I really like the new way of showing off every unit in the beginning with all the smoke and the models all posed up. Definitely helps the viewer keep track of all the player’s units.
Thousand Sons is pretty much not possible to win with at 1500 points so I would expect not unless they have 2k battle reports. Due to the way cabal points work and the importance of magnus and their crazy high point costs.
He’s like 1-7 … the only win I can recall was against Steve and involved Magnus killing a land raider in melee. Then they both exploded and killed like an additional 200-300 pts of Steve’s army.
How can the Sagitaur have both an Autocannon AND a Missile Launcher? I've been going through the rules and I can't find anything anywhere that allows this
He made a mistake that I once made too, because the Hekaton landfortress has the MATR autocannon on there as a bonus weapon and thus you think all the vehicles do. It happens.
@@clin1calgaming792 I'm glad I've not missed something at least been collecting Votann since they released and been playing a few games with them recently and I had a sickening feeling that I'd missed something in a dataslate that could've saved me in a few recent games 😆
I thought the Sagitaur could have the missle launcher OR the MATR autocannon. How is JT able to have both? I started building Votann recently and will take as many guns as I can get lol
Loved this one! Having looked back, I don’t recall disciples of Tzeentch ever winning a match on play on, but I’m always sure rooting for them! They have such an awesome history!
@MubinTalati That's awesome. I didn't know that! You guys are imo the best channel for bat reps. What a great format to fit them into 40-minute videos. Keep it up!
Just as a constructive comment, the twin bolt canons of the hekatons have twin linked. And you also have another 6 shots at S7 AP-1 and damage 2 with the Matr autocannon
I’m new to 40k and I’m currently building my death guard/Nurgle army! I have a question tho, can you use an undivided daemon like bel’lakor allied with death guard army?
29:53 Why does JT say he gets the sustained hits d3 on the 5? Thunderkyn get to hit on 5+ during Fire Overwatch, but the rules commentary specifically calls out "When resolving attacks using the Fire Overwatch Stratagem, Critical Hits are only ever scored on unmodified Hit rolls of 6." 32:59 Mubin jumps from 0 Command Points up to 2. Did he discard a secondary at the end of his turn and it just wasn't shown?
Really liked this video! So close! So good! I also really liked the addition of the scoring secondary cards added to the scoring board at the end of a turn in the round, helps keep track of points for the viewer, nice!
Thousand sons at 1500 don't get the full benefit of cabal points they are balanced around and voltan getting 4 judgement tokens. Just asking for a poorly balanced game.
As always, YOU GUYS ROCK. The content and production value is so good you should be hired by GW themselves. With that said... the cabal ability that removes armor saves is TWIST OF FATE and costs 9 cabal points. I mention this because Mubin says "2 cabal points". He might have had 9 cabal points and then my comment is moot.
Competitive Meta: Win the Prize, Lose the Flavor - I much prefer your guys' takes on assembling and playing the game, a great combination of tactics while also still having fun and experimenting with different method and models.
Either Mubin sucks, Ksons suck, or Mubin sucks at ksons and their playstyle isnt for him. Time for him to pick a different army so He might actually win...
At 12:00 JT shot with the sagitaurs L7 missle system and Matr Autocannon, when they can't both be equipped? I'm new to Votann, but I don't think that's allowed.
Hey guys! Just a heads up, in the first turn of Votann shooting the Sagitaur should both a MATR Autocannon and the missile launchers when it would only have one of those two options.
