I've been working with the G2/G3 for about a decade and have had to use up to 20 simultaneously once for a doc shoot With the G3/G4 you need to do a very specific procedure to get the best results, here is what I recommend: Turn off all transmitters/receivers so nothing is broadcasting Turn on only one receiver Set the squelch to 'Low' Perform a easy setup > scan new list This will scan all possible frequencies, but by having the squelch set to 'Low' it will be more prone to interference and therefore show less possible frequencies, which is a good thing, you dont want to select a frequency that is more prone to interference After the scan I typically navigate a few frequencies away from the first suggested and press 'Set' Then watch the reception of the receiver closely and look for the connection to change, if the connection does change this means something is in range that is causing interference on that frequency and you need ro select a different frequency from the scan list..select a different frequency from the scan list until you dont see interference Then set the squelch to 'High' This will increase the threshold at which point the reciever will connect to frequencies, making it less prone to connect to rogue interference signals Turn on the transmitter pack for the pair and sync the two using the sync function Set those two packs aside as they are now paired, do not turn them off as you want them to actively use the frequency Now turn on the next receiver and repeat the process for every lav pair needed It is best to do this one pair at a time so they dont inadvertently hog frequencies When running the sound mixer if possible I will set up the receiver packs so I can view the screen at a glance, this better allows you to troubleshoot issues..so if I hear static I can glace over at the signal, if I see the signal strength dip at all this tells me the pack is getting interference on that frequency and I'll change to a new frequency Static more often is caused by a bad frequency and not appropriate squelch
I stopped the video when someone said that a 2.4Ghz system is FAR more reliable. No, it is not. And if you hadn't had any problem it just means that you haven't used it enough or your expectations are just too low.
Interesting note, fpv drone pilots have switched entirely from 900mhz to 2.4ghz transmission systems for their control links. Link reliability in fpv is more important than in audio considering best case you lose your aircraft. Longer waves do of course travel further though.
Onboard recording and recording in non crowded area for tutorial. Sounds like good conditions for Lee's conclusion of the mics being more reliable when it comes to the specific use case he needs them for..
Best practice for wireless systems is to rescan and adjust frequency at each new location. For Hollywood film sets this is standard with much more expensive wireless systems.
@@FStoppers Come on Lee, you would complain that a mirrorless camera takes a better picture because your high end cinema camera was never blackshadded. The DJI uses a totally different band for transmission that can not be used for a pro audio setup. It has its own issues with the frequency it uses, probably would have issues going through walls. If you are not going to properly setup the equipment, is it fair to trash the product? I think not.
Could be interference for example we have a 3k per mic system with antenna distribution and we still have rf deadspots with led screens on stage and lot of other wireless stuff going on. RF is tempermental some systems automatically change rf accordingly
@@shaunherb I thought that was wireless monitoring for the patent? Think it might be Tascam, not sure. A number of companies now offer backup recording on the transmitter.
It has digital transmission, that means that there is sound or no sound, in digital transmission technology you cant hear static or "bad" reception. It's same like listening to DAB or internet radio. From RF standpoint I would guess that wall has iron rods inside. Also I would try not to have both antennas in parallel, but maybe the left tilted to left to capture changing orientation of transmitter antenna and signals that come from strange bounced crones. I'm no sound guy, but knowing HAM basic helps a lot in understanding and fixing RF problems
@@nathanksimpsonnot to mention the built in Wi-Fi in the camera could potentially interfere with the receiver if it’s sitting on top of the camera and both are sending out RF waves.
Analog audio works differently than digital. The older Sennheiser was analog, the newer model is digital. With digital the signal is either there, or it isn't - which is why the signal just cuts out. That's just the nature of digital. As others have said, best practice is to scan and find clean channels - even 100m move can make all the difference. You can absolutely still clip directly at the lav mic itself before it even hits the transmitter with 32-bit float. Mics are limited by their SPL and can clip, generally most good lav mics have plenty of dynamic range where this wouldn't be an issue but it is still a possibility with louder dynamics.
