I'm a little angry that I didn't find your channel earlier . Thank you for your videos . You and sailing Uma are my favorites because I took much interest in the restoration :) God bless you guys
Love your channel guys. we're you're age - bought a Prout snowgoose 37 Elite 2 months back during UK lockdown. 50K GBP and she's in super condition. Sometimes you just have to get lucky and be in the right place in the right time. Great advice from this video and we love all the things you guys are doing. Next job for us is a toilet re fit - already had some tips from your video on that one :) See you out there !!
Guys you should turn off that music, just natural sound like like face to face chat, specialy when we are not english native speaker, but great info nice job. Subscribed and curious about every detail on refit
Hi guys,Good points, but I think the real skill is finding sleeper cats that nobody knows about and can be bought in good condition cheap or knowing about boats that have specific known issues that keeps the price low but can be fixed by knowledgeable people. Searching for a cheap boats is standard practice. Finding something that does not need a major refit is the best trick. Usually involves patience,persistent and looking at a lot of boats but resisting buying the first boat that looks like it might work. Meanwhile make sure you have a small sailing dinghy so you can sail and/or race to keep you sailing interest up. Cheers Warren Ps I’d like to hear more about SA built cats from somebody who lives there. I worked for Bongers marine for 6 months in 1979 so have a soft spot for SA builders. But am way out of date now.
Lekker Man. Just found your channel. Our small but sturdy Catalac 8M will soon be on the market. We are in Florida. She got brand new sails and 400 Watts of Solar Panels.
We just found your channel after finding our own Cat the same ways! Since then we've watched your projects and will be doing a lot of the same things, hopefully we cross paths in the future :)
@@livingwiththemaias We will be posting our progress too once we are ready, feel free to follow along! I'm sure we will definitely be using many of your tips lol
Alexander de Wet Aluminium hulls are less maintenance if they are built from the correct grade aluminium. Both have pros and cons but generally aluminium hulls are much more expensive than glass hulls thus making them less popular 😊
Excellent advice, obviously based on solid experience. Seriously considering a Trimaran though. Much harder to find at any price..... Didn't know about Dean Cats...... Thank you.
Started watching your vlog from the start and find it lekker. It all depends if you want to renovate most of the yacht/cat then it makes sense what you are saying. It is a total different ball game if you do have the money to buy a 2000 and up yacht. Then I would recommend making use of an evaluator.
Sorry, I'm joining 7 months late here, but I'm interested to hear your thoughts on bridgedeck clearance (quite low on yours) and closed foredeck area (like yours has). Do these two factors raise any concerns for you in terms of blue water sailing? Cheers, Mark
Hi Mark , Welcome! there are a number of factors that do make me think twice about what yacht would be the correct one . Reputation , these dean 365 have been around for many years and have done many circumnavigations and they are in all places around the world at the moment , with that said they are reliable strong cats . they deo slam with the low dridgedeck but so do many cats even a 57 ft FP . Budget , for our budget this is probably one of the best cats out there that can get blue water sailing done. Hope this helps and you enjoy the loads of work that we had to do on this old lady ! Kind Regards Ricky and Simone
Sweet. I only ask because it's something I'd like to do and I have sleepless nights worrying about whether no trampoline and low bridgedeck are a compromise too far and maybe I should just go mono! Thing is, I love cats! (And catamaran 😉) They simply put monos in the shade for accommodation and, if sailed sensibly, will go anywhere a mono will. I read an article once which debunked the safety issue. It said thay everyone always cites the (relatively) frequent news footage of an upside down cat in the middle of the ocean. What those people don't mention, the article said, was that if it was a mono there'd be no footage at all, because it would be at the bottom of the ocean!
Ok, tonight found your channel and was binge watching. I suggested you change your intro music and I found you did. lol Disregard my earlier suggestion. Like the new intro music!
