bruh... Opera was bought out by a Chinese conglomerate, consisting of an "internet security" company, Qihoo 360, and a web game developer, Kunlun Tech, back in 2016. Between 2018 and 2022, Opera operated predatory microlending apps in Africa, as part of China's neocolonialist "debt-trap" strategy.
I hope those bills keep piling up so we can get more content 😂😂😂 (Damn how vile is this nihilistic capitalistic narrative that we’ve decided to embrace)
My wardrobe is nearly 80% thrifted and I have absolutely noticed that the construction of old clothes is better. Especially when talking about jeans and jackets.
Yes, it’s mostly because production has been cheapened and fast fashion became even faster. Remember how back then clothes used to be released as collections? Now every day there’s gotta be a new piece of clothing, which lead to them being made with less care, by cheaper, usually illegal, labor in sweatshops.
We know because of fast fashion etc that clothes are bad these days but in thrift stores it may just be the clothes that have made the cut yk, survivorship bias
where do you find like real good old stuff cause any of my thrift stores are just packed with 2010s-2020s fast fashion lol. its like defeating the point of thrifting for old quality construction
From the 50s-00s cultural change was revolutionary, which made the new feel exciting and the old feel redundant. But since then culture has become iterative. It’s like how phones are way better now, but they aren’t exciting the way they were in the 00s where every year there was killer new features.
That extends to everything, even like graphics. The difference between graphics in videogames between the early 2000s and the 2010s is way more noticeable than the difference between the 2010s and the 2000s.
It’s because try hards find a jacket and will attach 40 adjectives to describe it on their Depop or grailed and sell it for 40x what they paid at the local goodwill
After Goodwills CEO change shit hasn’t been the same. I’d highly recommend going to any thrift store that arent the big box stores that’s where I’ve gotten my best finds for the best prices. Got light wash 90’s Silver Tab Levi’s in my size for $3 lol
There's a case of survivorship bias to the quality argument too. The only t-shirts you see in thrift stores/vintage shops are the ones which were made well enough to last that long - everything else disintegrated. That said, there absolutely has been a race to the bottom in terms of manufacturers cutting costs by any means necessary as well as speeding up the trend cycle; fashion was a lot slower back then. If you look up the stats, people used to buy far fewer pieces of clothing AND spent a higher percentage of their income on it. Vintage leather is GOATed tho. It's cheaper, already broken-in and arguably more ethical. literally zero downsides
Leather requires a shitload of chemicals and killing an animal, often one used for meat. While faux leather is plastic eco-waste real leather really isn't more ethical or sustainable. Also while even some vegans argue in favor of second-hand leather I don't see the same argument for fur, and I wouldn't be comfortable wearing second-hand real fur either.
@@steveweast475 look up chromium tanning and you might change your mind. Either way, both are unsustainable and unnecessary. The only viable option is stuff made of cactus or other similar materials but those are expensive af
@@AbbohBohfaux leather will never last. No matter which you way slice the shitty melted plastic. Also most quality brands creating leather products now will always emphasize their tanning processes such as natural/veg tan.
@@ShanK_K literally there are faux leathers not made of plastic, but they're very expensive and niche. And real leather jackets are still extremely polluting and just as bad as fur ethically speaking. Better to steer clear of both.
Levi’s are a good example. I have a pair that was from 2009 and they are still holding up. I bought one about 2 months ago and they are already torn up. These are the classic Levi’s 501s by the way.
my best shirt right now is a thrifted tee from 2008, it’s cut so perfectly. nicely fitted crew neck, great sleeve length, and NOT TOO LONG OF A TORSO. it’s perfect
In terms of materials, yes things used to be made better for a reasonable cost. I had the same bathing suit from like 5th grade until the end of high school! Things were made like Superman’s clothes back in the 90s. (Granted I bought a pair of Jordans that disintegrated in under a month but, still…)
A weird thing I heard about nostalgia and aesthetic come-backs is that everyone who was a kid during a given era grows up and gets work in design. Then they bring back styles from their youth. Then everyone around that time who doesn’t work in design are the main demographic with disposable income. All this money is being spent on stuff from these designers’ childhoods, and it creates the trend of an era comeback. It’s also possible that this revival makes a future generation nostalgic for a given aesthetic because they ended up growing up with the revival of it. That’s how the 60’s-70’s and now even 80’s can have multiple comebacks. It’s gonna be weird seeing kids growing up in the 2010’s bringing that stuff back. I think it’s gonna be pretty cool. Can’t wait for the zoomer 2024 comeback with skibbidi fashion trends.
oh God im not ready for the 2014-2017s swag hypebeast era to come back. I wonder how they'll pull it off bcs most of them look ass and was I'd say where luxury consumerism started to really really rise
I used to alter my own clothes and make custom clothes. I started by going to thrifts when I was super young and it was so sick to be able to buy such good quality clothing for just pocket change. I’m 25 now but I was 11-17 years old going crazy at thrift stores. Now that same pair of 501s that was $10 is $90 😓😓😓 inflation isn’t even that bad it’s just hype that killed thrifting
This is a phrase I will gladly die on a hill for. So many things in general were made so much better, even a few decades back. Trash clothes from the late 90s/early 2000s feels like premium shit compared to similar stuff now. Like you can definitely still buy quality stuff now, but its always charged at a heavy premium just to have the chance to own something that isn't F2/Zara quality.
