The TRUTH about LYING on your resume..(Part 2)|
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Damn it, I got a new job but I was an idiot and was honest about what my previous salary was 😭😭 and the result was the new job gave me a low ball salary but I took it cause I was desperate.. lesson learnt, will inflate my job title/salary next time 😩
This is what you say - 'I'd like to stay somewhere close to what I'm at' and then.. tell them 'where you're at' and make it 30k higher than what you actually make. That way it doesn't seem like you're asking for a raise, yet you still get one. This is known as finesse.
@@JoshuaFluke1 yo josh you looking buff asf ngl your shoulders are massive
I raised my hourly rate for my current employer by 60% by lying about what my previous employer was offering for my salary. Honesty is not the best policy.
What would you do if they ask you for a salary slip?
@@salomiminz1944 they can't ask for that.
Is that lying ? Yes
Does it matter ? No
Does your employer care about you ? No
Should you care about them ? No.
It's just a job.
Does it matter: absolutely
People who make big lies on resumes should be thrown in jail
@@The_Jumpman Does it truly matter: Only if it was for a high risk job like anything in; law enforcement, military, medical, and most branches of government save for all politicians and senators.
My question is this - If you "big lie" on a resume for a small time entry level job, what would be the conviction you would receive if you were to be "thrown in jail"?
@@UDAK19 when I say “lie” I mean for example you say you have a bachelor degree when you don’t. Or you said you worked at Apple for 2 years when you never even worked there. It’s not fair to the people who actually tried and did all the hard work, just because they can do the job doesn’t mean they deserve it. I am sure a lot of people can do well in Harvard, but only the people who were in the top 3% go, not because they are the only ones who can handle the work load but they deserve the opportunity the most.
If someone lied and said their salary from their previous job was 5 dollars/hour more than it actually was then that is bad but no, I don’t think they should be thrown in jail. Remember if everyone starts lying, the competition will get out of control and basically the best liars will get the job, not the best workers
@@The_Jumpman And that is not the case now? I can think of far too many people who seem to fail upwards.
Im not saying its right, good or fair. It just is the case more often than not, and your only handicapping yourself by not using all tricks available to you. Win or dont.
Also the level of lying you described with experience is indeed a bad thing but the part with the pay is not, thats just price negotiating.
"It's just a job" is the kind of attitude that often leads to working in low end jobs for a long time.
Hired on as a subordinate but did 80% of my bosses job🤔. So guess what position’s going in my resume🤨👍😉
Boss
Yesirrrrr
:D:D:D
CEO?
Love it!!! 😁
I think one of the best quotes is ... “If companies can lie about how awesome the job is, then the least we can do as applicants is lie about how qualified we are to do it.”
It's like poker when you bluff!
Twice I’ve been lied to about why a job opened up for two jobs I ultimately took. One didn’t even complete the background check before I began they were so desperate and it was chaos beginning day 1.
It truly is
Like, I feel that should be tattooed on xD
that's awesome. excellent quote. thanks!
honesty is not the best policy... "oh you're unemployed? I see no reason to hire you then"
i found that out when i was interviewing. i even reapplied to same employer and told them second time im employed and they even offered me a job. they ghosted when i told them i was laidoff.
Cold hearted and cruel.
@@youngmarriage5717 just the nature of game i suppose. anyone who tells you to be honest is a fool or who has had it too easy.
@@asadb1990 😂😂😂😂
This is completely true! I learned the hard way
There's a great story about my 4th great grandfather where he was looking to get a job in order to move halfway across the country. He found a job opening making trunks. The only problem was that he had no idea how to make one so he told the guy "I know how to make a trunk but I'm curious how _you_ make them". And then he just did exactly what the guy showed him.
That's genius lol
Your grandpa sounds like a wise man
Hahaha Oh man That is an amazing way to say I don't know something without issues.
He was a genius lol
Einstein got nothing on your grandfather lol
Employer: Cheats
Me: Does the same
Employer: *surpriced pikachu face*
lol
I know some people in top end jobs and everyone of them has told me they lied to get them, because the requirements are basically impossible. I saw a job afew months back asking for 10 years experience in a product that was only 4 years old.
this made me laugh so hard; Thank you!
@@Max-lf3tx A job listing wanting something like 10 years experience with Node.js got back to the guy who created Node.js and he was like "well I suppose technically I had thought of writing it at that point, so I suppose I have that.
@@Max-lf3tx lmao that’s too funny these mfs just ask for anything
Lie about everything. They won't check and if they do you don't lose out on anything. Play dirty.
This
I recall many a time that recruiter didn't really look at the CV ( UK for Resume). Once a recruiter told me that I didn't have a degree but I told told them that its on page 3.
In the end of the day they are human and human would try and find ways to "cut corners".
I'd usually just be upfront right then and there if they found out. I'd never lie about Title I actually worked or description, only the time I worked there since they are still hard on job gaps and judge experience harshly.