The patent on internal recording is owned by Zaxcom, so its not really clear if Rode, DJI, Deity etc licensed it or implemented a version that doesn't violate the patent. But it does appear Sennheiser will have transmitter recording in the plug on module at least. Though really they should have just made this receiver a two channel to save space...
The static in your g4 example video sounded like mic issues not the wireless pack. usually happens on the ME-2 mics when not secured properly for movement.
Thank you so much for your video. I shoot horse training and my wife is often behind the horse or 40m (120feet) and I have the older versions of wireless Sennheiser. I experienced exact the same as you. There seems to be no rule why it's failing. Sometimes it worked just fine for a couple of days and then, without changing anything it would fail. It failed far away and it failed on short distance. I purchased then the Rode wireless Go II and that worked fine for two years even with a distance of 70m (210 feet). Then we moved and now it fails even by 20m or 60 feet as soon the transmitter is behind my wife. When she is behind the horse it fails even at close range. But at least I have a clean recording.
I once used 2 sets of Rode Wireless Pro and I didnt know at first that the venue has a high traffic wifi zone. Drove me crazy. First issue before the start of recording, the transmitters were sending signals in different receivers. Second issue, both transmitters started sending signals in right and different receivers (1 tx of set 1 was sending to rx set 1 and the other tx of set 1 sending to a different rx), third issue during the start of event was signals were getting constantly cut. Fourth issue was I turned on 32 bit float recording on all tx but the signals were also getting cut. It was a nightmare. All in the 2.4 g wifi bullcrap
Hey...I love my Sennheiser G4 series and they are reliable-but sometimes RF ruins things...so I'm thinking about a system that would record an internal audio file as backup... I consider theTascam DR-10L pro which is nice but I can't monitor the audio. So I'm considering the DJI Mic 2 (and the Rode Wirelsss pro)-I would record the wireless signal into my FX30 and if there is any RF interferance then I can always go to the internal audio...You seem to say that the wireless signal from the DJI is as good or better than the Sennheisers? Can this be? the new Sennheiser system you are reviewing here is not practical for me...I just want something with a good wireless signal and that can record a good internal audiofile...not sure what to get at all...thanks for the video!
Thank you for sharing your real world experience. I know it’s easy to get caught in the tech specs but nothing beats experience. This answered a big question for me about the Sennheiser and confirms that having a backup recording on the transmitter like the DJI is superior bc no mater what wireless system you use, it seems like they fail at some point. I’m hoping DJI comes out with version 2 soon, similar to what Rode just released with 32-bit and locking cable.
Ok, I'm a serious audio noob (who owns the DJI mics, but they're the first and only mics I've ever used/owned), but I can't hear anything in that audio of Elia that makes it 'unusable'.
@@FStoppers that hiss in the short clip sounds like it could be a mixture of clothing rustle and/or interference. The original Sennheisers may not pass the "key test" when it comes to transient response and if it gets those high transients (like from clothing rustle) it's going to sound like digital noise as the audio gets companded. Clothing rustle, especially for synthetic fabrics can be really noisy. Regardless clothing rustle right next to the mic is going to sound really bad.
@@hiawrj Lol, same. Originally was watching on my MacBook which has pretty great speakers, then threw in AirPods and still couldn't hear anything. Seems a bit extreme to get rid of the whole lesson based on that, but obviously that decision is Lee & Elia's alone.
@@FStoppers I thought it sounded like traffic noise - single car on a long bitumen road sort of thing. Anyway, I hit it with FCP's voice isolation and noise removal and it cleaned up nicely. Listening over AirPods Pro2.
I bought Sennheiser wireless system made specifically for London when I got there no matter how I synced and tuned it the signal was interfered and has static the Sennheiser representative didn’t take any responsibility. I used it twice. Now the $899 pluses tax wireless mic system sitting on the shelf and don’t know what to do with it. By the way love all your gear reviews
Great review guys, my Boya system just gave up so I totally agree, might have to check out the DJI mic. will also check out click a snap, thanks for sharing.
