jeep Wrangler I owned before. Same story the year prior. Do the math -- that's about $10k in savings in 2.5years! In 5years I'll have saved enough to replace a battery -- yet its got full warranty for 8yrs! The car is saving me so much it, it will pay for my next $40k car within 10years! Sure, purchase price was more, but with Jeep trade-in to Carvana it'll pay for itself in less than a decade. Total cost of ownership, its a thing!
Do you have relations with it? Goodness, try another mode of transport and enough with the simping on EVs...
@@steveswell1 the truth hurts sometimes, when it just crushes your narrative lol
@@pbm___000 exactly - well said. Thanks for sharing your experience 🙏
@@bjenkin100 Projecting much? Have you even read your narrative? :)
@@steveswell1 no but soon, if not already, he'll be able to have "relations" inside the vehicle while it drives him around independent from his participation
You do NOT need a level 2 charger at your home. Just use a level 3 charger to charge to 80% and then use a level 1 charger to charge from 80-100% overnight. And if you don't drive much you can still get 40-80 miles of charge overnight using a level 1.
It’s nice that there’s a channel that the haters can come to. And it keeps Scotty in business waving his arms around.
This guy is the chicken little of electrification and the LAST source I'd trust for advice when considering an EV. This is nothing more than performance art.
@@tesladura3085 All mechanic's are newbie's at working on electric cars.
@@MyBg59 My cousin went from working for Ford as a mechanic to Tesla. He says the writing is on the wall.
My battery for my 2018 volt is 9k . In 5 years of ownership I will have saved 15k by not buying gas. I have lost no range in 6 years. I only paid 23k . I love it
EXACTLY THANK YOU!!!!!
I have a 2017 Bolt EV. Bought it new December 2017. Still on the original 12v battery. Uh, all cars sold in the us have to have an obd port by law. Teslas all have one. All this crap he’s spouting is old old old FUD. I spent $425 to have a nema 14-50 outlet on a 50amp 240v breaker installed. I drive the car like a normal car. I never even think about range. It’s been dead reliable since I bought it. It paid for and you realize how much I’ve saved in gas, oil and other routine maintenance? A lot.
Can you fix it yourself in case it fails? I have nothing against the EV but they should not be pushed on people but let people decide what is best for them...
What does that matter? I have an 8 year 250,000 mile warranty on my battery? Next excuse? I understand you guys are gas guys. But my Tesla will destroy 95% of anything you build or buy for a fraction of the price. @@solarflare4259
I also have 2017 Bolt, the battery was warranty replaced in 2022. I love this car, AND it has no catalytic converter to get stolen, no emmissions check needed. I will NEVER go back to ICE cars.
That's not a lot of battery degradation for an almost 10 year old car. The i3 only had 81 miles of range to begin with. So if the 70 miles of range works for your driving needs, then just use it the way it is, there's no need to replace the battery (would not make economical sense to do so anyways.)
It would make sense to just get rid of it you mean
True. bUT now see how far it goes when its 10 degrees outside? 20 miles?. yep who dosn't want a car that goes 20 mile range. SIGN ME UP SCOTTY
@@jjohnson8977These cars are perfect for teenagers. Keeps them from going too far.
@@jjohnson8977nope because when you drive it the battery warms up and you gradually unlock the rest of the capacity.
@@NiekNooijens wrong, I'm electrical engineer actually testing batterys
The battery tech isn't ready, period.
Cheap unfounded statement. You have not experience to make that statement. Tesla does quite well. My 2013 Tesla Model S had 93% of it’s original range at 10 years.
@@N4HHEgive it another 4-5yrs. End of day its still a lithium battery. Your near end of life. All it takes is one fail cell. Cost to replacement for battery pack will cost more than the car is worth.
@@anekinoo7 Lol no diff than ICE vehicle esp @ your 14-15yrs. Its ok, no one is trying to persuade you to convert. Choices
Things are indeed stagnant in EV world until the next generation of drastically improved batteries. Toyota is betting on solid-state batteries, which are better in every way theoretically than current tech
@@billthomas8994 problem is they keep providing updates and nothing to show for it
A 10 year gas BMW will have a blown engine....$20,000 later you have a 10 year old BMW with a rebuilt engine. Not much of a difference...
My BMW is 16 years old and on 162k miles. No issues, most of the original parts, great fuel economy and power.
