Great game and great video as usually from the team at Play On! We had an absolute blast being on the show. We can’t wait to do it again sometime…PLAY ON!!
True, it might have been a more tight match should he get a wee bit better rolls and Nick not pulling those heavenly rolls on some instances (LF overwatch and Champion saves were just oof)
@radekpazdera4560 I don't know man. I agree with you mostly but I run Custodes and can tell you 3 things for sure. 1st is that his list was a 9th edition list. 2nd is Nicks rolls were stupid good. 3rd is that Votann are hella hard to fight for Custodes unless you build a list specifically for handling an army that excels against elite armies.
@@FnRenner I do not have experoence playing against Votann but those Hearthkyn seemed to be very hard counter for sure. Amd eell yeah Volkite weapons and since DW changed and half of Custodes faction rule is almost useless - there are not that many sources of MW now (you could also see that in game where Custodes get chatged and get the MW and guys like "mortal wounds I have thing for that"
@@sirseacow4514 That's intentional by design. Removing armored vehicles is meant to be their exploitable flaw to balance the army 'Rock - Paper - Scissor' style. That and being super expensive point-wise to make the hard to fail saves very costly when they do. It's a better position to be in than Necrons, imo. They also suck at removing armored vehicles. But they don't have universal invuln saves and 2+/3+ saves army wide. They have to rely on a gimmick that can be circumvented entirely. lol
Just takes practice. Between Warhammer Fantasy Battle, 40k, and Kings of War, I have something like 23 armies (playing since 1993). Plus, 40k 10th is really easy. Frankly it’s a bit too easy
I feel like Votan are the natural counter to Custodes cause the custodes have so few units that the entire army ends up with double judgment tokens easily
As a custodian player, it’s honestly hard to play when you’re outnumbered but that’s how it is. We hit hard and kill damn well in melee but man, you never wanna take first turn imo.
It's hard to play when you construct an awful army list and then deploy your vehicles in the middle of the board, and charge into melee with saggitarum, etc etc. Baffling decisions top to bottom from this custodes player.
To be fair, he said he doesn't play Custodes, and I would probably do the same things he's done. Custodes are known for great melee and just not dyeing, so mistakes like his are understandable for new to Custodes players@@TheSearinoxx
@@benpeterson6097 Late to the party: while you are correct; it's still a lot of bad decisions. Not only are the bikes quite bad, given their only advantage is speed, putting them in the middle of the board is just bad 40k wether you play adMec, custodes, tyranids or anything. Keep them out of sight and move them where they need to be when they need to. The rest of the list also was kinda meh but mostly, the allarus or dreads should have been sent on those tanks ASAP. Your wardens or guards can take care of everything else, or at least not die while doing it; but only the big guys can take care of those tanks. All in all, some bad decisions and a lot of bad roll against your worst meta enemy leads to a difficult fight; which may still have been a great game :)
I guess Nick did end up playing someone he got into the hobby. And right after he played the guy who brought him into the hobby. Wonder if they planned that?
What i love the most about these games is the fact you dont take meta lists. Your not afraid to try something different. Nick and that Votann were awesome and really have me thinking about bringing a 3rd warrior unit when i normally ony use 2. Also no sagitaur either and that is a staple in most kin armies. Well done all!
Awesome games and awesome content, love the work guys, it's been amazing to see the channel grow from the start and all the amazing stories you guys have told, PLAY ON!!! 🤘
that white is beautifully painted and it was so awesome to watch both my favorite channels play against each other thank you both play on tabletop and northernknightsgaming !
He uses 300 points of terminators to screen his own deployment zone lol. If only Custodes had a cheap, 40 point unit that could be used to do that job instead!
and it doesn’t seem like he used the terminator grenade launchers at all.. or the martial katahs at the right time.. in both the enemy and his own fight phases
While I understand how the list isn't optimized, to me Play On has always been about having fun and having a good time rather than making meta, optimized lists and plays
@gammothdraws And I think that's great! The Votan list was fairly competitive though and it felt like they went out of their way to pick some of the worst units from the Custodes roster and then use them in the worst ways. Expensive terminators in the back, dreads slow walking up the center of the board, melee warlords leading ranged units, and Guards with Vexila and swords. If they were both unoptomized list I'd have had no complaints
You fear to go into those mines. The Dwarves dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dûm Custodes pop out with big smiles 😁
Anthony is a great opponent but his custodes list made me wince. Trajan on saggitarum and four bikes are a waste of the army’s potential. But a good game regardless.