You should check out Sail Life. Mads has done it all at least twice. Masses of info on his site. Also reach out to Miss Lone Star Aubrey is in S.A. now
a resource i didnt hear you mention is owners groups. almost every brand of boat out there has an owners group. these people are intimately familiar with the actual boat you are working on and my experience has been they will jump at a chance to 'show off' their knowledge
Geminis make crossings all the time. I know of two in the South Pacific that are constantly making long crossings in heavy seas. The reason they are so inexpensive is because they are spartan inside and the rigging is a little too small and simple for the design, that said, they are stout and can take heavy conditions easy. .
We have a hot shower and South African red wine waiting for you when you make it to Florida. Haha, I could have sworn that wind sounds like P.E. I went to school and university there!
hi guys, just found your channel yesterday and put it on the watchlist. Actually, I'm in pretty much the same situation as you two, even bought the identical Dean 365 (for less, but in better interior shape, although Thelxinoe's exterior looks quite crappy at the moment >:-). Intend to move my remaining stuff and myself to South Africa in July, do the final works on board and set sail in november, so chances are not too bad, that we'll meet somewhere in the not too far future, I guess. Watch out for www.thelxinoe.de, I'll keep an eye open on your channel :-)
how many times have you done this type of refit before? i'm currently 4 years into building a prout elite 37 from bare hull and deck,i might be able to give you some money saving tips ,built my first yacht in durban. photos and commentary on the present build here cheers alex www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/modernizing-a-prout-elite-37ft-103739.html
alex bond This is our first yacht rebuild. Ricardo has worked with composites etc before on sasols solar car but no yachts 😂 We will definitely check it out. Thank you for watching!
thanks for the reply,liked and subscribed,i shall follow on facebook with interest. i gave you guys a mention on cruisers forum last night,and i see this morning there were over 1000 views of my thread,so with a bit of luck you should get a few more subscribers i do reccommend you becoming members on cruisersforum as it is a valuable information resource for builders and cruisers alike.there are many of us with similar projects who post regularly,plus it will boost your channel in a big way internationally if you post links to your videos. latest comments www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/modernizing-a-prout-elite-37ft-103739-66.html my comment on the rebuild "i hope they realise that all the box section furniture that was laminated to the hull,or sections filled with foam were designed to give the hulls longditudinal stiffness to stop the hulls flexing. the average hull thickness is only about 8- 10~mm so they will have to pay considerable attention to detail to replace the structural integerity on the rebuild, vertically and longditudinally with new bulkheads , stringers and floors laminated to the hull ,otherwise there will be a risk of the hulls breaking up in any big wave action. hopefully he is planning on the modular interiour in nidacor(or PU foam)" fasbyt,it's lekker by die see, alles van die beste,alex
you now have your own thread on cruisers forum,which should increase your views and subscribers. www.cruisersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2567841#post2567841
Such a beautiful and inspiring video with a wealth of information!
I'm a little angry that I didn't find your channel earlier . Thank you for your videos . You and sailing Uma are my favorites because I took much interest in the restoration :) God bless you guys
Thanks Alex! 🙂
Love your channel guys. we're you're age - bought a Prout snowgoose 37 Elite 2 months back during UK lockdown. 50K GBP and she's in super condition. Sometimes you just have to get lucky and be in the right place in the right time. Great advice from this video and we love all the things you guys are doing. Next job for us is a toilet re fit - already had some tips from your video on that one :) See you out there !!
Thanks guys! And good luck. ☺
Guys you should turn off that music, just natural sound like like face to face chat, specialy when we are not english native speaker, but great info nice job. Subscribed and curious about every detail on refit
Thank you for watching 😊
Hi guys,Good points, but I think the real skill is finding sleeper cats that nobody knows about and can be bought in good condition cheap or knowing about boats that have specific known issues that keeps the price low but can be fixed by knowledgeable people. Searching for a cheap boats is standard practice. Finding something that does not need a major refit is the best trick. Usually involves patience,persistent and looking at a lot of boats but resisting buying the first boat that looks like it might work. Meanwhile make sure you have a small sailing dinghy so you can sail and/or race to keep you sailing interest up. Cheers Warren
Ps I’d like to hear more about SA built cats from somebody who lives there. I worked for Bongers marine for 6 months in 1979 so have a soft spot for SA builders. But am way out of date now.