I’m almost done getting my star dragons painted, I’m available this summer I hope I can come up and play a battle report. Genestealer cult versus star dragons
I'm glad I could change your mind. I think I've finally gotten a knack for list building in 10th and 2024 I'm gonna show up swinging. I have an interesting Tyranid list I'd like to try as well
thank you, guys, for a great game from both JT and Mubin for the record i think the game was over for Mubin when JT said diggy diggy hole jk Mubin and i would be open for a rematch and now that i am almost caught up after running through all your Warhammer 40k games on this channel i have a question about the deck of cards you guys use for secondary and for your army's use as with my orks getting a codex soon and my time sometimes being open on Sunday's again so i can play Warhammer again how do you make the cards with all your units information and how do i get that deck you guys draw your secondary's from thanks for any help in this matter and again thanks for a great game
The deck for secondaries is actually the Leviathan Match play deck that's available. As for the unit cards there are Index and codex card packs available. For the Index armies you can actually download and print your own. Codex cards you will end up having to buy
At this point we need someone else to play TSons cuz I’ve only seen muban win one time years ago. No hate to the guy, hard fought game, but the powers of the warp at his disposal and my mans is only doing party tricks
love the game, but could we pleae get to see a 2k game with black templars / necrons / eldary ? they are the top 3 unit IMO for competitive play and would love to see you guys play it!
What an absolute war! Lined every second of this. Do feel for Mubin though I'm fairly new to the channel and haven't seen him be victorious yet. Love the energy the guys always bring and tycho on comms was excellent❤
great game, and great dice rolls for the attacks. Well done. a note. the rhino does not have the Psychic keyword so it cannot fire psychic weapons with the firing deck
Soo, I really thought that you can´t use Echoes from the warp to get the re-roll stratagem for free. It´s Battle tactic, ok, but the last balance dataslate clearly says that the target has to be one unit, and in this case the re-roll strat has no target, because the target is the dice thrown, not the unit. Anyone?
Very fun, diggy diggy hole! Just a heads up, not sure if its the bgm or the audio but there were some really high pitched squeels in the background of the audio that were quiet but hurt the ears.
I really like the new way of showing off every unit in the beginning with all the smoke and the models all posed up. Definitely helps the viewer keep track of all the player’s units.
Agreed. In some of the older videos it's hard knowing not only what units are used but even then point cost of the game.
FOR KAHL!
killing that center objective and the look on JT's face to "does he explode" was priceless
That truly was an amazing moment
That was hilarious.
ROCK AND STONE! TO THE BONE!
YOU AINT COMMING HOME, IF YOU DONT ROCK AND STONE!
FOR KARL!!!!!!!!
DO I HEAR A ROCK N STONE?!
ROCK AND STONE YOU BEAUTIFUL DWARF!
ROCK AND STONE!
Not Rubric marines, they are called MUBRIC MARINES
As a Thousand Sons fan, and as much as I love these videos, can someone please tell me if Mubin has ever won with the psyker bois haha
Thousand Sons is pretty much not possible to win with at 1500 points so I would expect not unless they have 2k battle reports. Due to the way cabal points work and the importance of magnus and their crazy high point costs.
He’s like 1-7 … the only win I can recall was against Steve and involved Magnus killing a land raider in melee. Then they both exploded and killed like an additional 200-300 pts of Steve’s army.
Pretty sure he never won. that's okay, we love him anyway
You have a small but dedicated following, Mubin! ALL IS DUST!
Tzaangors not working fine I guess XD
God I swear mubin fails with thousand sons every time
Has mubin EVER won with those thousand sons ?? 🤦♂️ I’m about 6 vids deep now
28:48
Their sanity, JT and Mubin being super funny there, nice! 😂
This game was so freaking cool.
I laughed so hard at that last "Does he explode?" lol
Me too!!!
Let me guess before I finsh the video mubin lost lol
What a great game! Loved the gun sound effects too - love to see JT play his dwarves
Hoping to see some more Chaos Daemons gameplay on the channel!
I came here to say this!
Does he explode?
JT: whaattt huuhhh? *face of "oh god"* wait a sec....
I would love to Mubin’s thousand sons vs Tyco’s deathguard. Nurgle vs Tzeentch!
We definitely should it's been a while since we had that match up
"Does he explode?"
