This is the best Daytona 660 review on UA-cam right now! Someone finally acknowledged how different the Daytona was in the 90's. The 675r wasn't the only version worthy of the Daytona name. This new one should sell 👍
I've been researching bikes with ferocity and I couldn't agree more with you. This gentleman provides the Daytona 660 a very fair review and seemingly lacks that "nostalgia" bias that I am seeing from many other reviewers. Personally, I'm looking for my first bike and after about a week of consistent research, the Daytona has peaked my interest. It seems to be a quality bike with the sporty aesthetic I'm looking for. It looks beautiful and I am hearing mostly positive reviews on it. Hopefully in about a month and a half, I'll be able to actually give an opinion on it from a first time perspective!
Hands down the best review of this bike so far. Everything on bike. Incredible detail. Great knowledge. Great video. Great audio. To be honest dude, you've shamed the others. Top notch. I'd start a paper if I were you guys.
I tried it yesterday in Italy. I agree with you on everything. What is very important than any review is the feeling your body and your mind as with the bike. I felt just myself, even if the monitor is a little shitty and there we no electronic suspension. I felt alive anyway. That’s why I bought it.
What a sensible, sober and informative review. No lifestyle Stratocaster wailing away in the background. Just calmly delivered information. Thanks Bennetts!
If you know what your are doing then you can pretty much have fun on any bike. However there’s so much more fun to be had on a smaller CC bike than a bigger one. I pretty much followed in the usual direction of a new rider. Started small and then worked my way up but once I got out of that stigma and branched my experience, man what a difference. I sold my big bikes got an adventure bike and a CFmoto 450ss and let me tell you, that 450 is a blast. I’ll most likely never go to a bigger cc sport bike again. Too much work and I’ll admit im no Rossi so I’ll never be able to use that bike to its full limit. However the speed I lack in the straight I can make up in the corners do I don’t have any issue keeping up with my friends. We are definitely back in the 80’s with all these brands making middle weight bikes with a ton of character. I’m all for it and I think it’ll suet a lot of riders as well. Sweet review of the new 660🤙🏼
Excellent review. Martin leaves no stone unturned and has the experience to back up his comments. Agree or disagree with him, he’s informative and entertaining from start to finish
Now that his one is in India, not launched yet but was fortunate enough to see this "DAYTONA " in flesh at a dealer point. Waiting for the time to get hands on it. Deep appreciation and respect for the sharing of the experiences,the judgement and the fun.
It’s the Dash for me that lets down the package a little bit ! Why didn’t they go for a full TFT ?! They’re calling it a “Daytona”🤨 Shouldn’t have cut the cost here
@@TheLastCrankersWell most TFTs are great & are better to read during both day & night. That’s why they put them in their bikes. This Daytona dash reminds me of my ex’s scooters
I'm torn. A fancier dash like from the bigger Tigers or Street Triple would be nice, but its not really necessary. Its the same dash shared with the Trident and Tiger Sport 660, and with the features of the bike there's not much more you need. Unlike the bigger bikes in the lineup, there's not a lot of modes or customisation with these entry-level middleweights. You've got 2 or 3 modes that cycle with a button, and TC On/Off. That's it. You can scroll around and see oil temps and trip ODOs and stuff... but when you're riding your main info is readily available- Tachometer, Speed, Gear, Fuel, Time. Everything else is just shiny for the sake of being shiny, but doesn't really add anything when you're riding. Now- if there were a lot more options for tech on these bikes like you get with Suzukis or Hondas or BMWs, or the bigger Triumph bikes, sure a fancy dash would be nice. If you had multiple TC levels, lots of modes, a user mode with customisation, etc... that's a lot of info you need to cycle thru and so a bigger dash is more useful. For these smaller bikes that are more about local commuting and fun, not touring or advanced track riding... they just don't have the tech to really require more from the dash. I'm currently on a CFMOTO 300NK as a beginner bike, looking to upgrade to a Daytona 660 or Tiger 660 in the next year, and the 5" TFT on the 300NK is really nice. It's fancy. But honestly I don't use it for much. My main screen has Tach, Gear, Speed, Fuel, Time, Oil Temp, and two small optionals which I leave as ODO and Voltage. In sunlight that dash can get a bit washed out, and when I'm riding I'm not staring at it. I might look down to check my speed, or quickly see my revs. At a light I might check the time and my fuel... but really, I don't use the dash for much. So I don't feel like I'd be missing much "stepping down" to a Triumph LCD/TFT combo.
Impressive recall of specifications by the reviewer while riding. Lots of folks getting upset over calling it a Daytona. Does it matter? Definitely the most informative review to date. It's amazing how you remembered all the details.
Excellent review. Every reviewer picked up on the same front end issue. This would be a deal breaker for me, but otherwise the bike is beautiful and the engine is great.
Excellent review !! It was nice NOT to have all the 'laddish' larking about. Just got down to the business of giving a sensible review. Have said that, I still like the 44 Teeth type of review, but it's nice to have the 'sensible' review too.
Ask Simon to put a shim on the shock to get more weight on the front wheel :-) The Daytona looks nice (from the front) and sounds amazing. Triumph really don't have a bad bike in their range!
Great review…great bike for the current market🔥Just the dash reminds me of my ex’s scooter!!Should’ve gone with a proper TFT like the one in their street triples
I am riding gsxs1000f , had 2019 hayabusa prior to this and 2017 cbr650f prior to that.. Today, I feel 650cc is the best option, because you can actually use that power or can say enjoy that power on a daily basis, 1000cc bikes are a bit too much power for roads. This 660 should sell, coz it looks like a perfect mix of what a daily use or road riding bike should have. Mature riders will love this. I am also waiting for it's launch here in my country and if priced well, I might sell my gsxs1000f and buy this. Cbr650r and 650f were great bikes but the engine was too vibey. This looks a better clone of those. Triumph is on a roar with all it's recent launches.
Its a Daytona for the road and a bloody good one. If you want a lairy track bike, you do not buy this bike. But seriously, how many of us spend time on track days. Triumph have another hit on their hands (and thats from a cbr owner !)
