Great review, I’m looking to get this bike as a beginner rider and I’m sick of only seeing people crying about the fact that “it’s not a Daytona!”, there’s not a lot of objective reviews on it (i know it’s new), but it’s nice to see someone enjoy the experience without having an opinion on it before riding it
I'm of the same opinion - looks awesome for a first big bike. It also seems to me motorcycling has a large proportion of people stuck in their ways too, and they are very vocal. It is full of middle aged men, maybe the midlife crisis, who feel they need to portray some masculinity. Not sure why - guess they are just insecure. But they are holding the industry back and it really sucks. The industry loves it as they just charge more every year for new stickers/paint and these guys lap it up - guaranteed profit hike for doing sweet FA for another year (although Honda bucked the trend with the E-clutch... much to the annoyance of the cave men).
You're exactly right, they would've sold bugger all if triumph made it a 765, bent over, heels up your arse racer. This makes sense as a good road sport bike. Good review Tim
They should not have called it a Daytona. If they had used a new name to distinguish their road biased sport bike from their aggressive sport bike, it would have received much better reviews. Not only that, but I fear that by using the Daytona name, they may put off the younger crowd who go out on Saturdays with their fellow sport bike riders to carve up some curves or blast down the highway. I can imagine the ribbing a 25 year old might receive rolling up to the group on a Daytona that doesn't really live up to the Daytona name. I bet that 25 year old potential buyer can imagine it as well. I can't believe it would have been hard to come up with a brand new name.
@operator0 What kind of groups of bikers do you have there? Ribbing him for what? Absolutely ridiculous. In the UK we support all bikers. No matter what they ride.
@@amococ2487 I'm talking about his riding buddies, not some rando. I don't know what kind of guys you ride with, but guys who are friends rib each other over anything.
@@operator0 Triumph in the Hinckley era has called all of their fully faired sport bikes "Daytona" from long before the 675 triple platform existed. It's their sport marque, like "Ninja" is to Kawasaki. All of the Daytonas that preceded the 675 were road focused first with varying engine displacements and degrees of track performance. In fact, originally, the Daytona 675 was conceived as a road focused/friendly sportbike with more torque and a more useful powerband vs. the extremely peaky supersports of that time. It just happened to be great on track, too. But few people seem to remember that.
Ryka’s is an amazing place and always was but now vastly improved. That looks like a great first bike when you’ve just past your test. Not too fast or heavy so a great bike to do most things really well…
Just upgraded to one of these after 1.5 years with a 2018 CBR650F. The riding position is definitely more aggressive, but nothing like an R7. I'm still in the break in period so I haven't revved the snot out of this yet, but I briefly did get into the higher RPMs on a test ride and it felt very powerful. It does vibrate a lot more at high revs than the Honda did, but the torque kicks you in the butt much sooner, the CBR only gave it to me at the very top of the range which you had to work up to, which was kind of nice as a new rider. This is like, more power than that, way sooner. It's still a bit scary to me! Fit and finish of the bike is way nicer than the Honda though and it feels better in corners.
Enjoyed that Tim - looking forward to trying one of these myself as a Triumph Triple fan but pants fast rider I think this might be in the sweet spot for me..certainly love the looks and sound (and price!) of it. Enjoy your euro trip - look forward to watching those vids too.....
Thanks sir! I need to pull my finger out and actually work out my plan for the tour next week… there’s a Venn diagram in my head of good roads, good food and war stuff 😂 I think you’d like the Daytona!
Tim, I still have a first-generation Daytona 675, which is undergoing a bit of a refresh right now. I have never thought about parting with it because I would also miss it dearly. Good thing I also have a '22 Street Triple RS to pass the time. Outstanding bikes.
I love analogue dashboards with physical needles moving around, and high quality digital dashboards are also nice. This looks like a late 2000s Indian market budget thing on a 200cm³ shitter haha Want to try one oneday, seems like its a bit like a old SV650s, which were nice sportish biked.