They don’t even read the entire CV to be honest hence it’s important to put their open position as your title to get ahead of everyone & No, many of them don’t do background checks, I work in HR so I know this. All that “background check..” bla bla is just for formality
Saw a job posting that claimed the salary was 80k a year. Drove an hour away in a storm because it seemed like a good opportunity but then they said it was 40k was the best they could do lol.
Shame
welp...
Shit I remember I applied to this Amazon job. It was advertised as $18.25 for a 4am shift and that's what I applied for, but when I finally got the job offer it said $15.25. I know its not as much as that lol, but still
I had a job that said the position was a manager position but then they changed it to entry level for the interview. Yeah I noped out of that.
I interviewed for a junior dev position once. By the time I reached the final interview, it had "changed" to customer support. I turned them down and left.
They say "If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying". You will only get ahead in life if you bend the rules and do whatever it takes to get that job.
forget bending rules. do and say whatever takes to get the job. if the employer is good they will train you in the work. if they are horrible, they will throw you head first into work and you learn while surviving. and if they let you go, next job you will be better trained for regardless.
@@asadb1990 Very true. If they are a good employer it should be clear what you need to learn and you can cram material every night for the first few months. If they are bad and you are constantly just trying to survive without any training or direction then you at least learned for a month or two before being let go.
@@nopedefinitelynotnahthatsnotme yeah thats the way i look at jobs. you keep working 40h per week. if they let you go, you move on. im never going to work long for a job that may not be there the next day or even at the end of day. my last employer litterally made me work through lunch to let me go right after the day was done.
The fact that approx. 1 in 4 CEO's is a psychopath, and that millions of middle managers are narcissistic pricks, you speak truth
Lie. Lie, lie, lie. So long as you can actually do the job, it's fine.I have bent the truth and outright lied to get every job I've ever had. All that matters is the work you do. Put yourself first.
Have you lied about having a degree?
@@storyjoy143 tbh most employers will never check.
@@asadb1990 Exactly! I have never even had anyone check my to see if I actually had a high school diploma!
@@asadb1990 how so? I’m just confused because if the employer doesn’t a background check they will see you didn’t actually get that degree or do most employers only check for criminal records??
@@alm5257 well criminal records are most likely checked. but most employers will only check references if you say you don't work there. but if you do that chances are you will pushed to the bottom of the pile.
This reminds me of when I took a class that helped with resume writing, and the professor told us upfront that if we didn't have any job experience, we should put any major class projects in the experience section and make it look as good as a real job. I'm pretty sure it's because of him that I got a high-paying job with 0 job or internship experience, what a legend.
THAT IS SO TRUE! I met with a career catalyst for free that our college provided for a brief time, and I told her I had no prior experience whatsoever and she told me to put my projects as experiences as well. Since I'm in Accounting, she told me to add my full accounting cycle project so on and so fort. AMAZING ADVICE! I left that one hour session feeling extremely confident about myself.
Did you tell them that was projects in the interview? Or continued as if it’s real work experience? How did you go through employment verification?
@@jcpark1125did you get a job after that and also how was the interview ifso yk
"Job gaps? Oh let's continue that trend"
I would not be surprised if an employer actually said this at some point...
@Joe dIRT how old are you currently?
@Joe dIRT did it work?
Wicked 😂 but yeah, totally possible
@Joe dIRT Yes, I do and it's great advice. In the job gap period I took some online courses on coursera and EdX too so I hope it'll further the "character development" , "personal growth" narrative lol Thanks for the reply
@Joe dIRT curious....what field?
You don't have to lie on your resume when you're the CEO of LinkedIn, brah.
It is as another UA-camr says: "A resume is a not confession."
Honesty is seen as weakness, a vulnerability that can be used against you.
FACTS!!
BINGO! Because honestly means that you are likely to be the one to report their misdeeds to the appropriate federal regulatory agency.
Honesty is a virtue, but not everyone deserves my honesty.
@@Patrick-857 Honesty is a virtue that only a few had the balls to have.
@@kanayanfantv They are locked into a cage of their own making. Afraid to lose what they have. It's amazing the power you attain when you realise none of it matters.
“If someone offers you an amazing opportunity and you’re not sure you can do it, say yes - then learn how to do it later” - Richard Branson
Amazing video as always 🙌🔥🔥
There's probably a UA-cam video on how to do it 20 different ways.
I got a developer job offer for 30 an hour for my first job and I was super nervous that I wasn’t able to do it and I think it caused me to lose the offer. I haven’t hear back despite emailing a few times.