This system from my knowledge uses 2.4ghz correct me if im wrong and phones can even mess with them if ur phone is looking for wifi or a cam spamming a wifi signal that is close to the channel of said transmitter/receiver
But isn't the sennheiser conflicted with the wireless frequency of the flashes? Or is it disturbed by the wi-fi repeaters of some bars or offices in the area?
Our most extensive tests have been with Elia Locardi and his Photographing the World series. He doesn't use flash at all and we are often in super remote parts of the world. Still always had problems. -P
I happily used the old Sennheiser EW100 G3 UHF, now illegal due to the revolution in broadcasting with digital terrestrial television and 3G, 4G, 5G telephony which have occupied the 400-800 Mhz band. The Sennheiser brand is widely used in the world of television broadcasting and cinema. I'm disappointed that the new model you tested doesn't live up to its brand.
Why is the audio quality allegedly better here than the rode or dji system? Can’t you just use the same microphones on all three? Or is the transmission itself of a higher quality?
For context this is how a sound mixer for film production and/or TV thinks about wireless... It's detailed, informed, and thoughtful. You may want to try getting an device like most production sound mixers have that can scan RF and check what's out there. The new Deity Theos system is supposed to have it built in. ua-cam.com/video/6O39iHC38Q4/v-deo.html
I can’t tell from your video how many boats are on the water nearby your shooting location, but particularly if you have commercial fishing, shipping and/or Coast Guard nearby…then you’re going to have channel overlap issues from high power transmitters adjacent to where you’re filming. You absolutely need to rescan when shifting locations under those circumstances. But that’s only a guess. ****However there’s something even more important I need to mention.**** In some modern recorders you may not have to worry about clipping inside the recorder. But you can still overdrive the capsule in your lav. Please stop telling people they don’t have to worry about clipping. It’s not true unless you have very expensive lavs that can handle high sound pressure levels. And I hear a lot of buzzing in your audio which is the result of bad gain staging relative to your mic capsule. Your audio technique is poor. Good audio has never been plug and play, and though it’s somewhat easier now, audio still requires more time and attention than most content creators care to take. Please bone up on your technique and stop blaming vendors for operator error.
Terrible review. I am sorry, but major user error with this. First and foremost, The DJI and Sennheiser use totally different bands for transmission. That is why they work differently. I have not done the research, but the DJI would have major connection issues in certain types of environments with the frequency they are using. Second, the bands Sennheiser uses are shared and every time you move, the offending shared bands envelope also changes. That is why you must rescan every time you move even if it is only 100 feet. It is the equivalent of using a cinema camera and not blackshading it and then complaining the your mirrorless camera has no issue but your high end cinema camera is unable to take a decent picture.
When close to a body of water, RF will be absorbed, rescan to a different channel and hope that the absorption is less. Older analog wireless sounds "fuzzy" when RF interference or loss occurs, with digital systems, it's a "cliff" of a dropout. Nevertheless, if you're a serious professional, don't skimp on the wireless, invest in a Lectrosonics wireless rig. Solid, bulletproof, mine have yet to let me down.
Apologies to the one guy in a hundred thousand that has balanced IEMs mated to a DAC and amp that could perceive that hiss. For the rest of the world, DJI mics are perfectly suitable out of the box.
Sennheiser is going the way of Canon and losing the Audio game. We want 32 bit float everything. Wireless audio, good sound, internal recording in a sleep package. Doesn’t seem that hard IMO
Oh? normal standard batteries? Better than the djo stuff I would say (or any other build in battery). So you can replace it easily on the go. Even get one from the nearest store. The dji stuff has a big nono for me: it has to be activated over the internet. And since it is a chinazi company, Im cautious about them. Got my drone used from ebay, so I dont have to activate and link it to any account : ) Still, the recording is a ice feauture to have I would assume
start from G4, the performance of sennheiser is super bad, most of the time is facing connection problem, first i think is my unit problem, until i ask other audioman, it happen on other unit too.....
This video is quite misleading. It leaves out important aspects of using a UHF system. The Sennheiser system is the more professional and reliable system in this case. UHF is more reliable but requires more attention to the RF surroundings. The sennheiser system allows you to adapt to different RF scenarios whereas most 2.4GHz system just stop working without being able to do anything about it.