My favorite is Royal Cape Catamarans - Majestic 30
Lekker Man. Just found your channel. Our small but sturdy Catalac 8M will soon be on the market. We are in Florida. She got brand new sails and 400 Watts of Solar Panels.
why do you want to sell? very nice!
I like your videos and your spirit. Will be joining you on the water in about two years time. Enjoy the hard work now, it will pay off in the end.
Maritz Van Zyl Thank you! Let us know when you're on the water! Thanks for watching! & happy new year! 🎉
We just found your channel after finding our own Cat the same ways! Since then we've watched your projects and will be doing a lot of the same things, hopefully we cross paths in the future :)
Thanks for watching! Good luck with it! It's a ton of work but definitely worth it! :)
@@livingwiththemaias We will be posting our progress too once we are ready, feel free to follow along! I'm sure we will definitely be using many of your tips lol
Whats higher maintenance between aluminum hulls vs Fibre glass hulls?
Alexander de Wet Aluminium hulls are less maintenance if they are built from the correct grade aluminium. Both have pros and cons but generally aluminium hulls are much more expensive than glass hulls thus making them less popular 😊
Excellent advice, obviously based on solid experience. Seriously considering a Trimaran though. Much harder to find at any price..... Didn't know about Dean Cats...... Thank you.
It's only a pleasure. 😀 Yeah we have only seen a trimaran once. They are a rare find. 😯
Started watching your vlog from the start and find it lekker. It all depends if you want to renovate most of the yacht/cat then it makes sense what you are saying. It is a total different ball game if you do have the money to buy a 2000 and up yacht. Then I would recommend making use of an evaluator.
You'll also pay alot more for a 2000 and up yacht. Thanks for watching! Appreciate it 😊
At what price did you buy your Dean again?? 30k?
$19,000
Sorry, I'm joining 7 months late here, but I'm interested to hear your thoughts on bridgedeck clearance (quite low on yours) and closed foredeck area (like yours has). Do these two factors raise any concerns for you in terms of blue water sailing? Cheers, Mark
Hi Mark , Welcome! there are a number of factors that do make me think twice about what yacht would be the correct one . Reputation , these dean 365 have been around for many years and have done many circumnavigations and they are in all places around the world at the moment , with that said they are reliable strong cats . they deo slam with the low dridgedeck but so do many cats even a 57 ft FP . Budget , for our budget this is probably one of the best cats out there that can get blue water sailing done.
Hope this helps and you enjoy the loads of work that we had to do on this old lady ! Kind Regards Ricky and Simone
Sweet. I only ask because it's something I'd like to do and I have sleepless nights worrying about whether no trampoline and low bridgedeck are a compromise too far and maybe I should just go mono! Thing is, I love cats! (And catamaran 😉) They simply put monos in the shade for accommodation and, if sailed sensibly, will go anywhere a mono will. I read an article once which debunked the safety issue. It said thay everyone always cites the (relatively) frequent news footage of an upside down cat in the middle of the ocean. What those people don't mention, the article said, was that if it was a mono there'd be no footage at all, because it would be at the bottom of the ocean!
there are pros and cons to both , its what you prefer better .
Ok, tonight found your channel and was binge watching. I suggested you change your intro music and I found you did. lol Disregard my earlier suggestion. Like the new intro music!