I was able to join a collaborative coding project despite not ever coding in my life at that point
@@gigachadgaming1551that seems impossible
@aleksandrsglance1115 that is a good one !!! I’ll save this quote 🤝
One of my favorite tips you give is to not include unemployment breaks
Yeah I just straight up lied about gap because I was depressed and sucidal. Companies don't need to know that information
Amen. None of their business.
yeah don't show gaps even old ones. during covid i was looking for work. and when i said i was laid off, they ended the interview fairly quick and ghosted me. when i said i was gainfully employed, they were far more entertaining. and some even offered me a job. so yeah no way im gonna be honest again about job gap.
Agreed, haven’t included job gaps in a decade and haven’t been involuntarily unemployed a single day.
It’s fine to have unemployment gaps just don’t don’t bring it up. Sometimes they miss it. If so say something the least negative like you’re financially independent and wanted to develop other skills, take care of family etc.
I worked in HR, and I approve this message!
if you say that you still working at your last job. when do you bring up the last date of employment with them? right before the background check?
@@jacechan5499 If the manager is calling for verification, you give a friends number. I do not know if there is a such a thing where employers can check your actual employment status in the U.S, since I am from Europe. Here it is not public for the employers.
@@aronbijl4109 oh they can hire 3rd party company and check. they can check your tax stats and found out that way too
@@jacechan5499 That is a long effort. I think it depends on the position if it is important or not, but yeah, you are right.
@@jacechan5499 wtf they can’t check your tax stats lol
I've started to use your advice a couple of weeks ago and I've started seeing an uptick in interest. I'm horribly guilty of Honest Abe syndrome and it's hurt me many times as they get some sort of preconceived judgement that doesn't reflect reality. It's not till I speak to someone that it makes sense. So I'm going to further make my personal advertisement (resume) slicker
honest pratt syndrome
Just remember the outgoing President lied about his accomplishments and wealth (and building a wall) to get the job and the incoming President loves plagiarism and lied about everything else too... so if it’s good enough for the President then why not you?
@@bobafruti cringe
@@bobafruti I voted for Trump. But he was a terrible man. He hired carpenters to work on the TAJ Mahal in Atlantic city and then would not pay them afer the job was done, offering them 30% of what was owed or daring them to take him to court. In the end they would settle for 50%. Always with hardball dishonest business tactics. In the end the Ahole, the liar, the ruthless always wins.
@@andrewj4426
At least he hasn't killed anyone. The DNC has a large body count, much of it oddly connected to the Clinton Dynasty.
I'm seriously sick of these companies so this doesn't bother me one bit
Something I think that's worth mentioning, is that even though it says "requirements", it's really more like a wishlist, a wishlist of what the hiring manager at that time thinks is the perfect candidate, and as with wishes, they change.
Sometimes easily, but especially with motivation from an interview.
I was able to help write the job req and do interviews to replace an old team lead. I was shocked at what HT made “requirements”. DVD authoring, for example. My old TL said he only had to do that twice in the 4-5 years he was there. It was ridiculous.
So they can H1B visa it.
A friend recently posted a library job, masters degree required, $15 and change in Seattle, where $15 is minimum wage.
Be very flexible with what is considered a "requirement".
Degree, f777 that. I have a degree in common sense, and I'll bit it against any of the moronic doctorates I've seen stumble through life. But something like "needs 2 years LaCerte and a CPA license", yeah that's probably non-negotiable, unless they're just a moronic company that asks for requirements that will never be used for the job.
I told some astonishing lies on my CV, like that I managed budgets, managed people and was responsible for managing 3rd parties. I am in my new role and doing super well as a result and earning ~£7,500 more than the "honest" people!
No bootcamp could ever hope to drop this kind of wisdom. Thanks for all you do, Josh.
Its because this mentality is considered "unethical" but lets see how far someone get being honest..
the secret for job gap is to put a company that went out of business within the last 3-6months.
This is pretty clever
Not necessarily depends on the thoroughness of the background check. Source: I did exactly that and it showed up on my background check as a "discrepancy but the interview team didn't even mention it and I still got the job.
@@TheFlyingPLiner that discrepancy worked in your favor, company's wants us to lie, that's what they will get then
@@TheFlyingPLiner if you tried to lie and cover up the unemployment date(job gap of last job). when do you bring up the actual date of the last job? wait until the background check then explain or right before?
@@jacechan5499 They never asked. It simply said "discrepancy" on my copy of the background check wrt that employer. It didn't go into details about what the supposed discrepancy was and my interview team never asked me. I figure if your qualifications are good enough they aren't worried about some basic bs.
I had a client tell me that internships don't count as experience. I asked then what's the fucking point of an internship? Besides, you know, slavery.
Yea duh. Several software engineering positions in California do not take internships as experience
What was their answer?
@@lisar915r9 it's an extension of education, not "professional experience". Even though I had someone who worked on the company's core product that sell "professionally" while being an intern.