@@creativegreatsvisuals In a crowded RF environment you can scan and select the cleanest channel, and even coordinate with other people if you’re at an event with lots of wireless going on. This allows you to proactively avoid issues. With 2.4GHz you have to trust the system to do this for you, but it gets easily overwhelmed since 2.4GHz is extremely busy, and then you have no settings so you can only pray and hope that it starts working again.
First of all it’s not the top of the line best gear out right now. Second of all RF gear IS more reliable if used correctly, in this scenario it wasn’t used correctly.
Yes, probably a patent issue. DJI uses a higher frequency so they probably have more dropouts and require it. Sennheiser uses a totally different band and probably does not require it if you follow their instructions and rescan every time you move.
Sennheiser was bought in 2022, whichever new products they release will never be as good as older generations, they are all about making money now and I doubt they do any worthy products for professionals until they start losing market share. When it comes to new audio products of this type, I am putting my money on Deity and Rode. Thanks for the review by the way. On another note, keep in mind that wireless system can be affected when being used next to large bodies of water, this has happened to me before (sennheiser avx system). I thought it was due to all the yachts with their satellite systems but after some research it can also be due to the water. You need to use a higher frequency RF, perhaps the 1785.2 to 1799.8 MHz model.
I agree but the strange thing is we just filmed a promo video for a massive yacht and the DJI mics worked FLAWLESSLY while on the boat out at sea for 3 days. I wished we had the Sennheiser mics to test during this shoot to see how they compared. -P
@@FStoppers That's interesting, if you ask bard or chatgpt (or the long way, google search). You will find that it is recommended to use 2.5 GHz or higher when next to large bodies of water as those frequencies are large enough to not be affected by the water, and the DJIs operate on that frequency, that is why you didn't have any issues with them. Personally I think it would be good to have the DJI or RODE Go systems along side a pro system like the G4s or the upcoming Deity Theos. This way you can't go wrong on any scenario. Cheers!!!
He doesn't use sennheiser gear right he treats the dji mics like they are professional solutions but dji has alot of limitations . He act like he works with dji
Used the ew-dp on at least 20+ sets so far... Zero issues... I dont know whaf happened there. BUT! Best practices is to rescan. Im paranoid with sound. Everytime we reframe, we rescan. PTSD from old G series systems. Dji mics are okay, but I resold all my sets because of high noise floor with lavs. Good for vlogging, not for paid jobs.
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I've been working with the G2/G3 for about a decade and have had to use up to 20 simultaneously once for a doc shoot
With the G3/G4 you need to do a very specific procedure to get the best results, here is what I recommend:
Turn off all transmitters/receivers so nothing is broadcasting
Turn on only one receiver
Set the squelch to 'Low'
Perform a easy setup > scan new list
This will scan all possible frequencies, but by having the squelch set to 'Low' it will be more prone to interference and therefore show less possible frequencies, which is a good thing, you dont want to select a frequency that is more prone to interference
After the scan I typically navigate a few frequencies away from the first suggested and press 'Set'
Then watch the reception of the receiver closely and look for the connection to change, if the connection does change this means something is in range that is causing interference on that frequency and you need ro select a different frequency from the scan list..select a different frequency from the scan list until you dont see interference
Then set the squelch to 'High'
This will increase the threshold at which point the reciever will connect to frequencies, making it less prone to connect to rogue interference signals
Turn on the transmitter pack for the pair and sync the two using the sync function
Set those two packs aside as they are now paired, do not turn them off as you want them to actively use the frequency
Now turn on the next receiver and repeat the process for every lav pair needed
It is best to do this one pair at a time so they dont inadvertently hog frequencies
When running the sound mixer if possible I will set up the receiver packs so I can view the screen at a glance, this better allows you to troubleshoot issues..so if I hear static I can glace over at the signal, if I see the signal strength dip at all this tells me the pack is getting interference on that frequency and I'll change to a new frequency
Static more often is caused by a bad frequency and not appropriate squelch
I stopped the video when someone said that a 2.4Ghz system is FAR more reliable. No, it is not. And if you hadn't had any problem it just means that you haven't used it enough or your expectations are just too low.