Literally !!! I try to explain the quality of original baby phat and ecko to people 😂 there was a lot of itchy polyester hanging out in the thrift stores in the 2000s, but you could find a 100% cotton hoodie from 1985 and it would be amazing
@@baby.nay. i have a bunch of hoodies from the 80s/90s that people have given me when they clean out their closets. They’re all nicer shaped, thicker and somehow still less pilled than a regular modern sweater 💀
9:10 "I'm not gonna say what race, what people, uuuh doctor... and what hospital and what media it went to. We know I can't say that... It was a jewish doctor." lmaooooo
Its true that things were better and more thought out back then. Like Martin Margiela, Helmut Lang and Issey Miyake have done everything that these new designers are doing right now.
You can’t tell me that a 90s Brockum blank isn’t heartier and more flattering than a Gildan that you’d get at a modern concert that disintegrates after a few washes.
As usual, an entertaining and informative video. I don't think enough mention was given to how different vintage Ts feel. They're firm, sturdy, thick, with solid construction - but because of continued wear, they also have a very comfortable feel. If you're not going for some coveted music / sports merch, you can easily find a vintage T with an interesting, attractive design for less than what you'd pay for a T at Gap or at Uniqlo. The only disadvantage is that because older Ts are thicker, you might find yourself too warm on the hotter days we have in the summers we get now.
I was born in 78, so I don't miss the 90s, baggy fit and drop shoulder jackets, but jeans or jackets or leather jackets or boots that you've been wearing for over a decade will look cooler and cooler. when we sew a patch or a badge on the upper sleeve of the jacket it was just a badge, but after 10 years creases forming around it the badge is fading and embedded into the sleeve , and the way the sleeve moves with the patch on it, the same with pockets and zipper and collar and leather belt and buckle on it, gravity and UV exposure, and time have blended them into coolness.
As an older guy creeping up on 50yrs old who loved fashion for decades I'd have to say, old clothes are "better". The issue is the reason WHY they were "better" is key. #1 The internet. We had no choice but to be more original because access to information was not at our fingertips like it is now. If we had the internet or it was as good as it is now (for the 2000s and up crowd) we would have pulled from the past a lot more. #2 Inflation. We had better quality at a cheaper price because everything was cheaper. #3. No real fast fashion. We had cheaper brands but they did not usually replicate the current trends with the accuracy they do now. Because of that most people bought better quality clothing and it was cheaper than it is now. Some bought cheaper clothing but they were not usually into fashion or just couldn't afford to be. I think "better" only really applies to quality and then only in terms of how much quality one can get for a certain amount of money. You can still get quality now, it just will cost more and you have to look a little harder. There are brands that still deliver good quality at a decent price like Champion and Uniqlo.
@@StephenRogue their headquarters are in Norway but their current chairman and co-ceo is a Chinese billionaire and their parent company is a Chinese tech giant
People had items of clothes for their entire lifetime vs now clothes are so garbage quality you expect them to be wearable for 2 years maximum, so there's nothing to talk about
im picky as shit when it comes to material and fit, and how it feels on me. so when i try and buy a brand new anything, its a hassle because the thing is 90% polyester (no breathability or loosening over time), no space for natural body fat, and its done in such a way that I often can't alter them! And for some reason women's clothes keep changing sizes, having less fabric for space, thin af, piece a shit designs... of course im gonna thrift that 90s jcrew top, its 100% cotton! nearly caved for a full silk top at a 5th avenue...it was $400...i bet i could find the same thing from a decade ago in a thrift store (thats NOT goodwill) for much less. Found a dream pair of vintage jeans in a thrift store, they didnt have my size, im still looking for it! It doesn't help that i miss a lot of my lil kid closet (2K-2016), so if anything reminds me of fashion styles i look up to, imma try and buy.
I honestly believe the difference between fashion photography in the 90s and early 2000s and now makes a huge difference to how we perceive the clothes, especially now that most photos are just taken on phones
I collect France 98 world cup fan t shirts and both the quality of the t shirt itself and the prints is far superior to any t shirts you can buy in 2024
It's not that ALL old clothes were better made, but the bottom end has definitely gotten cheaper. The average quality of high street stuff used to be better, for example.