Everyone complains about the dash on the 660's but I really don't mind it. I'm a big fan of the analogue dash; the dash on the 2013 Street Triple is IMO a beautiful design with all the info you need. These Trident/Tiger/Daytona dash setups are spiritually the same. Up top is a bright and clear LCD which works in any lighting and gives you the most important speed, tach, gear, and fuel. And the bottom screen isn't like a 5-7" TFT fancy thing with cool animations like the 2020 Street Triples or modern BMW, Aprilia, KTM, etc... but its got all the info you need. Fuel range, trips, gear and time, temps, settings menu. These bikes also don't come with all of the extra settings and custom rider modes and things that the bigger bikes over $10k do, so you don't really need a bigger screen to be diving into nitty gritty mappings and things. I understand that a bigger fancier dash might be prettier or feel more premium... but I kinda like how clean and readable my Trident dash is, bridging that gap between analogue and digital. At a glance I can immediately see all the pertinent info I need while I'm riding, and unlike some of the TFT dashes I've seen that can get really washed out in the sunlight, that LCD is super clear no matter what.
Seems like pretty good value and that they've put some thought into it, although can't understand the name choice. Great jacket btw, Is that a Rodie own brand you're pushing as a side line 🤔
Argh - you almost got through the whole review without saying 6'3"! I tried a Tiger Sport 660 which is the same engine as the Trident I believe and I agree it feels like it's just getting going when it hits the limiter. I really enjoyed that bike but was frustrated at the same time so I think I'd better go and try one of these.
@@chrishall9625 I'll try, but my time is somewhat limited so I usually just end up riding the newest stuff / stuff I'm interested in. I will do at some point though
Because this isn’t a hardcore sports bike, that’s the whole point. You don’t have to work the engine as hard and the suspension is more road biased - a bit like the Ducati Supersport vs the Pani V2
Because they are uncomfortable and are track bikes used on the road instead of true road focussed sport bikes. Many people also don't have a couple extra grand just lying around, especially with the current cost of living.
Just to add to the chorus, the CBR 600RR, ZX-6R, GSXR 600/750, R6, Panagale V2, Daytona 675/765, etc.are supersport bikes with a large emphasis on track performance. That's not what this class of bikes is. The Suzuki GSXS-8R, CBR650R, Daytona 660, Aprilia RS660 and the like are more relaxed, more affordable, more friendly on the road, cheaper to insure, and more suitable for newer riders (they all comply with A2 power restrictions in countries that mandate them).
@@ApexRadius agreed, although they will need to be restricted to comply with A2 or Lambs. A Ninja 400 with an EU tune is A2 power to weight ratio ready (45/46 HP in EU Vs × believe 51 HP in USA) Best bike I ever owned when I worked in London.
Great review, I’m looking to get this bike as a beginner rider and I’m sick of only seeing people crying about the fact that “it’s not a Daytona!”, there’s not a lot of objective reviews on it (i know it’s new), but it’s nice to see someone enjoy the experience without having an opinion on it before riding it
I'm of the same opinion - looks awesome for a first big bike. It also seems to me motorcycling has a large proportion of people stuck in their ways too, and they are very vocal. It is full of middle aged men, maybe the midlife crisis, who feel they need to portray some masculinity. Not sure why - guess they are just insecure. But they are holding the industry back and it really sucks. The industry loves it as they just charge more every year for new stickers/paint and these guys lap it up - guaranteed profit hike for doing sweet FA for another year (although Honda bucked the trend with the E-clutch... much to the annoyance of the cave men).
You're exactly right, they would've sold bugger all if triumph made it a 765, bent over, heels up your arse racer. This makes sense as a good road sport bike. Good review Tim
Thanks sir!
They should not have called it a Daytona. If they had used a new name to distinguish their road biased sport bike from their aggressive sport bike, it would have received much better reviews. Not only that, but I fear that by using the Daytona name, they may put off the younger crowd who go out on Saturdays with their fellow sport bike riders to carve up some curves or blast down the highway. I can imagine the ribbing a 25 year old might receive rolling up to the group on a Daytona that doesn't really live up to the Daytona name. I bet that 25 year old potential buyer can imagine it as well. I can't believe it would have been hard to come up with a brand new name.