You have to press mode button in & then the up & down buttons in & main menu will come up & you can select Traction control on or off. To select mode press mode button & select Road or Sport mode & dip the accelerator & coast on a straight without using the brakes for a few seconds & mode will swap to what you've selected this is how you do it on the Trident 🔱.When you turn bike off the modes will reset to normal which will be Road mode & Traction control on so you have to reset each time you start bike but can be done while bike is at idle as well. Quick shifter is a must on these bikes so much better to ride.
its a great bike , just that the instrument cluster could have been a bit more modern , looks a bit old and also the ground clearance could have been a bit more high.
This is exactly what I thought when I first saw the bike. Mind you, I've been considering both the Triumph Street Triple R & Ducati Supersport. Overall, I feel like this provides the compromise of both.
Thank you for this video, after Watching other Video (Which is the best middleweight sportsbike of 2024?) this videos is bang on. Great Knowledge, Correct details & Honest opinion. Simply Perfect Daytona 660 Review on UA-cam I feel! Cheers! 🤟
You're very kind with the praise, this is what we're here to do: offer credible, quality, detailed information after a somewhat limited amount of time on the bike at a press launch. Realistically, we should rename these 'first impressions' but nobody searches for that! All the best, Michael M
I didn't like it when it was first announced. But more and more, I have come around to what the Daytona 660 is on it's own merits. I've been riding only a year and on my third bike. A 2009 GSX-R600. All my bikes have been used, so looking to get a bike new. Either to replace or as a 2nd to the GSX-R. That bike is quite exciting to ride and slowly becoming a classic. This new Daytona 660 is on my short list now for sure.
I don't know why Triumph didn't just call it the Triumph Trident 660RR. It has more DNA with it than the Daytona models of old. But I guess the name has more pulling power than Trident
The Daytona models of old were more like this new 660 and they had Trident variants, the 675 and limited 765 Moto 2 were the only exceptions. The older Daytona’s were also softer like this, more street friendly sport bikes…
Unless you’re track riding it’s not really a better bike, and Aprillia’s tiny dealer network is a hard sell for us who live in more rural areas. There’s 3 Triumphs dealerships before I hit an Aprillia dealership in the radius where I live. In terms of straight line acceleration there’s already 3rd party data out, and the Daytona is significantly quicker than the RS660. 0-100 kmh- Daytona 660: 3.1 seconds. RS660- 3.9 seconds. 0-200 kmh- Daytona 660: 12 seconds flat. RS660: 14.4 seconds. To put into perspective the MT09 does 0-200 in 11.8 seconds, the Street Triple 765RS does it in 11.3 seconds, and the Z900 does it in 11.1 seconds. So the Daytona is definitely a quick bike in a straight line, as it’s not far off from the bigger “middleweights.” The RS660 obviously handles better and needs a lot less attention to the chassis so it’s a better track bike. But for 99% of street riders the Daytona is more than enough bike. A tire upgrade will help a lot on the Daytona…
In the US here. Rs 660 is about 12k here where the daytona is 9k.(before dealer fees for both). I would love a rs660 but can't justify paying 3ish K more for it not to mention my closest dealer for Aprilia is a about a 150 miles away.
RS660 went down in price for the 2024 models, and it is now just a bit more expensive than a Daytona, but you get a lot more bike for your money. It nukes this bike in every category, especially looks and weight.
The Aprilia is a good chunk lighter (around 20kg) and it does come with more tech (cruise, quickshifter, IMU), but having tested them both I think the Triumph has the better engine. UK dealers are advertising new RS660s for around £9300 - you pays your money, you takes your choice.
In the US an RS660 is $2500 more. That’s a fair bit of money, granted it comes with a lot more. Also 3rd party acceleration times are out, the Triumph Daytona 660 did 0-100 kmh in 3.1 seconds and 0-200 kmh in 12 seconds flat. The RS660 took 3.9 seconds to 100 kmh, and to 200 kmh took 14.4 seconds. So in a straight line the triple powered Daytona takes the cake by a fair margin. Top speed is identical between 2 bikes, the Daytona just gets there quicker. The put into perspective the MT09 does 0-200 kmh in 11.8 seconds. So this Daytona is breathing down its neck. Triumph is notorious for underscoring their power figures so I’m curious to see stock dyno’s, and the Daytona has excellent gear ratios…
I must say, been enjoying the bike the week that I've had it.. I did try the aprilia, a fun bike but felt kinda not as well built? Couldn't find neutral, and already the test bike made me worry about reliability.. the Daytona feels solid in comparison
@@rajeshrameswaran Earlier years had issues, that is why I waited this long to get one. For some reason (at least on my bike) it is easier to click down from 2nd into neutral than from 1st up into neutral. It is weird, but at least it is consistent. :D
Great review. Thanks. Been reading up a lot on this bike as bike no three. With and Akra exhaust it will sound Amasing and maybe become a 100hp bike. Enough for me. And dare I say… you look a bit like Swedens Minister of Civil Defence, Carl-Oskar Bohlin. Nice beard man
I have owned a number of Daytona’s over the years. Triumph need to Offer this incarnation of the Daytona in yellow with improved suspension (for a few hundred quid more) and this would be sweet.