“The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.” Quote by L.P. Hartley. I like that we miss and appreciate old stuff like clothes or music etc, but I think the times were completely different. If things of that style would come out today, not as nostalgia bait, but as genuine products, we wouldn't like them. Time is flying and everything changes and we have to change as well. We miss 90's but kids in 30 years will miss 2020's, natural way of live. We get everything that's fit for our current culture. 90's had deftones, longsleeves and neon painted cars, We have playboi carti, loafers and electric cars. Times are perfect, we just have to appreciate them.
i mean, i don’t necessarily disagree with what he’s saying, but quality HAS gone down. my argument isn’t that “past fashion is better because now, look bad,” because i actually adore the variety of styles, and greatly appreciate the internet for increasing access to smaller businesses, esp bc i like alternative fashion- but big fast fashion companies continuously steal *cough* (we know who i’m referring to) designs from these smaller businesses, and copy to mass produce them with HEINOUS quality. i dont believe all polyester is bad, but a large *majority* of polyester is poor quality simply because of the mass production synthetic materials have facilitated. and it's not just low end fashion, luxury brands like gucci and chanel have had a noticeable decrease in quality WHILE THEIR PRICES HAVE SIMULTANEOUSLY INCREASED?? and even beyond their aesthetic design, they just don't last, ex: (not mine, something i came across on the internet) that one $2000 gucci skirt that's dry clean only, got a stain, and had to be thrown away, chanel's new handbags having hardwear that's already scratched before purchase/breaking after a couple wears i don’t have a particular time period (20 years ago, 50, 90, whatever, i’m literally just 17) in mind when i say “wow, now kinda bad”- i just know whatever we’ve got now, holistically, ain’t it.
and i enjoy new things, as much as i’d like to buy more vintage- which is exactly why it SUCKS because then you quickly notice how hard it is to navigate brands and learn which ones are producing clothing that’ll actually last & live up to expectations
I appreciate tf outta him for shouting out vintage/thrifted clothing!! Far too many times are fast fashion companies being promoted by fashion creators. These companies literally exploit TF out of children and women. People are literally dying from this shit. So him promoting buying “old” clothes is so fucking important. Yes, obviously some thrift/vintage stores don’t promote the best causes. But at least it’s not piece of shit companies. Good shit
Like your content, I was born in 86 and this is why y'all don't understand the quality of the 90s ...my Friend it truly was a time only the folks that were there can relate to unfortunately
Лично меня в вещах из прошлого привлекает то, что среди них банально легче найти так называемые timeless референсы. Если говорить о том, что популярно сейчас - то бывает сложно сказать, будет ли это актуально через лет 10. Те стили, что находятся на хайпе надоедают людям спустя 2-3 года - тот же горпкор, логомания, пресловутый олдмани. Даже в контексте одного стиля меняются актуальные силуэты и вещи. Поэтому я стараюсь составлять гардероб из может быть не таких выделяющихся и цепляющих взгляд вещей, но которые будут смотреться хорошо вне зависимости от трендов. А среди old clothes банально больше встречается такого. Мне кажется это тоже важный фактор, почему старые вещи привлекают больше
30-40 year old CLOSED T-Shirt from my father feels just different in quality from anything I've ever touched, even in the most fancy stores and from the best brands nowdays. My gradparents had a clothes and perfume store in the past and my father had always the best brands since he was a teenager that where really ahead of their time. All this vintage stone island and closed pieces would be soooooo nice today. Sadly there are no sweaters, denim jackets, jeans and other stuff left. My parents put it nearly every item away in the 2000s because they thought nobody would want to wear it. Soooo sad.
simple back than brands werent heavily carried by brand name it was quality. nowadays I see people wearing the ugliest shirts because it say Balenciaga on it. stuff like Supreme shirts looked awful.
Quality is the primary reason I believe people are into vintage. Also the accessibility. You can get a quality vintage garment for 1/8th of the price of a designer garment. You also get the reference. Which is way cooler.
The quality thing is a huge problem. It infuriates me that high end brands would rather try to circumvent consumer laws and to stop people from reselling their old pieces than actually make good quality products. It's not the consumer's fault your clothes are dogpiss! Do it right.
I think a big part of why people get stuck on retro aesthetics, or nostalgia in general, is because the past is mostly settled, which makes it comfortable. We know what's what, which sides won, and that makes it a whole lot easier to think about.