@@paulcliffe8168 I should hope with 162K there would not be a blown engine. Most cars can go over 200k without engine problems but German sports sedans not so much🤣
@@allankoivu3263 genuinely, I've had 8 BMW's. I buy them at 80 or 90k miles, run them to 200k miles. I've never had any serious problems. Always kept up with preventive maintenance. Parts are cheap and plentiful. I can only talk about my personal experience, but they are solid cars.
Tesla doesn't need a tool for diagnostics, use "Service Mode" through the touch screen. Read out any trouble codes. No tools to buy.
And the service manual is online and is updated regularly.
Excellent, because it will be needed very frequently.
@@mikek5298 just out of curiosity, do you have the stats and how much Tesla's are in the shop compared to gas vehicles?
@@pw1187according to break down and repair rates in the UK, teslas are the most reliable car sold in the UK (for major faults)
They are good for 6-8 years, if they are over 12 years old it won't have much range and risk of fire is higher.
@@GF-mf7ml so you have the stats on all of that right?
Especially the fire one
I get that the hv battery replacement cost is high on tesla, however all the money you save from not paying gas should very well pay for that battery replacement and you need to take care of the battery to make sure it doesnt break. Keeping the battery cool and keeping it betweeen 20-80% and not fast charging every single time is a good way to keep the hv battery healthy.
Actually I believe that there is no discernible increase in battery degradation due to level 3 charging, at least according to Tesla's data analysis and other, independent sources.
Scotty is correct on all of these things he mentions but also be aware, technology on electric cars is advancing quickly so when you drive it off the lot it declines in value astronomically. It is because the range of the cars goes up each generation and the charging time goes down. When solid state batteries come on the market in the next 10 years it will make the current crop of electric cars nearly worthless - as they are forecasted to go as much as 600 miles between charges and take as little as 15 minutes to charge if the voltage is high enough (a different problem coming).
That's why you should buy a Toyota or Lexus hybrid. Although it's basically also a electric car, you can still drive on the ICE engine, and if you hybrid battery is dead after twenty years, you can change that old Metal hydroxide battery under the rear seat in your own garage for a Lithium type within two hours. No mechanic needed ! Total costs about €1500,-
scottys hands convince me of everything, im selling my tesla TODAY
A lot is changing in the ev field.
Charging capabilities as well as range has improved dramatically and i would like to say an ev has the least chance of fire out of ice,hybrid and ev.
LOL…….sorry you have very little thought process. People aren’t buying them for too many reasons. They are horrible on the environment and yet brainless get them. SMH woke
truth and reality is not what haters ever want to hear...
True. I see one or two gassers burning every year, they don't seem to make the news
I’m sure the kids at the mines are happy for you
That's selective criticism. Gas vehicles require many resources to manufacture, but also pollute during use. All the minerals used in batteries have other uses too, Cobalt is also used to make airbags in automobiles; catalysts for the petroleum and chemical industries; cemented carbides (also called hardmetals)
The cost to replace a Model Y battery is $9000, parts and labor. But I have a 8 yr/120,000 mile battery/drivetrain warranty. I'm good til 2030. And there are lots of 200,000 mile Teslas out there now still on the original battery. There's even a high mileage Tesla Club now.
...Stop spreading myths and half-truths about EVS.
Outdated talking points
@@joecushman6030 Yes, and becoming more outdated all the time as battery technology and battery management systems improve by leaps and bounds.
haven't met a battery car owner who has considered the end game of sustainable goals agenda 2030 yet, they all just think we're heading for flying cars like the jetsons, reality is you're in a jackpot
Sure, sell it in 2029 and see what it's worth...
@@steveswell1 Used car prices for Teslas are really not that much lower than gas cars. They were much higher in early 2023. But the used car prices for EVs are rising right now, and Tesla just reported a 40% increase in sales of their used cars.
We had an I9, 2017, in 2022 27k miles the battery box modal went bad, 9k repair bmw tried to not cover it it was hell trying to get it fixed for free, had to goto multiple dealerships till i could find a non corrupt one, finally got it for free. sold it immediately and will never touch a bmw again. How can some dealerships say it not covered under warranty and some say it is? My Tesla on the other hand i never had any problems with and it had 60k miles on it. The best thing about an electric cars is zero maintenance and 9 dollar fillups at home as opposed to like a 35 dollar fill ups at a gas station for a civic for instance.