Interesting note, fpv drone pilots have switched entirely from 900mhz to 2.4ghz transmission systems for their control links.
Link reliability in fpv is more important than in audio considering best case you lose your aircraft.
Longer waves do of course travel further though.
You're right
Almost every wireless device out there uses this frequency. Crowded and prone to losing signal.
Onboard recording and recording in non crowded area for tutorial. Sounds like good conditions for Lee's conclusion of the mics being more reliable when it comes to the specific use case he needs them for..
Best practice for wireless systems is to rescan and adjust frequency at each new location. For Hollywood film sets this is standard with much more expensive wireless systems.
The 2 locations were about 100ft away from each other. And why do the cheap mics always work?
True for anything that is wireless really
@@FStoppers Come on Lee, you would complain that a mirrorless camera takes a better picture because your high end cinema camera was never blackshadded. The DJI uses a totally different band for transmission that can not be used for a pro audio setup. It has its own issues with the frequency it uses, probably would have issues going through walls. If you are not going to properly setup the equipment, is it fair to trash the product? I think not.
@@FelixCervantes The DJI mics start having trouble if you're 50' away and have your back turned.
Could be interference for example we have a 3k per mic system with antenna distribution and we still have rf deadspots with led screens on stage and lot of other wireless stuff going on. RF is tempermental some systems automatically change rf accordingly
Internal recording in the transmitter definitely feels like a must have feature these days. 👍
I heard a company has a patent on that feature for years to come. I agree thought, it would be very useful
@@shaunherb I thought that was wireless monitoring for the patent? Think it might be Tascam, not sure. A number of companies now offer backup recording on the transmitter.
@@ScottJWaldron Zaxcom owns the patent, so other brands that have internal recording, within US will record OR transmit, Outside will do both.
It has digital transmission, that means that there is sound or no sound, in digital transmission technology you cant hear static or "bad" reception. It's same like listening to DAB or internet radio.
From RF standpoint I would guess that wall has iron rods inside. Also I would try not to have both antennas in parallel, but maybe the left tilted to left to capture changing orientation of transmitter antenna and signals that come from strange bounced crones. I'm no sound guy, but knowing HAM basic helps a lot in understanding and fixing RF problems
Concrete and rebar blocks a lot of RF. Try getting a WiFi router to work across an apartment built like that.
@@nathanksimpson and that is why the DJI setup would be terrible in that situation.
@@nathanksimpsonnot to mention the built in Wi-Fi in the camera could potentially interfere with the receiver if it’s sitting on top of the camera and both are sending out RF waves.
Analog audio works differently than digital. The older Sennheiser was analog, the newer model is digital. With digital the signal is either there, or it isn't - which is why the signal just cuts out. That's just the nature of digital. As others have said, best practice is to scan and find clean channels - even 100m move can make all the difference.
You can absolutely still clip directly at the lav mic itself before it even hits the transmitter with 32-bit float. Mics are limited by their SPL and can clip, generally most good lav mics have plenty of dynamic range where this wouldn't be an issue but it is still a possibility with louder dynamics.
lav mics like what models?
The patent on internal recording is owned by Zaxcom, so its not really clear if Rode, DJI, Deity etc licensed it or implemented a version that doesn't violate the patent. But it does appear Sennheiser will have transmitter recording in the plug on module at least. Though really they should have just made this receiver a two channel to save space...
The static in your g4 example video sounded like mic issues not the wireless pack. usually happens on the ME-2 mics when not secured properly for movement.
Thank you so much for your video. I shoot horse training and my wife is often behind the horse or 40m (120feet) and I have the older versions of wireless Sennheiser. I experienced exact the same as you. There seems to be no rule why it's failing. Sometimes it worked just fine for a couple of days and then, without changing anything it would fail. It failed far away and it failed on short distance. I purchased then the Rode wireless Go II and that worked fine for two years even with a distance of 70m (210 feet). Then we moved and now it fails even by 20m or 60 feet as soon the transmitter is behind my wife. When she is behind the horse it fails even at close range. But at least I have a clean recording.