Exactly. Triumph made a nice, sporty road bike, rather than a track bike people use on the road. Kind of like using chainsaw to cut your chicken. There is mass confusion in motorcycling that everything should react like light switch. Thing is, sportbikes ridden at track speeds, they were designed to modulate linearly. They only operate like light switches at low speeds where they were never designed to be ridden. Road bikes should modulate linearly at lower speed road riding, which it sounds exactly like this one does. I will also mention that an engine making linear (straight line up and to the right) power will result in a flat torque curve. It's math. Look at an electric motor as an example of what an ICE engine should be trying to accomplish. The power is the salient part, but not the peak power marketing nonsense. The power across the rev range. If you summed up all that power over the rev range, you would get the engine's total power delivery. Oddly, mechanical engineers have yet to figure this out, hence we get peak power marketing nonsense. Torque is not something different from power. You engine burns gas. The rate at which that energy is converted to heat is the power produced. It doesn't magically turn from torque to power at some point along the rev range. In a rotational system, the power creates some ratio of torque to rotational speed. It's based on the gearing. In first gear, you get a lot of torque and little speed. Think peddling a bike in first gear. The gear makes it easy to peddle for you to climb a hill, but it comes at the expense of having to peddle like hell to go fast enough to keep the bike from falling over. 10th gear is just the opposite. You get very low torque to the wheel and it becomes very hard for the power from your Wheaties to peddle, but you don't have to peddle very fast to go fast once you have some momentum. In any event, race bikes can have engines that develop a ton of power high in the rev range, because on a track, they can be kept spinning high in the rev range where it can be used. On a road bike, you want linear power delivery where the power can be used over a much broader area of the rev range. Oddly, motorcycle engineers know a lot more about what they're doing than most UA-cam reviewers, but you impressed me. You are one of the few who figured it out.
Great review! Great engine. Hate the dash, looks cheap without much information and the frame covers are a try-on. Your comments on handling are really interesting. Some say the suspension is too soft and the bike dives if you brake hard and squats of you accelerate hard, unsettling riding. Maybe underdamped for a rough B road. Did you experience that?
That wasn't my impression. It didn't seem too soft to me - but then I wasn't riding as fast as some of the other Brits. Entirely possible that if you're a very experienced, really fast rider you might find it too soft. If you are, and if you do, then this isn't the bike for you - there's a 765RS elsewhere in Triumph's range for that.
Wow a review of this bike on it's own merits rather then one in the shadow of it's wonderful but far more expensive predisposes - which didn't sell in profitably numbers. This is in the tradition of the first Daytona; which was simply a T100 with twin carbs, hotter "Q" cams and a close ratio trans which made a T100R with Daytona decals. Bet it dose well against other 10k entry level sports bikes. However, a true replacement for the wonderful 675 would be great to see!
It looks nice and the price is very attractive. Non adjustable suspension and no std quickshifter is a bit odd given it’s meant to be a “kind of” sports bike but I expect it wasn’t possible at the price. Problem is it’s basically no better than a Trident or Tiger Sport with less practicality and a more cramped and uncomfortable riding position, and it costs more. The state of our roads, volume of traffic and speed enforcement aren’t what they were in the ‘90s so I wonder what use this sort of bike will be on today’s roads?
A landslide of Daytona 660 videos right after they have recalled tridents and tiger 660 for fork caps breaking off.... Look up this recall, also right on the tail of the triple speed 1200 engine overheating recall - NOT GOOD. L
@@ellwoodwolf Yep , the Daytona is more than the standard Z900 and the same as an MT09 where I live. Or a GSX S1000 on a deal. All way quicker and arguably handles better. The GSX certainly does.
What are you guys on about? I just talked to a dealer today. Here are the numbers. Where I live a Z900 ABS is $9,899. The MT09 is $10,599. The Daytona 660 is $9,195. So no, it’s not more expensive… it’s cheaper. And in terms of straight line performance it’s slower sure, but barely. 3rd party test results are as follows. Z900: 0-100 kmh: 3.1 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 11.1 seconds. MT09: 0-100 kmh: 3.1 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 11.8 seconds. Daytona 660: 0-100 kmh: 3.1 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 12.0 seconds. So it’s nearly as quick… We don’t have the new CBR600RR here. But here’s the new CBR650R since it’s the number 1 competitor. Price: $9,899. Acceleration: 0-100 kmh: 3.4 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 16.2 seconds. So the Daytona 660 is a lot quicker than its main competitor, and it’s the cheapest…
Yeah, there is room for improvement, but it's a fun sporty "street bike" not a track bike, it's good value for money and as far as the name goes most folk won't care! Personally, I like naked bikes, I have the trident 660, which I think is great. Would trade it for a trident 660 if/when they put this Daytona engine in it. Thank you for the video.
This bike would have absolutely shattered the competition if it had 1. Aluminium frame and weighed 10-12 kgs less 2. Adjustable front suspension 3. Full color TFT display that they have on street triple.
I’m currently looking at getting a new 600ish sports bike and have tried CBR650R (not a 24 model ) GSX8R and RS660, when the Daytona is available at my local dealer I’m going to give it a spin but up to now I fancy the CBR650R e clutch when it arrives, I didn’t find the GSX8R anywhere as comfortable or nice to ride and the RS660 is an absolute weapon but again just doesn’t feel as good as the Honda, as a bit of background I’m 52 and have preferred twins rather than fours so it’s been a surprise to me to prefer the CBR.
The Daytona has a very similar rider triangle to the CBR650R, they’re basically identical. I have a rider triangle overlay of both those bikes. So you’ll probably like the Daytona in terms of ergonomics feel. I think I’m going to put a deposit down on one myself.
what I could understand is Triumph should have brought Street Triple 765 R , instead of 765 RS it should have been Daytona 765 , because if not for the Racing oriented Tuning on the RS they should have made it an upgraded Daytona 765 making it a worthy return of the Prodigal Son. Triumph wouldn't have even needed a Moto 2 Version as well if Daytona 765 would have made it to the mass market
How is the riding position compared to the Thruxton RS? Do you have any measurements concerning riding position? I loved my RS but I’m 65 years and a little stift here and there 😂. Thank you for very good information of the bike. The new Daytona is a real beauty, especially in red or white 🥰
I have numbers comparing Trident ergonomics to Daytona, but not to Thruxton. It's been a while since I last rode a Thruxton, but from memory I think the Daytona's ergonomics felt a touch more upright and relaxed. The Daytona's definitely an all-day riding position.