Their ICE cars are know. To flame on as well …
I have a Nissan Leaf 2013 and not that bad I actually save lots of money on gas. I have 4 years with it and gives me 90 kilometers per charge
Scotty, you are hilarious! As someone who works on electric cars, I had a good laugh at this video. You were right about half of your observations but so far off on half.
Can you give us the 50-50 split? Sure would be appreciated to know your counterpoints.
I am an electrical engineer, and Scotty was right on 64.625% of his assessments in this video. On other channels I am a doctor or oceanographer or professional golfer. It's fun to pretend
@@Icarealot88As long as you are not a "expert" i will trust you
65% of statistics are made up.
@@DESHolden Doesn't look like he can 🤔
For as long as I can remember we have had "Friday" cars and complete "Lemons" which, as you say, we should run away from. However, just because we have the same occasional problem with EV's it doesn't mean that all EV's are rubbish, anymore than it meant that all ICE cars were rubbish. The new technology is getting better every year. Batteries last for 10 years or more (with about 10% degradation). A 10 year old ICE car is probably blowing out smoke, has a leaky head gasket etc etc. If you have the ability to charge at home, EV's are well worth considering.
If you’re not ready don’t buy an EV, simple as that. 1 EV in a 2+ car household is a great place to start.
EVs destroy economies and raise CO2 levels.
I just got a Model Y recently and it's like nothing I've had before. It's like 2010 all over again when I first had a smart phone and could never go back to a Nokia.
The reason why Tesla warranty is 4 years is the same as the reason why you upgrade phone every few years. Techs change fairly quickly. Gone are the days when you buy a car and keep it for 10+ years.
LOVE seeing behind the scenes of Scotty’s cellar!
Me too, Scottys is in heaven there in the summer I would imagine.
I do love that Rhode Island place. Must be awesome in the summer near the beach.
There were, undoubtedly, thousands of guys claiming gasoline cars will never replace the horse and buggy. And I'm sure there were tens of thousands of guys saying the telephone was never going to catch on. I'm sure Bing Crosby was warned to stay away from that newfangled radio.
The fact is one dollar of electric energy will carry a car about 6 times further than one dollar of gasoline. Today's electric car technology is still in its infancy so ICE still has the advantage on reliability, and up front costs. But that is slowly changing day-by-day.
WTF did you just say? You honestly think that ELECTRIC is more energy dense than oil? And cheaper?
GFY.
And take physics 101 (pre-woke).
Yes, AFTER, the two times the price of the battery powered car is paid for. Figure in that math, and you will never save money buying an electric car. By the time it's break even, the batteries need to be replaced, and you are back in a deep financial hole!!! Then there are the MANY OTHER, drawbacks such as cold weather, hot weather and range plus the TIME, needed to recharge. How much is an hour and a half of time worth, in terms of price of gas or electricity. Because on a long trip, not really very long, several hours of recharging is needed, but, two stops at a gas station only takes 20 minutes and that's taking a bathroom break, grabbing a drink and slice of pizza or a hot dog.
"one dollar of electric energy will carry a car about 6 times further than one dollar of gasoline." Prove this, and then do the same for one dollar of diesel.
The energy density of gasoline is nearly 100x higher than batteries.
@@davidmoore5225 I would never advise somebody to own an electric car as their only car, but most households have at least two cars. Electric cars are super great for short trips. I wouldn't say I get 6 times the range for a dollar versus gas, but it's easily 4 times. The car it replaced was not large or an SUV, so the mileage was pretty good for a gas powered car. I easily get 6 times the range if compared to a Suburban.
My car came with a level 2 charger, and it cost under a grand to install the 220 line. Granted, the outlet is pretty close to the main panel, but the car manufacturer offered a credit against the cost of installation and the electrician quoted us $1,000 over the credit. The electricians know about the credit, so they overcharge. I declined the credit and used my regular guy. He's not cheap, but he's honest
The car easily charges overnight so I'm not losing any time. If I had to go somewhere that exceeded the range, I would use our other car, so I'm never going to charge it anywhere but at home. One advantage the gets overlooked is the fact that there are very few moving part so there are less things to break and go wrong. I have regenerative braking which is fantastic. On a normal drive I never touch the brake pedal. My brakes will never wear out.