@@mi55ionman1 bikes are super cool just cost prohibitive. I’d run them if they were cheaper. And yeah, no caladius and he never used Slayer of Nightmares when attacking the land fortresses with his allarus. He’s clearly a very competent player from his tactics but he just needs to run custodes half a dozen more times to get a feel for them.
Amazing game, love Northern Knights Gaming! Check them out!! I think the real start of this 40k in 40m has to be Mr. Tycho himself. Absolutely incredible voiceover, really made the game come alive. So much fun!
Well yeah Nick has a little bit of everything. There's only like eight units in the Votann product line. Hard to have a full list WITHOUT a little bit of everything 😂
This was one of my favorite battle reports every (because I play the Squats) and also because every turn I thought a different person would win the game! Thank you Play on and Northern Knights.
I seriously hope that when the Leagues of Votann codex drops that it comes with several new models and not just a new character. Votann is still half an army and needs more unit options. That being said they are still a very cool and flavorful army
Just FYI Nick, the unit of Sagitarum that killed the Brôkhyr Iron-Master and his Hearthkyn Warriors was supposed to get 2 judgement tokens. 1 for the Warriors and 1 for the Iron-Master. :) Great game guys!
So shortnick when Votann faction. Awesome and i think nick is already flexible player because he knows the how to play it and he know each faction weakness. Now we need space marine nick to fight spacemarine steve.
What you do after destroying a unit in melee is called a "Consolidation Move" and not "Pile in" (Pile in is done after charging) but you can only do that if the unit is in range of an objetice marker.
40in40 battlereports are always fun to watch! I just bought a custodes army, and I'm still waiting for them to arrive, but even I know better than this 😅 I have literally no experience with custodes, but it seems like people tend to build 8th edition lists, which is almost exactly opposite a 10th meta list. Bikes, saggitarum, axes, contemptor dreads, etc. If he at least had a caladius, or maybe even a telemon, he could have had at least some kind of ranged threat/bait. Going 2nd as custodes is amazing because you can reserve your allarus at the end of your opponents turn and redeploy on yours. Even having just one sword and board in the guard unit just for the wounds. I totally get not caring about meta and having a fun list, but even that could have been done differently. Throw an Assassin in there, maybe a named inquisitor on the saggitarum. Throw Aleya on some sword sisters, stick trajan with wardens. Anything would have been better than this list, unfortunately.
@@NorthernKnightsGamingRespect for playing what you like rather than the current meta. They'll probably be awesome in a couple of months! I do like a Canis Rex, even post nerf.
I wonder how Anthony would've played with my 2k custodes list. its primarily of MSU units 1 blade champ, 4 custodian guards X4 , 3 allarus 2 a squad, and then 3 custodian wardans 4 a squad I would love to watch him play that list ! I love how efficient he played even losing the bikes super early he did his thing and nick played great too !
This was a rough game to watch. The votann are extremely strong right now, and the custodes are really weak. This custodes list wasn’t even anywhere near optimized. No heavy armor support, and poor choice in units.
Anthony's ( The Custodes player) dice let him down hard this game. He had several series of bad dice that led to the Custodes doing far less output than they should have. I feel like he positioned them well and made strong plays, but in the end, really got let down.
Holy Emperor, these Custodes felt like guardsmen against the Votann. I think they suffered from bad ranged options and trully no way to take down those Hekatons. Plus, I think some Arcane Genetic Alchemy and Slayers of Monsters would have helped.
Great game and great video as usually from the team at Play On! We had an absolute blast being on the show. We can’t wait to do it again sometime…PLAY ON!!
My two favorite channels!!!!!!! Woooo
Thanks for coming!
wooo!
Thank you for your hard work!
thank's to both these channels making top tier battle reports
Once they get Nick to play Necrons he becomes... RobotNick
Or Nickron?
A giant talking egg?
Robonick*
I see what you did there 😂
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Rolling bad against a bad matchup is a miserable experience. Props for the attitude!