It’s wild I can’t buy anything online without finding out the cotton weight or gsm . Ive noticed some places don’t even list the materials they make the item out of !! wtf . Noticed an uptick of things being listed as 100% cotton but it’s actually a polyester blend when you get it , most recently a brand said they wouldn’t accept returns even though the description of the item was wrong… just feels like everything is meant to look like clothes but not really be the clothes 😂😂😂
Its difficult to really guess if things were actually higher quality in the past, or if we are just seeing the things that have survived the test of time due to survivorship bias though too.
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I think we’re at the end of this civilization and the 90s was the peak of all our creative ideas and everything had basically been done. The only thing left to be new was the iPhone and internet. To simply log in all the data from the 1900s y2k and the Mayans was all about this very momen
As someone who is not hampered by nostalgia, I do feel that older items are better; both in design and quality. I struggle to find items of quality that are not at a luxury price point even if they are a relatively standard design such as a single breasted wool coat. I am aware this is partially due to living in a backwater location but there has been a noticeable loss of quality and character over even just the last 8 or so years.
Quality issues in relation to the idea of "they don't make 'em like they used to" is valid and imo very true. I think the reason that people have such intense nostalgia for previous decades is that style in terms of fashion, cars, graphic design, etc is because the modernism vibe that is so prevalent today is just so fucking boring. Minimalism is boring af and ikea type modernism is fucking boring. Shit is fucking boring. So when you see older stuff that wasn't so fucking boring, it's really refreshing and hopefully everything stops looking and being so fucking boring
>company makes good reliable clothes (usually for work/sport) >people buy clothes more than expected >company becomes a fashion brand >useful reliable clothes turn into an aesthetic >company marks up prices and outsources production to the cheapest option >company maintains its image with multi-million-dollar marketing >people keep buying for years before noticing the quality is garbage
Lots of new clothes that regular people are buying are made poorly with synthetic or lower quality materials. You can still buy quality clothing, you're just gonna have to wade through all of the junk if you only shop at standard retail stores or online wholesalers that source all of their clothes from sweatshops. Also, me looking at those huge chunky running shoes since switching to barefoot shoes: 😐🤣
S'like all the zeitgeisty Tarantino esque,film noir type shits we all yearn for now,but if you go back and watch Pulp or Dogs or Jackie....THEY'RE all just yearning for and referencing pop culture from the sixties and seventies and in the seventies they wete nostalgic for the fifties,it never ends,Christiphor Ecclestone nails this phenomena with his cameo momologue in twentyfour hour party people from the early 2000s,itself,ironically a film about looking back over Tony Wilsons life and by extension the life and influence of Factory records.
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Opera was bought out by a Chinese conglomerate, consisting of an "internet security" company, Qihoo 360, and a web game developer, Kunlun Tech, back in 2016.
Between 2018 and 2022, Opera operated predatory microlending apps in Africa, as part of China's neocolonialist "debt-trap" strategy.
Rent got to bro the way he's constantly making videos now🙏
He has a wedding to finance now
Thank god it did we eating good now
I hope those bills keep piling up so we can get more content 😂😂😂
(Damn how vile is this nihilistic capitalistic narrative that we’ve decided to embrace)
Don't jinx it
Like 1 every other week? Is it just me or was he more constant last year with weeklys
My wardrobe is nearly 80% thrifted and I have absolutely noticed that the construction of old clothes is better. Especially when talking about jeans and jackets.
Real. I have 3 vintage Levi's jeans from the 90s which still made in USA and those are still better made than newer Levi's jeans.
This is true. Where I’m at, the jeans are so thin it’s definitely not going to last long.
Yes, it’s mostly because production has been cheapened and fast fashion became even faster. Remember how back then clothes used to be released as collections? Now every day there’s gotta be a new piece of clothing, which lead to them being made with less care, by cheaper, usually illegal, labor in sweatshops.
We know because of fast fashion etc that clothes are bad these days but in thrift stores it may just be the clothes that have made the cut yk, survivorship bias
where do you find like real good old stuff cause any of my thrift stores are just packed with 2010s-2020s fast fashion lol. its like defeating the point of thrifting for old quality construction
Damn that boy Nio must be tripping rn
Im sorry for nio
From the 50s-00s cultural change was revolutionary, which made the new feel exciting and the old feel redundant. But since then culture has become iterative.
It’s like how phones are way better now, but they aren’t exciting the way they were in the 00s where every year there was killer new features.
What the law of diminishing returns does to a mf
That extends to everything, even like graphics. The difference between graphics in videogames between the early 2000s and the 2010s is way more noticeable than the difference between the 2010s and the 2000s.
WHY IS THRIFTING HIGH Key expensive NOW THO
cuz it became a trend n thrift shops caught on. Ya gotta dig deep for cheap but good clothes second hadn now
Stay away from corporate thrifts.