I doubt I'll need to replace the battery while I own the car. I expect that the resale value will take into account the depreciation of the battery but it's not something I'm going to lose sleep over. Nothing is for free, so if you lease an electric car, the depreciation of the battery will be factored into the lease price
I have coffee with a bunch of grumpy old men once a week. Scotty, unfortunately, sounds like them. They dislike anything different. Wind power, battery cars, cars without points, 5000 mile oil changes, solar roof panels, my battery powered weed eater (they really hate that), etc., etc. are all targets of their mis-guided anger. They still bring up issues that were fixed 25 years ago, but it doesn't matter. I am the perfect candidate for a battery car. Retired, drive about 100 miles per week, live in the South in a small country town. I can't wait for the time to buy a new car. The coffee club will go crazy. Thx.
Lol so true. They don’t want any part of some newfangled device that doesn’t make noise.
Cars without points! LOL!!!😂
Sounds like the same logic for the HV batteries apply for getting a new engine for a gas car. You can either buy new and spend a lot, replace the bad parts, or buy a used complete one. The buyer needs to be aware of this inevitability regardless of if it's a gas or electric car. Nothing's changed here.
As for the obd missing on Teslas, there's a service mode that techs can access and how to get into it is accessible on the internet. No need to complain about something you just haven't figured out yet Scotty!
Makes more sense to just replace the whole battery pack instead of picking a bad individual cell over, and over again
I whish to see an electric car that lasts 40 years... Some electronic components within the system will degrade long before that time...It's not just the battery issue.
@@solarflare4259 according to a tear down analysis by Munro, he believes Tesla when they say their drivetrain is engineered to last up to 1,000,000 miles. If the cooling system is properly maintained then the control electronics should also last a very long time.
@@billthomas8994 Thanks for the info. It depends what "electronics class" these EV are built to. Time will tell. For now it's too early to tell...
I'm 62 and I've had my Tesla Model Y for almost 12 months now and for multiple reasons it's my favorite car I've ever owned.
That said, EV's are not practical for people who don't have a home charger and off street parking, or who regularly drive very long distances.
I have the ideal setup- a suburban home with off street parking and large solar panels that meet and even exceed my electricity needs at a much lower price than my horrible local energy company. I charge at home at night. The range on my Model Y Long Range far exceeds my daily needs for local driving but I always charge it up to 80% overnight for the next day. I've now taken it on several longer drives (long for the northeastern US that is) and I find that my bladder fills up before my battery runs out! By the time I've stopped at a rest area, stretched my legs and maybe gotten a snack my car is usually ready, or almost ready to go.
I love how it drives. It's acceleration leaves my former car (an Audi A6) in the dust and makes highway driving, especially merging onto the highway, much safer IMO.
No problems with the car so far. No oil changes or regular maintenance- just fill up the wiper fluid and rotate the tires.
I oppose heavy-handed government mandates outlawing gas powered vehicles. If EV's are good enough people will buy them. If they're not, don't mandate them!
Again, people should know what they're getting into- EV's are not practical for everyone at this time. But they are light years ahead of where they used to be and I have no desire to go back to an ICE car ever again.
I have a foolproof way to charge my pickup, I go put gas in it, works every time
I wake up every morning with a full battery, works every time.
@@SlingShotKid007unless you forget to plug it in or your circuit breaker trips and you’re stuck walking to work
I hope you only fill your tank to 80%. Don't drive below 30%. You could ruin your fuel tank's capacity.🤣 That would be crazy. Evs are ridiculous.
My EV takes 10 seconds to fill up. Five seconds to plug in at the end of the day and five seconds to unplug in the morning.
@@billthomas8994 keep telling yourself that bub the novelty wears off soon
What do you mean battery is good for 3-4 years? Mine has 5 years and still in good shape
If you use a Penn Manufacturer 12 volt battery made in America, we have had some last 11 years in our tractors & in the trucks 8 to 10 years.
My motorhome on the cutaway Ford chassis has a Ford dealer installed battery by the previous owner. Purchased used eight years ago so the battery is at least eight years old. A good lead acid battery can last a decade or more if properly maintained.
Don't listen to him. He is full of crap.
He neglected to mention there is a minimum 8 year warranty on batteries by federal law so even if it did, the companies would have to replace it for free.
Lot of people love to talk abut big pharma but completely ignore the size and impact of big oil.
Level 2 charger is not necessary. Happy with my level 1.
Scotty.
Tap the Tesla logo for 10 seconds on the service screen. Type in "service" press enter.
Then throw that back rippoff box with all its adapters in the bin.