True, it might have been a more tight match should he get a wee bit better rolls and Nick not pulling those heavenly rolls on some instances (LF overwatch and Champion saves were just oof)
@radekpazdera4560 I don't know man. I agree with you mostly but I run Custodes and can tell you 3 things for sure.
1st is that his list was a 9th edition list. 2nd is Nicks rolls were stupid good. 3rd is that Votann are hella hard to fight for Custodes unless you build a list specifically for handling an army that excels against elite armies.
@@FnRenner I do not have experoence playing against Votann but those Hearthkyn seemed to be very hard counter for sure. Amd eell yeah Volkite weapons and since DW changed and half of Custodes faction rule is almost useless - there are not that many sources of MW now (you could also see that in game where Custodes get chatged and get the MW and guys like "mortal wounds I have thing for that"
Man, I really love those custodes painted in white. They look super clean and pure. I think its much more appealing than their standard straight gold.
I also love that color sheme, it has much more focal points as they were in (almost) pure gold
They need more purple imo.
Cool fact, this is actually an official colour palette. The Solar Watch shield host has this specific colour palette.
I have mine painted in silver. The idea was to make them look like the Silver Knights in Dark Souls.
The fact that both land-fortresses didn't go down all game, and the toughness of the Votaan in general, made the game hard for the Custodes
Yeaahhhhhh. Custodes don't really have that much anti-tank, at least from what I remember from 9th, don't know if that's changed much in 10th. XD
@sirseacow4514 the only real anti tank is their grav tank and good rolls when they use the Rendax Karate haha
@@sirseacow4514you need the grav tank, or to get the Achillus dread into melee. Both units are forgeworld though so, yea...
@@sirseacow4514 That's intentional by design. Removing armored vehicles is meant to be their exploitable flaw to balance the army 'Rock - Paper - Scissor' style. That and being super expensive point-wise to make the hard to fail saves very costly when they do. It's a better position to be in than Necrons, imo. They also suck at removing armored vehicles. But they don't have universal invuln saves and 2+/3+ saves army wide. They have to rely on a gimmick that can be circumvented entirely. lol
@@demiliomason1565 not to mention the Achillus 6" M ... getting him there is not easy 🥲
That’s a rough matchup, the Dwarves just love elite armies. Great game though
Though the golden bois still did really well all things considered.
not a great army list for custodes either
Great gsme indeed!
Got to give credit to Nick, being able to play so many different armies is quite impressive. I can barely learn and play 2 different armies
Just takes practice. Between Warhammer Fantasy Battle, 40k, and Kings of War, I have something like 23 armies (playing since 1993).
Plus, 40k 10th is really easy. Frankly it’s a bit too easy
Practice makes perfect!!
No, when nick is playing them, They're not Votan; They are Demiurg. That still counts as Tau.
Space Bear-Sloths FTW!
I feel like Votan are the natural counter to Custodes cause the custodes have so few units that the entire army ends up with double judgment tokens easily
Nice to know that!!
Knights are right behind them in that regard then
As a custodian player, it’s honestly hard to play when you’re outnumbered but that’s how it is. We hit hard and kill damn well in melee but man, you never wanna take first turn imo.
It's hard to play when you construct an awful army list and then deploy your vehicles in the middle of the board, and charge into melee with saggitarum, etc etc. Baffling decisions top to bottom from this custodes player.
Also hard if you bring the most off meta custards army possible!
To be fair, he said he doesn't play Custodes, and I would probably do the same things he's done. Custodes are known for great melee and just not dyeing, so mistakes like his are understandable for new to Custodes players@@TheSearinoxx
thats what i was thinking@@TheSearinoxx
@@benpeterson6097 Late to the party: while you are correct; it's still a lot of bad decisions. Not only are the bikes quite bad, given their only advantage is speed, putting them in the middle of the board is just bad 40k wether you play adMec, custodes, tyranids or anything. Keep them out of sight and move them where they need to be when they need to.
The rest of the list also was kinda meh but mostly, the allarus or dreads should have been sent on those tanks ASAP. Your wardens or guards can take care of everything else, or at least not die while doing it; but only the big guys can take care of those tanks.