The Daytona’s riding position is pretty much the same as a CBR650R. Not sure if you have sat on one of those or not… semi aggressive, but still fairly comfortable…
I thought this was a watered down piece of shit not worthy of the Daytona name… but then I test driven one a few days ago… now I want one. Not a supersports bike, but it is a damn good bike… not slow at all… and very easy to drive for something this fast … reckon it will do 0 to 100 km/h just over 3 seconds, meaning it will give a ZX-6R a run for it’s money up to 100 km/h …. acceleration only falls short compared to ZX-6R after 100 km/h. I am a ZX-6R owner but that bike is not something I want to drive every day. This Daytona 660 is good for every day at any time and i do not mind loosing some of the ZX-6R too end rush. The 660 weighs more than my ZX-6R but feels much lighter and easier to drive in town.
looks great for my second bike list.if power would have been around 120 hp and torque around 100 nm would have been perfect.well everyone's perfect is different.
I'd not noticed until I saw your comment but you're right. Too short I think, kinda like the cbr650r. Stubby tail works on the naked but seems wrong on a sports bike
Triumph has instructed all reviewers not to show both headlights of the bike 😂. They themselves know that this bike is one eyed. That's a shame in 2024, when cbr650r and Ninja 400 have beautiful headlights that are both ON at the same time. Plus, this ugly dash has been recycled several times. I can't believe even the new Street triple R has same dash.
Depends where you are. In the US it’s a $2500 difference. And in a straight line the Daytona is quicker. 3rd party test results- Daytona 660: 0-100 kmh in 3.1 second and 0-200 kmh in 12 seconds flat. RS660: 0-100 kmh in 3.9 seconds and 0-200 kmh in 14.4 seconds. That’s pretty significant considering an MT09 is 3.1 seconds 0-100 kmh and 0-200 kmh in 11.8 seconds… Top speeds are identical. So the Daytona is quicker. The only real advantage the RS660 has is on track, but 99% of normal street riders couldn’t max a Daytona on the track, let alone an RS660…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 do you really think on road Daytona 660 is better than rs660? You drive only in straight road? No corners? You don't use brake? Aprilia is a much better bike overall. And of course is more expensive. And looks great, this Daytona is ugly...
@@ciuffoarancione8929 99% of riders could NOT max ride the Daytona to its absolute limit, that’s a fact. Machine has a much higher limit than the operator generally… the Daytona’s brakes are quite good, the only real let downs is the unadjustable suspension and the stock tires aren’t the greatest. Other than that, for a STREET bike, it’s an excellent rig. Especially for how cheap it is. Of course you get more with an Aprillia, but it also costs $2500 more… and having fully adjustable suspension is not necessary for a street application. And no, I live in the very rural northeast, it’s all hills and mountains where I live…
Ahh, that's interesting. I love the Aprilia 660, but think the Triumph wins it for me. It looks meaner. I like the angry look on the front of the Datona.
The Daytona 675R had all the character of a best-in-breed creation: sublime chassis, steel braided brake lines, Brembo calipers, Ohlins suspension., quickshifter. The Daytona 660, on the other hand, shows all the signs of being built to a budget. That’s why it should have been called something else. Maybe the Triumph Meh
This is middleweight sportbike 0.5. While the Rs660 is the 1.0 because it does both the road/sport thing pretty well. This bike only does half. hence the 0.5 just like the suzuki.
The Suzuki handles better. Where I live you can get a Street Triple for the price of an RS660 and that does everything better. The RS 660 list prices is the same as an Street Triple RS and discounted price the same as the R.
This is the best Daytona 660 review on UA-cam right now! Someone finally acknowledged how different the Daytona was in the 90's. The 675r wasn't the only version worthy of the Daytona name. This new one should sell 👍
I've been researching bikes with ferocity and I couldn't agree more with you. This gentleman provides the Daytona 660 a very fair review and seemingly lacks that "nostalgia" bias that I am seeing from many other reviewers. Personally, I'm looking for my first bike and after about a week of consistent research, the Daytona has peaked my interest. It seems to be a quality bike with the sporty aesthetic I'm looking for. It looks beautiful and I am hearing mostly positive reviews on it. Hopefully in about a month and a half, I'll be able to actually give an opinion on it from a first time perspective!
Hands down the best review of this bike so far. Everything on bike. Incredible detail. Great knowledge. Great video. Great audio. To be honest dude, you've shamed the others. Top notch. I'd start a paper if I were you guys.
I tried it yesterday in Italy. I agree with you on everything. What is very important than any review is the feeling your body and your mind as with the bike. I felt just myself, even if the monitor is a little shitty and there we no electronic suspension. I felt alive anyway. That’s why I bought it.
What a sensible, sober and informative review. No lifestyle Stratocaster wailing away in the background. Just calmly delivered information. Thanks Bennetts!
If you know what your are doing then you can pretty much have fun on any bike. However there’s so much more fun to be had on a smaller CC bike than a bigger one. I pretty much followed in the usual direction of a new rider. Started small and then worked my way up but once I got out of that stigma and branched my experience, man what a difference. I sold my big bikes got an adventure bike and a CFmoto 450ss and let me tell you, that 450 is a blast. I’ll most likely never go to a bigger cc sport bike again. Too much work and I’ll admit im no Rossi so I’ll never be able to use that bike to its full limit. However the speed I lack in the straight I can make up in the corners do I don’t have any issue keeping up with my friends. We are definitely back in the 80’s with all these brands making middle weight bikes with a ton of character. I’m all for it and I think it’ll suet a lot of riders as well. Sweet review of the new 660🤙🏼
Excellent review. Martin leaves no stone unturned and has the experience to back up his comments. Agree or disagree with him, he’s informative and entertaining from start to finish
I like your really sophisticated reviews!
Now that his one is in India, not launched yet but was fortunate enough to see this "DAYTONA " in flesh at a dealer point.
Waiting for the time to get hands on it.
Deep appreciation and respect for the sharing of the experiences,the judgement and the fun.
Really enjoyed the details of your review. Definitely spells out the capabilities of the bike.
Great overview Martin, well done…
I like the simple dash; would like analog clocks even better.
Yes! Keep the little tft for pertinent info, and replace the lcd with an analog tach & speedometer!