I love this guy! He tells it like it is! But I don't think he could talk without his arms! He's great! Thank you for your thorough explanations about all aspects of the vehicles you are reviews.
That BMW was one of the first electric cars made. It was an experiment. The temperature management has come a long way. Batteries are much better now. People put 250,00+ miles on Teslas that still have 75% of their original range. LFP batteries can last 600,000 miles or more.
2015 BMW I3 Rex, battery seems to be going great, I suspect they have a conservative but excellent battery management system
I used 110 charging for my Model Y for a year without a problem when my level 2 cable got damaged. I drive around 20 to 30 miles a day. You can easily charge overnight. Now if you're driving more than that a day it's going to be an issue. I got the L2 charger when I had a small range EV. Definitely needed it then if I wanted go out to dinner or run to the store after work. And if you only have 110 and you go on a long trip, stop at a super charger before you go home. I agree the battery replacement is an issue if it has to be done out of warranty. And I'd avoid EV's if I couldn't charge at home.
Depends if you are a long commuter. I will likely be driving 90 miles a day soon which isn't unusual for people in my area if not more. Really depends on lifestyle. But the longer the commute, the more you save in gas when transferring to EV.
Buy a Tesla. I’ve had mine for 2 years with no issue. All other manufacturers are still figuring out how to make them
Love my Tesla. I’ll be driving it for at least 10 years and loving it.
The voltage imbalance in a 9 year old i3 that hasn't been fastcharged everyday has a voltage imbalance of maybe 10-14mV. At 70 miles range, the car has almost no degradation whatsoever since it was new.
A level 2 charger isn't that complicated to put up.
Ev battery warranty is 8yr 100k miles minimum. Also, ive driven 30k miles on 400 dollars worth of electricity
Wait until you see how short a distance you can drive in the last couple of years of battery life.
Really? The stick shift on my flying unicorn got stuck so I might have to look into getting one of these Ev batteries.
Anyone else amazed at finally seeing scottys studio lol
Yes.. it is nice surprise to see the studio from another angle 😊
The ROI in that studio is INSANE!
@@dieterhauer8619 Millions of dollars. I wonder if he’d let us send him some upgrades to his setup..
The purchase of an electric car is a financial nightmare!
The novelty will be a decade of cars in flames, knock off parts flooding the market and insurance company's raising insurance for EVs
Why?
BMW gas or electric will cost $ timing belt quote for my x1 $5 k. So it’s all the same with a 10 year old car it’s fix it or scrap it.
@@badugiboybimmer9232it's far from the same, especially if it catches fire.
@@smashtoad Yes, those gas cars catch fire a lot. One-hundred times more often than electric vehicles. Stay away from 'em!
Thank you Scotty, fascinating as always.
I'm 50 I have a 1979 Camaro. Sat ten years started right up.i would like to know if you park an electric car that long
Then you had to replace all of the hoses, rebuild the engine, replace all of the fluids, and replace the rotted exhaust system. 😂
Your story is about as real as Joe Biden's 6 golf handicap.
Fun to watch Derek of Vice Grip Garage go to old abandoned vehicles and manage to get most of them running with a lot of blood sweat and tears…and cold snacks. At the end of the day and with very few exceptions he’s just polishing a turd. He knows this too, but it’s still fun to watch.
People buy unreliable gas cars all the time. Usually the people who buy them new, wont have them past 100k when batterries become a issue.
I agree. new cars have many issues. 100k does seem to be the life span of these newer cars. My daily driver is a 1966 Riviera GS mz code 425 nailhead. all power with super cold AC. I use a optima battery ($300) that I change about every 4 years. rides super smooth like if I'm an a cloud. every year that goes by my car increases in value while these new craps dramatically go down in value.
@@ronperez784 Now....about the centuries long pollution emitted by your vehicles and how dangerous it is for you, passengers, and other vehicles with its lack of safety features.
@@markschaffer480 Don't hate.
@@ronperez784 Are you in favor of the dangerous climate disruption brought by the burning of fossil fuels?
@@markschaffer480 troll someone else. if you reply to this, you're a troll and everyone here will see. vroom vroom
We bought a 2023 Chevy Bolt for just under 30k. Got a $7500 tax credit so we ended up paying just under 22k. I installed the outlet for the level two charger (the car came with it) in the garage myself in under 15 minutes and less than fifty bucks. It charges at a rate of 26 miles of range per hour. The battery has an 8 year warranty. This is our second EV in the family and none have had any problems. If you are smart enough to do the math on what it costs to charge you will see that we are saving huge amounts not having to purchase gas and maintenance. We also own an eleven year old Prius and a fourteen year old Camry hybrid that we were warned about all the cost of replacing the batteries. Still going strong on the factory batteries. Sorry Scotty but I think you need some education.