JT turned into that Kurt Angle stare meme there for a second that was comedy gold
It was said 1500 points but both army lists shown say 2000 points; not sure which one is the error but just a heads up
😃
the 2000 points is in reference to Strike Force which is the game mode we played at but only used 1500 points
@@MubinTalati Ah good stuff, thank you for the clarification! I don’t play myself, only paint, but love watching your guys videos
@@Dasein1 No problem! Glad to be of help!
What a weird thing to care about 😅
What a weird thing to care about commenting how weird it is to care about @@Whoknows21356 😅
Muben never wins lmao
OMG! I had no idea sorcerous shenanigans fighting industrial dwarves was SO AMAZINGLY ENTERTAINING!
I love that you show clearer which units are played and which objectives are scored. It really helps to understand the armies at the start.
Muben still can’t get a win. And I was pulling for you big time :(
This has pushed me to collect Votann
"Fails to hurt the Terminators buttplugs three Rubric Marines!" is probably not what they meant but it's what I heard
bro lol these units look amazing and then there's just this blue brick rhino hahahha what happened?
cool game per usual though, always fun to watch
12:26 sagitar can have or missile launcher or matr autocannon. How you get them both? :-)
Honestly two of my favorite factions alongside tyranids
How can the Sagitaur have both an Autocannon AND a Missile Launcher? I've been going through the rules and I can't find anything anywhere that allows this
yeah, he had 2 turret weapons when it allows for 1
He made a mistake that I once made too, because the Hekaton landfortress has the MATR autocannon on there as a bonus weapon and thus you think all the vehicles do. It happens.
@@clin1calgaming792 I'm glad I've not missed something at least been collecting Votann since they released and been playing a few games with them recently and I had a sickening feeling that I'd missed something in a dataslate that could've saved me in a few recent games 😆
@@spicymchaggisjig1294 you have the twin boltguns in the front though,so yay. And the sagitaur is great and is def getting nerfed haha
I thought the Sagitaur could have the missle launcher OR the MATR autocannon. How is JT able to have both? I started building Votann recently and will take as many guns as I can get lol
Love the way the Votann are painted!
Loved this one! Having looked back, I don’t recall disciples of Tzeentch ever winning a match on play on, but I’m always sure rooting for them! They have such an awesome history!
Im glad to see Mubin is a regular on the channel now! Fun player to watch with the rest of the playon team.
I've actually been a member of the team and editor for our e exclusive content for over a year now!
@MubinTalati That's awesome. I didn't know that! You guys are imo the best channel for bat reps. What a great format to fit them into 40-minute videos. Keep it up!
Finally moobin does well off the start 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉roll more 6s
Has Mubin ever won a game??? 😢😢😢
Just as a constructive comment, the twin bolt canons of the hekatons have twin linked. And you also have another 6 shots at S7 AP-1 and damage 2 with the Matr autocannon
These aren't Rubric Marines, They're Mubric Marines!!! lol
Go Votan! And please do blood angels soon.
When I play 1500 Points I only judge 3 units at the beginning, seems more fair.
YOU CAN DO IT MUBINATOR USE THE BALDNESS TO BLIND JT
I’m new to 40k and I’m currently building my death guard/Nurgle army! I have a question tho, can you use an undivided daemon like bel’lakor allied with death guard army?
Sadly no but you can use daemon princes
ROCK AND STONE IN THE HEART!!!!
addendum: WE'RE RICH! WE'RE RICH! WE'RE RICH!
YOU AIN'T COMING HOME IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE!!!
: for Votann
29:53 Why does JT say he gets the sustained hits d3 on the 5? Thunderkyn get to hit on 5+ during Fire Overwatch, but the rules commentary specifically calls out "When resolving attacks using the Fire Overwatch Stratagem, Critical Hits are only ever scored on unmodified Hit rolls of 6."
32:59 Mubin jumps from 0 Command Points up to 2. Did he discard a secondary at the end of his turn and it just wasn't shown?