It’s the Dash for me that lets down the package a little bit ! Why didn’t they go for a full TFT ?! They’re calling it a “Daytona”🤨 Shouldn’t have cut the cost here
I'll take that dash, looks good to me and some of the TFTs work terribly and are unreadable at speed
Someone needs to sell " JAX 660 " graphics
Kept the price low, who cares about the dash when your ripping
@@TheLastCrankersWell most TFTs are great & are better to read during both day & night. That’s why they put them in their bikes. This Daytona dash reminds me of my ex’s scooters
I'm torn. A fancier dash like from the bigger Tigers or Street Triple would be nice, but its not really necessary. Its the same dash shared with the Trident and Tiger Sport 660, and with the features of the bike there's not much more you need. Unlike the bigger bikes in the lineup, there's not a lot of modes or customisation with these entry-level middleweights. You've got 2 or 3 modes that cycle with a button, and TC On/Off. That's it. You can scroll around and see oil temps and trip ODOs and stuff... but when you're riding your main info is readily available- Tachometer, Speed, Gear, Fuel, Time. Everything else is just shiny for the sake of being shiny, but doesn't really add anything when you're riding.
Now- if there were a lot more options for tech on these bikes like you get with Suzukis or Hondas or BMWs, or the bigger Triumph bikes, sure a fancy dash would be nice. If you had multiple TC levels, lots of modes, a user mode with customisation, etc... that's a lot of info you need to cycle thru and so a bigger dash is more useful. For these smaller bikes that are more about local commuting and fun, not touring or advanced track riding... they just don't have the tech to really require more from the dash.
I'm currently on a CFMOTO 300NK as a beginner bike, looking to upgrade to a Daytona 660 or Tiger 660 in the next year, and the 5" TFT on the 300NK is really nice. It's fancy. But honestly I don't use it for much. My main screen has Tach, Gear, Speed, Fuel, Time, Oil Temp, and two small optionals which I leave as ODO and Voltage. In sunlight that dash can get a bit washed out, and when I'm riding I'm not staring at it. I might look down to check my speed, or quickly see my revs. At a light I might check the time and my fuel... but really, I don't use the dash for much. So I don't feel like I'd be missing much "stepping down" to a Triumph LCD/TFT combo.
Impressive recall of specifications by the reviewer while riding. Lots of folks getting upset over calling it a Daytona. Does it matter?
Definitely the most informative review to date. It's amazing how you remembered all the details.
Excellent review. Every reviewer picked up on the same front end issue. This would be a deal breaker for me, but otherwise the bike is beautiful and the engine is great.
Great review, I’m sure triumph will bring out an RS model with upgraded suspension and geometry if the sales go well.
Now that's what I call a neck warmer! Excellent review too.
Excellent review !! It was nice NOT to have all the 'laddish' larking about. Just got down to the business of giving a sensible review.
Have said that, I still like the 44 Teeth type of review, but it's nice to have the 'sensible' review too.
Great review , thanks.
Ask Simon to put a shim on the shock to get more weight on the front wheel :-) The Daytona looks nice (from the front) and sounds amazing. Triumph really don't have a bad bike in their range!
Great review…great bike for the current market🔥Just the dash reminds me of my ex’s scooter!!Should’ve gone with a proper TFT like the one in their street triples
This and 44 Teeth's review are the ones to watch. This bike is going to sell well. I can't wait until it hits US shores.
I am riding gsxs1000f , had 2019 hayabusa prior to this and 2017 cbr650f prior to that.. Today, I feel 650cc is the best option, because you can actually use that power or can say enjoy that power on a daily basis, 1000cc bikes are a bit too much power for roads. This 660 should sell, coz it looks like a perfect mix of what a daily use or road riding bike should have. Mature riders will love this. I am also waiting for it's launch here in my country and if priced well, I might sell my gsxs1000f and buy this. Cbr650r and 650f were great bikes but the engine was too vibey. This looks a better clone of those. Triumph is on a roar with all it's recent launches.
Its a Daytona for the road and a bloody good one. If you want a lairy track bike, you do not buy this bike. But seriously, how many of us spend time on track days.
Triumph have another hit on their hands (and thats from a cbr owner !)
You have to press mode button in & then the up & down buttons in & main menu will come up & you can select Traction control on or off.
To select mode press mode button & select Road or Sport mode & dip the accelerator & coast on a straight without using the brakes for a few seconds & mode will swap to what you've selected this is how you do it on the Trident 🔱.When you turn bike off the modes will reset to normal which will be Road mode & Traction control on so you have to reset each time you start bike but can be done while bike is at idle as well.
Quick shifter is a must on these bikes so much better to ride.
its a great bike , just that the instrument cluster could have been a bit more modern , looks a bit old and also the ground clearance could have been a bit more high.
Best review I’ve seen for this bike! Would upgrading the suspension and lowering the front a bit fix the handling issues you mentioned?
I see this bike as a more reasonably priced Ducati Supersport. And, like the Ducati is also lacking cruise control. Great review.
This is exactly what I thought when I first saw the bike. Mind you, I've been considering both the Triumph Street Triple R & Ducati Supersport. Overall, I feel like this provides the compromise of both.
Thank you for this video, after Watching other Video (Which is the best middleweight sportsbike of 2024?) this videos is bang on. Great Knowledge, Correct details & Honest opinion. Simply Perfect Daytona 660 Review on UA-cam I feel! Cheers!
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You're very kind with the praise, this is what we're here to do: offer credible, quality, detailed information after a somewhat limited amount of time on the bike at a press launch. Realistically, we should rename these 'first impressions' but nobody searches for that!
All the best, Michael M
From a pure looks perspective, KTM and Aprilia have the best looking low CC sports bikes. The KTM RC 390 looks like a pure super bike!
I didn't like it when it was first announced. But more and more, I have come around to what the Daytona 660 is on it's own merits. I've been riding only a year and on my third bike. A 2009 GSX-R600. All my bikes have been used, so looking to get a bike new. Either to replace or as a 2nd to the GSX-R. That bike is quite exciting to ride and slowly becoming a classic. This new Daytona 660 is on my short list now for sure.