It’s because try hards find a jacket and will attach 40 adjectives to describe it on their Depop or grailed and sell it for 40x what they paid at the local goodwill
cause you arent hitting real thrift shops but rather want to skip the long search part
After Goodwills CEO change shit hasn’t been the same. I’d highly recommend going to any thrift store that arent the big box stores that’s where I’ve gotten my best finds for the best prices. Got light wash 90’s Silver Tab Levi’s in my size for $3 lol
damn fr parent's clothes coming in clutch
I wear my dad's jackets pretty often, clothes are so expensive now
There's a case of survivorship bias to the quality argument too. The only t-shirts you see in thrift stores/vintage shops are the ones which were made well enough to last that long - everything else disintegrated. That said, there absolutely has been a race to the bottom in terms of manufacturers cutting costs by any means necessary as well as speeding up the trend cycle; fashion was a lot slower back then. If you look up the stats, people used to buy far fewer pieces of clothing AND spent a higher percentage of their income on it.
Vintage leather is GOATed tho. It's cheaper, already broken-in and arguably more ethical. literally zero downsides
Leather requires a shitload of chemicals and killing an animal, often one used for meat. While faux leather is plastic eco-waste real leather really isn't more ethical or sustainable. Also while even some vegans argue in favor of second-hand leather I don't see the same argument for fur, and I wouldn't be comfortable wearing second-hand real fur either.
@@AbbohBoh no, plastic is worse, plain and simple.
@@steveweast475 look up chromium tanning and you might change your mind. Either way, both are unsustainable and unnecessary. The only viable option is stuff made of cactus or other similar materials but those are expensive af
@@AbbohBohfaux leather will never last. No matter which you way slice the shitty melted plastic. Also most quality brands creating leather products now will always emphasize their tanning processes such as natural/veg tan.
@@ShanK_K literally there are faux leathers not made of plastic, but they're very expensive and niche. And real leather jackets are still extremely polluting and just as bad as fur ethically speaking. Better to steer clear of both.
"they dont make em like they used to, because they dont make em anymore"
-- Frugal Aesthetic, 2024.
Levi’s are a good example. I have a pair that was from 2009 and they are still holding up. I bought one about 2 months ago and they are already torn up. These are the classic Levi’s 501s by the way.
my best shirt right now is a thrifted tee from 2008, it’s cut so perfectly. nicely fitted crew neck, great sleeve length, and NOT TOO LONG OF A TORSO. it’s perfect
In terms of materials, yes things used to be made better for a reasonable cost. I had the same bathing suit from like 5th grade until the end of high school! Things were made like Superman’s clothes back in the 90s. (Granted I bought a pair of Jordans that disintegrated in under a month but, still…)
That's wild, my fake Jordans got relegated to "total beaters" and they've taken it like a champ. Little shits still look great.
Nike was peak sweatshop quality in the '90s.
A weird thing I heard about nostalgia and aesthetic come-backs is that everyone who was a kid during a given era grows up and gets work in design.
Then they bring back styles from their youth. Then everyone around that time who doesn’t work in design are the main demographic with disposable income.
All this money is being spent on stuff from these designers’ childhoods, and it creates the trend of an era comeback. It’s also possible that this revival makes a future generation nostalgic for a given aesthetic because they ended up growing up with the revival of it. That’s how the 60’s-70’s and now even 80’s can have multiple comebacks.
It’s gonna be weird seeing kids growing up in the 2010’s bringing that stuff back. I think it’s gonna be pretty cool.
Can’t wait for the zoomer 2024 comeback with skibbidi fashion trends.
oh God im not ready for the 2014-2017s swag hypebeast era to come back. I wonder how they'll pull it off bcs most of them look ass and was I'd say where luxury consumerism started to really really rise
I used to alter my own clothes and make custom clothes. I started by going to thrifts when I was super young and it was so sick to be able to buy such good quality clothing for just pocket change. I’m 25 now but I was 11-17 years old going crazy at thrift stores. Now that same pair of 501s that was $10 is $90 😓😓😓 inflation isn’t even that bad it’s just hype that killed thrifting
THEY DONT MAKE VIDEOS LIKE THEY USED TOO
This is a phrase I will gladly die on a hill for. So many things in general were made so much better, even a few decades back. Trash clothes from the late 90s/early 2000s feels like premium shit compared to similar stuff now. Like you can definitely still buy quality stuff now, but its always charged at a heavy premium just to have the chance to own something that isn't F2/Zara quality.