It works for some people,no doubt about it. I don’t think it works for the majority though.
What do you think your n=1 proves? 🤡
The EV tax credit is disgusting. Wait until a per-mile tax is implemented on EVs. Getting free money and not paying 55 cents/gallon tax to maintain roads is coming to an end soon.
@@Icarealot88 already priced in by many states that implement higher registration fees for EVs
@@Mikgwerd I was talking about VMT. It's coming, don't worry.
I drive a 2022 Polestar 2 with 26k miles. Range dropped from 220 miles to 210 since I leased it. Depending on where you live, electricity can be a huge savings. I save over $300/mo in fuel costs compared to the V6 I used to drive. Charging at home is great, but the Electrify America chargers are junk. I routinely find less than half the chargers work at the stations I visit. They are also extremely expensive. IMO the car is great, but the charging network is absolutely terrible. Undecided on whether I will buy the vehicle when the lease ends soon.
Public charging is going to be a problem for a long time.
@@SheldonKreger I will be honest, I don't use the charging network unless I ABSOLUTELY have to. But the convenience in an EV is the cheapness and convenience of just charging at home. Idk, for me I will never go back to an ICE car, but its nice seeing someone that's actually tried an EV that genuinely gives it a shot if you don't keep it.
@@DS9FANINDADEFIANT I got a G6, never going back to ice, it's so much cheaper to run and smooth quiet faster and with AI tech inside.
it's a good thing we have 3-phase 420V power in every house in Europe. It takes 10 hours to charge 100kWh battery
I think a lot of people could get by just fine using only Level 1 charging for their EV. Unless you have an unusually long daily commute, on most days, you would not likely use up all the range you got simply by Level 1 charging each night. On the days you did use more, you could "catch back up" on the other days. Once in a while, if you had done a long trip, you may need to use a public charger. All this is based on my experience with my Honda Clarity, which gives me about 75 km/day of range from Level 1 charging. I go months without ever using any gas.
The idea of leasing an EV may be a good one but not really for the reasons Scotty gave. The main reason is that EVs are improving so quickly that you may not be satisfied with your EV that gets 500 km range in a few years when other EVs that get 1000 km range will be available.
Works for me. Set the charger to charge after 10 PM as the grid is mostly on base load and the energy would otherwise be wasted.
Haha someone on the last video called it, saying this would be the next video 😆
the problem with the media on the web is that the algorithm filters and routes this information to a specific group of people not to the young naive people. The 18-30 year olds are the ones that get scammed ripped off the most.
I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. Thankfully you aren’t responsible for false claims lol😂
I've owned an electric car since 2017 (non-Tesla) and never had a need for a level 2 charger. I drive an average of 40 miles a day and my level 1 charger plugged into a standard 115v 20-amp outlet has no problem charging my EV overnight. When I occasionally do go more than 40 miles, say 200 miles, even though it does not charge fully over night, I still have plenty of charge to go where I want to in the morning and it charges up fully after 2 days, no problem. If I feel I will not have enough charge in the morning, I can always go to a DC charger and charge up quickly for 15 minutes and then complete the charging at home. After 7 years, I have never had the need to do that. I have gone on long road trips 3 times with no problem. Oh, and there has been no noticeable degradation of range.
1990 Honda CRX and youre good to go
Scotty that battery tester box does not work. There is 100% no way to test additional life span of any battery even a new battery. That is a fact. 2 days 5 years that tester has no way of knowing
That's just what I've heard elsewhere. Hopefully others will comment.
@@chrisstradling2535its true. You CAN test the cells individually, but you can only average the amperage between multiple cells in a series/paralel configuration. Testing cell by cell - true
Testing a bank - false
@@MrDmadness Thanks, that makes sense!
I love my 2014 cadillac ELR. It's essentially a gen 1 Chevy volt. It's a PHEV. I can get to and from work on electric, and for longer trips, it uses gas.
Wait til you have to replace the battery.