All in all, some bad decisions and a lot of bad roll against your worst meta enemy leads to a difficult fight; which may still have been a great game :)
I guess Nick did end up playing someone he got into the hobby. And right after he played the guy who brought him into the hobby. Wonder if they planned that?
Didn’t plan it. But that ends up being a really cool story.
What i love the most about these games is the fact you dont take meta lists. Your not afraid to try something different. Nick and that Votann were awesome and really have me thinking about bringing a 3rd warrior unit when i normally ony use 2. Also no sagitaur either and that is a staple in most kin armies. Well done all!
Great sportsmanship and a great game! Congrats and thanks to both players for an entertaining match
Great video! Love the Northern Knights Gaming guys this is awesome you both came together! 🎉
Awesome games and awesome content, love the work guys, it's been amazing to see the channel grow from the start and all the amazing stories you guys have told, PLAY ON!!! 🤘
They deserve more views and subs!
Beautiful paint job on those Custodes!
Very cool color scheme!
Nick showing off some OG Nerd cred with that old school Dwarven warcry near the end. Baruk Khazad, Khazad Ai-Menu!
Whats the reference?
@@pandavikingguy6193 Axes of the Dwarves! The Dwarves are upon you
@@pandavikingguy6193it’s a dwarven battlecry that Gimli shouts during the Battle of the Hornburg (and later on some shorter variations).
@@darkflame9410 oh cool! Was that in the books?
@@pandavikingguy6193 Yep. Gimli shouts it during the Battle within the Hornburg's courtyard.
that white is beautifully painted and it was so awesome to watch both my favorite channels play against each other thank you both play on tabletop and northernknightsgaming !
Nick and Anthony are great together this was a very fun watch thanks!
Awesome match! NKG and Play on , Pog! Both armies are beautiful painted and table looks sweet
He uses 300 points of terminators to screen his own deployment zone lol. If only Custodes had a cheap, 40 point unit that could be used to do that job instead!
And ditch the sagg and vertus for a caladius or two.
Ya his army isnt built optimally at all. But it is what it is.
and it doesn’t seem like he used the terminator grenade launchers at all.. or the martial katahs at the right time.. in both the enemy and his own fight phases
While I understand how the list isn't optimized, to me Play On has always been about having fun and having a good time rather than making meta, optimized lists and plays
@gammothdraws And I think that's great! The Votan list was fairly competitive though and it felt like they went out of their way to pick some of the worst units from the Custodes roster and then use them in the worst ways. Expensive terminators in the back, dreads slow walking up the center of the board, melee warlords leading ranged units, and Guards with Vexila and swords. If they were both unoptomized list I'd have had no complaints
Love these guy's vibes together. A great game, lighthearted and fun.
T’ahl Nick lol great video guys I love the intro shots….and the armies are gorgeous. Two great channels head to head, I need more of this
WHY CANT NICK ROLE THAT WELL WITH GAURD??!!?!!
Right???
We all love JT but major props to Tycho, he does a fantastic job!
He is a great narrator!
You fear to go into those mines. The Dwarves dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dûm
Custodes pop out with big smiles 😁
Anthony is a great opponent but his custodes list made me wince. Trajan on saggitarum and four bikes are a waste of the army’s potential. But a good game regardless.
Agreed - a caladius would have been a better add than the sag. I know bikes are thematic but they just don’t do it
@@mi55ionman1 bikes are super cool just cost prohibitive. I’d run them if they were cheaper. And yeah, no caladius and he never used Slayer of Nightmares when attacking the land fortresses with his allarus. He’s clearly a very competent player from his tactics but he just needs to run custodes half a dozen more times to get a feel for them.
@@jeffcooper5138 agreed. He also botched some rules sometimes, which sometimes fucked him a bit more and sometimes even helped him, so thats that.
@@havocsdilemma I noticed that as well. It happens I guess but hard to watch when you root for the custodes who lately need a lot of support.
Amazing game, love Northern Knights Gaming! Check them out!! I think the real start of this 40k in 40m has to be Mr. Tycho himself. Absolutely incredible voiceover, really made the game come alive. So much fun!
NKG is amazing! So happy to see them playing with you guys
I hope he returns one day.