Thanks for watching Chuck! :)
You should check out Sail Life. Mads has done it all at least twice. Masses of info on his site. Also reach out to Miss Lone Star Aubrey is in S.A. now
Thanks for recommending his site Mark, definitely gave us tons of ideas. :)
a resource i didnt hear you mention is owners groups. almost every brand of boat out there has an owners group. these people are intimately familiar with the actual boat you are working on and my experience has been they will jump at a chance to 'show off' their knowledge
charles curtius Good point, the reason we don't have an owners group for the Dean catamarans 365. But it's a great point for other yachts 😊
Cool video. We were also looking at catamarans, but (spoiler) ended up with a monohull. About to start our adventure w/our kids. Subscribed
hey guys thanks so much for the sub! hope to see you on the water !
Gemini cats are not well built but are great for sailing lakes and flat water
Geminis make crossings all the time. I know of two in the South Pacific that are constantly making long crossings in heavy seas. The reason they are so inexpensive is because they are spartan inside and the rigging is a little too small and simple for the design, that said, they are stout and can take heavy conditions easy. .
When Timothy goes to school
Is 30000 in American currency or South African
USD
We have a hot shower and South African red wine waiting for you when you make it to Florida. Haha, I could have sworn that wind sounds like P.E. I went to school and university there!
Snake Plisken Looking forward to it haha. This blady PE wind hey! Thanks for watching!! 😊
Happy New Year !
David Sutton Happy new year! 🎉
My new favorite channel on UA-cam . Waneer ek weer in PE is gaan ek kom inloer en jou n bier bring.
mynhardt saayman Thanks for watching and the support. You're more than welcome too. 😊
Great video. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks for watching Johnn! :)
hi guys, just found your channel yesterday and put it on the watchlist. Actually, I'm in pretty much the same situation as you two, even bought the identical Dean 365 (for less, but in better interior shape, although Thelxinoe's exterior looks quite crappy at the moment >:-).
Intend to move my remaining stuff and myself to South Africa in July, do the final works on board and set sail in november, so chances are not too bad, that we'll meet somewhere in the not too far future, I guess. Watch out for www.thelxinoe.de, I'll keep an eye open on your channel :-)
That is awesome! Glad to hear that! Will definitely keep and ear and eye out for you! Thanks for watching!
Parabéns linda modelo e amigo linda gatinha você é uma linda princesa
how many times have you done this type of refit before? i'm currently 4 years into building a prout elite 37 from bare hull and deck,i might be able to give you some money saving tips ,built my first yacht in durban. photos and commentary on the present build here cheers alex www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/modernizing-a-prout-elite-37ft-103739.html
alex bond This is our first yacht rebuild. Ricardo has worked with composites etc before on sasols solar car but no yachts 😂 We will definitely check it out. Thank you for watching!
thanks for the reply,liked and subscribed,i shall follow on facebook with interest.
i gave you guys a mention on cruisers forum last night,and i see this morning there were over 1000 views of my thread,so with a bit of luck you should get a few more subscribers
i do reccommend you becoming members on cruisersforum as it is a valuable information resource for builders and cruisers alike.there are many of us with similar projects who post regularly,plus it will boost your channel in a big way internationally if you post links to your videos.
latest comments
www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/modernizing-a-prout-elite-37ft-103739-66.html
my comment on the rebuild
"i hope they realise that all the box section furniture that was laminated to the hull,or sections filled with foam were designed to give the hulls longditudinal stiffness to stop the hulls flexing.
the average hull thickness is only about 8- 10~mm so they will have to pay considerable attention to detail to replace the structural integerity on the rebuild, vertically and longditudinally with new bulkheads , stringers and floors laminated to the hull ,otherwise there will be a risk of the hulls breaking up in any big wave action.
hopefully he is planning on the modular interiour in nidacor(or PU foam)"
fasbyt,it's lekker by die see, alles van die beste,alex
you now have your own thread on cruisers forum,which should increase your views and subscribers.
www.cruisersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2567841#post2567841
Great video!
Subscribers +1.
Thanks for watching! :)
Go the MIGHTY ALL BLACKS
What about the Springboks? ;)
Linda modelo nunca vou esquecer você gatinha e amigo fica com deus gosti
A few years when do you plan on having children? You're from South Africa? I consider selling that boat you have out of there ASAP