Very cool, one of the best looking Cadillacs ever
@maicoman1096 it will be a while yet before I have to. I plan on replacing it next year anyway. I'm getting a 4k tax rebate for buying it and that pays for half of the cost. And if I didn't want to replace it after the range is no longer there, I could just run it on gas. It's better than a pure electric vehicle in this regard.
I have a friend from canada that used to be an Engineer for Ford. He said electric cars in Canada leave people stranded all the time. especially during the winter. Its not worth the money you pay for them. unless you use it as a local car.
The older Li batteries do not perform well in the cold. The batteries being used today can go to -20F without loss.
Ohhhhh nooooo quick someone tell them in Norway 🤔..............🤣😂🤣
Fords have always been leaving people stranded Electric is no different and I have never seen an electric Ford broken down here in Canada.
@@davefitzpatrick4841Percentage of people using g cars in Norway is less. Plus their population is cloistered more in large cities and their public transport is better.
@@henrylicious the average commute in the USA is 42 miles a day, most modern EVs can do 250-300 miles even in winter , frankly the argument is a none starter .
BYD Blade Battery last from 40 years to 100 years depending on use.
After watching you for 12 minutes, I'm exhausted...but in a good way 😅. I really love your presentations! Thanks
My 2013 model S has 181,000 miles. It’s on its original battery. Don’t let these guys scare you away. My car has been flawless. Talk to areal owner. I got some videos on my channel about my journey.
It’s good to have a balanced viewpoint from both sides. That’s great you’ve had a good run on your model S obviously not every electric car is going to be giving problems and many people and owners will have great experiences. However there are two sides to every coin and certainly some electric models have had lots of problems including battery failures Just as some hydrocarbon cars that were new to the market were the same so one experience with one car is not to be discounted but certainly it is not representative necessarily of 1 million cars million experiences and 10 different brands
Your journey to the mental ward. 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Every time I see someone driving a Tesla I think more money than brains
@@barackblows1942 who’s you comment Directed at and what does it mean? It’s too cryptic for me
I have a five year old model 3 p. Scott keeps telling me my car sucks and it keeps winning races with porches driving itself and not going to the shop. He just hates electric cars. I wish he would live with one since he is so off base with my experience.
Electrification would have been a great opportunity to implement a battery standard for modules, but out of corporate greed every manufacturer has to sell you his own overpriced soup.
Tesla is now not overprized. Their basic Model 3+, and Model Y sale price is thousands lower than a "comparable" ICE car. Model 3 can be have for $32K
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan That's a lot more than I paid for my Sonata last week.
@@robertkubrick3738 How much is a new Sonata?
@@Simon-dm8zv I paid $29,180 tax included, drive away.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan You mean 32K AFTER you pick the taxpayers pocket to the tune of $7,000.
Teslas use a 16v lithium ion battery instead of a 12v lead acid. Its very small too.
Another BAD design, with a single point of failure.Well at least that Lithium battery does not have a known and fatal documented history.
newer ones, yes
Only newer Tesla's. Keep an A23 battery in your tow hook cover.
Lithium ion batteries have a better low temperature performance.
@@allangibson8494do you mean vs flooded less acid. As long as charged lead acid is good as low as -50° c
It is not a bigger battery, it is a large collection of batteries comprising a battery pack. The number of batteries, their composition and chemical content can vary wildly. Also the battery management can differ greatly. Some are active cooled, some are passive cooled. Whatever the state of the car, the battery pack is always extremely valuable - even if it has degraded over time. If you prefer, you can always stick to Internal combustion engine vehicles. As we all know, they never need replacement disks or brakes or exhaust systems or sensors or spark plugs or injectors or serpentine belts or cam belts or water pumps or fuel pumps or filters or endless litres of oil or clutches or gearboxes or 12v batteries or complicated engine management units.
Some of these level 2 chargers require 80amps. Many older houses only have 100amp service. Even newer houses with 200amp service could have problems if you already have a tankless water heater, electric heating, or some other item that draw a lot of power.
I’d pay money to see Scotty debate Jenifer Granholm, the low energy Energy Secretary
The DC to DC inverter charges the 12 volt battery.
New cars are too complex.
Buy used.
True but the less complicated cars won't last forever.
Always the most cost effective path if you shop wise
And with hardly any privacy whatsoever.
Some good info here, but mixed in with some Tesla hate that's completely unwarranted. Teslas actually have all of the OBD diagnostics built in to their computer. You can tap the screen, enter a universal code, and then test your own battery cells. This removes the need to waste money on some diagnostic third party computer.