I once used 2 sets of Rode Wireless Pro and I didnt know at first that the venue has a high traffic wifi zone. Drove me crazy. First issue before the start of recording, the transmitters were sending signals in different receivers. Second issue, both transmitters started sending signals in right and different receivers (1 tx of set 1 was sending to rx set 1 and the other tx of set 1 sending to a different rx), third issue during the start of event was signals were getting constantly cut. Fourth issue was I turned on 32 bit float recording on all tx but the signals were also getting cut. It was a nightmare. All in the 2.4 g wifi bullcrap
Always great with real world tests, it's lacking with a lot of youtube reviewers.
Hey...I love my Sennheiser G4 series and they are reliable-but sometimes RF ruins things...so I'm thinking about a system that would record an internal audio file as backup...
I consider theTascam DR-10L pro which is nice but I can't monitor the audio. So I'm considering the DJI Mic 2 (and the Rode Wirelsss pro)-I would record the wireless signal into my FX30 and if there is any RF interferance then I can always go to the internal audio...You seem to say that the wireless signal from the DJI is as good or better than the Sennheisers? Can this be? the new Sennheiser system you are reviewing here is not practical for me...I just want something with a good wireless signal and that can record a good internal audiofile...not sure what to get at all...thanks for the video!
Thank you for sharing your real world experience. I know it’s easy to get caught in the tech specs but nothing beats experience. This answered a big question for me about the Sennheiser and confirms that having a backup recording on the transmitter like the DJI is superior bc no mater what wireless system you use, it seems like they fail at some point. I’m hoping DJI comes out with version 2 soon, similar to what Rode just released with 32-bit and locking cable.
yeah when you were trying to resync at the problematic location did you get the trans and rec right next to eachother or doing it from a distance?
Ok, I'm a serious audio noob (who owns the DJI mics, but they're the first and only mics I've ever used/owned), but I can't hear anything in that audio of Elia that makes it 'unusable'.
There is a high pitched hiss. you may need headphones to hear it.
@@FStoppers that hiss in the short clip sounds like it could be a mixture of clothing rustle and/or interference. The original Sennheisers may not pass the "key test" when it comes to transient response and if it gets those high transients (like from clothing rustle) it's going to sound like digital noise as the audio gets companded. Clothing rustle, especially for synthetic fabrics can be really noisy. Regardless clothing rustle right next to the mic is going to sound really bad.
@@FStoppers I don't hear anything with headphones even. Tried to find it 3 times. 😅
@@hiawrj Lol, same. Originally was watching on my MacBook which has pretty great speakers, then threw in AirPods and still couldn't hear anything. Seems a bit extreme to get rid of the whole lesson based on that, but obviously that decision is Lee & Elia's alone.
@@FStoppers I thought it sounded like traffic noise - single car on a long bitumen road sort of thing. Anyway, I hit it with FCP's voice isolation and noise removal and it cleaned up nicely. Listening over AirPods Pro2.
Never had a problem with my Sony systems. UTX-BO3 currently.They push a digital signal over an analog frequency.
I bought Sennheiser wireless system made specifically for London when I got there no matter how I synced and tuned it the signal was interfered and has static the Sennheiser representative didn’t take any responsibility. I used it twice. Now the $899 pluses tax wireless mic system sitting on the shelf and don’t know what to do with it. By the way love all your gear reviews
Great review guys, my Boya system just gave up so I totally agree, might have to check out the DJI mic. will also check out click a snap, thanks for sharing.
This system from my knowledge uses 2.4ghz correct me if im wrong and phones can even mess with them if ur phone is looking for wifi or a cam spamming a wifi signal that is close to the channel of said transmitter/receiver
But isn't the sennheiser conflicted with the wireless frequency of the flashes? Or is it disturbed by the wi-fi repeaters of some bars or offices in the area?