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE
Did I hear a rock and stone!
If you don't rock and stone, you ain't coming home
I was really interested to see this, since I’ve been out of the loop a long time and I’m still blown away they brought the “Squats” back.
love love love this matchup and gorgeous paintjob. More NKG!
More please!
Hey this is amazing! Great seeing NKG on 40K in 40.
Great in !deed!
Fantastic game Nick and Anthony!
Well yeah Nick has a little bit of everything. There's only like eight units in the Votann product line. Hard to have a full list WITHOUT a little bit of everything 😂
What an awesome matchup!!
This was one of my favorite battle reports every (because I play the Squats) and also because every turn I thought a different person would win the game! Thank you Play on and Northern Knights.
As soon as I hear Tycho narrating I'm happy.
Even if the game itself is boring, Tycho makes it fun.
My two main armies !!! I love them so much honestly ;-).
I seriously hope that when the Leagues of Votann codex drops that it comes with several new models and not just a new character. Votann is still half an army and needs more unit options. That being said they are still a very cool and flavorful army
Theres already a bunch of Votann models in Necromunda, including a dreadnought. It’s ridiculous that they don’t have 40k datasheets
@@Stonehorn you serious? Well why don't they just use those then
I think they need more assault units.
@@Dracobyte they need a dreadnought unit, and fast moving infantry. Jetpack beserks or something
When he comes back, he should bring his Genestealer Cult and play against Nick with his(!) Genestealer Cult. That would be interesting.🤩
Love seeing Votann on the channel - 4 JT2 targets REALLY hurts elite armies like Custodes
"Votann have rail guns, Tau have rail guns, how hard could this be!?" Hahaha you guys are always cracking me. Another great video and battle!
Just FYI Nick, the unit of Sagitarum that killed the Brôkhyr Iron-Master and his Hearthkyn Warriors was supposed to get 2 judgement tokens. 1 for the Warriors and 1 for the Iron-Master. :) Great game guys!
the mental image of a custode getting kneecapped by a hammer-wielding exosuited dwarf makes me real happy.
So shortnick when Votann faction. Awesome and i think nick is already flexible player because he knows the how to play it and he know each faction weakness. Now we need space marine nick to fight spacemarine steve.
I legit said 'god damn' when Nick one shot that Bike with the rail gun haha
Love to see the dwarves playing. I need finish painting my votann
What you do after destroying a unit in melee is called a "Consolidation Move" and not "Pile in" (Pile in is done after charging) but you can only do that if the unit is in range of an objetice marker.
Awesome match! Awesome to see the space dorfs do well. Also, wow, Anthony looks so much like Elijah Wood or am I just crazy.
40in40 battlereports are always fun to watch!
I just bought a custodes army, and I'm still waiting for them to arrive, but even I know better than this 😅
I have literally no experience with custodes, but it seems like people tend to build 8th edition lists, which is almost exactly opposite a 10th meta list.
Bikes, saggitarum, axes, contemptor dreads, etc. If he at least had a caladius, or maybe even a telemon, he could have had at least some kind of ranged threat/bait.
Going 2nd as custodes is amazing because you can reserve your allarus at the end of your opponents turn and redeploy on yours.
Even having just one sword and board in the guard unit just for the wounds.
I totally get not caring about meta and having a fun list, but even that could have been done differently. Throw an Assassin in there, maybe a named inquisitor on the saggitarum. Throw Aleya on some sword sisters, stick trajan with wardens. Anything would have been better than this list, unfortunately.
bought my first Hearthkyn warriors 3 hours ago, super exited
Those terminators are one of my fave models. Amazing paint jobs everywhere
I just started Votann and this was such a nice vid to have pop up to see em
That was an amazing match. It's the first time i have seen the Custodes lose. Go Space Dwarves.
The votann always remind of the dwarves from deeprock , if I played I would be nonstop chanting ROCK AND STONE
my two armies squaring off, before I even start, I don't know how I feel about this.
Those Custodes looks amazing, great paint job
I know the Custodes are dangerous, but I keep hearing them as custodians. Shiney janitors.
That white and gold color scheme is magnificent.
Amazing game, I was waiting to see Votann on the channel!!