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!?!?
Really liked this video!
So close! So good!
I also really liked the addition of the scoring secondary cards added to the scoring board at the end of a turn in the round, helps keep track of points for the viewer, nice!
I dig the Yogscast reference. Jaffa cake coloured dwarves too, nice!
Dag. Where in the world did you find the Vortex Beast. I've been looking for one over a year. 😂
Lucky 2nd hand lots on Facebook
Love the content! Keep it up!!
BROTHERS OF THE MINE REJOICE!!
Missed some Mortal Wounds on the charge with the Champ on your first turn JT!
Thousand sons at 1500 don't get the full benefit of cabal points they are balanced around and voltan getting 4 judgement tokens. Just asking for a poorly balanced game.
I mean... it's GW, this is what they do, completly unbalanced games
@@martividal4534 true it just seems a little off to not reduce the tokens down
As always, YOU GUYS ROCK. The content and production value is so good you should be hired by GW themselves.
With that said... the cabal ability that removes armor saves is TWIST OF FATE and costs 9 cabal points. I mention this because Mubin says "2 cabal points". He might have had 9 cabal points and then my comment is moot.
I think that might be something we track a little more clearly for future games
Competitive Meta: Win the Prize, Lose the Flavor - I much prefer your guys' takes on assembling and playing the game, a great combination of tactics while also still having fun and experimenting with different method and models.
Super game wow ! GG
We have all been there when they cripple your best unit right off the bat haha I felt that pain when the battle bus went down.
Hey look. My 2 armys
Either Mubin sucks, Ksons suck, or Mubin sucks at ksons and their playstyle isnt for him. Time for him to pick a different army so He might actually win...
They really just beat the hell out of each other, didn't they.
I have basically this exact list waiting to be built. Good to know it’s got play on’s endorsement!
At 12:00 JT shot with the sagitaurs L7 missle system and Matr Autocannon, when they can't both be equipped? I'm new to Votann, but I don't think that's allowed.
ROCK AND STONE
Hey guys! Just a heads up, in the first turn of Votann shooting the Sagitaur should both a MATR Autocannon and the missile launchers when it would only have one of those two options.
Very good production value today . Fun viewing
9:53
Is JT split firing? 😏😂
To think we'd see the day!
damn what a nice round !!!!
Must see: JT Votann vs Nick GSC. Both miners, but very different tactics.
17:15 this testimonial shows the reason JT is my favorite. He’s just so fun to listen to
PS I love all y’all don’t worry :3
32:12 Hey all rules question! I'm pretty new :)
How do the terminators shoot through the ruins? Is it indirect fire or are they just able to do it?
I’m almost done getting my star dragons painted, I’m available this summer I hope I can come up and play a battle report. Genestealer cult versus star dragons
I know i've been ragging on Mubin for his consistant losses....but holy crap what a game. I've decided not to throw away the mubin win tally just yet.
I'm glad I could change your mind. I think I've finally gotten a knack for list building in 10th and 2024 I'm gonna show up swinging. I have an interesting Tyranid list I'd like to try as well
@@MubinTalati hey...its the real mubin...neat
@@MubinTalati oh dang the real deal replies...and is gonna use my fave army? You maybe down on wins on the table, but you just won a fan.
@@Vysethebunny I make it a personal mission to try and be in all the live premiere chats and reply to comments of videos I'm in
Even if Thousand Sons didnt win the army is so freaking awesome, really fun to play and does a bucket full of damage
Is this a new Mic almost didn’t recognize Tycho’s voice as narrorator.
Tzaan..gars? Huh, didn’t know Tzeentch was also a fish guy
Anyone know what paints/ colours used on the Votann? Love that shade of Orange.
One of the best battle report channels. The good narrators are my favorite and they keep me interested, feels like a televised sporting event
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS - oh wrong Karl Franz
Dwarves vs. Transhuman Wizards, let's go!!