Our most extensive tests have been with Elia Locardi and his Photographing the World series. He doesn't use flash at all and we are often in super remote parts of the world. Still always had problems. -P
I happily used the old Sennheiser EW100 G3 UHF, now illegal due to the revolution in broadcasting with digital terrestrial television and 3G, 4G, 5G telephony which have occupied the 400-800 Mhz band. The Sennheiser brand is widely used in the world of television broadcasting and cinema. I'm disappointed that the new model you tested doesn't live up to its brand.
@@clabart don't blame Sennheiser. Lee admits he did not rescan when they moved. You cannot blame the equipment for user error.
Perhaps check out the Deity Theos system. It has 32-bit internal recording and timecode sync.
Why is the audio quality allegedly better here than the rode or dji system? Can’t you just use the same microphones on all three? Or is the transmission itself of a higher quality?
wait a minute, what new Profoto lights you're testing??
It may be a patent hindrance that causes the lack of internal 32bit recording in wireless transmitters.
This makes no sense. Others like Rode do it, and also Sennheiser has a specific device that transmit and record.
Did you update the firmware???
Would be nice if you tried the new Deity Theos system (internal 32 bit float for backup).
Why don't you use the avx system from Sennheiser ?
Because its bad.
For context this is how a sound mixer for film production and/or TV thinks about wireless... It's detailed, informed, and thoughtful. You may want to try getting an device like most production sound mixers have that can scan RF and check what's out there. The new Deity Theos system is supposed to have it built in.
ua-cam.com/video/6O39iHC38Q4/v-deo.html
I can’t tell from your video how many boats are on the water nearby your shooting location, but particularly if you have commercial fishing, shipping and/or Coast Guard nearby…then you’re going to have channel overlap issues from high power transmitters adjacent to where you’re filming. You absolutely need to rescan when shifting locations under those circumstances. But that’s only a guess. ****However there’s something even more important I need to mention.**** In some modern recorders you may not have to worry about clipping inside the recorder. But you can still overdrive the capsule in your lav. Please stop telling people they don’t have to worry about clipping. It’s not true unless you have very expensive lavs that can handle high sound pressure levels. And I hear a lot of buzzing in your audio which is the result of bad gain staging relative to your mic capsule. Your audio technique is poor. Good audio has never been plug and play, and though it’s somewhat easier now, audio still requires more time and attention than most content creators care to take. Please bone up on your technique and stop blaming vendors for operator error.
He did mention something about overdriving the microphone at some point in the video.
Terrible review. I am sorry, but major user error with this. First and foremost, The DJI and Sennheiser use totally different bands for transmission. That is why they work differently. I have not done the research, but the DJI would have major connection issues in certain types of environments with the frequency they are using. Second, the bands Sennheiser uses are shared and every time you move, the offending shared bands envelope also changes. That is why you must rescan every time you move even if it is only 100 feet. It is the equivalent of using a cinema camera and not blackshading it and then complaining the your mirrorless camera has no issue but your high end cinema camera is unable to take a decent picture.
When close to a body of water, RF will be absorbed, rescan to a different channel and hope that the absorption is less. Older analog wireless sounds "fuzzy" when RF interference or loss occurs, with digital systems, it's a "cliff" of a dropout. Nevertheless, if you're a serious professional, don't skimp on the wireless, invest in a Lectrosonics wireless rig. Solid, bulletproof, mine have yet to let me down.
This right here...
Will not make a difference. Lee doesn’t follow the manufacturer’s recommendations so he will not use it properly.
RF is a battle we have 3k per mic systems a nd we still have drop zones with rf distros
I thought UHF mics are always reliable than the 2.4GHz mics. Now it's all water under bridge.
thanks, this is trash, i was about to buy it, but instead went with FulAim x5 its like the clone version of the dji mics but for like 120 bucks!
Apologies to the one guy in a hundred thousand that has balanced IEMs mated to a DAC and amp that could perceive that hiss. For the rest of the world, DJI mics are perfectly suitable out of the box.
Sennheiser is going the way of Canon and losing the Audio game. We want 32 bit float everything. Wireless audio, good sound, internal recording in a sleep package. Doesn’t seem that hard IMO
This guy probably havent filmed in a high traffic 2.4 room.
review the new deity theos!
Oh? normal standard batteries?