I drove 2 hours to a job interview that they refuse to do over the phone. There's an accident on the way that block traffic and it took me over 4 hours. By the time I arrive, no one was there. I waited another hour till someone acknowledge me and interview me. They made me even take a written exam and when I was done, the person who gave me the exam was gone. I had to turn it to some random person. I didn't get the job but it made me realize how cruel and disrespectful some employers can be. I eventually got a decent job but I was young an desperate for any opportunity.
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True story: I was hired for a job & when I showed up 2 wks later, my boss and job description had completely changed. Horrible situation, but I really needed this job (single mom); I quit after 6 wks of crying every night driving home. Can’t even put it on my resume.
Another time, I questioned something my employer asked me to do that I knew was immoral at best, and likely illegal; 3 days later I got fired. Tried a whistleblower lawsuit, but they outspent me to the point I had to drop it.
One time my boss made me stock heavy boxes and I through my back out and now have a torn disc- when I asked why they couldn’t get the big, strong men in the office to do it, boss replied read your job description - we can ask you to do anything, or you can leave. I left. AND, this guy (married) later slid into my DMs flirting with me. Whattt?!
There’s more!
I’ve worked in more toxic environments than I care to share. American Employers suck!
Some good tips in this vid but just remember, if you’re gonna embellish, make sure you can back it up; they’ll hold it over you if you don’t perform and use as a reason to fire without severance.
Be careful about not putting a job on your resume. A background check can reveal the job. My wife actually lost a job because she didn't put a job she had for 30 days on her resume.
Unfortunately none of that is unique.
Fun story about how internships, job titles and such are complete bullshit.
I used to work at one of the largest software companies in the world, we got college interns every year. We'd train them, give them simple starter projects because they didn't have enough time to learn the codebase, and generally mentor them. Most interns got offers for full time jobs after graduation, which was great. Until they started hiring the interns on to senior positions instead of promoting people. So we spend months teaching these people how to walk, and then a couple months later that same person is basically our boss, while our actual boss tells us our performance just wasn't "consistent" enough to warrant a promotion.
Are you fucking kidding me?
The idea that you're a bad person if you aren't a paragon of virtue while dealing with this is absurd. You can't _lie_ to a company whose only goal is to work you to death, that would be unethical! If you really believe that, you need to grow up. If you don't look out for you, nobody else will.
If you want honesty and hard work, then you have to reward honesty and hard work. But they don't, so we get to live in the movie Office Space. That movie, by the way, was based on Mike Judge's actual experiences as a software engineer. Milton was based on a real person. That movie isn't parody, it's _reality_.
Doing this on Linked In got a recruiter to reach out to me and got me my current job without even having to apply to it myself for double the pay of my previous job in the same role. You HAVE to do this these days. If you don't you're bringing a knife to a gun fight.
How do you avoid previous colleagues or employers seeing that you stated wrong facts on LinkedIn?
@@justmario I wouldn't encourage just flat out lying about facts, but extending a time range or something smaller like that and including extra things you did like he's stating here can help. That being said. You just don't add them on Linked In if they are trying to hurt you and not help you. Its all about networking, not being a Karen.
Companies don't owe you anything and you don't owe them anything. Know your worth and never devalue yourself or you will only suffer. That's what I learned in my short corporate life.
ALL employers are looking to fill their positions with the 'ideal, risk-free candidate.' Therefore, DO NOT ever put anything on your resume that might convey anything other than YOU are the ideal, risk-free candidate.
No the ideal candidate should always get the job. That's a you problem
@@The_Jumpman the ideal candidate you're looking for is never going to work for you at the rate you want to pay them. Companies want an ideal candidate who they can pay like an intern. It doesn't work like that in the real world. You get what you pay for.
@@TheodoreChin-ih7xz True.
The last interview I had for a internal transfer, their posting only stated high school diploma as minimum requirement. No degree or prefred certifications was stated, no experience was required.
They were interested in my application because of my major and assumed that I was already in the degree program. I let them know that I am completing my prerequisite for my intended major then they told me that I will be capped off from certain equipment due to my undergrad entry level of experience (duh).
I didn't want to b.s. the lab due to CLIA complexity test regulation.
I didn't get the job, but the kicker is my company stated job postings will have "bachelor degree needed" as a requirement if the base pay is above $20, even if the job required little specialization skills. I don't know if that department recruiter had gotten the memo when making their posting.
The fact that they wanted me for the degree and mentioning advance equipment and complex procedures that were not mentioned in the application let me know they try to see if they can get me to do graduate/more work within my shift for entry level pay.
@@The_Jumpman Managed to perform better than 90% of the candidates in one of my last interviews, I did well on the last phase of this interview and guess what :)
I didn't get the job. F off, I have to put food on the table... I will start lying because this sh1t is absurd
@@angelg3642 Skill issue. Also no cares about you, there also people that need to put food on the table besides you. Every action has consequences, and lying on a resume should have consequences, depending on the severity of the lie.