@operator0 What kind of groups of bikers do you have there? Ribbing him for what? Absolutely ridiculous. In the UK we support all bikers. No matter what they ride.
@@amococ2487 I'm talking about his riding buddies, not some rando. I don't know what kind of guys you ride with, but guys who are friends rib each other over anything.
@@operator0 Triumph in the Hinckley era has called all of their fully faired sport bikes "Daytona" from long before the 675 triple platform existed. It's their sport marque, like "Ninja" is to Kawasaki.
All of the Daytonas that preceded the 675 were road focused first with varying engine displacements and degrees of track performance. In fact, originally, the Daytona 675 was conceived as a road focused/friendly sportbike with more torque and a more useful powerband vs. the extremely peaky supersports of that time. It just happened to be great on track, too. But few people seem to remember that.
Ryka’s is an amazing place and always was but now vastly improved. That looks like a great first bike when you’ve just past your test. Not too fast or heavy so a great bike to do most things really well…
Just upgraded to one of these after 1.5 years with a 2018 CBR650F. The riding position is definitely more aggressive, but nothing like an R7. I'm still in the break in period so I haven't revved the snot out of this yet, but I briefly did get into the higher RPMs on a test ride and it felt very powerful. It does vibrate a lot more at high revs than the Honda did, but the torque kicks you in the butt much sooner, the CBR only gave it to me at the very top of the range which you had to work up to, which was kind of nice as a new rider. This is like, more power than that, way sooner. It's still a bit scary to me! Fit and finish of the bike is way nicer than the Honda though and it feels better in corners.
Enjoyed that Tim - looking forward to trying one of these myself as a Triumph Triple fan but pants fast rider I think this might be in the sweet spot for me..certainly love the looks and sound (and price!) of it. Enjoy your euro trip - look forward to watching those vids too.....
Thanks sir! I need to pull my finger out and actually work out my plan for the tour next week… there’s a Venn diagram in my head of good roads, good food and war stuff 😂 I think you’d like the Daytona!
@@timrodierides ...weather looks alright next week too - get planning!!
Fantastic video, Tim. Agree with everything you said there. This bike is going to sell very well I think
Looking fwd to the full review. Pleased to hear that it did not seem too soft. The Instrument screen is woeful.
Tim, I still have a first-generation Daytona 675, which is undergoing a bit of a refresh right now. I have never thought about parting with it because I would also miss it dearly. Good thing I also have a '22 Street Triple RS to pass the time. Outstanding bikes.
I like this very much, the riding position doesn’t look too radical however the dash looks totally pants….come on Triumph sort it out. Thanks Tim 👍
Nah by far the best looking digital dash I've ever seen
Great review, Tim. Maybe I'll give this a try. I'm not a sports bike fan, but this might be a good middle option.
I love analogue dashboards with physical needles moving around, and high quality digital dashboards are also nice. This looks like a late 2000s Indian market budget thing on a 200cm³ shitter haha
Want to try one oneday, seems like its a bit like a old SV650s, which were nice sportish biked.
What an excellent review👍👍keep up the good work 🍻
Great review. Thanks.
Nice Velocette Thruxton at the front of those bikes that pulled out
I did notice that! I think he pulled out with loads of space and his riding buddies just followed suit without looking behind them 😂
Everyone complains about the dash on the 660's but I really don't mind it. I'm a big fan of the analogue dash; the dash on the 2013 Street Triple is IMO a beautiful design with all the info you need. These Trident/Tiger/Daytona dash setups are spiritually the same. Up top is a bright and clear LCD which works in any lighting and gives you the most important speed, tach, gear, and fuel. And the bottom screen isn't like a 5-7" TFT fancy thing with cool animations like the 2020 Street Triples or modern BMW, Aprilia, KTM, etc... but its got all the info you need. Fuel range, trips, gear and time, temps, settings menu.