I don't know why Triumph didn't just call it the Triumph Trident 660RR. It has more DNA with it than the Daytona models of old. But I guess the name has more pulling power than Trident
The Daytona models of old were more like this new 660 and they had Trident variants, the 675 and limited 765 Moto 2 were the only exceptions. The older Daytona’s were also softer like this, more street friendly sport bikes…
Best dash for the 90s
Giving a z400 dashboard competition.
I'm curious if this bike is successful for them will they bring in faster iterations of the Daytona such as the 765? Only time will tell.
You can get a brand new 2024 Aprilia RS660 for £8599, dealer are giving discounts due to sales
There's 6700 USD 2023 KTM 790 near me .....
@@ellwoodwolf Good price
Unless you’re track riding it’s not really a better bike, and Aprillia’s tiny dealer network is a hard sell for us who live in more rural areas. There’s 3 Triumphs dealerships before I hit an Aprillia dealership in the radius where I live. In terms of straight line acceleration there’s already 3rd party data out, and the Daytona is significantly quicker than the RS660. 0-100 kmh- Daytona 660: 3.1 seconds. RS660- 3.9 seconds. 0-200 kmh- Daytona 660: 12 seconds flat. RS660: 14.4 seconds. To put into perspective the MT09 does 0-200 in 11.8 seconds, the Street Triple 765RS does it in 11.3 seconds, and the Z900 does it in 11.1 seconds. So the Daytona is definitely a quick bike in a straight line, as it’s not far off from the bigger “middleweights.” The RS660 obviously handles better and needs a lot less attention to the chassis so it’s a better track bike. But for 99% of street riders the Daytona is more than enough bike. A tire upgrade will help a lot on the Daytona…
In the US here. Rs 660 is about 12k here where the daytona is 9k.(before dealer fees for both). I would love a rs660 but can't justify paying 3ish K more for it not to mention my closest dealer for Aprilia is a about a 150 miles away.
RS660 went down in price for the 2024 models, and it is now just a bit more expensive than a Daytona, but you get a lot more bike for your money. It nukes this bike in every category, especially looks and weight.
The Aprilia is a good chunk lighter (around 20kg) and it does come with more tech (cruise, quickshifter, IMU), but having tested them both I think the Triumph has the better engine. UK dealers are advertising new RS660s for around £9300 - you pays your money, you takes your choice.
@@Mufga813 cylinder can be more to your liking, but straight up better?
In the US an RS660 is $2500 more. That’s a fair bit of money, granted it comes with a lot more. Also 3rd party acceleration times are out, the Triumph Daytona 660 did 0-100 kmh in 3.1 seconds and 0-200 kmh in 12 seconds flat. The RS660 took 3.9 seconds to 100 kmh, and to 200 kmh took 14.4 seconds. So in a straight line the triple powered Daytona takes the cake by a fair margin. Top speed is identical between 2 bikes, the Daytona just gets there quicker. The put into perspective the MT09 does 0-200 kmh in 11.8 seconds. So this Daytona is breathing down its neck. Triumph is notorious for underscoring their power figures so I’m curious to see stock dyno’s, and the Daytona has excellent gear ratios…
I must say, been enjoying the bike the week that I've had it.. I did try the aprilia, a fun bike but felt kinda not as well built? Couldn't find neutral, and already the test bike made me worry about reliability.. the Daytona feels solid in comparison
@@rajeshrameswaran Earlier years had issues, that is why I waited this long to get one. For some reason (at least on my bike) it is easier to click down from 2nd into neutral than from 1st up into neutral. It is weird, but at least it is consistent. :D
Great review. Thanks. Been reading up a lot on this bike as bike no three. With and Akra exhaust it will sound Amasing and maybe become a 100hp bike. Enough for me.
And dare I say… you look a bit like Swedens Minister of Civil Defence, Carl-Oskar Bohlin. Nice beard man
Handsome chap
I have owned a number of Daytona’s over the years. Triumph need to Offer this incarnation of the Daytona in yellow with improved suspension (for a few hundred quid more) and this would be sweet.
Exactly. Triumph made a nice, sporty road bike, rather than a track bike people use on the road. Kind of like using chainsaw to cut your chicken. There is mass confusion in motorcycling that everything should react like light switch. Thing is, sportbikes ridden at track speeds, they were designed to modulate linearly. They only operate like light switches at low speeds where they were never designed to be ridden. Road bikes should modulate linearly at lower speed road riding, which it sounds exactly like this one does.
I will also mention that an engine making linear (straight line up and to the right) power will result in a flat torque curve. It's math. Look at an electric motor as an example of what an ICE engine should be trying to accomplish.
The power is the salient part, but not the peak power marketing nonsense. The power across the rev range. If you summed up all that power over the rev range, you would get the engine's total power delivery. Oddly, mechanical engineers have yet to figure this out, hence we get peak power marketing nonsense.
Torque is not something different from power. You engine burns gas. The rate at which that energy is converted to heat is the power produced. It doesn't magically turn from torque to power at some point along the rev range. In a rotational system, the power creates some ratio of torque to rotational speed. It's based on the gearing. In first gear, you get a lot of torque and little speed. Think peddling a bike in first gear. The gear makes it easy to peddle for you to climb a hill, but it comes at the expense of having to peddle like hell to go fast enough to keep the bike from falling over. 10th gear is just the opposite. You get very low torque to the wheel and it becomes very hard for the power from your Wheaties to peddle, but you don't have to peddle very fast to go fast once you have some momentum.
In any event, race bikes can have engines that develop a ton of power high in the rev range, because on a track, they can be kept spinning high in the rev range where it can be used. On a road bike, you want linear power delivery where the power can be used over a much broader area of the rev range.
Oddly, motorcycle engineers know a lot more about what they're doing than most UA-cam reviewers, but you impressed me. You are one of the few who figured it out.
Looked like you had a lot of fun on the road's in Spain!
Great video , have you riden the other 650,s how wpuld ypu stack this against the honda and suski?
Great review! Great engine. Hate the dash, looks cheap without much information and the frame covers are a try-on. Your comments on handling are really interesting. Some say the suspension is too soft and the bike dives if you brake hard and squats of you accelerate hard, unsettling riding. Maybe underdamped for a rough B road. Did you experience that?