Let me tell you all something very real. All you have to do is act like you know what you're doing. If you act and exude the confidence like you know what you're doing, they will believe you know what you're doing, even if you're not 100%. This goes for almost anything in life, not just employment... believe it.
No. I very much see through it. Plenty of yall don't know what you're doing and it shows.
I'm not a boss. I'm the guy sitting across who has to deal with ur sht output.
Let's take ur logic further.
"Hey guys, if u steal, u probably get away with it. All u have to do is do it and don't let anyone know"
I swear folks think they've cracked the code that others havent. No u just lack the integrity others have.
I'm learning that there are a growing mass of unqualified folks out there who have convinced themselves that intentionally deceiving their peers is justified. While simultaneously blaming the man upstairs for being deceitful.
I had hoped yall were a minority. And that some folks were just genuinely stumbling by accident. But yall are just blatantly and proudly out here en masse
@@dZorroIII Good luck with that. People are fooling you every day.
@@dZorroIII Integrity only matters if people care. Many people dont. I find having food, money, and a place with temperature control are important whether people care or not. So I focus on that instead.
@@dZorroIII Sorry, you very much don't see through it.
@@moltenmath Yeah, he does. Ever hear the saying, “Fake It ‘Til You Make It” ? So has everyone else, especially employers, interviewers and HR.
Thank you, I needed this. I was being too honest and wide eye. I spent over a month looking for a job with no luck . I'm editing my resume right now and giving myself a better chance
I found a job. A better paying one too. Thank you Joshua; honesty is not always the best policy
Can i lie about job experience? Cause i don't have any
@@ghaidhadi2237 The point of this video is "in the resume', yes". A little. Then be honest during the interview. Just make sure to embellish your experience as much as you can. "oh, i did this that is very similar to the job. I also always really liked this sector, so i know a lot about it." Just walk the fine line between lying and raising yuor chances
@@ghaidhadi2237 YES. You can use your projects as experience.
Is it a good idea to lie about degrees or masters?
@@1mol831 probably not. Think about hard far you can push the truth
Took me 20 years to learn this anyone out there getting started listen to this man no one is going to give you this kind of gold. Also “other duties as assigned” did you ever get “additional benefits when requested?” Hell no
I’m not saying I haven’t lied on my resume, and I’m not saying I haven’t lied in an interview. And I’m also not saying it’s been beneficial for me to do so and landed me a job I really liked. But I just thought I’d come and comment here. 👍🏻
😂 you are well trained
man of culture
A friend lied on her resume and now she holds a managerial position at the age of 25.
I'm not saying you say alot.
I'm also not saying that you didn't say anything.
Now you're set to either, work in the court, or stand in court.
And wait for your lawyer
I have lied on my resume a lot. About the length of my employment in some jobs, the times I was unemployed, my certificates, duties, responsibilities, and my salary. I added all the 3 years of college as work experience in the field I was studying for(it wasn't entirely a lie, the degree involved a lot of on-the-job training). No one has ever questioned me, tested me, or done a background check. I probably wouldn't have gotten my current job and the salary I asked, had I not extended my experience in the field.
You must be working for small companies. Be careful if you go to a big one, because they're likely to do a background check and find the inconsistencies.
@@JustMe99999doubt it
@@andrewevans7992 Having worked for many big companies and having been a hiring manager, I can assure you that it’s not uncommon.
Background checks and reference checks should be illegal. Put the candidate to test if you need to.
Can’t believe you are expected to be on a hamster wheel for the rest of your life. Sometimes you just need to a year off and get a break from working for years. This seriously needs to change.
No they shouldn't
Bro just think as employer not as employees
It's actually illegal in Europe to call previous employer
Yes & no depends on the situation.
Are you dumb. You don't want checks so that you can lie. Disgraceful
Alot of uk jobs now don't put the salary in the job advert and then when you're filling the form in online, they will have salary expectations as a required field. I assume you're meant to guess 😂
No. Either they want to see how little you’re willing to work for or assess your knowledge of the industry to quote the cost of your labor.
Had a friend almost lose an opportunity because he stated desired salary too low. He raised suspicion of incompetence and an imposter. He was applying for an overseas contracting job and didn’t account for the hazardous locality differential.
@@kingmelanin7468 they always did this in my country everysingle interview i have i have to calculate how much they have to pay me, and what they want to hear.... if i want the chance to have the job, last interviewed i actually quoted less than my last job and wasnt choose because "at this time the company dont have the resources for me" thats what the RH lady said, she was very kind to let me know i asked to much, that too much was way less for me, and very dificult to live with to pay rent, taxes, fuel and having a dream to buy a house.... with some savings... so they just select a young kid with no exp but the ceo dont give a dam because they are cheap.... now tomorrow im going to another interview and it doesnt look to much for me because its a "startup and in our Rona times... they are taking advantage of people.... i have 10 years of experience i worked in uk in both canary wharf and the city of london, the financial sector... and now im stuck with this..... having to low blow myself to a point I hardly make any money after taxes and basic expenses... then everybody hate their job because they dont make enough even for the essencial. im to achmed to admit how low they pay. think way less than half minimal wage in uk.....