Literally !!! I try to explain the quality of original baby phat and ecko to people 😂 there was a lot of itchy polyester hanging out in the thrift stores in the 2000s, but you could find a 100% cotton hoodie from 1985 and it would be amazing
@@baby.nay. i have a bunch of hoodies from the 80s/90s that people have given me when they clean out their closets. They’re all nicer shaped, thicker and somehow still less pilled than a regular modern sweater 💀
Inflation go brrr
@@CaliKiid714 very true, what is considered premium now used to be expected
9:10 "I'm not gonna say what race, what people, uuuh doctor... and what hospital and what media it went to. We know I can't say that... It was a jewish doctor." lmaooooo
I heard that and went straight to the comments 🤣
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I’ve been wearing vintage since before it was cool (I wore hand me downs and goodwill clothes as a kid because poor)
Its true that things were better and more thought out back then. Like Martin Margiela, Helmut Lang and Issey Miyake have done everything that these new designers are doing right now.
You can’t tell me that a 90s Brockum blank isn’t heartier and more flattering than a Gildan that you’d get at a modern concert that disintegrates after a few washes.
I'm watching this while wearing my aunt's old 70's boho blouse.. fr, not even knew clothes can rival with vintage in terms of quality.
The transition into the sponsor was so smooth that it was too late for me to skip it 😂
As usual, an entertaining and informative video. I don't think enough mention was given to how different vintage Ts feel. They're firm, sturdy, thick, with solid construction - but because of continued wear, they also have a very comfortable feel. If you're not going for some coveted music / sports merch, you can easily find a vintage T with an interesting, attractive design for less than what you'd pay for a T at Gap or at Uniqlo. The only disadvantage is that because older Ts are thicker, you might find yourself too warm on the hotter days we have in the summers we get now.
I was born in 78, so I don't miss the 90s, baggy fit and drop shoulder jackets, but jeans or jackets or leather jackets or boots that you've been wearing for over a decade will look cooler and cooler. when we sew a patch or a badge on the upper sleeve of the jacket it was just a badge, but after 10 years creases forming around it the badge is fading and embedded into the sleeve , and the way the sleeve moves with the patch on it, the same with pockets and zipper and collar and leather belt and buckle on it, gravity and UV exposure, and time have blended them into coolness.
As an older guy creeping up on 50yrs old who loved fashion for decades I'd have to say, old clothes are "better". The issue is the reason WHY they were "better" is key.
#1 The internet. We had no choice but to be more original because access to information was not at our fingertips like it is now. If we had the internet or it was as good as it is now (for the 2000s and up crowd) we would have pulled from the past a lot more.
#2 Inflation. We had better quality at a cheaper price because everything was cheaper.
#3. No real fast fashion. We had cheaper brands but they did not usually replicate the current trends with the accuracy they do now. Because of that most people bought better quality clothing and it was cheaper than it is now. Some bought cheaper clothing but they were not usually into fashion or just couldn't afford to be.
I think "better" only really applies to quality and then only in terms of how much quality one can get for a certain amount of money. You can still get quality now, it just will cost more and you have to look a little harder. There are brands that still deliver good quality at a decent price like Champion and Uniqlo.
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Isnt Opera based in Norway?
@@StephenRogue their headquarters are in Norway but their current chairman and co-ceo is a Chinese billionaire and their parent company is a Chinese tech giant
A gogle search would enlighten him@@sciencebrosofficial6634
Every time I come in to these videos looking for fashion advice, and I leave rethinking my whole life...
Fun fact, some of the foams commonly used in performance shoes break down with water/humidity
People had items of clothes for their entire lifetime vs now clothes are so garbage quality you expect them to be wearable for 2 years maximum, so there's nothing to talk about
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i knew holding onto that dale earnhart nascar graphic tshirt would pay off one day😂
im picky as shit when it comes to material and fit, and how it feels on me. so when i try and buy a brand new anything, its a hassle because the thing is 90% polyester (no breathability or loosening over time), no space for natural body fat, and its done in such a way that I often can't alter them! And for some reason women's clothes keep changing sizes, having less fabric for space, thin af, piece a shit designs...
of course im gonna thrift that 90s jcrew top, its 100% cotton! nearly caved for a full silk top at a 5th avenue...it was $400...i bet i could find the same thing from a decade ago in a thrift store (thats NOT goodwill) for much less. Found a dream pair of vintage jeans in a thrift store, they didnt have my size, im still looking for it!
It doesn't help that i miss a lot of my lil kid closet (2K-2016), so if anything reminds me of fashion styles i look up to, imma try and buy.
I honestly believe the difference between fashion photography in the 90s and early 2000s and now makes a huge difference to how we perceive the clothes, especially now that most photos are just taken on phones
I collect France 98 world cup fan t shirts and both the quality of the t shirt itself and the prints is far superior to any t shirts you can buy in 2024
Because FIFA was less corrupt than it is now.
I respect how you flowed the sponsor into the video I ended up watching the ad
7:07 can confirm, I'm European and we do change!