Anyone know what the terrain pieces with the large fans are (the ones like the two middle pieces)
This was a fun matchup. Thanks for another great episode.
ROCK AND STONE, OR Your not coming home!
So Where is the 1500 points? was that in terms of battle damage?
JT likes Votann because he kinda looks like one of them... ;)
wild how the ksons list is just a 2k point list but without magnus
Actually my 2k list is slightly different. No tzaangors no terminators and some daemon allies
Those tentacle bases are soooo good!
Tentacle bases are courtesy of Art W studios and the Tsons Combat Patrol they did for us
Movement phase? ❌️
Mubin phase! ✅️
I’m still new to 40K, but I was wondering, are both armies in a game at exactly 1500 points? Or is it more so around 1500?
we played with a 1500 point limit so that means we had 1500 or slightly under but not over 1500 points
Yeah, it can be a pain to get an army to exactly the point limit. It ususally ends up a bit off.
37:05
BRO 😂😂😂😂
Have we had a Votann v Genestealer Cults yet? Feel like that could be a fun match up! Judgement versus Pings! ping, ping, ping PING! "Game over man!"
Is Exalted Sorcerer on Desk a bit or a Canadian vowel merger I didn't know about? No hate; I get a real kick out of it each time.
It’s a bit. The model is modified to have a desk and keyboard and monitor floating around him.
@@PlayOnTabletop wow, completely missed it watching on my tiny screen here. Love it. Great match
Man such a lets swap sides of the board match.
thank you, guys, for a great game from both JT and Mubin for the record i think the game was over for Mubin when JT said diggy diggy hole jk Mubin and i would be open for a rematch and now that i am almost caught up after running through all your Warhammer 40k games on this channel i have a question about the deck of cards you guys use for secondary and for your army's use as with my orks getting a codex soon and my time sometimes being open on Sunday's again so i can play Warhammer again how do you make the cards with all your units information and how do i get that deck you guys draw your secondary's from thanks for any help in this matter and again thanks for a great game
The deck for secondaries is actually the Leviathan Match play deck that's available. As for the unit cards there are Index and codex card packs available. For the Index armies you can actually download and print your own. Codex cards you will end up having to buy
At this point we need someone else to play TSons cuz I’ve only seen muban win one time years ago. No hate to the guy, hard fought game, but the powers of the warp at his disposal and my mans is only doing party tricks
love the game, but could we pleae get to see a 2k game with black templars / necrons / eldary ? they are the top 3 unit IMO for competitive play and would love to see you guys play it!
Thunderkyn beams seem like they should be good, but AP-1 is just not good... So hard to not just bring Grav :(
What an absolute war! Lined every second of this. Do feel for Mubin though I'm fairly new to the channel and haven't seen him be victorious yet. Love the energy the guys always bring and tycho on comms was excellent❤
The SQUATS WON FUCK YEAH!!
Lmao! He made a wind rose reference! That’s awesome.
I think you mean a Yogscast reference
And Tycho wins again... as the new voice of PlayOn! GO TYCHO!
great game, and great dice rolls for the attacks. Well done. a note. the rhino does not have the Psychic keyword so it cannot fire psychic weapons with the firing deck
Another Great video! Can you play world eaters soon?, their my favourite faction :)
Soo, I really thought that you can´t use Echoes from the warp to get the re-roll stratagem for free. It´s Battle tactic, ok, but the last balance dataslate clearly says that the target has to be one unit, and in this case the re-roll strat has no target, because the target is the dice thrown, not the unit. Anyone?
End of first round, did you forget about the Einhyr champion's mass driver accelerators ability?
Very fun, diggy diggy hole!
Just a heads up, not sure if its the bgm or the audio but there were some really high pitched squeels in the background of the audio that were quiet but hurt the ears.
Great video as usual - but that music was a bit loud (especially in the first half!)👍🏻