They sort by competency, then filter by who will do the job for the least money.
@@mal798 I think it's the other way around: sort by salary, filter the competent
In France you have a site compiler by the syndicate where you can calculate based on your studies and experience what is the average in the industry. I have had collègues who used that to argument why they deserve a raise and they actually got it.
I did an experiment on this. I've been working on the call center industry for years. While waiting on my job application, I got interviewed by this one company. I declared everthing on my resume. Job gaps, short stays. Completely transparent. Despite me being qualified for the job, they didn't hire me because of it. I even told them that I thought they'd consider my honesty but yeah. Got shafted on that interview. Found a better employer a few days after that.
This ... seems to be 100% explainable with my "BBQ" Philosophy. And you might be asking "But... what does Barbecue have to do with anything?!" - NOTHING! Because BBQ does not stand for Barbecue. It stands for "Balls Before Quals." Know your stuff, but don't meet their quals? To hell with their quals! Damn the torpedoes, FULL SPEED AHEAD!
FUCJ YEAH LET'S GO
That's some good piece of advice
ahah I love this!
It should be noted I have a literal pair of brass balls.
One of my friends was offered 10.50 an hour then once they got the job the person on the phone was reading the contract back and said 8.50 an hour, with a quick complaint that was changed back to 10.50. I would also recommend for people to use better language on their CV’s that may help e.g. you worked at a call centre? Suddenly you’re new job role is first line support, your duties included being on call and supporting customers restart their systems and minimise down time etc etc.
Best line I ever learned after being promised a bunch of stuff was "Can I get that in writing?" If they falter. Walk.
I was advised to ask, "Why is the position open?" then watch their eyes, don't listen to what they say.
*Nunya Bidness* Your feet must be really tired.
A comment for the algorithm, because I can!
Father of IT revolution: Joshua Fluke
I lie everytime I even start a resume and also when I send it. How so? Well starting a resume would indicate I want a job in the first place. Indicating I want or desire a job is the biggest lie I could ever tell anyone including myself. Other lies include being a people person, my love for multitasking, a preference for working in a fast paced environment and not minding working overtime and weekends. The thing about flexible hours is truest thing I heard anybody say.
nice, actually the strongest argument for most cases imo
do you REALLY want to go on the hamster wheel for the sake of that company?
sending in a resume is telling the company that you want THEM
if you send your resume to them, it's like sending a love note. You don't really love them.
If you send you resume to multiple companies, that's like cheating on someone. You're promising all these companies you love them
An ideal candidate: Currently works for Fortune 500 company (preferable for Fortune 100) at least for ten years, has a Masters Degree, couple extra Certifications, doesn't want lots of money (willing to take a pay cut for the same role), 25 years old max. The only reason a candidate is willing to switch into your company is simply that he/she believes in your company's -stupid cliche statement that no one cares about- mission/core values more than at the candidate's current company. We have no chance but to lie :/
You can embellish almost anything. Even the amount of time you spent at the previous job. Remember, a back ground check mainly looks for felonies. It does not look at previous employment.
May you please clarify this because i had no idea they could even see the starting time
@@liddobear1125they can see tax stuff
@@liddobear1125they can’t
Currently on the job search now and I just wanted to say Joshua that this video has been a massive comfort to me. I keep getting told I'm overqualified for customer service roles, and passed up for roles that I think I'm a good fit for. I'm tired of it. I'm a human being, I shouldn't have to suffer to just barely get by, enough is enough. I'm not afraid anymore. I will only learn and grow by being in a role that challenges me, I know that much for myself. Thank you for all your kind words and sound advice. Now off for me to find a job!
That's the spirit! That's what I told myself and I'm on a trajectory to go up. I'm done with customer service, hospitality, and other jobs that are a dead end and low paying
Thank you Josh!! I’m so glad I got to watch this video. Now I don’t feel that bad about lying anymore😅I’ve been on a job search for 2 months with no interviews. Last week I lied to 2 recruiters about my years of experience and was submitted for the roles. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for an interview soon (hopefully) if I perform well on the coding challenge😬
UPDATE: I got the job!! Thanks for the advice Josh!!
Did they call you out on the experience?
@@purplebasquiat Nope. During the interview, the senior developer only asked technical questions about the projects I’ve worked on and the certifications I had.
Man that's awesome. I'm going to do the same.
This helped me decide how to proceed. I just graduated this fall, my courses were delayed because of Covid and I've been freaking out over the past few months because I've only gotten 1 interview, and didn't land the job. I'd been really conservative on what I wrote down on my resume; basically didn't claim to have any skills, even if I used it because I don't think I'm at a super competent level with those skills; I've only used them for school projects, etc. Honestly it's kind of crushing me, lately I've had to start drinking just to get the courage to keep sending out my resumes every day. And up here in Canada, many of the "entry level positions" are asking for 4+ years of WORK experience, some even explicitly state non-internship work experience. Once again, for entry level. It legitimately is just soul crushing.