That wasn't my impression. It didn't seem too soft to me - but then I wasn't riding as fast as some of the other Brits. Entirely possible that if you're a very experienced, really fast rider you might find it too soft. If you are, and if you do, then this isn't the bike for you - there's a 765RS elsewhere in Triumph's range for that.
@@Mufga81 Thanks for responding. The comment I saw was certainly from one of the quicker journos in the sector.
Wow a review of this bike on it's own merits rather then one in the shadow of it's wonderful but far more expensive predisposes - which didn't sell in profitably numbers. This is in the tradition of the first Daytona; which was simply a T100 with twin carbs, hotter "Q" cams and a close ratio trans which made a T100R with Daytona decals. Bet it dose well against other 10k entry level sports bikes. However, a true replacement for the wonderful 675 would be great to see!
It looks nice and the price is very attractive. Non adjustable suspension and no std quickshifter is a bit odd given it’s meant to be a “kind of” sports bike but I expect it wasn’t possible at the price. Problem is it’s basically no better than a Trident or Tiger Sport with less practicality and a more cramped and uncomfortable riding position, and it costs more. The state of our roads, volume of traffic and speed enforcement aren’t what they were in the ‘90s so I wonder what use this sort of bike will be on today’s roads?
A landslide of Daytona 660 videos right after they have recalled tridents and tiger 660 for fork caps breaking off.... Look up this recall, also right on the tail of the triple speed 1200 engine overheating recall - NOT GOOD.
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Not breaking off, and a total of maybe 100 bikes across both models. Still not good, but rather minor really.
You are correct. This bike will sell.
I wonder what the handling would do if you drop the front forks a centimeter.
An extra 20 quid a month would get you the new CBR600rr. I know what id buy.
Right now it's 200 USD than a new mt-09sp and gsxs1000 , and more than a new KTM 790, mt-09, xsr900 ( most 2023) and 8r ( the Suzuki are 2024)
@@ellwoodwolf Yep , the Daytona is more than the standard Z900 and the same as an MT09 where I live. Or a GSX S1000 on a deal. All way quicker and arguably handles better. The GSX certainly does.
What are you guys on about? I just talked to a dealer today. Here are the numbers. Where I live a Z900 ABS is $9,899. The MT09 is $10,599. The Daytona 660 is $9,195. So no, it’s not more expensive… it’s cheaper. And in terms of straight line performance it’s slower sure, but barely. 3rd party test results are as follows.
Z900: 0-100 kmh: 3.1 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 11.1 seconds.
MT09: 0-100 kmh: 3.1 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 11.8 seconds.
Daytona 660: 0-100 kmh: 3.1 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 12.0 seconds. So it’s nearly as quick…
We don’t have the new CBR600RR here. But here’s the new CBR650R since it’s the number 1 competitor. Price: $9,899. Acceleration: 0-100 kmh: 3.4 seconds. 0-200 kmh: 16.2 seconds. So the Daytona 660 is a lot quicker than its main competitor, and it’s the cheapest…
Yeah, there is room for improvement, but it's a fun sporty "street bike" not a track bike, it's good value for money and as far as the name goes most folk won't care! Personally, I like naked bikes, I have the trident 660, which I think is great. Would trade it for a trident 660 if/when they put this Daytona engine in it. Thank you for the video.
I hope Triumph make a street triple 765 with a half fairing and upright bars ,it would be a useful bike surely,but what would they call it ?
This is making my next bike decision harder 😂 daytona 660, cbr650r, cb650r or the zx4rr? Got a lot of bikes to test ride 😅
You should keep an eye out for our next group test which includes two from your list plus two other models!
Would it make a good pseudo sports-tourer? Or a daily commuter with 2-up riding once in a while?
This bike would have absolutely shattered the competition if it had
1. Aluminium frame and weighed 10-12 kgs less
2. Adjustable front suspension
3. Full color TFT display that they have on street triple.
I’m currently looking at getting a new 600ish sports bike and have tried CBR650R (not a 24 model ) GSX8R and RS660, when the Daytona is available at my local dealer I’m going to give it a spin but up to now I fancy the CBR650R e clutch when it arrives, I didn’t find the GSX8R anywhere as comfortable or nice to ride and the RS660 is an absolute weapon but again just doesn’t feel as good as the Honda, as a bit of background I’m 52 and have preferred twins rather than fours so it’s been a surprise to me to prefer the CBR.
The Daytona has a very similar rider triangle to the CBR650R, they’re basically identical. I have a rider triangle overlay of both those bikes. So you’ll probably like the Daytona in terms of ergonomics feel. I think I’m going to put a deposit down on one myself.
what I could understand is Triumph should have brought Street Triple 765 R , instead of 765 RS it should have been Daytona 765 , because if not for the Racing oriented Tuning on the RS they should have made it an upgraded Daytona 765 making it a worthy return of the Prodigal Son. Triumph wouldn't have even needed a Moto 2 Version as well if Daytona 765 would have made it to the mass market
How is the riding position compared to the Thruxton RS? Do you have any measurements concerning riding position? I loved my RS but I’m 65 years and a little stift here and there 😂. Thank you for very good information of the bike. The new Daytona is a real beauty, especially in red or white 🥰
I have numbers comparing Trident ergonomics to Daytona, but not to Thruxton. It's been a while since I last rode a Thruxton, but from memory I think the Daytona's ergonomics felt a touch more upright and relaxed. The Daytona's definitely an all-day riding position.
The Daytona’s riding position is pretty much the same as a CBR650R. Not sure if you have sat on one of those or not… semi aggressive, but still fairly comfortable…
I thought this was a watered down piece of shit not worthy of the Daytona name… but then I test driven one a few days ago… now I want one.
Not a supersports bike, but it is a damn good bike… not slow at all… and very easy to drive for something this fast … reckon it will do 0 to 100 km/h just over 3 seconds, meaning it will give a ZX-6R a run for it’s money up to 100 km/h …. acceleration only falls short compared to ZX-6R after 100 km/h.