Better than the djo stuff I would say (or any other build in battery). So you can replace it easily on the go.
Even get one from the nearest store.
The dji stuff has a big nono for me: it has to be activated over the internet. And since it is a chinazi company, Im cautious about them. Got my drone used from ebay, so I dont have to activate and link it to any account : )
Still, the recording is a ice feauture to have I would assume
start from G4, the performance of sennheiser is super bad, most of the time is facing connection problem, first i think is my unit problem, until i ask other audioman, it happen on other unit too.....
This video is quite misleading. It leaves out important aspects of using a UHF system. The Sennheiser system is the more professional and reliable system in this case. UHF is more reliable but requires more attention to the RF surroundings. The sennheiser system allows you to adapt to different RF scenarios whereas most 2.4GHz system just stop working without being able to do anything about it.
what do you mean by adapt to different rf scenarios and please explain how the ew dp does this ? thanks
@@creativegreatsvisuals In a crowded RF environment you can scan and select the cleanest channel, and even coordinate with other people if you’re at an event with lots of wireless going on. This allows you to proactively avoid issues.
With 2.4GHz you have to trust the system to do this for you, but it gets easily overwhelmed since 2.4GHz is extremely busy, and then you have no settings so you can only pray and hope that it starts working again.
what du u mean by no settings ? and what does rf mean? @@wilhelm_jonsson
what do u think of this sennheiser system ?
First of all it’s not the top of the line best gear out right now. Second of all RF gear IS more reliable if used correctly, in this scenario it wasn’t used correctly.
What did they do wrong?
For real bro?
Mailada is the best micrphone,can you help us do a review,thanks
It's 2023, I don't understand why Sennheiser don't record to a sd card as well as send the microphone signal wirelessly.
Agreed. Or even internal flash as double backup.
US Patents make that illegal.
Yes, probably a patent issue. DJI uses a higher frequency so they probably have more dropouts and require it. Sennheiser uses a totally different band and probably does not require it if you follow their instructions and rescan every time you move.
WHY refer to your subject as "talent?" As of right now, am looking at Hollyland Lark mk2/DJI mike 2 for portable A/V connex shots
Sennheiser was bought in 2022, whichever new products they release will never be as good as older generations, they are all about making money now and I doubt they do any worthy products for professionals until they start losing market share. When it comes to new audio products of this type, I am putting my money on Deity and Rode. Thanks for the review by the way.
On another note, keep in mind that wireless system can be affected when being used next to large bodies of water, this has happened to me before (sennheiser avx system). I thought it was due to all the yachts with their satellite systems but after some research it can also be due to the water. You need to use a higher frequency RF, perhaps the 1785.2 to 1799.8 MHz model.
I agree but the strange thing is we just filmed a promo video for a massive yacht and the DJI mics worked FLAWLESSLY while on the boat out at sea for 3 days. I wished we had the Sennheiser mics to test during this shoot to see how they compared. -P
@@FStoppers That's interesting, if you ask bard or chatgpt (or the long way, google search). You will find that it is recommended to use 2.5 GHz or higher when next to large bodies of water as those frequencies are large enough to not be affected by the water, and the DJIs operate on that frequency, that is why you didn't have any issues with them.
Personally I think it would be good to have the DJI or RODE Go systems along side a pro system like the G4s or the upcoming Deity Theos. This way you can't go wrong on any scenario.
Cheers!!!
I watched all YT reviews of Sennheiser EW-DP. This is the best review. Thank you!
He doesn't use sennheiser gear right he treats the dji mics like they are professional solutions but dji has alot of limitations . He act like he works with dji
you guys still in PR?
Yep, going on year 4 now! -P
@@FStoppers we were down there in February, be back down next Jan. Would love to buy you guys a beer sometime!
Used the ew-dp on at least 20+ sets so far... Zero issues... I dont know whaf happened there.
BUT! Best practices is to rescan. Im paranoid with sound. Everytime we reframe, we rescan. PTSD from old G series systems.
Dji mics are okay, but I resold all my sets because of high noise floor with lavs. Good for vlogging, not for paid jobs.