Fuck that dude, just list some stuff you did in school as "work experience" and such. Stretch it out and make up 4 years of experience
Lie as much you can as long it's legal and you have the skill they're looking even if they need 50 years exp with it
Those companies need to go bankrupt. Needing 4+ years experience for an entry level job is absurd.
Canadian market is 10x as fucked as the American one. If American market is nuked, I dont know what state Canada's will be in...
The Canadian job market really does suck, salaries are lower, and frankly too many people for job opportunities in everywhere that isnt a frozen tundra. In reality, Canada is very small, and has too many people (few overpopulated clusters).
2-4 YOE for someone graduating college is hilarious, because even for someone graduating with coop, they have 1.5 YOE, they just keep moving the goal posts, dont they? Disgraceful, really.
The job posts here in Canada are actually a joke... sometimes I think they’re completely trolling because of how absurd the experience they’re looking for is compared to the salary
"Not only warfare is based on deception."
- Moon Tzu
I lied and here I am 20 years old working as a network engineer 😂
I posted part one to a Philly tech community I was apart of and they called you "a whiny entitled baby" those same people don't want me to be in tech and are gatekeeping. I had to leave that community after getting into a huge argument with them. While your views are controversial, I just want to let you know that you have opened my eyes to toxic behavior within the industry. Thank you for looking out.
there's an immense amount of white supremacy within technology. I have used Josh's method's to get into my first network penetration role. I told them I had Network Plus and Security Plus and they didnt even bother to check. Im going on now my 7th month on the job.
I stumbled across this guy's channel two days ago and have been binging on it. He talks straight facts, with no hedging around it. The truth is offensive to those who profit from lies.
I kept my resume honest as an excuse to remain unemployed.
Reverse Uno move. Respect.
Yeah.. I get that. *sigh*
Is this a part of discouragment/giving up?
"Fake it till you make it!" - Pablo Stanley
Really grateful for this channel, exposing corporate hypocrisy and bullshit.
*Joshua Fluke
* is the netflix of the developers 💙
Havent watched in a while (life stuff) but man it's good to be back!! Saving this video for myself for when I start the job search again 😁
This is some good advice. Keep the lies small is what I say. On my resume, I have several gigs as a full-stack contractor. When I learned a new skill and knew I could do it professionally, I changed my duties on those past contracts to reflect what the job listing required. I even took and passed skills tests. No one was ever the wiser. As he said, the hiring industry and/or the company lies to candidates all the time. Well, they might insist only they're allowed to lie, but they don't get a monopoly on unfairness. As long as you know you can do the job, put yourself first and to hell with their rules. Make your own.
I would say leave masters off your resume. I’ve found that it only hurt your chances. Employers figure you want to much money if you have your masters, and they really only need someone with a BS. If they need someone with more education they’ll get someone with a PhD.
Unless is a master of science or computer engineering.
Interesting. My masters is completely different arena from my undergrad so I used it to pivot into a new industry. But it’s literally crazy to think the extra degree can hurt someone’s prospects, 🤦🏾♀️
@@masterofnothing2360 how did you do it? Changing career through masters. Currently finishin college, realizing that I want to work in another industry, my plan is to go get some experience and evaluate what master I can take to change career paths
@@Noname-rq1hr I have a ba in a liberal arts field and a ms in economics. I took an insurance job (claims) after graduating because I needed money and it was the first job to hire me with a decent starting wage in my area; I actually stayed there for about 2 years before applying for jobs in banking. I ended up taking a temporary pay decrease to shift from claims to banking but it was temporary - I worked in my entry level banking role for roughly 1.5 years then shifted to remote work, which I’m currently doing.
Also, just to clarify in case anyone asks, I do NOT regret getting a liberal arts degree for my bachelors. It actually really aligned with my career goals at the time and I feel fairly balanced in how I work/think. Do I recommend everyone get a degree then pivot completely? No.
I'm doing a minimum req associates degree job with an MBA 🤣
Man, thank you for this video and the part 1. I watched your video a night before my interview and got hired on the spot. And it is because I didn't show any weaknesses, job gaps (even though I had some). Honesty or not, one still gives 8 hours at his job and he/she gets money for that, people think too less of themselves and are so grateful for getting a job that they accept low salaries thinking they deserve low ones. When clearly employers just take advantage. Thanks a lot man for your priceless advice. Keep doing the good work.
How did you approach job gaps?