I am a ZX-6R owner but that bike is not something I want to drive every day. This Daytona 660 is good for every day at any time and i do not mind loosing some of the ZX-6R too end rush. The 660 weighs more than my ZX-6R but feels much lighter and easier to drive in town.
Looks nice but I'll take the street triple thanks.
looks great for my second bike list.if power would have been around 120 hp and torque around 100 nm would have been perfect.well everyone's perfect is different.
Sounds like you want a Yamaha R9...
@@Mufga81 yes but with a comfy riding position like this 660
@@BALJEETsingh-ur5cl XSR900GP, perhaps?
@@Mufga81 yes a good option but sadly not available in India
Martin, what gear are you wearing? I’ve been on the hunt for a jacket like that.
My jacket here is an old (now discontinued) RST GT. I think the closest equivalent today would be their S-1. Hope that helps.
Aww I’m sure Chrissy Rouse would have been here if he was still with us. You’re still sorely missed bud, Rest in Peace xx
Is this bike compfortable on 5 hour rides though? It seems already perfect...
I finished almost 700 Kms in a week.. no soreness at all. Very comfy
@@rajeshrameswaran wow that's awesome! Though I am around 6,1 so still not sure if the ergos would fit....
@@classicalimproviser407 I'm around 5'10 ISH, 176 cms
Pass. Why make a full fairing bike that gets stomped out by my 765 rs striple. Big letdown by triumph
They really messed up on the tail, the rest of the bike looks great though.
I'd not noticed until I saw your comment but you're right.
Too short I think, kinda like the cbr650r. Stubby tail works on the naked but seems wrong on a sports bike
Looks great might buy one if I get a good trade on my tiger
@@john-wq8kf it's certainly a looker. Love the Carnival Red
Someone said it looks like. Kawasaki 650 ninja - and I can't unsee it.... And bland colors...
Triumph is going to be selling a lot of these in the USA since Honda pulled the 2024 Honda CBR650R from the market.
They should have designed in better handling. You can see that it’s not a great handling bike in every review video…
Top speed final?👀
Didn't have the chance to test it at the launch, but the gearing suggests a top speed of around 135mph // 220kph
Triumph has instructed all reviewers not to show both headlights of the bike 😂. They themselves know that this bike is one eyed. That's a shame in 2024, when cbr650r and Ninja 400 have beautiful headlights that are both ON at the same time. Plus, this ugly dash has been recycled several times. I can't believe even the new Street triple R has same dash.
It's cost isn't far behind the Aprilia rs and Tuono. How does it compare?
They are way better than this one.. And look better...
They are way better than this one and look better...
Depends where you are. In the US it’s a $2500 difference. And in a straight line the Daytona is quicker. 3rd party test results- Daytona 660: 0-100 kmh in 3.1 second and 0-200 kmh in 12 seconds flat. RS660: 0-100 kmh in 3.9 seconds and 0-200 kmh in 14.4 seconds. That’s pretty significant considering an MT09 is 3.1 seconds 0-100 kmh and 0-200 kmh in 11.8 seconds… Top speeds are identical. So the Daytona is quicker. The only real advantage the RS660 has is on track, but 99% of normal street riders couldn’t max a Daytona on the track, let alone an RS660…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 do you really think on road Daytona 660 is better than rs660? You drive only in straight road? No corners? You don't use brake? Aprilia is a much better bike overall. And of course is more expensive. And looks great, this Daytona is ugly...
@@ciuffoarancione8929 99% of riders could NOT max ride the Daytona to its absolute limit, that’s a fact. Machine has a much higher limit than the operator generally… the Daytona’s brakes are quite good, the only real let downs is the unadjustable suspension and the stock tires aren’t the greatest. Other than that, for a STREET bike, it’s an excellent rig. Especially for how cheap it is. Of course you get more with an Aprillia, but it also costs $2500 more… and having fully adjustable suspension is not necessary for a street application. And no, I live in the very rural northeast, it’s all hills and mountains where I live…
Using the name Daytona on the 660 is on the same level with Yamaha naming their R7... R7.
Good review, nice bike, it does have some stiff competition.
I haven't sat on a Daytona yet, but I think Suzuki 8r is slightly warmer Luke warm bike
Can you change that ugly dash with speed triples?
I’d rather spend £4000 on the Rainey XSR900 GP.
Three years time only one will be holding it’s value.
How many times did you hit the indicator button off? 😂
It's an unconscious nervous twitch I've developed over 25 years of riding. Sorry if it detracted or distracted.
@@Mufga81 yeah, I'm exactly the same, got self cancelling indicators too 🤣🤣🤣👍
Does not looks good... Rs 660 or tuono factory 660 are way better..
Ahh, that's interesting. I love the Aprilia 660, but think the Triumph wins it for me. It looks meaner. I like the angry look on the front of the Datona.
should have called trident rs
Hello CBR600RR.
The Daytona 675R had all the character of a best-in-breed creation: sublime chassis, steel braided brake lines, Brembo calipers, Ohlins suspension., quickshifter. The Daytona 660, on the other hand, shows all the signs of being built to a budget. That’s why it should have been called something else. Maybe the Triumph Meh
Buy a 2024 ZX-6R.
forget this bike. go straight to the 765RS and add a fairing. Much better option IMO. And if you want a true Daytona get a used one.
An R will do the trick. Not much more....
Ah yes, just order up a fairing from the fairing store for my 765 instead! Why didn't I think of that? Does it attach with duct tape or bubblegum?
@@FatherOBlivion 🤣 The Street Triple R is a better bike tho...
In name alone …
Call it what it is JACKSONVILLE 660.
This is middleweight sportbike 0.5. While the Rs660 is the 1.0 because it does both the road/sport thing pretty well. This bike only does half. hence the 0.5 just like the suzuki.
The Suzuki handles better. Where I live you can get a Street Triple for the price of an RS660 and that does everything better. The RS 660 list prices is the same as an Street Triple RS and discounted price the same as the R.
@@paulconnell1309 the street triple and the RS660 are not in the same category. That should being compared to the tuono, not the Rs660