It's not that ALL old clothes were better made, but the bottom end has definitely gotten cheaper. The average quality of high street stuff used to be better, for example.
“The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.” Quote by L.P. Hartley.
I like that we miss and appreciate old stuff like clothes or music etc, but I think the times were completely different. If things of that style would come out today, not as nostalgia bait, but as genuine products, we wouldn't like them. Time is flying and everything changes and we have to change as well. We miss 90's but kids in 30 years will miss 2020's, natural way of live. We get everything that's fit for our current culture. 90's had deftones, longsleeves and neon painted cars, We have playboi carti, loafers and electric cars. Times are perfect, we just have to appreciate them.
i mean, i don’t necessarily disagree with what he’s saying, but quality HAS gone down. my argument isn’t that “past fashion is better because now, look bad,” because i actually adore the variety of styles, and greatly appreciate the internet for increasing access to smaller businesses, esp bc i like alternative fashion- but big fast fashion companies continuously steal *cough* (we know who i’m referring to) designs from these smaller businesses, and copy to mass produce them with HEINOUS quality. i dont believe all polyester is bad, but a large *majority* of polyester is poor quality simply because of the mass production synthetic materials have facilitated. and it's not just low end fashion, luxury brands like gucci and chanel have had a noticeable decrease in quality WHILE THEIR PRICES HAVE SIMULTANEOUSLY INCREASED?? and even beyond their aesthetic design, they just don't last, ex: (not mine, something i came across on the internet) that one $2000 gucci skirt that's dry clean only, got a stain, and had to be thrown away, chanel's new handbags having hardwear that's already scratched before purchase/breaking after a couple wears
i don’t have a particular time period (20 years ago, 50, 90, whatever, i’m literally just 17) in mind when i say “wow, now kinda bad”- i just know whatever we’ve got now, holistically, ain’t it.
and i enjoy new things, as much as i’d like to buy more vintage- which is exactly why it SUCKS because then you quickly notice how hard it is to navigate brands and learn which ones are producing clothing that’ll actually last & live up to expectations
I appreciate tf outta him for shouting out vintage/thrifted clothing!! Far too many times are fast fashion companies being promoted by fashion creators. These companies literally exploit TF out of children and women. People are literally dying from this shit. So him promoting buying “old” clothes is so fucking important. Yes, obviously some thrift/vintage stores don’t promote the best causes. But at least it’s not piece of shit companies. Good shit
Bro tossing up the Spy Kids glasses every time.
Like your content, I was born in 86 and this is why y'all don't understand the quality of the 90s ...my Friend it truly was a time only the folks that were there can relate to unfortunately
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Лично меня в вещах из прошлого привлекает то, что среди них банально легче найти так называемые timeless референсы. Если говорить о том, что популярно сейчас - то бывает сложно сказать, будет ли это актуально через лет 10. Те стили, что находятся на хайпе надоедают людям спустя 2-3 года - тот же горпкор, логомания, пресловутый олдмани. Даже в контексте одного стиля меняются актуальные силуэты и вещи. Поэтому я стараюсь составлять гардероб из может быть не таких выделяющихся и цепляющих взгляд вещей, но которые будут смотреться хорошо вне зависимости от трендов. А среди old clothes банально больше встречается такого. Мне кажется это тоже важный фактор, почему старые вещи привлекают больше
30-40 year old CLOSED T-Shirt from my father feels just different in quality from anything I've ever touched, even in the most fancy stores and from the best brands nowdays. My gradparents had a clothes and perfume store in the past and my father had always the best brands since he was a teenager that where really ahead of their time. All this vintage stone island and closed pieces would be soooooo nice today. Sadly there are no sweaters, denim jackets, jeans and other stuff left. My parents put it nearly every item away in the 2000s because they thought nobody would want to wear it. Soooo sad.
Smooth sponsorship. You calmed my soul with the jazz
ain't no way he posted another consistent video
That episode of Samurai Jack is ELITE
culture just appreciates with time as a whole
you know its a good weekend when christian drops
simple back than brands werent heavily carried by brand name it was quality. nowadays I see people wearing the ugliest shirts because it say Balenciaga on it. stuff like Supreme shirts looked awful.
I LIVE FOR THIS CHANNEL
Quality is the primary reason I believe people are into vintage. Also the accessibility.
You can get a quality vintage garment for 1/8th of the price of a designer garment.
You also get the reference. Which is way cooler.
Samurai Jack reference 🔥🔥
6 uploads in the past month is crazy
That out of pocket samurai jack reference was real af
I grew up in Compton in the 90s and let me tell you, i definitely don't miss it 😂
Pulling up to the function in the Puma Fast-RB
Whats the jazz song you used at 8:41
No way another upload
The quality thing is a huge problem. It infuriates me that high end brands would rather try to circumvent consumer laws and to stop people from reselling their old pieces than actually make good quality products. It's not the consumer's fault your clothes are dogpiss! Do it right.