@@CO-jb8wj I had a one year job gap, due to my mother's illness. I had to take care of her, so it almost took 11 months and that is a major gap in this competitive age. So I substituted it with a remote job with some XYZ company abroad as a freelance contractor, and wrote in my resume that I worked on a Unity Game for a confidential product as part of an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement). There are many ways to spin it off, you just need to be confident and consistent with what you tell them and somehow prove that you actually did that job. They might ask follow questions like "what was the game about" or "what did you learn as part of that job" just answer such questions confidently.
My mentality is "I am the perfect man for the job. Look no further."
Really good video, I will be starting a my first dev job next week and it would be an understatement if I said that your videos and HR's lady comments on resumes did not influenced me they were a huge help!. Thank you Joshua, I really look forward for this type of content.
This was needed ;'3, thank you
One thing I HAAATE about employers is offering a certain amount on the job post and then when you get to the interview they ask you how much you are making now so they can offer you a little bit more. Happens so many times that it pisses me off, because most of the time they offer then significantly less than what was advertised. And it doesn't help lying because in my country they want 3 month pay slip to register you for tax.
You are giving the most realistic and true suggestions. Love your videos.
Yeah. I lied about being able to do HPLC to a pharmaceutical company. When I was in the interview, I told them that I’ve studied the theory, and I even had a PowerPoint that I had to do for one of my classes to prove that I knew the theory and have presented it. I showed them my masters thesis that displayed my scientific understanding. I went through the entire interview process. I had other offers from other companies, so when I didn’t hear anything back from them, I just assumed none of my tactics worked. They called me two months later (almost) begging me to come work for them (this was in November, when work schedules are hell). I told them that I found another opportunity at a university. Even if you don’t get a call back, your impression on them can still prevail.
This is one of the best videos on the chanel. I will be editing my cv after watching it
You're bulking hard my man. Gotta stay warm for the winter tho
Time to go bear mode
Hes bloatmaxing to keep the ladies drooling
How did I end up on /fit/ again
@@SobrietyandSolace brothers can always recognize eachother with ease :)
Watched a lot of IT channels, but your is the best one and unique. I don't know ANY channel where I can get so much useful real life information. Thank you for it!
I like how much raw these advices are no sugary BS
Josh ur buff af
Are you still in someone else’s basement?
you look high af
@@aneb.5529 LOL let’s be nice
mmmm... noted.
@@STScott-qo4pw you're replying to an old ass comment
I lied on my resume to get my current position. I stated I had a degree from X college and they did a level 2 background check on me. I still got the job and it didn't come up at all.
Wow you are lucky.
Perfect lesson Josh appreciate it my man
Dude. Where have you been for my entire adult life? This has been very insightful
Josh! I took your advice and got several jobs that way! Thank you so soo SOOOO much!
The truth is if you don’t lie you often won’t get a job. You have to choose between morals and dinner
Love these videos. I’m switching from finance to CS and I like your technique for using your truth
This was definitely better for me than part 1. Thanks
After my first job I realized this:
A person must see his company as a toon, for that is all they see him as.
Your company is like a hammer; work hard and it will build you a house, but in the end, it doesn't care about you; it's a cold, unfeeling piece of steel.
You mean tool.
@@iryairya2008 oh yeah lol
UA-cam: how many adds you want?
Josh: yes
I meaaaan
Thanks for the real tips Josh definitely going to update my resume with your advice
All great points. Thanks for sharing! Smart guy and good strategy!
I really admire your abundance mindset to take leap of faith at whatever without fear of consequences. Working on building that mind frame myself. Getting a job no matter what! Truly you have given me hope and inspiration!✊
This is why Joshua is on his way to half a million subscribers. Honestly relevant, No fugs given opinions.
This video top-tier quality, thank you Joshua!
Thank you for posting this man! It really helped me flush out my resume👏
Additional suggestion regarding degrees, specifically for those that enrolled in college but had to drop out. Be honest in the education section of your resume (attended XYZ university 2014-2015) and if they ask, explain what happened. In my husband's case, he couldn't afford college *and* he got offered a job and decided to work instead. He's been offered jobs that had a degree requirement even though he was only in college for 10 months.
Holy sh*t. It's like we have the same mind. This is exactly how I view things and "play" with my resume, especially the internship part. Made me land the job I wanted.
Thank you for this video, this is a really great way to think about the process.
Your videos are soo valuable for the layman, please keep making these
It’s knowing how to sell yourself and being confident aka lying and acting.
I like these videos a lot. I was hired on to an entry-level engineer position without a degree, the job posting had it as a hard requirement but they still waived it after I interviewed.
Thank you so muuuch! I've learned alot from part1 and 2 huhu 🥳
Thank you Mr Fluke! Great work!
Two years later and it’s still relevant. Will be lying about how awesome I am for a job, changing to my REAL title, and listing myself as an employee of my LLC.
I applied for a backend position and got put in Analytics 🤦♂️
Thank you for your videos, Josh. You're a great source of inspiration.
Absolutely love your content