These bikes also don't come with all of the extra settings and custom rider modes and things that the bigger bikes over $10k do, so you don't really need a bigger screen to be diving into nitty gritty mappings and things. I understand that a bigger fancier dash might be prettier or feel more premium... but I kinda like how clean and readable my Trident dash is, bridging that gap between analogue and digital. At a glance I can immediately see all the pertinent info I need while I'm riding, and unlike some of the TFT dashes I've seen that can get really washed out in the sunlight, that LCD is super clear no matter what.
Looks to be a nice sport bike for the road but I'll stick with the Speed Twin 1200. Triumph have a great range of bikes. Cheers for the review.
Thanks.
I like the jacket!
Seems like pretty good value and that they've put some thought into it, although can't understand the name choice. Great jacket btw, Is that a Rodie own brand you're pushing as a side line 🤔
Hahaha no it’s a Furygan Mistral Evo 3. I got it last week as my first mesh jacket and it’s game changing when it’s warm!
Argh - you almost got through the whole review without saying 6'3"!
I tried a Tiger Sport 660 which is the same engine as the Trident I believe and I agree it feels like it's just getting going when it hits the limiter. I really enjoyed that bike but was frustrated at the same time so I think I'd better go and try one of these.
what a year for Triumph
Have you ridden the GSX-8R yet? Would love to hear your thoughts on it. PS, your videos have me lusting after a MT-10.
I haven't, criminally. I'm hatching a plan to catch up on Suzukis, so watch this space
As Triumph is matching more and more of the Japanese offerings do you think they'll try to create a Ninja 500/RS457/450SR competitor soon?
Maybe, they have that 400 engine now…
Better burgers Tim at Newlands Corner. (in my opinion) They toast the buns, very important vicar...
Ah I like those but they’re classic greasy spoon ones, these have nicer bacon and are smash ones. Both good, just different 😂
What's it like compared to the cbr650r Tim?
It's been so so long since I've ridden one I can't really say - sorry!
@@timrodierides I'd ride one if I were you, that's the direct comparison against this bike, and would be content people would want to see
@@chrishall9625 I'll try, but my time is somewhat limited so I usually just end up riding the newest stuff / stuff I'm interested in. I will do at some point though
Hey mate where in the uk you are riding
He said the rough area at the start. Plus there are plenty of road signs legible in the video to let you work it all out.
If you’re in the market for a new middle weight sports bike why not save another couple of grand and buy the cbr 600rr or zx6r?
Because this isn’t a hardcore sports bike, that’s the whole point. You don’t have to work the engine as hard and the suspension is more road biased - a bit like the Ducati Supersport vs the Pani V2
Because they are uncomfortable and are track bikes used on the road instead of true road focussed sport bikes. Many people also don't have a couple extra grand just lying around, especially with the current cost of living.
Completely different animal much cheaper and softer for the road , I like it alot , be cool if they did an RS version though 😉
Just to add to the chorus, the CBR 600RR, ZX-6R, GSXR 600/750, R6, Panagale V2, Daytona 675/765, etc.are supersport bikes with a large emphasis on track performance. That's not what this class of bikes is. The Suzuki GSXS-8R, CBR650R, Daytona 660, Aprilia RS660 and the like are more relaxed, more affordable, more friendly on the road, cheaper to insure, and more suitable for newer riders (they all comply with A2 power restrictions in countries that mandate them).
@@ApexRadius agreed, although they will need to be restricted to comply with A2 or Lambs. A Ninja 400 with an EU tune is A2 power to weight ratio ready (45/46 HP in EU Vs × believe 51 HP in USA) Best bike I ever owned when I worked in London.
Sir, can i talk to you?
No thanks
The dash & triple trees look hideous & scream budget 😂
one of the ugliest "sports" bike ever made
Really? So, what's your idea of 'sports' bike beauty, then?
Please.... enlighten me.😄
I think he needs to go to specsavers 😂
I suggest you don’t buy one then! I quite like it… but then I think the original Multistrada is beautiful
I think it looks great and really want one
Literally the only person who’s ever said that