I think a big part of why people get stuck on retro aesthetics, or nostalgia in general, is because the past is mostly settled, which makes it comfortable. We know what's what, which sides won, and that makes it a whole lot easier to think about.
yo christian im glad to watch your videos i just keep binging them im on that up but idk hopefully i can do cool shit like you one day
WHY OLD WOMEN ARE SUPERIOR
It’s wild I can’t buy anything online without finding out the cotton weight or gsm . Ive noticed some places don’t even list the materials they make the item out of !! wtf . Noticed an uptick of things being listed as 100% cotton but it’s actually a polyester blend when you get it , most recently a brand said they wouldn’t accept returns even though the description of the item was wrong… just feels like everything is meant to look like clothes but not really be the clothes 😂😂😂
Bruh, that's literally my Austrian military parka at 8:45. Crazy
bro found a consistent upload schedule
first time seeing 2 sponsors in one video
Its difficult to really guess if things were actually higher quality in the past, or if we are just seeing the things that have survived the test of time due to survivorship bias though too.
too lazy to check on Aria :P. Whats the leather Jacket ID on 9:20 :D?
Frugal said that Chrome was the best browser in a video a few years back when he was plugging the honey chrome extension, but now Opera is the best apparently
Bro the center pocket v neck at the beginning fucking sent me 🤣🤣🤣💀
Thank you for making this
Victorian child from 1800's catching some strays in this video
I think we’re at the end of this civilization and the 90s was the peak of all our creative ideas and everything had basically been done. The only thing left to be new was the iPhone and internet. To simply log in all the data from the 1900s y2k and the Mayans was all about this very momen
Bros skin and facial shape looking fabulous
As someone who is not hampered by nostalgia, I do feel that older items are better; both in design and quality. I struggle to find items of quality that are not at a luxury price point even if they are a relatively standard design such as a single breasted wool coat. I am aware this is partially due to living in a backwater location but there has been a noticeable loss of quality and character over even just the last 8 or so years.
Would watch you solely for the comedy even without the fashion. thanks for the vids bro
Quality issues in relation to the idea of "they don't make 'em like they used to" is valid and imo very true. I think the reason that people have such intense nostalgia for previous decades is that style in terms of fashion, cars, graphic design, etc is because the modernism vibe that is so prevalent today is just so fucking boring. Minimalism is boring af and ikea type modernism is fucking boring. Shit is fucking boring. So when you see older stuff that wasn't so fucking boring, it's really refreshing and hopefully everything stops looking and being so fucking boring
>company makes good reliable clothes (usually for work/sport)
>people buy clothes more than expected
>company becomes a fashion brand
>useful reliable clothes turn into an aesthetic
>company marks up prices and outsources production to the cheapest option
>company maintains its image with multi-million-dollar marketing
>people keep buying for years before noticing the quality is garbage
I hate that I've never found a vintage Aphex Twin tee despite him being my top favourite ambience artist aside from C418
Lots of new clothes that regular people are buying are made poorly with synthetic or lower quality materials. You can still buy quality clothing, you're just gonna have to wade through all of the junk if you only shop at standard retail stores or online wholesalers that source all of their clothes from sweatshops.
Also, me looking at those huge chunky running shoes since switching to barefoot shoes: 😐🤣
11:16 Idk sometimes i find stuff in the mall that’s been sitting for like 10 years that u will never see again made
i looooooooove archive fashion!!!!
Image of baby next to beer bottles goes hard
the craziest ending 😭😭
Samurai Jack reference on point, got one tattoo of him
@8:20 is gonna be real funny when the PFAS ban kicks in lmao
S'like all the zeitgeisty Tarantino esque,film noir type shits we all yearn for now,but if you go back and watch Pulp or Dogs or Jackie....THEY'RE all just yearning for and referencing pop culture from the sixties and seventies and in the seventies they wete nostalgic for the fifties,it never ends,Christiphor Ecclestone nails this phenomena with his cameo momologue in twentyfour hour party people from the early 2000s,itself,ironically a film about looking back over Tony Wilsons life and by extension the life and influence of Factory records.
i paused, got myself some food. sat down. and resumed .
WAKE UP BABE CHRISTIAN JUST UPLOADED
somar mentioned🔥🔥
Watching this on Opera GX is a FLEX
Thx Frugal got Opera for my new Laptop
buying things to show the world how frugal you really are
dude i must be real your videos are great good job i am a fan
i need to know where that red hoodie is from 😔🙏
5:41 best hidden add ever