Therapist: Short Nick is not real, he cannot hurt you nor your golden Demigods
Short Nick: …
Nick is the goat no matter what army he plays!
Happy to see those jolly dwarves finally have some decent games
I think Nick missed an opportunity here, because the dark dwarf from the later books in the Narnia series was named nikkibrick!
Awesome game ! Anthony reminds me a bit of Frodo . Awesome play from both players !
same! it's the eyes i think.
Nick! You need to start a Necron army, so you can then be called RobotNick!!!
My god he’s bringing bikes and sagituram he doesn’t stand a chance. I love both those units but they are straight do do
Perhaps, but they just look so cool! especially the sagituram
@@NorthernKnightsGamingRespect for playing what you like rather than the current meta. They'll probably be awesome in a couple of months! I do like a Canis Rex, even post nerf.
@@NorthernKnightsGaming you sir are the best of us I love both those units for my army
So Nick has a Votann side to him as well. How very VotanNick
Cool to see the solar watch scheme on the banana boys for the first time aside from codex art❤
Great game as always, Would LOVE to see you guys do a legions imperalis battle report!
splendid W for the ancestors, Nicholas
Rough game but nice to see two less common armies on the channel
I wonder how Anthony would've played with my 2k custodes list. its primarily of MSU units 1 blade champ, 4 custodian guards X4 , 3 allarus 2 a squad, and then 3 custodian wardans 4 a squad I would love to watch him play that list ! I love how efficient he played even losing the bikes super early he did his thing and nick played great too !
Anthony looks like he stepped out of Bob's Burgers.
This was a rough game to watch. The votann are extremely strong right now, and the custodes are really weak. This custodes list wasn’t even anywhere near optimized. No heavy armor support, and poor choice in units.
So many sword and boards, Warlord with sagutarum, and dreads with bikes instead of tanks. As a Custodes player, it was hard to watch.
Haven’t played much since the edition came out, this statement is fuckin wild to me
Felt like Nick tailored his list tbh…
The army was borrowed. So I had to play the votann as I had them.
@@PlayOnTabletop sure 😄😄😄
Still can’t believe that the terminators have a higher toughness than the jet bikes. What the heck was GW thinking there?
Two of my favorite factions.
Anthony's ( The Custodes player) dice let him down hard this game. He had several series of bad dice that led to the Custodes doing far less output than they should have. I feel like he positioned them well and made strong plays, but in the end, really got let down.
ANTHONY THAT'S MY BOOOOOOOOOY
Anthony looks like a fluffy Frodo
Very nice video! Finally enjoyable content, thumbs up keep goin
ROCK AND STONE!!
We want more dwarves! Nick was great with them!
I think a game with Saint Nick (sisters) is in order for this coming holiday season
Nick! Hearthguard have Grenades Launchers too!
Video spoilers!!:
I never thought I'd see the day where squats beat banana boys. Great game.
Perfect match mr. Frodo!
Custodes forever!!!
Those custodes were clearly traitors and therefore the emperor decided to expend them.
Somebody tell the narrator that "custodes" is latin. The E isn't silent! :D
YAY! Another battle i didn't know i needed
Nick, if you keep picking up more armies, who are you going to play in the next end-of-season tournament???
Great game! The Votann are still OP with the judgement token and rail guns. But the Custodes had a real change in mid-game. 🙂👍🏼
I love this channel but it would be really nice to see some grey knights movement shenanigans
Who are these "cuss toads" I keep hearing Mr. Child of Chaos alluding to?
I was shocked how bad custodes were. How easy it was for Votann to kill their units. The custodes weren’t even playable imo.
cant wait to watch the custodes slay some xenos!!!
If you guys do a t’au vs custodes I just want to tell you
ITS NOT FUCKING CANNON
they have done, the tau won
@@charlottebreckenridge659 and that’s the reason why it’s NOT FUCKING CANNON
Canon* 🤓
@@sarnxero2628 If captain general kitten says it’s not then it’s not
Holy Emperor, these Custodes felt like guardsmen against the Votann. I think they suffered from bad ranged options and trully no way to take down those Hekatons. Plus, I think some Arcane Genetic Alchemy and Slayers of Monsters would have helped.
Amazing looking custodes